Crazy Trains, Censorship & Cancel Culture

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hudson River Radio dot Com.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello out there and podcast land and beyond and wherever
else anyone might be. I'm Maxie Margar Rubin along with
my co host Malcolm Berman, and this is the Many
Shades of Green, our program that adds a dash of
green into your life. As we engage in conversations that
move to inform, educate, activate, and raise your eco and

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social consciousness through culture, politics, music, art, books, media, science
and community. We hope to inspire you to pick a
shade of green and become a steward of this beautiful, blue,
green planet we call Earth. So Hi Malcolm m out
in La la Land. Hello, and Hi Neil back in
studio And uh so, anyway, it's been nutty. We're in

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nutty times and and and crazy times. And uh we
lost uh Ozzy Osbourne this week, and you know, I
was thinking about, you know, doing a little tribute to him,
but I figured that a good thing to do, because
the lyrics are so apropos is play the tune crazy train.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Hi Hi hi.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
H raiyam. But that's how it goes.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Million of people. Man maga's fool maybam. It's not too late,
then up and forget how the way mental loves not

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really like to believe that. Sh I'm going up the
rails down the crazy trade. I'm going up the said
down the crazy track. It's a I've listened to breakchalls.

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I've listened to fools. I wasn't on the drop about.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Who make that a rule?

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Why was it?

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Condition?

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Rule? And control?

Speaker 2 (03:31):
The meady the sails?

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Eg.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
Then you leave the room back.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
The loans stall speaking.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Fronding me the same, I'm going out the raid any
raising trade. I'm going out the round, got a crazy trade.

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I know that things go.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Well. That was crazy train, and I think we're all
writing on a crazy train right now because what's going
on again, as I said, is if even if you
have a quarter of a brain, you gotta know something's
like gone mad here. Uh So the lyrics really spoke
to me when I looked at them, because they're very aproposed.
So I'm not doing all the lyrics, but basically the

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lyrics that I'm gonna, you know, throw out right now.
It says, uh crazy, but that's how it goes. Millions
of people living as foes. Maybe it's not too late
to learn how to love and forget how to hate.
Mental wounds not healing. Life's a bitter shame. I'm going
off the rails on a crazy train. I've listened to preachers,

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I've listened to fools. I've watched all the dropouts who
make their own rules. One person's condition to rule and control.
The media sells it and you live the role. Wow, wow,
and wow. Because it is literally happening in front of
our eyes today. That's that's now. I mean, this is now.

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I don't not sure when this was written, but I
got don't I don't have the date, but it's got
to be a bit ago. But you know, he's he
was kind of something else, and so I was just
looking in articles about him, and he said, and I
mean it was reported in a Men's Journal article on

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July twenty second, and he said. He quoted him as saying,
I believe in God. I don't go to church, but
I don't think you have to go to church to
believe to believe in God. Regarding the idea of heaven,
he said, my idea of heaven is feeling good, a
place where people are all right to each other. This

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world scares the sh it out of me. We're all
living on the tinder box, and Ozzie continued to say,
there's something, there's some maniac somewhere trying to devise a
new means of destruction. It always amazes me that mankind
always goes to find the biggest, powerfulest means of destruction

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before they find anything good. It's always the negative things
they find first. Sound familiar. Osborn Boyn also said that
since he had children, he wondered what is being left
for them? And what a future we've got for mankind?
This is Osborne, mister mental. Uh he was a lot

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more to him, for sure. And uh, I know, I
was coming back from the airport to the parking lot
in JFKM. We we got a ride and Jitney and
these people were coming back from England where they had
just seen him play in Birmingham and it was the
last and and these people were you know that they

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were able to get tickets and go there because they're mad,
you know, made big fans and and they were just
so excited to be able to have seen it. Even
though he was sitting in a chair, you know the
whole time he couldn't get up.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
But I guess that was the last reunion with the
Black Sabbath, I believe.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah. So anyhow, he was quite something and to me,
the question arises, as he said, like, what are we
leaving our kids and their kids when the current regime,
and I actually absolutely highlight regime in Washington is taking
us back one hundred years or more and we are

