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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hudson River Radio dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello out there in podcast land and beyond, and believe
it or not, there's another planet that might be inhabitable
and I think we all need to get there. Just
in the news today, I'm Maxi Margot. We've been along
with my co host Malcolm Berman, and this is The
Many Shades of Green, a program that adds a dash
of green into your life. As we engage in conversations
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that move to inform, educate, activate, and raise your eco
and social consciousness through culture, politics, music, art, science and community,
we hope to inspire you to pick a shade of
green to become a steward of this beautiful, bloom green
planet we call Earth. So Hi to Malcolm and Lala Land,
High to George and beautiful Portugal, and hi to Neil
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back in the studio end and welcome to the Many
Shades of Green. And there's a group, Green Day. It's
my favorite group, one of my favorite groups, and it
has green in it. So Billy Joe Armstrong is one
of my faves, and he played at Coachella this past
week weekend and he has a song called the American
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Dream is Killing Me. So let's get that up.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
American.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Try miscallabate snabam.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
That's all.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Else, let's get the serious bolt your family all.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Now, it's the.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Conte on dot tam.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
I'm grateful time off to dammer can try miscaliba damn
me can try miscalibate people the stream unemployed?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Absolutely, did you.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Ever the ransom note?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Don't on go hod on messes.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
TikTok tatis under all the best American is killing me.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Damn is killing me.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yep, the American dream is killing me. I don't know
if it's killing anyone else on this zoom that I'm
looking at. Uh, I think, yeah, Neil, definitely Neil George.
You're in Portugal, but you're American.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Well, the American dream is over here now.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Right, So he moved to He brought it there. So
I think Neil and Malcolm and I have to move
to Portugal. What do you think now?
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Yeah? I contacted Richard gear.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I think I'm going to move with Oh Spain. Okay.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
There was a thing on a sixty minute on Sunday night,
Sunday morning, Oh, okay about Malta.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Malta. Okay. I don't know much about Malta, but if
it's away from here, I don't mind. I don't mind
that any of that, but anyway, you know, everyone should
have the chance to pursue their goals and improve their life,
which includes personal and economic freedom like speech, owning property,
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starting a business. Because at this moment in time, the
American dream seems doa and the concept of the American
gam was rooted in the idea that anyone, regardless of
where they come from or what social class they were
born into, can achieve success and upward mobility through hard work, determination,
and initiative. And now I question that, I question whether
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it's accessible as the rising inequality, student debt, excessive health
care costs, medic barriers, or in place to reduce access
to programs that help Americans. And I wonder what's going
on with that because the current administration via Doge again
Doge not Dodge. Doge has a French flare, I keep saying,
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has taken out the chain saw to slash government workers, scientists, educators, immigration,
climate policy, and more, including defiance. They are completely in
defiance of Supreme Court orders, one of which directed the
release of Kilmar Garcia, who is an innocent of any
wrongdoing and was deported and isn't a prison in a
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horrible prison.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
That dog, It wasn't that.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
No, No, it's not not Doge dose. There was a
pause there. It's the administration that's doing this. Doge is
all part of this, as is Miller Musk. They're all complicit.
The the turn general is complicit. Uh anyone said, you
know complete? At this point, no one is safe as
the red Shirts who are using the tactics of the
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brown Shirts are scooping up citizens regardless of their legal status,
which means not even US citizens are safe from being stopped, questioned,
and even taken away for looking different or disagreeing with
the current regime. Because it is a regime. The American
dream is hanging by a thread for the sake of
future generations that cannot This cannot stand. It just cannot stand.
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So in today's podcast, we have a resident political analyst, environmentalist,
and I have to use the word curmudgeon because it's true.
George Paulisner, founder of SIEVEDT, works to give some insight
into the free fall of America into fascism. We are
hitting there, We're we're authoritarian already, that we are in
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constitutional crisis is happening right now as we're as I'm speaking,
So we're gonna go into those topics and discuss, you know,
what we can do, how far went in, how far
deep we are in all of this. We'll touch on
Harvard taking a stand. I mean, wow, that to me
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is a very very big move, and hopefully we'll turn
turn things a little around a bit. And then, because
as I said, Trump and the Brola Garch advisors, Miller
Mosk and the others continue to dismantle democracy and key
fittle agencies and much more so, we are in the
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many shades of authoritarian rule and total chaos. And I
don't know what to say at this point other than
we need to get ourselves out of this. And George,
let's quickly do a shade of green. And I know
you have a great poem. If you want to, you know,
do that first. It's up to you, So take it away, George.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Thanks, Thanks Maxine. Well my color You're always very good
about choosing a color of green. But I have to
say my color right now is darkness until this ends,
and tell the geop somebody rises and has the courage
to go twenty fifth Amendment to have the criminal elect
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removed or impeachment happens, and we're going to talk a
little bit about that because his actions have actually made
some strange bedfellows, and we'll talk. We'll talk if we
get to that, we'll talk a little bit about how
we are currently on the same side as a Cheney
and a Koch brother. And I never thought I would
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actually see that in my lifetime, but Charles Coke has
sued the Trump administration, actually his organization has sued the
Trump administration on the on what they believe is an
illegal implementation of tariffs due to an emergency on trade.
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And so so we'll talk a little bit about that,
and we're going to talk a little bit about how
tariffs work, how they what they what really happens, and
who pays for them, because there's a lot of intentional
confusion on that, and I suspect when people wearing red
hats figure out exactly who is paying for the tariffs,
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very similar to you know, Mexico paying for the border wall,
those folks wearing red hats are are not going to
be leaves I think with the criminal elect.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, I mean, there's just the barrage of this, the
amount that comes in through my news feed the notifications
I get every hour is just mind boggling. And this
is all planned.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
This was all pre nine hundred pages of the Heritage
Foundation Project twenty one five.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
That doesn't exist. That's not real. He'll never do that.
It's just talk.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yeah, well, I'm gonna I do have I do have
a quote for us from John Steinbeck, from the Grapes
of Wrath, and he said, in the West there was
panic when the migrants multiplied on the highways. Men of
property were terrified for their property. Men who had never
been hungry saw the eyes of the hungry, men who
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had never wanted anything very much, saw the flare of
want in the eyes of the migrants. And the men
of the towns and of the soft suburban country gathered
to defend themselves, and they reassured themselves that they were
good and the invaders bad, as a man must do
before he fights. Uh. And I'm really talking about the
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plight right now of what I considered to be state
sponsored kidnappings, the ice and whoever ice is contracted with,
taking people off the streets, throwing them into a van,
putting them on a flight to a prison in Al Salvador,
and against federal judges orders and now against a nine
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to zero, a unanimous Supreme Court ruling on this issue.
And so when you mentioned in the introduction about the
constitutional crisis, we are absolutely in a constitutional crisis. And
the reality is there is no American dream left until
it's predicated on the foundation of the rule of law.
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And if we do not have the rule of law,
there can be no dream.
Speaker 7 (11:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Yeah, Well, the funny thing was, you know, you're talking
about the nine zero Supreme Court decision. If you listen
to the right wing radio stations or TV stations, they're
saying was a victory. It's the same, Yeah, he says.
It says that they could deport them, but they don't
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say that before they're deported, they have to have a
try to due process. That's right, That's what they leave out.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
They leave out those two words pressed.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
They are right though. It is a tremendous victory and
you have to give it to the criminal elect because
how many times has this Supreme Court actually acted in
a unanimous way. He's unified the Supreme Court. The extremists
on the right, right and the left have come together
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to basically say this is this is I mean.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
When I read it. I went, Wat, that has to
be something to this that's not you know, I'm looking
at you know, wow? Really and then he basically I
said to my husband, I said, lest they're not gonna
He's gonna say a few I know it he is.
I mean, you know, I just I don't know. Someone
someone sent me a picture of It was the of
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Sesame Street and it was Bert and Ernie. People can't
see this, but it's a picture of Burt and Ernie go.
It says this message is brought to you by the
letters F and you. So I loved it. I just
loved that. I had to take a screenshot of that.
There was no way around it. But there, you know,
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I mean, there's so much going on, and I am
I mean, are you guys all stressed? Because if you
say no, I'm gonna go what I'm stressed. I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
I'm waiting for someone to knock on my door. Yeah,
was your Were your grandparents here from Russia?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
You know?
Speaker 6 (13:45):
Were there?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Illgally from Russia. But they're in with Russia. Russia is
off limits. They're not gonna bother you. They love Russia.
I wouldn't worry about that. You know, you're you're you're okay.
