The LOVE Chapters Podcast w/ Special Guest, Elder Jean Bonds | "The Majesty of God" part 3 | Psalm 145:5
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True step to the spot. Youbrown man. Why let me tell you
why? Will stop? God andgone to talk about? Will stop God?
And me? Will list stop?God? In me? God,
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you don't know what I'm talking about. Let me tell you. Will listop
God and check this out, God, God, let me break it down
to your God, Jesus, holdthe stop, because Jordan, we're here.
We're here, we are bad,we are us, we are we
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are them, we are them,we are we God chosen. She is
she, Yes, you're you.I'm me. These days, at times,
we have to really be really uhclear about our pronoun oh yes,
yes, yes, yes, yeahyeah. And we have to be very
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clear about who we serve God,right hold on? Who are we?
We are mister and missus. I'mmissus Devil Slayers and I'm mister devil.
Are we all the love chapters?And we are in the studio on the
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out to Jerry Royce, Shout outto all of our colleagues that are laboring
for the Lord on air and offare y'all, I mean, we're we're
grateful to have this platform to beable to preach and teach and exhort,
but there are other platforms that Godcalls us to. So we we tap
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our hats off to all the leadersin the Body of Christ who are laboring.
Please remember to just lift each otherup. You know, the Word
says pray one for another. Andyou know, you never know what what
your brother and sisters are going through. You never know a lot of times
what leaders go through. You know, your your spiritual leaders, your pastors,
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those that are called to the ecclesia. So don't forget your leaders to
pray for them, pray their strengthin the Lord, and pray one for
another. Pray for your brothers andsisters as well. Amen. Amen,
Amen, Amen? That what what? What is the ecclesia. Ecclesia is
the fivefold? Well, excuse me, it's not fivefold anymore, as we
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were corrected. It's the fourfold.Pastor teacher is one ministry gift. Pastor
teacher, then we have the prophet, we have the apostle, and that's
it. Yeah, what she said, we learned, Oh this was another
teaching, but we had learned thatthe pastor and the teacher our are one
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of our highly I guess we highlylook up to a spiritual leader. He
taught on this that you have torightly divide the word of God. And
so in reading that, all ofus, even myself, always thought that
it was a five foald, Butif you read it correctly, it's the
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pastor teacher. Teaching gift goes withthe pastoral so its pastor teacher is one
gift in itself, because you actuallyneed the teaching gift in order to pastor.
Amen speaking of pastors and apostles andprophets and so forth. Yes,
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yes, yes, yes yes.If you've been following us God, we've
been talking about the great the attributesof God, his greatness, his mercy,
his power, his majesty, andwe've been actually bringing on people who
can testify. So if you joinedus last week, we had on Elder
Gene, and we have her backand we are going to continue on with
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the conversation because we were just gettingstarted, y'all. We were just getting
started. We were coming from somesongs forty forty five and five. She
was talking about the wonders and shewas good, she was going in.
So without further ado, we haveher back in the house. Welcome back,
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Elder Jean to the love chap here'sthe chip. Thank you for praying
for me, Woman of God.Oh, thank you, thank you,
thank you for having me back.Yes, yes, all right man,
Amen, welcome back, shout out. I thank you for your prayer and
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just always being ready willing to table. Amen, especially since you're doing a
lot of things too. Yes,yes, you know, God equips us,
you know for the long haul.Yes, that's amen. So let's
just jump right into it because weleft off Elder Gene. For those that
don't know anything about Elder Gene,briefly, is an ordained licensed minister,
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and she flows an apostolic and propheticand she's serial entrepreneur, I want to
say, motile entrepreneur. She hasa lot of businesses. She serves on
in many capacities in women's ministry.So we're gonna put her link in the
in the show notes so you guyscan check out all that she does.
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But at the core, in theheart of who she is, I would
say she's a worshiper at heart,Amen, we stopped, we stopped at
worship. We were we were goingsomewhere, and we stopped at worship.
So let's pick back up where weleft off Yes, it was yes,
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no, great, I believe thathe was talking about worships. We left
off at yes, yes, yes, your journey and how you became the
worshiper that you are today and thechallenges that you had and even within your
your home and amen. So let'sten, that's what does worship mean to you?
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Mm hm oh And there's something letme sum it up, yes,
yes, and then in God's presenceand just just just give it all to
him, just thinking him, justthinking of him and his Mighty One does
the things and wonderful things he didfor me because I always personalize it for
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myself. M m okay, rightman, Amen, amen, and it's
just lifted him up for who heis, what he's done. Okay.
So me right, I've never beena how can I say this, I've
never been a lover of music.Right. In fact, Uh, before
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I got saved, I thought thatyou know, uh, gospel music and
so forth and so on was uhuh God for prophet. So I always
thought it was a scam in therein Christian community, right yeah, And
so uh, being saved, Ilearned a lot about just how much uh,
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the the gospel of singing the gospelor gospel music can actually put you
in a good place, uh uh, a good mood with to receive from
God, to receive holy spirit fromGod. Ad well, well we we
have holy spirit in us. Butyou know you could receive uh, revelation
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worship and so forth and so on. So to me, worship was always
about dance and praise and so forthwith so on. Does it mean that
the same thing to you or isit a little different? That means the
same to me. Like I saidbefore, I was using to worship.
It just that the atmosphere to clearout some things for me, to keep
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my mind straight, to keep meclear and keep me focused. So to
me, it was a release ofthe things I was going through. So
I would put the music on andthat will helped me released and deal with
the things, the issues that Iwas dealing with within myself. There's some
things I couldn't voice to anybody else, but the music were ministered to me.
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Okay, yes, you know itwas like you know, some people
may run to other things for coverthat worship. For me, that was
it and I was just dance inmy living room just to release it.
And that's how I got close tobeing a worshiper, and then I never
know what a worshiping was it withthe title of worshiper wise and what that
even meant, you know, Buttalking to people that's what I did,
and they was like, well,that's that's natural. That's what it is.
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You're a worshiper, yes, youknow. And I just didn't naturally
in my home before I even startedminister and dance in the public. Okay,
okay, and I got some ofmy breakthroughs. I remember when I
used to first start listening to worshipmusic. It touched me so much because
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I didn't realize that a lot ofworship music has the words straight that's in
the Bible in the music. SoI started piecing together the words from the
Bible with the music and then hearingthe songs and the melodies and so forth
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and so on. So I rememberI used to when I was getting ready
for work and I used to justplay the music because it hit. It
was a vibe to me, it'shidden, and it was like, yeah,
that's how I'm that that that that'sthat's what I sense about God.
Everything that was it. So itwas like I just became like a student
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of the words, the lyrics,the lyrics, if you may. And
that's how I fell in love withpraising worship music, and and and because
it's it's it's a it's if youhave an attitude, I will say listening
to worship music is a two killer. It'll kill your too, It'll kill
your mood and put you in aplace of humbleness and humilitant. Yes,
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am I right about that? Yees? Correct, Well, it definitely does
humble you. I will say that. And I do believe that we're all
called I know certain people are like, well, we're all called to worship,
and worship is a lifestyle, andit's actually a posture of the heart.
It's not just singing, you know, it's not just dancing. Those
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are all expressions, and some ofus expressed our worships diffinitely math mistations of
worshiping differently. But we all arecalled to worship, which is a laying
down, a self sacrificial it's actuallya daily self sacrificial decision. Yes it
is wow wow, Yes, yes, ideally lifestyle. They're basically to a
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teaching idea one time on the threews of Worships, which I'm supposed to
be writing that as a book,but I stopped. But the three w's
of worship. You know, youget to recognize who are you worshiping?
Why are you even worshiping? Yes? Yes, yes, yes, yes,
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why are we worshiping? And youknow, and I love that we're
doing. As I was studying thisMajesty. You know, we need probably
as believers noing. Like you said, who are we worshiping? And why
are we worshiping? Well, Majestyexplains it all. You know, we
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hear the term worship him in worshiphis majesties. There's songs about worship his
Majesty, and sometimes we sing someof these songs and we're like, what
does you know? We really don'treally know. We don't really know what
it means. We're just singing along. So in this study and this study
I learned, I've been learning somuch about the word majesty and it's used.
You know, you look at Psalms, which David is the author of
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Psalms, and he was I wouldsay he was the ultimate worshiper. But
this word was used multiple times inPsalms and throughout scripture in general. But
one of the I wanted to justgo back and just define majesty because the
word majesty is something that can beseen and it could be it could be
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seen, it could be felt,right like an act, you know,
it's a response as well, likein worship like I'm in awe, oh
my gosh, you know, andand I want to just give a little
bit more description on that for thosethat may not have joined the teaching in
the first episode. But majesty indicates, it indicates the greatness of God in
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sight or sound, like I said, but it's not just sight and sound.
