Octopus's Plastic Garden w/ Charlotte Ghiorse

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hudson River Radio dot Com.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello out there in podcast land and beyond, Maxie Margot
Rubin along with my co host Malcolm Berman, and this
is the Many Shades of Green, a program that adds
a dash of green into your life as we engage
in conversations that move to inform, educate, activate, and raise
your eco consciousness through culture, politics, music, art, science, astrology,

(00:45):
community and more. We hope to inspire you to pick
a sheade of green and become a steward of this beautiful, blue,
green planet we call Earth. So I'm gonna say hi
to Malcolm Mountain, La La Land, and Charlotte Upstate and
Neil back in studio and nearby, and just welcome everybody.

(01:05):
I've been thinking about octopuses, uh, and you know there's
a definite connection to issues that they're having with plastic
in the ocean.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
But uh, yeah, plastics.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
But on that note, I wanted to bring in a
song uh by the Beatles featuring Ringo Starr, which is
called Octopuses Garden, So let's play that to start off today.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
I'd like to be under the scene in an Octopuses
garden in the shade he let us in knows where
we've been in his Octopusses Garden in the shade. Why

(02:01):
that's my frame, and come and see for a lot
of the purses of God with me.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I like to be.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
Under the seat in an oct passist God in the shade.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
We would be warm below the storm, in a little
hide away, beneath the waves, resting our heads on the
sea bed. In an octo Pussess garden. Hearricane, we would

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see and there's a rather.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
Because we know we coming down.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
I like to be under the seat in an oct
passist God in the shame.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
This is also a shout out because I wanted to
give a shout out to Ringo Star and wish him
he had his eighty fifth birthday the other day. He
still bops around the stage and plays the drums with
gusto and an example of how to live life to
the fullest and defeat agism because ageism is definitely a thing,

(03:27):
and the way he moves around is just it's unbelievable.
The song Octopuses Garden, while jovial and lighthearted at the
time of its writing, helps the spotlight in a roundabout way.
I continue discussions on plastic pollution and how it affects
sea life and oceans. Ocean plastic is a growing threat

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to octopusesm impacting their habitats, food sources, and even their
ability to survive. Octopuses are increasingly using human made trash
as shelters, which can expose them to hartful chemicals, harmful chemicals,
and potentially disrupt their natural behaviors. Plastic pollution can affect

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the availability of prey for octopuses such as crustaceans and
small fish by degrading their habitats or altering water quality,
and larger plastic items can entangle them, causing injury or death,
and it blocks their digestive tract and there, you know,
gives them major problems.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
I just I came across something I wrote.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Some notes for today, so this is a little out
of the note category, but I have to kind of
say it because it was very interesting to me that
this article popped up.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Because you talk to your phone and now it gets you,
it hears you, and it brought this up.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
It says the octopus alien theory suggests that octopuses are
so biologic unusual that they may have originated from another planet.
Here are some key points about the theory. I'm going
to name three here. Genetic uniqueness. Octopuses have a highly
rearranged genome with many genes that are not found in

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other animals. Intelligent behavior. Octopuses exhibit intelligent behaviors such as
problem solving, communication, and camouflage. Alien like appearance. Octopuses have
a unique alien like appearance with their bulbous bodies, long tentacles,
large eyes, and octopuses have a long and complex evolutionary history,

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with fossil records dating back three hundred million years. So
and that appearance is, you know, alien like right there,
They've got tentacle, they looked, and they can go all
the way down into the to the lowest depths and
it's freezing and survive. So with that, I just would
say if there's organizations that support scientific exploration, like Octopus Foundation,

(06:04):
oct Donation, which is the largest octopus fan club.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
You can join the fan club and that helps raizor awareness.
I can't speak today, folks.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Unfortunately I got the rona on a trip and it's
been a it's been fun Worldwidelife Fund also has adoptions
of octopuses and supports their global preservation efforts. So back
to plastics, we talk about it a lot, and it's
present in everything. We ingest microplastics on a daily basis,

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and it's in plastic water bottles, toothpaste, and so much more.

Speaker 6 (06:43):
So.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
On today's program, our masterful creator of art, ego, activist
and astrologists, Charlotte Gyorsey will give us some of her
thoughts and insights in plastic pollution, environmental issues astrology are
up coming art show in New York City called Relentless
Women and More.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
I'm so excited to talk about that.

Speaker 5 (07:07):
So Predicula when the Wimbledon this weekend, I.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Don't know, maybe astrology has that.

Speaker 6 (07:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
I'm not, you know, not a tennis person. So anyway,
so think of adopting an octopus and as per Ringo,
show some peace and love and that's all he always says,
goes with the peace sign, peace and love.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
Baby.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
So so Charlotte, welcome, welcome, so good to talk to you,
and I hope everything's okay up state Nueva York. So
we'll start with the green, like what's the shade of green?

Speaker 6 (07:42):
And now I decided today to pick like this this green,
what is it called?

Speaker 3 (07:49):
It's kind of a not a teal or something.