If you're from somewhere else, that's another story.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
I think my other my other grandparents from Poland.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Oh well, you know, if you get too hungry, you'll
be also fine. You know, no, no problem. But so
I just want to get to this because you know,
you did all these great notes, and I mean, Neil,
how are you feeling say yes or no that you're
going kookie bots He's he's shaking like no, he just
feels the same. So the question is I'm just to
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get this off on the top so people can hear
this is the extra care for self, friends and family.
How do we kind of cope with this before we
get into the really nitty gritty of like insanity here.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
I do think that that is incredibly important in terms
of being more patient with yourself and with others. I mean,
life is hard enough and challenging enough as it is,
as Thereau had said, the mass of men, but it's
really the massive people, the lives of quiet desperation. And
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I truly believe that buddy that is intelligent, sensitive and
aware of the happenings around them is going to be
incredibly stressed right now, not only in terms of the
challenges of life itself, but the criminal elect and the
challenges that he is making, the disruption and chaos that
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he is causing, really twenty four by seven, not just him,
but the people that he's unleashed, his syncophants, psychophants that
are just like Pam, bribe me, BONDI if the DOJ
and cash me this far.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Bar association on this see the buying a Supreme Court order.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
And you know, they issued an order at the DOJ
that they can no longer be members of the America.
They're withdrawing membership from the a BA because the a
BA has actually been very pointed in terms of the
issues with this administration. So not with not withdrawing from
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bar certification, but with drawing any kind of membership or
funding of the a B.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
A But they but they can dismart they can disbar them.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Oh yeah, technically yep.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And they could be held in contempt and thrown in jail.
They get.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
It's going to be a challenge because uh that is
the criminal contempt charges. Uh well, I don't want to
spend a lot of time with that. Criminal contempt charges
have to be brought by the DJ. So that's not
going to happen. And so the only other remedy U
is for uh the judge, the federal judge to appoint
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a special prosecutor, which he can do. Uh So, So anyways,
it's just a very very important time to take extra
care because of all of the stress related to things
that are going on, things that are happening to your
four oh one ks and retirement plans right now, things
that are happening with the Federal Reserve, just ahead of
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the Federal Reserve, who's now under threat by the Trump
administration has talked about the impact of teriffs and the
potential to raise prices in the United States and have
inflationary pressure at a time when the Feds have been
trying to control inflation. And so, anyways, and I'll give
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you I'll give you a little example. I mean, every
day I try to get out on a five mile
walk around town. I really enjoy it. And one thing
that happened on the walk is there's this little tourist
train that runs around and I think it runs around
town hourly, and often I see the driver of the
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train and we'll waive and he'll beat the train at me.
And the last couple of it was probably a couple
of days ago. But this this little little child, after
the driver beeped at me, was waving at me and
I wave back, and they were so excited, and I thought,
you know something, as opposed to the horrible things that
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are going on in the world, that is the benevolence
of innocence, right, I mean, just seeing the joy and
a child to be recognized and so it's just kind
of a fun moment. But we need to take moments
like that. We need to be in nature and to breathe,
and to check on family and friends and loved ones
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and make sure they're doing okay. Self care is just
incredibly important.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Right now, right, I mean, you know, the nature is
now being labeled vitamin N. Get your vitamin N nature.
When I first saw this article it said vitamin N,
I thought it was like, you know, Vitamin A, Vitamin C,
you zink. And then I looked at it and it
was no nature, go for a walk, Vitamin D, stay
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out in the sun, vitamin N.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
Have.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
You need to have joy in between the madness, otherwise
you will go insane. The psychiatrists and psychologists are some
of them are closing their practices because they can't keep
the client. It's too many people are trying to get therapy.
And and with that, they're saying even they're coming in
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for what they thought was problems and issues that they
need to discuss, they wind up more times discussing what's
happening now in the United States than their problems. Well, really, yeah,
he's causing massive you know, massive mental language.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Yep. And I mean it is part of everyone's problems.
It's certainly not an abstract concept. I mean he is
having a direct impact. And for folks that are unaware
of it, they're going to be aware soon. The folks
that supported him and the folks that cheering the fact
that people of color are being taken off the streets
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and shipped somewhere regardless of their citizenship status. Uh, They're
they're in for a rude economic awakening and it's coming
right or people on Medicaid, you know, sadly, a lot
of these folks in UH nursing homes and bright red
states UH are are going to have a very bad
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day pretty soon.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Well, I'm thinking he's going to try to give Red
states their Medicaid and Medicare and not the Blue states
because it's getting to the point where I'm seeing it
more written about not that he can get away with it.
When he gets away with everything, So at its point,
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you I mean, then it's going to be like a
civil war at this point, I mean, what is that
he wants to create that, to create martial law, to
get the troops on the you know, the ground that
that is. I mean, the scenarios that you know I'm
thinking is like, I never thought I would think anything
like that. So with that, we know that he's causing
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major problems with the economy.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
And at this point it's worldwide.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yes, it's worldwide because he's he's literally globally you know,
using these tariffs. So how can we explain how the
tariff works to our listeners so they know because a
lot of people don't know. They think it's a tax
on the other country. That's what they think.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
Well, the thing that I get confused about it's not
that necessarily, you know, the tax, I understand who pays
for it. But the numbers that he used at the
press conference last week, and everybody, you know, when he
showed the chart, every economist that I've heard says those
aren't real numbers.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Yeah, Well, I mean, he'd never the truth, so I
wouldn't expect him to use real numbers. I remember from
my second year algebra days, we had imaginary numbers that
were part of equations that we're trying to solve, and
so I think he relies on imaginary numbers. But I'm
gonna I'm going to just take you briefly through how
the teriffs work and who pays for them, because people
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need to understand what they get half truths from this
administration and they think life is okay and they're not
going to be impacted, but this is what happens. And
I'll give you a I think a simple walk through example. So,
pre tariff, before there these tariffs, you might find some
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great high quality earbuds that that costs thirty dollars at Costco.
And so you've got you buy these thirty dollars earbuds.
You love them. They're water repellent, great sound quality. Costco
purchased purchases them from a Chinese supplier for twenty dollars
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and they sell them to you for thirty dollars. You're happy,
You've got what you want. Costco is happy because they've
got a ten dollars ten dollars markup on the on
what they paid. And so when the criminal elect imposes
a two hundred and forty five percent tariff on Chinese goods,
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what happens are the ear so Costco orders that those earbuds.
The earbuds are shipped and received at a port of
entry in the United States. They don't just magically appear
at Costco. There's a supply chain, and so they come in,
they go into a port of entry and US Customs
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assesses the two hundred and forty five percent tariff and
bills the importer. They bill Costco. So Costco then pays
forty nine dollars to the US Treasury. They pay twenty
dollars to the Chinese supplier. So now those twenty dollars earbuds,
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the earbuds that Costco purchase for twenty dollars, has cost
them sixty nine dollars, almost seventy dollars. So now Costco
is going to sell those thirty dollars earbuds that you
love that you can't do without. It's going to be
seventy nine dollars instead of thirty you paid thirty before.
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Now they cost seventy nine dollars or more. And the
reason for that is Costco is not going to run
this as a charity. They're not going to say, Okay,
you know, we bought these for a total of twenty
dollars plus forty nine dollars, but we'll still sell them
for thirty because we're really good people. They're an enterprise.
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They want to produce a profit. So what's going to
happen is the American consumer, if you were happy buying
something thirty bucks, those things are now going to cost
eighty dollars or more. And so for people, what the
Trump administration tries to do is they say, oh, the
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American consumer doesn't pay this. The company, the importer, pays
the tax, the so called tariff tax, to the treasury,
and that's how our treasury is going to make all
of this money. But those costs are passed on to
the people that actually purchase the products. So what they're
doing is they want to cut taxes for the wealthy,
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for the Elon Musks and the Jeff bezos Is of
the world, the Peter Thiels of the world. They want
to cut their taxes and they're going to balance that
budget by having you pay more for goods that are
imported into the United States. It's a tax on the
American consumer. And that's what people don't understand.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
They don't they don't get it. And the fact that
it's two hundred five percent, it was one forty five
he he entered another one hundred. I I there's no
words many times for me to even figure out to
explain anything to anyone in a way that has any
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sense to it, because none of it, as my brother
Mitch would say, and I'll repeat it, nothing makes sense
and plenty of it.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
So that's what the well, what the administration does is
they say, oh, well, the consumer doesn't pay that, it's
paid to the treasury by the importer. Uh and and
people get confused as to who's importing and who's exporting.
