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Brian and Broski sit down with Sign Guy Dudley to talk a little figures and answer your questions!
Brian and Broski sit down with Sign Guy Dudley to talk a little figures and answer your questions!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well return after these messengers.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
YEAHS Podcast showing.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
March alrighty, welcome back to Major Marx dot com exclusive
interview bonus podcast. We're here with E. C W original
good friend of the show, sign Guy Dudley, LOUI E
dangerously LOUD'ANGELI correct?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I say got them all?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Oh you got him.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
He's got a new nickname always ready because we just
aske him five minutes ago.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
He was ready to go. Oh my gimmick, I'll get
over huge with that.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
I'm not like Raven where it's like Johnny Polo, Raven, Scottie,
Flamingo Scott.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
And you ever just sitting on the toilet ball look
up Gallows with many how many names he's had.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
It's it's pretty nuts. And you've if you go through.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
It, that's actually really true.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, very very good point, Louke.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Pleasure to having on the show. Also, pleasure to have
you here at Impact. I mean you're out of the
wrestling business for fifteen years, like eleven or twelve? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
What and what? What what did this to you? What
made you?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
You know what? Man?
Speaker 5 (01:20):
It was this kind of like you know, I was
at I was at CIRCUSLA for eleven years in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Had a great run there.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
It was awesome, but you know, we relaunched the brand
and things like that, and it's kind of like passion
was going away to be frank and for me having
a great nine years there, in the last two years
kind of being like, eh, it was you know, it
was a disservice to them.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
To me, I wasn't feeling it.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
So when time came to go, I left and I
took some time off, and unbeknownst to h everyone, I
got reached out to on LinkedIn by Dan our Production,
a man of everything, saying, hey, my name is Dan.
I worked for a company called Anthem Anthem and.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I just completely assumed Dreamer, like oh no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I thought it is crazy. What Dan rey all.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
He's a great guy for real, And he's like, I
have the email. I work for Anthem. We're having trouble
with uh with some sales thing for this company called
Impact Wrestling. I'm like, is this a rib Like I
was like huh, So I said, sure, like I'll talk,
that's fine. So he calls me up and we're chatting.
I was like, hey, do you know, like I know
(02:29):
Scott and knowing everybody there for like twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
He's like, what Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
It was literally say this is why we have you
on Major Mark.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Dude, today's years old.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I just completely assumed that Dreamer just fucking scouted you
and you know, said, hey, there's a spot.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I know you know you'vent circing is really crazy.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
So it was it was basically like a recruiting cold call,
and then we start chatting. I came on as a
consultant for the first like for like five months. The
initial discussion was also like, hey, if it go as well,
we'd like to maybe talk a full time job stuff
like that.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
So I ended up what happened and like it was
junior July.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
We start having those conversations, and by September I was
in You.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Started last April and Poughkeepsie, right, was that Philly the week? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Philly? Yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
And then look, it was really strange in Philly, to
be honest, and I've shared this with a bunch of people.
It was like stepping back into the wrestling world and
then also not being familiar with a lot like a.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Lot I didn't know many of the guys, like anyone's name, hey.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Man, Hamburger, Wendy Berger. I didn't know.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
I didn't know a lot of the guys. I mean,
I knew like faces and names, piece it all together.
So it's a little apprehensive.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
To be honest. Yeah, it was like it was a
little strange.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
And then in Poughkeepsie, you kind of that's where it
starts sinking in, Like, Yeah, first of all, this company
works their asses off. The locker room is cool. It's
everything I've heard, because you know, sometimes you hear that
ship like yeah, oh this locker room is great, and
you're going suck. It's just like okay, you know. But
that's that's kind of what brought me back in. And
I see impact as like there's just so much we
can do, so much we are doing that we haven't
(04:09):
been able to do before and whatnot. But it's not
on what not what not, but impact is on whatnot,
by the ways. So it was a combination of opportunity
and just I always had a passion for wrestling, and
I always knew I would get back.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Into the business. It was always a goal of mine.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
That I have two daughters and they were a lot older,
so they're thirteen and seventeen now. Because of the travel
and everything, so that is cool.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Timing wise, you got to be home for a lot
of their like, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, that really is.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Super important to me because I always thought about it.
If I go back to wrestling, it's going to be
what it is as far as travel goes. But I
also have the you know, massive, a massive what's incentive
because I work out of my house, so I see
my kids like NonStop, and so it all bounces out.
That's really long answer, but it was always something I
wanted to do. When this opportunity came up, and it
took me a minute to kind of get it. You know,
(05:00):
business has changed since I've been around, but totally love
it now.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
So that's now, let's talk about your earliest.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
You're like, that's great in ew. No, well, and we'll
get to that too, But I want to talk about
you as a kid growing up, Like, what were the
things you were into, the toys you were liked, first
impressions of wrestling, things like that.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Yeah, so when my first toys were Star Wars nineteen
seventy seven.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I have the whole set. Now. Obviously I was too young.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
I grew up.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
I was born in eighty five, and I didn't recognize
or realize what Star Wars was until like the re
releases in the nineties. Yeah, Like now I'm like, well,
I need to have those original ones because you know,
even we just want to do a toy store today, and
just looking at the whole set there, the old like
the Millennium Falcon or the main Ewalk village. It it's
so much cool stuff and I could understand how a
(05:46):
kid from that time, we're just like their lives were
taken over by this.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I was mind blown. I was, you know, five or
six years old.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
I remember Star Wars like was blowing up and the
toys were all sold out and it's not.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Like it is now where you can go. Yeah, I
guess that's something of them. But they weren't like just
all over the shelves. It was like a rat race
kind of thing.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
It was a right but they had an end cap
setup that I have a picture of that's just nuts,
like from when they originally were sold in toy stores,
like the original setups. But I remember my mom coming
home one day from Kitty City, which.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Was yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Which was the toy store by my house, was just
a big bag of every figure except for the Jahua
because the Jahua was really hard to find initially, and
I remember for Christmas, my cousin got me the jah
Wa and dude, I ripped those things open. I played
every scene you can imagine from from Star Wars and
the guns and and then so like when Empire Strikes
(06:38):
Back came back, I was.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Huge in the like Hoth and all those place sets.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
That's what that was.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
That was there today, the toy store, all the cool
hot place sets.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Love.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
They didn't recreate that stuff for the power of the
force when we were kids.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
You know, not the hot, not the yeah, well not eventually, no,
is it I was just thinking, as you're going to
do that, isn't it crazy that, like all the things
have happened in your life that you're probably crazy epic
stuff that you forgot, But these like impressions that toys
made on you when you were a kid just stick.
That's like something about our show that I think, like
if you were a collector and you get it, you
get it. And it's hard to explain to someone who doesn't.
(07:10):
But if you know, you know, and there's like no
need for the explanation because it's so totally deeply sentimental
and impressionable. Because like these vivid details, that's crazy. I
remember something five or six years years old.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
It was it was like it was yesterday, bag toys
and you go from there. And then for like when
I got into wrestling, and I got into wrestling through
my my grandfather and when so I would go so
my mom worked, so a lot of times he would like,
babysit me, watch me whatever, and we would watch wrestling.
And I remember watching I think it was NWA. They
(07:45):
put a big red X across the screen. Did you
ever see those back in the day, So when guys
would get like color, they would red exit.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
On the Oh wow, okay, yeah, I didn't know that.
It is like and you grew up in the Philly area,
so I had all the TV, so I think it
was NWA. I don't think it was WWP time, but
that red X caught me. I was like, why is
there a red X on the screen? And then all
of a sudden you were like, what's behind the red X?
And then that's how wrestling kind of started for me.
And there was an angle I saw with like the Barbarian,
Jimmy Valliant, the Warlord and Pistol Pez Wattley and they
(08:14):
just and Paul Jones. They killed pistol Pez Wattley and
all this.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Like just beating him up and there's like blood everywhere,
and I was like, this is awesome, and that was
kind of my entry point. And then I start watching WWF.
I was always watching NWA, HULLL Cogan and everything like
that for a show at the Spectrum was in nineteen
eighty six. It's funny because Tommy and I were just
talking about it was what was your first show? And
I still remember the whole lineup. He's like, that's a
hell of a show, and I was like, looking back
(08:38):
on it, you're like, dude, that it.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Was actually when if you could find like the program
or something to that.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
I found the prison broadcast like because I remember back well,
you guys don't.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Maybe don't know, yeah, but I'm aware.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Yeah yeah, Like so day would air in Philadelphia and
New York and Boston.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
The house show is the next day. Yea, So that
was awesome.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
I always wanted to go, but if I couldn't go,
I could always watch it. So now you can watch
it again. So I pretty watched that show again. I
wish I could see eleven. I went to and I
was a kid, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
I mean the best part of those for me was
like you buy the program and had like the match
lineups and those are st like iconic.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Oh my god, my mom, you know, rest rest in peace.
But she threw those out. Oh man, And I tell
you man, I had. That was my thing.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
All I wanted was the lineup card because they were
the coolest things like ever. And I have once from
like later years, but I don't have like eighty six,
eighty seven, eighty eight when it was on the NWA
used to like type it on like a white piece
of paper, like it was not like even the lines, No,
it was just literally like a white sheet.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
But it was really cool. Did this wrestling Fantom of
your LJ and guy did that to turn into that? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:40):
So pretty fast, Like so we're just getting w magazine.