Speaker 6 (07:54):
But it's also like, there's another word for this. It's
in the It's in the family of like im moss.
You know, it's got the blue hues. Okay, so it
looks a little turquoisey, but it is definitely a little
bit lighter if you can see that lighter shade.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
It's cool. It's really nice.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
I like that sha my little golden mug, which reminds
me of living in a trailer park or something.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Well, as long as you don't have a golden toilet seat,
we're okay.

Speaker 6 (08:28):
So low red girl, So it's cool. So glad you're
feeling okay enough to do this today.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah, after the show probably hit my couch very hard.
But so, I mean we start.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
I mentioned you you have a show coming up in
New York City, and we're going to get there. I'm
going to be done with this and be able to go.
Uh So you want to the featured artists in this
art show called Relentless Women.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
You are a relent You are a relentless woman.

Speaker 6 (08:58):
Yes, and yes, I wanted to talk about the word relentless.
I mean, I guess I thought we were going to
talk about all the algae and stuff first, but you know,
we can talk about me because.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
I want, I want, I want to get this off
the top so people can hear it first.

Speaker 6 (09:09):
Well, I'm really glad to get this off the top
because guess what. Katrina Delmar, the woman who is running
the show. I have known her for thirty more than
thirty years, and so I've always tracked her. She is
a portrait photographer and made a film a long time
ago in twenty two thousand, sorry, called Gang Girls two thousand,

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which inspired me to make a film called every Woman
Is a Diva. And now I was a young mother
in twenty twenty oh one and she was running around
doing this tough chick cinema. She's kind of like the
Ross Meyers of lesbian filmmaker ism, and she has a

(09:54):
huge following of very you know, derogatory to use the word,
but she uses it dyke centric cinematography that is really brilliant,
and she packs all these people together and makes these
films really just about women and you have to see

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the film. And her big success recently was that Gang
Girls had a twenty fifth anniversary and screened at the
Museum of Modern Art in New York City. Two time fabulous,
and we were all just shaking in our little sneakers
because we were like right on, you know, because these
are radical women. I mean, all of us consider us
like you know, we didn't. I didn't grow up believing

(10:38):
that feminism was the thing until I was seven, Okay seven,
seven years old. I understood about feminism, but up until then,
I was really oppressed. Yes, I was a late it's true.
So my mom she was like low key, this like

(10:59):
really wild woman. And you know, part of my early
life was just zero stability in the home. And that
turned out to be the best thing for me because
as an artist, you have freedom. You're like, I don't
I'm not calling to anybody, nobody's paying me. I get
to go create things and then make money sometimes, but
mostly have the gratification of having fantasies fulfilled, having the

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job done. And so her whole theme behind the word relentless,
and first I thought relentless, that's a little heavy, but
then she has all these heavy metal female musicians. Gena Volpi.
Darryl LeVar is not a musician, but she's a terrific
actress and filmmaker and painter herself. And she's also a mother,
and I'd known her as well for almost thirty years.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (11:45):
So the word relentless speaks to how creative we all
are and how many diverse projects we do, you know,
like me making a garbage sculpture with then a film
or rap song ensconced inside the sculpture talking to you
and it's immersive. But then there's paintings. So she's pulling
us together for a painting show, but we're also screening films,

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and the word relentless is like, no matter what, we
keep creating. Because her theory, and I believe this is
still true, is that you know, we're not trained to
think for ourselves. We're always serving other people females, right,
And part of that is biological because we have children,
But the other piece of it is social and so

(12:31):
it's a breakdown of that social conditioning and just putting
us first. So I'm so grateful to be a part
of the Relentless exhibit, which opens July twenty third at
the Theater for the New City. And it's a big
gallery and also a film space, and I will be
streaming all of our films and videos on a small
TV set.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Wow, do you have an address for that?

Speaker 6 (12:54):
It's one fifty five East first Street, or I'm sorry,
fifty five First Avenue. Sorry, that's a big mistake. And
East tenth Street in the village at the theater for
the New City where all the things are going down.
It's a big mess over there, and it's so great, ye,

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so come out and meet all the people.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
We're going to come out of the public theater.

Speaker 6 (13:20):
It's a public theater.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
No, is it near? It not not far, but it's
it's a little way. It's it's south of the public Listen.

Speaker 6 (13:27):
It's between tenth and eleven on First Avenue, on the
west side of the street. It takes up a lot,
a large portion.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Of the block, not far from Venero. So you can
get good canola.

Speaker 6 (13:39):
Right around the corner from Venieri.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Venios readable Italian cheese cake and oh man, okay, my
husband is gonna be happy.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Boy.

Speaker 6 (13:48):
Yeah. Yeah, So it'll be a lot of fun, lot
of fun.

Speaker 5 (13:52):
But could you send some cheesecake over sure? Yes, sure,
I'm sure, I'm sure they send it.

Speaker 6 (13:59):
We should make you get some juniors from Brooklyn.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Right right, the boy gets to get back to Brooklyn. So,
speaking of food, we're going to talk about plastic stuff today.
Let's talk which one do you want to start with?
Okra and Venu Greek.