So they think, great, I'm not gonna pay for that.
Somebody else is gonna pay for it's gonna make our
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treasury rich, and it's gonna make our taxes go away. Well,
and so it's really it's it's very very it's kind
of funny and horribly sad at the same time.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
And it's also said, because we hit the brake already,
so we have to we have to go for We'll
be back with George Paulisner with more info on the
dismantling of democracy. I can't in America. I can't believe
I'm like even saying this. So what can we do
to make America? Saying again, good question, So please stay
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tuned and find out more information about what's happening.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Hudson Riverradio dot com.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
This is Hudson River Radio dot com.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
This is Hudson River Radio dot com.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
This is Hudson River Radio dot com.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
And we are back with George Paulisner. We're gonna talk.
We did some talk about tariffs. Now we're gonna touch
upon what's happening in plain sight, which is actually a
constitutional crisis. And it is just tough to watch the
downward spiral of American democracy at this point and the
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chaos that's ensuing from this regime. It's a regime to me.
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threads and Blue Sky at TM Shades of Green. And
I'm gonna have George take it away because he's such
as somety pans what what we wanted to bring this out?
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The constitutional crisis which is happening, which I never thought
in my lifetime i'd see, quite honestly, And here we are.
So what what can you meant about on this?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Well, I mean, as we talked about in the in
the introduction and talked about the American dream being founded
or predicated upon justice, it has to be predicated upon
equal justice, uh and democracy and equality. I mean we've
had a civil war over that that was decided a
while back. Uh. And you know, for those that don't know,
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the South lost, uh and.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
So and they're still pissed off.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Probably, yeah, of course they are. But the reality is
when an administration is ignoring the orders of a court, uh,
the federal jurisdiction, federal courts uh and now the Supreme Court,
we are in a constitutional crisis. The president, the criminal
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elect as I refer to him, is is challenging the
thought of co equal branches of government, which is fundamental
in our constitution and checks and balances. And so we've
talked about the possibility of many years of a constitutional crisis.
I remember hearing it first introduced by w during the
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two thousand election returns and talking about if we if
we count all of the votes in Florida, that will
just present a constitutional crisis and I just need to
be declared president now. And so that was where it
was really first introduced, more or less as a threat.
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But there is a theory called the called the presidential
unitary theory, which is something that has been put out
which basically says that the president has complete and centralized
control over the executive branch with minimal interference from Congress
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and the court. It really establishes the president as a king.
And it's it's obviously deeply concerning for any legal expert,
anybody that embraces the thought of rule of law and justice.
It's a defiance of judicial authority. Uh, it's the erosion
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of checks and balances which are in our constitution. It
is an expansion of executive power which should not occur
again in terms of in terms of how the are
the founding documents of our nation were written and elected
members have an oath to defend and protect that document
(31:47):
and what that the concepts of that document, not tear
it up and destroy it as this administration has done.
The suppression of dissent. And so when somebody like uh
Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania is attacked, and there's
(32:07):
absolute silence on the GOP side. But God help you
if you throw a rocket at Tesla or even you know,
look at it sideways, because then you're a domestic terrorist.
Uh And and so these these developments are are ludicrous,
(32:28):
they're they're totally I consider them to be illegal and unconstitutional.
Sadly I'm not I don't have the authority to order
US marshals uh to uh to take this.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
Just one thought, Can the president, are you alone, declare
a national emergency? How do you do that?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
He can, and he can.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
It's the Insurrection Act. It's it's very it's a very
old act on the books that should have been addressed.
And you know, part of the fact that it wasn't
addressed is a real problem. Because the president can declare
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it's not so much immunity, but the president can declare
emergency powers based upon he can use He can deploy
the US armed forces and militia to quil civil unrest
or domestic protests, and use it to enforce the law
(33:36):
when it's being obstructed. It's very broad. There are a
few constraints, and neither Congress or the courts play any
role in deciding what constitutes an obstruction or rebellion, and
the law does not limit what actions military forces may
take once deployed. The law was last amended in eighteen
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seventy God And so just as he's used the Aliens
Act of I think seventeen ninety eight to declare Venezuelans,
to declare really people of color to be members of
the Venezuelan gang in order to deport them, the thought
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is there are people right now that believe that on
April twentieth he is going to effectively declare the Insurrection
Act and national emergency. I think there is difference of
opinion on that in terms of people raising this possibility.
(34:41):
But it's a very broad, poorly written, antiquated law, and
it gives him unprecedented powers and it's very concerning.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Yeah, so he can suspend elections.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
I don't know what he can deploy the military. I
don't know if he can spend elections or not. Uh,
but uh, at least as far as I know, he
has significant power to. I mean, if you can deploy
the military, uh and National Guard against citizens of the
(35:16):
United States who're exercising their their First Amendment rights to
assemble uh and to petition the government. Uh. That Uh,
it's it's a it's it's been used in the past
to enforce civil rights laws. It's been used to break strikes, uh,
(35:37):
and it's been used to suppress so called race riots. Uh.
Speaker 7 (35:41):
And so anyways, it's it's what what what's even mind
boggling to me is you use the word use the
term criminal elect because he has thirty four felony counts
against him.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yep, he would not be able to join the army.
Yet he's commander in chief. And we all forgot signal
Gate that went away, you know now that they have
the I think it's the n l r B. There
was a whistleblower who said that they were using information
secure information and and the Russian I P was getting
(36:17):
into it treason, you know, I mean.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
What, well, well, when we when we talk about when
we talk about things that have been forgotten, remember that
Elon Musk had private conversations with Putin prior to essentially
being the so called second president, the second president president
(36:45):
right or wherever you want to look at it. And
he was responsible for turning off satellites that were guiding
weapons in the Black Sea when Ukraine was attempting to
defend itself again Russian vessels, and so the fact that
I the fact that Russia and Russian IP were able
(37:09):
to breach the system while DOGI had access to it,
while Musk had access to it. You know, I'm not
going to speculate, but it's all bad.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
I mean, none of this is good. And it just
any anybody I talked to, my community, my friends, my relatives,
we're all a gas that this could happen, Like it's
happening with such quickness and such.
Speaker 6 (37:38):
It's less than one hundred days.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
How many days has he been in Like it's eighty
seven or something like.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
That, right, And it's like and the world, world, the
world is topsy turvy in less than one hundred days.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Well, the world, that's right. I mean, the world is
learning that the United States is not a able partner
and the world is starting to so for example, European
Union and NATO UH is stepping up to the plate
for Ukraine because the United States is no longer a
(38:15):
stable partner. China is now coordinating in in the Southeast
Southeast Asia, Japan, Korea, that's right, and bringing them together.
So you're basically starting to see these spheres of influence UH,
which are isolating the United States. When Russia UH, the
(38:38):
illegal invasion from the murderous thug guten UH started, Russia
really became a pariah, pariah state, and we're heavily sanctioned UH.
The oligarchs of Russia were sanctioned UH, and they were
isolated from much of the world, with the exception of
Iran UH and North Korea and China. The United States
(39:04):
is now basically becoming a pariah state in which it's isolated,
nationalized isolationism. That's never a good thing.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Yeah, I mean, never did I ever think, you know
that this would be occurring in my lifetime, I can say,
and I mean you you know, you see nineteen thirty
three Germany and then you see America in twenty twenty five, and.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
The parallels are stunning.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
The parallels are.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
On timeline press of the education system.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Right, And he also lost that the ap has to
be in the press pool. Yet he's still keeping them out.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Right, he's ignoring the rule of law orders and that
is the constitutional crisis. And so when people have the
courage to act and resist, that's incredibly important. Right now,
I think most people know, there were large, widespread protests
not only in the United States but around the world
(40:10):
on April fifth. There's another major protests happening in two
days on April nineteenth. And the growth of those protests
is vital because if people don't attend, if you're not
basically either growing the protests or at least keeping them
at the same level of participation, Trump and the administration
(40:33):
are going to so see people are you know, people
are accepting this, and it's fine, and we can keep
pressing ahead with our plans. But if the protests continue
to grow, that becomes a problem. If there are to
be future elections, that becomes a problem for the GOP.
As people recognize the pattern of Trump's lives, the chaos
(40:57):
that he's created, the economic impact on inflation, Uh, more
and more, more and more people uh and especially independents,
people in the center are going to move away from
the GOP uh and so so, and as we talked
about early earlier in the show, when you start getting
(41:18):
people like Charles Koch and Liz Cheney, you know, and
when Coke and Cheney become uh, you know, your your
your all.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Right, right, then then then you go like never did
I think, and I think George Bush said something too
recently that it was like, what the hell is going on?