It's much more than that. Alot of times you hear majesty with
royal it also refers to royal authority. You know, when you see a
king and a queen your majesty,you're acknowledging the royal authority right when they
enter into the room. You're acknowledged. So it's the same with the with
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the presence of God worshiping, it'smore like that reverence and sometimes for me
reverence when you're reverencing that, you'rereverencing his majesty because the power I can
witness God's majesty in certain congregations becauseit's like one of those things where you're
in awe and you just can't movebecause you're you're like, I don't know
if you have you experienced that before, I know you have, elder.
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Yes, yes, yes, amen, so yes. So majesty is not
only seen regarding what God creates,because his majesty reflects the beauty got the
mountains, things that are so beyondmaybe our comprehension that could be so beautiful.
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Like when we see you know,the islands. I know, I
think of like wow, That tome reflects the majesty of God his creations.
The Bible talks about his majesty andthe things that he creates. Humans,
human beings. We reflect God's seeas well. We're his, We're
one of his greatest creations. Andwe're still talking about his all Like I'm
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in all. Like when when yousee somebody and they look good, that's
the majesty of God. You're likewow, like a man, woman,
that's the majesty of God right there. It's seen. It's in his beauty.
That's you know, it's a sight. It's different from it could be
different from being, you know,the feeling of it, maybe in his
reverence, which is a little bitdifferent. And then it's also talking about
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His power and it's not just howdo we describe this Holy Spirit. The
example that we gave was the partingof the Red Sea acts of God that
you're like, all right, daddy, like that was like what you know,
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like like what you shared with whathappened with you, like the grace
of God, like the majesty ofGod. You were in situation. You
guys got to go back and andlisten to the message, but situation with
you, and and I wanted togo back to that situation with you.
That was to me, that wasthat was an act of God right there?
Yeah, yes, yes, itwas, Yes, it was that
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was God. Yes, because Icould, like I said, I wouldn't
have been there, you know,to be here today, yeah you know
the guns in my head, thatwould have been it. But God,
yes, you know yes. Andoh how were you left after that?
Like you were in awe? Thatwas like whoa, yes, right,
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yes, that was yes, yes, yes. And I wanted to just
I wanted to just to add tothat because I wanted to say what you
described it sounded like, you know, a lot of times we place ourselves
outside of the will of God,not to say that God makes things bad
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things happen to us. But whenwe place ourselves outside of the will of
God, we are the ones thatplace ourselves in harm's way. Right,
look at you. God Toldah,gave Donah specific instructions, and Jonah went
in the opposite direction, and whathappened to him? Right, he put
himself in harm's way. Yes,we have to be mindful of that.
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And I believe that it wasn't somuch of a sign. I believe that
it was a wake up call foryou. God does allow things to happen
that will wake us up. Yes, all right, well I'll let you
go on. I love you somuch, daughter, son, I'll let
you go continue going on in thepath that you're going on. And so,
yeah, go ahead. I believeI'm talking a little bit. Go
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ahead, tell me right again.It goes back to it's a choice because
it's free will. You know he'she's not a bully. God is not
a bully. He's not gonna pushyourself. Yeah, you know, he's
there, so he makes us freewill to choose. So we make the
choices. Yes, you know,we make those choices. But God's grace,
he's still there for us. Butwe choose that. Yeah. So
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if he's telling us to go rightand we go last, he's still didn't
waiting for us. But like yousaid, we chose to laugh and we
put ourselves in arms away. Yeahyeah, yeah, solve the bad that
he has for us. Yeah.And you know, I was also tell
me what your thoughts on this are, because when I was listening to your
testimony, and God had spoke thisto me last year about the fear of
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the Lord. If there's a lackof the fear of the Lord, and
sometimes when we have those wake upcalls, is to put the fear of
the Lord back into our lives.Does that make sense? Sometimes it takes
unfa Sometimes it takes that that reverenceand and and unfortunately, boy boy,
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I don't know why the Lord hasn'tgone by this erect somebody likes to hear
it. You see it a lotin the young people, because when I
turn on the news and I'll belike, Lord, what's going on?
These young people? They dying?Not them right? Like He's told me,
it's because of the fear. Thatfear And if you go back and
really study the fear of the Lordand the benefits when you were in psalms
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about the fear of the Lord,and then when you don't, when there's
a lack of the fear of God, there are consequences, yes, yes,
And that's just about choice, notso much about the law. It's
about disobedience and rebellion lead to consequenceswhen you're outside and you're not listening to
the authority that's placed upon you,whether it be your parents or even leadership,
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there are counsels. Even in ourmarriages, there are consequences because you
know, in the marriage relationship,now we got divine order as well.
So even that, there are consequenceswhen there's a lack of the fear of
the Lord in your life and you'rerebelling against the authority who is your husband,
who is your mom? There areconsequences for every decision that we make.
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Yes, am I right or mywrong? Elder, Now, you're
right, you're right. That's sotrue, so true. You know,
at the time when we're doing it, we're not thinking about those consequences.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so thinking what the outcome could be
for us or our choice is howto confect other people, were not just
us? Yes, sometimes yes,yes, yes, amen, And I
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want to encourage others. And I'mgrateful that your testimony it didn't stay where
it was. Yeah, you receivedit. You received the grace, and
that was the thing you received,that grace. Yes, yes, and
your actions reflected the turnaround you likelisten. And I don't believe it was
something that you did, because Ithink it was like one of those things
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that you had to desire and Godcontinue to draw you and draw you and
draw you into His presence. Youknow. The goble says, the goodness
of God leaves them, leads aman or I'm gonna just save woman to
repentance, because you were, likeI was, in church every sun,
you know. But I believe thatit was the leading and the grace and
the majesty that led you to theHouse of God. Amen. Amen,
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Amen, Baby, you want tosay anything, No, I really want
to dig in to how you metyour husband, How your husband met you,
How did that happen? That's good. Yeah. How we met was
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actually at work. We both weredoing nursing then, so he he was
coworkers. And like I tell everybody, if I had met him like on
the street at another time, Idon't think we would have dated. But
because we were co workers. Wegot close as friends and that's the basis.
So we knew each other. Weknew everything about each other because he
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was his friends, you know,was close friends. So I knew what
his looks meant. I knew heknew what my looks meant because we were
just friends. And I think whenyou're dating somebody for the first time,
you put on airs or he's notreally you, so people don't really know
you till later on. But forme, I'm like, oh, mean
no, the looks, so Iknow, I said, oh, yeah,
you didn't like what I just said. I can tell oh they knew
that, you know. But itwas like the way God did it because
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we worked at a Baptist nursing homesand so actually the it ran by Baptists.
Baptist churches owned it. So andat the time because my husband's father
is the sister pastor of a Baptistchurch, so he said, he k
kid, you know, but atthe time when we met, he wasn't.
He was a servant the lord afterhis he had you know, he
got married before and he was divorcedafter ten years, so he that was
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a stepped back in the church afterhis divorce. So when we met,
he was like that I was gettingback into the church and he was out
of the church. And we justthought, you know, like I said,
his friends of dating. So,to make another long story short,
on Sundays they had services different churchesfrom the Baptists, Oranization would come in
and I would see his father alot of times or stand up being my
father in law. Now you know, one of their close buddies that he
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called another dad signed our checks.But I had no you know, I
went, Okay, hey, that'sthe pastor of the church. Moving on.
I had no idea it was evergonna date him. So it was
like I was showing me my inlaws before we even dated. Wow.
And so and another nurse home Iworked at, my sister in law was
working there. We got good relationshipwith friends talking thought about her husband.
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Her husband was from North Caroline.I said, yeah, I'm day my
husband is from North Carolina. Youknow my fiance is from North Carolina.
And all that nothing new that theywas that that was my sister call me
my sister in law to the dayof the wedding. So it was liked
was showing me my in laws beforeI even knew it, So that was
like, wow, lord, youknow you said back, and you look
at that. I'm like, oh, okay, God, you know,
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but that's actually how we met.Me and my husband meant to through working
together. So we dated May oneyear, dated like six months, got
engaged in the following year we gotmarried. How did you all manage to
navigate that working together and everything,because well it was and in a sense
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it's can I say it? Becausewe were friends and close friends, and
when close friends, we never atthe time looked at each other for dating
each other. So I'm trying tomatch him up with somebody and I was
thinking somebody else, you know,So it was like wow, and then
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we both stopped dating that person.But then I had a dream and God
showed me him and I was like, God, he's shown me him,
my husband, you know whatever,And that was it. And I didn't
know till later on if I gotmarried and I was talking to someone and
my husband overheard it and I said, yeah, I had a dream about
my husband before we actually started dating. And he was like, I know
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when you had that dream. Isaid, what do you mean? And
he told me and I said,well, why did you how did you
all have the dream? I nevertold you, he said, because every
time we walked into a room together, you will run off the room.
