CFL Week 14 Results + Reactions! Winners and Losers From CFL 2024 Week 14!!

CFL Week 14 Results + Reactions! Winner and Losers From CFL Week 14! We went LIVE on Tuesday, September 10th to recap and react to CFL week 14! Join Hussey's Huddle and me as we react to the 14th week of CFL gameplay and take your comments and questions live!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Well here we are back here, NFL season and full swing.
But Jason, we have been talking CFL football for many
many weeks. Now will continue. I didn't you have the
big Monday night football game last night? Aaron Rodgers looked,
he looked fine. The Jets didn't look great. That's exciting.
Sorry for another day, Jason. How are you doing, sir?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Doing good? Buddy? How are you?

Speaker 3 (00:56):
I'm good. It's week fourteen here. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
I was looking at this schedule because we're already getting
to the point of the CFL schedule where we have,
like we have three games next week. I'm not sure
if there's is there a Canadian holiday? What's the rationale
behind the three games next week?

Speaker 4 (01:10):
I think it's just to do something with the bye
weeks and like it's just one of those nine team
league kind of things.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Well, welcome everybody again. We're back.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
I think we'll be good here for a couple of weeks.
I think I've booking something here in October. We'll figure
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Here Jason caught up on everything today. This was a

(01:41):
really really exciting weekend of football. Really, we were talking
before we came on. Pat crowds, I know, Dunk and
everyone in the ratings have been great. Likes the CFL.
Dare I say like hot again right now? It feels
like it's got a lot of momentum.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Honestly, this has been a fantastic season.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
I think it's an overwhelming success from a CFL standpoint,
I think most of the games have been very exciting
this year. I think, you know, even though there's been
some injuries to quarterbacks, I think quarterback play has been
pretty good this year. I think they put out a
stat recently that it's the second highest average quarterback rating
by quarterbacks in the league this year over any other

(02:17):
year in the CFL. So that's pretty impressive and you'd
love to see that from an entertainment standpoint.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Well, it's interesting and obviously you know Week fifteen here
of the CFL versus Week one in the NFL, but
there was a lot of that going in here. I've
seen a lot of storylines coming out the first week
of the NFL is again you know, preseason and quarterback
play getting slow coming out and scorings down and kind
of all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Again.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Obviously we're mid season here with the CFL and not
quite apples to apples, but like all of these games
were killer, really came down to the end.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Go Lions here, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
I saw pack packed crowds, you know, the banjo bull
looked pack and we were going to talk here about
the Alouettes game, but like, holy god, I mean that
is right. You know, from my understanding, Montreal was always
one of those BC Toronto and Montreal right of like
these weaker franchises, right, and we kind of the rest

(03:11):
of the team, you know, you get the Saskatchewan's are
kind of pulling them along. Part of it is obviously
PKP coming in new ownership. A lot of it is
just them being a really good team. We're seeing crowds
go back into Edmonton here, right. They kicked the snot
out of Calgary and we could I think, what's his name,
blowcal Bonder through another interception. I think I just heard
here a few minutes ago. But I think it's just

(03:32):
it's remarkable just to show the turnaround, you know, especially
like Montreal and here Edmonton kind of building back. Like
it's not the Edmonton name, it's that the team was garbage,
you know for the last couple of years here and
we're you know, I think you can rebuild. You see
the Lions, and it's not just the concerts, but like
talk about I guess just seeing Montreal, was it sold out?
And a Joey Alfieri friend of the show posted, you know,

(03:55):
right before I think the end of the first quarter.
I saw his photo. I mean, you couldn't fit another
person into those stands.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, for sure. It's great to see.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
And I think, you know, it goes along to what
I've always thought is that, you know, as you said,
the three markets that everybody points to that traditionally struggle
in the CFL in terms of attendance, you know, b C,
Montreal and Toronto. I've always thought that you know, b
C in Montreal more of a in relation to team success,
whereas Toronto's had some good years and they just haven't

(04:25):
been able to really get that attendance to really grow
in a substantial way. Last year they had you know,
a pretty good growth with the great season that they had,
but I'd be interesting to see what the numbers are
this year for them. But like I said, I think,
you know, Montreal now that they have a relevant team again,
they have solid ownership behind them. They went through a
really rough patch like before, you know, the Vernon Adams

(04:47):
era in Montreal. A couple of years ago. They were
in a really rough position as a franchise. They had
missed the playoffs I think like five of six years
or something like that since Anthony Calvio had left, So
they were in a rough spot. But I think at
the end of the day, they are in a really
good position right now because of the recent success they've
made on and off the field.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah, we got a lot of feedback.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
We don't get too many like negative, but you know,
a lot of We were talking last week and I
have my take about the noise and the noise makers,
and I still maintained it makes it feel a little bit,
uh you know, County fair whatever, right I think that, uh,
everything else aside from that, like the CFL feels like
a really hot product right now. I mean at least
from my you know, from from my perspective here in

(05:30):
the States and watching I have people texting me how
can we watch the games? I have other players you
texting me like, Hey, my friends playing for the Argos,
or I got this guy starting here.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
How can we watch?

Speaker 1 (05:41):
You know, we're still fighting through that CFL Plus and
you know, the CBS Sports Network and kind of all that.
It's not quite ideal, but I don't know. I just
think it's really cool. We've kind of riden through the
dol drums coming out of COVID, and I would be
the first to say that those seasons weren't the best
kind of from a from a gameplay. It took a
while to get back, but uh, it feels to me

(06:01):
like it's probably the best it's been at least the
time obviously that we've been covering it, but at least
in the last few years.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
It's really exciting. We have a question here about MBT.
We will talk. Yeah he played.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
I think he's not going to play this week, but
we you know, the Alex will talk through all that stuff.
Let's get to I guess we can just look at
the standings real quick, because I should have had this
ready to go here because I want to talk.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
We have the.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Alouettes Big Alouettes Lions game here but Winnipeg here still
top of the top of the West. Here, BC kling
away with all that, and Ottawa here is like the
hottest thing in the history of the world here at
this point.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
I mean, you know, fronto game.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
We'll talk about that, but you know, just flying around
the route, around the field fast, you know, getting interceptions,
playing hard defense. I mean that to me, biggest I
guess shocking storyline right now if you were to ask me,
we expected BC to be good. Okay, Winnipeg they were
kind of poo poo we here at the beginning, but
they've kind of built their way back up. But out
of what here looking like a really, really competent football team.