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on the eve of destroying the environment as rules and
regulations to reduce climate change in fossil fuel pollution are
being removed removed. I just sometimes I just don't even
know how to like.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
And make it easier for big business and these amazing
corporations to do the pollutions with that right after effect.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Right. So, the Environmental Protection Agency, the EPA, which was
founded in nineteen seventy at the behest of President Nixon.
Richard Nixon got this started and it was made a
department to safeguard our air, water, and land. But today
the very agency created to protect us is rolling back
the rules designed to do exactly that. What happens when

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protections for clean air, clean water, and public lands are
weakened And who really benefits, Malcolm, you kind of just
said that clearly big oil and the coal industry are
the benefactors and are dancing in the streets as the
black soot and dangerous particulate matter infuses the air with pollutants.
Can people not see what's going on? Are we in

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our bubbles so deep that we continue to not see
that our health will be affected for generations as the
regulations in place to protect us are stripped away. What's
it gonna take for the citizens to take action? In
the words of my brother Mitch, you got the power.
I've seen you use it. They say you don't have it.

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That's how you lose it. So take back your power
and do something. So welcome to the Many Shades of Green.
There's so much to talk about. I don't know where
to start. First, I can go and talk about the EPA,
which since the show is the many shades of green
and environmental we can do. Want to definitely touch on

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what's going on in the media with Colbert and Stewart
in south Park today reaming you know who I mean
and I don't. And it's not a light reaming. It's insane,
is all I can say. So, I mean, they let
the kind of genie out of the bottle and now,
oh boy, where are we all headed? So it's you know,

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it's really also I want to try to touch on
the lawyers who are make taking a stand, the solo
practitioners and the small law firms are banding together to
represent people who need legal help, immigrants, government workers, et cetera.
And it's really you know, there was an article and
I was just so happy to see that this is happening.

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So while the big firms are saying, you know, hey,
we'll do whatever you want, mister fearless leader or leader
or leaderless leader, I don't know, but at any event, So, Malcolm,
what do you want to hit on? First?

Speaker 3 (11:04):
I want to go talk about south Park, all right,
and Paramount because that's Paramount, don't also, right?

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah? I mean, you know, at this point, we were all,
you know, when we saw last week that Colbert was canceled,
and you know, being a fan and seeing what he
you know, what was going on, I couldn't. I just
I felt like nauseous, I really did. I just felt

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that this was so insane that it just I don't know,
I mean to say, this is.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
So clearly political. They say it's not political as financial,
but they're not saving by paramount firing, not firing, but
stopping a show. Now, they're not saving any money because
the show goes on till the end of the contract.
Forget when when next May?

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah, well none of this makes sense.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Is this is this sending a you a message to
Trump that we're behind you.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Well, I mean, you know, they all the late night
folks were, you know, kind of banding together. They even
had them on Colbert Stuart and John Oliver showed up,
and Fallon and and Myers and and and even Andy
Cone you know, showed up as well, and uh, it

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was just like just nuts. It was just amazing how
much support they had.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
And uh, yeah, they're all in the same boat. But
he's what what what what's happening? And censorship it's if
you don't if he doesn't like what you say, you know,
you're off the air.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Well censorship, Well, I mean I watched John Stewart on
on Monday, and and I was telling Neil before I
said I was watching the show, and he went into
a rant about the Epstein files for at least twelve minutes,
and then you knew that the drumlall was coming, and

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that you know, he's the executive producer of the Colbert Show,
by the way, you know, John Stewart So anyhow, so
about about twelve minutes in he started, you know, ranting
about Colbert and the show and how you know, basically
you said, it's like it's bribe. You know, the paramount's

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paying him sixteen million dollars for a lawsuit that's not
even considered it. Basically they even paramount said that it
was it was a nothing burger. I mean, you know,
it wasn't anything.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Well, in essence, they're not paying for the lawsuit, they're
paying off their Trump administration for approving.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
The with Sky Dance. Guy Dance is owned by the Ellisons,
and the Ellisons are maga happy. So in essence, CBS
could become the Fox. It's like this is this is
where we're heading on this. So anyway, John Seward then