I still have like the first issue He'll Billy Jim
on the cover and all that. I think he was
the first cover.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
And inside were the figures and I was like, I
need like all these like right away, and the same
same kind of thing.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
I was going to Kitty City and they had they
had a lot of like schnook.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, like people have these stories that. Yeah, yeah, they're
peg warmers, right. It was tough to get it was
characters for me. It was tough to get the iron cheek. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
I could get stud I could get Andre Hogan was
definitely around, Schnooking wasn't around, but the iron cheek was
really hard to find. And again my mom picked me up.
I can't one day hands me a bag. There's the
chic and you're just like yes with the boots. And
I still have all these. I mean, they've all been
played with.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
They they don't age well if they've if they've been loved,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, yeah, but do.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
You guys like mind have like blood on them? Because
I used to put markers on them a color.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
I would pick the Crayola, like the Craola marker and
if you squeeze it on, it would like drip blood down.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
But it was washable marker.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
You never did that. Brian is something where he would
bite them.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
He's like his childhood bite mark I was like a
baby when these came out, you know, so like I
still have all my childhood ones. Like Jim Kninhard's fingers
are off because his fingers, you know, you can actually
bite you on each fing because it was.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Like a baby get to destroy.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Yes, it was yeah, seriously right, yeah, so mine not
And then if I didn't have a red marker that day,
they were bleeding green.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
It was just you know, you know what. I really
like those. So those figures are awesome. With the A W.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
A Remcos oh your Remco guy all time favorite wow
because they could move and yeah, of course in the
ring the A W.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
A ring was just so ridiculous. But yeah, so, and
they have colors and I still have all those who
did you have of those? I had? The first first
guys I brought were road Warriors in the one pack
and the other pack was it was Rick Martel and Backwinkle.
I believe it's something with.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Claire and Martel.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Oh yeah, it was Flair Martel.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
And then I had those two guys. I had Stephen Original,
Steve Regal, Yeah, Jamie Garvin and Electric Electricity.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
That precious. I just bought that figure like mint in
package maybe like two or three years ago. That precious,
and like none of them have what's the like preserve
even a brand new one is like melting, like the plastic.
There's something in the plastic, like you can't find.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
A perfect one. It doesn't.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
I literally opened it up and it's like disintegrating because
it was just they just took it from some other
toy line.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
They didn't produce it themselves.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
That's crazy. But Remco is coming back, I know. I
think Brian told me.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
You might have to start recollecting those.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Well, I used to book matches and I don't think
I would do that now.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Hear about your fig fed?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Was your fig fed?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Did you?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Did you click remcos into the end? Because that last
set the single card ones are ridiculously.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
I think there was a I think I was still
into wrestling, but it was we couldn't buy toys and
stuff like that, so occasionally just kind of just like faded.
I think my last wrestling purchase was I think I
stole uh oh yeah, So remember the Rocky Ring the Rocky.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Yes, well right, the Hogan is naked. You know he's
in there, but he's like a naked Ever did you
buy that or yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I might.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
The Hogan he's wearing like skin colored trucks.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
No, I he definitely didn't have any accessory.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
No, it's just like a skid color you ever see this?
I got to pull it up later. Maybe the one
I saw was No, they make that. They make like
you know, Rocky clubber lang Uh and Lis, But this
particular one has like it's like a molded trunks.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
But I'm gonna look it up. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm
gonna look it up.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I had to steal him. I don't have any money
I needed him for I needed him for bookings.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah, you had a Remco fig fed. Yes, how did
that go? Any memories of that?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I just had a lot of fun with him.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Man.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
I used to tape record the matches because I would
call them also, so you play by play.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
That was one of those things that I like, I
think it like. It exploded my wrestling fandom because I
had my own little wrestling fed that I felt in
charge of and stuff. Right, Yeah, it's only bound by
your creativity kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
And I would try to book Loops and this was
when I was really young Loops. Oh yeah, we'd have
a one pm show.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Ye what prey forward thinking, Well, it was in my bedroom.
The other was in like my sister's bed was different arenas.
I had a lot. Yeah, that's a weird thing that
it was just me, But I didn't grasp like different
towns until I actually became wrestling.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I went to different towns.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, it's hard to be like they're live in Pittsburgh.
It's hard for me to even like really as a kid,
I didn't like, did you grasp that?
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Well? One time I remember was watching like Sunday Night
Heat and it was like Big Boss Man versus Test
and they did the same match like weeks prior to
NASA call the same house.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I'm like what, I'm like, it's the same match.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
I used to be blown away by that and now
like because we didn't, I didn't know it then as
much as I know it now, where it's like, yeah,
the house shows were all the same matches and like
NWA would run like they did that one it was
Steamboat and Flare and like Maryland and they drove up
the Philly and did it the same day, same like
fifty five minute match.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, but I mean that's pretty nuts. But yeah, I am.
What's really nuts is the people that know this and
then follow the shows and keep cut like you know
what I mean, Like whatever your red hat sign, guy,
I'm seeing him for like three nights in all, I'm
going dude, you've seen the same exact so I guess
I appreciate the loyalty. And when I went to college is.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
When I start and that's when I start getting in
the ec W and then I start going to the
I went to school university at Hartford, so Hartford Civic Center,
Springfield Civic Center, Boston Spots. Yeah, but that's when I
kind of was like, what's going on here? You know,
I R S versus Razor. Ramone has the same finish
that it did last week.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
He goes, Razor goes over and he leaves and he
gets called back or like what so so get into that,
how did this fandom turn into we're all crazy for
our fandom turns into that we want to get involved
in this.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
You know, for me, it was I was pretty out
of it. You know, I just stopped watching probably somewhere.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
In high school. I want to say, in at your
age range that like early nineties wrestling is probably not I.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Would I did watch it, but you're like Hazebro wrestling
figures for you then there was no house.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah, but like I'm thinking, you're too old and that's
probably like a thing to your sorry to your age
and you know, what I mean, who who, Like I'm
the obviously like as I got older, I got like
ecw nttitude or I'm like, oh yeah, I was cool,
kind of like natural person. It was a nice bridge
for us to like from the cartoon wrestling. We kind
of grew up onto that, but you definitely didn't have that.
It was like it was a weird time.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Like I would go to the Philadelphia Civic Center to
watch WCW shows that had like two hundred people.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
It was that time in the business where I was like,
oh my god, right, scandal down. Yeah, everything was just bad,
and so I just kind of faded away.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
And then I went to college and like I maybe
my junior year or something, I came home for Christmas
break and I put on Philadelpha was scrolling through channels,
and I see Eddie Gilbert and Terry Funk beating the
shit out of each other with a chain. I'm like,
what's this because Funk you know.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Eighty nine or yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
I was always a big Gilbert fan. So I'm watching
us like this is awesome, and they're like, you know,
I was it ultra class or something's coming to New Philadelphia.
I'm like Philadelphia and I was like class ninety three something. Yeah,
I did go to that, so it was maybe ninety
two this happened, and I, uh, I remember seeing Philly
and I'm like Swanson and written.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Are like, where the hell is that?
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Like I had no idea really, and then I went
to Uh, I went to a TV taping. I think
I went by myself and I have a lot of
friends who are still in the wrestling, but like I
remember the first match was like Ivan coll Off and somebody.
I was like, whoa Ivan coll Offs here? Because I'm
remembering like the n W a SO and that was
Eastern Championship Wrestling early.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
People don't realize people on that roster, like Snooker Morocco
was yeah, singles es, you know, like he was here.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Tray heath Man thought him everything he knows.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
It's take a quick little break here to show that
that that that Hoga that came to the ring is
indeed naked. I'm showing you a picture that is the
one I had. Just it's just skin colored trucks. It's
like non acceptable, right, Like that's why I don't get
it for my collection. I can't listen. I love Hogan,
but I don't know if I love Hogan's Hog. I
(17:54):
don't know if I can display Hogan's Hog. You know
what I'm saying, everyone, I don't know if I get
this is display like proud Like one time I bought
an l j and Miss Elizabeth it was a prototype
and she was naked and like this, this like the
guys in the factory made this, you know, real, this
was just like in the factory. This's non mess peers
that they made it. Kind of like it's a little
(18:14):
not like a rib but like a little inside joke.
Had to be a rib of the Ljaan designers or something. Dude,
but Pubic care naked nipples, I swear to God. So
I bought it because I collect like pre production stuff.
And then I got like, well, what am I gonna
do with this because I can't Like Macham would be
very upset if I had this like proudly and it's
(18:38):
just so oddso like I call like a backer, like
it was it was on display, but like things were
covering us, you didn't know. And then we put out
a YouTube video like the history of the l j NS,
and I held it up, we blurred it right, and
we talked about and then someone contacted me. Long story short,
I sold it for forty five thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
What'd you buy it for?
Speaker 3 (18:56):
It was in a whole lot that Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
But so you just crushed.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I mean I made I definitely made money.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Definitely were like getting rid of it because you can't
display it anyway. That was strange man across the line.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
So mine was like a prototype.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
It was all resident unpainted, right, But then once this
was public that I had sold it another one. It's
still on eBay to this day, painted like painted nipples
like everything. So how many of these naked Elizabeths are
out there? Naked Elizabeth? It's it's very just. But it's
(19:31):
been sitting up there for years. I don't think there's
any I mean, how many people in the market for
naked Elizabeth figure?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
You know, like you don't have many kids. I have
two daughters. I can have a naked Miss Elizabeth of
my shelf.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Like it's like, it's very strange, all.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Right, So how do you get into e c W.
