June 9, 2024 • 46 mins
"Navigating spiritual gifts in Marriage" w/ special guest Mitzie Holstein Pt 3 - 1 Corinthians 12: 1-7
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Let me tell you why when tostop God, God, to talk about
will step God, will step God, God, you don't know what I'm
talking about. Let me tell you, will step God, and me check
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this out God, God, letme bring it down to your God,
Jesus, God held the stop.Hello. Hello, I'm mister Devil Slayer
and I'm missus Devil Slayer and weare back in the house. And yeah,
I've been away for a long time. I know, I know my
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We just wanted to give a shoutout to all of you and all over
the world world who are in Yeah, we just wanted to say hello,
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business. I'm heavenly. Father.We just thank you, Lord, We
thank you, and we're just remindedhow awesome and grateful your majestys, your
greatnesses, your counselors, your graceis this evening, Father, and we
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just forget about everything else Lord thatmight be bothering us, bothered, just
to be in this present moment forsuch a time as this, Lord,
and we just thank you for yourspirit meeting us in our appointed need.
Lord, and let our hearts beopen to what you would have for us
to hear tonight's and let it bearmuch fruit in Jesus. And we pray
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Amen, Amen, Amen, Amen. So before we get started, just
want to let you know, guys, know that there have been forces that
have been coming against us to tryto stop us from from doing this episode.
Okay, So I mean this mustbe a very important episode that people
really need to hear because I believethat I believe it has a place.
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I really believe it has a place, and that it's very important. So
without further ado, let's go tothe scripture and let's break it down.
Beer. Can you read? Wasit Hebrews twelve verse four through eleven place?
So we're going to be coming fromHebrews twelve four through eleven. I
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am reading out of the Amplified Bible. It says you have not yet struggled
to the point of shedding blood inyour striving against sin, and you have
forgotten the divine word of encouragement,which is addressed to you as sons,
my son do not make light ofthe discipline of the Lord, and do
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not lose heart and give up whenyou are corrected by him. For the
Lord disciplines and corrects those whom heloves, and he punishes every son whom
he receives and welcomes. Verse seven. You must submit to correction for the
purpose of discipline. God is dealingwith you as with sons. For what
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son is there whom his father doesnot discipline. Now if you are exempt
from correction and without discipline in whichall of God's children share, then you
are illegitimate children and not sons atall. Verse nine. Moreover, we
have had earthly fathers who disciplined us, and we submitted and respected them for
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training us. Shall we not muchmore willingly submit to the Father of spirits
and live by learning from his discipline. For our earthly fathers disciplined us for
only a short time, as seemedbest to them. But He disciplines us
for our good, so that wemay share his holiness Verse eleven. For
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the time being, no discipline bringsjoy, but seems sad and painful,
yes to those who have been trainedby it. Afterwards, it yields the
peace full fruit of righteousness, rightstanding with God, and a lifestyle and
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attitude that seeks conformity to God's willand purpose. Yeah. See, that's
that's that's very important. I wantto I want to talk. I want
to talk to y'all. I wantto talk about one of the biggest things
that's coming on in Internet lately andor social media and and even on the
news about uh Patsa Keon. Iwanna I wanna talk on it. I
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wanna touch on that, Okay,because so much I wanna say about the
Man of God uh, or theor the situation at hand. Okay.
Uh. First off, I respectPastor key On, I respect to his
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church, and the man is definitelyanointed. Okay. And I'm not here
to gossip. I'm not here thegossip. I'm not here to uh uh
I'm not I'm not here to tojudge anybody. What I'm here is to
set the order in place, toto t to inform what is the correct
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order? Uh, Because there arepeople that have been saying that, Well,
okay, well let's talk about thesituation first. Okay. Uh.
There was a Pastor Keyon uh ofa singing and he had his Uh.
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Well, if I managed it was. It was it was a worship slash
church service, but it was amoment. It was a moment when they
had the choir and the praise temon the ussuring the presence of just to
set the scene for you, all, assuring in the presence of God.
And so Pastor Keon was obviously onstage, you know, just trying to
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tap into the spirit of the Lord, you know, maybe to get a
prophetic word or what have you forthe people. So that's the that's the
scene, right, But he wasactually singing, yes, and he was
in the middle of pristhetic prophetic songand so forth, moving in the gifts
of the spirit. Right, yes, that that right, that's so true.
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And one of the choir members startedpanting and crying and and just just
again there was I guess a videothat went viral and it only showed a
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snippet during this worship experience of thiswoman of God who was more like shrieking,
right, yeah, yeah, itwas like shrieking, and it sort
of caused a disruption, to saythe least, within the service and within
the ministry in that moment, inthat moment, right, right, So
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at that particular time passed a keyOn stopped singing and went over to the
lady and told her to hush.He said he's not the fingers and told
her to hush. She said herstop her speaking to I guess maybe the
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helps Ministry of writers stop her.And then he also said silence. This
is very important. But he didn'tsay it in a nasty ring, you
know. It was very calm andvery controlled. But he took his authority.
Yeah right, yeah, yeah,yeah, yep. And then immediately
the woman what she stopped, Shestopped immediately. And then as passed it
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passed, Keyan began to then uh, he made he made a comment and
again he made a statement about whyhe did what he did, right,
okay, and so in saying thatthis thing, this video went viral and
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everybody had mixed reviews on it,and a lot of the mixed reviews came
from fellow brothers and sisters in Christ, and all of a sudden, it's
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kind of interesting that a lot ofthe brothers and Sisters in Christ came out
against what he did. It wasn'tin his favor. While did agree with
what he did. In fact,most of his congregants at the time agreed
with what he did, but thosethat don't go to the church disagreed,
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and so there were a lot ofindividuals saying that pase Keyon as a narcissist,
that he's controlling, that he's overbearing, and a lot of it came
from individuals who were of the church. Then said that that's the reason why
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they left church, of why theyjoined different churches because they went through the
same experiences at their churches and thenthey moved to other churches. And other
people said that that's why they're notcoming to Christ because of these type of
things that go on in the church. Okay, and so I the reason
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why I'm pausing so much is becausethere's so many different topics that I want
to discuss, but I just wantedto The reason why I wanted to use
that scripture is because people are saying, well, passing didn't show love to
to that individual. So to setthe record even more straight for people who
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don't know, this is not thefirst time that this individual has done something
like this. In fact, she'sdone this several times in a four year
period, where us just have beenused to try to calm her down.
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She h where different types of leadershiptried to deal with her that this was
an ongoing process. Now, thereason why I'm talking about this on the
radio is because I'm it's not rightthat we're uh, we're hearing so many
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different takes on what's right, andpeople putting out posts and so forth and
so on. And these are Christians, mind, you do we we should
all be on one core. Butwhat we're supposed to be doing as Christians.
