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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hudson River Radio dot Com.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello out there and podcast Land and beyond. I'm Maxi
Margart Rubin along with my co host Malcolm Berman. And
this is the Many Shades of Green, our program that
adds a dash of green into your life. As we
engage in conversations that move to inform, educate, activate, and
raise your eco and social consciousness through culture, politics, music, art, science,
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gardening and community, we hope to inspire you to pick
a shade of green and become a steward of this beautiful, blue,
green planet we call Earth. So Hi, Malcolm Mount in
Lala Land where where it is cool and high Victoria
where it's real hot here and and and and kneel
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out there. We're both at ninety nine degrees in New
York right now. Uh So it's summertime. And you know
when it's summertime, you have to hit the beach. And
in this case, we're going to be hitting Rockaway Beach
with the Ramones. So hit it, Neil what.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Sunny, Dad and.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I won't sun.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It's not falls.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
We need to rock to ride away bits.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I'm on the rod.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
On the radio.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Shot Rock.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Rock Rock is Shot Rock.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Rock Rock Rock Rock, bringing to it's not hard, not
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fall to reach.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Win it to Rozi, Rockaway Bitch.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
It's not hard, no fall to.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Win, rock away Man, Rockaway Beach. That's where we should
be today. This is like an homage actually to my
buddy Neil back there, who's a major Ramones fan.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Rockaway Beach is a song by the American punk rock
band The Ramones, was released in nineteen seventy seven, just
giving you some background from the band's third studio album,
Rock to Russia kind of apropos Now. The song was
written by Bassis d d Ramone in the style of
The Beach Boys, who we kind of featured last week
and early surf rock bands. The songs about Rockaway Beach
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and Queens, where lead singer Joey Ramone was raised. The
song was written by De d Ramone, who frequently visited
the beach. Johnny Ramone claimed that DEDI was the only
real beachgoer. I don't know if any of this is true,
but anyway, it was their highest charting single of their career.
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By the way, so says Wikipedia. So I hope Neil
you you know that. So as we said, it is
so hot, it's so hot out as summer is here,
schools out, surf's up vacations. Our people are going to
flocking to the beach, lakes, rivers to spend time in
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and near the water. We want the water to be
clean and swimmable, and so we must do whatever in
our power to keep our waterways and waterside areas clean.
You must recognize to not throw garbage, plastic bags, and
bottles into the ocean, rivers, streams. We have to limit
use of pesticides on properties in their beaches and inline
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forests and as well. Unfortunately, our oceans, lakes and rivers
are under threat and we have to step up and
be proactive. Every year, eleven million metric tons of plastic
enter the oceans. That's equivalent of dumping a garbage struck
of plastic into the sea every single minute, every single minute.
Freshwater sources aren't spared either. Pesticides, fertilizers and sewage runoff
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poison rivers and lakes, harming wildlife and threatening our drinking water.
Billions of people depend on clean water for food, health
and livelihood. So on today's podcast, we have Victoria Alzapdi,
our resident Garden Wildlife and Healthy Yards Guru, and we'll
discuss you know, climate change has a big part of
this as well, and people's actions and actually manufat actioning
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of those plastics is an issue, and so we'll talk
about global warming, pesticides and ways to educate people to
change their mindsets about manicured lawns, as well as some
summer gardening tips. If we can get all that, we'll
see how far we go. Victoria is co founder of
Newcastle Healthy Yards and is the chair of the Town
of Newcastle Conservation Board and a member of Westchester Climate
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Smart Community's Task Force. She's also a member of Friends
of Button Hook, which is working to save a twenty
point three acre forest in the town of Newcastle which
is a magical, magical place. In addition, she is co
founder of Newcastle Pollinator Pathway Coalition and started the Facebook
group The Nature of Westchester, an active community of nature lovers.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
How many now we are way above five thousand.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Now wow, we're drum roll baby.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Past our goal. Yes, very exciting. Victoria's continuing to build.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Good That's what we need to do. So the Tory
is also a native plant gardening consultant and coach coach
in other areas also, but you can get eco friendly
recommendations by planting at my native gardenerwastes dot com and
we'll talk. We'll give that again later. So I'm just
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gonna do a quick quote and then I'm gonna go
into my shade of green. So just give me a
sec here, because I saw this quote by David Attenborough,
which is very apropos. He's amazing. He's like way up
in his upper nineties and he is unreal. So he
said nothing is a waste in nature. Every leaf, every feather,
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every fallen tree feeds something else. We are the only
species that destroys and calls it progress.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
So hats off to his amazing nature ways. And he's
just amazing. So anyway, so I usually ask a shade
of green question, and I usually ask Victoria, you know,
throwing Malcolm, throwing Neil. But I'm gonna do a shade
of green today myself. So my shade of green today
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is Wicked Witch of the West green from the Wizard
of Oz. So this is what I have to say
about the weather.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
I now now.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Well not only was she melting, but the line what
a world?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
What a world?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Really hits what's going on? I mean, because right now
we're in just crazy, crazy times and uh, you know, wars, fires,
things that are going on that have gone on in
the past, and just repeat, you know, press the button,
it repeats, and we need to protect the earth in
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the middle of all this, and right now the administration
is just tearing it apart. So so what are we
going to talk about here today? We're going to talk
about climate change and what can we do? I mean,
where do we want to hit up first? I'll leave
it to you, Victoria. What what you know? We need
to protect? There's global warming and there's all sorts of
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stuff going on, So let's let's start out with that.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Yeah. Yeah, it's so sobering. And that's such a good
imagery of her melting. I mean it literally I was
out yesterday working with a client in their yard and
buying plants native plans to add and it was so high.
I literally I probably like lost five pounds just from
just you know.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, I hate to tell you guys in La it
was seventy degrees.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Right, It's upside down world. It's upside down world, right,
Well that's where.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
We're in now.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Completely feel better. We did have a small earthquake at
two point seven.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
All right, and that was on the Richter scale.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
What did you do? And that happened to be right
underneath my house?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Really we should have we should have either queued up.
There's a whole lot of shaking going on or I
feel the earth move under my face.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Which one feel the earth move under my house?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Right, two separate genres there, Okay, But so so I
know we're we're in this heat wave and we're hitting
temperatures that are crazy. Climate change is here, global warming
is here. I mean, what what what say you on
these here?
Speaker 5 (09:34):
We are?
Speaker 4 (09:34):
I mean, we're right, just the summer solstice just passed.
I mean this early. We know that sometimes, you know,
historically we'll have a heat wave of.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Lay, guys, it's fake news.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Fake news, right, of course, there's such a thing as
climate change. Right, we're breaking records. This is just you know,
it's it's scary, and it's scary because you know, to
your point, at a maxine at a time when collectively,
politically wise, we should be doing everything humanly possible to
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protect the Earth and to combat climate change and mitigate
it as much as humanly possible to slow it down,
and be coming up with resiliency strategies to figure out
what we're going to do. You know, as the oceans
get deeper, and as you know, sources of food become
impossible to obtain because vegetation is in shock right now.
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You know, when you're thinking about the shade of green,
I was thinking, the shade of green that keeps coming
to mind for me is wilting leaves. I mean, I'm
going around, I'm seeing all these wilting leaves, you know,
and that means that plants are going to die. You know,
plants can only take so much. And this is a
few consistent days of this really really intense heat, and look,
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and then we're going to what happens. It's a vicious cycle.
You start overwatering, then then we have to water to
keep them, and then what happens. Then we get into
a drought condition. So we have to really be careful
at finding the back of you know, not using too
much water, not using too much air conditioning. Right, I mean,
the power sources, everything collapses, literally collapses when things are
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so extreme. So I guess this brings you know to
your question, Maccine, what can we do? We really? I mean,
everyone always says you know, global is you know, take
action locally, right, right, I think globally, but act locally.
And so we really really need to do We really
have no choice any more than to do that. And
you know, you think about like Smoky the Bear when
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they used to say, have these commercials. I'm dating myself
but years ago. You know, only you can prevent forest fires,
but really only you can take action to mitigate what's
going on. And if we take collective action, we all know,
you know, sometimes it feels like if I do it,
you know, it's not going to make a difference, but
if everyone does it, it really does have an impact.