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gets up from his desk and then he kind of
goes into the other part of the studio and he
started like preaching stuff like he's a preacher. And you
hear in the background the organ and then you hear
like beautiful voices, you know, and all of a sudden
he starts does this thing, does the preaching. You hear
the people in the background and like a Baptist choir,

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and the curtain opens and you see them in their robes,
you know, doing it, and all of a sudden, he
sings and this is what you can do, and he goes,
go f yourself, and he sings it. I don't know
how many times over that he's singing yourself. And I
was watching this and my mouth opened. I mean it
was free f words flowing, no censorship whatsoever. And I'm

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going and then he goes, I think, he goes, I, well,
I also work for this company, but I should be
all right, and then he, after a pause, he goes,
I think, so, I don't even know. So then Colbert
Kink comes on and then he does his spiel and
then he gets to the point where he goes, and
you know what you can go, you know, he says

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to all of this. He goes, you can go f yourself,
and you could pretty much hear it. They blurted the F,
but you can hear it. So here I'm watching both
of them just blasting, and I'm going and continually blasting,
and both The Daily Show and Colbert are continuing on
doing what they were doing before all of this. So

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then I'm checking a newsfeed this morning and I see
South Park put on their first episode after making a
deal with Paramount for one point five billion dollars for
fifty episodes, and the deal is signed. It's a sign contract.
Then they go on to do this episode of South Park,

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which they held back. It was supposed to originally go
on the ninth, but I guess they held back till
they signed the contract because that would make sense, right,
because they're very smart and uh So, anyway, the show
follows Trump as he finds himself in crisis when his
South Park supporters turned on him over Jesus entering the

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education system. After being depicted shimming through a White House
lawn party, the President finds himself on a call which
concludes with him threatening to sue people of South Park
for five billion dollars. Okay, And what happened was they
he speaks to them, and then they say, we'll settle

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for three million. And so they thought they got, you know,
got a good deal the South Park people by three
millions because it was five billion. And then part of
the deal was they have to do public service announcements
for Trump and they produced an actual, you know, deep

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fake PSA that you have to go online and find
it because I cannot even explained. It's it's it's insane,
you know, it's they have Trump, you know, going to
bed with Satan sort of. You know, it just brings

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me back to like the Late Night like two thousands. Uh.
It just was incredible and it's uncut and it's just
something you have to look at because there's nothing I
can say about it other than you gotta watch it.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
It's it's our demand, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Probably or on Paramount plus, you know, I'm surprised you
I don't. I don't. I honestly don't know how they
have gotten away with it thus far to put that
on like that, And I know there's gonna be blowback period.
Except the problem is if they cancel South Park, then

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they can sue Paramount for one point five billion dollars.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
But I wonder if there's some sort of course in
their morality clause, which they have a lot of the
at least a lot of the Hollywood picture plate picture
people have the morality cause I don't know.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
I mean, at this point, I doubt whether Madstone Tree
Park or would would do that. I mean, it would
be insane because if you know the South Park show,
you know that would be impossible. I mean, he's done.
They've done, you know, just look at Also, they did
a movie called Team America with puppets, and it was

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another insane if you can catch Team America, that's where
they had the famous song America f yeah and goes
through a whole thing was going on at the time, America,
Team America. That's another one. And it's puppets. It's actually puppets,
and it's crazy. It is just nutty cuckoo beyond anything.

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And so you know what's going on now is just
you know, you have Scotis, you know, making decisions from
deep shadowed dockets that they don't even present in their
opinions the law. They just sign a one page order
letting him do whatever he wants, and that's okay. You know,

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we're really living in a bubble right now, folks. I mean,
I just if people got to like crack through the bubble,
you know. So anyway, I can't believe we're at the break,
but here we are. So we'll be back with more fun.
Please come back, and we'll maybe hit some actual environmental
stuff and lost stuff and well maybe not, I don't know.