(07:02):
Is that your surprise or what's kind of just snapshot
of you here your most surprising thing here September tenth.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
I think Ottawa definitely is the biggest surprise when you
look at it, and I think, you know, when you
think about what they've done the last few years, just
the struggles that they've went through, this is just you know,
even if they were to lose every single game the
rest of the season, I'm pretty sure that probably still
would make the playoffs. Like it's been that remarkable of
a start to the season or two thirds of the
season for the Red Blacks, and I'm really happy to

(07:32):
see that for them. I think, you know, it's just
been you know, a lot of credit needs to be
given to the people in that building for turning that around.
Bob Dice, a guy that I didn't really have that
much faith in last year, in this first year as
a head coach, I think, just really making some really
positive strides with that team. They're clearly playing together as
a unit, and I think they're you know, it's all

(07:53):
three phases kind of team. I think it's really one
of those teams that you look at and it's really
all three phases of the team are really contributing to victory.
It's not like one thing that you can point to
with them, and just overall team effort on a week
to week basis. And we'll get to their performance this week.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
And I think I was reading that if Ottawa because
I got the emails out of Ottawa and Hamilton this week.
If they win, I think they clinch a playoff spot.
I mean, I think that it's that close to them
clinching And I was thinking about this obviously and will
transition here.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
To the Lions game.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
But you know, God willing the Lions make it to
the Great Cup. God willing, you know, the Lions win
the Great Cup, there will be a lot of narrative
of like, well, they really bought this, right, I mean,
they brought back Nathan Wurke and they're kind of circumventing
the cap and they got Matthew Betts and they have
Berndon Adams there and they're really kind of all that stuff.
Ottawa's doing this, you know, like you said, just Sean

(08:47):
Burke and them just strong team building. You know, Drew Brown,
you know, they got him from Winnipeg coming in here,
like you know, because because in my mind, you would
want Montreal and BC to be in the Gray Cup, right,
I think that would be the mark cast not you
know if that's the helm Cats figure, I don't think
we can get in this season, Jason, But no, like
but but but you know, so I'm watching that game

(09:09):
and then I'm watching the Auto game. I'm like, I
could see Ottawa in there and they it just feels
like they did it a different way. Does that make sense?
Where it feels like BC just kind of rolled out
the dumb truck of cash where maybe Ottawa has been
kind of really slow kind of building here the last
couple of years. Unless I'm totally misreading that, but that
was kind of what I was thinking to that.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Well.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
I think with Ottawa, you get the new quarterback in there.
I think that really helps. And the fact that you know,
Drew Brown did suffer an injury earlier this year, but
he only missed a couple of games. That's been a
thing that's really plagued that franchise the last couple of seasons.
Obviously Mazzoli suffering back to back season ending injuries really
crushing blow to this team the last couple of years.
Who knows what they could have been. I don't think

(09:47):
they'd be as good as they are right now, but
they certainly could have been better than they were the
past couple of seasons if their quarterbacks had stayed healthy.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
So I think just.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Getting Drew Brown and bringing him into the building, I
think that brings a new life in into this team.
And I think, you know, other aspects of the team
retaining Bob Dice when some people thought maybe they should
have moved on after the rough first season that he had.
I think that was a very wise decision, Sean Burke
really putting together a lot of good pieces, carrying forward

(10:16):
a couple of pieces from previous years teams. So I
think that's been a big reason for their success this season.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
It just thinks they did that whole behind the art
and I don't know if they're doing I've been really
busy this summer. If they're still doing the behind the
r thing with the with the Red Blacks on YouTube.
It felt like last year they were doing that. There
was all this time going into the seeds and then
it was only gets hurt and it was just like
a toilet plunge. So it's good to see them kind
of the hard work with that, you know. So speaking
of you know, teams, all this stuff here the BC Lions,

(10:47):
I'm not sure why there we go.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Maybe we just need to have so much dead space there.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
I was, rightfully so a little nervous going into this game,
you know, BC. Okay, we get a win, Okay, we're
kind of building back. We beat Ottawa, we did the
whole touchdown Pacific thing.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Neither work.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Stat line here looks worse than it is if you
watched the game. I think a couple of those interceptions
weren't on him. And this was the Williams Standback Invitational.
I mean, really we've seen him move into this. But
I tweeted that after the game because we were at dinner,
we were going to a concert Friday, and you know,
I was watching the score command tweet out. You know,
I needed to see BC beat a good team before

(11:26):
they before I kind of proclaimed that they were back. No,
it turns out Ottawa, it looks like they're you know,
the hottest thing, like I already said, on the top
of the world. But BC beat Montreal in Montreal, sold
out tremendous victory. From my standpoint, you know, it feels
like this was a real team effort for that.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
What was your takeaway?

Speaker 1 (11:43):
And I love that we're getting these far Han like
Soliloque's these ten minutes. I told Farhan, I said, the
Mark cast is trademark, so yeah, he's got to go
with far Han casts. But this was this was a huge,
a huge win. I mean huge win for BC. I
don't think there's any other way to put it.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
Yeah, you have to say this is a statement win
for bees. See, I think you know, other lot of
aspects of that team are really rounding into shape right now.
It was a rough start when Rurke came back, but
I think every week, I think it is his fourth
game back, every week's been a little bit better. In
this week is really when it started to turn into
all this maybe a really good team going down the

(12:17):
stretch here, and uh, you know, looking at their schedules
I looked at beforehand, I think, you know, I really
like their chances of finishing first in the West, even
though they're tied with Winnipeg right now and Winnipeg has
that season series, I think that, you know, looking forward,
I think BC has a very good chance of finishing first.
And there seemed like a team that traditionally is very.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Hot and cold.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
They have these these hot stretches like they had at
the beginning of the season, and then obviously they had
that stretch where they lost five in a row. So
I think we could see them get really hot now.
And uh, you know, after beating a team of Montreal's caliber,
I think that's huge. And you know, like you said, William, standback,
I think that can't be an you can't overstate the
impact of that aspect of this team, because that's something

(13:02):
that they haven't had really since James Butler left to
go to Hamilton. I think that you know, having a
guy that, you know, Williams standback is actually leading the
league in rushing right now. Surprisingly he's really heated up
over the past month or so. So I think he's
done a remarkable job. And I think having that balance
offensively gives me confidence that maybe they could beat Winnipeg

(13:23):
in a playoff game, especially if they get it at
BC Place.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
And this was just kind of a weird game, Like
we said, you know, Nathan with the three interceptions, two
of those are off you know, players hands, you get
those weird kind of float in the air and it's
you know, it's part has.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Fallen apart whatever.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
But then he had like that David Mackie touchdown on
the QB you know, the QB sneak, and then they
had the same one with Rourke where and he ended
up going around and you figure, you know, for BC
to turn the ball over like that, you know, multiple times,
you know, just still win right by two scores here
in Montreal, just really impressive because to me, and we've
said out here before, you know, Nathan Worrick can be

(14:00):
as efficient and great as he wants to be. But
you gotta be able to you know, stop the other team.
And it felt like BC, you know, we was able
to not let Montreal kind of you know, cash in
on all those mistakes, if that makes sense, But just
more of a team effort than this like, well, we're
going to score more and hope that, you know, hope
that we can outscore the other team, which I don't
think is a way to look at especially when you
go there to get someone like Winnipeg that so hard

(14:20):
knows here coming up later in the winter. But I
don't know, just feels like a lot of momentum the
h Well, I guess I want to ask you about
the gun Metal jerseys here before we move on from
the game, because I did see that. But yeah, what
do you attribute just stand back finally they're figuring out
here we got to get the run game together because
we've been talking about this all season.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know what it is and
how the run games finally got going. I think maybe
stand Back's one of those backs that you know, needs
a good amount of touches in order to really make
his impact and really up break down a defense. And
you see he gets twenty carries in this game, and really,
you know, gets back to that Williams stand back. We
had a couple of years ago when he was averaging