And so this question about you know, how do we
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reach people, I'm feeling more than ever that we have
to go to different sources. Right.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
So here we are.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
This is an amazing podcast. It's like a gift to
be with you once a month and.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
To talk about to have you can use, you know.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
And so you think, who's listening to this, Well, you know,
occasionally we may get a new person who's never been
on here and listening, but it's probably often people who
care about the environment, who think the choir the choir
right exactly, we have the choir and.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I've been busting my hub for decades. Decades, it's like
decades at this point to to get people to be proactive.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
So what right, So you're doing everything you can. I
really wrest you all are doing. This is a great,
great show, great podcast.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
You reach on to people, so you know, I think
to reach millions of people though, that's the issue, right.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Right, and you know it does mean okay, okay, I'm
going to be proactive when we had to have an
administration that goes did baby dig? You know they want
more oil produced, more gas?
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Right, that is true? And we can try through policy
and joining organizations that are working to combat that. Yes,
we can definitely do that political advocacy action, and we
can elect people who are going to make changes when
the midterms come. Every every election is important, etc. And
we can also do things as we always talk about
in our own yards. We can reduce the use of
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leaf blowers. They are spewing you know, gasoline and particulate
matter that gets into your lungs that never goes away.
You know that especially in the hot weather. Oh now,
leaf using a leaf blower and using a lawnmower, it's
hard enough to breathe it's hard. It's damaging enough to
little little kids to their lungs and people who have
respiratory conditions and asthma. We really have to stop doing
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things in our own yard effect. We just the Conservation
Board literally just did a piece on Facebook within the
past couple of hours about not mowing your lawn during
times like this, like a directive like, please do not
mow your lawn now.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I don't know how those landscapers can be out in
this today or yesterday. Yet two doors down for me
they were out. Yeah, how could you even? You should
just call them and say not this week? Guys.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
You know people aren't thinking, oh wow, we're all everyone's
self involved. It's a hundred degrees one hundred degrees up.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
His phone hit the one hundred degree mark here in Rockland.
And I don't know if west June.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Twenty fourth, June twenty fourth, it's not even July, folks,
it's not even July. So this does not vode well
for the rest of the summer. So at any rate,
you know, we have to be more responsible. We have
to have a wake up call. And how do you
reach people like I. I was working with someone recently
and I realized they didn't know a lot about all
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the things we talk about. All these things we talk
about week after week, they really didn't know. And I've
noticed that if you as as fatiguing it is for
us who know this information, you have to keep sharing
it because you know how any piece of information you
have to kind of hear it a few times for
it to really sink in. I think that's part of
our challenge. You know, like I spoke at the Rotary
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Club of Chappaqua a while back and reach those folks
and some of them were tuned in and some of
them weren't, and it built awareness, you know, talking to
chambers of commerce, talking to groups and libraries. I mean,
everyone should start thinking of themselves, not only in taking
their own action, but being ambassadors. Don't wait for someone
else to take action, right, I mean, yeah, you can
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send these podcasts to someone and that's great, and we
encourage you to do that. But take the two or
three pieces of information that you learn every time and
go share it. You know, talk to different organizations, talk
to parent teacher associations. I mean, get out there and
go to groups that are not focused on nature. Go
to large as large audiences, as you can reach. And
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we have Facebook, I mean fortunately there are a lot
of nature organizations that are putting information like this out there. Well,
invite your friends to those pages, right, get people on
Instagram pages that give daily information. So just think of
yourself as a strategist, you know, a conservation strategists think
about anything. You know, if you want to have an impact,
you have to have a few ideas to practically take
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action to move things forward towards progress. So pick whatever
you're going to do. Some people are quieter, you know,
more shy. They don't want to go in front of
a room and talk. Well, share some Facebook posts, you know,
something that you don't have to communicate verbally. Do whatever
works for your own style. And you know, make yourself
a goal, a weekly goal, a monthly goal. But we
are not going to make any progress until people really
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take action on their own behalf. And if we do that,
we can really make a change.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, I see on my own block, I've been trying
to get all my neighbors to comply with the leaf
blower band for gas leaf flowers. And while I've happily
seen some change, I see some of the landscapers using electric,
but I still see the guys using on two particular
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companies use gas leaf blowers, and I went over to one,
actually both of them, and I was like, what the
heck and and I put out something. I said, you know,
on our we have a in our block. We have
a list of everyone so we can send stuff and
support each other. And I said, look, you know these
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two companies, if you have them, they can't use this.
And and right now I'm happy that some of them
have complied, but now you know, you've got to talk
to these people. And I had, I got pushedback, I
got ucas.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
We have a major shift now in Newcastle. I don't
know if you saw the town board meeting a few
weeks ago. In the announcement, homeowners are now totally liable.
In other words, they have to they're responsible, just like
you're responsible for any contractor that comes into your yard.
If they do something against the law, it's your responsibility.
It's the same thing with leaf blowers now in our town.
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So if you're allowing those folks to use the flowers,
you're going to get a summons. I mean that basically
you are legally responsible. So people, if you're hearing that pushback.
Please remind folks not in a threatening way.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
But I was not ever threatening, and I was semi
I was talking pretty. I was pretty upset because the
guys were like blowing it and they weren't even turning
it off. And I'm saying, you know, what's the deal,
you know, and they don't give a flying leap, and
then I posted, you know, if these two companies. But
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the thing, the problem with this particular law now is
you know, people don't want to ride on their neighbors.
And that's a problem. They just don't want to that's
just the nature of it. And they're just caught up
in their lives and their work and their kids and
this and that, and it's like, don't you want your
kids to have clean air and their kids to have
clean air? It's not just me, you know, I'm the
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one on the block there. She is miss tree hugger,
and I'm like, I'm happy to be a tree hugger.
I love trees. I'll hug any tree. But if you
guys are you know, doing this, I have to speak up.
And you know, so far there there is some compliance,
which I'm happy about because there wasn't last year. So
I did get to some of them, which was good.
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But there's now two companies and and they're not small companies.
You know, they're not the small guys. These are the
bigger guys, and they're just trying to get away with it.
They're all trying to get away with it.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
No, I wonder if you could give a heads up
to the police department, even if you're not formally reporting,
because that you know, there has been talk like could
they can they be more cognizant. I mean, obviously they
have a lot of different priorities, especially some staff members
who are responsible for this, so they're you know, you
may want to talk to.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Those officers and be careful with what they're going to do.
Is they're going to bring ice in to it.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Well, no, we're very careful of that. Actually that came up.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
We don't want that. That's actually the.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Town board spoke about that. We're very being very sensitive
to that. This is not about the workers. They should
not be liable whatsoever. It's the corporate side. I just yeah,
you just want to make like that, Malcolm.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
But today, Yeah, there's no there's no way these guys
should have been out today. That's bad for their health.
They could drop. You're doing the law and there's one
hundred degrees outside, how do you how do you even
I mean, I don't know if the people probably weren't home,
but if you know, if they were and they let
these guys do their lawn.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
It's not a well regulated industry. There's a lot of autonomy,
you know. I mean, think about well, think about the
regulated industries. Think about working in a corporate setting where
you have laws that you have to comply with for health.
Even those laws are at stake right now, right, I mean,
we don't even have enforced those workplaces.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I have about the construction workers, the guys that were
building on the road, you know that work for the
city or the state, they continue working in this hot weather.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Same thing. Were no masks. I mean, I know I've
driven by. They're laying tar that tar those right right
into your lungs. Day after day. They do this and
they don't wear a mask. And if you ask them,
why don't you wear a message that's not harmful? So
that's a little bit also not to typecast, but a
little bit of the testosterone culture.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
No, the only the only time you get to wear
masks is if you're part of homeland security. Anyway, we're
at the break already. Oh my god. All right, well,
we got some good points in and we're gonna come
back with with more from Victoria's apiti about how we
can do things. You know what else is was happening,
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uh in the world of summertime gardening and uh so,
please stay tuned. We'll be right back after these messages.
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Speaker 2 (22:16):
H and we are back with Victoria al Zapedi to
talk more about like what we need to do to
be more sustainable, especially in our own properties, and uh
to take actions to care for the planet and mother
Earth and wildlife. You know, the humans aren't the only
species on this planet we think we are. That's that's
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the issue. Uh So, I encourage you to uh follow
us on the various social platforms Facebook, Instagram at Team
Shades of Green, check out our podcasts on all major apps,
and uh just uh get informed, you know, be proactive
in the environment. So let's get back to what we
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kind of need to do in our yards and what
you know what's the best practices, and you know it
is the summer also, so what advice infoe do you have?
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Yeah, so think about I mean the area that we
have most control of is our yards, and sometimes that
extends to our neighborhoods, our communities. So one thing I
love to mention to people in the summertime is, you know,
when you think about all the little wild creatures who
live around us, trying to do no harm, right, we
don't want to do anything that's going to endanger their lives,
that's going to hurt them. They're already feeling enough threat
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from all the climate change and all all the shifts
and weather. So one thing that you can do if
you have a pool is to get what's called a
frog log. So frog logs are basically little platforms teeny.