But we'll get into that. Butas it said, as it says
in scripture, for the Lord disciplesdisciplines the one that he loves, okay,
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and chastise is every son whom hereceives. And when you need son
to mean son and daughter, okay, So how does the Lord chastise?
How does the Lord discipline with loveand correction, right as a father disciplo
mother disciplines their children right, justthe same way. You can't you cannot
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separate the two, right exactly.But the key point that you said there,
he does it just like the fatherdisciplines their child, just like how
a mother disciplines their child. Right. So how God chastises individuals is can
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be one way through people, okay. And and so with that being said,
this one, This, this womanwho obviously needs deliverance. She got
chastised by Pastor Kion who believed thathe was being led in spirit to do
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that. So here it is not. So here's the deal. And I'm
trying to I don't want to.I don't want to blow up on anybody.
Okay, But unless you're in apastoral position, how can you tell
what a pastor is supposed to do? Who are you to say what a
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pastor is supposed to do? Youthe non believer who don't even believe?
How are you going to try totell a pastor how he supposed to run
his congregation? How are you acongregant supposed to tell how a pastor is
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supposed to operate? Are you apastor? How have you been trained up
as a pastor? So, howis the sheep going to tell the shepherd
how he's supposed to run his church? How is the sheep that's not even
in his church supposed to tell thatshepherd how to run his how to run
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his sheep? Who are you?You are in no position to try to
say, or do or tell apastor how he should run he or she
should run their church. You areno physician whatsoever. Okay, the man
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of God or the woman of Godthat's in charge of that church, if
they believe that they're being led bya Holy Spirit to operate in a certain
way, you have no say soin the matter. All your job is
to do, especially from a fifteento twenty minute video clip, is to
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pray. That's it. So,as far as I'm concerned, since there
was a four year soldier and withthis woman to try to get her to
stop past the kayan simply was usedby the Lord to discipline her and to
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show her love. That's it.That's it. So the fact that we
don't attend that church, are youdon't attend that church? That you can't
just judge. I mean, youcan judge from a fifteen to twenty minute
clip, but you really wasn't there. So what right do you have to
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judge so harshly if you wasn't there. You don't know the history. You
do not know the history. Didyou want to say someday I'll wait go
ahead, No, no, goon, go on? No, there's
so many, so many directions thatthis come for safe. We're so slow
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at the beginning, yeah, togo and we only have a limited amount
of time, unlett the Lord seesfit to stretch us out. But here's
the thing I think, because welive in a society that really lacks the
reverence of authority anyway, and it'svery common whenever authority is to be asserted,
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it's like counterculture, like you know, and so that person whoever has
to do it is looked at asthe bad guy unfortunately. And I think
we forget the position of authority thatpeople in leadership carry, such as pastors,
such as police officers, such asparents such as mothers, such as
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fathers, and as soon as theyeven husbands, he or she puts their
foot down in a way that theperson that might be under subjection or under
them and has to use their authorityis like the whole world stops. And
I think that's become an issue andall of a sudden that person is no
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longer loving because they had to disciplinethem. But how if we go back
to the analogy that was given inthe verse that I just read we just
read and shared, you have tothink about the way a child is disciplined
and are you really loving your child? You're not gonna loving your child?
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Isn't always mean giving them what theywant all the time, whatever feels good.
That's not good parenting. That's irresponsibleparenting. It's not always going to
feel good. Do you always giveinto what they want, what they want?
To know, you don't, andI hope you don't some parents do.
You know. Everybody has their ideaof how to parent. But biblically
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speaking, it does require discipline whenyou are a babe. When you are
a babe in Christ, we've allbeen babes, we all still need discipline
at some point and another. Itdoesn't even matter even when you become a
tour you still should be receiving correctionin some sort of fashion. But it
all boils down to this area ofauthority in our society in general. All
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the way down from the youth allthe way up, there's been a challenge
of a authority that and and that'sthat's that's that's what I was trying to
say. I was trying to saythat the past pastor Kon is the man
of God. He's the one thatruns to church, he's the one in
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authority. If he is the onein authority, at some point in time,
he needs to assert his authority.Right. So that's a part of
the job. That's part exactly.So that means at any given point in
time that he might have to checksomebody. Uh, and it's in the
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public eye, he's gonna look likethe bad guy, which which which?
Which belief is me? Because menand women of God, we're supposed to
be understanding of that. Yeah,you're right, I guess what it says.
That's what it says. It sayshere in verse eleven, for the
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moment, I'm reading from the ESVversion, it says, for the moment,
all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant. So the world is telling you
that when you have to be disciplined, it's your flesh. It's not like,
yeah, your soul is soul.It's not gonna like it. But
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it doesn't mean that it's not necessary. Right, it's necessary, and that
it's not needed and that that persondoes not love you. You cannot say
that you as a mom who hasto and a lot of times well sorry,
I'm getting ahead of myself, butyou cannot say that a mom likes
a lot of times to discipline orhave to throw down the hatchet when it's
needed to their child. Some parentsthat i've spoken to. They don't like
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that, but it's necessary. It'ssomething that comes with the territory of being
a parent, because only it's aposition. It's a position as a mom
or a father. It is aposition, a role of authority. You
are over that child. And that'swhy that's why everybody is not a pastor
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andrusted. That's why everybody is trustingyou with that child. Exactly. That's
why everybody is not a pastor becausewith those who aren't a pastor don't know
what it's like to walk in apastor's shoes or what a pastor has to
do. So it's easy to bein a conftent and to criticize the pastor
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if I'm mad atget in the samemanner I lost my train of thought.
Giving back to me, Holy Spirit, please. As a pastor has to
also correct the sheep and discipline thesheep. Sheep can go astray. Got
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to bring them back, you gottaAnd I'm gonna read this scripture. But
like I said, I'm using amother and a father. The parents.
They have to be accountable to theLord, just as much as a pastor
is accountable to Lord about there whothat they've been entrusted with. Pastor has
congregants that they're entrusted with, thatthey are accountable to their soul. So
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it's a very it's a serious position. You can have fun, but it's
still serious. You know, PastorKian is accountable to God. I wanted
to go back as well, becauseagain I think we forget that there is
a purpose for leadership in the Bodyof Christ. And I think I was
reading a post or something, butI want to go back on why God
had placed places leadership in the Bodyof Christ. And I'll give the floor
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back to you. Ephesians four andeleven. I'm just going jumping down.
You know when when Jesus ascended,he says eleven, So Christ himself gave
to the body. He gave gifts. These are gifts the people were actually
given as gifts. There are giftsto the body, apostles, prophets,
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evangelists, pastors, teachers. That'sactually one gift. But it says the
reason why he did this was toequip his people for works of service,
so that the Body of Christ maybe one built up until we all reach
unity in the faith. And thenI'll do the son of God and become
mature, attaining to the whole measureof the fullness of God. Then it
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says, then we will no longerbe infants, toss back and forth by
the waves and blown here and thereby every wind of teaching, and by
the cunning and craftiness of people intheir deceitful scheming. Instead speaking of truth
and love, we will grow tobecome in every respect the mature body of
Him who was ahead, that isChrist. From him, the whole body,
joined and held together by every supportingligament, grows and builds itself up
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in love as each part does itswork. Yes, and so it happens.