(15:01):
six yards per carrie and really was I think he
was the runner up for the MLP that year. So
I think he's a guy that really can be an
impact player. Definitely has way more left in the tank
than I thought. At the beginning of the season, I
thought that, you know, Montreal was pretty justified in moving
on from him. I thought that Walter Fletcher kind of
fit their offense better at this point because Montreal kind

(15:23):
of running that West Coast style of offense, throwing to
the running back a bit more and stand back it's
Deverbly his forte. But you know, so I had some
questions about his fit and BC. But I think, you know,
now that I've seen this in action and seeing it
develop throughout the season, I think you're starting to see
it make a huge impact for this team. And you
know that's despite BC's offensive line not really being the

(15:46):
best the last month or so. I think that the
pass protection has definitely not been the best since Nathan
Rourke's return. But regardless, the playmakers are still getting it done,
especially stand back in the backfield.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, you look here, and I'm just looking at the
receivers right. Obviously Alexander Hollands continuing kind of to lead that,
but really well distributed their ride, and like you said before,
you see standback in they're getting receiving yards as well,
but really no standout of that. It's just kind of
you know, death by a thousand cuts. For Nathan, it
just feels like he can just distribute it better that way.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Ride.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
He's not like locked in, Okay, this is my guy.
I think we get that sometimes, you know, like I
don't know, with Ottawa, I've criticized or wide receiver room
and you're you're higher on it than I am.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
But like, okay, we got we got one guy. We're
going to or whatever.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
You know, we saw that with the Jets last night
and you know, going to Garrett Wilson over and over
again trying to make that happen. It just seems to
me like Nathan just has you know, a myriad of
options here can kind of distribute how he wants to
am I kind of correct and how I'm looking at that.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
No, absolutely, I think that, you know, I think it's
it's very different in the CFL and compared to the NFL.
I think the NFL you can have like that one
receiver that you base the majority of your game plan around.
I think in the CFL you really do need four
receiver operating at a high level in order to have
a very good passing offense, and I think BC has that.

(17:05):
I mean, obviously Hollins, and Hollins has had a couple
of rough weeks before this, so it's good to see
him have a good game because he's kind of been
a little bit up and down. Had a scorching start
to the season where I thought that he could be
the best receiver in the CFL this season. So good
to see him have a good game. But you know,
mckinnis obviously continuing his great season. Ke On Hatcher getting

(17:27):
into the mix more. Obviously, he came off the injury
last year, so it's good to see him starting to
get more and more into the fold as the season
goes along. So that's a three headed monster right there.
And then any given week, if one of these guys
like Javon Katoy or Aiden Aberhart can really step up
and then be a difference maker, I think that's huge
and really necessary in the CFL game to have success

(17:49):
throwing the ball on a weekly basis.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Looking here at Montreal, you know Cody Fine, I mean,
he was making plays with this thing that we always see,
that kind of running around. I take from that with
do you credit BC's defense or you know Montreal, you know,
putting up twenty three points but not nearly obviously enough
to win, but not maybe as much as they were
accustomed to either.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Yeah, so this goes back to my point about Montreal
being more of like a West Coast style offense. You
look at the amount of carries that they gave Walter
Fletcher in this game and you compare it to the
box scores that they've had in previous weeks. They're not
a team that gives a lot of carries to their
running backs. And what they do is they throw the
ball more to the running backs to subsidize that. And

(18:32):
you look at Fletcher with eight catches. You know, so
maybe if one critique about Montreal is that, you know,
maybe they don't run the ball as much as they could.
But you know, honestly, I don't have much critique with
Montreal given the fact that they're still ten and two
at this point of the season, and as we saw
with Toronto last year, the CFL is not kind to

(18:53):
these juggernaut regular season teams. Usually those are the teams
that ball flat in the playoffs. Look at Winnipeg a
couple of years ago against to win the Great Cup.
So I think it's good to lose a couple of
games along the way in a way. So I'm really
interested to see how the rest of their season goes.
But I'm not overly concerned with them yet. One thing
I would say that could be a problem area for

(19:14):
them right now is the receiving cores injuries. Austin Mack,
who just got back from the NFL immediately gets injured
unfortunately on the six game injured list.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
That's very unfortunate.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
And then Jalen Jail and philbot Tyson Phil Pott he
has been injured the last several weeks, so the receiving
core is not what it was a few weeks ago
or at the beginning of the season. And hopefully that
can get healthy down the stretch for them. But like
I said, not overly concerned about this team. And they
lost to a really good Lions team.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Well and that's the thing, like you said, with this
hot and cold with the Lions, you just got to
keep it up here, right, You're going, you're going into
you know, Toronto's coming in next weekend, right, You're gonna
be back at home show up. Toronto is really on
the roads right now. We'll talk about their game next.
Let's you know, let's let Matthew Bennett's feast on some
Chad Kelly and let's hopefully, you know, kind of continue,

(20:06):
you know. I don't know if it's a downward spiral
of Chad Kelly, and it's certainly interesting. We were talking
about the Toronto of it all, and you know, I
don't think people are super high on them right now.
Just give it kind of all that stuff off the field.
But yeah, no, like nothing, like you said, nothing, don't
take anything away from Montreal. I gloucest a really good team.
I just left here really wanting to see this game again,
you know, whether in the Gray Cup or whatever, but

(20:28):
just really exciting to see two teams kind of ascending
and with Rourke finally kind of getting back to and
we've had all of this and it was funny. I
think someone posted on Twitter. I don't know if it
was the CFL rather or whatever, but you know you
had the Austin three sixteen, right, that was the shirt
he wore for a long time. And I don't know
if you're a wrestler but a wrestling fan, but it

(20:49):
was you know, they talked about John three sixteen and
Austin three sixteen. So I just whipped your ass and
that was his That was his saying, and that they
need to make a Rourke shirt that says Rourke thirty one.
And then and then say, hey, you know, thanks far Han.
That's all I have to say. But good to kind
of get back to football. Any other takeaways from this game?

Speaker 4 (21:09):
Ah No, I'm just trying to think of this team.
These two teams have played twice this season. I think
they may actually be playing again this regular season coming up.
But I agree this would be a great Great Cup matchup.
I'm obviously we're both gonna be there. I think I
would be more than happy with this matchup, probably the
happiest of any possible matchup going into the Great Cup