And I said, I literally didthat. He said, yes, every
day on the job you want to, we will walk into a room with
you to with a patient. Youwere one out the room and I said,
I literally did that. And Iwas like wow. But that was
because I guess I didn't understand exactlywhat was happening. So God was showing
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me in my dream. I waslike, huh, you know. And
so then when he asked me out, I was like, well, okay,
and that's how I came about.Oh wow, wow, wow.
And that's how I came about,you know. But like I said,
I already knew the history. Ialready knew he was divorced, already knew
he had six kids. So itwas all those things. Yes, the
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people used to joke at me andthey asked me, they're like, you
right, a man with this kids? When you drunk? You know,
Like, no, I knew,you know, But that's that's how I
came about. So I knew allthose things. And that's why I said,
being that we established a friendship firstand really met something because we had
that foundation. Wow. Wow,I think you just encouraged some something something
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somebody somewhere right somewhere. Amen.So you all are a blended family.
Wow? Yes, yes, soyeah, we're gonna have to dig into
that at another time. Yeah,challenge, but praise god. How did
he engage you? But as wejust swall, Yeah, like I said,
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he asked me out and we wenton different outings because another coworker of
ours always playing trips, you know, like to amusement parks, to museums,
to theaters and I like those things. I like the theater and things
like that. So we always wentout on those different types of gate dates
and gatherings and things like that.Oh man h. So that's how we
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stuff started. You know, datedin each other and then you know we
had it was issues there with otherco workers and all of that, but
we got engaged. That was it. They was like, oh, okay,
they're really gonna do it. That'ssolid. This is a solid,
solid religion. Yeah. They wastrying to believe. Everybody was trying to
everything you could think of, man, you know, and they knew it
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was an age difference. Betwe me. That's because it is it's like a
fourteen years age difference. Okay,so my husband is fourteen years older than
me. Okay, so you know, did anybody advertise say he took old
for your girl? You need tohave to shaate somebody some more your age,
you know, that's the thing.Yeah. I didn't want to.
Yeah, I didn't want to saythat. And I have a couple of
people say, when you look fora father figure. I said no,
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no, you know, by thething back because that was about the same
age difference as my mom and dadwas. Oh yeah, my dad was
like thirteen years old than my mom. Yeah, because my mom, hey
me, I was the last child. She wasn't expecting me. She had
one of the more kids, soshe had me in her forties and my
dad was like fifty five when Iwas born. Because I remember people used
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to think my dad was my grandfatherand and my dad yeah, so yeah,
I love me to God. Sothat's that's that's really, that's that's
really a that should encourage other people, you know, because when you're not
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looking, that's when it happens.You know, yes, you know,
and that's how you know when it'sreally God. You know, yes,
did you specifically hear from God.Oh wait, wait you had dreams?
Right? Yeah, I had adream. Yeah. It was always like
you're catching up with your dreams ina sense. Right, Yes, that's
the Yes, that's that's what itwas. It was like, yeah,
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the oh I had that dream.I was like, what that's all?
So we talked about twenty seven yearshere? Yes, twenty seven right,
yes, twenty seven years. Beenthrough a lot of things in twenty seven
years, yeah, telling you yeah, you know, and like I tell
people that thirt ye, I wasn't. I was expecting to see a fourth
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year. Wow. So only godM question question, Yes, sous are
married? Was it now? Fiveyears? Okay? Five years? Been
together? Been together? Been together? Seven? Right? How how how
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did you make it? How didy'all make it work? Because I feel
like, wow, I mean,you know, I'm going to be married.
I think I think I'm going tobe married to my wife in heaven.
Okay that's right. So so withthat being said, how did y'all
make it work? And you know, like how I know? Right?
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Well, you really had to firstof all, know that you really want
it? Do you want to makea stuffce to make it work? And
both people have to you have tocome to realizations, say do you do
you want this so you can putin the work to make it happen.
So ow main thing was the communicationpiece. I'm a communication person, communicating
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in That's how we got together soquickly because we communicated so well. So
when the communication piece stopped for mein that third year, that's what the
issue that I had, you know. And so I was like, well,
wait a minute. You know,it was like we became roommates instead
of being married, you know.And I was like, oh, wit
man, cause we were still workingtogether, but it was like no talking,
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no nothing, Come on, okay, you want something me, you
know, blah blah blah. Andthat was it. So I was like,
wait, Mien, something that ain'tright here, you know. And
I was like, well, doyou want to get a divorced? Do
you want to do this? Andhe was like why, I'm thinking maybe
live in the same household. Youdon't see the issue here, you know.
And so that's why I was like, but Lord, that's why I
went to the Lord. I waslike, because I was soaching. I
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was live trying to figure out howto get out of this merge. How
can I have a divorce and nothingin there. You know. It wasn't
like a bruce. So that's wasn'tit. You know, I give you
three things. You know, ifit's stopping him, he's stopping you from
serving God. He's not doing that. He wasn't doing it, you know.
The end of those things that was. I was like, you know,
will give you a reason to separateor anything like that, And it
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wasn't. It was. It's justthat the communication, the love wasn't there
anymore, you know. And Iand realized later on God showed me what
I was doing to be to hinderin it. And you know, you
always want to point that faith.Yeah, you always gonna put the you
know, the finger. And I'mthinking, well, God, he ain't
start that going to church. I'mgoing to church. So if he ain't
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going to church, he ain't youknow, from God. He I'll be
here from the devil. I don'tknow. I'm here from you, you
know. You know, hey thatlittle on me, you know. And
so he was like, I waslike, no, you just need to
be quiet. I'm like, bequiet, be quiet, you know.
And God was like yeah, becauseyou're not allowing me to even for him
to even hear from me. Iwas like, what you know, so
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that was yeah, that was awhole new album. So I said,
okay, So in that was wordsthat God said he was working on me,
had to work on myself, andhe will take care of him.
And that's what happened. I hadto realize what I was doing. So
I was making him feel less ofa man by my reactions and my responses
to him, so that would causehim to shut down. But I didn't
see that that I was doing that. I'm just thinking, Hey, we
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have the conversation that we always talk. This is how I feel blah blah
blah blah blah. And he waslike okay, and that just made him
shut down more. Oh so youwere the So you was some of the
cause of the lack of communication ofsomething that you wanted the most. Yes.
And I'm thinking, because I'm runningmy mouth when people say, well,
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aggravating him or fussing on nagging,which really was ended up being just
really nagging, I'm thinking, hey, I'm communicating, you were communicating.
You just communicating the wrong way,right there? You gounicating Well, yeah,
let's not say the wrong way.But there was a better wayffective,
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yes, ineffective way right in anineffective way, yes, yeah, but
the bomb line was about right ineffect. But I like to keep a
pause. You just was there wasa better way that you wasn't exploring that.
You didn't even know that you hadto explore. No, I didn't
because I didn't see nothing wrong withthat. I think I'm just expressing our
feeling like we always have. Isee. So there was a level that
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you had to go to that Godwanted to take you to. And so
you know, we we have beenon a mission with a crew of people
called the War and Divorce. Getthe book, guys, Okay, the
more the Art of War on Divorce. And I think that there's a level
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of awareness in every marriage, notrelationship, but marriage where that D word
is uttered or thought about at somepoint in time because people think, uh
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that once you're married, everything isblessed, heavenly blessed, and that I
believe that's why a lot of marriagesdon't work, Uh, because as soon
as there's trouble, I think alot of people start doing what you did,
and many others do. You startpointing a finger at your spouse,
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not realizing that you're the problem.And uh, what happens is that you
wind up thinking you're you're perfect andthe other person isn't and they need to
work and you don't because they needto work and you don't. You have
the right to lead because you're nothappy because you're not happy because they didn't
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do what they were supposed to do. And so you're you're you're like j
you feel justified and wanting to divorce, not realizing that sometimes, uh,
a lot of the problem might restreally in you. And uh and so
divorces go south real quick. Andand and nowadays divorce lawyers, I like
to think it's a it's a it'sa gambit. Now it's a uh,
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it's a it's a it's it's ait's you know, yes, yes,
that's the true. And then whoyou confide and who you listen to.