Speaker 6 (14:17):
Extracts or Greek, because man, that's talking about.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Food, so you might as well start with that.

Speaker 6 (14:24):
So so, I mean what I read in this article,
what was it called the Optimist Daily, right? Yeah, that
is genius optimists. That's me, man. I wonder if they're
all a bunch of exers. They must be, and probably
some millennials too thrown in there, and a couple of
boomers to hold up the purse. You know, the boomers
have the money.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
I'm a Joneser and me and Neil are Jones booming Joneser.
That's us, We're booming.

Speaker 6 (14:53):
They have the money. So anyway they're producing all the shows. Yeah,
so Okrah and Fenu Greek. I thought that was really
genius that they had put on a one to one
ratio microplastics and water, and within thirty minutes there was
a seventy percent efficiency ratio that popped up for clearing

(15:17):
the water, getting the microplastics out of the water. I
was like, what, so, it's like a natural vacuum and
this is not a far stretch from the thought I've
been having all along, which is eventually we'll find an
enzyme that we can ingest that will remove microplastics from
the blood. And I feel like we're on the past.

(15:40):
I mean, obra, I mean genius. It is just amazing.
I am like, where did they How did they know that?

Speaker 3 (15:49):
I don't know. We got smart people in this world.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
We just got to keep them right, We got to
keep them giving us all this information because there's there's many, many,
many people who really can help things.

Speaker 6 (16:01):
And I mean it's popping I just feel like all
these little things are popping up, and then eventually those
genius minds will connect and we'll be able to We
might not be able to get rid of the plastic,
but they can create plastic that's biodegradable and edible, and
they can figure out a way to vacuum it up

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or put it in a place where then it can
be reused, like that guy in Japan with the machine
that turns it into fuel oil. I mean, all these
things are like little stepping stones until we can calm
down the atmosphere and bring the temperature back down.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
You.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Yeah, the temperature. The temperature is rising, Yeah, temperature is rising.

Speaker 6 (16:40):
I feel lucky to live in Ithaca because Ithaca is
on the map now as like a stellar point to
visit for everybody around the world, Like people know about
us here and which is good for real estate. But
it's kind of being overrun by people that are not
from here. It's no longer that little farm town.

Speaker 5 (16:59):
It's very much.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah. Well it's got a couple of universities as well, So.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
Yeah, I know about its Cornell.

Speaker 6 (17:07):
Yeah, well, it used to be a lot more of
a farm town in the eighties and the forty years
since it has turned into a metropolis with giant high
rise apartment buildings that are not filled, and there's the
retail space is empty because it's prohibitive for any of
the people that live here year round. You know. The
only people that can really rent are like j Crewe
or Banana Republic or whatever. They can use it right

(17:30):
off and do a flagship store, you know. But anyway,
off topic, Yeah, so Okrah and Fenny Greek. Is there
a way to put it in to the ground, the air,
the water, and that's so exciting.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, it's just when I saw that, I you know,
it says.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Did they try different places, you know to put it
into different waters, because of course there's ocean water, there's
fresh water, there's lake.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Water, groundwater.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
They said Okrah was most effective in ocean water removing
eighty percent. Wow, Fenu Greek work best in groundwater with
removal rates between eighty and ninety and the Oprah fenyr
Greek combination show the highest efficiency in fresh water, removing
seventy seven percent, which is remarkable to tell you the

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truth that I was like, Holy moly, this is this.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Is really really something else.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
And the more I look for innovations in dealing with
the plastic issue, because it is obviously a huge, huge
problem right now, we keep seeing more and more things.
You know, We've spoken about a number of things, including
before on different podcasts, but we always like to repeat.
The scientists in Japan developed a non toxic plastic that

(18:49):
dissolves in seawater within hours, right We talked about that.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
I mean that, like I would like to know more
because I told somebody about that the other day and
he's a journalist and he was immediately saying, hey, well,
what do you mean it just biodegrades within thirty minutes?
Does it turn into water? Is it? Is it? What
do you mean? Does it change the pH does it?
Is it change the habitat? I mean, I guess those

(19:12):
are the questions that will be answered eventually were included
in that article. But at least, you know, glimmers of
hope are coming up through that.

Speaker 7 (19:20):
I think, is it one company that has a patent
on this or is it available to anyone?

Speaker 3 (19:25):
No, I think it's this particular Uh.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
The these scientists in Japan developed this non toxic plastic
that dissolves in seawater, and they've received significant interest from
the packaging industry over there.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
You know, biodegradable plastic doesn't.

Speaker 6 (19:43):
Say what the name of it is. It's just a
bunch of scientists in their beginnings.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Right Uh.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Ten Takudo Aida is one of the lead scientists, and uh,
we really have to look more into water it entails.
I mean, at this point, he just wanted to develop somethings.
He basically said, and he quoting him, it says children
cannot choose the planet they will live on. It's our
duty as scientists to ensure that we leave them with

(20:11):
the best possible environment. He's the research team leader and
these scientists, says we've had scientists on from the Union
to concerned scientists twice and they're just you know, right
here right in the US, we're having some issues. They're
having big problems. A lot of scientists are leaving. I know,

(20:33):
this is this pendulum is going to swing back though.
I mean it's it's at a low, but it's got
to swing back. So scientists around the world are are
constantly you know, working on things like this, and that's
what we want to hear. We want to That's why
it was in you know, Optimist Daily.