(21:29):
this season.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
There you go, Week twenty, that would be a big one,
could be could be in contention, you know there for
for the you know, trying to get first in the
West or kind of stat that.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
The other thing.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, I got I saw the tweet last night and
I got the email today the gun Metal jerseys coming
back to pre order.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
I'm torn. I don't want to I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Be like a mark and like, oh I got to
get the Nathan Rourke whatever are we excited? The gun
Metal jerseys are back, and I wish we could do
some other Maybe you can do the customization, say the
other ones I didn't really look like.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
That feels like so basic to get the Nathan Warrick
gun Metal jersey right now.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
Yeah, I'm just doing a quick Google search of what
these look like.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
I uh, showing well, yeah, because you got to look
at the one from the past, like they're just showing.
But it's funny, like they brought Nathan Arck back and
they're like, well, you've been asking for these. We're gonna
sell me on the paper. We got the pay for
that marketing budget, like we got to start printing some jerseys.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
But I think that's cool. I think people have been
asking for him.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
I wish I was on like a list, like maybe
a Donnie and Doll or whatever that we could get
some jerseys. I think we're quite at that level. I
told Baker that at one point when they when they
came out with the blackout and the and the fog ones,
and I said, my goal is to be in the
list someday where I'm included in that where I get
sent the jerseys to show off.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
But I don't know. I think it's cool. I think
people like that.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
I'm excited people have been asking for him, they were
gonna wear them against Toronto, and it's to send me
and Danni versy. I mean a lot of big stuff
here coming up with the game on Friday.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
Yeah, I'm always you know, I'm always happy when teams
bring new jersey to the fold. I think it's there's
no really harm in it. I think that, like you
said it, it can boost merchandise sales. I think that's
an important thing for a club. I think, just to
get some renewed interest in the brand. I think, you know,
even though BC has changed their jerseys a few times

(23:18):
in recent years, I think that, you know, especially diss
in jersey like this can't hurt. But I'm not you know,
I'm not too enthused by the jersey itself. I think
that I prefer like the way jersey that they have
right now, as you know, a gray uniform. I'm not
a huge fan of the Hamilton's gray uniforms, the Maiden

(23:39):
the Hammer jerseys. You know a lot of people like them,
but you know, I'm not a huge fan of those.
I just prefer the regular homes. But I think ultimately, yeah,
like I think it's harmless to experiment with new jerseys
every now and then.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
I'll tell you those. I still those Edmonton ones are
so fire. I love those. I was watching the game
today with the Calgary I mean, it's just really really
hot jerseys. Let's move on here. This was so again,
Like this is one of those things like I see
the score and you know, because I had a wedding,

(24:14):
I had a destination wedding on Saturday, I had to
get up early, drive out there and then spend the
night and.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
I'm seeing the score.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
This very nearly could have been fifty or you know,
what was it forty eight to twenty where if what's
his name?

Speaker 3 (24:31):
What the hell is his name?

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Oh, I'm totally space and they got to play for
the Lions. Who the heck is Dominic Rymes. If Don
Rhymes hadn't dropped the ball with the one yard line
got it punched out. This is very nearly like a
fifty burger by Ottawa. And this Chack Kelly is Chack
Kelly washed. I mean I put in the group chat
like Chad Kelly, more like ask Kelly.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
I mean, this is just horrendous.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Well, I like to think that it's kind of like
a karma thing.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
You see how Deshaun Watson's playing in the NFL, Like
and just like I don't know, like Shaun Watson, you
think with him is he had the year off in
between and when he came back, like I wasn't expecting
him to light the world on fire. But maybe you know,
like by now, you would have expected Deshaun Watson to
kind of be back a little bit to the player
he used to be, but it just hasn't been the case.

(25:21):
So maybe we're seeing a similar thing develop here with Kelly.
But I mean, I think there's still enough good stuff
here just seeing him in person on Labor Day. He
definitely had some off plays, Like there was one that
he ran into the back of his own offensive lineman.
He basically did the butt fumble without doing the butt
the fumble. But you know, I think ultimately, you know,

(25:42):
the interceptions are concerning a couple of them. Weren't his
fault in this one obviously, the deflections, but sometimes those
are on the quarterback as well, just being off target
throws that get popped up into the air. So I
don't think he's completely washed or anything like that. I
think we definitely need a better sample size. They're bigger
sample size going down the stretch here, But it's definitely

(26:02):
different vibe from what we saw last year with them,
when he was just nothing was going, you know, against him.
Last year, there was no adversity based throughout the entire season.
Believe he was fifteen to zero in the regular season
last year as a starter or something like that, something
insane like that.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
So then they ended up pulling him right like they won,
they pulled him, and then we had that whole debate. Yeah,
he was, yes, very I don't think he had lost
yet in the regular season.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
Yeah, So it's like, you know, he's already faced so
much more adversity in these first three starts coming back,
so I want to see how he responds from that. Obviously,
as illustrated not to be the most mature guy in
the world. Uh So we'll see how he deals with
that down the stretch. But the Argos, I think one
concern I would say with them is their offensive line

(26:48):
compared to last year. The offensive line was ridiculously good
last year. I think they allowed thirteen sacks in the
games that ched Kelly started last regular season. They've already
allowed ten and three games. I forgot who tweeted that,
but that was one stat that really popped out to me. So,
you know, that's definitely a concern going forward because having

(27:09):
that elite level protection is definitely not a given in
you know, in today's CFL, it.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Was just really a comedy of errors where it's save
for the you know, the dominic rhymes kind of punch
out there at the at the end, you know, the
end zone. Like it was, every time Chad throw the
ball went up, Ottawa got it. Where there were fumbles,
Ottawa got it. Ottawa would fumble, they would hop back
on it. It was like anything in the world that could
go right with right for Ottawa for the most part,

(27:37):
and then everything that could go wrong where you know,
we saw this last week and Chad just finally gets
to a point and he's just kind of running through
guys and trying to push and trying to press and
throw the ball down the field, like you said, getting
into these deflections or or pops the hands and goes out,
you know, someone else scrabs. It just felt like anything
in the world that could have gone right for Ottawa
for the most part, did and everything for Toronto.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Ottawa right undefeated at home this year, which is insane.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Because I think it was even as early as last
season they you know, they were on.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Like the home where they had won at home and.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
You know two years or whatever they were part of
that with Edmonton, and like what the turnaround for them?
I mean, like I said, I didn't for years, I've thought, like,
what is their Ottawa Red Black's identity?

Speaker 3 (28:20):
You know, what is it like to be a fan?
What is there?

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Shoot?

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Man?

Speaker 1 (28:24):
They were flying around the field, jumping on balls, tackling guys,
just black kind of running around black uniforms.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Like it felt really cool. It felt like years ago.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
When I turned on it was the first Montreal game
that I saw, and their defense was insane and you
had the Sewels of the world and like they're tackling
guys and pounding guys like man like okay, like Montreal,
Like they're really like hard hitting defense, like that's where they're.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Going to go.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
I just felt like Odiwa was all over the field.
It felt like they were scooping up everything. Just really
exciting team to watch, where Ottawa has really not been
excited at all to watch the last couple of years.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
I think the energy with this team is very apparent
when you look at it on a week to week basis.
They're playing extremely hard for their coach. I think that
the defense is hitting really hard. I think they're forcing turnovers,
which is always a great combination to winning football games
no matter what their offense is doing, and their offense
has been in general taking care of the ball this season,

(29:22):
improved quarterback play from what we've seen the past couple
of years with them. All of it adds up to
being you know, what is it? Eight three and one
football team team right now. Pretty impressive by the Red Blacks,
you know, I think one thing that I would hope
for for them is for them to have one good
home game without you know, Rain, I was talking to Evan,