They're small platforms that you put at the edge of
your pool, like around the edge that lean right into
the water. And the little froggy is let's say froggy
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jumps into your pool and it's trying to get out.
It's you know, swimming around, but then there's no way
for it to access a way out right. It can't
get it can't jump out of the water onto back
onto the surface, but it can crawl onto a frog log,
right or do you.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Get a frog log? I mean how do you? I
mean where? What I mean? How would you get them?
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Usually order them online. There are some stores that have them.
They're harder to find in stores, but literally if you
search frog log, the one I'm thinking of is blue
and it's made of material really easy to install, not expensive,
And there are a bunch of other brands that will
probably come up to okay, and they work really well.
You put I would say, put like one at either
end of your pool. Two at least two, because you
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know it's if you have a long pool, it's hard
for the frog to get from one into the next.
So it saves so many lives, and honestly, I've heard
it also save the lives of chipmunks, So the same
thing with the chipmunk. And think about these animals. First
of all, they don't know that it's a chlorinated pool
or that it's a salt pool. They just think it's water.
Especially now, it's almost like a setup for these little
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creatures because they're thinking, I haven't seen a whiteland anywhere,
but I see your pool and it's easy to access,
so the chipmunks jump in, but they can't get out.
So a lot of people sadly wake up in the
morning and they find, you know, dead frogs, dead chipmunks,
dead squirrels. So please get a frog, get at least
one or two frog logs, and you're really doing a
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favor to all these little critters, and you'll feel much
better because no one wants to find a little dip frog.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah. I mean, there's some pools in my area. I'm
going to bring it up to my neighbor and because
they have a pool, I didn't even think. I would
never think about that if you hadn't mentioned it.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
But just a really nice gift. It's a nice gift too,
a gift so and it's it's you know, it's a
wonderful gesture for them and for nature and even your
local town pool. Like we don't have a town pool here,
but we dove a lot of like swim clubs that
people belong to, and there are some town pools in
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the nearby neighborhoods, so those should be definitely because it's
the same thing.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
And even when you go on vacation.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
I actually went on vacation to the Cape a couple
of years ago, and I asked, I was like, can
I give you Can I give you a frog log,
you know, because you have a pool and I'm sure
And they said they did have them, they didn't put
them out yet. It's like, okay, great, but put them out,
you know, don't just sit in your closet.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Right, you know, buy them and just leave them there.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Yeah, they have to be in the pool. So this
is an easy thing to do. Staying with the water theme,
I mean, just like we are thirsty, check out the
birds around you. I saw so many birds today. Their
beaks are open. And their beaks are open. It's a
respiratory sign of heat that they're trying to stay cool.
They need water, they need water. And so this is
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so early in the season. A lot of berries are
not ripe yet. So usually this weather would happen in
July August. That's when the berries on the shrubs are ripe,
and that's when they can eat the berries and it
gives them moisture. Right, But they don't have them now,
so we really have to come up with some climate
change strategies to compensate for that. So put out a
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water source. I mean, you know, it's so easy, whether
it's a little dish or you go get a bird bath,
put out water and you know, put some fresh water
in there, go out every day and just change it
because the heat. Also, the water can't stay too long
because then it has a lot of bacteria forming in there,
and stagnant water is no good exactly, and stagnant water
then attracts mosquitoes. So you want to change the water
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every day. They It is such a gift to the
birds and to other animals. They desperately need water right now.
And you can think, oh, well there's a stream nearby,
but you know, these animals only travel so far, and
if they live near your yard, you may be their habitat, right,
I mean an acre property could be a habitat for
an animal. It may not even go any anywhere beyond
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where you live.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
So aside from the birds and the bees, us older
people need water. Humans, yes, humans, because the thing is
you don't get thirsty. Maybe I realize it. You don't
have to drink when you get thirsty, but you're supposed
to drink.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Notice that we're both drinking, but Malcolm, you're not. Come on,
some water man.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
But the time you're thirsty, it's too late, right. But
time you're really thirsty, you're already starting to be dehydrated.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
I drink for breakfast. I have like thirty two ounces
of water.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Wow, that's a lot.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Big glass. Yeah, because I do my exercise after.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I've been drinking, I've been drinking more water. I've been
drinking my tea because you have to keep liquids, you know.
I'm hoping tea is okay too. But I'm not going
out really much. Yeah, I'm trying to stay in. You know. Also,
I got to keep an eye on the tiki talkie.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Because actually it doesn't really based on the heat. You're
supposed to do it anyway, any in any temperature. Of course,
when it's heat is worse.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Right, It's true. But it's true human be drinking water
and more.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Especially when you get older. They say a lot of
the problems with older people is dehydration.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Right, that's very true.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Systems start failing without enough water.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
It's true. You need to drink so our water.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Is even more important than ever, you know. And so
you were saying earlier, vaccine keeping the wetlands clean, right,
I mean, these pesticides that people are using. It's so
painful to see these pesticide signs. And then the next
day it rains, right, and then everything they put on
is streaming literally into the waterways. You know, I see
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them going into like the septic you know, the drainage
along the road. Where do you think that's going? You know,
it goes into a water.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
But yeah, so so they'll spray pesticides in it'll rain.
But then also they spray the pesticides and then they
come the next day to blow lawns.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Exactly, and then it's our air, our laws.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Getting in the air. And I don't understand how they don't.
People don't get that. It's so logical in your mind
to see, hey, there's a yellow sign on your lawn
and they're coming the next day to blow. Like, what
are you? What are you possibly thinking?
Speaker 4 (30:12):
We talked about this. There's so much misrepresentation. I spoke
with someone recently who said, you know, the pesticide company
doesn't tell them that mosquito sprays kill everything. You know.
I was talking to a person and I saw a
mosquito sign. I was like, you know, spraying mosquito gets
into the you know, it doesn't just kill the mosquitoes,
and they were like, really, does it kill fireflies? Yeah. Yes.
(30:33):
That was my next article about how the fireflies are
all dying. They may not even live to the next generation,
may never see a firefly again. And all those sprays
that are killing the mosquitoes are killing the fireflies. And
the mosquito spraes don't even work. You can't kill mosquitos
when they're flying around. You have to kill them in
the larval stage. And we talked about that putting out water.
To Malcolm's point, put out a little bit of stagnant
(30:55):
water and put a mosquito duncan. It's a harmless bacteria
that kills the larva. The mosquitoes lay their eggs and
they larva dies. It doesn't hurt anything else. It doesn't
hurt the ecosystem. Mosquito dunks.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Look it up.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Put them in your yard. Never ever spray for mosquitos.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
It does not.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
That's illegal abortions.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Well, you know, look, the ethical question. I'm just going
to say this really interesting. The the in the world
of biology research, there's a little ethical dilemma right now
because apparently there is a way that scientists have discovered
a way to eliminate mosquitos forever. And on the one hand,
someone they say, oh my god, that is great. I
(31:40):
can sit on my patio, I don't have to worry
about mosquitos. I can go to the beach. I'll never
get a mosquito bite again. But you know what, to
your point that David Attenborough quote that you shared earlier,
every single thing on this earth has a reason. So
those mosquitoes are a main primary part of a bat's diet,
right they fitos a night. A lot of animals, frogs, toads,
(32:04):
they eat mosquitoes. It's part of their diet. If we
eliminate I mean, think about the humans have the power.
This is such a fascinating human you know the harm
that humans can do. They have the power now to
eliminate a species from the earth. But we have to
be responsible about it. So we can't eliminate everything. We
just have to be smart about deterring, deterrence and doing
(32:25):
it in a safe way. Putting out fans on your
patio and it's really hot, and then the mosquitos are here,
the fans will keep them. Mondy put out some plants
that deter that have you know, very fragrant odors be
bomb other types of mint, so really try to not harm.
There's so much threat already. I mean, think about when
we were talking about the plants and that there aren't berries.
(32:47):
We're going to have to start planting native plants that
bloom at all different times of year. So rethink what's
in your yard. You know, if you don't have anything
with fruit right now, try to get plants for next year,
even this summer that have fruit on them sooner, because
there's going to be a need in addition to the
water bowl that you put out. They need sources of
(33:08):
food that have hydration. So start rethinking what you're putting out.