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Stay tuned.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Hudson River radio dot com.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
This is Hudson River Radio dot com.

Speaker 5 (20:37):
Hudson River Radio dot com.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
This is Hudson River Radio dot com. Hello, we are back.

(21:09):
We're back. We're back to talk more about kind of
the state of the world or the media environment and more,
because we can just go on and on and talk
for hours at this point about what's going on in
the state.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Of what's going on. I just read where Thailand has
bombed Cambodia's.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
How exciting, And I forget why I didn't look at that,
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at Tmshades of Green and on Blue Sky at Tmshades
of Green dot bsky dot Social. So we were talking

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about South Park. We were talking about Colbert being canceled
three days after he mentioned that the deal with Paramount
was Trump's way of getting a was kind of a
was a bribe in a sense, because there's a merger

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deal happening and they need the Trump administration to okay
this deal with sky Dance. But as Neil pointed out
during the break, canceling shows CBS seems to be the
one they canceled.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
What show was that, Neil, Can you come on Mothers Brothers? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Why you remember why?

Speaker 5 (22:33):
I think in general they had come out quite against
the Vietnam War, and both I guess on the show
and and off and and they were at the time
the highest rated show on the network too, if I recall.
So it really makes no sense that they would say, oh,

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it's financial if it's the highest rated show on your network.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Said the first one to have Pete seeger Backer was banned, Well.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
He was banned because Edward R. Murrow was was was
also kind of canceled off because he was talking about McCarthy.
And so there's seems to be a pattern here, right, Neil,
It seems to be a pattern.

Speaker 5 (23:21):
I'm seeing something like that. And I'll go a step further,
and it seems to be that the pattern leans the
right is the one suppressing and yeah, censoring the you know,
any opposition, right, Well.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
I mean, you know, it's not something I didn't expect,
because he basically implied it. What's happening. This is all
happening in plain sight. It's not being hidden, it's not underground,
and it's right in front of everyone's nose, you know,
I mean right up right up out at you. And

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because of the barrage and the pace of everything happening,
you don't know how to swat it. You don't know
how to get it. And they are tacticians and doing
this is like I have to give them props for
doing that, to give you know, he's manipulating. I mean,

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you know, he's a he's a he's a con artist.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
And con Republican Party.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
The Yeah, well, I think to me, what's scariest is
control of the Supreme Court and the fact that they
back up everything he's you know, asking for, including you know,
he he can do kind of whatever he wants. There's

(24:48):
no no stopping him and he uh. They write decisions
like a one page order with no explanation as to
why they did it. They would, you know, they let
go of three Democratic people who are in charge of
making sure that things that the department and things that

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were happening were healthy and you know, making sure that
you're the stuff you buy in a store is okay.
And think you know, they just went on and on
about just getting rid of these people, and it really
is Congress's you know, responsibility to do it. Yet the
Supreme Court puts a one page order saying no, he

(25:31):
can do it. He can do it, and just anything.
There's no rhyme or reason to these decisions. And you
know the three you know women on on aside from
Amy Conan wherever it is, Brian or something, uh, who
was starting to to to go a little more with

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it that, you know, to say, hey, I'm not sure
about this, but now not and the other women are
just like, what are you guys doing? What are you doing?
You're making one page decisions with no backup, no law attached,
no research, no explanation, and that, to me is the

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scariest thing. John Roberts is just just playing. You know,
when there was a State of the Union address and
Trump goes go goes over to Roberts on camera and
he's shaking his hand and you could see him saying
to John Roberts, thank you, yeah, good job. I I'm like, again,

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plain sight right there. There is nothing. They're not hiding
behind anything. It's just we are like evil, cruel people,
and good luck to you. I just don't know where.
I mean how much my mom would say you know
about rich folks. How much can you eat? You know,

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these billionaires, how many freaking planes and yachts? And how
much can they eat? And how many houses can they have?
I mean, what do they want more than what they
already have? What you're giving them tax relief and getting
sixteen seventeen million people off of health insurance. You're burning

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food that was already paid for to be distributed, like
five hundred tons of food or something, and they incinerated
the food instead of giving it to people who need it.
What what is your endgame there? What's the endgame? Am
I missing something? Now? Feel anybody?