It is that once controversy, statesgets in the way, once Satan
gets in the way, once lifegets in the way, us as the
body of Christ, must know thatwe're all together in this together. So
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it is not right when the worldcomes at one of our own Christians,
man of God, woman of God, and we automatically tag on board.
You're part of the body, Soit's part of the body. Your job
is not to get a jump onboard. They're talking about TV Jake's now,
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they're talking about saying his dealers withcertain people are not are not righteous,
they're trying to they're talking about JoeOlstein and Christians are agreeing with the
world, the people of the flesh, people of the world. Are you
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coming against the leaders who are peopleof the word, no matter how you
look at it, no matter howyou size it up, because every week
we see people getting saved by theirsermons. So you can't get saved that
there's somebody who's who's not anointed.Obviously they're anointed, Okay, So when
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you're speaking out against them, you'respeaking out against the own body of Christ.
Even if they don't go to evenif you don't go to their church
as a leader, they are stillpart of the body of Christ. That
you are still a part of thebody of Christ. I don't care if
you're a Baptist. I don't careif you're Protestant. I don't care if
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you're what what some of the otheruh what's some of the other factions are
non denominational. I don't care ifyou're uh uh what's uh? Another one
with the P I said, Protestantand then is Episcopalian. So whatever you
are, if you believe that Jesusis Lord and Savior, and some comes
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out against a leader or another brotherand sister. You're supposed to close your
trap, not be like the world, because we're not supposed to be.
When we're supposed to come out fromunder all the things that were the world,
and we're people of the world,we're supposed to help each other,
encourage each other. If damn trouble, you're supposed to pray for them.
You're supposed to pray for those people. You're supposed to declare a decree great
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things, not agree with what theworld is saying and coming against them.
Okay, that's why it says inverse twelve, if you read eleven,
says for the moment, all disciplineseems painful rather than pleasant, but later
it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousnessto those who have been trained by it.
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So what does it say next lineverse twelve? Therefore, lift your
drooping hands and strengthen your weak knees, and make straight paths for your feet,
so that what his name may notbe put out of joint, but
rather be healed. What happened,chastise her, He loved in these chastise
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her, and she hushed. Shestopped right right. Okay, So,
if you're only looking at how hedid it, then you're not looking at
the fruit or what she stopped.If I may, I was just about
to interject, husband, your takeon this because a lot of the disagreement
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was about how it was done.I don't you know, some just didn't
agree that it should have been donein the way that it had been done.
So what is your take on that? Okay? Now we can all
talk about this in retrospect at itall right, because it doesn't know a
really happen, so we can allsay I would have done it like this,
and woo woo woo and so forthand so on. Uh So,
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first off, I'll say it howhow I would have done it? Uh?
The first thing is that when Iwhen when I'm set on something,
when the home spirit has gotten me, nothing distracts me. So so that
would not have even bothered me.Second, how I would have done it?
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Now that I can think about aretrospect that I have time, I
would have laid hands on them.I would I would have laid hands on
the right then and there. Okay. Uh. A third I would have
handled it. I would have sentmy uhl me help me to go and
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uh you know do what they gotto do with the woman, you know,
quiet her down, a show offthe stage, and so forth and
so on. Right, right,Okay, I would have done one of
those things. Now I can saidthat in a retrospect. Okay, but
I might have done just what pastorKeyon did. I might I might have
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just said, hey, hey,all right, come on, let's get
self right, right right, let'sgo The relations find says that we have
to have self control, so let'sgo to the spirit for self control.
Right, Okay, damn right,you know, but I've probably probably done
the same thing right then and there. Right, I've been in ministries before,
where we've been, I've been checkedlike that in front of and I
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even think there's a scripture about openrebuke. But sometimes it's it can be
like that, you know, itcan be like that, and you're saving
not just the person, but youmight be saving someone else, and you
know, and correcting openly. Sometimesthere's a time for open rebuke, and
then sometimes there is a time forsilent or is it the private review?
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But I think that takes discernment fromthe Holy Spirit as to what is needed
in that time and from if whatyou're saying is correct regarding this woman of
God, who was who's been doingthis or displaying this type of that would
have probably thrown somebody off in astrass. So maybe Pastor Keyon and he is
an elder, so we have totrust his discernment. Pick that up,
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and God probably using like yo,this needs this is a spirit that has
has been disrupting and needs to bechecked. So we need to make sure
that nobody else follows this pattern thisin this house, especially at that time,
right right, yes, Now,this is why we can say this
because we are pastors, right,Okay, so we know how it is
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from a leadership point of view.A lot of believers out there don't know
the leadership point of view. Theprotocols, the protocols that that that that
that are put in place for leaders. They're coming at you from the perspective
of leaders because we've been where youguys have been as regular congregants as well.
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You wanted to say something else,go ahead, go ahead, now,
I just you know what's beIN onmy heart. What's on my heart
is we just need to embrace correction. We just it's just the culture that
we live in. The Unfortunately,we don't like culture. Excuse we don't
like correction. We don't like discipline, even myself, you know, as
a leader, even when I haveto receive correction from my husband, who
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is the head of our he's aheadof me and he's ahead of our marriage.
So that brings a whole different dynamics. It's tough. But scripture says
that although it might be painful,there's a there's a fruit, and there's
a benefit to it once we stickit out. There's maturity. Like the
scripture that I said, we needto we need to be maturing, right,
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and that only comes from when we'reputting ourselves in positions to be corrected,
to be constantly corrected, realizing thatwe need the correction from someone somewhere
to continue growing and maturing. Andthat's why it says here for the moment,
now, this is the word sayingthis. Now. For the moment,
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all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant, but later it yields the peaceful
fruit of righteousness to those who havebeen trained in it. Okay, So
discipline is for training. Discipline helpsto train you to build you up,
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Okay, And because later on yousee what the training does for you.
Later on you see what the disciplinedoes for you. You see what fruit
comes out of it. There's somuch goodness that comes out of it,
sep it. But but we ashumans don't We don't comprehend the levels that
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God wants to take us to orin the ways that he does it.
No matter what, I don't carewho you are. When you're in your
flesh, whether it's God or somebodyis being led by God, tell you
to come out your flesh. Itis never pleasant. It is never pleasant
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for me to talk like this.Now. It is not pleasant to me
because I want to. I wantto kick down some doors and turn over
some rocks. I want to turnover some furniture because I'm really I'm really
upset at the body of Christ forspeaking out against the man of God.