What plants you're putting out. More berries, more berries and berries,
berry plants that ripen all summer, So all kinds of shrubs,
different viburnum shrubs, dogwood shrubs, holly shrubs. You want to
get as many shrubs that produce berries. And be aware
(33:31):
that with some species like hollis, you have to have
a boy and a girl, right, So some plants have
a male and female flowers and they can pollinate on
their own. Other plants species need a boy plant and
a girl plant or else that they won't cross pollinate,
So get stuff in your yard, create a habitat. I
mean I drive by these properties, these houses, beautiful houses,
(33:54):
and they're surrounded by a lawn. There's not even a
plant to be seen. That is a hot of inhuman
you know, it's it's not congruent with life.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
I'm glad. It drives you. It drives me crazy. It
drives you crazy. How many other people doesn't drive crazy?
Because most people, again, they want that carpet, you know,
they want their carpet, a green carpet in front of
their house, versus any signs of like a meadow kind.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Of you know they should do is take out them
on and put artificial grass in.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
No, that's even worse because that that leak so.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Out, uh leeches, chemicals. All that turf, right.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
All that turf lees chemicals.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
A lot of.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
The baseball fields when schools use those.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
It's bad, dangerous.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
We tried to tell them here and not a good thing,
you know, you just and plus natural grass is just
great to play in, you know.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
And better to put trees up. I mean, get some shade.
We need shade more than ever. Shade is an natural coolant.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Right.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
So all these these houses that are being built.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
That he've been cutting down trees too.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Yes, they put on everyone listening to this, please put
on your agenda to add shade trees, Add trees. Add
some trees like red maple grow really quick. You can
put in like a six foot red maple. In a
few years it'll be, you know, twenty feet. Plant a
tulip tree. If it's a tall, tall tree, you have
to put it away from your house. It grows like
two or three feet a year. So get some trees
(35:28):
in your yard. It's gonna help combat climate change, it's
going to clean the air, and it's going to give
you shaved And tell your town to plant morshe there's
a lot of you know, tree cities. Now, let's get
and there are actually there are a lot of departments
of Environmental conservation across the country that give away free
trees at various times of the year. Usually it lines
up with Arbor Day. Look into those. There are a
(35:51):
lot of grants out there that your town can be
getting to get little baby trees. Plant them all over.
We need the trees, you know, And don't take down
a tree unless you really really need to, because you know,
when you take down a tree it releases the carbon.
So all these trees are literally you hear the term
sequestering carbon, it literally means that the trees are holding
on to the bad stuff and when you cut them down,
(36:14):
it releases everything was holding.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah, I had, you know, my block. Someone they just
put down these gorgeous tall trees, like three of them.
And now when I walk the dog, that hale side
of the block, which was shady, is now it's like
a heat zone. I can't even walk there. I'm not
sure why it was done, but you know, I don't know.
(36:37):
People have the thought that it's my property I can
do and I want. Well, yeah, it is your property,
and you can do what you want, but maybe think
about what you want.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
But we want butterflies. I was just thinking about this,
like we know, we've talked about it here many times, that
there are only certain native plants that are host plants
for butterflies. So at least think about how are you
going to help propagate beautiful butterflies. Butterflies can eat pollen,
and they can eat, but they can't pro create unless
they have the right plants. So anyone listening to this,
(37:11):
if you haven't heard it on this show, many many
times before plants some milkweed for the monarchs. Monarch butterflies
must lay their egg on milkweed species.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
I think I think there's a place in Georgia and
for Segusta where the monarchs I mean literally they're like
it seems like millions and they look like leaves on.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
The tree in Mexico, I know, down in.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Maybe it's Mexico.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Yeah, that's where they live over the winter, probably Mexico. Yeah,
and it's incredible, Malcolm, the pictures you've seen, they're all
over the trees on good years. Every year is a
little different.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
And what was amazing the guy who was curated there
with the keeper, and he showed one of the reporters,
you know, when the monarch fell down and it wasn't alive,
you know, because it was too cold. He said, pick
it up in your hand and blown it like artificial respiration.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Yeah, they need they needed fifty degrees.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
So the report of it might have been I figured
who it was. But he picked it up and he
started blowing it in his hands and all of a
sudden like a miracle.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Yeah, wow, they need fifty degree weather or they can't move.
So yeah, they literally blew life back in by giving warmth, isn't.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
That Yeah, yeah, that's that's amazing. So any any who,
So at this point, what can you do as a
wrap here? Uh for information for people and what they
can do.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
I continue to say, you know, look Healthy Yards, if
you're on Facebook or if you you know anywhere that
you can go on the web. Healthy Yards is a
national organization that talks all about a lot of these issues.
Great information. Another national entity is National Wildlife Federation. Great information,
a lot of habitat information, a lot of tips on
(39:06):
things to do. Again. The Zerce Society x r cees
focus on bees, pollinators. You know, you can also go
to well, you can go to Newcastle Healthy Arts, which
focuses locally. If you're in Westchester, there's Westchester Pollinators, a
great page. There's the Leave the Leaves organization. You can
(39:27):
go to their website. There's you know, of course, you
can go to my Native Garden Oasis, which is the
organization that I work with. Go to your conservation board pages,
find out you know, who's on your conservation board, get
information from them. You know, all of these nature groups,
garden conservancy, I mean, you know, there's so much going
on right now. Oh, wild Ones. Wild Ones is a
(39:50):
great national organization. They have a lot of local chapters.
There's one that just started in Westchester, really wonderful. Search
wild ones dot org. They do a lot of habitat work.
And the Autobon Society, I mean, the Autibon Society is
doing better, I think, more more advocacy work than ever,
supporting legislation, really working on you know, issues like we've
(40:13):
talked about bird friendly glass. You know, we talked about
how pesticides and rodenticides kill hawks, kill birds of prey,
you know, because the nice and the rats eat that's
that those were I denticides and then the birds, the
bigger birds eat them and they die. They're poison to death.
And the same with the foxes. So we want to
we want to, you know, spread the word and the
(40:35):
Autoborn Society is doing great work about them. The American
Bird Conservancy is wonderful. I mean, there's get your name
on some mailing lists. Just promise you you'll get great
updates and you won't be overwhelmed, but you'll get some
great update.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Please pick a group, start out with one even yeah,
and then become involved because the more the ranks fill
up in those organizations, the more power they have to
to get policy, you know, because there's in numbers is
what we need to produce to to let our legislators
know this is what we want. Yeah. And unfortunately on
(41:09):
the federal level, where in a really bad situation, a
lot of these groups you mentioned are gonna lose funding.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
I know.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Ah, so you gotta like, you gotta speak up. You can't,
you can't be silent. Silence is bad at this point.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
And if you can support I mean, I know, you
know we're not all wealthy people, but even five dollars,
I mean, some these places that are losing their funding
as you're talking about, Maxine, they are, they are being
decimated and a little donation goes a long way. And look,
you're right about the politicians. They want your vote. They
want your vote to tell them what you want them
(41:46):
to do, and then you know, tell you're not going
to vote for them unless they focus on these environmental issues.
You know, it's really really important critical.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
So people step it up. As they say, step it.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Up, how do the election go to? Uh, they don't
have it yet, Yeah, it.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Won't have It won't be till after nine And since
it's we have an election here for mayor in New York.
I'm not sure the one hundred and two degree weather
is going to be helpful.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
What does that aligne in that?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
I mean? God? Uh so, but they have it's it's
called that now it's called it's uh. They listed there's
like five you can you can your choice in order
of who you like is and there they're they're using
ranking the ranking right, so you can you could go
(42:35):
for you know, one person, and then your second choice
and your third and fourth. So I think it's gonna
take longer to figure out, Malcolm, So we'll see what happens. Anyway,
it's uh one hundred and two as we're kind of
closing out here in New York City and in Rockland,
and it's almost one hundred here where we are in Westchester.
(42:55):
So I'm hoping we get to cool down, folks.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
So just again, uh, stay indoors.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Stay inside and uh and just drink a lot of
uh evening. Yeah you gotta you know, we don't want
to blow the system. Yeah. Anyway, Uh, Victoria, thank you
so much as usual for giving such amazing information. Uh
and we need to just keep speaking out and thanks
(43:24):
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and stay inspired, and remember to pick a seade of
green and raise your eco and social consciousness Maxie Margart
(44:08):
Rubin and we'll see you again next time.