Speaker 5 (20:50):
You know it.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
They try to give us news that's different from what
we're getting in our mainstream media, which is.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
I don't even know anymore. I questioned some of that
as well.

Speaker 6 (21:03):
Yeah, yeah, well you have to. I mean, listen to me.
I feel really grateful that there's people that are on
the front lines doing this, and you know there there
clearly are so many more, so many more. I mean,
it just seems like there's countless articles about people cleaning
up the beaches and the ocean just freelance, you know,

(21:25):
like millions of pounds. But that is not gonna you know,
like we did. We need to do that for ten years,
do you know what I mean, It's got to be
it's gotta and then we have to just stop making plastic.
Using plastic is one thing, but we have to stop
making it, or maybe making this kind that is dissolvable
and turns into food. I mean, I'm like, what, that's

(21:47):
crazy there into food.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Well, strangely enough, when I was in college Brooklyn, Brooklyn College,
I would meet a friend of mine like once a
month in a McDonald for lunch. And I wasn't a
big fan of McDonald's. But she said, and I never
knew if this was true, that the milkshakes had digestive

(22:12):
plastic in them. I thought that her father worked for
the FDA.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
And told her that. So that's a source. But I
couldn't back that up. I can't really find it. I
don't know what that is.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
But if they're gonna try to clean up everything and
they're gonna have digestive plastic, maybe mcdonald'sho's ahead of the game.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
I don't even know. It's so weird. I never forgot
that that that statement. I thought she was like literally
pulling my leg.

Speaker 6 (22:41):
I'm like, I've also heard that in certain brands of
Parmesan cheese they put a little bit of wood dust.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Oh god, that's what I want wood dust in my cheese. Yeah,
but that kind of makes me feel like, whoa, Yeah,
that's that's some of the stuff that's in there.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
You can't you know, the processed foods are there's chemicals
that you can't even pronounce. Why should you be You
should not be eating stuff if you can't pronounce the name.
You know, that's it. You look at the first five
ingredients and that gives you what you really need to know.
And if it has stuff that you can't repeat quickly,

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don't don't eat it.

Speaker 6 (23:25):
No, I mean, I mean for real, for real, I
forgot to say though, Let's go back to Ringo star
for two seconds.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Oh sure, I love Ringo, go back.

Speaker 6 (23:35):
He is a cancer and to write a song about
the ocean. Cancer rules the ocean. Oh really cancer? Yeah,
isn't that fun?

Speaker 3 (23:45):
That's cool?

Speaker 6 (23:46):
Yeah. He must have known that because they were doing
they were going to the Maharishi and India and they
were doing all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Like, yeah they did. George was even more into that.

Speaker 6 (23:57):
Oh yeah, I mean, thank God for his spirituality. I
met him because he was a cinematographer and went to
England to help film the documentary about him. Wow, and
they and they were like, no pictures and he secretly
took a picture. Oh yeah, Well sometimes I can appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Sometimes you got to just do it.

Speaker 6 (24:21):
Well.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Now with your phone you can do it easily. Back
then it was like a camera, you know. I mean,
so they like at yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
I gotta get I got to get some of those
portable polar polaroids now that they're making or you know,
I don't know which one of the other Japanese companies
making it too, that you could have a polaroid picture.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
So I had a picture, you know, so I want
to I want to get that.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Uh have a couplet at my son in future daughter
in law's upcoming wedding nuptials, and I was thinking about
that camera. So I was looking to see if there's
any deals any.

Speaker 6 (25:01):
I don't know about cameras. I'm so abusive to my electronics.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
It's Amazon. They have everything.

Speaker 6 (25:07):
Like my camera broke and I'm devastated. But it had
too many Like every time I shot footage, I get
like sixty four gigs. So I had to get this
enormous hard drive. I have a sand disc right and
it has four hundred terabytes four terabytes of story. Yeah lots.
So I got that and I'm already half like I'm half,
I'm to five hundred already.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Oh man, that's you've been Wow. I viewed it.

Speaker 6 (25:30):
I use it. But let's talk about this in my
tea development. What is going on with that? Which one
that seemed the bubble wrap that turns air into safe
drinking water from Live Science, right, yep? And I was
just like, what is going on with that?

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (25:53):
That's those were the MIT guys, right, Yeah, they're the
ones who are coming up with this.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Again, this is the science that's in the schools that
they're trying.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
They're cutting back on it, and we need to keep
doing this because they're coming up with stuff that no
one would think about.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
I mean, how would you even think about looking doing that?

Speaker 5 (26:16):
Man?