(29:42):
who was actually in audible this weekend, there was he
was saying there was rain, you know, in the forecast,
and it did rain a bit during the broadcast I
was hearing. So hopefully they have some good weather home
games on the horizon so they can enjoy this great
football team they have right now.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
In terms of I'm just trying to look here, compare
obviously Drew Brown and all this. I mean, this Chad
Kelly line is insane. Thirty six and fifty six, four
hundred and sixty three yards obviously throwing all the you know,
the interceptions. But you know, it's not like they weren't
moving the ball. It's not like they weren't trying.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
I saw in the afterward at the end of the game,
you know, Bob Dice shaking did with these hands, and
you know, Bob Dice Coach of the Year for me
right now. I don't know if you disagree with that,
but I don't know, Like I don't know what Toronto
does here. Obviously, you know, once you get behind, you
can't run the ball. We see all that, but I mean,
dance for Chad Kelly is pretty insane.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
That line to see, Yeah, especially when you have you know,
a really good running back and Kadeem Caro, you think
you'd want to give them the ball a little bit more.
But like you said, the game script kind of dictated
being down that many points in the first half, Like
what were they down thirty one to three at halftime,
So yeah, you really had to throw the ball at
that point.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
And the fact that he kept.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
On throwing and pick six is you know, got them
right back on the field for even more pass attempts.
So fifty six passes is way too many passes for
any quarterback to be throwing into CFL game. I think
the you know, the sweet spot is around that thirty
to thirty five attempt mark. I think that's really an
ideal thing if you want to have balance on offense.
So I think ultimately, I think, you know, the argos,

(31:23):
not all hope is lost with them. I think that
Chad Kelly, you know, he's still moving the ball, like
he said, I think they still have enough playmakers on them,
you know, that side of the ball to be confident.
And I think there was a couple of passes. There
was one to Demonte Coxy that he just missed that
would have went for a touchdown. So I mean, if
they clean stuff like that up, and especially the turnovers,

(31:44):
I think they have a chance to turn it around.
But you know, I think this week is gonna be
a huge test for them on Friday night going into BC.
You know, traditionally East teams do not travel well to
BC play, so we'll see how they show up in
that one.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
We got Blake checking in here into the saying how's
it going? Long time though talk and he's chatting in
with you asking me when am I going to BC again?

Speaker 3 (32:07):
I might I might be going to that.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
I'm just looking at my looking at my schedule, and
I want to make sure that I have this.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Where is the did I look at that wrong? I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
That's Saturday, October nineteenth, Montreal at BC. That could be
I could be there.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
I could be there. That seems easy.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Do an early flight up games at four. I think
that would be fun better than the Friday night drive
we did last year. That took like four and a
half hours and we got to the got to the
hotel literally as kickoff was happening, and luckily it was
across the street from BC Place, who we just like
threw our bag on the bed and just ran across
the streets. But that might be a little bit easier.
But I just put that on my calendar October nineteenth.

(32:51):
That could be a big time game here. Calgary is
going to be at Seattle playing the Kraken, but we
might be going up there to the BC. We'll see
in terms of like we said, the defense dame a
web here, right, two interceptions, we're both of those pick
sixes for the Red Blacks.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
I mean he just had the same game.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
Yeah, that was the first time in franchise history, actually
that a Red Black player has returned two interceptions for
a touchdown in the same game. So and I think
that's one of only eight players in CFL history to
accomplish that. So pretty rarefied air.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Heck yeah for him. Anything else on this one.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Like I said to me, Bob Dice, do we do
Coach of the Year in the CFL?

Speaker 4 (33:31):
Right?

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Would you put Bob Dice on there right now?

Speaker 4 (33:34):
I think you kind of have to have him as
the favorite right now, just given the baggage that this
team has had the last several years. I think you know,
that's usually what the coach of the Year goes to
in sports. You look at the NHL, for example, it's
always the team that's the most surprising, that overachieves the
most in the people's eyes, that usually wins that award.
And I would say Bob dice is is definitely the

(33:56):
favorite right now.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
All right, anything else on this one.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
No, I think let's move on to the other two.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
I've seen. We've seen this before.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Saskatchewan starts hot down the word Spiral, lost the Labor
Day Classic, lost the Banjo Bowl, you know, Winnipeg top
of the West. Here, it's like they never left thoughts
on this one because I just obviously it's not the
same team when you had coach Phil like we've seen
this script from Saskatchewan the last couple of seasons.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
Okay, so first of all, I think these two games
between Saskatchewan and Winnipeg, you know, the Labor Day Game
as well as the Banjo Bowl, both great games. Came
down to the wire, both of them. So no complaints
from that standpoint as a neutral fan watching them. But
you know, just seeing Saskatchewan struggle like this, and you know,
they haven't had a win since I believe it's like

(34:49):
July tenth or something like that. They really collapsed down
the stretch here, and we haven't even really hit the
true stretch rue of the CFL season yet, So maybe
they turn it around and they end that co cold
spell unlike you know, the the last couple of years.
So maybe there's still hope for them. I think Trevor
Harris is playing pretty well for them, Like despite the
two interceptions, I thought he played pretty well in this

(35:11):
game and played really well on Labor Day, so that's
a bright spot for them. I think their receiving core
has been really good. But you know, it's just I
don't know what to point to with the sketch one.
They're just not They're just not making the plays right
at the end of the games to ultimately win. I
think maybe discipline has something to do with it. Maybe
they're just running into the wrong team on the wrong week.

(35:33):
You know, maybe if they had won that game against
Oddwell that ended up in the tie, things could have
been a little bit different for them. But you know,
it's it's just tough to see them, you know, faalter
week after week, just given the fact that they are
a better team than what the record shows right now.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
In my opinion, Trevor Harris look pissed I mean just
like really upset. You figure, you know, Winnipeg comes into
your home last week wins you got.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
The WINNI peg lose.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Uh. He did not look happy. Corey Mason look happy obviously.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Just disappointment.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
I mean it's not like there's any craziness in that,
but yeah, it's just you know, you knew it wasn't
sustainable when they started the season, what was it six
and oh or whatever, Like you knew that wasn't sustainable
and obviously they were going to face some adversity. But
it's really come tumbling down here in Winnipeg. Kolaros looks
like he never left really efficient here. Twenty four thirty one,

(36:25):
we saw the write the Strebler injury. Do we know
how long he's out for? Where was it James Is
saying that they were saying Jeff Hamilton in front of
the show loved Jeff, that they might have Cornelius come
back because of the injury the Strebbler is he is
he out for the long term?

Speaker 3 (36:40):
I hadn't seen that yet.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
I haven't seen an update on the injury. But it
looked very serious. Yeah, it looked really really bad. I
don't I don't think people are going to agree with
me necessarily, But I don't necessarily think it was like
the most dirty hit in the world. I think that
during that you know, short yarded situation, I think, uh,
sometimes that just happens. You're just really trying to do

(37:03):
anything to kind of stop the forward momentum of the
ball carrier. Uh So, unfortunately it was Miles Brown, who's
been He's the guy that injured Drew Brown earlier this season,
and he's the guy that didn't head butt but made
head contact with Zach Clearis the week before on Labor Day,
So it's unfortunate that he was involved yet again. But
I don't think this particular hit was necessarily a dirty one.