Speaker 5 (44:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello out there and podcast Land and beyond. I'm Maxi
Margart Rubin along with my co host Malcolm Berman. And
this is the Many Shades of Green, our program that
adds a dash of green into your life. As we
engage in conversations that move to inform, educate, activate, and
raise your eco and social consciousness through culture, politics, music, art, science,
(00:46):
gardening and community, we hope to inspire you to pick
a shade of green and become a steward of this beautiful, blue,
green planet we call Earth. So Hi, Malcolm Mount in
Lala Land where where it is cool and high Victoria
where it's real hot here and and and and kneel
(01:06):
out there. We're both at ninety nine degrees in New
York right now. Uh So it's summertime. And you know
when it's summertime, you have to hit the beach. And
in this case, we're going to be hitting Rockaway Beach
with the Ramones. So hit it, Neil what.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Sunny, Dad and.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I won't sun.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It's not falls.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
We need to rock to ride away bits.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I'm on the rod.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
On the radio.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Shot Rock.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Rock Rock is Shot Rock.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Rock Rock Rock Rock, bringing to it's not hard, not
(02:19):
fall to reach.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Win it to Rozi, Rockaway Bitch.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
It's not hard, no fall to.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Win, rock away Man, Rockaway Beach. That's where we should
be today. This is like an homage actually to my
buddy Neil back there, who's a major Ramones fan.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Rockaway Beach is a song by the American punk rock
band The Ramones, was released in nineteen seventy seven, just
giving you some background from the band's third studio album,
Rock to Russia kind of apropos Now. The song was
written by Bassis d d Ramone in the style of
The Beach Boys, who we kind of featured last week
and early surf rock bands. The songs about Rockaway Beach
(03:09):
and Queens, where lead singer Joey Ramone was raised. The
song was written by De d Ramone, who frequently visited
the beach. Johnny Ramone claimed that DEDI was the only
real beachgoer. I don't know if any of this is true,
but anyway, it was their highest charting single of their career.
(03:29):
By the way, so says Wikipedia. So I hope Neil
you you know that. So as we said, it is
so hot, it's so hot out as summer is here,
schools out, surf's up vacations. Our people are going to
flocking to the beach, lakes, rivers to spend time in
(03:49):
and near the water. We want the water to be
clean and swimmable, and so we must do whatever in
our power to keep our waterways and waterside areas clean.
You must recognize to not throw garbage, plastic bags, and
bottles into the ocean, rivers, streams. We have to limit
use of pesticides on properties in their beaches and inline
(04:10):
forests and as well. Unfortunately, our oceans, lakes and rivers
are under threat and we have to step up and
be proactive. Every year, eleven million metric tons of plastic
enter the oceans. That's equivalent of dumping a garbage struck
of plastic into the sea every single minute, every single minute.
Freshwater sources aren't spared either. Pesticides, fertilizers and sewage runoff
(04:35):
poison rivers and lakes, harming wildlife and threatening our drinking water.
Billions of people depend on clean water for food, health
and livelihood. So on today's podcast, we have Victoria Alzapdi,
our resident Garden Wildlife and Healthy Yards Guru, and we'll
discuss you know, climate change has a big part of
this as well, and people's actions and actually manufat actioning
(05:00):
of those plastics is an issue, and so we'll talk
about global warming, pesticides and ways to educate people to
change their mindsets about manicured lawns, as well as some
summer gardening tips. If we can get all that, we'll
see how far we go. Victoria is co founder of
Newcastle Healthy Yards and is the chair of the Town
of Newcastle Conservation Board and a member of Westchester Climate
(05:23):
Smart Community's Task Force. She's also a member of Friends
of Button Hook, which is working to save a twenty
point three acre forest in the town of Newcastle which
is a magical, magical place. In addition, she is co
founder of Newcastle Pollinator Pathway Coalition and started the Facebook
group The Nature of Westchester, an active community of nature lovers.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
How many now we are way above five thousand.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Now wow, we're drum roll baby.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Past our goal. Yes, very exciting. Victoria's continuing to build.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Good That's what we need to do. So the Tory
is also a native plant gardening consultant and coach coach
in other areas also, but you can get eco friendly
recommendations by planting at my native gardenerwastes dot com and
we'll talk. We'll give that again later. So I'm just
(06:18):
gonna do a quick quote and then I'm gonna go
into my shade of green. So just give me a
sec here, because I saw this quote by David Attenborough,
which is very apropos. He's amazing. He's like way up
in his upper nineties and he is unreal. So he
said nothing is a waste in nature. Every leaf, every feather,
(06:40):
every fallen tree feeds something else. We are the only
species that destroys and calls it progress.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
So hats off to his amazing nature ways. And he's
just amazing. So anyway, so I usually ask a shade
of green question, and I usually ask Victoria, you know,
throwing Malcolm, throwing Neil. But I'm gonna do a shade
of green today myself. So my shade of green today
(07:13):
is Wicked Witch of the West green from the Wizard
of Oz. So this is what I have to say
about the weather.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
I now now.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Well not only was she melting, but the line what
a world?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
What a world?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Really hits what's going on? I mean, because right now
we're in just crazy, crazy times and uh, you know, wars, fires,
things that are going on that have gone on in
the past, and just repeat, you know, press the button,
it repeats, and we need to protect the earth in
(07:54):
the middle of all this, and right now the administration
is just tearing it apart. So so what are we
going to talk about here today? We're going to talk
about climate change and what can we do? I mean,
where do we want to hit up first? I'll leave
it to you, Victoria. What what you know? We need
to protect? There's global warming and there's all sorts of
(08:16):
stuff going on, So let's let's start out with that.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Yeah. Yeah, it's so sobering. And that's such a good
imagery of her melting. I mean it literally I was
out yesterday working with a client in their yard and
buying plants native plans to add and it was so high.
I literally I probably like lost five pounds just from
just you know.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, I hate to tell you guys in La it
was seventy degrees.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Right, It's upside down world. It's upside down world, right,
Well that's where.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
We're in now.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Completely feel better. We did have a small earthquake at
two point seven.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
All right, and that was on the Richter scale.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
What did you do? And that happened to be right
underneath my house?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Really we should have we should have either queued up.
There's a whole lot of shaking going on or I
feel the earth move under my face.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Which one feel the earth move under my house?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Right, two separate genres there, Okay, But so so I
know we're we're in this heat wave and we're hitting
temperatures that are crazy. Climate change is here, global warming
is here. I mean, what what what say you on
these here?
Speaker 5 (09:34):
We are?
Speaker 4 (09:34):
I mean, we're right, just the summer solstice just passed.
I mean this early. We know that sometimes, you know,
historically we'll have a heat wave of.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Lay, guys, it's fake news.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Fake news, right, of course, there's such a thing as
climate change. Right, we're breaking records. This is just you know,
it's it's scary, and it's scary because you know, to
your point, at a maxine at a time when collectively,
politically wise, we should be doing everything humanly possible to
(10:03):
protect the Earth and to combat climate change and mitigate
it as much as humanly possible to slow it down,
and be coming up with resiliency strategies to figure out
what we're going to do. You know, as the oceans
get deeper, and as you know, sources of food become
impossible to obtain because vegetation is in shock right now.
(10:26):
You know, when you're thinking about the shade of green,
I was thinking, the shade of green that keeps coming
to mind for me is wilting leaves. I mean, I'm
going around, I'm seeing all these wilting leaves, you know,
and that means that plants are going to die. You know,
plants can only take so much. And this is a
few consistent days of this really really intense heat, and look,
(10:48):
and then we're going to what happens. It's a vicious cycle.
You start overwatering, then then we have to water to
keep them, and then what happens. Then we get into
a drought condition. So we have to really be careful
at finding the back of you know, not using too
much water, not using too much air conditioning. Right, I mean,
the power sources, everything collapses, literally collapses when things are
(11:11):
so extreme. So I guess this brings you know to
your question, Maccine, what can we do? We really? I mean,
everyone always says you know, global is you know, take
action locally, right, right, I think globally, but act locally.
And so we really really need to do We really
have no choice any more than to do that. And
you know, you think about like Smoky the Bear when
(11:31):
they used to say, have these commercials. I'm dating myself
but years ago. You know, only you can prevent forest fires,
but really only you can take action to mitigate what's
going on. And if we take collective action, we all know,
you know, sometimes it feels like if I do it,
you know, it's not going to make a difference, but
if everyone does it, it really does have an impact.
And so this question about you know, how do we
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reach people, I'm feeling more than ever that we have
to go to different sources. Right.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
So here we are.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
This is an amazing podcast. It's like a gift to
be with you once a month and.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
To talk about to have you can use, you know.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
And so you think, who's listening to this, Well, you know,
occasionally we may get a new person who's never been
on here and listening, but it's probably often people who
care about the environment, who think the choir the choir
right exactly, we have the choir and.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I've been busting my hub for decades. Decades, it's like
decades at this point to to get people to be proactive.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
So what right, So you're doing everything you can. I
really wrest you all are doing. This is a great,
great show, great podcast.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
You reach on to people, so you know, I think
to reach millions of people though, that's the issue, right.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Right, and you know it does mean okay, okay, I'm
going to be proactive when we had to have an
administration that goes did baby dig? You know they want
more oil produced, more gas?