Some people don't really need no harm. But I had no one really like
step, but one person really encouragingme to stick in it. And that's
in the church I was in.They always like, okay, you tried
it three years, go ahead andget divorced. So no one was encouraging
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me to stay in it. Wow, And that was surprising to me.
So I was like, huh,you know, they don't look back at
it, I said, when noone had, you know, it was
encouraging me to stick in it.Wow. Like I had one lady that
told me that, you know,pray for your marriage like you pray for
everybody else you take, You prayfor all the women ministry, you pray
for all this, you fast andpray for that fast and pray for your
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marriage. And I said, oh, I didn't think about that. Wow.
And like I said, that's whatI did. Was another lady that
prayer upon and we prayed, franstedand prayed for a whole year and a
half before a change. Jane.But that's what I did for my marriage.
We've been one day a week andwe did it. And you know,
but like again, like I tellpeople, sometimes you pull out this
in And if I didn't pull out, if I pulled down, then I
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weak a whole year and a halfbefore a change happened. I wouldn't be
something bringing twenty seven years now.Wow. If you just joined us,
you're listening to the Positive Power twentyone radio network. We have Elder Jan
Bonds' talking to the majesty of God. And she is testifying about the greatness
and power of God to sustain him, sustain how to be stay married?
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Y'all we getting married. The powerof God can keep you married. The
power of God, the majesty ofGod, his greatness is powered. There's
nothing too hard for God might nameof Jesus. No conflict, no no,
no, I want to say,no act of adultery. Everything is
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fixable. There's nothing too great inyour marriage that cannot be fixed if you're
willing. All things being equal nowand Elder Gene is here to testify and
she's sharing about her marriage. She'sbeen very transparent' Also, we pray that
this is blessing someone. Yeah,and we don't want to cut short those
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that are being abused in marriages.We're not, We're not, We're not
really referring to you. Yes,I mean, you know, if that's
happened, God doesn't want that.So if you have to do that for
that reason, then yes. Butas well, the power of God can
work the abuser too. So ifyou're if you're willing to stick it out,
you know, you just keep praying, keep your head up, and
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so forth and so on. Otherelder Jene, do you have any books
on your on on marriage or yourmarriage per se or all your on your
life. I'm actually one of thebooks that our co author talks about that
part of the marriage, and ittalks about the prayer and the fast thing
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that I did and the work onme, you know privaty, how God
did work on this individually and thenhe worked on the merriage connectively. So
all of that is talked about inthe book The Power of Prayer. And
it's like six co authors, eachof us tell our different story about prayer
and how God worked in our lives. Don't mind as what's dealing with marriage?
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Amen? How can they? Howcan they get that book? And
they can tech email me and boxme on Facebook or go to the website
w W dot gene bonds dot com. So that's j E. A.
N B O n d s dotcom. Outstanding. Uh, you gotta
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you got a couple more books inyour in your lives a man? Yes,
I did, Yes, I did. That's where got some beautiful powerful
years since I started. I launchedthe first book in December twenty twenty two.
Mm. Yeah so but yeah,and that was the art of forgiveness.
All of these are actually book collaborations. I'm part of co authors and
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all these books nice so I havethe chapters in these books. But that
was the Art of Forgiveness, andthat was the first book, and that
was on how God healed me andallowed me to forgive the guy that that
molested me when I was younger,and I talk about that and how doing
that led him to the Lord.Him and his family came to our church,
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got saved everything. Wow. Andhow when God really truly truly heals
you, then there's no issues thereand you know it. You know,
I can hug and pray for himand all of that is nothing near.
So that's how you know God hastruly healed you. You know, some
people say, oh, yeah,I forgive you, and they you know,
and then look in the other waywhen they try to hug you and
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you got issues and you know,different stuff comes up. It's none of
that. So I know I wastruly healed by God for that, you
know, And then you can seethe blessings in the fruit of it at
the it So, so I talkabout that and different levels of forgiveness.
Is that on your is that book? Also in your website. Yes it
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is okay, all right, soyou all can check out the show notes
in our podcast. Check out andgo and click the link. Elder,
excuse me, Genebonds dot com rightwww dot Genebonds dot com. Yes,
amen, yeah, yeah. Andthen the other two books is The Birth
and Purpose and Possibilities, so that'sanother code book. And then the other
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one is Joy three point sixty fivethat'll be launching this week, and then
in March, I'm launching the otherbook I'm part of, which is dealing
with our prayer? Oh man,amen? Amen? Uh? Do do
we have time? Can she comeback next week and maybe talk about the
launching the book launching next week?Are you available for that? Yes?
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I am okay, So we're gonnahave you come back next week cause of
course we can come to the endingof our episodes. What I wanted,
What I want you to do ifyou can, Uh, what's what's a
what's a word of encouragement for?Before we hang it up? What's what's
a word of encouragement that you cangive the person that's going through something in
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a tumultuous marriage and it is eyeingdivorced m write down what you're feeling what
you will want your marriage to be, and pray on that and ask God
how to make that happen, andyou're believe that He would give you the
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steps. Man, Stay encouraged,knowing that God doesn't want to see you
in pain. God has blessings andgreat things for you. Mmm. You
just gotta tap into it and believeit. M. You have a right
to be happy. You have aright to God's blessings. Hallelujah, hallelujah.
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That's wise words spoken. Hallelujah.Oh the gene bonds. Yes,
yes, stay tuned. She'll beback next week next week for part three.
Amen, see if God, y'all. Yes, very encouraging, inspiring
beauty. Amen. How can theyreach out to you if they have questions
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about anything anyway before they leave?You can they can email me that they
go to the website tut out theone contact me information. Oh, they
can just email me at the longy'all. But they can email me at
Woman to Woman's Conference at gmail dotcom. Amen. And we also have
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to talk about your businesses, yourministries as well, so we'll be doing
that next episode. Yes. Well, and on top of that, she's
off to doing other things right nowas she's talking to God is using her
in a mighty way measure as well. So Amen, Amen, I would
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love for you to just encourage encourageour listeners. You know how God is
using you. Yeah, next episode, Amen, stay tuned, y'all.
Amen, see you are soon.All right, guys, you've heard scene
with the visions of what other genesspoke about books, marriage, forgiveness.
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Hallelujah. You can you can getthis experience with the Lord Christ Jesus.
You can receive. Yes, youcan receive all of this and it available.
Amen. Amen, all available,and you can do it right now.
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Yes, repeat after my wife.This gets Christ in your life.
Now's the time, Amen, HeavenlyFather, Heavenly Father. I recognize.
I recognize that I am a sinner, that I am a sinner, and
I don't want to sin. Idon't want to sin anymore. I believe
you die. I believe you diefor me, for me, Rose rose
for me, and you're coming comingagain. Again. Come and live inside
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my heart. Now, live insidemy heart right now. Be my Lord,
Be my lord, over my life, over my life, Make me,
make me shape me into all thatyou would want me to b Lord,
I receive your forgiveness. Thank youLord for saving for saving me me.
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If you said that simple prayer,you meant it earnestly with your heart.
The Bible says that you are bornagain, You are saved, saved
from sins the minions, saved fromDad, saying from Hell, saying,
saved from your past and present andfuture sins. Amen, you are no
longer bound faith. Amen, Oldthings have passed. Behold, all things
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are made new. If you havequestions and want to learn more about your
salvation which you just received, reachout to u FL Ministries I N t
L at gmail dot com. It'svery important that you get connected to the
right people Bible based church or youcan be taught. Yes, you can
reach out to us on IG theLove Chapters p O. D. Dwayne
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the pastor. Also we are onface Buck Matthew's pastor Dwayne. I'm somewhere
in there devil slayers somewhere, that'sher. I'm still working on my socials,
y'all. But in any event,reach out if you have questions.
We'd love to hear from you.A man. Yeah, what she said,
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and like we always say, y'all, that's it. Ch'at for now.
We'll see you next week and onlyGod Jesus in the Holy Spirit,
love you more chatter now we're gonnaget that ending right. Love you guys,
love y'all, Love you out thereand see you soon. No man,
why let me tell you why women'sstep God and God to talk about.
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Willen step God and me, willstep God in me? God,
you know what I'm talking about.Let me tell you, will stop God
and check this out God, God, let me bring it down to God.
Jesus your job. Both the Medicosjode Minis we suggest the makeshift of
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when dread words to
True step to the spot. Youbrown man. Why let me tell you
why? Will stop? God andgone to talk about? Will stop God?