You go as a fan? How does that all work?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
When as a fan for Ultra Clash and then oh
my gosh, I just.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Saw recently, I just saw it.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Sorry, I put in miss Elizabeth l j n highest
thing and nothing's there.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Go to like solder or over listings, completed sales. Yeah,
breaking news. I swear I just saw it a couple
of days ago.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
On there.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Look at this, we're talking about e c W and
naked Elizabeth figures.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
These are things that don't I don't wake up thinking about.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Here's the one that was on ebays Like you can, dude,
what I That's what I wanted, the love of reaction.
Let's get out of here, like molded, molded, pubt get out.
No way that it's wild alright, So anyway e c W.
(20:44):
So you go to a c W show by yourself.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, so I went to.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
TV taping and then I went to Ultra Clash, which
was you know, it was like what was it, uh
Stan Hanson Abbey, Oh wow, Eddie Gilbert and Funk main event,
Oh okay, and soul of It. And that was the
night that Eddie like quit and like they had the
little shoot in the back. Did you ever hear about that?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Kind of sort of But I never know who's lying
or telling the truth about what I.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Wasn't in the back. I just because I was still in,
you know, and as a fan, and yeah, I guess
him and Paul bring there.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
They were like best friends and falling out.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Yeah, they went Todd, like Eddie and Todd had a
falling out from my understanding, and they were bringing Paul in,
and Paul was bringing public Enemy Taz and Dreamer and
that's how that all transitioned. But it's funny to be
that I was there that night, not knowing what was
going In the back. I was justs like to meet
Eddie Gilbert and have signed some ship.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, I was. I always loved him. I always thought.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Eddie Gilber was a great power town. Get do they
haven't signed?
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I don't know. They have seven hundred talent signed. Yeah
you guys using me for like a figure. There's so
much cool hot stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Right, I think there's a there's meat there on the bone.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
So then I went to a show in December and
I was just literally leaving the building and on the
floor was E. C. W. Action Wire, which was the program, and.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
I just grabbed it and it's on the back like
interested in contributing or something called Gabe kind of like
that thing you signed his number. I still I still
have that stuff though, like that thing you showed me yesterday,
I blew me away. So I called Gabe. I'm like, hey,
my name's Lou. Like I write for my school paper.
I'd love to like be a correspondent. He's like, oh,
(22:19):
I can't pay you. I'm like, I don't care, Just
can you get me into the shows?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
You know? And I started.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
So I wrote for like probably like a year, just
doing like I go to the shows, I write a match,
you know, but like in k Fabe, like it was like.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
No, it was all legit, like not hey did this spot.
It was like you funk beat him to the side,
and you know the uh Shane Tully Blanchard one hour draw,
like I wrote about that and things like that.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
And then uh, then he needed a photographer. He's like,
I need somebody to do pictures. I'm like, I'm a photographer.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Are you really? Are you just trying to get okay,
you're just trying to get a gig.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
No.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
I was like, I'll do whatever as long as you
like somebody will pay for the film. And then so
I did ringside pictures for a long time. In fact,
if you watch some of the eighty was it so
ninety early ninety five stuff. You will see me at ringside.
It's taking pictung hair flannels, it's grunge air taking pictures.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
And I still have all the pictures.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Wow, that's awesome.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
They're pretty sick, and in my mind, in my I've
always wanted to do like projects where I could put
those out and like, cause there's some really sick shots,
but I know everyone else has probably better ones. I
just see it from my own eyes, right, because there
was some It was something with them taking those pictures
that I learned more about the business and how guys
sell with their facial expressions. Looked like I was getting
(23:35):
smartened up big time.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I'm like, you're in the best seat in the house
you can hear. I'm sure you heard a lot of stuff.
Though I heard a shot and.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
It was like, I'm still am fascinated about calling spots
for some reasons, but I yeah, that's really how I
start like learning learning. And then I became friends with
Scottie with Raven and Stevie and they were going to
like an indie show and reading Pennsylvania, and Stevie called
me because I just want to ride up with us just.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
To like hang out.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
It was really he wanted me to drive Walke's and
cell phones off, so uh yeah. So I get to
his house, He's like, oh, yeah, can you drive him?
Like no, I can't, it's my mom's.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Car, Like I can't you think I do? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah yeah. But though then Raven's like, well see if
you just drive then, and he was like hot.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
But we drove up to reading Body Slams or Body Slammers,
Body Slams Arena, Damien Kaine's place and Scotty the whole way.
Just talk to me and he's like, are you trained
or anything?
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I'm like no. And then, uh, probably like two months later,
I was going to get my ringside photography going and
someone came up to me and like, Raven needs to
see you right now.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
And usually that's like, oh, what did I do? Yeah,
and he just looked at me and he goes, congratulations,
you have graduated.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
You are now signed. Guy Dudley go to the CVS,
get poster board and markers and come see me. And
I'm like what And that's literally how it started. That's
it crazy. So you weren't even like no, no, you know,
sweaty wheel trying to get the grease there. I was
just happy to like, Oh, I never ever had thought
of being in the ring, like ever crossed my mold.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Is there a potential for a Basle to be Brosky's
new manager?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
It might be, it might be you never know.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
That's pretty great. And that was it and then you
never took photos of again your just talent.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Correct and what was And I also one thing I
missed that I was also doing the original Fancam stuff too.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Oh that was used.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
I'm the only cam quarter because I would like to
videotape wrestling, you know what I mean, just the house
shows and things like that.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I'd sneak it in. But what's funny about that night?
So I'm at they you know, I make my sign.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
It's like Dudley's rule, Dudley spelled wrong, all this kind
of stuff. They put me in the front row and
they're just like sit there all night, hold up signs
and they're all pro Dudley signs. They gave me I
found a tied eye or somebody gave me a tied
eye and no overalls yet. So I sat there and
then there's a match Dudley Dudley versus Tommy Dreamer, and
they go do their thing.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Tommy's up.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Tommy rolls outside the ring kind of just to tell me, like,
screw off, I'm not smart to the business.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
And I'm like, fuck you, motherfucker, and he's like, you
can curse on here. Yeah. No, I don't think he
said that. The reason I mumbled is because I don't.
I said something and I got in his face a
little and he's just grabbed me and pulled me baby face.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
He's a baby face. He challenged his integrity.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
He's got to do something. So I was this was
a shoot.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Now pulls me over the guardrail and he's picking me
up to put me in the ring, and I'm like,
what is going on? And he and he goes watch
the chair and he throws me in the ring and
I'm like okay. So I get in the ring and
like I look up and he has the chair so
crushes me with the chair and I was like at
(26:37):
that moment, I was like, wow, this is cool.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah, that hurt.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
And then he picks me up. Watch the d DT
yeah take it. And I'm like, and here's where we
used to in college like d d T each other
like because there were just college kids feeling done. So
I knew how to take a d DT. So if
you ever see it, it's like when I got to
the back first of all, like I'm smiling, they're they're
I did adrenaline adrenaline rushy stretcher jobs the back. I'm like,
(27:04):
oh my god, they put me up, and everyone's like,
did you know that was happening. I was like, I
had no idea. And then Tommy came up to me.
He said I had to do it.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Man, you got in my face and I'm like, He's like,
I'm a baby face And that's right when I learned
like that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
But it was crazy, dude, And that's literally. And then
I went to the wrestling school and house.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Hard eventually some proper trainer.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Yeah, because they they when I was up there with
Perry and Tasan or that do you want to be
a wrestler or you want to be a manager? I
was like, let's I initially said wrestler, and then someone
said you're already in the spot. Learn how to be
a manager, right, yeah, yeah, because you can go quicker,
and that's what I did.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
And then Dudley lineage, where are you give me the
So it was it was Dudley. It's hard to do
for people. It was Dudley Dudley. You're in a new career.
You're gonna be Brosky's manager at Impact. Yeah, starting tonight.
So that's an out though. You can get off the show.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Thanks. I helped the bike pick that up. Did you're great?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Thanks? Bye? Okay? Is yes, okay, I'm not easy to
die hard.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
I can't do this, So it's it originally started with
Dudley Dudley. Who was who Jeff Bradley. Jeff Bradley was
a wrestler from Jampa. He was awesome, big Dick, and
then uh, little Snot. It was Anthony Michaels from Smoking
Mountain and.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Then podcast but we're trying to shoot.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Oh that was just a basket. We'll stop though. Hi,
Hi Tommy Dream Hey Tom.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I just told him about how you got me in
the business.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Hi, Rhino. We've got a lot of run ins here.
Rhino's the double dish.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
And I can also fire you, which is not true.
It's not even remotely not close. Anything can get me fired,
I said, don't laugh, Jesus Christ. Yeah, So anyway, it
was Dudley Dudley, Little snot Big Dick. Those are the three.
What about Dances with Dudley, He's coming coming. You were
(29:00):
before him, so you're you're next to I'm actually I'm next.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
So then sign guy comes in and the next night
Dances with Dudley starts, and then that was that was
the first crew and Dan.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Eventually Bubba who's Mongo Vile.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Yeah, he takes a choke slam. From now on one right, dude.
So it's so funny.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
It is like when I went to, like, as I
was trying to learn, I'd go to shows that are
around still living in Hartford, Connecticut, so anything around there.
I'd go to the like lou Rearing show in Deer
Park just to like watch and learn. And I was
there with Dreamer popped in and when he's like, why
are you here, I was like, I'm just literally just
checking this out. And he goes watch this guy he
takes a crazy choke slam and it was it was
(29:42):
Bubba Primo was choke slamming him and I was like, wow,
that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Wow, And that was Bubba A Dudley. It's eventually out came.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Mango Vile with a bullet.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
Oh yeah, got the A C D c the whole thing.