(37:26):
Hopefully Streveler can return at some point this season. Wish
him all the best. I think he's an all accounts
a good guy. I think that, you know, it's really
cool that he came back to the CFL just giving
them you know what he went through in the NFL,
just bouncing around a little bit down there and staying
down there for a bit.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
So, you know, I wish him all the best.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
But I think at the end of the day, you know,
it's it's it's tough to see him like that, but uh,
I think you know Saskatchewan, Uh, you know, it's it's
it's unfortunately they're the team that always keeps getting wrapped
up in these uh kind of dirty hit incidents. Obviously
the Garrett Marino thing a couple of years ago. Don't
want to rehash that too much, but it just unfortunately

(38:06):
that it always seems to be them that kind of
become the target of this and they kind of have
to try to defend their players.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
So well, speaking of Evan had just posted this in
our group Chow, we.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Have some breaking news, Streveler.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
This is from his Instagram or his social media tour.
I have the three ligament tears in the banjo bowl,
so it sounds like he had. This just came out.
Evan just posted this three down, so certainly not good
for him. So yeah, maybe it's corn Dog, maybe it's
someone else, but it certainly doesn't look like he's going
to be playing anytime soon.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Thank you to everyone he's reached out with the last a
couple of days.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Especially my teammates just thinks, like you said, he comes back.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
It's the big oh my gosh, the hero return.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
And we have a social media post right with the
cowboy hat and the jacket or whatever, and Streveler's coming back.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
But I agree, I don't I saw, I don't. I don't.
Didn't feel like it was that dirty.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
I think I feel like the short yardage in the
CFL is so set up for the offense.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
It's anyway with the.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yard off the ball and all that, like it's damn
near impossible. Like you're, like you said, you're just doing
anything in the world to try to stop that. It
was kind of like Philadelphia with the tush push, where
like if you're in the defense, you're anything in the
world you can do, and lunging and jumping and you know,
diving and whatever.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
They kind of stop that.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Thoughts on Streveler here, probably out for the season, right,
I gotta be not good.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Yeah, that's that's terrible to hear.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
I mean, anytime you're talking about knee ligament damage, I
think you're talking about you know, months, not weeks in
terms of recovery. So all the best to him in
his recovery. Hope to see him back in the CFL
next season. You know, in terms of the you know,
what they could do in terms of the backup quarterback situation,
the short yardage quarterback position, Tannor Cornelius is not the

(39:47):
worst option.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
In terms of that. I think that he was very
poorly utilized Needmonton.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
I thought he really should have been used as the
short yardage guy from you know, the very beginning of
the time he got there, because that's what you in
short yards is a bigger guy that you know, has
that reach and the ability to get across the first
down marker. So I think he could be effective if
they bring him in in that capacity. I'm kind of
shocked that he wasn't brought in by any CFL team
this offseason. I just thought somebody would fall in love

(40:14):
with the physical tools. But I guess that the game
take was just really that bad from his time with Edmonton.
But yeah, I don't think it would be the worst move.
So it would be interesting to see what they do
in terms of that short yardge quarterback situation.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Well, yeah, because that's what they was like, Oh, Cornelis
he's just so big, he's just so tall, Like he's
just so and you're like, yeah, but he's not, Like okay,
so let's you know, let's sign all these receivers to
half million dollar deals.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Or whatever the heck it was. It was it Kenny Lotway.
Wasn't he there? Who was the guy there was two
years ago?

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Yeah, like let's bring him in for four hundred grand
and have it's like park in the park in the
Ferrari in front of a trailer park.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Like it's just not gonna work out.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
So anyway back to this, Claro's looking good. You know,
this is just like a Winnipeg game, Like nothing really outstanding.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Olivera got some yards.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
You know, like White had doing a little bit like
it just they win the defense they had White, they
had the blocked pun on that right returned. That was
part of it. You know, a couple of different swings
that way. But you know, Winnipeg do just enough and
they're not going to give up the ball too often
and any other takeaway from that. I mean he just
felt like this kind of your standard Winnipeg win and

(41:24):
really seemed to be in control for most of it.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
Yeah, it's just a classic Winnipeg you know, the way
that they've been playing the last month, like I think
they've won five in a row now, it's been really
special to see them turn their season around. I kind
of left them for dead. I thought, you know, maybe
they can get it together and make the playoffs, but
it looks like they're gonna be charging their way to
the top of the West Division once again. So we'll

(41:48):
have to see how that plays out down the stretch.
But I think, you know, the aspects of their team
that are playing really well right now. I think their
defense has been really good for the last two months
or so. I think we've talked about that on pre
via shows. I think Brady Olivera is starting to look
like even though he didn't have the biggest game rushing
the ball in this one, he's starting to look like

(42:08):
MP Brady Olivera from from last year. So I think
he's really the straw that stirs the drink for them.
You know, the passing game is still not as explosive
as you know, I would have liked to see compared
to previous seasons, so that's something to keep an eye on.
Does that really get unlocked down the stretch. Obviously, Dalton
shown is not coming back, so that's a huge part

(42:29):
they're missing from previous seasons.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
But Kenny Lawler is now back.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
He's getting more you know, built into the offense again,
so I think you know, in the coming weeks, I'd
like to see that more from them. But I think
Zach Klaris, like if he could play even at this level,
they're a team that can win the Great Cup. They
just really need to avoid the turnovers. Zach Clari's actually
leading the league in intercepted this season.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
I do believe. So.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
I think, you know, like you said, like Blake says,
seven touchdowns thirteen interceptions on the year, you know, it's
not going to get it done most of the time.
But with the way that the other aspects of that
team are playing right now, I wouldn't count them out
in terms of winning the Great Cup, not at all.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
It just stinks because right BC lost the tiebreaker to
win the PEG. I think that's going to come back
to bite, right and so it's just one of the
I don't know, we'll see. You know, all you can
do is play the schedule you have with Mariners. Right now,
we've lost a lot of games that if we had won,
we'd be in a totally different situation that. You know,
all you can do is play the schedule in front
of you and you can't look back too much. But

(43:33):
I really disappoint you with that Saskatchewan here, you know,
still third Edmonton, and we're going to talk about that
next year.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Obviously gaining steam.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Would you put a fork in Saskatchewan you think they
can rebound here? I mean, they're still in the playoff
spot right now if the season ended.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
Well technically, I don't think you could really put a
fork in anybody except for maybe Hamilton right now.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
I think, you know, even Calgary.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
If Calgary somehow finds a way to win two games
in a row, they're they're in the conversation as well.
I mean, apparently they're going back to Jake Mayer.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
I was reading that.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
I was reading that just before we got on here.
But I think, you know, Saskatchwan, you definitely can't leave
them dead in the water yet. I think that the
tie that they got against Ottawa could come into play
here and could ultimately be the reason that they sneak
into the playoffs. Realistically, I think, you know, most teams
that make the playoffs, like, if you can just get

(44:27):
to eight wins, you're almost like almost nobody missed the
playoffs with eight wins in the CFL. So I think,
you know, Saskatchwan could win three of their last five games.
I think they have a very good shot of getting in,
maybe even if they win too and they get some
luck here from from Edmonton cooling off a bit, and uh,
you know, no other team really heating up down the stretch.