And me? Will list stop?God? In me? God,
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you don't know what I'm talking about. Let me tell you. Will listop
God and check this out, God, God, let me break it down
to your God, Jesus, holdthe stop, because Jordan, we're here.
We're here, we are bad,we are us, we are we
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are them, we are them,we are we God chosen. She is
she, Yes, you're you.I'm me. These days, at times,
we have to really be really uhclear about our pronoun oh yes,
yes, yes, yes, yeahyeah. And we have to be very
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clear about who we serve God,right hold on? Who are we?
We are mister and missus. I'mmissus Devil Slayers and I'm mister devil.
Are we all the love chapters?And we are in the studio on the
best radio network ever. Shout outto Positive Power twenty one Radio. Jut
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out to Jerry Royce, Shout outto all of our colleagues that are laboring
for the Lord on air and offare y'all, I mean, we're we're
grateful to have this platform to beable to preach and teach and exhort,
but there are other platforms that Godcalls us to. So we we tap
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our hats off to all the leadersin the Body of Christ who are laboring.
Please remember to just lift each otherup. You know, the Word
says pray one for another. Andyou know, you never know what what
your brother and sisters are going through. You never know a lot of times
what leaders go through. You know, your your spiritual leaders, your pastors,
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those that are called to the ecclesia. So don't forget your leaders to
pray for them, pray their strengthin the Lord, and pray one for
another. Pray for your brothers andsisters as well. Amen. Amen,
Amen, Amen? That what what? What is the ecclesia. Ecclesia is
the fivefold? Well, excuse me, it's not fivefold anymore, as we
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were corrected. It's the fourfold.Pastor teacher is one ministry gift. Pastor
teacher, then we have the prophet, we have the apostle, and that's
it. Yeah, what she said, we learned, Oh this was another
teaching, but we had learned thatthe pastor and the teacher our are one
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of our highly I guess we highlylook up to a spiritual leader. He
taught on this that you have torightly divide the word of God. And
so in reading that, all ofus, even myself, always thought that
it was a five foald, Butif you read it correctly, it's the
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pastor teacher. Teaching gift goes withthe pastoral so its pastor teacher is one
gift in itself, because you actuallyneed the teaching gift in order to pastor.
Amen speaking of pastors and apostles andprophets and so forth. Yes,
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yes, yes, yes yes.If you've been following us God, we've
been talking about the great the attributesof God, his greatness, his mercy,
his power, his majesty, andwe've been actually bringing on people who
can testify. So if you joinedus last week, we had on Elder
Gene, and we have her backand we are going to continue on with
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the conversation because we were just gettingstarted, y'all. We were just getting
started. We were coming from somesongs forty forty five and five. She
was talking about the wonders and shewas good, she was going in.
So without further ado, we haveher back in the house. Welcome back,
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Elder Jean to the love chap here'sthe chip. Thank you for praying
for me, Woman of God.Oh, thank you, thank you,
thank you for having me back.Yes, yes, all right man,
Amen, welcome back, shout out. I thank you for your prayer and
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just always being ready willing to table. Amen, especially since you're doing a
lot of things too. Yes,yes, you know, God equips us,
you know for the long haul.Yes, that's amen. So let's
just jump right into it because weleft off Elder Gene. For those that
don't know anything about Elder Gene,briefly, is an ordained licensed minister,
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and she flows an apostolic and propheticand she's serial entrepreneur, I want to
say, motile entrepreneur. She hasa lot of businesses. She serves on
in many capacities in women's ministry.So we're gonna put her link in the
in the show notes so you guyscan check out all that she does.
(05:35):
But at the core, in theheart of who she is, I would
say she's a worshiper at heart,Amen, we stopped, we stopped at
worship. We were we were goingsomewhere, and we stopped at worship.
So let's pick back up where weleft off Yes, it was yes,
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no, great, I believe thathe was talking about worships. We left
off at yes, yes, yes, your journey and how you became the
worshiper that you are today and thechallenges that you had and even within your
your home and amen. So let'sten, that's what does worship mean to you?
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Mm hm oh And there's something letme sum it up, yes,
yes, and then in God's presenceand just just just give it all to
him, just thinking him, justthinking of him and his Mighty One does
the things and wonderful things he didfor me because I always personalize it for
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myself. M m okay, rightman, Amen, amen, and it's
just lifted him up for who heis, what he's done. Okay.
So me right, I've never beena how can I say this, I've
never been a lover of music.Right. In fact, Uh, before
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I got saved, I thought thatyou know, uh, gospel music and
so forth and so on was uhuh God for prophet. So I always
thought it was a scam in therein Christian community, right yeah, And
so uh, being saved, Ilearned a lot about just how much uh,
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the the gospel of singing the gospelor gospel music can actually put you
in a good place, uh uh, a good mood with to receive from
God, to receive holy spirit fromGod. Ad well, well we we
have holy spirit in us. Butyou know you could receive uh, revelation
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worship and so forth and so on. So to me, worship was always
about dance and praise and so forthwith so on. Does it mean that
the same thing to you or isit a little different? That means the
same to me. Like I saidbefore, I was using to worship.
It just that the atmosphere to clearout some things for me, to keep
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my mind straight, to keep meclear and keep me focused. So to
me, it was a release ofthe things I was going through. So
I would put the music on andthat will helped me released and deal with
the things, the issues that Iwas dealing with within myself. There's some
things I couldn't voice to anybody else, but the music were ministered to me.
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Okay, yes, you know itwas like you know, some people
may run to other things for coverthat worship. For me, that was
it and I was just dance inmy living room just to release it.
And that's how I got close tobeing a worshiper, and then I never
know what a worshiping was it withthe title of worshiper wise and what that
even meant, you know, Buttalking to people that's what I did,
and they was like, well,that's that's natural. That's what it is.
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You're a worshiper, yes, youknow. And I just didn't naturally
in my home before I even startedminister and dance in the public. Okay,
okay, and I got some ofmy breakthroughs. I remember when I
used to first start listening to worshipmusic. It touched me so much because
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I didn't realize that a lot ofworship music has the words straight that's in
the Bible in the music. SoI started piecing together the words from the
Bible with the music and then hearingthe songs and the melodies and so forth
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and so on. So I rememberI used to when I was getting ready
for work and I used to justplay the music because it hit. It
was a vibe to me, it'shidden, and it was like, yeah,
that's how I'm that that that that'sthat's what I sense about God.
Everything that was it. So itwas like I just became like a student
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of the words, the lyrics,the lyrics, if you may. And
that's how I fell in love withpraising worship music, and and and because
it's it's it's a it's if youhave an attitude, I will say listening
to worship music is a two killer. It'll kill your too, It'll kill
your mood and put you in aplace of humbleness and humilitant. Yes,
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am I right about that? Yees? Correct, Well, it definitely does
humble you. I will say that. And I do believe that we're all
called I know certain people are like, well, we're all called to worship,
and worship is a lifestyle, andit's actually a posture of the heart.
It's not just singing, you know, it's not just dancing. Those
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are all expressions, and some ofus expressed our worships diffinitely math mistations of
worshiping differently. But we all arecalled to worship, which is a laying
down, a self sacrificial it's actuallya daily self sacrificial decision. Yes it
is wow wow, Yes, yes, ideally lifestyle. They're basically to a
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teaching idea one time on the threews of Worships, which I'm supposed to
be writing that as a book,but I stopped. But the three w's
of worship. You know, youget to recognize who are you worshiping?
Why are you even worshiping? Yes? Yes, yes, yes, yes,
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why are we worshiping? And youknow, and I love that we're
doing. As I was studying thisMajesty. You know, we need probably
as believers noing. Like you said, who are we worshiping? And why
are we worshiping? Well, Majestyexplains it all. You know, we
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hear the term worship him in worshiphis majesties. There's songs about worship his
Majesty, and sometimes we sing someof these songs and we're like, what
does you know? We really don'treally know. We don't really know what
it means. We're just singing along. So in this study and this study
I learned, I've been learning somuch about the word majesty and it's used.
You know, you look at Psalms, which David is the author of
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Psalms, and he was I wouldsay he was the ultimate worshiper. But
this word was used multiple times inPsalms and throughout scripture in general. But
one of the I wanted to justgo back and just define majesty because the
word majesty is something that can beseen and it could be it could be
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seen, it could be felt,right like an act, you know,
it's a response as well, likein worship like I'm in awe, oh
my gosh, you know, andand I want to just give a little
bit more description on that for thosethat may not have joined the teaching in
the first episode. But majesty indicates, it indicates the greatness of God in
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sight or sound, like I said, but it's not just sight and sound.