In a sense, and it's like, you know how you
like me?
Speaker 7 (41:39):
Now?
Speaker 2 (41:39):
You know? It's like now you like me? Now? You know?
Speaker 4 (41:43):
I think I think he said what the hell is
going on? Many times when he president.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Right then he's reading a children's book and he looked
up what the towers? Well, huh, you know, I don't know.
I just don't know anymore. I don't know. What do
I tell my future grandkids. I don't know. I just
it's just frightening to me. You have grandchildren, I can't
imagine how you feel. And they're all mostly in the states, right,
(42:12):
And how are your kids feeling about all of this?
Speaker 4 (42:14):
So?
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Are they just going through and trying to shield them?
Are they? You know? I mean, how how do you
deal with that? How do you tell them? Do you
not tell them? Do they see it? If they're older,
they see it in school? I think they, you know,
at least in New York. I know they're talking about it.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
But thankfully they're in blue states. And I've had conversations
with my oldest grand granddaughter about these issues, and she's
very perceptive and gets it right. And so the kids
(42:53):
really do understand what's going on. They're deeply concerned. But
I think there's a sense of powerlessness, especially for the
next generation, because beyond this criminal administration, uh, there's still
climate that's looming. That is is a looming catastrophe that
(43:15):
we're unable to deal with. We're regressing now and then use.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
The word climate change in anything either in any of
these documents in the government now they ban them.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
That's right and well. And economics uh is another issue
as AI displaces workers and labor demand drops uh and
people are out of work or have greatly reduced hours.
That's that's another looming issue that we cannot resolve while
we're trying to deal uh with it with this uh,
(43:46):
this runaway, illegal, unconstitutional administration.
Speaker 7 (43:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
I mean, you couldn't put it any more succinct than that.
Quite sure, how much we have left in time? So uh,
you know what else do we just want to get
in before the rap here? And I also just want
to mention that the movie, the animated movie Wally is
an incredible film and people should just watch it again
(44:13):
and you'll see a lot that's happening now. In that
film that was a while ago. Fantastic made you kind
of mouth drop when you watched it, and it's an
animated piece, but Disney animated piece of all things. But
there's a lot to hold on to.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
Well, we certainly had almost one hundred years to think
about the spread of fascism and authoritarianism and nationalistic isolation
and its impact on the rest of the world. So
Wally and other films that deal with that subject are important.
I mean, the thing is the courage to act and resist.
(44:54):
The folks at Harvard pushback from Harvard, which which was
excellent and has spawned kind of a whole new set
of people willing to stand up to this administration. The
law firms such as Susmand Godfrey who represented they represented
(45:18):
Dominion Voting in the seven hundred and eighty seven million
dollar settlement against Fox News for Lyne. They were attacked
by Trump and one of Trump's executive orders, and I
understand that they they won, and other entities like Perkins
Coe and Wilmer Hale and Jenner Blocker fighting Trump in court.
(45:41):
And so that's all. That's all incredibly important. I mean,
think about it this way. If you if you need
a major law firm to advocate for justice for yourself
and for your family. Would you go to some law
firm that just as soon as some you know, orange
fat imbecile said booh, they immediately capitulated party.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
I'll call them out. Sol Cromwell, there are a lot
of others. I won't mention one because I know someone
who works there, and I don't want to just do that.
But I'm appalled. They're appalled.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
Oh yes, some some have been, some have courageously resigned.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
Yes, a lot and a lot of them are associates too.
They they can't, you know, they go, I didn't sign
up for this. You know, I signed up to be
the one who represents your pro bono cases. Not this.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
The US district judge who spoke from the bench in Washington,
D c Uh, said that Trump's order that targeted the
law firm Susman Godfrey was part of a personal vendetta.
The framers of our constitution would see this as a
shocking abusive power.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Right and and then again today and if you're looking
at news, there was another shooting at a college campus
in the Lord Statelida State SSU in Tallahassee, and it's
all okay with them, It's all okay. I mean Florida
is like it's I mean, wow, Well I feel bad
(47:10):
Disney and Universal there and there now because I don't
even want to freaking go there anymore.
Speaker 4 (47:15):
Well, the good news is, and this is something Pam
Bondy or bribe me Bondy as I like to think
of her, and Cash Brittel jumped right in with their
thoughts and prayers, right, and so yeah, got.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
It, bought some prayers really really yeah, Well, we'll see
what David Hoague does. He's now the vice chair of
the Democratic Party and he's basically the Democrat National Committee.
Excuse me, he's twenty five years old, and he was
the one who started you know, the he was there
when the park Land shooting happened in Florida and very
(47:49):
huge gun getting rid of Gun's advocate, and he basically said,
they're ready to primary all the Dems who are like
sitting on their butts and doing nothing right now. And
uh he he has no qualms about putting in younger
people with you know, knowledge and and and and getting
(48:11):
them out there, at least putting putting them out there
to get a new set of you know, a new
generation in power in office, the.
Speaker 4 (48:20):
Dum dumbs have have a huge problem. But Mike Johnson
is the one Mike Lil Johnson is the one who
who basically, uh he recessed the House and and so
it's not that there, it's not that they're you know,
waiting around the House trying to trying to block the
(48:42):
passage of really bad law and policy. Uh. There, they
should be in their dissects right now, meeting with the
voters or if you're Marjorie Taylor Green, tasing your voter,
your constituents and market. That's right, insight, a little insider trading,
it seems like, or really great timing from from Marge.
(49:04):
So who knows.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
That's just so incredible to tell you the truth, all
of this going on just just it's the brain just
doesn't function. It's just impossible to to know, you know
what I mean. Murkowski came out today and basically said
that their Republicans are afraid of the retaliation of Trump.
(49:29):
That's what she said, like almost verbatimus.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
It's it's a disorganized crime family exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
And that's where we're at.
Speaker 4 (49:41):
And you know they were they were going to start
they had a script and everything for idio idiocracy too,
but they can't do it now because they couldn't dream
of anything rious I know.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
I mean if you see these guys who you know,
the signal chat right, I mean, I mean, I mean
when I saw that, I thought it was like, you know,
for high school kids or something, you know, somebody. Uh yeah, anyway,
oh lord, all right? Where can people get info about
(50:12):
where to get in? Where where can people get info
period about what you're doing in other things?
Speaker 4 (50:18):
So if people go to civ dot works, the website
cive dot works, and there's actually a section there cive
dot Work slash defend where we try to put a
lot of information out about frontline organizations that are working
to defend the rule of law, democracy and those that
(50:40):
are being subjected to vindictive, racist, misogynists and horrific attacks
by the criminal elect. And so that's a good place
to UH and support some of these frontline organizations like
the a c l U UH and Democracy Docket, Mark
ali Us who's doing great work in the courts and others.
(51:03):
Because the only place really right now where we can
win other than engaging in large protests or in the courts, UH,
and and probably on the next show, we'll need to
talk about a general strike.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
Okay, hopefully, yes, that's that's the next thing that has
to happen because because of the you know, the nineteenth,
it's a holiday weekend, people are away. I don't know
the timing of that is a little off to me, uh,
but hopefully people will still come out. And the end
it's the a c l U dot org is their
web and I'll put that on with other stuff information
(51:41):
as well, and as usual George, uh, chock full of
info and I'm glad we can get some of this
information out to people to have them understand a little
more what's happening. And people need to stand up, people
need to take action. It's it's there's there's nothing else.
You just gotta keep calling, postcard writing, you know, get involved,
(52:04):
just get involved with your community. And we need each
other now more than ever and we have to rely
on community for that. And so people get up, stand
up and stand up for your rights. Mister Barmarley would say, so,
thanks for joining us for the many Shades of Green.
For more info and shows, go to Hudson River Radio
(52:27):
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who's awesome, to Brian and Malcolm for their help. Remember
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to pick a sheade of green and raise your eco
and your social consciousness. Maxie Margot Rubin and we'll see
you again next time.