(44:48):
So I wouldn't count Saskatchwan out out just yet. But
I think just the way that they finished the last
couple of seasons, it's really is uh got to be
a scary feeling if you're a rough Riders fan, because
you know, here we go again, right.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Yeah, you know, I was just watching today and that
was it. I think it was Pat McAfee and you know,
like the Panthers, the good Carolina Panthers are horrible and like,
you know, you wait the entire offseason, then you come
in and like your team is just like absolute garbage
and like the Commander's lost and obviously, but you know,
we have we're kind of rebuilding, right, we got.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Jay Daniels coming in. We're kind of like, o hey,
let's figure this out.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
You know, you look at the Panthers, it's like a
total dumpster fire and this thing was discatching. Like you said,
you know, last couple of seasons, super disappointing.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
You get Corey Mason.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
There you come in, We're showing, Oh my god, we're
on the feet there, We're doing all this stuff, and
then really just crashing and burning. Like you said, they
haven't won a game forever. Super disappointing, but Calgary hanging
in here. I don't know for how much longer I
want to talk about this and this, this game, the
the you know, this was the Edmonton Invitational here.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
I think Logan Bonner and.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Chad Kelly could probably I mean could be friends here
with the amount of interceptions.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Uh, not a great start, I guess cure.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Okay, first off, thoughts of I don't know if that
was official when we recorded the last time.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
My thoughts on the mayor, Ben Sheen.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
We're putting Logan in, we're running with him now you
say you're reading there going back to him. But the
initial thoughts on that, Okay, we're sitting Jake, we're trying
something else.

Speaker 4 (46:18):
Yeah, well, in a vacuum. I definitely agree with the
decision to bench mayor. Originally, I think that, you know,
he just wasn't getting it done. I think you saw
the ceiling there. He didn't really you know, even though
statistically he was having an okay season. I think he's
at somewhere around like fifteen touchdowns, eleven picks, just nothing special,
and he's had good games, but he's also had some

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really bad games as well, So I think you just
saw that plateau with him. So I think you kind
of got the feeling that he really wasn't the guy
going forward, and you know they really needed to spark.
That's just nothing really is going well for this team.
So I don't think it's all on Jake Mayor with
how he's played this year, but I think you know,
they they needed to make a change at this point

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of the season. The problem was I don't think they
really had anybody to go to, and I don't think
Matthew Schultz is the answer either. Like just seeing as
saying as a Tie Cats fan that's seen in the
last couple of years, I bought into the Schltz hype
at certain points. But the one thing with him is
he always gets injured. Like it's just you can count
on it every single time. Every time that he's got

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a chance to start, like two or three consecutive games
in the CFL, he just always finds a way to
take a big hit. He always holds on the ball
too long and you know, takes a big hit in
the pocket. So I don't think he's the answer for
more than the game or two if they decide to
go that route. But you know, I think for them, unfortunately,
they're kind of stuck waiting for the off season to

(47:44):
address this quarterback situation.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Maybe they're the team that gets Vernon Adams Jr. I mean,
looking ahead to the off season.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
Maybe they're the team that really needs Vernon Adams Junior
to come in here, and you know, it's it should
be interesting to see what they do at that quarterback
position during the offseason. But for right now, I would
say that they're pretty screwed.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
That was gonna be my follow up question was because yeah,
I've seen that already, Like and they just need to
bet the farm and like whatever it takes to get
Vernon and just unload whatever.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
We have.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
John Burns here screaming Labor Day Monday Calgary, So not
this game, but Labor Day Monday, Calgary had eighteen yards
rushing in the entire game. It's the focus of what
they call not Jake Mahyer thoughts on that comment.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
Yeah, Like, I agree, they haven't given him the best support.
I think, you know, one thing that people don't really
talk about with this team is the injury to Malie Henry.
The past couple of seasons, two season ending injuries. This year,
he'd even get on the field at all. Last year
he played I think three or four games before having
a season ending injury. He was their best receiver two
years ago when Jake Mayer took hold of the starting

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job in Calgary. So that is a huge part of
that offense that's missing and they've never really been able
to truly replace that. And that's something that Calgary has
traditionally been very good at over the years, is replacing
you know, these skill position players that have left to
go elsewhere in free agency. So I think that, you know,
they definitely need to support the quarterback position better if

(49:10):
they want to have success going forward. I think that,
you know, with Mayor, he's one of those guys that
really is the victim of his circumstances as well. Like
I think that he is a guy that you know,
if you give him the right pieces, I think you
can have a solid team. I think what a couple
of years ago, even though he only took over a
midway through the season. They did have twelve wins with

(49:31):
him as the as the starter. So I think he can,
you know, have success in this league and be like
the sixth best quarterback on a yearly basis in the CFL.
But again, as I've said, you know a few months
ago when talking on this very show, where's that going
to get you in a nine team league when you, you know,
really need to be able to outduel these great quarterbacks
in those in those big games. And I don't think

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Mayor is really capable of doing that on a consistent basis.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
Logan Bother was awful.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
I mean just and I know, the first star and everything,
and obviously then you're down by a million and you're
you're pressing and I can't even remember who the who
the announcers.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
Were of the game, but it was right at the end.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
It was like the last play of the thing, and
he throws it up in the end zone. I don't
know if it was done again whoever, like that's a pig.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
It just lands in the eni zone.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
There's like four elk defenders and then whoever the hell
he was trying to throw it, like, oh, that's just
run it out, just get it done. I mean obviously
at that point it doesn't matter. You're just trying to
do anything. But like you know, they knew that the
second they went up like that, that's an interception.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Uh, speaking of.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
You know, quarterback, I don't know if we're gonna have
a quarterback controversy here, right, But Trey Ford coming back, right,
I think Dave Campbell was the one I think first
saw it put that out. Uh, you know him coming
back from injury. McLeod was four and one. I believe
with his his stead here and kind of whatever. Uh,
McLeod was good. You had the one really bad interception

(50:58):
I saw where he dropped back to was trying to
get it out and it goes in the other way.
But thoughts on that with McCloud here and tray Ford
and I mean, another good win for the Elks, and
do you risk going back to Ford?

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Do you keep right with what you have? What? What's
your thoughts on that?

Speaker 4 (51:13):
I think that you definitely go with tray Ford going forward.
I think he's the guy that provided a spark to
your season when you were an OH to seven football team.
I think ultimately he should get the first first shot.
He shouldn't have lost the job due to injury, so
I think they're doing the right thing giving him the
reins back. But ultimately, this is a good problem to have,

(51:34):
having two quarterbacks, even though they're completely different styles, playing
at a high level right now. I think, look, look
at this matchup with Calgary. They have, you know, two
quarterbacks that are playing better than any of Calgary's quarterbacks,
So I think that's a great sign for them going forward.
You know, we've seen quarterback injuries happen countlessly this year

(51:55):
in the CFL, so who's to say it couldn't happen again.
Tray Ford may go down again, McLeod have to come
back in or trey Ford may struggle in these back
to back games they have coming up against Winnipeg.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Maybe you can go back to the cloud.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
So it's a good problem to have, and especially with
them being two different styles of quarterbacks, it deafinitely gives
the defense a different lookout there. So I'm very interested
to see what they do going forward. But I do
think they're making the right move going back to Ford.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Man exciting team to watch right now hadn't been the
case for a while, and like you said, even with McLeod,
it's still exciting moving the ball. Like you said, it's
a trade four with that spark, But I mean, this
doesn't look like the same team a few weeks ago.
I mean, it is exciting, and Calgary is. I guess
it's a point flip. Calgary or Hamilton worst team in