So yeah, so that was so then it was me
and it was me, Bubba, Chubby de von Gus oh many.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
That's why it's so hard to do.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
But then it started like you know, what happened now
you know, knowing a lot more is like they start
not wanting to fly some guys in and all of
a sudden it just became it was me and dances
with Bubba, Devon and Spike, Big Dick occasionally dances with Dudley.
I don't know what happened. He just never came back
and then not trained with him, but he would come
(30:22):
by our trains going we were like our first months
and he would come by. Adolphin was alpha. That's it.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
It was very nice. Another story for a different day.
But he got so mad. IM tell them now. But
it has nothing to do with figures.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
But just to transition back to the collectibles and stuff.
So what are I know, like that's some things that
we've talked about, like you know in real life all
the time. What are some things from like your wrestling
career that you've held on to and collected and you know,
you have a collection of my first shirt that I wore,
a signed guy. I have a ton of my signs.
I have.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
There was an angle we did a ninety eight with
Dreamer where he busted my knee and I would wear
Dudley like we hate dreams with Buela and stuff that
it was just because it was like a really good run.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
So I have all those. I have every like print
material like tickets.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
You have tickets, stuff passes and stuff.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
Right, I have the passes, but I also have like
the memos that used to be sent about crossing the border.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
And see that's the kind of stuff I like.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Like you just read and I have a contracts and
and things like that. If you're read now you're like,
what what was going on?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
I couldn't imagine what a freaking E c W contract
looks like.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
I have a Yeah, I can show it to you.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
It's probably a major Beddies contact I have.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
When I did the angle with Billy Corgan the first
time he blasted guitar over my head, I have the
guitar like it's in pieces, but it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah you did.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
And uh, that's one thing it's like I'm never there's
those things. Is money can't buy kind of thing?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
That's yes. I mean when we started, I'm sure, and
you're they're like, don't be a mark for yourself, done
this and that. But I feel like what we do
is so unique and special and you should embrace it
and be proud of the things.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
And you know nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
I am.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Yeah a lot of times, and those like you can't
take pictures back then, That's why I take so many
pictures now, a little different era, for sure, get smacked if.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
You brought a lot camera. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy right now.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Okay, so thirty years later, almost you're gonna get your
first figure.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Hopefully we're all.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Rooting for Rush collectibles here to get right, because that
ECW toy line was awesome and there's so many guys
that it'd make yourself included. So it'll be cool for
me as a fan to get it. But I'm sure
even cooler for you to have your first figure.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah it was.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
That was cool for you guys. I believe you set
it up correct.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I nudged him.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
I think somebody nudged them positive, which I appreciate. I
recently had, like a year and a half ago, a
fan just sent me one of me and I was like,
what he just made it's pretty.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
It was just awesome, and so I was like, this
is cool. Yeah, you know, and somebody just sent me
because I wasn't like that character. You Honestly, it's not
making money.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
I mean, no one's going to be like, oh I'm
about the sign guy Dudley Doll then, but it's a different.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
What's your term?
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Hammerhead Star Wars figures like you need everybody, well you
just like you have lou Darthy, you need like the
fucking that fucking guy and this fucking guy. You need
all those guys you need you're building your fig fed,
you need all the characters. If you're playing, you need
the managers, you need.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
The guy I wish I have to take. Yes, I played,
I played with you guys. I'm a freshman high school
and that'll come out and I'm like, hi, So like
if I would have had you a ringside to help
my Bubba and Devon matches crap kidder what talent meeting?
Talent talent meeting impact of three thirty spread the word
everyone's hearing the major major podcasts here, major players podcast.
(33:38):
What's actually should look at see real quickly? Put like
two or three minutes. We asked some Uh, let's see
if they so you collect like cards now, trading cards?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
That's your thing.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Hockey is probably hockey, say a big slap, Yes, say
I love it.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Let's ask a couple of questions and we'll let lou
Go do his real job.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Jamie Silverberg is asking was that a shoot when Bubba
slammed you down and said you don't know what you're
doing once before a match? Uh? Yeah, no, No, it
wasn't a shoot.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
I don't even remember that, but well I do remember
one time he stiffed the hell out of me on
like he was supposed to slap me. We're like a
breakup with Dreamer or break like he had done an
angle Dreamer I felt as a work that was insulting.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
So Dudley boys beat me up and it was extremely painful.
Extremely It was in Queen's Tyler Lavelle, that's top shelf.
Troy is asking, what's your favorite Joel Gertner line ever?
Speaker 5 (34:35):
The Silence behind the Violence, which is actually a great name,
and what I recently.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Heard it in a nine inch nail song. I'm like,
I think it's stolen.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Oh, it's something like you sing silent and violent? Were
there and pre Signed Guy Dudley was before I.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Was in the business.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Woe. But yeah, we got the origins of sign Guy.
That's here.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Oh, this is something we didn't real touch on that
I do love and I think it's underrated work Louis
Dangerously when you transferred into Louis who came up with
that idea.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
It was a very funny story when I was Signed
Guy because I had long hair and I wore hat.
When I would be in the locker room, people from
behind people would come up to me and go, hey, Paul, Hey,
Paul Johnny ground shit it all the time, and I
would turn around and they'd be like, fuck, you're not Pauline.
So then it was like well, and then Tommy and
I just kind of like, oh, you could be Louis
Dangerously and that.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
That's actually when I became a promoter after Sign Guy.
So I had three months where I didn't do anything
in the ring, right, Tommy's like, we're gonna try out.
I was like cool, because I'd never cut a promo.
I had cut one a Sign Guy. Yeah, you're not
speaking all this time?
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
So it was the opening of the ECW Arena show
and yeah, in Philly was my tryout. The hardest spot
when you open when Joey over course and they bring
me out. But it was like I got the sign
guy and this socks change TNN era, right, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Yeah? Oh yeah yeah. We were the kings of hardcore TV.
I was never very rarely on TNA era that year. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
uh maybe one more? Were you ever? Chris Sullivan's asking
how we're ever super nervous after Bubba was cutting the
scandalous promos that he would do. I was nervous about
getting hurt.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
But I always I've answered that question a lot, actually,
But what I've always said it was like I'm in
the ring with the toughest guys in the business or
in the locker room. So some people may disagree with that,
but I was good.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I did get it attacked by a fan a couple
of times, which was which was in that era, was
kind of like that's great heat.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Now someone of those man look at that. It's the
nerve wracking some of that stuff.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
I mean, I just remember one night he went like
nutso and I'm like leaving and someone just grabs the
back of my hair and pulls.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Me down and that that was like, that's scary. Yeah,
Big Dick got him though. Anyway, all right, let's end
it with this, Daniel Brower, here's a good question, in
your opinion, what made so special compared to other promotions.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
We were the Nirvana of grunge and music. We just
went at it raw and there's no formats, and it
was pretty much like, you know, uncensored stuff that doesn't
follow anything that's currently happening in the business. But at
the same time that the locker room is really where
it sits. So I can say all those things about
grunge and Nirvana, but the guys there, it's they work
(37:27):
so hard, and they worked hard for like a reason,
and a lot of guys.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Left along the way.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Yeah, of course, I think you had a team of
people really wanted to build a brand and really catching
a break. I mean, look at me, I was, I
was a photographer that became this public anybody. It was
a place for those guys to go that wasn't They
would speak to their strengths versus trying to be polished
somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
And we're still talking about all these years later. So
certainly a special.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
That's where the Nirvana reference comes in, and I know
Nirvana is one of my favorite bands obviously, but at
the same time, when you look back on the years
and what they did for rock and roll and what
we did for wrestling, I mean, still get a ECW chance, right,
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Ryan will get them every night still.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
And if you told me that, Dan, I'd be like,
what yeah, right, So I could probably elaborate the Holy
ECW conversation with you, but yeah, we can do this
again for sure.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Lou Passion and thank you. You are the man.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
I appreciate you doing this. We love having you here.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
An impact of school to reconnect after if you have
known you've known each other a really long time. Yeah,
those are stories, right, no time, all right, thank you,
Thanks guys.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
All right, we got some new tag team champions the
major wrestling figure.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Podcasts and whatnot, The Ultimate Tag Team. I'm loving it.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
It's like Instagram live meets eBay. It's uh, it's the
next big thing. And I'm not talking about Brock Listener. Definitely.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
We will actually be on there every week six thirty
pm on Monday's Eastern and we're gonna be doing live
auctions from things in our personal collection from things that
we are finding in the wild anything you want, I
mean crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Rare, rare wrestling collectibles, rare collectibles from other genres, ring
worn gear from our careers, what.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Other what other seller or whatnot has ring worn sweaty
trunks like the Major Restiue podcast.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Exactly, But obviously wrestling figures, lots and lots of wrestling figures.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Another bar. I don't forget my original funk Go Purge.
I'm tiny.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
How many would you say?