Speaker 3 (27:44):
The endgame is? I am president? I can do anything.
What the hell I want?

Speaker 5 (27:49):
I know?

Speaker 3 (27:49):
I mean, I mean to take a look at him
signing these executive orders. He says, look what I do?
What can you know? Sign my name? Look a look
what I could do? Look what I could make law?

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Right?

Speaker 3 (28:00):
And everybody he.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Doesn't he's not I don't do not believe he's reading
anything he's signing. He's got you know, Miller and vo
Vo and and all these other guys writing this, all
this project twenty twenty five, the Heritage Foundation, this was written.
It's like a nine hundred page book that they are
literally going by page by page and doing at a

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rapid pace. So, as I said before, you can't you
you know how many they put so many balls up
in the court, you can't figure out where and how
to handle it or where to capt or how to
fight it. And the Dems really they need to fight
fire with fire man. They can't.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
That's some ridiculous things like he wants to reach change
your name from Kennedy Center.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Oh yeah, to Milonia. Perhaps that is he wants to
And then he said he won't let a contract for
a stadium go through Washington because he doesn't like the
name of the commanders of the Guardians, right, he wants
to change it back to the Redskins, which, by the way,

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Native Americans are being picked up on their land from ice.
Native Americans are being picked up on their tribal lands
from ice. Now, who was here first, guys.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
I mean, it's well Native American citizens, you know, of
course they are. Why they weren't born in the United States.
They were born in before we were in the United States.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
They were here first. Of course, they have tribal coo.
They have they have they have documentation what I mean,
that's silly. I mean, come on, I mean that.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
That's like, you know, you don't think what's happening now
with civil the way they make silly.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
It's not silly, it's it's tragic.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
As silly as what I just.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Said, it's tragic. There's a difference between silly and tragic.
What's going on now is tragic because this country has
now becoming authoritarian.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
And now I heard the big thing was the ice
is hitting the schools, the teenagers in the public schools,
you know, the high schools and junior high schools.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Well you knew that was going to come, yeah, because you.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Said the hardened criminals, right, well, they like you know,
you know, if you.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Want to go back to the Epstein files, they like
the young girls. I mean, what what are they doing?
But you know, they went into MacArthur Park, which is
famous the saw MacArthur's Park. It's at that's the same
park that they went in and they went on horses
and they they it was like a staging area for

(31:08):
a video of the National Guarden and the police and
the Marines. And they were kids in the kids in
a summer camp. They were in a summer CAMPFCE and
then and then they were trying to get some kids
in a in a park in uh on the Riverside
Park on the upper West Side. They were playing baseball.

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They're like junior high and high school playing baseball, and
they were starting asking them questions, where you know, what's
your name, who are your parents, where are they from?
And the coach, you know, he came in and he said,
you know, get the hell out, what are you doing?
And he sided another fourth Amendment, did this amendment to
that amendment, and they finally, you know, stepped away. But

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he told the kids, if you need to, you get
jump over that fence and you run and get away
as fast as you can. This is here in the
United States of America. They think we're nuts here in Europe.
I you know, I was just in the EU and
they don't even know what to make of it. They're
like they some of them feel bad for us. They

(32:16):
wanted to give me a hug. It's like, what the
hell is going on here? And you know I did.
But it was interesting to speak to the people and get,
you know, their take on what's happening from the other side.
And the take was that what we all are thinking
here with a half of brain that you.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
Know, this is this is crazy, you know, this is
this is not the America that we.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Is, not where we grew up in. This is not
you know, this is nineteen thirty nine Germany is what
this is. And I don't know. So it's craziness that's
going on. And we just there's so much that we
need to you know, expect.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Everybody with what he's doing, cutting back with the regulations exactly.
And then the weather.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Look at the.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
New York it's going to be as well.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
The field is going to be one hundred and ten.
So you know, there's just that there's going to be
another it's called a heat dome. Heat dome, right, we
want we want to go into heat domes. But but
what uh I found interesting in a positive note was, uh,