Speaker 6 (26:17):
Like, let's just read this. M T researchers have created
a high tech bubble wrap capable of collecting safe drinking
water directly from the air, even in Death Valley, the
driest desert in North America. I wonder how long it
takes to make a glass of water? Probably eight hours,
let's start out there. Yeah, the new water harvester is

(26:38):
a major step in providing safe accessible drinking water, safe water,
no plastic in it, drinking water to people, drinking water,
giving okay, providing safe, accessible drinking water to people across
the globe, and works wherever you may find water vapor
in the air, Like I could install this thing in

(27:00):
my basement which is so humid. I mean, it seems
like it's doing a dual purpose. It's a dehumidifier and
giving you the nice glass of water.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
That's just like science fiction to me at this point.

Speaker 6 (27:13):
I love it. And it's so it's bubble wraps, so
you may even be able to use it for packaging.
There's I think I'm trying to do with this thing.
I mean, maybe you can also wear it is a
raincoat while creating a glass of water.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
I don't think mel I can get bubble wrap and
get some water out of there.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
I mean, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
I can't even I mean, I just can't conceive of
how that was even done. But we can talk a
little bit more about it because we heat, we hit,
we hit our little break point here, so we will
be back. There'll be station break with Charlotte Yorsey talk
more about plastic art, astrology and more So, please stay tuned,

(28:01):
We'll be right back. Hudson River Radio dot com.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
This is Hudson River Radio dot com.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
Hudson River Radio dot com.

Speaker 6 (28:23):
This is Hudson River Radio dot com.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
And we are back with Charlotte your See to talk
more about uh, these really cool environmental innovations coming up
with plastic. We're gonna hit on astrology and I guess
the state of the world is the state of the worlds.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
We'll see what it happens.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
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dot social. So we were talking about the the MIT
geniuses who came up with this bubble wrap, so let's.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Finish that up.

Speaker 6 (29:25):
I didn't see a name, but there are MIT researchers,
so you know they're smart. The journal, the Journal of
Nature Water published the article June eleventh, so I'm going
to go look at that. But the water harvester itself
is made from hydrogel, a highly water absorbent material that

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is enclosed between two layers of glass, much like a
window at night. The device absorbs vapor from the atmosphere
during the day, the water condenses on the glass thanks
to a coating that keeps the glass cool. The liquid
water then drips down the glass and is collected in
a system of tubes. That sounds doable. I imagine that

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we all get that thing in our portable. What is
it going to be called? That's so fun?

Speaker 7 (30:22):
My question is which, again, I don't know if it's
in the negative side of things, how many of the
scientists working on that and m I T are foreign
students working on a visa?

Speaker 6 (30:33):
Well, who cares? Well?

Speaker 5 (30:35):
Who cares because they might not be able to come
back to this country.

Speaker 6 (30:38):
Yeah, but we're in international communication. That is just not
an issue. Like at some point those types of things,
like when everything got shut down on the government, like
all the which paperwork was the most important that they
they they took down all of the credit for DEI

(30:59):
on the government websites, including Theanola Gay Heroic Women, Heroic
first first for black people in the military. They went
really for the jugular. But those documents are somewhere. It
doesn't disappear, It goes somewhere, and it'll be shared again
once that guy is out of office, you know. I'm convinced.

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I'm convinced. Let's touch one more thing about plastic here.
On that New York Times article about nanoplastics and plastic exclusion,
I was like, what is going on with this? They
are only doing a little like it was almost like fashion.
They're like, this is a free article about nanoplastics, and

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it's like, you know, this is like people are so
far past that, and I feel like you, Maxine should
write a letter to the editor of the New York
Times to tell them to get their gobbledegook together. Yeah,
because why the hell don't they know more? That is
so dumb. I am like furious with those people.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yeah, they they.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
It's supposed to be all the news that's fit to print,
but at this point, I don't know. That used to
be their motto there yesterday. I mean I was like,
so what, Like I just was reading this article.

Speaker 6 (32:21):
What was wasting the twenty minutes I'll never get back?
And it says, you know, there's a there's a giant
gyre plastic island of pollution floating in the ocean. It's like, well, well,
so what, yeah, we know that, So what's the point
twenty five milligrams of plastic per cubic meter. It's like okay,

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and then what you know, like there's no solution. It's
very doomsday the Times. And I was like, how come
they're so not knowledgeable? I just find that strange.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, I think they've they've hit you know, sometimes they'll
come out with something that that's good.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
I mean at this point, I read the Atlantic.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
Magazine.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
The Atlantic.

Speaker 6 (33:09):
That's all they care about is people.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
No Atlantic, No Atlantic magazine is this was the guy
who was on that chain that had the Atlantic magazine
was on the chain when they gave him the information
about the bombing of the hoodies.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
I mean, somehow his name.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Got in a chain with the Secretary of Defense and
the Secretary of State and all that.

Speaker 6 (33:33):
I remember that, And there was a little snapchat or
something exactly right whatever it was, when are you going
to bomb those guys?

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Right?

Speaker 2 (33:44):
But the but Atlantic magazine, I mean, that is to
me probably the best reporting right now if I had
to pick it.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
And uh, and and The Times is very disappointing.