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Uh. And don't even attend thechurch. And what do you what you're
what you're doing is is just showingthe body of Christ weak. Okay.
And I always use this as aand say as a comparison, if you
will, Okay, I look atthe rib which my wife is and the
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body which I am. My wifeis a part of my rib. My
wife is the part of my body. She is my rib. Okay,
No, matter how much the ribwants to go this way, if the
body is going that way, shegot to come. The rib got to
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come with me. Yep, therib got to come with me. If
the rib goes a separate place,guess what, the body is weak and
the body will be in pain.That's good, right, So we got
to go. We got we can't. We can have a swallow prior.
We got a swallow ego. Evenif the man a woman of God seems
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wrong on the surface, the bestway that you child of God can go
is to pray. Pray for yourman because when you whether you agree or
not. Look, I'm just gonnabe straight up out front. Me and
my wife had been in contention overthis. But some some some of some
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of the things that pastor passing MinisterKirk has done has been controversial. Uh,
Minister kurk Franklin, Franklin, youknow what the dancing, so,
I said, Minister Kirk Franklin ishere, Pastor, I don't know,
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Franklin. Some of the some ofthe dances that he does is kind of
kind of kind of kind of controversialquestion. Question. But but but as
he's a man of God, allright, we just pray for him,
We pray, we pray for him, we pray that God directs him the
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right way. See but but butwhen all these people are talking about him
or whatever the case, now,I'm gonna defend that brother because he's my
brother, and he's my brother inChrist, and not not just as a
pastor leader the church. He ismy brother in Christ. And we're not
supposed to be going along with howthe world goes and just going around talking
about our men and women of Godand our church leaders like that. We're
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supposed to be better than that.We're not supposed to be gossiping and so
office, so on going back,No amen, amen, go ahead,
go ahead, you know. So, So what I'm what I'm saying to
you, guys, is don't getcaught up in the hope a lot and
the sensationalism that the tmzs bring andthe social media outlets bring when they're talking
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about the man and woman of God. Okay, because unless you go to
the church and you're in their mostholiest of holiest inner circles, you don't
know. So what does it say? Be slow to speak, quick say
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here, quick to listen? Rightnow when I'm saying quick to listen to
all the facts that all the socialmedia networks bring out. No, listen
to God. Listen to God.And how do you listen to God?
You talk to him about the situation, and you pray to him about the
situation, and you keep your yaptruck, your yap shut unless you're defending
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the man or woman of God.And if you can't defend him, be
quiet because you wasn't there, youdon't know, or stop judging harshly till
all the facts are rendered and puton the table as you don't know.
Speaking of prayer, I just wantedto I'm being led to just just a
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prayer. So this was a soberingmessage this evening. And Father God,
in the name of Jesus, wejust first inform us we just repent,
Father, We repent if we hadbeen involved in any sort of conversations degrading
or deflaming the character or any manor woman of God, anybody in positions
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of authority in general, Lord,because we know that your word says you've
placed them there, no matter whomthey are. Father, So we just
repent right now, and we justasks you to help us Lord in this
area. The temptation to want agossip, Lord, to be pulled in
and sucked into a gossip. Father, that we be the light and the
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salt, Father, and be boldenough to not engage and to just pray,
Father, and to stand up forrighteousness. Lord, wherever we are,
Father and we're in these circles andhear of these things. Lord,
to stand for the word, standon what the word says, stand for
leadership, and to start to pray, Father, to be people of prayer
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and to trust prayer. Father,that prayer still works. Lord. And
now you know, listen, you'vebeen reaching leaders since biblical times. You
know how to get through to leadership. But I'm just asking Father that you
just help us, Father, toembrace correction. If we are a part
of any ministry, Father, thatwe would embrace the discipline, embrace your
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love as your chastisement as love.Lord. Yes, you do like to
woo us, but there's also aside of you that chastizes us, and
that's all part of your love aswell. So we're embracing and thanking you
for both both sides of your characterand the nature so we can be mature.
Lord. We just love you,and we just thank you for helping
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us to grow in the areas thatwe need to mature in. Father,
in the mighty name of Jesus,we thank you for this word. Father
and Lord. Any if anybody listeningto this Father, if it touched their
hearts and it resonated with them andthey're saying, you know what, I'm
not really sure how this works,but something in this message really touched my
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heart, and I want to knowthis. Jesus is God that loves me,
loves me, but also wants todiscipline me so I can be better
because I want to be better.And if that's what it takes us,
what it takes in Jesus' name,His name is Jesus Christ, and he
is here to save you. Andif you are desiring to receive him into
your heart right now repeat after myhusband, I want to say this,
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first, look a look and findno body looked oh over good? And
find nobody looked oh over good,and find nobody looked oh lover could and
fine. No, by Jesus soul, nobody looked a good fine nobody book
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you amen, that's Jesus, that'sJesus. You want Jesus in your life
right now? Repeat that to me, Heavenly Father, Heavenly Father, I'm
a sinner. I'm a sinner.No, I don't want to sin anymore,
and I don't want to sin anymore. I recognize, I recognize that
Christ, that Christ came into,came into this world, this world,
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and sacrifice his life, and sacrificehis life for my sins or my sin,
for my iniquities, my niquity,my infirmity, my guilt, my
guilt, and my shame and myshame. I wanted to come into my
life now. I want him tocome into my life now to shape me,
shape me, hold me, oldme, and mold me. Hold
me into what you got, intowhat you got, want me to be,
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want me to be. I repentof my sins. I repent of
my sins, which means, whichmeans I make I make one hundred and
eighty degree turned one hundred and eightydegree to do God, to do God,
what you want me to do,what you God want me to do.
Thank you God, Thank you God. Having Jesus for having Jesus into
my life, enter my life rightnow, right now, and christy with
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Jesus, Yes, with the messies, Jesus King, THEO King, of
Lord, of the Lord's Mighty impreciousname, Amen, Name Amen. A
man. If you just said thatprayer, you are a new creature Christ.