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Right, that is true? And we can try through policy
and joining organizations that are working to combat that. Yes,
we can definitely do that political advocacy action, and we
can elect people who are going to make changes when
the midterms come. Every every election is important, etc. And
we can also do things as we always talk about
in our own yards. We can reduce the use of
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leaf blowers. They are spewing you know, gasoline and particulate
matter that gets into your lungs that never goes away.
You know that especially in the hot weather. Oh now,
leaf using a leaf blower and using a lawnmower, it's
hard enough to breathe it's hard. It's damaging enough to
little little kids to their lungs and people who have
respiratory conditions and asthma. We really have to stop doing
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things in our own yard effect. We just the Conservation
Board literally just did a piece on Facebook within the
past couple of hours about not mowing your lawn during
times like this, like a directive like, please do not
mow your lawn now.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I don't know how those landscapers can be out in
this today or yesterday. Yet two doors down for me
they were out. Yeah, how could you even? You should
just call them and say not this week? Guys.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
You know people aren't thinking, oh wow, we're all everyone's
self involved. It's a hundred degrees one hundred degrees up.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
His phone hit the one hundred degree mark here in Rockland.
And I don't know if west June.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Twenty fourth, June twenty fourth, it's not even July, folks,
it's not even July. So this does not vode well
for the rest of the summer. So at any rate,
you know, we have to be more responsible. We have
to have a wake up call. And how do you
reach people like I. I was working with someone recently
and I realized they didn't know a lot about all
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the things we talk about. All these things we talk
about week after week, they really didn't know. And I've
noticed that if you as as fatiguing it is for
us who know this information, you have to keep sharing
it because you know how any piece of information you
have to kind of hear it a few times for
it to really sink in. I think that's part of
our challenge. You know, like I spoke at the Rotary
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Club of Chappaqua a while back and reach those folks
and some of them were tuned in and some of
them weren't, and it built awareness, you know, talking to
chambers of commerce, talking to groups and libraries. I mean,
everyone should start thinking of themselves, not only in taking
their own action, but being ambassadors. Don't wait for someone
else to take action, right, I mean, yeah, you can
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send these podcasts to someone and that's great, and we
encourage you to do that. But take the two or
three pieces of information that you learn every time and
go share it. You know, talk to different organizations, talk
to parent teacher associations. I mean, get out there and
go to groups that are not focused on nature. Go
to large as large audiences, as you can reach. And
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we have Facebook, I mean fortunately there are a lot
of nature organizations that are putting information like this out there. Well,
invite your friends to those pages, right, get people on
Instagram pages that give daily information. So just think of
yourself as a strategist, you know, a conservation strategists think
about anything. You know, if you want to have an impact,
you have to have a few ideas to practically take
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action to move things forward towards progress. So pick whatever
you're going to do. Some people are quieter, you know,
more shy. They don't want to go in front of
a room and talk. Well, share some Facebook posts, you know,
something that you don't have to communicate verbally. Do whatever
works for your own style. And you know, make yourself
a goal, a weekly goal, a monthly goal. But we
are not going to make any progress until people really
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take action on their own behalf. And if we do that,
we can really make a change.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, I see on my own block, I've been trying
to get all my neighbors to comply with the leaf
blower band for gas leaf flowers. And while I've happily
seen some change, I see some of the landscapers using electric,
but I still see the guys using on two particular
(16:58):
companies use gas leaf blowers, and I went over to one,
actually both of them, and I was like, what the
heck and and I put out something. I said, you know,
on our we have a in our block. We have
a list of everyone so we can send stuff and
support each other. And I said, look, you know these
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two companies, if you have them, they can't use this.
And and right now I'm happy that some of them
have complied, but now you know, you've got to talk
to these people. And I had, I got pushedback, I
got ucas.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
We have a major shift now in Newcastle. I don't
know if you saw the town board meeting a few
weeks ago. In the announcement, homeowners are now totally liable.
In other words, they have to they're responsible, just like
you're responsible for any contractor that comes into your yard.
If they do something against the law, it's your responsibility.
It's the same thing with leaf blowers now in our town.
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So if you're allowing those folks to use the flowers,
you're going to get a summons. I mean that basically
you are legally responsible. So people, if you're hearing that pushback.
Please remind folks not in a threatening way.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
But I was not ever threatening, and I was semi
I was talking pretty. I was pretty upset because the
guys were like blowing it and they weren't even turning
it off. And I'm saying, you know, what's the deal,
you know, and they don't give a flying leap, and
then I posted, you know, if these two companies. But
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the thing, the problem with this particular law now is
you know, people don't want to ride on their neighbors.
And that's a problem. They just don't want to that's
just the nature of it. And they're just caught up
in their lives and their work and their kids and
this and that, and it's like, don't you want your
kids to have clean air and their kids to have
clean air? It's not just me, you know, I'm the
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one on the block there. She is miss tree hugger,
and I'm like, I'm happy to be a tree hugger.
I love trees. I'll hug any tree. But if you
guys are you know, doing this, I have to speak up.
And you know, so far there there is some compliance,
which I'm happy about because there wasn't last year. So
I did get to some of them, which was good.
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But there's now two companies and and they're not small companies.
You know, they're not the small guys. These are the
bigger guys, and they're just trying to get away with it.
They're all trying to get away with it.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
No, I wonder if you could give a heads up
to the police department, even if you're not formally reporting,
because that you know, there has been talk like could
they can they be more cognizant. I mean, obviously they
have a lot of different priorities, especially some staff members
who are responsible for this, so they're you know, you
may want to talk to.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Those officers and be careful with what they're going to do.
Is they're going to bring ice in to it.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Well, no, we're very careful of that. Actually that came up.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
We don't want that. That's actually the.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Town board spoke about that. We're very being very sensitive
to that. This is not about the workers. They should
not be liable whatsoever. It's the corporate side. I just yeah,
you just want to make like that, Malcolm.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
But today, Yeah, there's no there's no way these guys
should have been out today. That's bad for their health.
They could drop. You're doing the law and there's one
hundred degrees outside, how do you how do you even
I mean, I don't know if the people probably weren't home,
but if you know, if they were and they let
these guys do their lawn.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
It's not a well regulated industry. There's a lot of autonomy,
you know. I mean, think about well, think about the
regulated industries. Think about working in a corporate setting where
you have laws that you have to comply with for health.
Even those laws are at stake right now, right, I mean,
we don't even have enforced those workplaces.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I have about the construction workers, the guys that were
building on the road, you know that work for the
city or the state, they continue working in this hot weather.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Same thing. Were no masks. I mean, I know I've
driven by. They're laying tar that tar those right right
into your lungs. Day after day. They do this and
they don't wear a mask. And if you ask them,
why don't you wear a message that's not harmful? So
that's a little bit also not to typecast, but a
little bit of the testosterone culture.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
No, the only the only time you get to wear
masks is if you're part of homeland security. Anyway, we're
at the break already. Oh my god. All right, well,
we got some good points in and we're gonna come
back with with more from Victoria's apiti about how we
can do things. You know what else is was happening,
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uh in the world of summertime gardening and uh so,
please stay tuned. We'll be right back after these messages.
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H and we are back with Victoria al Zapedi to
talk more about like what we need to do to
be more sustainable, especially in our own properties, and uh
to take actions to care for the planet and mother
Earth and wildlife. You know, the humans aren't the only
species on this planet we think we are. That's that's
(22:37):
the issue. Uh So, I encourage you to uh follow
us on the various social platforms Facebook, Instagram at Team
Shades of Green, check out our podcasts on all major apps,
and uh just uh get informed, you know, be proactive
in the environment. So let's get back to what we
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kind of need to do in our yards and what
you know what's the best practices, and you know it
is the summer also, so what advice infoe do you have?
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Yeah, so think about I mean the area that we
have most control of is our yards, and sometimes that
extends to our neighborhoods, our communities. So one thing I
love to mention to people in the summertime is, you know,
when you think about all the little wild creatures who
live around us, trying to do no harm, right, we
don't want to do anything that's going to endanger their lives,
that's going to hurt them. They're already feeling enough threat
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from all the climate change and all all the shifts
and weather. So one thing that you can do if
you have a pool is to get what's called a
frog log. So frog logs are basically little platforms teeny.