Speaker 1 (39:30):
You have? Five hundred most of thousands to get on
thousand every week every week. And here's what you do, guys.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Whatnot is an app. You download the app on your phones,
You look around, you search for Major wf pod, You
follow us there, and then you follow the action figure
category because we know that you, just like us, are
action figure fans.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
So that's all you got to do.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Follow along, join in on our auctions, look at other auctions.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
I mean, dude, you'll get into it.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
I sometimes I'm just up plating my bed, just looking
to see what's on and what's going on because it's
so so much fun and you can become a seller,
sell your own stuff.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Yeah, this is the next big thing, So get in it.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Now
Well return after these messengers.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
YEAHS Podcast showing.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
March alrighty, welcome back to Major Marx dot com exclusive
interview bonus podcast. We're here with E. C W original
good friend of the show, sign Guy Dudley, LOUI E
dangerously LOUD'ANGELI correct?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I say got them all?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Oh you got him.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
He's got a new nickname always ready because we just
aske him five minutes ago.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
He was ready to go. Oh my gimmick, I'll get
over huge with that.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
I'm not like Raven where it's like Johnny Polo, Raven, Scottie,
Flamingo Scott.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
And you ever just sitting on the toilet ball look
up Gallows with many how many names he's had.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
It's it's pretty nuts. And you've if you go through.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
It, that's actually really true.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, very very good point, Louke.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Pleasure to having on the show. Also, pleasure to have
you here at Impact. I mean you're out of the
wrestling business for fifteen years, like eleven or twelve? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
What and what? What what did this to you? What
made you?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
You know what? Man?
Speaker 5 (01:20):
It was this kind of like you know, I was
at I was at CIRCUSLA for eleven years in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Had a great run there.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
It was awesome, but you know, we relaunched the brand
and things like that, and it's kind of like passion
was going away to be frank and for me having
a great nine years there, in the last two years
kind of being like, eh, it was you know, it
was a disservice to them.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
To me, I wasn't feeling it.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
So when time came to go, I left and I
took some time off, and unbeknownst to h everyone, I
got reached out to on LinkedIn by Dan our Production,
a man of everything, saying, hey, my name is Dan.
I worked for a company called Anthem Anthem and.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I just completely assumed Dreamer, like oh no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I thought it is crazy. What Dan rey all.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
He's a great guy for real, And he's like, I
have the email. I work for Anthem. We're having trouble
with uh with some sales thing for this company called
Impact Wrestling. I'm like, is this a rib Like I
was like huh, So I said, sure, like I'll talk,
that's fine. So he calls me up and we're chatting.
I was like, hey, do you know, like I know
(02:29):
Scott and knowing everybody there for like twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
He's like, what Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
It was literally say this is why we have you
on Major Mark.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Dude, today's years old.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I just completely assumed that Dreamer just fucking scouted you
and you know, said, hey, there's a spot.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I know you know you'vent circing is really crazy.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
So it was it was basically like a recruiting cold call,
and then we start chatting. I came on as a
consultant for the first like for like five months. The
initial discussion was also like, hey, if it go as well,
we'd like to maybe talk a full time job stuff
like that.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
So I ended up what happened and like it was
junior July.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
We start having those conversations, and by September I was
in You.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Started last April and Poughkeepsie, right, was that Philly the week? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Philly? Yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
And then look, it was really strange in Philly, to
be honest, and I've shared this with a bunch of people.
It was like stepping back into the wrestling world and
then also not being familiar with a lot like a.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Lot I didn't know many of the guys, like anyone's name, hey.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Man, Hamburger, Wendy Berger. I didn't know.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
I didn't know a lot of the guys. I mean,
I knew like faces and names, piece it all together.
So it's a little apprehensive.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
To be honest. Yeah, it was like it was a
little strange.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
And then in Poughkeepsie, you kind of that's where it
starts sinking in, Like, Yeah, first of all, this company
works their asses off. The locker room is cool. It's
everything I've heard, because you know, sometimes you hear that
ship like yeah, oh this locker room is great, and
you're going suck. It's just like okay, you know. But
that's that's kind of what brought me back in. And
I see impact as like there's just so much we
can do, so much we are doing that we haven't
(04:09):
been able to do before and whatnot. But it's not
on what not what not, but impact is on whatnot,
by the ways. So it was a combination of opportunity
and just I always had a passion for wrestling, and
I always knew I would get back.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Into the business. It was always a goal of mine.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
That I have two daughters and they were a lot older,
so they're thirteen and seventeen now. Because of the travel
and everything, so that is cool.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Timing wise, you got to be home for a lot
of their like, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, that really is.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Super important to me because I always thought about it.
If I go back to wrestling, it's going to be
what it is as far as travel goes. But I
also have the you know, massive, a massive what's incentive
because I work out of my house, so I see
my kids like NonStop, and so it all bounces out.
That's really long answer, but it was always something I
wanted to do. When this opportunity came up, and it
took me a minute to kind of get it. You know,
(05:00):
business has changed since I've been around, but totally love
it now.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
So that's now, let's talk about your earliest.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
You're like, that's great in ew. No, well, and we'll
get to that too, But I want to talk about
you as a kid growing up, Like, what were the
things you were into, the toys you were liked, first
impressions of wrestling, things like that.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Yeah, so when my first toys were Star Wars nineteen
seventy seven.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I have the whole set. Now. Obviously I was too young.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
I grew up.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
I was born in eighty five, and I didn't recognize
or realize what Star Wars was until like the re
releases in the nineties. Yeah, Like now I'm like, well,
I need to have those original ones because you know,
even we just want to do a toy store today, and
just looking at the whole set there, the old like
the Millennium Falcon or the main Ewalk village. It it's
so much cool stuff and I could understand how a
(05:46):
kid from that time, we're just like their lives were
taken over by this.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I was mind blown. I was, you know, five or
six years old.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
I remember Star Wars like was blowing up and the
toys were all sold out and it's not.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Like it is now where you can go. Yeah, I
guess that's something of them. But they weren't like just
all over the shelves. It was like a rat race
kind of thing.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
It was a right but they had an end cap
setup that I have a picture of that's just nuts,
like from when they originally were sold in toy stores,
like the original setups. But I remember my mom coming
home one day from Kitty City, which.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Was yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Which was the toy store by my house, was just
a big bag of every figure except for the Jahua
because the Jahua was really hard to find initially, and
I remember for Christmas, my cousin got me the jah
Wa and dude, I ripped those things open. I played
every scene you can imagine from from Star Wars and
the guns and and then so like when Empire Strikes
(06:38):
Back came back, I was.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Huge in the like Hoth and all those place sets.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
That's what that was.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
That was there today, the toy store, all the cool
hot place sets.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Love.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
They didn't recreate that stuff for the power of the
force when we were kids.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
You know, not the hot, not the yeah, well not eventually, no,
is it I was just thinking, as you're going to
do that, isn't it crazy that, like all the things
have happened in your life that you're probably crazy epic
stuff that you forgot, But these like impressions that toys
made on you when you were a kid just stick.
That's like something about our show that I think, like
if you were a collector and you get it, you
get it. And it's hard to explain to someone who doesn't.
(07:10):
But if you know, you know, and there's like no
need for the explanation because it's so totally deeply sentimental
and impressionable. Because like these vivid details, that's crazy. I
remember something five or six years years old.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
It was it was like it was yesterday, bag toys
and you go from there. And then for like when
I got into wrestling, and I got into wrestling through
my my grandfather and when so I would go so
my mom worked, so a lot of times he would like,
babysit me, watch me whatever, and we would watch wrestling.
And I remember watching I think it was NWA. They
(07:45):
put a big red X across the screen. Did you
ever see those back in the day, So when guys
would get like color, they would red exit.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
On the Oh wow, okay, yeah, I didn't know that.
It is like and you grew up in the Philly area,
so I had all the TV, so I think it
was NWA. I don't think it was WWP time, but
that red X caught me. I was like, why is
there a red X on the screen? And then all
of a sudden you were like, what's behind the red X?
And then that's how wrestling kind of started for me.
And there was an angle I saw with like the Barbarian,
Jimmy Valliant, the Warlord and Pistol Pez Wattley and they
(08:14):
just and Paul Jones. They killed pistol Pez Wattley and
all this.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Like just beating him up and there's like blood everywhere,
and I was like, this is awesome, and that was
kind of my entry point. And then I start watching WWF.
I was always watching NWA, HULLL Cogan and everything like
that for a show at the Spectrum was in nineteen
eighty six. It's funny because Tommy and I were just
talking about it was what was your first show? And
I still remember the whole lineup. He's like, that's a
hell of a show, and I was like, looking back
(08:38):
on it, you're like, dude, that it.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Was actually when if you could find like the program
or something to that.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
I found the prison broadcast like because I remember back well,
you guys don't.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Maybe don't know, yeah, but I'm aware.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Yeah yeah, Like so day would air in Philadelphia and
New York and Boston.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
The house show is the next day. Yea, So that
was awesome.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
I always wanted to go, but if I couldn't go,
I could always watch it. So now you can watch
it again. So I pretty watched that show again. I
wish I could see eleven. I went to and I
was a kid, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
I mean the best part of those for me was
like you buy the program and had like the match
lineups and those are st like iconic.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Oh my god, my mom, you know, rest rest in peace.
But she threw those out. Oh man, And I tell
you man, I had. That was my thing.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
All I wanted was the lineup card because they were
the coolest things like ever. And I have once from
like later years, but I don't have like eighty six,
eighty seven, eighty eight when it was on the NWA
used to like type it on like a white piece
of paper, like it was not like even the lines, No,
it was just literally like a white sheet.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
But it was really cool. Did this wrestling Fantom of
your LJ and guy did that to turn into that? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:40):
So pretty fast, Like so we're just getting w magazine.