Old things have passed. Behold,all is a new Welcome to the
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Family of God. It's a newday, it's a new dawn. It's
a new season for you. Ifyou want to learn more about what just
happened to you, your salvation thatyou just received, please reach out to
us at UFL Ministries a nt Lat gmail dot com. You could also
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can shoot us a d M personallypastor Dwayne the pastor find nobody looking to
find nobody Jesus, nobody great,Yes, nobody greater than you. All
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right, until next time, Welove you and only God Jesus in the
Holy Spirit, love you more.Chatter Now that's right, u h true,
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Step off to the spot you down, No, man, I am
going to tell why. Let metell you why. When the stop God
and so God keep talking about?Will you stop God and me? He
said, will the stop God andme? God? You don't know what
I'm talking about. Let me tellyou. Will the stop God? And
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check this out God. God,let me bring it down to your God,
Jesus, sort of child
Let me tell you why when tostop God, God, to talk about
will step God, will step God, God, you don't know what I'm
talking about. Let me tell you, will step God, and me check
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this out God, God, letme bring it down to your God,
Jesus, God held the stop.Hello. Hello, I'm mister Devil Slayer
and I'm missus Devil Slayer and weare back in the house. And yeah,
I've been away for a long time. I know, I know my
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We just wanted to give a shoutout to all of you and all over
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business. I'm heavenly. Father.We just thank you, Lord, We
thank you, and we're just remindedhow awesome and grateful your majestys, your
greatnesses, your counselors, your graceis this evening, Father, and we
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just forget about everything else Lord thatmight be bothering us, bothered, just
to be in this present moment forsuch a time as this, Lord,
and we just thank you for yourspirit meeting us in our appointed need.
Lord, and let our hearts beopen to what you would have for us
to hear tonight's and let it bearmuch fruit in Jesus. And we pray
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Amen, Amen, Amen, Amen. So before we get started, just
want to let you know, guys, know that there have been forces that
have been coming against us to tryto stop us from from doing this episode.
Okay, So I mean this mustbe a very important episode that people
really need to hear because I believethat I believe it has a place.
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I really believe it has a place, and that it's very important. So
without further ado, let's go tothe scripture and let's break it down.
Beer. Can you read? Wasit Hebrews twelve verse four through eleven place?
So we're going to be coming fromHebrews twelve four through eleven. I
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am reading out of the Amplified Bible. It says you have not yet struggled
to the point of shedding blood inyour striving against sin, and you have
forgotten the divine word of encouragement,which is addressed to you as sons,
my son do not make light ofthe discipline of the Lord, and do
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not lose heart and give up whenyou are corrected by him. For the
Lord disciplines and corrects those whom heloves, and he punishes every son whom
he receives and welcomes. Verse seven. You must submit to correction for the
purpose of discipline. God is dealingwith you as with sons. For what
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son is there whom his father doesnot discipline. Now if you are exempt
from correction and without discipline in whichall of God's children share, then you
are illegitimate children and not sons atall. Verse nine. Moreover, we
have had earthly fathers who disciplined us, and we submitted and respected them for
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training us. Shall we not muchmore willingly submit to the Father of spirits
and live by learning from his discipline. For our earthly fathers disciplined us for
only a short time, as seemedbest to them. But He disciplines us
for our good, so that wemay share his holiness Verse eleven. For
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the time being, no discipline bringsjoy, but seems sad and painful,
yes to those who have been trainedby it. Afterwards, it yields the
peace full fruit of righteousness, rightstanding with God, and a lifestyle and
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attitude that seeks conformity to God's willand purpose. Yeah. See, that's
that's that's very important. I wantto I want to talk. I want
to talk to y'all. I wantto talk about one of the biggest things
that's coming on in Internet lately andor social media and and even on the
news about uh Patsa Keon. Iwanna I wanna talk on it. I
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wanna touch on that, Okay,because so much I wanna say about the
Man of God uh, or theor the situation at hand. Okay.
Uh. First off, I respectPastor key On, I respect to his
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church, and the man is definitelyanointed. Okay. And I'm not here
to gossip. I'm not here thegossip. I'm not here to uh uh
I'm not I'm not here to tojudge anybody. What I'm here is to
set the order in place, toto t to inform what is the correct
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order? Uh, Because there arepeople that have been saying that, Well,
okay, well let's talk about thesituation first. Okay. Uh.
There was a Pastor Keyon uh ofa singing and he had his Uh.
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Well, if I managed it was. It was it was a worship slash
church service, but it was amoment. It was a moment when they
had the choir and the praise temon the ussuring the presence of just to
set the scene for you, all, assuring in the presence of God.
And so Pastor Keon was obviously onstage, you know, just trying to
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tap into the spirit of the Lord, you know, maybe to get a
prophetic word or what have you forthe people. So that's the that's the
scene, right, But he wasactually singing, yes, and he was
in the middle of pristhetic prophetic songand so forth, moving in the gifts
of the spirit. Right, yes, that that right, that's so true.
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And one of the choir members startedpanting and crying and and just just
again there was I guess a videothat went viral and it only showed a
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snippet during this worship experience of thiswoman of God who was more like shrieking,
right, yeah, yeah, itwas like shrieking, and it sort
of caused a disruption, to saythe least, within the service and within
the ministry in that moment, inthat moment, right, right, So
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at that particular time passed a keyOn stopped singing and went over to the
lady and told her to hush.He said he's not the fingers and told
her to hush. She said herstop her speaking to I guess maybe the
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helps Ministry of writers stop her.And then he also said silence. This
is very important. But he didn'tsay it in a nasty ring, you
know. It was very calm andvery controlled. But he took his authority.
Yeah right, yeah, yeah,yeah, yep. And then immediately
the woman what she stopped, Shestopped immediately. And then as passed it
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passed, Keyan began to then uh, he made he made a comment and
again he made a statement about whyhe did what he did, right,
okay, and so in saying thatthis thing, this video went viral and
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everybody had mixed reviews on it,and a lot of the mixed reviews came
from fellow brothers and sisters in Christ, and all of a sudden, it's
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kind of interesting that a lot ofthe brothers and Sisters in Christ came out
against what he did. It wasn'tin his favor. While did agree with
what he did. In fact,most of his congregants at the time agreed
with what he did, but thosethat don't go to the church disagreed,
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and so there were a lot ofindividuals saying that pase Keyon as a narcissist,
that he's controlling, that he's overbearing, and a lot of it came
from individuals who were of the church. Then said that that's the reason why
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they left church, of why theyjoined different churches because they went through the
same experiences at their churches and thenthey moved to other churches. And other
people said that that's why they're notcoming to Christ because of these type of
things that go on in the church. Okay, and so I the reason
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why I'm pausing so much is becausethere's so many different topics that I want
to discuss, but I just wantedto The reason why I wanted to use
that scripture is because people are saying, well, passing didn't show love to
to that individual. So to setthe record even more straight for people who
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don't know, this is not thefirst time that this individual has done something
like this. In fact, she'sdone this several times in a four year
period, where us just have beenused to try to calm her down.
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She h where different types of leadershiptried to deal with her that this was
an ongoing process. Now, thereason why I'm talking about this on the
radio is because I'm it's not rightthat we're uh, we're hearing so many
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different takes on what's right, andpeople putting out posts and so forth and
so on. And these are Christians, mind, you do we we should
all be on one core. Butwhat we're supposed to be doing as Christians.
But we'll get into that. Butas it said, as it says
in scripture, for the Lord disciplesdisciplines the one that he loves, okay,
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and chastise is every son whom hereceives. And when you need son
to mean son and daughter, okay, So how does the Lord chastise?