It's much more than that. Alot of times you hear majesty with
royal it also refers to royal authority. You know, when you see a
king and a queen your majesty,you're acknowledging the royal authority right when they
enter into the room. You're acknowledged. So it's the same with the with
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the presence of God worshiping, it'smore like that reverence and sometimes for me
reverence when you're reverencing that, you'rereverencing his majesty because the power I can
witness God's majesty in certain congregations becauseit's like one of those things where you're
in awe and you just can't movebecause you're you're like, I don't know
if you have you experienced that before, I know you have, elder.
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Yes, yes, yes, amen, so yes. So majesty is not
only seen regarding what God creates,because his majesty reflects the beauty got the
mountains, things that are so beyondmaybe our comprehension that could be so beautiful.
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Like when we see you know,the islands. I know, I
think of like wow, That tome reflects the majesty of God his creations.
The Bible talks about his majesty andthe things that he creates. Humans,
human beings. We reflect God's seeas well. We're his, We're
one of his greatest creations. Andwe're still talking about his all Like I'm
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in all. Like when when yousee somebody and they look good, that's
the majesty of God. You're likewow, like a man, woman,
that's the majesty of God right there. It's seen. It's in his beauty.
That's you know, it's a sight. It's different from it could be
different from being, you know,the feeling of it, maybe in his
reverence, which is a little bitdifferent. And then it's also talking about
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His power and it's not just howdo we describe this Holy Spirit. The
example that we gave was the partingof the Red Sea acts of God that
you're like, all right, daddy, like that was like what you know,
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like like what you shared with whathappened with you, like the grace
of God, like the majesty ofGod. You were in situation. You
guys got to go back and andlisten to the message, but situation with
you, and and I wanted togo back to that situation with you.
That was to me, that wasthat was an act of God right there?
Yeah, yes, yes, itwas, Yes, it was that
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was God. Yes, because Icould, like I said, I wouldn't
have been there, you know,to be here today, yeah you know
the guns in my head, thatwould have been it. But God,
yes, you know yes. Andoh how were you left after that?
Like you were in awe? Thatwas like whoa, yes, right,
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yes, that was yes, yes, yes. And I wanted to just
I wanted to just to add tothat because I wanted to say what you
described it sounded like, you know, a lot of times we place ourselves
outside of the will of God,not to say that God makes things bad
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things happen to us. But whenwe place ourselves outside of the will of
God, we are the ones thatplace ourselves in harm's way. Right,
look at you. God Toldah,gave Donah specific instructions, and Jonah went
in the opposite direction, and whathappened to him? Right, he put
himself in harm's way. Yes,we have to be mindful of that.
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And I believe that it wasn't somuch of a sign. I believe that
it was a wake up call foryou. God does allow things to happen
that will wake us up. Yes, all right, well I'll let you
go on. I love you somuch, daughter, son, I'll let
you go continue going on in thepath that you're going on. And so,
yeah, go ahead. I believeI'm talking a little bit. Go
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ahead, tell me right again.It goes back to it's a choice because
it's free will. You know he'she's not a bully. God is not
a bully. He's not gonna pushyourself. Yeah, you know, he's
there, so he makes us freewill to choose. So we make the
choices. Yes, you know,we make those choices. But God's grace,
he's still there for us. Butwe choose that. Yeah. So
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if he's telling us to go rightand we go last, he's still didn't
waiting for us. But like yousaid, we chose to laugh and we
put ourselves in arms away. Yeahyeah, yeah, solve the bad that
he has for us. Yeah.And you know, I was also tell
me what your thoughts on this are, because when I was listening to your
testimony, and God had spoke thisto me last year about the fear of
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the Lord. If there's a lackof the fear of the Lord, and
sometimes when we have those wake upcalls, is to put the fear of
the Lord back into our lives.Does that make sense? Sometimes it takes
unfa Sometimes it takes that that reverenceand and and unfortunately, boy boy,
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I don't know why the Lord hasn'tgone by this erect somebody likes to hear
it. You see it a lotin the young people, because when I
turn on the news and I'll belike, Lord, what's going on?
These young people? They dying?Not them right? Like He's told me,
it's because of the fear. Thatfear And if you go back and
really study the fear of the Lordand the benefits when you were in psalms
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about the fear of the Lord,and then when you don't, when there's
a lack of the fear of God, there are consequences, yes, yes,
And that's just about choice, notso much about the law. It's
about disobedience and rebellion lead to consequenceswhen you're outside and you're not listening to
the authority that's placed upon you,whether it be your parents or even leadership,
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there are counsels. Even in ourmarriages, there are consequences because you
know, in the marriage relationship,now we got divine order as well.
So even that, there are consequenceswhen there's a lack of the fear of
the Lord in your life and you'rerebelling against the authority who is your husband,
who is your mom? There areconsequences for every decision that we make.
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Yes, am I right or mywrong? Elder, Now, you're
right, you're right. That's sotrue, so true. You know,
at the time when we're doing it, we're not thinking about those consequences.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so thinking what the outcome could be
for us or our choice is howto confect other people, were not just
us? Yes, sometimes yes,yes, yes, amen, And I
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want to encourage others. And I'mgrateful that your testimony it didn't stay where
it was. Yeah, you receivedit. You received the grace, and
that was the thing you received,that grace. Yes, yes, and
your actions reflected the turnaround you likelisten. And I don't believe it was
something that you did, because Ithink it was like one of those things
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that you had to desire and Godcontinue to draw you and draw you and
draw you into His presence. Youknow. The goble says, the goodness
of God leaves them, leads aman or I'm gonna just save woman to
repentance, because you were, likeI was, in church every sun,
you know. But I believe thatit was the leading and the grace and
the majesty that led you to theHouse of God. Amen. Amen,
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Amen, Baby, you want tosay anything, No, I really want
to dig in to how you metyour husband, How your husband met you,
How did that happen? That's good. Yeah. How we met was
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actually at work. We both weredoing nursing then, so he he was
coworkers. And like I tell everybody, if I had met him like on
the street at another time, Idon't think we would have dated. But
because we were co workers. Wegot close as friends and that's the basis.
So we knew each other. Weknew everything about each other because he
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was his friends, you know,was close friends. So I knew what
his looks meant. I knew heknew what my looks meant because we were
just friends. And I think whenyou're dating somebody for the first time,
you put on airs or he's notreally you, so people don't really know
you till later on. But forme, I'm like, oh, mean
no, the looks, so Iknow, I said, oh, yeah,
you didn't like what I just said. I can tell oh they knew
that, you know. But itwas like the way God did it because
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we worked at a Baptist nursing homesand so actually the it ran by Baptists.
Baptist churches owned it. So andat the time because my husband's father
is the sister pastor of a Baptistchurch, so he said, he k
kid, you know, but atthe time when we met, he wasn't.
He was a servant the lord afterhis he had you know, he
got married before and he was divorcedafter ten years, so he that was
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a stepped back in the church afterhis divorce. So when we met,
he was like that I was gettingback into the church and he was out
of the church. And we justthought, you know, like I said,
his friends of dating. So,to make another long story short,
on Sundays they had services different churchesfrom the Baptists, Oranization would come in
and I would see his father alot of times or stand up being my
father in law. Now you know, one of their close buddies that he
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called another dad signed our checks.But I had no you know, I
went, Okay, hey, that'sthe pastor of the church. Moving on.
I had no idea it was evergonna date him. So it was
like I was showing me my inlaws before we even dated. Wow.
And so and another nurse home Iworked at, my sister in law was
working there. We got good relationshipwith friends talking thought about her husband.
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Her husband was from North Caroline.I said, yeah, I'm day my
husband is from North Carolina. Youknow my fiance is from North Carolina.
And all that nothing new that theywas that that was my sister call me
my sister in law to the dayof the wedding. So it was liked
was showing me my in laws beforeI even knew it, So that was
like, wow, lord, youknow you said back, and you look
at that. I'm like, oh, okay, God, you know,
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but that's actually how we met.Me and my husband meant to through working
together. So we dated May oneyear, dated like six months, got
engaged in the following year we gotmarried. How did you all manage to
navigate that working together and everything,because well it was and in a sense
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it's can I say it? Becausewe were friends and close friends, and
when close friends, we never atthe time looked at each other for dating
each other. So I'm trying tomatch him up with somebody and I was
thinking somebody else, you know,So it was like wow, and then
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we both stopped dating that person.But then I had a dream and God
showed me him and I was like, God, he's shown me him,
my husband, you know whatever,And that was it. And I didn't
know till later on if I gotmarried and I was talking to someone and
my husband overheard it and I said, yeah, I had a dream about
my husband before we actually started dating. And he was like, I know
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when you had that dream. Isaid, what do you mean? And
he told me and I said,well, why did you how did you
all have the dream? I nevertold you, he said, because every
time we walked into a room together, you will run off the room.