I still have like the first issue He'll Billy Jim
on the cover and all that. I think he was
the first cover.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
And inside were the figures and I was like, I
need like all these like right away, and the same
same kind of thing.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
I was going to Kitty City and they had they
had a lot of like schnook.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, like people have these stories that. Yeah, yeah, they're
peg warmers, right. It was tough to get it was
characters for me. It was tough to get the iron cheek. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
I could get stud I could get Andre Hogan was
definitely around, Schnooking wasn't around, but the iron cheek was
really hard to find. And again my mom picked me up.
I can't one day hands me a bag. There's the
chic and you're just like yes with the boots. And
I still have all these. I mean, they've all been
played with.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
They they don't age well if they've if they've been loved,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, yeah, but do.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
You guys like mind have like blood on them? Because
I used to put markers on them a color.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
I would pick the Crayola, like the Craola marker and
if you squeeze it on, it would like drip blood down.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
But it was washable marker.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
You never did that. Brian is something where he would
bite them.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
He's like his childhood bite mark I was like a
baby when these came out, you know, so like I
still have all my childhood ones. Like Jim Kninhard's fingers
are off because his fingers, you know, you can actually
bite you on each fing because it was.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Like a baby get to destroy.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Yes, it was yeah, seriously right, yeah, so mine not
And then if I didn't have a red marker that day,
they were bleeding green.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
It was just you know, you know what. I really
like those. So those figures are awesome. With the A W.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
A Remcos oh your Remco guy all time favorite wow
because they could move and yeah, of course in the
ring the A W.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
A ring was just so ridiculous. But yeah, so, and
they have colors and I still have all those who
did you have of those? I had? The first first
guys I brought were road Warriors in the one pack
and the other pack was it was Rick Martel and Backwinkle.
I believe it's something with.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Claire and Martel.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Oh yeah, it was Flair Martel.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
And then I had those two guys. I had Stephen Original,
Steve Regal, Yeah, Jamie Garvin and Electric Electricity.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
That precious. I just bought that figure like mint in
package maybe like two or three years ago. That precious,
and like none of them have what's the like preserve
even a brand new one is like melting, like the plastic.
There's something in the plastic, like you can't find.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
A perfect one. It doesn't.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
I literally opened it up and it's like disintegrating because
it was just they just took it from some other
toy line.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
They didn't produce it themselves.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
That's crazy. But Remco is coming back, I know. I
think Brian told me.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
You might have to start recollecting those.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Well, I used to book matches and I don't think
I would do that now.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Hear about your fig fed?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Was your fig fed?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Did you?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Did you click remcos into the end? Because that last
set the single card ones are ridiculously.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
I think there was a I think I was still
into wrestling, but it was we couldn't buy toys and
stuff like that, so occasionally just kind of just like faded.
I think my last wrestling purchase was I think I
stole uh oh yeah, So remember the Rocky Ring the Rocky.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Yes, well right, the Hogan is naked. You know he's
in there, but he's like a naked Ever did you
buy that or yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I might.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
The Hogan he's wearing like skin colored trucks.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
No, I he definitely didn't have any accessory.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
No, it's just like a skid color you ever see this?
I got to pull it up later. Maybe the one
I saw was No, they make that. They make like
you know, Rocky clubber lang Uh and Lis, But this
particular one has like it's like a molded trunks.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
But I'm gonna look it up. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm
gonna look it up.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I had to steal him. I don't have any money
I needed him for I needed him for bookings.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah, you had a Remco fig fed. Yes, how did
that go? Any memories of that?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I just had a lot of fun with him.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Man.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
I used to tape record the matches because I would
call them also, so you play by play.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
That was one of those things that I like, I
think it like. It exploded my wrestling fandom because I
had my own little wrestling fed that I felt in
charge of and stuff. Right, Yeah, it's only bound by
your creativity kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
And I would try to book Loops and this was
when I was really young Loops. Oh yeah, we'd have
a one pm show.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Ye what prey forward thinking, Well, it was in my bedroom.
The other was in like my sister's bed was different arenas.
I had a lot. Yeah, that's a weird thing that
it was just me, But I didn't grasp like different
towns until I actually became wrestling.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I went to different towns.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, it's hard to be like they're live in Pittsburgh.
It's hard for me to even like really as a kid,
I didn't like, did you grasp that?
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Well? One time I remember was watching like Sunday Night
Heat and it was like Big Boss Man versus Test
and they did the same match like weeks prior to
NASA call the same house.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I'm like what, I'm like, it's the same match.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
I used to be blown away by that and now
like because we didn't, I didn't know it then as
much as I know it now, where it's like, yeah,
the house shows were all the same matches and like
NWA would run like they did that one it was
Steamboat and Flare and like Maryland and they drove up
the Philly and did it the same day, same like
fifty five minute match.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, but I mean that's pretty nuts. But yeah, I am.
What's really nuts is the people that know this and
then follow the shows and keep cut like you know
what I mean, Like whatever your red hat sign, guy,
I'm seeing him for like three nights in all, I'm
going dude, you've seen the same exact so I guess
I appreciate the loyalty. And when I went to college is.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
When I start and that's when I start getting in
the ec W and then I start going to the
I went to school university at Hartford, so Hartford Civic Center,
Springfield Civic Center, Boston Spots. Yeah, but that's when I
kind of was like, what's going on here? You know,
I R S versus Razor. Ramone has the same finish
that it did last week.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
He goes, Razor goes over and he leaves and he
gets called back or like what so so get into that,
how did this fandom turn into we're all crazy for
our fandom turns into that we want to get involved
in this.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
You know, for me, it was I was pretty out
of it. You know, I just stopped watching probably somewhere.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
In high school. I want to say, in at your
age range that like early nineties wrestling is probably not I.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Would I did watch it, but you're like Hazebro wrestling
figures for you then there was no house.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah, but like I'm thinking, you're too old and that's
probably like a thing to your sorry to your age
and you know, what I mean, who who, Like I'm
the obviously like as I got older, I got like
ecw nttitude or I'm like, oh yeah, I was cool,
kind of like natural person. It was a nice bridge
for us to like from the cartoon wrestling. We kind
of grew up onto that, but you definitely didn't have that.
It was like it was a weird time.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Like I would go to the Philadelphia Civic Center to
watch WCW shows that had like two hundred people.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
It was that time in the business where I was like,
oh my god, right, scandal down. Yeah, everything was just bad,
and so I just kind of faded away.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
And then I went to college and like I maybe
my junior year or something, I came home for Christmas
break and I put on Philadelpha was scrolling through channels,
and I see Eddie Gilbert and Terry Funk beating the
shit out of each other with a chain. I'm like,
what's this because Funk you know.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Eighty nine or yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
I was always a big Gilbert fan. So I'm watching
us like this is awesome, and they're like, you know,
I was it ultra class or something's coming to New Philadelphia.
I'm like Philadelphia and I was like class ninety three something. Yeah,
I did go to that, so it was maybe ninety
two this happened, and I, uh, I remember seeing Philly
and I'm like Swanson and written.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Are like, where the hell is that?
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Like I had no idea really, and then I went
to Uh, I went to a TV taping. I think
I went by myself and I have a lot of
friends who are still in the wrestling, but like I
remember the first match was like Ivan coll Off and somebody.
I was like, whoa Ivan coll Offs here? Because I'm
remembering like the n W a SO and that was
Eastern Championship Wrestling early.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
People don't realize people on that roster, like Snooker Morocco
was yeah, singles es, you know, like he was here.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Tray heath Man thought him everything he knows.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
It's take a quick little break here to show that
that that that Hoga that came to the ring is
indeed naked. I'm showing you a picture that is the
one I had. Just it's just skin colored trucks. It's
like non acceptable, right, Like that's why I don't get
it for my collection. I can't listen. I love Hogan,
but I don't know if I love Hogan's Hog. I
(17:54):
don't know if I can display Hogan's Hog. You know
what I'm saying, everyone, I don't know if I get
this is display like proud Like one time I bought
an l j and Miss Elizabeth it was a prototype
and she was naked and like this, this like the
guys in the factory made this, you know, real, this
was just like in the factory. This's non mess peers
that they made it. Kind of like it's a little
(18:14):
not like a rib but like a little inside joke.
Had to be a rib of the Ljaan designers or something. Dude,
but Pubic care naked nipples, I swear to God. So
I bought it because I collect like pre production stuff.
And then I got like, well, what am I gonna
do with this because I can't Like Macham would be
very upset if I had this like proudly and it's
(18:38):
just so oddso like I call like a backer, like
it was it was on display, but like things were
covering us, you didn't know. And then we put out
a YouTube video like the history of the l j NS,
and I held it up, we blurred it right, and
we talked about and then someone contacted me. Long story short,
I sold it for forty five thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
What'd you buy it for?
Speaker 3 (18:56):
It was in a whole lot that Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
But so you just crushed.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I mean I made I definitely made money.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Definitely were like getting rid of it because you can't
display it anyway. That was strange man across the line.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
So mine was like a prototype.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
It was all resident unpainted, right, But then once this
was public that I had sold it another one. It's
still on eBay to this day, painted like painted nipples
like everything. So how many of these naked Elizabeths are
out there? Naked Elizabeth? It's it's very just. But it's
(19:31):
been sitting up there for years. I don't think there's
any I mean, how many people in the market for
naked Elizabeth figure?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
You know, like you don't have many kids. I have
two daughters. I can have a naked Miss Elizabeth of
my shelf.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Like it's like, it's very strange, all.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Right, So how do you get into e c W.