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello out there in podcast land and beyond, and believe
it or not, there's another planet that might be inhabitable
and I think we all need to get there. Just
in the news today, I'm Maxi Margot. We've been along
with my co host Malcolm Berman, and this is The
Many Shades of Green, a program that adds a dash
of green into your life. As we engage in conversations
(00:43):
that move to inform, educate, activate, and raise your eco
and social consciousness through culture, politics, music, art, science and community,
we hope to inspire you to pick a shade of
green to become a steward of this beautiful, bloom green
planet we call Earth. So Hi to Malcolm and Lala Land,
High to George and beautiful Portugal, and hi to Neil
(01:07):
back in the studio end and welcome to the Many
Shades of Green. And there's a group, Green Day. It's
my favorite group, one of my favorite groups, and it
has green in it. So Billy Joe Armstrong is one
of my faves, and he played at Coachella this past
week weekend and he has a song called the American
(01:32):
Dream is Killing Me. So let's get that up.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
American.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Try miscallabate snabam.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
That's all.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Else, let's get the serious bolt your family all.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Now, it's the.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Conte on dot tam.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
I'm grateful time off to dammer can try miscaliba damn
me can try miscalibate people the stream unemployed?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Absolutely, did you.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Ever the ransom note?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Don't on go hod on messes.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
TikTok tatis under all the best American is killing me.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Damn is killing me.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yep, the American dream is killing me. I don't know
if it's killing anyone else on this zoom that I'm
looking at. Uh, I think, yeah, Neil, definitely Neil George.
You're in Portugal, but you're American.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Well, the American dream is over here now.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Right, So he moved to He brought it there. So
I think Neil and Malcolm and I have to move
to Portugal. What do you think now?
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Yeah? I contacted Richard gear.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I think I'm going to move with Oh Spain. Okay.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
There was a thing on a sixty minute on Sunday night,
Sunday morning, Oh, okay about Malta.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Malta. Okay. I don't know much about Malta, but if
it's away from here, I don't mind. I don't mind
that any of that, but anyway, you know, everyone should
have the chance to pursue their goals and improve their life,
which includes personal and economic freedom like speech, owning property,
(04:32):
starting a business. Because at this moment in time, the
American dream seems doa and the concept of the American
gam was rooted in the idea that anyone, regardless of
where they come from or what social class they were
born into, can achieve success and upward mobility through hard work, determination,
and initiative. And now I question that, I question whether
(04:53):
it's accessible as the rising inequality, student debt, excessive health
care costs, medic barriers, or in place to reduce access
to programs that help Americans. And I wonder what's going
on with that because the current administration via Doge again
Doge not Dodge. Doge has a French flare, I keep saying,
(05:19):
has taken out the chain saw to slash government workers, scientists, educators, immigration,
climate policy, and more, including defiance. They are completely in
defiance of Supreme Court orders, one of which directed the
release of Kilmar Garcia, who is an innocent of any
wrongdoing and was deported and isn't a prison in a
(05:41):
horrible prison.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
That dog, It wasn't that.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
No, No, it's not not Doge dose. There was a
pause there. It's the administration that's doing this. Doge is
all part of this, as is Miller Musk. They're all complicit.
The the turn general is complicit. Uh anyone said, you
know complete? At this point, no one is safe as
the red Shirts who are using the tactics of the
(06:10):
brown Shirts are scooping up citizens regardless of their legal status,
which means not even US citizens are safe from being stopped, questioned,
and even taken away for looking different or disagreeing with
the current regime. Because it is a regime. The American
dream is hanging by a thread for the sake of
future generations that cannot This cannot stand. It just cannot stand.
(06:34):
So in today's podcast, we have a resident political analyst, environmentalist,
and I have to use the word curmudgeon because it's true.
George Paulisner, founder of SIEVEDT, works to give some insight
into the free fall of America into fascism. We are
hitting there, We're we're authoritarian already, that we are in
(06:55):
constitutional crisis is happening right now as we're as I'm speaking,
So we're gonna go into those topics and discuss, you know,
what we can do, how far went in, how far
deep we are in all of this. We'll touch on
Harvard taking a stand. I mean, wow, that to me
(07:15):
is a very very big move, and hopefully we'll turn
turn things a little around a bit. And then, because
as I said, Trump and the Brola Garch advisors, Miller
Mosk and the others continue to dismantle democracy and key
fittle agencies and much more so, we are in the
(07:36):
many shades of authoritarian rule and total chaos. And I
don't know what to say at this point other than
we need to get ourselves out of this. And George,
let's quickly do a shade of green. And I know
you have a great poem. If you want to, you know,
do that first. It's up to you, So take it away, George.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Thanks, Thanks Maxine. Well my color You're always very good
about choosing a color of green. But I have to
say my color right now is darkness until this ends,
and tell the geop somebody rises and has the courage
to go twenty fifth Amendment to have the criminal elect
(08:23):
removed or impeachment happens, and we're going to talk a
little bit about that because his actions have actually made
some strange bedfellows, and we'll talk. We'll talk if we
get to that, we'll talk a little bit about how
we are currently on the same side as a Cheney
and a Koch brother. And I never thought I would
(08:44):
actually see that in my lifetime, but Charles Coke has
sued the Trump administration, actually his organization has sued the
Trump administration on the on what they believe is an
illegal implementation of tariffs due to an emergency on trade.
(09:05):
And so so we'll talk a little bit about that,
and we're going to talk a little bit about how
tariffs work, how they what they what really happens, and
who pays for them, because there's a lot of intentional
confusion on that, and I suspect when people wearing red
hats figure out exactly who is paying for the tariffs,
(09:26):
very similar to you know, Mexico paying for the border wall,
those folks wearing red hats are are not going to
be leaves I think with the criminal elect.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, I mean, there's just the barrage of this, the
amount that comes in through my news feed the notifications
I get every hour is just mind boggling. And this
is all planned.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
This was all pre nine hundred pages of the Heritage
Foundation Project twenty one five.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
That doesn't exist. That's not real. He'll never do that.
It's just talk.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yeah, well, I'm gonna I do have I do have
a quote for us from John Steinbeck, from the Grapes
of Wrath, and he said, in the West there was
panic when the migrants multiplied on the highways. Men of
property were terrified for their property. Men who had never
been hungry saw the eyes of the hungry, men who
(10:29):
had never wanted anything very much, saw the flare of
want in the eyes of the migrants. And the men
of the towns and of the soft suburban country gathered
to defend themselves, and they reassured themselves that they were
good and the invaders bad, as a man must do
before he fights. Uh. And I'm really talking about the
(10:52):
plight right now of what I considered to be state
sponsored kidnappings, the ice and whoever ice is contracted with,
taking people off the streets, throwing them into a van,
putting them on a flight to a prison in Al Salvador,
and against federal judges orders and now against a nine
(11:18):
to zero, a unanimous Supreme Court ruling on this issue.
And so when you mentioned in the introduction about the
constitutional crisis, we are absolutely in a constitutional crisis. And
the reality is there is no American dream left until
it's predicated on the foundation of the rule of law.
(11:42):
And if we do not have the rule of law,
there can be no dream.
Speaker 7 (11:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Yeah, Well, the funny thing was, you know, you're talking
about the nine zero Supreme Court decision. If you listen
to the right wing radio stations or TV stations, they're
saying was a victory. It's the same, Yeah, he says.
It says that they could deport them, but they don't
(12:09):
say that before they're deported, they have to have a
try to due process. That's right, That's what they leave out.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
They leave out those two words pressed.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
They are right though. It is a tremendous victory and
you have to give it to the criminal elect because
how many times has this Supreme Court actually acted in
a unanimous way. He's unified the Supreme Court. The extremists
on the right, right and the left have come together
(12:41):
to basically say this is this is I mean.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
When I read it. I went, Wat, that has to
be something to this that's not you know, I'm looking
at you know, wow? Really and then he basically I
said to my husband, I said, lest they're not gonna
He's gonna say a few I know it he is.
I mean, you know, I just I don't know. Someone
someone sent me a picture of It was the of
(13:08):
Sesame Street and it was Bert and Ernie. People can't
see this, but it's a picture of Burt and Ernie go.
It says this message is brought to you by the
letters F and you. So I loved it. I just
loved that. I had to take a screenshot of that.
There was no way around it. But there, you know,
(13:29):
I mean, there's so much going on, and I am
I mean, are you guys all stressed? Because if you
say no, I'm gonna go what I'm stressed. I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
I'm waiting for someone to knock on my door. Yeah,
was your Were your grandparents here from Russia?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
You know?
Speaker 6 (13:45):
Were there?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Illgally from Russia. But they're in with Russia. Russia is
off limits. They're not gonna bother you. They love Russia.
I wouldn't worry about that. You know, you're you're you're okay.