How does the Lord discipline with loveand correction, right as a father disciplo
mother disciplines their children right, justthe same way. You can't you cannot
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separate the two, right exactly.But the key point that you said there,
he does it just like the fatherdisciplines their child, just like how
a mother disciplines their child. Right. So how God chastises individuals is can
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be one way through people, okay. And and so with that being said,
this one, This, this womanwho obviously needs deliverance. She got
chastised by Pastor Kion who believed thathe was being led in spirit to do
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that. So here it is not. So here's the deal. And I'm
trying to I don't want to.I don't want to blow up on anybody.
Okay, But unless you're in apastoral position, how can you tell
what a pastor is supposed to do? Who are you to say what a
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pastor is supposed to do? Youthe non believer who don't even believe?
How are you going to try totell a pastor how he supposed to run
his congregation? How are you acongregant supposed to tell how a pastor is
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supposed to operate? Are you apastor? How have you been trained up
as a pastor? So, howis the sheep going to tell the shepherd
how he's supposed to run his church? How is the sheep that's not even
in his church supposed to tell thatshepherd how to run his how to run
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his sheep? Who are you?You are in no position to try to
say, or do or tell apastor how he should run he or she
should run their church. You areno physician whatsoever. Okay, the man
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of God or the woman of Godthat's in charge of that church, if
they believe that they're being led bya Holy Spirit to operate in a certain
way, you have no say soin the matter. All your job is
to do, especially from a fifteento twenty minute video clip, is to
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pray. That's it. So,as far as I'm concerned, since there
was a four year soldier and withthis woman to try to get her to
stop past the kayan simply was usedby the Lord to discipline her and to
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show her love. That's it.That's it. So the fact that we
don't attend that church, are youdon't attend that church? That you can't
just judge. I mean, youcan judge from a fifteen to twenty minute
clip, but you really wasn't there. So what right do you have to
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judge so harshly if you wasn't there. You don't know the history. You
do not know the history. Didyou want to say someday I'll wait go
ahead, No, no, goon, go on? No, there's
so many, so many directions thatthis come for safe. We're so slow
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at the beginning, yeah, togo and we only have a limited amount
of time, unlett the Lord seesfit to stretch us out. But here's
the thing I think, because welive in a society that really lacks the
reverence of authority anyway, and it'svery common whenever authority is to be asserted,
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it's like counterculture, like you know, and so that person whoever has
to do it is looked at asthe bad guy unfortunately. And I think
we forget the position of authority thatpeople in leadership carry, such as pastors,
such as police officers, such asparents such as mothers, such as
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fathers, and as soon as theyeven husbands, he or she puts their
foot down in a way that theperson that might be under subjection or under
them and has to use their authorityis like the whole world stops. And
I think that's become an issue andall of a sudden that person is no
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longer loving because they had to disciplinethem. But how if we go back
to the analogy that was given inthe verse that I just read we just
read and shared, you have tothink about the way a child is disciplined
and are you really loving your child? You're not gonna loving your child?
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Isn't always mean giving them what theywant all the time, whatever feels good.
That's not good parenting. That's irresponsibleparenting. It's not always going to
feel good. Do you always giveinto what they want, what they want?
To know, you don't, andI hope you don't some parents do.
You know. Everybody has their ideaof how to parent. But biblically
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speaking, it does require discipline whenyou are a babe. When you are
a babe in Christ, we've allbeen babes, we all still need discipline
at some point and another. Itdoesn't even matter even when you become a
tour you still should be receiving correctionin some sort of fashion. But it
all boils down to this area ofauthority in our society in general. All
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the way down from the youth allthe way up, there's been a challenge
of a authority that and and that'sthat's that's that's what I was trying to
say. I was trying to saythat the past pastor Kon is the man
of God. He's the one thatruns to church, he's the one in
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authority. If he is the onein authority, at some point in time,
he needs to assert his authority.Right. So that's a part of
the job. That's part exactly.So that means at any given point in
time that he might have to checksomebody. Uh, and it's in the
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public eye, he's gonna look likethe bad guy, which which which?
Which belief is me? Because menand women of God, we're supposed to
be understanding of that. Yeah,you're right, I guess what it says.
That's what it says. It sayshere in verse eleven, for the
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moment, I'm reading from the ESVversion, it says, for the moment,
all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant. So the world is telling you
that when you have to be disciplined, it's your flesh. It's not like,
yeah, your soul is soul.It's not gonna like it. But
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it doesn't mean that it's not necessary. Right, it's necessary, and that
it's not needed and that that persondoes not love you. You cannot say
that you as a mom who hasto and a lot of times well sorry,
I'm getting ahead of myself, butyou cannot say that a mom likes
a lot of times to discipline orhave to throw down the hatchet when it's
needed to their child. Some parentsthat i've spoken to. They don't like
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that, but it's necessary. It'ssomething that comes with the territory of being
a parent, because only it's aposition. It's a position as a mom
or a father. It is aposition, a role of authority. You
are over that child. And that'swhy that's why everybody is not a pastor
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andrusted. That's why everybody is trustingyou with that child. Exactly. That's
why everybody is not a pastor becausewith those who aren't a pastor don't know
what it's like to walk in apastor's shoes or what a pastor has to
do. So it's easy to bein a conftent and to criticize the pastor
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if I'm mad atget in the samemanner I lost my train of thought.
Giving back to me, Holy Spirit, please. As a pastor has to
also correct the sheep and discipline thesheep. Sheep can go astray. Got
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to bring them back, you gottaAnd I'm gonna read this scripture. But
like I said, I'm using amother and a father. The parents.
They have to be accountable to theLord, just as much as a pastor
is accountable to Lord about there whothat they've been entrusted with. Pastor has
congregants that they're entrusted with, thatthey are accountable to their soul. So
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it's a very it's a serious position. You can have fun, but it's
still serious. You know, PastorKian is accountable to God. I wanted
to go back as well, becauseagain I think we forget that there is
a purpose for leadership in the Bodyof Christ. And I think I was
reading a post or something, butI want to go back on why God
had placed places leadership in the Bodyof Christ. And I'll give the floor
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back to you. Ephesians four andeleven. I'm just going jumping down.
You know when when Jesus ascended,he says eleven, So Christ himself gave
to the body. He gave gifts. These are gifts the people were actually
given as gifts. There are giftsto the body, apostles, prophets,
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evangelists, pastors, teachers. That'sactually one gift. But it says the
reason why he did this was toequip his people for works of service,
so that the Body of Christ maybe one built up until we all reach
unity in the faith. And thenI'll do the son of God and become
mature, attaining to the whole measureof the fullness of God. Then it
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says, then we will no longerbe infants, toss back and forth by
the waves and blown here and thereby every wind of teaching, and by
the cunning and craftiness of people intheir deceitful scheming. Instead speaking of truth
and love, we will grow tobecome in every respect the mature body of
Him who was ahead, that isChrist. From him, the whole body,
joined and held together by every supportingligament, grows and builds itself up
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in love as each part does itswork. Yes, and so it happens.