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there's an article in the Times that there's a hunt
one point three million lawyers in the United States and
only a small fraction of those are at those big
law firms that cowtowed a lot of them, that cowtowed
to Trump and their number that didn't, but a lot did.
And so the solo practitioners are banding together to protect

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democracy democracy via nonprofits like Democracy Defend Fund, and they're
handling immigration cases as well as the government employees who
lost their job under circumstances that a lot of cases
weren't legal. And a lot of them are former government
litigators and they stepped in to challenge the administration's agenda,

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and especially after the White House sought to punish many
of the big firms doing pro bono work. So then
there's other the pro bono litigation Corps, this guy Michael
Ansell and Morristown and Lawyers for Good Government. They give
twenty hours a week of time and they volunteer to
help people who are not getting due process. Who are

(34:40):
you know, having immigration issues, as I said, and I
think that you know right now, a lot of the
places are very leery of provoking the ire of the
leader here. And so twenty environmental, community and tribal groups
are suing to restore money that they were awarded already

(35:03):
but was lost after the EPA terminated the Environmental and
Climate Justice block grant programs. And so these lawyers, you know,
are as I said, they're working and that The New
York Times said there's four hundred lawsuits against the administration
and there's one of the you know litigators here is

(35:24):
this Gary D. Bianco. He's a retired litigation partner. Ne're
at Scattered Arps, which is one of the firms that
was kind of one of the first to give into this.
And there's a lot of birthright citizenship issues happening, and
which means like every immigrant that has a baby in

(35:46):
the US has to sue to obtained citizenship. But now
they're representing a lot of people that are trying to
get a class action. But the Supreme Court limited the
lower court judges from blocking executive branch policies regarding birthrights.
So it's it's just unreal. What is happening literally before

(36:07):
our eyes.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
And well they're doing with the birthrights are saying that
the local judges cannot do a blanket overall decision. Right,
So what's going to happen is someone in New York
or California, they could be citizens, but if they go
to another state they're not citizens. It's going to screw
up the.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Well if that, Yeah, this didn't happen yet, and they're
fighting it, and a lot of these people who are
fighting it are are again giving their time to try
to help. And there's one point three million lawyers. That's
a lot of lawyers. That's a lot of people, and
again not all of them are at these firms, you know.

(36:47):
So there's there's a lot of you know, good stuff
going on under the radar which we're not really seeing.
And I just you know, want to say that that's
important that people need to know that with all the
crap going on, people are standing up, and to me,
that's important. We have to stand up, you know, get up,

(37:10):
stand up, you know, stand up for you. All right,
we have to do that. We have to play that
song next week because we need to not give up
the fight, and because if we give up the fight,
we're all doomed.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
And following the lyrics of all those pop songs, that's
been a long, long fight. It always happens, except now
the right didn't have. The right has so much control.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Well, yeah, they control every branch of government and that
is the issue. And so these you know, they're going
to bring legal cases, and they keep bringing more legal cases.
Some of them have been successful and others are going
to The ones that are going up to the Supreme
Court is where the problem is. Of course, even the

(37:58):
appeals courts are saying you can do x y Z
and then they send it off to the Supreme Court
and Supreme Court goes, sure you can, but we're not
going to say why. I mean, the constitution says x
y z and they're not even executing on the constitutution.
It's like it's a piece of paper. Let's just use
it to wipe ourselves. I mean, what what do you