If you're from somewhere else, that's another story.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
I think my other my other grandparents from Poland.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Oh well, you know, if you get too hungry, you'll
be also fine. You know, no, no problem. But so
I just want to get to this because you know,
you did all these great notes, and I mean, Neil,
how are you feeling say yes or no that you're
going kookie bots He's he's shaking like no, he just
feels the same. So the question is I'm just to
(14:23):
get this off on the top so people can hear
this is the extra care for self, friends and family.
How do we kind of cope with this before we
get into the really nitty gritty of like insanity here.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
I do think that that is incredibly important in terms
of being more patient with yourself and with others. I mean,
life is hard enough and challenging enough as it is,
as Thereau had said, the mass of men, but it's
really the massive people, the lives of quiet desperation. And
(14:57):
I truly believe that buddy that is intelligent, sensitive and
aware of the happenings around them is going to be
incredibly stressed right now, not only in terms of the
challenges of life itself, but the criminal elect and the
challenges that he is making, the disruption and chaos that
(15:21):
he is causing, really twenty four by seven, not just him,
but the people that he's unleashed, his syncophants, psychophants that
are just like Pam, bribe me, BONDI if the DOJ
and cash me this far.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Bar association on this see the buying a Supreme Court order.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
And you know, they issued an order at the DOJ
that they can no longer be members of the America.
They're withdrawing membership from the a BA because the a
BA has actually been very pointed in terms of the
issues with this administration. So not with not withdrawing from
(16:07):
bar certification, but with drawing any kind of membership or
funding of the a B.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
A But they but they can dismart they can disbar them.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Oh yeah, technically yep.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And they could be held in contempt and thrown in jail.
They get.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
It's going to be a challenge because uh that is
the criminal contempt charges. Uh well, I don't want to
spend a lot of time with that. Criminal contempt charges
have to be brought by the DJ. So that's not
going to happen. And so the only other remedy U
is for uh the judge, the federal judge to appoint
(16:47):
a special prosecutor, which he can do. Uh So, So anyways,
it's just a very very important time to take extra
care because of all of the stress related to things
that are going on, things that are happening to your
four oh one ks and retirement plans right now, things
that are happening with the Federal Reserve, just ahead of
(17:12):
the Federal Reserve, who's now under threat by the Trump
administration has talked about the impact of teriffs and the
potential to raise prices in the United States and have
inflationary pressure at a time when the Feds have been
trying to control inflation. And so, anyways, and I'll give
(17:34):
you I'll give you a little example. I mean, every
day I try to get out on a five mile
walk around town. I really enjoy it. And one thing
that happened on the walk is there's this little tourist
train that runs around and I think it runs around
town hourly, and often I see the driver of the
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train and we'll waive and he'll beat the train at me.
And the last couple of it was probably a couple
of days ago. But this this little little child, after
the driver beeped at me, was waving at me and
I wave back, and they were so excited, and I thought,
you know something, as opposed to the horrible things that
(18:18):
are going on in the world, that is the benevolence
of innocence, right, I mean, just seeing the joy and
a child to be recognized and so it's just kind
of a fun moment. But we need to take moments
like that. We need to be in nature and to breathe,
and to check on family and friends and loved ones
(18:38):
and make sure they're doing okay. Self care is just
incredibly important.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Right now, right, I mean, you know, the nature is
now being labeled vitamin N. Get your vitamin N nature.
When I first saw this article it said vitamin N,
I thought it was like, you know, Vitamin A, Vitamin C,
you zink. And then I looked at it and it
was no nature, go for a walk, Vitamin D, stay
(19:04):
out in the sun, vitamin N.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
Have.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
You need to have joy in between the madness, otherwise
you will go insane. The psychiatrists and psychologists are some
of them are closing their practices because they can't keep
the client. It's too many people are trying to get therapy.
And and with that, they're saying even they're coming in
(19:27):
for what they thought was problems and issues that they
need to discuss, they wind up more times discussing what's
happening now in the United States than their problems. Well, really, yeah,
he's causing massive you know, massive mental language.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Yep. And I mean it is part of everyone's problems.
It's certainly not an abstract concept. I mean he is
having a direct impact. And for folks that are unaware
of it, they're going to be aware soon. The folks
that supported him and the folks that cheering the fact
that people of color are being taken off the streets
(20:04):
and shipped somewhere regardless of their citizenship status. Uh, They're
they're in for a rude economic awakening and it's coming
right or people on Medicaid, you know, sadly, a lot
of these folks in UH nursing homes and bright red
states UH are are going to have a very bad
(20:26):
day pretty soon.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Well, I'm thinking he's going to try to give Red
states their Medicaid and Medicare and not the Blue states
because it's getting to the point where I'm seeing it
more written about not that he can get away with it.
When he gets away with everything, So at its point,
(20:48):
you I mean, then it's going to be like a
civil war at this point, I mean, what is that
he wants to create that, to create martial law, to
get the troops on the you know, the ground that
that is. I mean, the scenarios that you know I'm
thinking is like, I never thought I would think anything
like that. So with that, we know that he's causing
(21:10):
major problems with the economy.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
And at this point it's worldwide.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yes, it's worldwide because he's he's literally globally you know,
using these tariffs. So how can we explain how the
tariff works to our listeners so they know because a
lot of people don't know. They think it's a tax
on the other country. That's what they think.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
Well, the thing that I get confused about it's not
that necessarily, you know, the tax, I understand who pays
for it. But the numbers that he used at the
press conference last week, and everybody, you know, when he
showed the chart, every economist that I've heard says those
aren't real numbers.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Yeah, Well, I mean, he'd never the truth, so I
wouldn't expect him to use real numbers. I remember from
my second year algebra days, we had imaginary numbers that
were part of equations that we're trying to solve, and
so I think he relies on imaginary numbers. But I'm
gonna I'm going to just take you briefly through how
the teriffs work and who pays for them, because people
(22:20):
need to understand what they get half truths from this
administration and they think life is okay and they're not
going to be impacted, but this is what happens. And
I'll give you a I think a simple walk through example. So,
pre tariff, before there these tariffs, you might find some
(22:43):
great high quality earbuds that that costs thirty dollars at Costco.
And so you've got you buy these thirty dollars earbuds.
You love them. They're water repellent, great sound quality. Costco
purchased purchases them from a Chinese supplier for twenty dollars
(23:04):
and they sell them to you for thirty dollars. You're happy,
You've got what you want. Costco is happy because they've
got a ten dollars ten dollars markup on the on
what they paid. And so when the criminal elect imposes
a two hundred and forty five percent tariff on Chinese goods,
(23:26):
what happens are the ear so Costco orders that those earbuds.
The earbuds are shipped and received at a port of
entry in the United States. They don't just magically appear
at Costco. There's a supply chain, and so they come in,
they go into a port of entry and US Customs
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assesses the two hundred and forty five percent tariff and
bills the importer. They bill Costco. So Costco then pays
forty nine dollars to the US Treasury. They pay twenty
dollars to the Chinese supplier. So now those twenty dollars earbuds,
(24:07):
the earbuds that Costco purchase for twenty dollars, has cost
them sixty nine dollars, almost seventy dollars. So now Costco
is going to sell those thirty dollars earbuds that you
love that you can't do without. It's going to be
seventy nine dollars instead of thirty you paid thirty before.
(24:28):
Now they cost seventy nine dollars or more. And the
reason for that is Costco is not going to run
this as a charity. They're not going to say, Okay,
you know, we bought these for a total of twenty
dollars plus forty nine dollars, but we'll still sell them
for thirty because we're really good people. They're an enterprise.
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They want to produce a profit. So what's going to
happen is the American consumer, if you were happy buying
something thirty bucks, those things are now going to cost
eighty dollars or more. And so for people, what the
Trump administration tries to do is they say, oh, the
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American consumer doesn't pay this. The company, the importer, pays
the tax, the so called tariff tax, to the treasury,
and that's how our treasury is going to make all
of this money. But those costs are passed on to
the people that actually purchase the products. So what they're
doing is they want to cut taxes for the wealthy,
(25:33):
for the Elon Musks and the Jeff bezos Is of
the world, the Peter Thiels of the world. They want
to cut their taxes and they're going to balance that
budget by having you pay more for goods that are
imported into the United States. It's a tax on the
American consumer. And that's what people don't understand.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
They don't they don't get it. And the fact that
it's two hundred five percent, it was one forty five
he he entered another one hundred. I I there's no
words many times for me to even figure out to
explain anything to anyone in a way that has any
(26:14):
sense to it, because none of it, as my brother
Mitch would say, and I'll repeat it, nothing makes sense
and plenty of it.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
So that's what the well, what the administration does is
they say, oh, well, the consumer doesn't pay that, it's
paid to the treasury by the importer. Uh and and
people get confused as to who's importing and who's exporting.