And I said, I literally didthat. He said, yes, every
day on the job you want to, we will walk into a room with
you to with a patient. Youwere one out the room and I said,
I literally did that. And Iwas like wow. But that was
because I guess I didn't understand exactlywhat was happening. So God was showing
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me in my dream. I waslike, huh, you know. And
so then when he asked me out, I was like, well, okay,
and that's how I came about.Oh wow, wow, wow.
And that's how I came about,you know. But like I said,
I already knew the history. Ialready knew he was divorced, already knew
he had six kids. So itwas all those things. Yes, the
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people used to joke at me andthey asked me, they're like, you
right, a man with this kids? When you drunk? You know,
Like, no, I knew,you know, But that's that's how I
came about. So I knew allthose things. And that's why I said,
being that we established a friendship firstand really met something because we had
that foundation. Wow. Wow,I think you just encouraged some something something
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somebody somewhere right somewhere. Amen.So you all are a blended family.
Wow? Yes, yes, soyeah, we're gonna have to dig into
that at another time. Yeah,challenge, but praise god. How did
he engage you? But as wejust swall, Yeah, like I said,
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he asked me out and we wenton different outings because another coworker of
ours always playing trips, you know, like to amusement parks, to museums,
to theaters and I like those things. I like the theater and things
like that. So we always wentout on those different types of gate dates
and gatherings and things like that.Oh man h. So that's how we
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stuff started. You know, datedin each other and then you know we
had it was issues there with otherco workers and all of that, but
we got engaged. That was it. They was like, oh, okay,
they're really gonna do it. That'ssolid. This is a solid,
solid religion. Yeah. They wastrying to believe. Everybody was trying to
everything you could think of, man, you know, and they knew it
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was an age difference. Betwe me. That's because it is it's like a
fourteen years age difference. Okay,so my husband is fourteen years older than
me. Okay, so you know, did anybody advertise say he took old
for your girl? You need tohave to shaate somebody some more your age,
you know, that's the thing.Yeah. I didn't want to.
Yeah, I didn't want to saythat. And I have a couple of
people say, when you look fora father figure. I said no,
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no, you know, by thething back because that was about the same
age difference as my mom and dadwas. Oh yeah, my dad was
like thirteen years old than my mom. Yeah, because my mom, hey
me, I was the last child. She wasn't expecting me. She had
one of the more kids, soshe had me in her forties and my
dad was like fifty five when Iwas born. Because I remember people used
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to think my dad was my grandfatherand and my dad yeah, so yeah,
I love me to God. Sothat's that's that's really, that's that's
really a that should encourage other people, you know, because when you're not
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looking, that's when it happens.You know, yes, you know,
and that's how you know when it'sreally God. You know, yes,
did you specifically hear from God.Oh wait, wait you had dreams?
Right? Yeah, I had adream. Yeah. It was always like
you're catching up with your dreams ina sense. Right, Yes, that's
the Yes, that's that's what itwas. It was like, yeah,
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the oh I had that dream.I was like, what that's all?
So we talked about twenty seven yearshere? Yes, twenty seven right,
yes, twenty seven years. Beenthrough a lot of things in twenty seven
years, yeah, telling you yeah, you know, and like I tell
people that thirt ye, I wasn't. I was expecting to see a fourth
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year. Wow. So only godM question question, Yes, sous are
married? Was it now? Fiveyears? Okay? Five years? Been
together? Been together? Been together? Seven? Right? How how how
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did you make it? How didy'all make it work? Because I feel
like, wow, I mean,you know, I'm going to be married.
I think I think I'm going tobe married to my wife in heaven.
Okay that's right. So so withthat being said, how did y'all
make it work? And you know, like how I know? Right?
(29:38):
Well, you really had to firstof all, know that you really want
it? Do you want to makea stuffce to make it work? And
both people have to you have tocome to realizations, say do you do
you want this so you can putin the work to make it happen.
So ow main thing was the communicationpiece. I'm a communication person, communicating
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in That's how we got together soquickly because we communicated so well. So
when the communication piece stopped for mein that third year, that's what the
issue that I had, you know. And so I was like, well,
wait a minute. You know,it was like we became roommates instead
of being married, you know.And I was like, oh, wit
man, cause we were still workingtogether, but it was like no talking,
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no nothing, Come on, okay, you want something me, you
know, blah blah blah. Andthat was it. So I was like,
wait, Mien, something that ain'tright here, you know. And
I was like, well, doyou want to get a divorced? Do
you want to do this? Andhe was like why, I'm thinking maybe
live in the same household. Youdon't see the issue here, you know.
And so that's why I was like, but Lord, that's why I
went to the Lord. I waslike, because I was soaching. I
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was live trying to figure out howto get out of this merge. How
can I have a divorce and nothingin there. You know. It wasn't
like a bruce. So that's wasn'tit. You know, I give you
three things. You know, ifit's stopping him, he's stopping you from
serving God. He's not doing that. He wasn't doing it, you know.
The end of those things that was. I was like, you know,
will give you a reason to separateor anything like that, And it
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wasn't. It was. It's justthat the communication, the love wasn't there
anymore, you know. And Iand realized later on God showed me what
I was doing to be to hinderin it. And you know, you
always want to point that faith.Yeah, you always gonna put the you
know, the finger. And I'mthinking, well, God, he ain't
start that going to church. I'mgoing to church. So if he ain't
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going to church, he ain't youknow, from God. He I'll be
here from the devil. I don'tknow. I'm here from you, you
know. You know, hey thatlittle on me, you know. And
so he was like, I waslike, no, you just need to
be quiet. I'm like, bequiet, be quiet, you know.
And God was like yeah, becauseyou're not allowing me to even for him
to even hear from me. Iwas like, what you know, so
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that was yeah, that was awhole new album. So I said,
okay, So in that was wordsthat God said he was working on me,
had to work on myself, andhe will take care of him.
And that's what happened. I hadto realize what I was doing. So
I was making him feel less ofa man by my reactions and my responses
to him, so that would causehim to shut down. But I didn't
see that that I was doing that. I'm just thinking, Hey, we
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have the conversation that we always talk. This is how I feel blah blah
blah blah blah. And he waslike okay, and that just made him
shut down more. Oh so youwere the So you was some of the
cause of the lack of communication ofsomething that you wanted the most. Yes.
And I'm thinking, because I'm runningmy mouth when people say, well,
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aggravating him or fussing on nagging,which really was ended up being just
really nagging, I'm thinking, hey, I'm communicating, you were communicating.
You just communicating the wrong way,right there? You gounicating Well, yeah,
let's not say the wrong way.But there was a better wayffective,
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yes, ineffective way right in anineffective way, yes, yeah, but
the bomb line was about right ineffect. But I like to keep a
pause. You just was there wasa better way that you wasn't exploring that.
You didn't even know that you hadto explore. No, I didn't
because I didn't see nothing wrong withthat. I think I'm just expressing our
feeling like we always have. Isee. So there was a level that
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you had to go to that Godwanted to take you to. And so
you know, we we have beenon a mission with a crew of people
called the War and Divorce. Getthe book, guys, Okay, the
more the Art of War on Divorce. And I think that there's a level
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of awareness in every marriage, notrelationship, but marriage where that D word
is uttered or thought about at somepoint in time because people think, uh
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that once you're married, everything isblessed, heavenly blessed, and that I
believe that's why a lot of marriagesdon't work, Uh, because as soon
as there's trouble, I think alot of people start doing what you did,
and many others do. You startpointing a finger at your spouse,
(34:30):
not realizing that you're the problem.And uh, what happens is that you
wind up thinking you're you're perfect andthe other person isn't and they need to
work and you don't because they needto work and you don't. You have
the right to lead because you're nothappy because you're not happy because they didn't
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do what they were supposed to do. And so you're you're you're like j
you feel justified and wanting to divorce, not realizing that sometimes, uh,
a lot of the problem might restreally in you. And uh and so
divorces go south real quick. Andand and nowadays divorce lawyers, I like
to think it's a it's a it'sa gambit. Now it's a uh,
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it's a it's a it's it's ait's you know, yes, yes,
that's the true. And then whoyou confide and who you listen to.