It is that once controversy, statesgets in the way, once Satan
gets in the way, once lifegets in the way, us as the
body of Christ, must know thatwe're all together in this together. So
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it is not right when the worldcomes at one of our own Christians,
man of God, woman of God, and we automatically tag on board.
You're part of the body, Soit's part of the body. Your job
is not to get a jump onboard. They're talking about TV Jake's now,
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they're talking about saying his dealers withcertain people are not are not righteous,
they're trying to they're talking about JoeOlstein and Christians are agreeing with the
world, the people of the flesh, people of the world. Are you
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coming against the leaders who are peopleof the word, no matter how you
look at it, no matter howyou size it up, because every week
we see people getting saved by theirsermons. So you can't get saved that
there's somebody who's who's not anointed.Obviously they're anointed, Okay, So when
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you're speaking out against them, you'respeaking out against the own body of Christ.
Even if they don't go to evenif you don't go to their church
as a leader, they are stillpart of the body of Christ. That
you are still a part of thebody of Christ. I don't care if
you're a Baptist. I don't careif you're Protestant. I don't care if
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you're what what some of the otheruh what's some of the other factions are
non denominational. I don't care ifyou're uh uh what's uh? Another one
with the P I said, Protestantand then is Episcopalian. So whatever you
are, if you believe that Jesusis Lord and Savior, and some comes
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out against a leader or another brotherand sister. You're supposed to close your
trap, not be like the world, because we're not supposed to be.
When we're supposed to come out fromunder all the things that were the world,
and we're people of the world,we're supposed to help each other,
encourage each other. If damn trouble, you're supposed to pray for them.
You're supposed to pray for those people. You're supposed to declare a decree great
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things, not agree with what theworld is saying and coming against them.
Okay, that's why it says inverse twelve, if you read eleven,
says for the moment, all disciplineseems painful rather than pleasant, but later
it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousnessto those who have been trained by it.
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So what does it say next lineverse twelve? Therefore, lift your
drooping hands and strengthen your weak knees, and make straight paths for your feet,
so that what his name may notbe put out of joint, but
rather be healed. What happened,chastise her, He loved in these chastise
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her, and she hushed. Shestopped right right. Okay, So,
if you're only looking at how hedid it, then you're not looking at
the fruit or what she stopped.If I may, I was just about
to interject, husband, your takeon this because a lot of the disagreement
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was about how it was done.I don't you know, some just didn't
agree that it should have been donein the way that it had been done.
So what is your take on that? Okay? Now we can all
talk about this in retrospect at itall right, because it doesn't know a
really happen, so we can allsay I would have done it like this,
and woo woo woo and so forthand so on. Uh So,
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first off, I'll say it howhow I would have done it? Uh?
The first thing is that when Iwhen when I'm set on something,
when the home spirit has gotten me, nothing distracts me. So so that
would not have even bothered me.Second, how I would have done it?
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Now that I can think about aretrospect that I have time, I
would have laid hands on them.I would I would have laid hands on
the right then and there. Okay. Uh. A third I would have
handled it. I would have sentmy uhl me help me to go and
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uh you know do what they gotto do with the woman, you know,
quiet her down, a show offthe stage, and so forth and
so on. Right, right,Okay, I would have done one of
those things. Now I can saidthat in a retrospect. Okay, but
I might have done just what pastorKeyon did. I might I might have
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just said, hey, hey,all right, come on, let's get
self right, right right, let'sgo The relations find says that we have
to have self control, so let'sgo to the spirit for self control.
Right, Okay, damn right,you know, but I've probably probably done
the same thing right then and there. Right, I've been in ministries before,
where we've been, I've been checkedlike that in front of and I
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even think there's a scripture about openrebuke. But sometimes it's it can be
like that, you know, itcan be like that, and you're saving
not just the person, but youmight be saving someone else, and you
know, and correcting openly. Sometimesthere's a time for open rebuke, and
then sometimes there is a time forsilent or is it the private review?
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But I think that takes discernment fromthe Holy Spirit as to what is needed
in that time and from if whatyou're saying is correct regarding this woman of
God, who was who's been doingthis or displaying this type of that would
have probably thrown somebody off in astrass. So maybe Pastor Keyon and he is
an elder, so we have totrust his discernment. Pick that up,
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and God probably using like yo,this needs this is a spirit that has
has been disrupting and needs to bechecked. So we need to make sure
that nobody else follows this pattern thisin this house, especially at that time,
right right, yes, Now,this is why we can say this
because we are pastors, right,Okay, so we know how it is
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from a leadership point of view.A lot of believers out there don't know
the leadership point of view. Theprotocols, the protocols that that that that
that are put in place for leaders. They're coming at you from the perspective
of leaders because we've been where youguys have been as regular congregants as well.
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You wanted to say something else,go ahead, go ahead, now,
I just you know what's beIN onmy heart. What's on my heart
is we just need to embrace correction. We just it's just the culture that
we live in. The Unfortunately,we don't like culture. Excuse we don't
like correction. We don't like discipline, even myself, you know, as
a leader, even when I haveto receive correction from my husband, who
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is the head of our he's aheadof me and he's ahead of our marriage.
So that brings a whole different dynamics. It's tough. But scripture says
that although it might be painful,there's a there's a fruit, and there's
a benefit to it once we stickit out. There's maturity. Like the
scripture that I said, we needto we need to be maturing, right,
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and that only comes from when we'reputting ourselves in positions to be corrected,
to be constantly corrected, realizing thatwe need the correction from someone somewhere
to continue growing and maturing. Andthat's why it says here for the moment,
now, this is the word sayingthis. Now. For the moment,
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all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant, but later it yields the peaceful
fruit of righteousness to those who havebeen trained in it. Okay, So
discipline is for training. Discipline helpsto train you to build you up,
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Okay, And because later on yousee what the training does for you.
Later on you see what the disciplinedoes for you. You see what fruit
comes out of it. There's somuch goodness that comes out of it,
sep it. But but we ashumans don't We don't comprehend the levels that
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God wants to take us to orin the ways that he does it.
No matter what, I don't carewho you are. When you're in your
flesh, whether it's God or somebodyis being led by God, tell you
to come out your flesh. Itis never pleasant. It is never pleasant
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for me to talk like this.Now. It is not pleasant to me
because I want to. I wantto kick down some doors and turn over
some rocks. I want to turnover some furniture because I'm really I'm really
upset at the body of Christ forspeaking out against the man of God.
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Uh. And don't even attend thechurch. And what do you what you're
what you're doing is is just showingthe body of Christ weak. Okay.