They're small platforms that you put at the edge of
your pool, like around the edge that lean right into
the water. And the little froggy is let's say froggy
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jumps into your pool and it's trying to get out.
It's you know, swimming around, but then there's no way
for it to access a way out right. It can't
get it can't jump out of the water onto back
onto the surface, but it can crawl onto a frog log,
right or do you.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Get a frog log? I mean how do you? I
mean where? What I mean? How would you get them?
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Usually order them online. There are some stores that have them.
They're harder to find in stores, but literally if you
search frog log, the one I'm thinking of is blue
and it's made of material really easy to install, not expensive,
And there are a bunch of other brands that will
probably come up to okay, and they work really well.
You put I would say, put like one at either
end of your pool. Two at least two, because you
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know it's if you have a long pool, it's hard
for the frog to get from one into the next.
So it saves so many lives, and honestly, I've heard
it also save the lives of chipmunks, So the same
thing with the chipmunk. And think about these animals. First
of all, they don't know that it's a chlorinated pool
or that it's a salt pool. They just think it's water.
Especially now, it's almost like a setup for these little
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creatures because they're thinking, I haven't seen a whiteland anywhere,
but I see your pool and it's easy to access,
so the chipmunks jump in, but they can't get out.
So a lot of people sadly wake up in the
morning and they find, you know, dead frogs, dead chipmunks,
dead squirrels. So please get a frog, get at least
one or two frog logs, and you're really doing a
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favor to all these little critters, and you'll feel much
better because no one wants to find a little dip frog.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah. I mean, there's some pools in my area. I'm
going to bring it up to my neighbor and because
they have a pool, I didn't even think. I would
never think about that if you hadn't mentioned it.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
But just a really nice gift. It's a nice gift too,
a gift so and it's it's you know, it's a
wonderful gesture for them and for nature and even your
local town pool. Like we don't have a town pool here,
but we dove a lot of like swim clubs that
people belong to, and there are some town pools in
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the nearby neighborhoods, so those should be definitely because it's
the same thing.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
And even when you go on vacation.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
I actually went on vacation to the Cape a couple
of years ago, and I asked, I was like, can
I give you Can I give you a frog log,
you know, because you have a pool and I'm sure
And they said they did have them, they didn't put
them out yet. It's like, okay, great, but put them out,
you know, don't just sit in your closet.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Right, you know, buy them and just leave them there.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Yeah, they have to be in the pool. So this
is an easy thing to do. Staying with the water theme,
I mean, just like we are thirsty, check out the
birds around you. I saw so many birds today. Their
beaks are open. And their beaks are open. It's a
respiratory sign of heat that they're trying to stay cool.
They need water, they need water. And so this is
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so early in the season. A lot of berries are
not ripe yet. So usually this weather would happen in
July August. That's when the berries on the shrubs are ripe,
and that's when they can eat the berries and it
gives them moisture. Right, But they don't have them now,
so we really have to come up with some climate
change strategies to compensate for that. So put out a
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water source. I mean, you know, it's so easy, whether
it's a little dish or you go get a bird bath,
put out water and you know, put some fresh water
in there, go out every day and just change it
because the heat. Also, the water can't stay too long
because then it has a lot of bacteria forming in there,
and stagnant water is no good exactly, and stagnant water
then attracts mosquitoes. So you want to change the water
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every day. They It is such a gift to the
birds and to other animals. They desperately need water right now.
And you can think, oh, well there's a stream nearby,
but you know, these animals only travel so far, and
if they live near your yard, you may be their habitat, right,
I mean an acre property could be a habitat for
an animal. It may not even go any anywhere beyond
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where you live.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
So aside from the birds and the bees, us older
people need water. Humans, yes, humans, because the thing is
you don't get thirsty. Maybe I realize it. You don't
have to drink when you get thirsty, but you're supposed
to drink.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Notice that we're both drinking, but Malcolm, you're not. Come on,
some water man.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
But the time you're thirsty, it's too late, right. But
time you're really thirsty, you're already starting to be dehydrated.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
I drink for breakfast. I have like thirty two ounces
of water.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Wow, that's a lot.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Big glass. Yeah, because I do my exercise after.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I've been drinking, I've been drinking more water. I've been
drinking my tea because you have to keep liquids, you know.
I'm hoping tea is okay too. But I'm not going
out really much. Yeah, I'm trying to stay in. You know. Also,
I got to keep an eye on the tiki talkie.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Because actually it doesn't really based on the heat. You're
supposed to do it anyway, any in any temperature. Of course,
when it's heat is worse.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Right, It's true. But it's true human be drinking water
and more.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Especially when you get older. They say a lot of
the problems with older people is dehydration.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Right, that's very true.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Systems start failing without enough water.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
It's true. You need to drink so our water.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Is even more important than ever, you know. And so
you were saying earlier, vaccine keeping the wetlands clean, right,
I mean, these pesticides that people are using. It's so
painful to see these pesticide signs. And then the next
day it rains, right, and then everything they put on
is streaming literally into the waterways. You know, I see
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them going into like the septic you know, the drainage
along the road. Where do you think that's going? You know,
it goes into a water.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
But yeah, so so they'll spray pesticides in it'll rain.
But then also they spray the pesticides and then they
come the next day to blow lawns.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Exactly, and then it's our air, our laws.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Getting in the air. And I don't understand how they don't.
People don't get that. It's so logical in your mind
to see, hey, there's a yellow sign on your lawn
and they're coming the next day to blow. Like, what
are you? What are you possibly thinking?
Speaker 4 (30:12):
We talked about this. There's so much misrepresentation. I spoke
with someone recently who said, you know, the pesticide company
doesn't tell them that mosquito sprays kill everything. You know.
I was talking to a person and I saw a
mosquito sign. I was like, you know, spraying mosquito gets
into the you know, it doesn't just kill the mosquitoes,
and they were like, really, does it kill fireflies? Yeah. Yes.
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That was my next article about how the fireflies are
all dying. They may not even live to the next generation,
may never see a firefly again. And all those sprays
that are killing the mosquitoes are killing the fireflies. And
the mosquito spraes don't even work. You can't kill mosquitos
when they're flying around. You have to kill them in
the larval stage. And we talked about that putting out water.
To Malcolm's point, put out a little bit of stagnant
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water and put a mosquito duncan. It's a harmless bacteria
that kills the larva. The mosquitoes lay their eggs and
they larva dies. It doesn't hurt anything else. It doesn't
hurt the ecosystem. Mosquito dunks.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Look it up.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Put them in your yard. Never ever spray for mosquitos.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
It does not.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
That's illegal abortions.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Well, you know, look, the ethical question. I'm just going
to say this really interesting. The the in the world
of biology research, there's a little ethical dilemma right now
because apparently there is a way that scientists have discovered
a way to eliminate mosquitos forever. And on the one hand,
someone they say, oh my god, that is great. I
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can sit on my patio, I don't have to worry
about mosquitos. I can go to the beach. I'll never
get a mosquito bite again. But you know what, to
your point that David Attenborough quote that you shared earlier,
every single thing on this earth has a reason. So
those mosquitoes are a main primary part of a bat's diet,
right they fitos a night. A lot of animals, frogs, toads,
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they eat mosquitoes. It's part of their diet. If we
eliminate I mean, think about the humans have the power.
This is such a fascinating human you know the harm
that humans can do. They have the power now to
eliminate a species from the earth. But we have to
be responsible about it. So we can't eliminate everything. We
just have to be smart about deterring, deterrence and doing
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it in a safe way. Putting out fans on your
patio and it's really hot, and then the mosquitos are here,
the fans will keep them. Mondy put out some plants
that deter that have you know, very fragrant odors be
bomb other types of mint, so really try to not harm.
There's so much threat already. I mean, think about when
we were talking about the plants and that there aren't berries.
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We're going to have to start planting native plants that
bloom at all different times of year. So rethink what's
in your yard. You know, if you don't have anything
with fruit right now, try to get plants for next year,
even this summer that have fruit on them sooner, because
there's going to be a need in addition to the
water bowl that you put out. They need sources of
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food that have hydration. So start rethinking what you're putting out.