Speaker 6 (33:59):
Shame on them. I just I'm like, come on, man,
I feel like, if when you have time vaccine and
you feel really aggressive and worthy, go for it. Tell them,
tell them all the things that we have found out
just casually looking at articles right about the environment, Like,
I'm like, wait, what is wrong with these people? This
is supposed to be the kreme.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
The New York Times. New York Time has gone, has gone.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
His newspapers anymore. You have to find a voice on
the internet.

Speaker 6 (34:29):
Yeah, so anyho, I just those are my two cents
about that. Let's not waste any more time. Let's t
let's talk about Trump.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Who Trump?

Speaker 6 (34:38):
And then astrology Trump.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
You better be brief because it'll make very brief. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (34:44):
Come, one hundred and fifty people are dead or missing
from that flood in Texas because why because he got
rid of people's technology.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
You got no, he got rid of and also people
six hundred people at the NAA. He doesn't he didn't
have FEMA come into three day. He wants to get
rid of FEMA and and and these are the people
that you need on the ground right now.

Speaker 6 (35:09):
Yeah, I'm curious.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
What is the n o A though, it's the National
uh Ocean and Atmospheric Association. And yes, it's the weather people,
right they they the guy who's taken over doesn't know
that hurricanes are reported. You know at least that's what
they I don't. You can't believe anything anymore. What's written

(35:33):
about anything.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
They caught.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
They caught, doge caught all these things. They caught the
weather reporting the They didn't have the alert system in
you know, you would like you would get you know,
when they have a tornado at three in the morning.

Speaker 6 (35:51):
These little kids needed to be woken up and brought
in buses away from that area. Right, they lost, like
the majority.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
The governor of Texas is to blame too.

Speaker 6 (36:03):
Eighty children. Yeah. So and then Trump like, there was
a rescuer. I forgot his name. I meant to look
it up, but if you go rescuer water rescuer. He
is part of the military. He saved like one hundred
and fifty people by himself and figured out how to
engineer getting them on mattresses, getting them out of the area,

(36:25):
just hands on carrying them, bringing them this and there,
and they're all freaked out. And thirty five of the
people that came to him perished. But he did say, oh,
I think the number was one hundred and sixty five
kids boutlers and so then but then Trump will turn
that twist that up into like look there's a hero, right,

(36:45):
So all the Trump supporters are going to be like, see,
it wasn't so bad because look there was that guy.
That's sure, Oh it's too bad for all those moms
and kids.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
There was also there was also a rescue dog fifty
four hours who also helped.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Save many many lives.

Speaker 5 (37:04):
Congruous about yeah, go ahead, sorry abbit who did it?

Speaker 7 (37:10):
The day after the uh, you know, the flooding, he
thanked God for being so lenient and didn't kill more people.

Speaker 5 (37:19):
Certainly was there before the grace of God? He also
talked why didn't he blame God for doing it?

Speaker 2 (37:27):
He also started talking completely insanely about Texas football Friday
night lights and how everyone gets together. And I was like,
are you literally out of your Gordon?

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Are you that? Are you that cruel and evil? Because
this is all cruel and evils.

Speaker 6 (37:46):
He's just like he's on the verge of calling those
little children losers. You know that that's his whole m
o is like people that are dead.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
You know that's something blame. I'm not sure I haven't done.

Speaker 7 (37:59):
It's people who had the warning didn't really take it
that seriously, because you know, it's sort of like when
the hurricane warnings. You know, on the East coast, people said, oh,
they always say there's going to be you know, great hurricane,
but it's not going to happen, so they don't prepare.
Back in the West coast over here, I would say

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like eighty percent of the population do not have supplies
for earthquakes.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Well, I was in another country and I have texts
on my phone from my area and the town Yeah,
basically said for your protection, moved to an interior room
on the lowest.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Floor of a building.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Large hail, damaging wind, and continuous cloud, severe thunderstorm watch.
This was I got this while I was away on
my phone.

Speaker 6 (38:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Now, I don't know what they do in the great
State of Texas to warn their people about all this,
because climate change is getting worse and these things are
happening more and more. So I don't even know how
to respond and how the government has completely dropped the ball.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
So this is where they are.

Speaker 5 (39:13):
They've been digging for more oil.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yep, more coal and more coal more so they can
make the the atmosphere look like it did in pictures,
like in the opening of The Blues Brothers. They have
Chicago and you could barely see Chicago because it was
full of pollution in that opening of that movie.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Next time you.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Watch Blues Brothers, you'll at least I noticed, oh, because
that's what I do.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
But I noticed that the opening scene.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Was literally Chicago being so polluted that and then it
got better because the rules went into effect to make
things better.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
And now they got rid of all those rules.

Speaker 7 (39:54):
That's what happened in La when they back Actually when
I first came here, like fifty years ago, they had
all these laws to change the gas.

Speaker 5 (40:05):
Emission. Now he dropped all the laws. California cannot have
separate laws or separate gas, right.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
It's absurd anyway. So we're gonna have to rap soon.
So I want to get in some astrology before we go.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
We'll do that.