So they think, great, I'm not gonna pay for that.
Somebody else is gonna pay for it's gonna make our
(26:43):
treasury rich, and it's gonna make our taxes go away. Well,
and so it's really it's it's very very it's kind
of funny and horribly sad at the same time.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
And it's also said, because we hit the brake already,
so we have to we have to go for We'll
be back with George Paulisner with more info on the
dismantling of democracy. I can't in America. I can't believe
I'm like even saying this. So what can we do
to make America? Saying again, good question, So please stay
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Speaker 4 (27:19):
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Speaker 5 (27:35):
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Speaker 2 (28:03):
And we are back with George Paulisner. We're gonna talk.
We did some talk about tariffs. Now we're gonna touch
upon what's happening in plain sight, which is actually a
constitutional crisis. And it is just tough to watch the
downward spiral of American democracy at this point and the
(28:23):
chaos that's ensuing from this regime. It's a regime to me.
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threads and Blue Sky at TM Shades of Green. And
I'm gonna have George take it away because he's such
as somety pans what what we wanted to bring this out?
(28:49):
The constitutional crisis which is happening, which I never thought
in my lifetime i'd see, quite honestly, And here we are.
So what what can you meant about on this?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Well, I mean, as we talked about in the in
the introduction and talked about the American dream being founded
or predicated upon justice, it has to be predicated upon
equal justice, uh and democracy and equality. I mean we've
had a civil war over that that was decided a
while back. Uh. And you know, for those that don't know,
(29:26):
the South lost, uh and.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
So and they're still pissed off.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Probably, yeah, of course they are. But the reality is
when an administration is ignoring the orders of a court, uh,
the federal jurisdiction, federal courts uh and now the Supreme Court,
we are in a constitutional crisis. The president, the criminal
(29:53):
elect as I refer to him, is is challenging the
thought of co equal branches of government, which is fundamental
in our constitution and checks and balances. And so we've
talked about the possibility of many years of a constitutional crisis.
I remember hearing it first introduced by w during the
(30:18):
two thousand election returns and talking about if we if
we count all of the votes in Florida, that will
just present a constitutional crisis and I just need to
be declared president now. And so that was where it
was really first introduced, more or less as a threat.
(30:38):
But there is a theory called the called the presidential
unitary theory, which is something that has been put out
which basically says that the president has complete and centralized
control over the executive branch with minimal interference from Congress
(30:59):
and the court. It really establishes the president as a king.
And it's it's obviously deeply concerning for any legal expert,
anybody that embraces the thought of rule of law and justice.
It's a defiance of judicial authority. Uh, it's the erosion
(31:20):
of checks and balances which are in our constitution. It
is an expansion of executive power which should not occur
again in terms of in terms of how the are
the founding documents of our nation were written and elected
members have an oath to defend and protect that document
(31:47):
and what that the concepts of that document, not tear
it up and destroy it as this administration has done.
The suppression of dissent. And so when somebody like uh
Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania is attacked, and there's
(32:07):
absolute silence on the GOP side. But God help you
if you throw a rocket at Tesla or even you know,
look at it sideways, because then you're a domestic terrorist.
Uh And and so these these developments are are ludicrous,
(32:28):
they're they're totally I consider them to be illegal and unconstitutional.
Sadly I'm not I don't have the authority to order
US marshals uh to uh to take this.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
Just one thought, Can the president, are you alone, declare
a national emergency? How do you do that?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
He can, and he can.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
It's the Insurrection Act. It's it's very it's a very
old act on the books that should have been addressed.
And you know, part of the fact that it wasn't
addressed is a real problem. Because the president can declare
(33:15):
it's not so much immunity, but the president can declare
emergency powers based upon he can use He can deploy
the US armed forces and militia to quil civil unrest
or domestic protests, and use it to enforce the law
(33:36):
when it's being obstructed. It's very broad. There are a
few constraints, and neither Congress or the courts play any
role in deciding what constitutes an obstruction or rebellion, and
the law does not limit what actions military forces may
take once deployed. The law was last amended in eighteen
(33:59):
seventy God And so just as he's used the Aliens
Act of I think seventeen ninety eight to declare Venezuelans,
to declare really people of color to be members of
the Venezuelan gang in order to deport them, the thought
(34:19):
is there are people right now that believe that on
April twentieth he is going to effectively declare the Insurrection
Act and national emergency. I think there is difference of
opinion on that in terms of people raising this possibility.
(34:41):
But it's a very broad, poorly written, antiquated law, and
it gives him unprecedented powers and it's very concerning.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Yeah, so he can suspend elections.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
I don't know what he can deploy the military. I
don't know if he can spend elections or not. Uh,
but uh, at least as far as I know, he
has significant power to. I mean, if you can deploy
the military, uh and National Guard against citizens of the
(35:16):
United States who're exercising their their First Amendment rights to
assemble uh and to petition the government. Uh. That Uh,
it's it's a it's it's been used in the past
to enforce civil rights laws. It's been used to break strikes, uh,
(35:37):
and it's been used to suppress so called race riots. Uh.
Speaker 7 (35:41):
And so anyways, it's it's what what what's even mind
boggling to me is you use the word use the
term criminal elect because he has thirty four felony counts
against him.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yep, he would not be able to join the army.
Yet he's commander in chief. And we all forgot signal
Gate that went away, you know now that they have
the I think it's the n l r B. There
was a whistleblower who said that they were using information
secure information and and the Russian I P was getting
(36:17):
into it treason, you know, I mean.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
What, well, well, when we when we talk about when
we talk about things that have been forgotten, remember that
Elon Musk had private conversations with Putin prior to essentially
being the so called second president, the second president president
(36:45):
right or wherever you want to look at it. And
he was responsible for turning off satellites that were guiding
weapons in the Black Sea when Ukraine was attempting to
defend itself again Russian vessels, and so the fact that
I the fact that Russia and Russian IP were able
(37:09):
to breach the system while DOGI had access to it,
while Musk had access to it. You know, I'm not
going to speculate, but it's all bad.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
I mean, none of this is good. And it just
any anybody I talked to, my community, my friends, my relatives,
we're all a gas that this could happen, Like it's
happening with such quickness and such.
Speaker 6 (37:38):
It's less than one hundred days.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
How many days has he been in Like it's eighty
seven or something like.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
That, right, And it's like and the world, world, the
world is topsy turvy in less than one hundred days.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Well, the world, that's right. I mean, the world is
learning that the United States is not a able partner
and the world is starting to so for example, European
Union and NATO UH is stepping up to the plate
for Ukraine because the United States is no longer a
(38:15):
stable partner. China is now coordinating in in the Southeast
Southeast Asia, Japan, Korea, that's right, and bringing them together.
So you're basically starting to see these spheres of influence UH,
which are isolating the United States. When Russia UH, the
(38:38):
illegal invasion from the murderous thug guten UH started, Russia
really became a pariah, pariah state, and we're heavily sanctioned UH.
The oligarchs of Russia were sanctioned UH, and they were
isolated from much of the world, with the exception of
Iran UH and North Korea and China. The United States
(39:04):
is now basically becoming a pariah state in which it's isolated,
nationalized isolationism. That's never a good thing.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Yeah, I mean, never did I ever think, you know
that this would be occurring in my lifetime, I can say,
and I mean you you know, you see nineteen thirty
three Germany and then you see America in twenty twenty five, and.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
The parallels are stunning.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
The parallels are.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
On timeline press of the education system.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Right, And he also lost that the ap has to
be in the press pool. Yet he's still keeping them out.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Right, he's ignoring the rule of law orders and that
is the constitutional crisis. And so when people have the
courage to act and resist, that's incredibly important. Right now,
I think most people know, there were large, widespread protests
not only in the United States but around the world
(40:10):
on April fifth. There's another major protests happening in two
days on April nineteenth. And the growth of those protests
is vital because if people don't attend, if you're not
basically either growing the protests or at least keeping them
at the same level of participation, Trump and the administration
(40:33):
are going to so see people are you know, people
are accepting this, and it's fine, and we can keep
pressing ahead with our plans. But if the protests continue
to grow, that becomes a problem. If there are to
be future elections, that becomes a problem for the GOP.