And I always use this as aand say as a comparison, if you
will, Okay, I look atthe rib which my wife is and the
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body which I am. My wifeis a part of my rib. My
wife is the part of my body. She is my rib. Okay,
No, matter how much the ribwants to go this way, if the
body is going that way, shegot to come. The rib got to
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come with me. Yep, therib got to come with me. If
the rib goes a separate place,guess what, the body is weak and
the body will be in pain.That's good, right, So we got
to go. We got we can't. We can have a swallow prior.
We got a swallow ego. Evenif the man a woman of God seems
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wrong on the surface, the bestway that you child of God can go
is to pray. Pray for yourman because when you whether you agree or
not. Look, I'm just gonnabe straight up out front. Me and
my wife had been in contention overthis. But some some some of some
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of the things that pastor passing MinisterKirk has done has been controversial. Uh,
Minister kurk Franklin, Franklin, youknow what the dancing, so,
I said, Minister Kirk Franklin ishere, Pastor, I don't know,
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Franklin. Some of the some ofthe dances that he does is kind of
kind of kind of kind of controversialquestion. Question. But but but as
he's a man of God, allright, we just pray for him,
We pray, we pray for him, we pray that God directs him the
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right way. See but but butwhen all these people are talking about him
or whatever the case, now,I'm gonna defend that brother because he's my
brother, and he's my brother inChrist, and not not just as a
pastor leader the church. He ismy brother in Christ. And we're not
supposed to be going along with howthe world goes and just going around talking
about our men and women of Godand our church leaders like that. We're
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supposed to be better than that.We're not supposed to be gossiping and so
office, so on going back,No amen, amen, go ahead,
go ahead, you know. So, So what I'm what I'm saying to
you, guys, is don't getcaught up in the hope a lot and
the sensationalism that the tmzs bring andthe social media outlets bring when they're talking
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about the man and woman of God. Okay, because unless you go to
the church and you're in their mostholiest of holiest inner circles, you don't
know. So what does it say? Be slow to speak, quick say
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here, quick to listen? Rightnow when I'm saying quick to listen to
all the facts that all the socialmedia networks bring out. No, listen
to God. Listen to God.And how do you listen to God?
You talk to him about the situation, and you pray to him about the
situation, and you keep your yaptruck, your yap shut unless you're defending
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the man or woman of God.And if you can't defend him, be
quiet because you wasn't there, youdon't know, or stop judging harshly till
all the facts are rendered and puton the table as you don't know.
Speaking of prayer, I just wantedto I'm being led to just just a
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prayer. So this was a soberingmessage this evening. And Father God,
in the name of Jesus, wejust first inform us we just repent,
Father, We repent if we hadbeen involved in any sort of conversations degrading
or deflaming the character or any manor woman of God, anybody in positions
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of authority in general, Lord,because we know that your word says you've
placed them there, no matter whomthey are. Father, So we just
repent right now, and we justasks you to help us Lord in this
area. The temptation to want agossip, Lord, to be pulled in
and sucked into a gossip. Father, that we be the light and the
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salt, Father, and be boldenough to not engage and to just pray,
Father, and to stand up forrighteousness. Lord, wherever we are,
Father and we're in these circles andhear of these things. Lord,
to stand for the word, standon what the word says, stand for
leadership, and to start to pray, Father, to be people of prayer
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and to trust prayer. Father,that prayer still works. Lord. And
now you know, listen, you'vebeen reaching leaders since biblical times. You
know how to get through to leadership. But I'm just asking Father that you
just help us, Father, toembrace correction. If we are a part
of any ministry, Father, thatwe would embrace the discipline, embrace your
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love as your chastisement as love.Lord. Yes, you do like to
woo us, but there's also aside of you that chastizes us, and
that's all part of your love aswell. So we're embracing and thanking you
for both both sides of your characterand the nature so we can be mature.
Lord. We just love you,and we just thank you for helping
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us to grow in the areas thatwe need to mature in. Father,
in the mighty name of Jesus,we thank you for this word. Father
and Lord. Any if anybody listeningto this Father, if it touched their
hearts and it resonated with them andthey're saying, you know what, I'm
not really sure how this works,but something in this message really touched my
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heart, and I want to knowthis. Jesus is God that loves me,
loves me, but also wants todiscipline me so I can be better
because I want to be better.And if that's what it takes us,
what it takes in Jesus' name,His name is Jesus Christ, and he
is here to save you. Andif you are desiring to receive him into
your heart right now repeat after myhusband, I want to say this,
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first, look a look and findno body looked oh over good? And
find nobody looked oh over good,and find nobody looked oh lover could and
fine. No, by Jesus soul, nobody looked a good fine nobody book
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you amen, that's Jesus, that'sJesus. You want Jesus in your life
right now? Repeat that to me, Heavenly Father, Heavenly Father, I'm
a sinner. I'm a sinner.No, I don't want to sin anymore,
and I don't want to sin anymore. I recognize, I recognize that
Christ, that Christ came into,came into this world, this world,
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and sacrifice his life, and sacrificehis life for my sins or my sin,
for my iniquities, my niquity,my infirmity, my guilt, my
guilt, and my shame and myshame. I wanted to come into my
life now. I want him tocome into my life now to shape me,
shape me, hold me, oldme, and mold me. Hold
me into what you got, intowhat you got, want me to be,
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want me to be. I repentof my sins. I repent of
my sins, which means, whichmeans I make I make one hundred and
eighty degree turned one hundred and eightydegree to do God, to do God,
what you want me to do,what you God want me to do.
Thank you God, Thank you God. Having Jesus for having Jesus into
my life, enter my life rightnow, right now, and christy with
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Jesus, Yes, with the messies, Jesus King, THEO King, of
Lord, of the Lord's Mighty impreciousname, Amen, Name Amen. A
man. If you just said thatprayer, you are a new creature Christ.
Old things have passed. Behold,all is a new Welcome to the
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Family of God. It's a newday, it's a new dawn. It's
a new season for you. Ifyou want to learn more about what just
happened to you, your salvation thatyou just received, please reach out to
us at UFL Ministries a nt Lat gmail dot com. You could also
reach out to us at the LoveChapters pod on the Gram, or you
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can shoot us a d M personallypastor Dwayne the pastor find nobody looking to
find nobody Jesus, nobody great,Yes, nobody greater than you. All
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right, until next time, Welove you and only God Jesus in the
Holy Spirit, love you more.Chatter Now that's right, u h true,
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Step off to the spot you down, No, man, I am
going to tell why. Let metell you why. When the stop God
and so God keep talking about?Will you stop God and me? He
said, will the stop God andme? God? You don't know what
I'm talking about. Let me tellyou. Will the stop God? And
(46:29):
check this out God. God,let me bring it down to your God,
Jesus, sort of child
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