Some people don't really need no harm. But I had no one really like
step, but one person really encouragingme to stick in it. And that's
in the church I was in.They always like, okay, you tried
it three years, go ahead andget divorced. So no one was encouraging
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me to stay in it. Wow, And that was surprising to me.
So I was like, huh,you know, they don't look back at
it, I said, when noone had, you know, it was
encouraging me to stick in it.Wow. Like I had one lady that
told me that, you know,pray for your marriage like you pray for
everybody else you take, You prayfor all the women ministry, you pray
for all this, you fast andpray for that fast and pray for your
(35:59):
marriage. And I said, oh, I didn't think about that. Wow.
And like I said, that's whatI did. Was another lady that
prayer upon and we prayed, franstedand prayed for a whole year and a
half before a change. Jane.But that's what I did for my marriage.
We've been one day a week andwe did it. And you know,
but like again, like I tellpeople, sometimes you pull out this
in And if I didn't pull out, if I pulled down, then I
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weak a whole year and a halfbefore a change happened. I wouldn't be
something bringing twenty seven years now.Wow. If you just joined us,
you're listening to the Positive Power twentyone radio network. We have Elder Jan
Bonds' talking to the majesty of God. And she is testifying about the greatness
and power of God to sustain him, sustain how to be stay married?
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Y'all we getting married. The powerof God can keep you married. The
power of God, the majesty ofGod, his greatness is powered. There's
nothing too hard for God might nameof Jesus. No conflict, no no,
no, I want to say,no act of adultery. Everything is
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fixable. There's nothing too great inyour marriage that cannot be fixed if you're
willing. All things being equal nowand Elder Gene is here to testify and
she's sharing about her marriage. She'sbeen very transparent' Also, we pray that
this is blessing someone. Yeah,and we don't want to cut short those
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that are being abused in marriages.We're not, We're not, We're not
really referring to you. Yes,I mean, you know, if that's
happened, God doesn't want that.So if you have to do that for
that reason, then yes. Butas well, the power of God can
work the abuser too. So ifyou're if you're willing to stick it out,
you know, you just keep praying, keep your head up, and
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so forth and so on. Otherelder Jene, do you have any books
on your on on marriage or yourmarriage per se or all your on your
life. I'm actually one of thebooks that our co author talks about that
part of the marriage, and ittalks about the prayer and the fast thing
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that I did and the work onme, you know privaty, how God
did work on this individually and thenhe worked on the merriage connectively. So
all of that is talked about inthe book The Power of Prayer. And
it's like six co authors, eachof us tell our different story about prayer
and how God worked in our lives. Don't mind as what's dealing with marriage?
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Amen? How can they? Howcan they get that book? And
they can tech email me and boxme on Facebook or go to the website
w W dot gene bonds dot com. So that's j E. A.
N B O n d s dotcom. Outstanding. Uh, you gotta
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you got a couple more books inyour in your lives a man? Yes,
I did, Yes, I did. That's where got some beautiful powerful
years since I started. I launchedthe first book in December twenty twenty two.
Mm. Yeah so but yeah,and that was the art of forgiveness.
All of these are actually book collaborations. I'm part of co authors and
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all these books nice so I havethe chapters in these books. But that
was the Art of Forgiveness, andthat was the first book, and that
was on how God healed me andallowed me to forgive the guy that that
molested me when I was younger,and I talk about that and how doing
that led him to the Lord.Him and his family came to our church,
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got saved everything. Wow. Andhow when God really truly truly heals
you, then there's no issues thereand you know it. You know,
I can hug and pray for himand all of that is nothing near.
So that's how you know God hastruly healed you. You know, some
people say, oh, yeah,I forgive you, and they you know,
and then look in the other waywhen they try to hug you and
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you got issues and you know,different stuff comes up. It's none of
that. So I know I wastruly healed by God for that, you
know, And then you can seethe blessings in the fruit of it at
the it So, so I talkabout that and different levels of forgiveness.
Is that on your is that book? Also in your website. Yes it
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is okay, all right, soyou all can check out the show notes
in our podcast. Check out andgo and click the link. Elder,
excuse me, Genebonds dot com rightwww dot Genebonds dot com. Yes,
amen, yeah, yeah. Andthen the other two books is The Birth
and Purpose and Possibilities, so that'sanother code book. And then the other
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one is Joy three point sixty fivethat'll be launching this week, and then
in March, I'm launching the otherbook I'm part of, which is dealing
with our prayer? Oh man,amen? Amen? Uh? Do do
we have time? Can she comeback next week and maybe talk about the
launching the book launching next week?Are you available for that? Yes?
(41:10):
I am okay, So we're gonnahave you come back next week cause of
course we can come to the endingof our episodes. What I wanted,
What I want you to do ifyou can, Uh, what's what's a
what's a word of encouragement for?Before we hang it up? What's what's
a word of encouragement that you cangive the person that's going through something in
(41:36):
a tumultuous marriage and it is eyeingdivorced m write down what you're feeling what
you will want your marriage to be, and pray on that and ask God
how to make that happen, andyou're believe that He would give you the
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steps. Man, Stay encouraged,knowing that God doesn't want to see you
in pain. God has blessings andgreat things for you. Mmm. You
just gotta tap into it and believeit. M. You have a right
to be happy. You have aright to God's blessings. Hallelujah, hallelujah.
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That's wise words spoken. Hallelujah.Oh the gene bonds. Yes,
yes, stay tuned. She'll beback next week next week for part three.
Amen, see if God, y'all. Yes, very encouraging, inspiring
beauty. Amen. How can theyreach out to you if they have questions
(42:45):
about anything anyway before they leave?You can they can email me that they
go to the website tut out theone contact me information. Oh, they
can just email me at the longy'all. But they can email me at
Woman to Woman's Conference at gmail dotcom. Amen. And we also have
(43:09):
to talk about your businesses, yourministries as well, so we'll be doing
that next episode. Yes. Well, and on top of that, she's
off to doing other things right nowas she's talking to God is using her
in a mighty way measure as well. So Amen, Amen, I would
(43:30):
love for you to just encourage encourageour listeners. You know how God is
using you. Yeah, next episode, Amen, stay tuned, y'all.
Amen, see you are soon.All right, guys, you've heard scene
with the visions of what other genesspoke about books, marriage, forgiveness.
(43:57):
Hallelujah. You can you can getthis experience with the Lord Christ Jesus.
You can receive. Yes, youcan receive all of this and it available.
Amen. Amen, all available,and you can do it right now.
(44:17):
Yes, repeat after my wife.This gets Christ in your life.
Now's the time, Amen, HeavenlyFather, Heavenly Father. I recognize.
I recognize that I am a sinner, that I am a sinner, and
I don't want to sin. Idon't want to sin anymore. I believe
you die. I believe you diefor me, for me, Rose rose
for me, and you're coming comingagain. Again. Come and live inside
(44:45):
my heart. Now, live insidemy heart right now. Be my Lord,
Be my lord, over my life, over my life, Make me,
make me shape me into all thatyou would want me to b Lord,
I receive your forgiveness. Thank youLord for saving for saving me me.
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If you said that simple prayer,you meant it earnestly with your heart.
The Bible says that you are bornagain, You are saved, saved
from sins the minions, saved fromDad, saying from Hell, saying,
saved from your past and present andfuture sins. Amen, you are no
longer bound faith. Amen, Oldthings have passed. Behold, all things
(45:32):
are made new. If you havequestions and want to learn more about your
salvation which you just received, reachout to u FL Ministries I N t
L at gmail dot com. It'svery important that you get connected to the
right people Bible based church or youcan be taught. Yes, you can
reach out to us on IG theLove Chapters p O. D. Dwayne
(45:52):
the pastor. Also we are onface Buck Matthew's pastor Dwayne. I'm somewhere
in there devil slayers somewhere, that'sher. I'm still working on my socials,
y'all. But in any event,reach out if you have questions.
We'd love to hear from you.A man. Yeah, what she said,
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and like we always say, y'all, that's it. Ch'at for now.
We'll see you next week and onlyGod Jesus in the Holy Spirit,
love you more chatter now we're gonnaget that ending right. Love you guys,
love y'all, Love you out thereand see you soon. No man,
why let me tell you why women'sstep God and God to talk about.
(46:39):
Willen step God and me, willstep God in me? God,
you know what I'm talking about.Let me tell you, will stop God
and check this out God, God, let me bring it down to God.
Jesus your job. Both the Medicosjode Minis we suggest the makeshift of
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when dread words to
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