You go as a fan? How does that all work?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
When as a fan for Ultra Clash and then oh
my gosh, I just.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Saw recently, I just saw it.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Sorry, I put in miss Elizabeth l j n highest
thing and nothing's there.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Go to like solder or over listings, completed sales. Yeah,
breaking news. I swear I just saw it a couple
of days ago.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
On there.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Look at this, we're talking about e c W and
naked Elizabeth figures.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
These are things that don't I don't wake up thinking about.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Here's the one that was on ebays Like you can, dude,
what I That's what I wanted, the love of reaction.
Let's get out of here, like molded, molded, pubt get out.
No way that it's wild alright, So anyway e c W.
(20:44):
So you go to a c W show by yourself.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, so I went to.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
TV taping and then I went to Ultra Clash, which
was you know, it was like what was it, uh
Stan Hanson Abbey, Oh wow, Eddie Gilbert and Funk main event,
Oh okay, and soul of It. And that was the
night that Eddie like quit and like they had the
little shoot in the back. Did you ever hear about that?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Kind of sort of But I never know who's lying
or telling the truth about what I.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Wasn't in the back. I just because I was still in,
you know, and as a fan, and yeah, I guess
him and Paul bring there.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
They were like best friends and falling out.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Yeah, they went Todd, like Eddie and Todd had a
falling out from my understanding, and they were bringing Paul in,
and Paul was bringing public Enemy Taz and Dreamer and
that's how that all transitioned. But it's funny to be
that I was there that night, not knowing what was
going In the back. I was justs like to meet
Eddie Gilbert and have signed some ship.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, I was. I always loved him. I always thought.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Eddie Gilber was a great power town. Get do they
haven't signed?
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I don't know. They have seven hundred talent signed. Yeah
you guys using me for like a figure. There's so
much cool hot stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Right, I think there's a there's meat there on the bone.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
So then I went to a show in December and
I was just literally leaving the building and on the
floor was E. C. W. Action Wire, which was the program, and.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
I just grabbed it and it's on the back like
interested in contributing or something called Gabe kind of like
that thing you signed his number. I still I still
have that stuff though, like that thing you showed me yesterday,
I blew me away. So I called Gabe. I'm like, hey,
my name's Lou. Like I write for my school paper.
I'd love to like be a correspondent. He's like, oh,
(22:19):
I can't pay you. I'm like, I don't care, Just
can you get me into the shows?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
You know? And I started.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
So I wrote for like probably like a year, just
doing like I go to the shows, I write a match,
you know, but like in k Fabe, like it was like.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
No, it was all legit, like not hey did this spot.
It was like you funk beat him to the side,
and you know the uh Shane Tully Blanchard one hour draw,
like I wrote about that and things like that.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
And then uh, then he needed a photographer. He's like,
I need somebody to do pictures. I'm like, I'm a photographer.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Are you really? Are you just trying to get okay,
you're just trying to get a gig.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
No.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
I was like, I'll do whatever as long as you
like somebody will pay for the film. And then so
I did ringside pictures for a long time. In fact,
if you watch some of the eighty was it so
ninety early ninety five stuff. You will see me at ringside.
It's taking pictung hair flannels, it's grunge air taking pictures.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
And I still have all the pictures.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Wow, that's awesome.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
They're pretty sick, and in my mind, in my I've
always wanted to do like projects where I could put
those out and like, cause there's some really sick shots,
but I know everyone else has probably better ones. I
just see it from my own eyes, right, because there
was some It was something with them taking those pictures
that I learned more about the business and how guys
sell with their facial expressions. Looked like I was getting
(23:35):
smartened up big time.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I'm like, you're in the best seat in the house
you can hear. I'm sure you heard a lot of stuff.
Though I heard a shot and.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
It was like, I'm still am fascinated about calling spots
for some reasons, but I yeah, that's really how I
start like learning learning. And then I became friends with
Scottie with Raven and Stevie and they were going to
like an indie show and reading Pennsylvania, and Stevie called
me because I just want to ride up with us just.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
To like hang out.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
It was really he wanted me to drive Walke's and
cell phones off, so uh yeah. So I get to
his house, He's like, oh, yeah, can you drive him?
Like no, I can't, it's my mom's.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Car, Like I can't you think I do? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah yeah. But though then Raven's like, well see if
you just drive then, and he was like hot.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
But we drove up to reading Body Slams or Body Slammers,
Body Slams Arena, Damien Kaine's place and Scotty the whole way.
Just talk to me and he's like, are you trained
or anything?
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I'm like no. And then, uh, probably like two months later,
I was going to get my ringside photography going and
someone came up to me and like, Raven needs to
see you right now.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
And usually that's like, oh, what did I do? Yeah,
and he just looked at me and he goes, congratulations,
you have graduated.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
You are now signed. Guy Dudley go to the CVS,
get poster board and markers and come see me. And
I'm like what And that's literally how it started. That's
it crazy. So you weren't even like no, no, you know,
sweaty wheel trying to get the grease there. I was
just happy to like, Oh, I never ever had thought
of being in the ring, like ever crossed my mold.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Is there a potential for a Basle to be Brosky's
new manager?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
It might be, it might be you never know.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
That's pretty great. And that was it and then you
never took photos of again your just talent.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Correct and what was And I also one thing I
missed that I was also doing the original Fancam stuff too.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Oh that was used.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
I'm the only cam quarter because I would like to
videotape wrestling, you know what I mean, just the house
shows and things like that.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I'd sneak it in. But what's funny about that night?
So I'm at they you know, I make my sign.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
It's like Dudley's rule, Dudley spelled wrong, all this kind
of stuff. They put me in the front row and
they're just like sit there all night, hold up signs
and they're all pro Dudley signs. They gave me I
found a tied eye or somebody gave me a tied
eye and no overalls yet. So I sat there and
then there's a match Dudley Dudley versus Tommy Dreamer, and
they go do their thing.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Tommy's up.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Tommy rolls outside the ring kind of just to tell me, like,
screw off, I'm not smart to the business.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
And I'm like, fuck you, motherfucker, and he's like, you
can curse on here. Yeah. No, I don't think he
said that. The reason I mumbled is because I don't.
I said something and I got in his face a
little and he's just grabbed me and pulled me baby face.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
He's a baby face. He challenged his integrity.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
He's got to do something. So I was this was
a shoot.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Now pulls me over the guardrail and he's picking me
up to put me in the ring, and I'm like,
what is going on? And he and he goes watch
the chair and he throws me in the ring and
I'm like okay. So I get in the ring and
like I look up and he has the chair so
crushes me with the chair and I was like at
(26:37):
that moment, I was like, wow, this is cool.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah, that hurt.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
And then he picks me up. Watch the d DT
yeah take it. And I'm like, and here's where we
used to in college like d d T each other
like because there were just college kids feeling done. So
I knew how to take a d DT. So if
you ever see it, it's like when I got to
the back first of all, like I'm smiling, they're they're
I did adrenaline adrenaline rushy stretcher jobs the back. I'm like,
(27:04):
oh my god, they put me up, and everyone's like,
did you know that was happening. I was like, I
had no idea. And then Tommy came up to me.
He said I had to do it.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Man, you got in my face and I'm like, He's like,
I'm a baby face And that's right when I learned
like that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
But it was crazy, dude, And that's literally. And then
I went to the wrestling school and house.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Hard eventually some proper trainer.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Yeah, because they they when I was up there with
Perry and Tasan or that do you want to be
a wrestler or you want to be a manager? I
was like, let's I initially said wrestler, and then someone
said you're already in the spot. Learn how to be
a manager, right, yeah, yeah, because you can go quicker,
and that's what I did.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
And then Dudley lineage, where are you give me the
So it was it was Dudley. It's hard to do
for people. It was Dudley Dudley. You're in a new career.
You're gonna be Brosky's manager at Impact. Yeah, starting tonight.
So that's an out though. You can get off the show.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Thanks. I helped the bike pick that up. Did you're great?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Thanks? Bye? Okay? Is yes, okay, I'm not easy to
die hard.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
I can't do this, So it's it originally started with
Dudley Dudley. Who was who Jeff Bradley. Jeff Bradley was
a wrestler from Jampa. He was awesome, big Dick, and
then uh, little Snot. It was Anthony Michaels from Smoking
Mountain and.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Then podcast but we're trying to shoot.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Oh that was just a basket. We'll stop though. Hi,
Hi Tommy Dream Hey Tom.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I just told him about how you got me in
the business.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Hi, Rhino. We've got a lot of run ins here.
Rhino's the double dish.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
And I can also fire you, which is not true.
It's not even remotely not close. Anything can get me fired,
I said, don't laugh, Jesus Christ. Yeah, So anyway, it
was Dudley Dudley, Little snot Big Dick. Those are the three.
What about Dances with Dudley, He's coming coming. You were
(29:00):
before him, so you're you're next to I'm actually I'm next.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
So then sign guy comes in and the next night
Dances with Dudley starts, and then that was that was
the first crew and Dan.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Eventually Bubba who's Mongo Vile.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Yeah, he takes a choke slam. From now on one right, dude.
So it's so funny.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
It is like when I went to, like, as I
was trying to learn, I'd go to shows that are
around still living in Hartford, Connecticut, so anything around there.
I'd go to the like lou Rearing show in Deer
Park just to like watch and learn. And I was
there with Dreamer popped in and when he's like, why
are you here, I was like, I'm just literally just
checking this out. And he goes watch this guy he
takes a crazy choke slam and it was it was
(29:42):
Bubba Primo was choke slamming him and I was like, wow,
that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Wow, And that was Bubba A Dudley. It's eventually out came.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Mango Vile with a bullet.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
Oh yeah, got the A C D c the whole thing.