Speaker 6 (40:22):
Let's do the astrology real quick. I mean Trump is
a Gemini. I want to just mention that Uranus in
the sky, the planet of excited, excitement and shock, just
went into Gemini. So it's likely that he will just
keep making these ruthless, crazy decisions and it's not gonna

(40:42):
get better for him. In his brain, he will continue
to create battles in his own camp. I think eventually
the man will be very deeply isolated and very troubled.
I like to call him at this point this month,
trumpel Stiltskin. Yeah. So Gemini, Gemini, Venus, and Gemini Uranus

(41:05):
together for the rest of the population Geminis, it's very pleasant.
It's almost like you have to face the disaster on
a daily basis because Geminis have a lot coming at
them right now, and so they all have to go woof.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
And it's like that.

Speaker 6 (41:22):
I have a Moon and Gemini, and every day I
get up and I'm like, where's the fire and I'm
on it. I'm just like whoo woo woom. So there's
a lot going on. It's a very exciting time. Stay hydrated.
If you're a Gemini and you're not Donald Trump, he
can just get dehydrated for all I care.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Because Jupiter is.

Speaker 6 (41:41):
In cancer, the sun is in cancer. This is a
great time environmentally for the ocean to heal. And I think, like,
if we think about it, dreams are It's a good
time to feed your dreams. This is actually the month
of Holy Optimism. That's what I like to call it,
because I'm having my second, wait, my fifth, my fourth,

(42:04):
Jupiter return and Jupiter is the planet of expansion, and
cancer is the ocean is your mother is the beginning
and end of life. There could be beginnings and endings
in your life if you have if you have a
lot of cancer in your chart somewhere. And also it's
a good time for show business. It's a good time
to be out there. So, I mean, those are things

(42:26):
that I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
No business like show business and Leo.

Speaker 6 (42:31):
Leo is next Leo. It's time to invest in your
friends and don't neglect your intellectual pursuits. Write that letter
to the editor at the New York Times. Yes, ma'am
it moving, that's your home.

Speaker 5 (42:46):
To see a copy of that.

Speaker 6 (42:47):
This work I want, I want it. I mean, I know,
just in a day you spit out like six pages
of really coherent notes that are very what is the word?

Speaker 3 (42:56):
They all make it even though I was in coherent.

Speaker 6 (42:59):
But yeah, like it all makes sense. You make great
connections all the time, So keep going and lean on
your friends a little bit more asked for help. Scorpio
or Virgo, go deep Mars is in Virgo. It's a
good time to really go deep and get centered around
the projects that you need to finish. There might be

(43:20):
an unconscious mind that is bubbling up right now, Like
you might be going to bed at night going like
what was I thinking?

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Wait, that's me mostly every night.

Speaker 6 (43:30):
Wait what was I thinking? No, but it's really intense
for virgos right now. But Mars and Virgo is also
a good time to keep track of the tally. Don't
do any unnecessary spending for the rest of the population.
Libra in the first express yourself. That's all I got
for Libra, Mars or Scorpio in the second house is

(43:51):
invest in smart products, meaning go after if you have
money to spend, go after the things that are gonna
bear fruit in the long run. Don't make stupid financial decisions.
And yeah, that's about it for scorp.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Neila, you escort your a Scorpio. No, what are you
next one Sagittarius Sagittarius?

Speaker 6 (44:18):
Okay, right, so next to Sagittarius sagitic you'll be attending
to the rock show on a daily basis. Don't forget
to call your brothers and sisters. Make sure that you
get some drumming practice in daily as well. You'll be
there to help you know. Uranus is directly opposite Sagittarius

(44:38):
in Gemini so there's a call in response. Crazy stuff
happens with people with a lot of Gemini and Urinus,
and then you're there at the other side of the room,
holding it down and helping those people stay grounded in
reality and helping them midwife be actual, real thoughts from
the delusional fantasy. So you're this is very important. You're

(45:01):
here to help us understand that we need to stay
grounded in reality.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Oh boy, Neil, you we need reality you yeah, well,
living in a reality show.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
But go ahead.

Speaker 5 (45:16):
That's one person before we leave. I never found out
do you believe in reincarnation?

Speaker 6 (45:21):
Me?

Speaker 5 (45:22):
I'm pointing, do you believe in reincarnation?

Speaker 6 (45:26):
Sometimes?

Speaker 3 (45:27):
I think that after we die?

Speaker 6 (45:29):
This is what I really think. This is the lowdown.
This is pretty heavy. Oh no, okay, it's really fun though, man.
I love being an astrologer. I think after we die,
we're still busy cultivating all the ideas and practices that
we had in real life, which is why it's important
to live well, think well, and discipline your mind. I

(45:52):
intend to go to you know, AA meetings when I die.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Okay, you know what I mean? Like, I'm still I
hear you.

Speaker 6 (46:02):
There's decisions to make after you go, but follow the
yellow light. That's what the Dali Lama says, yellow yellow light,
not the blue one. The blueellow. The blue one turns
you into ghosts. And that's okay too. You could be
a ghost. Then you just have to communicate with the
people that are living and they'll bene.