(38:20):
do at that point? What do you possibly do? Uh,
it's just unreal. It's just unreal. And I don't know
what else to say.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Ours.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
I'm flabbergasted, and I try to get the word out.
And we need the media to be forthright because the
media is slipping and the mainstream media doesn't even you know,
give give the right information or they suck off.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
Well, the mainstream media is doomed as they I think,
so talking about it, I think what is in twenty thirty?
You know most of the people aren't watching mainstream. No
I didn't watch it. Yeah, I mean I watch either
on the streaming stations.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
And YouTube is huge. YouTube is huge.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
The only thing I do is mainstream. As I see
that some of the old shows, uh well you.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Know there there's there's different channels. Is that the Met channel.
There's this channel where you can watch stuff like we
can watch from when we were growing up watching uh,
which maybe calms you a little bit, right, I know, Neil,
you like to watch some of that stuff. And uh
and my husband, my husband still tapes Superman. And by
the way, I heard I didn't see the new movie,

(39:41):
but I heard it's fantastic. I mean, I got I
have to see it. I don't know anyone who has
seen it who didn't rave about it.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Yeah, I've heard that.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
I don't know when I'm maybe and his son is Superman,
his son is playing it. My son is doing did
did he He did a cameo? Christopher? Is that are
you talking about his son? His son did? His son
works for ABC. He's like a reporter or something. And

(40:12):
the director gave him a cameo as a reporter in
the film, which is very sweet, I think. And Uh,
And I really want to see it because people will
come out coming out of it feeling hopeful. For some reason.
People coming in at I was like, we saw this,
we felt hopeful, and I'm like, we need Superman. We
need somebody. Neil, You're gonna be a Superman.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
I'm old enough to remember the original Superman on TV
with George's right, and I remember we'd be playing I
forget what it was, Tuesday night or Wednesday night. We
would be playing, you know, and then in the summertime,
we'd be playing in the streets and soon would go
six o'clock Superman time, and everybody would leave.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Right. Well, my husband tapes the old original Superman's so
he can watch them.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
Okay, And and I don't know.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
I don't know the actor who's playing Superman. I said,
it's terrific, but uh, Rachel Brosenham, the one who does
Missus Masel plays Missus Masel. She plays Lois, And they say,
the both of them.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Have you ever seen Missus the series?

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Sure, I have to rewatch that.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
I think about it.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
No, I saw it way before you told me about it.
But it's uh yeah, I gotta rewatch it. Too bad
it ended. But uh, she she plays Lois, which and
she's terrific, so I'm looking forward to seeing her in it.
And uh because I want to see it on the
big screen. You need it on the big screen. So anyway,

(41:43):
I'm gonna peace out. I think I've spoken enough. I
think we talked enough. I think we said enough. We'll
have to come back and talk again in in a
couple of weeks. And uh. In the meantime, people, you
gotta do stuff. You gotta get involved, Join a group,
join a organization if you can, protest if not, you know,
donate to the a c L. You donate to the

(42:05):
Brennan uh Center, Brendan for Justice, Brennan Center for Justice.
Donate to to George Plisners sive dot works.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
He he gives information about being a cecivic, you know,
using your ability to be to to to be a
person that knows about everything that you have to do
to be a good citizen. So there's there's and and
there's of course you know a lot of environmental groups
as well, you know, whether it be water dot org
or National Wildlife Federation or any you know, any organization.

(42:39):
So please, you know, join them or donate to them,
or join a protest if you can.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
But you can't sit back and do nothing and speak
to your local reps, send.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Letters, send emails, call their offices, be be a thorn
in their behinds. And uh, I don't know, we'll see
where the pendulum goes, but I hope it swings back
up because right now it's it's pretty low. So AnyWho,
I'm gonna sign off and say thanks for joining us
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(43:13):
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A shout out to Neil back there, who I cannot
ever do this show without.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
And by the way, Neil, you have a voice. You spoke.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Well. Of course he has the voice.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
I sure do.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
He's got an amazing voice. I wish you would come
on more. Next time you might have to be the
guest anyway. Also, thank you to Brian and Malcolm for
their help. Always remember to pick a shade of green
and raise your eco and social consciousness. I'm Maxi Margart
Rubin and we'll see you again next time.

Speaker 5 (44:01):
Yes, h this is Hudson River Radio dot com.