So yeah, so that was so then it was me
and it was me, Bubba, Chubby de von Gus oh many.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
That's why it's so hard to do.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
But then it started like you know, what happened now
you know, knowing a lot more is like they start
not wanting to fly some guys in and all of
a sudden it just became it was me and dances
with Bubba, Devon and Spike, Big Dick occasionally dances with Dudley.
I don't know what happened. He just never came back
and then not trained with him, but he would come
(30:22):
by our trains going we were like our first months
and he would come by. Adolphin was alpha. That's it.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
It was very nice. Another story for a different day.
But he got so mad. IM tell them now. But
it has nothing to do with figures.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
But just to transition back to the collectibles and stuff.
So what are I know, like that's some things that
we've talked about, like you know in real life all
the time. What are some things from like your wrestling
career that you've held on to and collected and you know,
you have a collection of my first shirt that I wore,
a signed guy. I have a ton of my signs.
I have.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
There was an angle we did a ninety eight with
Dreamer where he busted my knee and I would wear
Dudley like we hate dreams with Buela and stuff that
it was just because it was like a really good run.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
So I have all those. I have every like print
material like tickets.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
You have tickets, stuff passes and stuff.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
Right, I have the passes, but I also have like
the memos that used to be sent about crossing the border.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
And see that's the kind of stuff I like.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Like you just read and I have a contracts and
and things like that. If you're read now you're like,
what what was going on?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
I couldn't imagine what a freaking E c W contract
looks like.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
I have a Yeah, I can show it to you.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
It's probably a major Beddies contact I have.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
When I did the angle with Billy Corgan the first
time he blasted guitar over my head, I have the
guitar like it's in pieces, but it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah you did.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
And uh, that's one thing it's like I'm never there's
those things. Is money can't buy kind of thing?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
That's yes. I mean when we started, I'm sure, and
you're they're like, don't be a mark for yourself, done
this and that. But I feel like what we do
is so unique and special and you should embrace it
and be proud of the things.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
And you know nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
I am.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Yeah a lot of times, and those like you can't
take pictures back then, That's why I take so many
pictures now, a little different era, for sure, get smacked if.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
You brought a lot camera. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy right now.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Okay, so thirty years later, almost you're gonna get your
first figure.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Hopefully we're all.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Rooting for Rush collectibles here to get right, because that
ECW toy line was awesome and there's so many guys
that it'd make yourself included. So it'll be cool for
me as a fan to get it. But I'm sure
even cooler for you to have your first figure.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah it was.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
That was cool for you guys. I believe you set
it up correct.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
I nudged him.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
I think somebody nudged them positive, which I appreciate. I
recently had, like a year and a half ago, a
fan just sent me one of me and I was like,
what he just made it's pretty.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
It was just awesome, and so I was like, this
is cool. Yeah, you know, and somebody just sent me
because I wasn't like that character. You Honestly, it's not
making money.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
I mean, no one's going to be like, oh I'm
about the sign guy Dudley Doll then, but it's a different.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
What's your term?
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Hammerhead Star Wars figures like you need everybody, well you
just like you have lou Darthy, you need like the
fucking that fucking guy and this fucking guy. You need
all those guys you need you're building your fig fed,
you need all the characters. If you're playing, you need
the managers, you need.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
The guy I wish I have to take. Yes, I played,
I played with you guys. I'm a freshman high school
and that'll come out and I'm like, hi, So like
if I would have had you a ringside to help
my Bubba and Devon matches crap kidder what talent meeting?
Talent talent meeting impact of three thirty spread the word
everyone's hearing the major major podcasts here, major players podcast.
(33:38):
What's actually should look at see real quickly? Put like
two or three minutes. We asked some Uh, let's see
if they so you collect like cards now, trading cards?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
That's your thing.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Hockey is probably hockey, say a big slap, Yes, say
I love it.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Let's ask a couple of questions and we'll let lou
Go do his real job.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Jamie Silverberg is asking was that a shoot when Bubba
slammed you down and said you don't know what you're
doing once before a match? Uh? Yeah, no, No, it
wasn't a shoot.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
I don't even remember that, but well I do remember
one time he stiffed the hell out of me on
like he was supposed to slap me. We're like a
breakup with Dreamer or break like he had done an
angle Dreamer I felt as a work that was insulting.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
So Dudley boys beat me up and it was extremely painful.
Extremely It was in Queen's Tyler Lavelle, that's top shelf.
Troy is asking, what's your favorite Joel Gertner line ever?
Speaker 5 (34:35):
The Silence behind the Violence, which is actually a great name,
and what I recently.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Heard it in a nine inch nail song. I'm like,
I think it's stolen.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Oh, it's something like you sing silent and violent? Were
there and pre Signed Guy Dudley was before I.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Was in the business.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Woe. But yeah, we got the origins of sign Guy.
That's here.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Oh, this is something we didn't real touch on that
I do love and I think it's underrated work Louis
Dangerously when you transferred into Louis who came up with
that idea.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
It was a very funny story when I was Signed
Guy because I had long hair and I wore hat.
When I would be in the locker room, people from
behind people would come up to me and go, hey, Paul, Hey,
Paul Johnny ground shit it all the time, and I
would turn around and they'd be like, fuck, you're not Pauline.
So then it was like well, and then Tommy and
I just kind of like, oh, you could be Louis
Dangerously and that.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
That's actually when I became a promoter after Sign Guy.
So I had three months where I didn't do anything
in the ring, right, Tommy's like, we're gonna try out.
I was like cool, because I'd never cut a promo.
I had cut one a Sign Guy. Yeah, you're not
speaking all this time?
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
So it was the opening of the ECW Arena show
and yeah, in Philly was my tryout. The hardest spot
when you open when Joey over course and they bring
me out. But it was like I got the sign
guy and this socks change TNN era, right, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Yeah? Oh yeah yeah. We were the kings of hardcore TV.
I was never very rarely on TNA era that year. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
uh maybe one more? Were you ever? Chris Sullivan's asking
how we're ever super nervous after Bubba was cutting the
scandalous promos that he would do. I was nervous about
getting hurt.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
But I always I've answered that question a lot, actually,
But what I've always said it was like I'm in
the ring with the toughest guys in the business or
in the locker room. So some people may disagree with that,
but I was good.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I did get it attacked by a fan a couple
of times, which was which was in that era, was
kind of like that's great heat.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Now someone of those man look at that. It's the
nerve wracking some of that stuff.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
I mean, I just remember one night he went like
nutso and I'm like leaving and someone just grabs the
back of my hair and pulls.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Me down and that that was like, that's scary. Yeah,
Big Dick got him though. Anyway, all right, let's end
it with this, Daniel Brower, here's a good question, in
your opinion, what made so special compared to other promotions.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
We were the Nirvana of grunge and music. We just
went at it raw and there's no formats, and it
was pretty much like, you know, uncensored stuff that doesn't
follow anything that's currently happening in the business. But at
the same time that the locker room is really where
it sits. So I can say all those things about
grunge and Nirvana, but the guys there, it's they work
(37:27):
so hard, and they worked hard for like a reason,
and a lot of guys.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Left along the way.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
Yeah, of course, I think you had a team of
people really wanted to build a brand and really catching
a break. I mean, look at me, I was, I
was a photographer that became this public anybody. It was
a place for those guys to go that wasn't They
would speak to their strengths versus trying to be polished
somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
And we're still talking about all these years later. So
certainly a special.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
That's where the Nirvana reference comes in, and I know
Nirvana is one of my favorite bands obviously, but at
the same time, when you look back on the years
and what they did for rock and roll and what
we did for wrestling, I mean, still get a ECW chance, right,
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Ryan will get them every night still.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
And if you told me that, Dan, I'd be like,
what yeah, right, So I could probably elaborate the Holy
ECW conversation with you, but yeah, we can do this
again for sure.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Lou Passion and thank you. You are the man.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
I appreciate you doing this. We love having you here.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
An impact of school to reconnect after if you have
known you've known each other a really long time. Yeah,
those are stories, right, no time, all right, thank you,
Thanks guys.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
All right, we got some new tag team champions the
major wrestling figure.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Podcasts and whatnot, The Ultimate Tag Team. I'm loving it.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
It's like Instagram live meets eBay. It's uh, it's the
next big thing. And I'm not talking about Brock Listener. Definitely.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
We will actually be on there every week six thirty
pm on Monday's Eastern and we're gonna be doing live
auctions from things in our personal collection from things that
we are finding in the wild anything you want, I
mean crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Rare, rare wrestling collectibles, rare collectibles from other genres, ring
worn gear from our careers, what.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Other what other seller or whatnot has ring worn sweaty
trunks like the Major Restiue podcast.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Exactly, But obviously wrestling figures, lots and lots of wrestling figures.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Another bar. I don't forget my original funk Go Purge.
I'm tiny.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
How many would you say?
Speaker 1 (39:30):
You have? Five hundred most of thousands to get on
thousand every week every week. And here's what you do, guys.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Whatnot is an app. You download the app on your phones,
You look around, you search for Major wf pod, You
follow us there, and then you follow the action figure
category because we know that you, just like us, are
action figure fans.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
So that's all you got to do.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Follow along, join in on our auctions, look at other auctions.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
I mean, dude, you'll get into it.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
I sometimes I'm just up plating my bed, just looking
to see what's on and what's going on because it's
so so much fun and you can become a seller,
sell your own stuff.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Yeah, this is the next big thing, So get in it.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
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