Speaker 5 (46:19):
That can be fine. I think s movie I saw you.

Speaker 6 (46:23):
There's so much programming out there we don't even have.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Yeah, we need to get into this more because this
is a lot of fun.

Speaker 6 (46:29):
Yeah, okay, well let's yeah. So that's Sagittarius here. Keep
to keep us grounded, please and talk about the government
in a realistic way. Full Moon in Capricorn today. So
Capricorn has a hard time. They beat themselves up a lot.
They need to not worry about indulging in guilty pleasures.

(46:52):
This is the one time they can relax, chill at
their home and their crib, kind of baby themselves a
little bit. Yeah it doesn't okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. My
question is, does matter always weigh the same? Matter matter anything?

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Does it always weigh the same?

Speaker 6 (47:15):
If it gets destroyed, does it weigh the same?

Speaker 3 (47:18):
I don't know. It's a good question.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (47:20):
Anyway, So that was my smart questions.

Speaker 5 (47:22):
I think nothing is said they've destroyed.

Speaker 6 (47:25):
I feel like that too. Okay, So that's my Those
are my thoughts about death and reincarnation. Pluto Inaquarius. Time
for some fun and don't dictate to people what they
should be doing. Okay, Yeah, because people who are aquarius
is with Pluto coming into Aquarius, they're in danger of
becoming dictators. Oh, don't buy it.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Just don't start that. I don't want to hear about dictators.

Speaker 6 (47:47):
But I have no no, none of that. Don't dictators.

Speaker 5 (47:52):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (47:52):
And so Pisces, you are here. The north note is
in Pisces, you are here to lead people to whereas
the golden gate of spirituality and help enlighten their brains
and help keep them focused on what they are actually
truly working on. And you, Malcolm, as a producer, are
probably really good at that. You probably help people find

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and define themselves.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
We'll go back in the sixties. I used to follow
Swami sat What and I did transcendental meditation. I still
don't I was.

Speaker 7 (48:27):
I was more into Buddhism, and I used to wear uh,
you know, the nehrew jackets, and I had love beads.

Speaker 5 (48:35):
Well, you went all out and longa heir. They used
to call me mah mahesh Malcolm.

Speaker 6 (48:41):
Oh no, no doubt. So that's still your job.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (48:46):
I think in years I might go back to that.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
Yeah, good idea. So okay, so we have two more
gotta rap these.

Speaker 6 (48:53):
Yeah fairies is impatient, as Geo d knows what I mean, Like,
they are so impatient they want like a result. So
their job is to figure out how to stay really
chilled out and feed the fantasy, but pay attention to reality.
Because Neptune and Saturn are both conjunct in aries in

(49:15):
the seventh thousand partnerships right now, and that is an
exciting time for aries. So if they have self esteem,
they know to just keep their trap shut until they
really need to talk. It's a good time for them
to kind of build a new structure and let go
of things that don't work. That's the business of having

(49:35):
Saturn on your son. Taurus is in the eighth house,
and I wrote, just relax, you know, to go back
to therapy and you know, tend to your immediate circle
and donate to the good causes. And that's all I got.
That's all I got for the astrology. Oh one more thing,

(49:56):
light blue, orange, pink, silver, gray and red.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Okay, good sounds good. Thanks for the report. We're on
the wrap now.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
We're gonna just quickly give us your info where people
can get to you, and uh and we'll just repeat
the show again and then we got to peace out people,
peace in love from ringos.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
So go ahead, yay, all right.

Speaker 6 (50:19):
You can find me at House of Choclet c h
O C L E T dot com, on and on Facebook,
on Instagram, and the dot com. My website as well.
Sexy Astrology dot com is coming back around, so that'll
feed into my web page where you can buy coffee monks. Yeah,

(50:39):
I gotta get one of those astrology schwag.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (50:43):
And on YouTube. And then also I'll be performing as
Charlotte Ghost, the comedian tonight in Binghamton, the other Hampton.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
She's she's doing her comedy tonight Binghamton.

Speaker 6 (50:59):
Big.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
That that is insane, that's that's incredible. You are you're are,
you are a relentless woman.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
For sure.

Speaker 5 (51:06):
Do a video video of it and I put it on.

Speaker 6 (51:10):
Yeah, send me one of the good ones I've got
like tonight is performance number fifty eight. I videotape every
single performance.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
All right, you got to send us one now someone
could put it up if you want. All right, So
again the show is Relentless Women. It's July twenty third
down in the village and we'll have that up on
my website. And just thank you for everything, Charlotte for

(51:37):
being so every month.

Speaker 6 (51:38):
That's the Yeast Village.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Okay, the Yeast Village especially you can get again we
mentioned Veneros. I have to plug them because they're so
delicious venereals. Venieris not Venario, but Veneros. Uh So anyhow,
also because Ferrara, because I'm gonna change I'm gonna just

(52:01):
change it up because we've got to get out, uh,
become an octopus advocate, join the Sea Discovery Center's Giant
Pacific Octopus habitat c and uh we got to make
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