(52:43):
the league right now.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
That is a tough question right now because these two
teams haven't played since Week one, But I would say
Calgary right now is looking worse. Just maybe it's recncy bias.
And Hamilton was on the buy this week so I
didn't get to see them lose. But the last time
I saw the Tycats play, they looked pretty damn good
on Labor Day, so maybe they have another late season

(53:07):
run left in them. But yeah, I would go with
Calgary as the worst team in the league right now,
and we haven't been able to say that for a
very very long time in the CFL.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Yeah, Kevin Brown looking good here, Lewis doing his thing curly.
Gidtens Junior had a couple of big grabs on that.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
I don't know, I just I like McLeod. That wasn't
against him.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Obviously, you want to give the reins back to trade
Ford for the long term.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
I guess what was it five hundred and fifty thousand
dollars Worth paid here to kind of keep them reliable
tray Ford.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
Was that with a rib injury?

Speaker 4 (53:39):
Yeah, I think it was around that salary. It's really
impressive to see what they've been able to do. I
think a lot of credit has to go to that
coaching staff, obviously, because obviously they haven't changed a whole
lot in terms of the players during the middle of
the season here after the firing of Chris Jones. So
I think a lot of it has to do with,
you know, the mentality and just the ability to keep
that locker room together, because this team definitely could have

(54:00):
quit after that zero to seven start to the season,
but uh, they scraped some wins together. They you know,
showed that they had some promise earlier in the season
where they were losing these close games just not going
their way, and now those games are starting to go
their way. And I think one of the things that
surprised me the most about them is their defense. I
think that their defense started out, like as predicted, pretty bad,

(54:23):
but I think when you start to look at the
pieces that are starting to develop, a good next year
of veterans in that that that defense with those younger
players that are starting to emerge. So I've been really
impressed with them on that side of the ball. They're
at least confident there. And I think on offense, you
can even say they're a pretty good offense right now
with the way they're playing some really good pieces. And

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mean when you look at the receiving core on paper,
if those guys all get going, you got Eugene Lewis,
curly Gettins junior herjimial is having a great year out
of nowhere. I thought he was he was destined to
be retired pretty soon. I thought he was gonna follow
the league. He's had a rate season out of nowhere.
So I think it's just tremendous what the Alcs have
been able to do. And I think the most important

(55:06):
thing to see there is the Tendants go back up.
I think to see even though they closed the Upper
Bowl this year, to see, you know, the lower Bowl
as packed as it was, or relatively speaking packed as
it was for that game, it was it was a
it was a great sight to see.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
No I agree with I was speaking of un expected
the brain drops that started following here I had or
what's going on?

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Uh no, it just it just really exciting.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
But to be fair and Evan did Zealer jogand you
or I could probably pick off Logan Bonder as well.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
I think we can probably.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Get too off of that here real quick, and then
we'll look at the schedule to get out here.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
John Lewis just checking in a big expansion talk.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
I saw John Lewis just had a UFL expansion video
on his YouTube channel, trying to milk as many of
those that John, it's it's the summer. Just the CFL
or bus right now, Go watch baseball, go watch whatever
hockey's picking back. But we'll see John Lewis check it
in here. We always appreciate that. Let's look here, I'm
too far ahead here because I was looking forward to

(56:07):
whatever weird. So three games this weekend we'll figure out
Toronto at BC. We've talked a little bit about that
BC homecoming wearing the gun, Mellow Grays and all that stuff.
Ottawa here coming into Hamilton and in Montreal.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
This could be a couple of blowouts one way or
a Then there's your thoughts on these three games, because
at Montreal could put up fifty points on Calgary and
hold them to about six.

Speaker 4 (56:31):
Well, I think the theme of this season has been,
you know, the parody starting to show up again in
the CFL. I think the last couple of years, the
last two years in particular, there wasn't any changes to
the standings. We were talking about that at the end
of last year, that no team had changed their spot
in the standings. I think you've seen this year the
bottom teams get closer to the top tier teams, even

(56:53):
Calgary earlier this season. If you think back, they went
into Montreal and they had a big halftime lead and
then they completely blew it. So I think that if
they can you know, replicate the start of that first
half in this game, I think maybe they can give
Montreal a game. I think they've actually played substantially better
at home this year than they have on the road.

(57:14):
Don't believe Calgary has a road win this year, but
I believe they have a winning record at home, so
I think they may have a chance to keep it
close in that one. I'd have to see the line,
but maybe if it was a crazy spread, I might
take Calgary to with the points.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
In that one.

Speaker 4 (57:30):
So yeah, I think that game could be interesting Outawa
and Hamilton all bee at that game. That is a
game that's actually gonna be televised on CTV, which is
a new thing that started last week with the Banjo Bowl.
So I think that's a great thing for the CFL
that we didn't touch on earlier. So you know, I
think that should be a good game, audible with a

(57:52):
chance to clinch the playoffs, like you said earlier. And
then you know, I think the Toronto BC game is
the one I'm looking forward to the most because just
Chad Kelly have that bounce back and does Nathan Rourke
continue his ascension the last few weeks. So I'm really
looking forward to that game.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Yeah, I'll be catching up on the Friday. We have
SmackDown here on Friday or earlier in the day, so
we'll be doing the SmackDown.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
I gotta get up. I gotta order my iPhone sixteen.
Busy Day Friday.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
I think Dorothy has a reunion for her school which
boys are not invited to girls only school. Always interesting
when you're four years old and we still have like, well,
this is the Girls School over here. Okay, Yeah, people
were Mary with kiins Blake here at five and two
at home, oh and.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
Six on the road. I believe that's for Calgary, so yeah,
doing well with that.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Yeah, but this Toronto BC game should be exciting and
then we'll see out of one like you, like we said,
coming in here, a big head of steam. And I
don't know, I just I was very and I know
it's just one game and you can't take too much.
But like I just thought Outiwall, which was great. I
thought it was exciting, and it just really feels like
they have a lot of momentum there.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
Jason, I appreciate it. Oh yes. And then the CTV thing, Yeah,
it looks cool.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Highlights, look like they have a lot more camera angles
and things, so it looked like there was a lot
more technology involved in that.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
I assume that was part of the CTV thing.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Yeah, I'm not too sure about that.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
I just kind of assumed that they just ported the
TSN broadcast to that. I think because they're owned by
the same parent company. So but I think it's just
great that they're on a bigger network. I think CTV
is the most watched networking Canada on average, So I
think that's great for the CFL, just to get on
a bigger stage. And I believe the Great Cup is

(59:34):
going to be on there as well as some playoff
games this year.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
We'll be exciting, Jason. I appreciate it. We'll figure out
next week. But like I said, like to subscribe, we'll
see everybody, you know, full steam ahead.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
Here.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
I was about ready to, you.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Know, throw my VC Lions hat in the garbage again,
and then maybe we don't have to do that anymore.
So we'll see Jason. I appreciate it. We'll see everyone
next time vis