As people recognize the pattern of Trump's lives, the chaos
(40:57):
that he's created, the economic impact on inflation, Uh, more
and more, more and more people uh and especially independents,
people in the center are going to move away from
the GOP uh and so so, and as we talked
about early earlier in the show, when you start getting
(41:18):
people like Charles Koch and Liz Cheney, you know, and
when Coke and Cheney become uh, you know, your your
your all.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Right, right, then then then you go like never did
I think, and I think George Bush said something too
recently that it was like, what the hell is going on?
In a sense, and it's like, you know how you
like me?
Speaker 7 (41:39):
Now?
Speaker 2 (41:39):
You know? It's like now you like me? Now? You know?
Speaker 4 (41:43):
I think I think he said what the hell is
going on? Many times when he president.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Right then he's reading a children's book and he looked
up what the towers? Well, huh, you know, I don't know.
I just don't know anymore. I don't know. What do
I tell my future grandkids. I don't know. I just
it's just frightening to me. You have grandchildren, I can't
imagine how you feel. And they're all mostly in the states, right,
(42:12):
And how are your kids feeling about all of this?
Speaker 4 (42:14):
So?
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Are they just going through and trying to shield them?
Are they? You know? I mean, how how do you
deal with that? How do you tell them? Do you
not tell them? Do they see it? If they're older,
they see it in school? I think they, you know,
at least in New York. I know they're talking about it.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
But thankfully they're in blue states. And I've had conversations
with my oldest grand granddaughter about these issues, and she's
very perceptive and gets it right. And so the kids
(42:53):
really do understand what's going on. They're deeply concerned. But
I think there's a sense of powerlessness, especially for the
next generation, because beyond this criminal administration, uh, there's still
climate that's looming. That is is a looming catastrophe that
(43:15):
we're unable to deal with. We're regressing now and then use.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
The word climate change in anything either in any of
these documents in the government now they ban them.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
That's right and well. And economics uh is another issue
as AI displaces workers and labor demand drops uh and
people are out of work or have greatly reduced hours.
That's that's another looming issue that we cannot resolve while
we're trying to deal uh with it with this uh,
(43:46):
this runaway, illegal, unconstitutional administration.
Speaker 7 (43:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
I mean, you couldn't put it any more succinct than that.
Quite sure, how much we have left in time? So uh,
you know what else do we just want to get
in before the rap here? And I also just want
to mention that the movie, the animated movie Wally is
an incredible film and people should just watch it again
(44:13):
and you'll see a lot that's happening now. In that
film that was a while ago. Fantastic made you kind
of mouth drop when you watched it, and it's an
animated piece, but Disney animated piece of all things. But
there's a lot to hold on to.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
Well, we certainly had almost one hundred years to think
about the spread of fascism and authoritarianism and nationalistic isolation
and its impact on the rest of the world. So
Wally and other films that deal with that subject are important.
I mean, the thing is the courage to act and resist.
(44:54):
The folks at Harvard pushback from Harvard, which which was
excellent and has spawned kind of a whole new set
of people willing to stand up to this administration. The
law firms such as Susmand Godfrey who represented they represented
(45:18):
Dominion Voting in the seven hundred and eighty seven million
dollar settlement against Fox News for Lyne. They were attacked
by Trump and one of Trump's executive orders, and I
understand that they they won, and other entities like Perkins
Coe and Wilmer Hale and Jenner Blocker fighting Trump in court.
(45:41):
And so that's all. That's all incredibly important. I mean,
think about it this way. If you if you need
a major law firm to advocate for justice for yourself
and for your family. Would you go to some law
firm that just as soon as some you know, orange
fat imbecile said booh, they immediately capitulated party.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
I'll call them out. Sol Cromwell, there are a lot
of others. I won't mention one because I know someone
who works there, and I don't want to just do that.
But I'm appalled. They're appalled.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
Oh yes, some some have been, some have courageously resigned.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
Yes, a lot and a lot of them are associates too.
They they can't, you know, they go, I didn't sign
up for this. You know, I signed up to be
the one who represents your pro bono cases. Not this.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
The US district judge who spoke from the bench in Washington,
D c Uh, said that Trump's order that targeted the
law firm Susman Godfrey was part of a personal vendetta.
The framers of our constitution would see this as a
shocking abusive power.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Right and and then again today and if you're looking
at news, there was another shooting at a college campus
in the Lord Statelida State SSU in Tallahassee, and it's
all okay with them, It's all okay. I mean Florida
is like it's I mean, wow, Well I feel bad
(47:10):
Disney and Universal there and there now because I don't
even want to freaking go there anymore.
Speaker 4 (47:15):
Well, the good news is, and this is something Pam
Bondy or bribe me Bondy as I like to think
of her, and Cash Brittel jumped right in with their
thoughts and prayers, right, and so yeah, got.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
It, bought some prayers really really yeah, Well, we'll see
what David Hoague does. He's now the vice chair of
the Democratic Party and he's basically the Democrat National Committee.
Excuse me, he's twenty five years old, and he was
the one who started you know, the he was there
when the park Land shooting happened in Florida and very
(47:49):
huge gun getting rid of Gun's advocate, and he basically said,
they're ready to primary all the Dems who are like
sitting on their butts and doing nothing right now. And
uh he he has no qualms about putting in younger
people with you know, knowledge and and and and getting
(48:11):
them out there, at least putting putting them out there
to get a new set of you know, a new
generation in power in office, the.
Speaker 4 (48:20):
Dum dumbs have have a huge problem. But Mike Johnson
is the one Mike Lil Johnson is the one who
who basically, uh he recessed the House and and so
it's not that there, it's not that they're you know,
waiting around the House trying to trying to block the
(48:42):
passage of really bad law and policy. Uh. There, they
should be in their dissects right now, meeting with the
voters or if you're Marjorie Taylor Green, tasing your voter,
your constituents and market. That's right, insight, a little insider trading,
it seems like, or really great timing from from Marge.
(49:04):
So who knows.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
That's just so incredible to tell you the truth, all
of this going on just just it's the brain just
doesn't function. It's just impossible to to know, you know
what I mean. Murkowski came out today and basically said
that their Republicans are afraid of the retaliation of Trump.
(49:29):
That's what she said, like almost verbatimus.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
It's it's a disorganized crime family exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
And that's where we're at.
Speaker 4 (49:41):
And you know they were they were going to start
they had a script and everything for idio idiocracy too,
but they can't do it now because they couldn't dream
of anything rious I know.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
I mean if you see these guys who you know,
the signal chat right, I mean, I mean, I mean
when I saw that, I thought it was like, you know,
for high school kids or something, you know, somebody. Uh yeah, anyway,
oh lord, all right? Where can people get info about
(50:12):
where to get in? Where where can people get info
period about what you're doing in other things?
Speaker 4 (50:18):
So if people go to civ dot works, the website
cive dot works, and there's actually a section there cive
dot Work slash defend where we try to put a
lot of information out about frontline organizations that are working
to defend the rule of law, democracy and those that
(50:40):
are being subjected to vindictive, racist, misogynists and horrific attacks
by the criminal elect. And so that's a good place
to UH and support some of these frontline organizations like
the a c l U UH and Democracy Docket, Mark
ali Us who's doing great work in the courts and others.
(51:03):
Because the only place really right now where we can
win other than engaging in large protests or in the courts, UH,
and and probably on the next show, we'll need to
talk about a general strike.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
Okay, hopefully, yes, that's that's the next thing that has
to happen because because of the you know, the nineteenth,
it's a holiday weekend, people are away. I don't know
the timing of that is a little off to me, uh,
but hopefully people will still come out. And the end
it's the a c l U dot org is their
web and I'll put that on with other stuff information
(51:41):
as well, and as usual George, uh, chock full of
info and I'm glad we can get some of this
information out to people to have them understand a little
more what's happening. And people need to stand up, people
need to take action. It's it's there's there's nothing else.
You just gotta keep calling, postcard writing, you know, get involved,
(52:04):
just get involved with your community. And we need each
other now more than ever and we have to rely
on community for that. And so people get up, stand
up and stand up for your rights. Mister Barmarley would say, so,
thanks for joining us for the many Shades of Green.
For more info and shows, go to Hudson River Radio
(52:27):
dot com. Malcolm Presents dot com in the many Shades
of Green dot com. You could send us your thoughts
at Team Shades of Green, on Instagram and on threads,
and also on Blue Sky Now, which is a new
media social media platform. A shout out to Neil back there,
who's awesome, to Brian and Malcolm for their help. Remember
(52:48):
to pick a sheade of green and raise your eco
and your social consciousness. Maxie Margot Rubin and we'll see
you again next time.
Speaker 1 (53:18):
Hudson River Radio dot com MHM
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