What plants you're putting out. More berries, more berries and berries,
berry plants that ripen all summer, So all kinds of shrubs,
different viburnum shrubs, dogwood shrubs, holly shrubs. You want to
get as many shrubs that produce berries. And be aware
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that with some species like hollis, you have to have
a boy and a girl, right, So some plants have
a male and female flowers and they can pollinate on
their own. Other plants species need a boy plant and
a girl plant or else that they won't cross pollinate,
So get stuff in your yard, create a habitat. I
mean I drive by these properties, these houses, beautiful houses,
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and they're surrounded by a lawn. There's not even a
plant to be seen. That is a hot of inhuman
you know, it's it's not congruent with life.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
I'm glad. It drives you. It drives me crazy. It
drives you crazy. How many other people doesn't drive crazy?
Because most people, again, they want that carpet, you know,
they want their carpet, a green carpet in front of
their house, versus any signs of like a meadow kind.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Of you know they should do is take out them
on and put artificial grass in.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
No, that's even worse because that that leak so.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Out, uh leeches, chemicals. All that turf, right.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
All that turf lees chemicals.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
A lot of.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
The baseball fields when schools use those.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
It's bad, dangerous.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
We tried to tell them here and not a good thing,
you know, you just and plus natural grass is just
great to play in, you know.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
And better to put trees up. I mean, get some shade.
We need shade more than ever. Shade is an natural coolant.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Right.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
So all these these houses that are being built.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
That he've been cutting down trees too.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Yes, they put on everyone listening to this, please put
on your agenda to add shade trees, Add trees. Add
some trees like red maple grow really quick. You can
put in like a six foot red maple. In a
few years it'll be, you know, twenty feet. Plant a
tulip tree. If it's a tall, tall tree, you have
to put it away from your house. It grows like
two or three feet a year. So get some trees
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in your yard. It's gonna help combat climate change, it's
going to clean the air, and it's going to give
you shaved And tell your town to plant morshe there's
a lot of you know, tree cities. Now, let's get
and there are actually there are a lot of departments
of Environmental conservation across the country that give away free
trees at various times of the year. Usually it lines
up with Arbor Day. Look into those. There are a
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lot of grants out there that your town can be
getting to get little baby trees. Plant them all over.
We need the trees, you know, And don't take down
a tree unless you really really need to, because you know,
when you take down a tree it releases the carbon.
So all these trees are literally you hear the term
sequestering carbon, it literally means that the trees are holding
on to the bad stuff and when you cut them down,
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it releases everything was holding.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah, I had, you know, my block. Someone they just
put down these gorgeous tall trees, like three of them.
And now when I walk the dog, that hale side
of the block, which was shady, is now it's like
a heat zone. I can't even walk there. I'm not
sure why it was done, but you know, I don't know.
(36:37):
People have the thought that it's my property I can
do and I want. Well, yeah, it is your property,
and you can do what you want, but maybe think
about what you want.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
But we want butterflies. I was just thinking about this,
like we know, we've talked about it here many times, that
there are only certain native plants that are host plants
for butterflies. So at least think about how are you
going to help propagate beautiful butterflies. Butterflies can eat pollen,
and they can eat, but they can't pro create unless
they have the right plants. So anyone listening to this,
(37:11):
if you haven't heard it on this show, many many
times before plants some milkweed for the monarchs. Monarch butterflies
must lay their egg on milkweed species.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
I think I think there's a place in Georgia and
for Segusta where the monarchs I mean literally they're like
it seems like millions and they look like leaves on.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
The tree in Mexico, I know, down in.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Maybe it's Mexico.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Yeah, that's where they live over the winter, probably Mexico. Yeah,
and it's incredible, Malcolm, the pictures you've seen, they're all
over the trees on good years. Every year is a
little different.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
And what was amazing the guy who was curated there
with the keeper, and he showed one of the reporters,
you know, when the monarch fell down and it wasn't alive,
you know, because it was too cold. He said, pick
it up in your hand and blown it like artificial respiration.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Yeah, they need they needed fifty degrees.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
So the report of it might have been I figured
who it was. But he picked it up and he
started blowing it in his hands and all of a
sudden like a miracle.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Yeah, wow, they need fifty degree weather or they can't move.
So yeah, they literally blew life back in by giving warmth, isn't.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
That Yeah, yeah, that's that's amazing. So any any who,
So at this point, what can you do as a
wrap here? Uh for information for people and what they
can do.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
I continue to say, you know, look Healthy Yards, if
you're on Facebook or if you you know anywhere that
you can go on the web. Healthy Yards is a
national organization that talks all about a lot of these issues.
Great information. Another national entity is National Wildlife Federation. Great information,
a lot of habitat information, a lot of tips on
(39:06):
things to do. Again. The Zerce Society x r cees
focus on bees, pollinators. You know, you can also go
to well, you can go to Newcastle Healthy Arts, which
focuses locally. If you're in Westchester, there's Westchester Pollinators, a
great page. There's the Leave the Leaves organization. You can
(39:27):
go to their website. There's you know, of course, you
can go to my Native Garden Oasis, which is the
organization that I work with. Go to your conservation board pages,
find out you know, who's on your conservation board, get
information from them. You know, all of these nature groups,
garden conservancy, I mean, you know, there's so much going
on right now. Oh, wild Ones. Wild Ones is a
(39:50):
great national organization. They have a lot of local chapters.
There's one that just started in Westchester, really wonderful. Search
wild ones dot org. They do a lot of habitat work.
And the Autobon Society, I mean, the Autibon Society is
doing better, I think, more more advocacy work than ever,
supporting legislation, really working on you know, issues like we've
(40:13):
talked about bird friendly glass. You know, we talked about
how pesticides and rodenticides kill hawks, kill birds of prey,
you know, because the nice and the rats eat that's
that those were I denticides and then the birds, the
bigger birds eat them and they die. They're poison to death.
And the same with the foxes. So we want to
we want to, you know, spread the word and the
(40:35):
Autoborn Society is doing great work about them. The American
Bird Conservancy is wonderful. I mean, there's get your name
on some mailing lists. Just promise you you'll get great
updates and you won't be overwhelmed, but you'll get some
great update.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Please pick a group, start out with one even yeah,
and then become involved because the more the ranks fill
up in those organizations, the more power they have to
to get policy, you know, because there's in numbers is
what we need to produce to to let our legislators
know this is what we want. Yeah. And unfortunately on
(41:09):
the federal level, where in a really bad situation, a
lot of these groups you mentioned are gonna lose funding.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
I know.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Ah, so you gotta like, you gotta speak up. You can't,
you can't be silent. Silence is bad at this point.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
And if you can support I mean, I know, you
know we're not all wealthy people, but even five dollars,
I mean, some these places that are losing their funding
as you're talking about, Maxine, they are, they are being
decimated and a little donation goes a long way. And look,
you're right about the politicians. They want your vote. They
want your vote to tell them what you want them
(41:46):
to do, and then you know, tell you're not going
to vote for them unless they focus on these environmental issues.
You know, it's really really important critical.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
So people step it up. As they say, step it.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Up, how do the election go to? Uh, they don't
have it yet, Yeah, it.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Won't have It won't be till after nine And since
it's we have an election here for mayor in New York.
I'm not sure the one hundred and two degree weather
is going to be helpful.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
What does that aligne in that?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
I mean? God? Uh so, but they have it's it's
called that now it's called it's uh. They listed there's
like five you can you can your choice in order
of who you like is and there they're they're using
ranking the ranking right, so you can you could go
(42:35):
for you know, one person, and then your second choice
and your third and fourth. So I think it's gonna
take longer to figure out, Malcolm, So we'll see what happens. Anyway,
it's uh one hundred and two as we're kind of
closing out here in New York City and in Rockland,
and it's almost one hundred here where we are in Westchester.
(42:55):
So I'm hoping we get to cool down, folks.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
So just again, uh, stay indoors.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Stay inside and uh and just drink a lot of
uh evening. Yeah you gotta you know, we don't want
to blow the system. Yeah. Anyway, Uh, Victoria, thank you
so much as usual for giving such amazing information. Uh
and we need to just keep speaking out and thanks
(43:24):
for joining us for the Many Shades of Green. For
more info and shows, go to Hudson River Radio dot com,
Malcolm Presents dot com and the Many Shades of Green
dot com. You can actually follow us on Facebook and
Instagram at Team Shades of Green and also we're on
Blue Sky. Uh. Please subscribe to our podcast on Apple, Amazon, Spotify,
(43:45):
Speaker and more. Big shout out to Neil back there
for all his help and getting all the stuff that
we ask. He's super duper uh. Also to Brian and
to Malcolm out in La La Land. So stay green
and stay inspired, and remember to pick a seade of
green and raise your eco and social consciousness Maxie Margart
(44:08):
Rubin and we'll see you again next time.
Speaker 5 (44:10):
Yes, Hudson River Radio dot com. M
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