August 2, 2025 • 33 mins
Atlanta author Clint Sabom talks about his debut release “Panic Magic” about a tormented magician living in current times remaining deeply traumatized from childhood sexual abuse but with power to levitate at large venues asking audiences to check for any strings attached and goes into various visions with life-threating magical battles while traveling to other dimensions and more! Clint began his career writing short stories at 7, educated at Vassar College & Georgia State University graduated Summa Cum Laude with a B.A. in Religious Studies & Creative Writing, received a Gilman scholarship to study literature in Budapest in ’03 with works published in various publications and works as an Executive Spiritual Coach for Franz Bardon practitioners in Atlanta! Check out the amazing Clint Sabom and his debut release on all major platforms and www.clintsabom.com today! #podmatch #clintsabom #author #executivespiritualcoach #panicmagic #magician #sexualabuse #childtrauma #levitations #vassarcollege #atlanta #georgiastateuniversity #gilmanscholarship #budapest #franzbardonpractioners #spreaker #iheartradio #spotify #applemusic #youtube #anchorfm #bitchute #rumble #mikewagner #themikewagnershow #mikewagnerclintsabom #themikewagnershowclintsabom
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He graduated Summer cun laud with a Bachelorism Religious Studies
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and Creative Writing. He received at Gilman Scholarship to study
Literature and Budapest and O three. With works published in
a number of publications, he has a new book about
a torment magician living in current times, remaining deeply traumatized
from childhood sexual abuse, but with the power to levitate.
We find more about that in the book Magic Live,
(02:01):
Ladies and Gentlemen, plus News and Beautiful Down to Atlanta.
The amazing author educated from Vassar College and george State University.
The book is called Penant Magic, The Multi Town. Clint Saba, Clint,
good morning, good afternoon, good evening. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Today, Good evening, good evening. It's a pleasure to be here.
I'm grateful for being on here to.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
What's great too, well, it's great to have you on board. Clint.
You're an author. You're educated at Fasster College and Georgia
State University. You live in Atlanta. You graduate a similar
cum live where the bachelor's and Religious Studies and creative writing.
You received the Gillman Scholarship to study literature and Budapest
and three with your works got published in various publications.
You also have a new book about a tormented magician
(02:45):
living at current times. Remain deeply traumatized in childhood sexual abuse.
But you also have the power to levitate at large
venues and asking audience members to prove levitation and goes
into various visions and also battles and also traveling through
other dimensions and more. Of the book is called Panic Magic.
(03:05):
Before getting Ali Clinton tell us I first got started
how the book for Scott star, No, no you. How'd you
first get start? Way back machines showing way back, way
back machine.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Well, I think I first got started in my writing
journey writing poems in high school and well, no, let's
go back further than that. Just early a seven and
eight years old, I was writing short stories and I
(03:39):
had elementary school teachers telling me that I should become
a writer. So I've been encouraged with it all of
my life, but once it kind of hit my adult
life in my twenties, I felt poetry coming on a
lot and hadn't quite found my fiction voice. And obviously
(04:06):
poetry doesn't really sell unless you're a creative writing professor
of poetry somewhere. So it's been only recently that I've
found my fiction voice, and that's with Panic Magic. And
it took me a while to find that voice and
to be able to come up with fiction and urban
(04:30):
fantasy or magical realism, whichever of those two you want
to put this book in. You know, it seems like
a good genre for me, you know, very spiritual, always
have been not confined to any one particular tradition, but
(04:52):
generally I consider myself a mystic and into all different
things forms of spirituality, and so incorporating that into a
fictional novel was really fun and pat Panic Magic basically
(05:14):
just flowed out of me very quickly. It was last summer,
basically in the summer of twenty twenty four, and the
book really flowed out of me very very well. One
of the inspirations I drew on was the founder of surrealism,
(05:39):
Andre Brettone, and reading some of his books was an
inspiration for some of the stream of consciousness I get
into Panic Magic. That being said, Panic Magic is a
linear story and it includes relation, chips, character building, you know,
(06:06):
all sorts of things that you just mentioned, and so,
but it seemed like what I was called to do,
and luckily I had enough free time last summer to
write it. So and I was pleased to get it
published by a publishing company. I didn't have to self publish.
(06:30):
Star Ward Publishing published it. So that's been very good
and certainly a boost and will certainly help me get
publishing companies and or agents in for my next book,
for example. So I hope that gives you some sort
(06:53):
of an overview that you were asking.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
And I think you got some great stuff. We'll talk
more about paying maas your vote. Besides, so y'all be
at seven and you're told by teachers you're writing a
fantastic What was that one other precise moment that simply
influenced you into what you're doing the rest of your career,
And no, where's a light Bulbllmus says, this is it.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
You know, I'm not really sure it came on me
just kind of all of a sudden. I'm very influenced.
I know that I'm very influenced by the check her
medicist Franz Barden, who came up. He was kind of
(07:35):
an esoteric Christian and he came up with a system
of magic in a book called Initiation into her Medics.
And he has other books too, but the series seems
to start in Initiation into her Medics. And I also
have a coaching business coaching people through that book because
(07:59):
his books have taken off in recent years, especially with
you know, YouTube and podcasts going forward. So I was
very influenced by that and also by my own imagination,
and also by a lot of books I've read, so
(08:24):
you know, it was a combination of different things. But
the short answer is, I'm not really sure. I just
got Lucky.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Well, I'm sure, I'm sure Luck doesn't play to it.
It's like you know something special that I have happened to.
But you talked about reading a number of books. What
are some of your favorite books growing up?
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Well, I really liked the author Hermann hess and his
books sid Artha. That was a really good book that
got me into Eastern mysticism. And I like his classical
work that he won. I think he won the Pulitzer
(09:06):
or the Nobel Prize for the Glass Bead Game. So
he was very much an influence. Clive Barker, the horror
fantasy writer who you know has elements of horror and
elements of fantasy, was very helpful in some of my
(09:32):
fiction writing and getting the kind of flow down, kind
of finding my voice. So that has also been helpful.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
And you mentioned Herman has A Zero wrote Moby Dick,
and Ryan got the or writing similar book.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
The name is Sound Familiar, Moby Dick Itself by Herman Melville.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
That was it. I got that up. I'm sorry, I
got that crossed up.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Oh okay, Well, I was just going to comment on
Moby Dick and I was going to say I didn't
like that book very much.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Oh, no problem, I just had to clarify. That's also
my apologies on that one. And here are some other
favorite authors and books growing up.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Well, you know, as a young child, I really liked
the Chronicles of Narnia. Yes, was he's amazing, Yes, yes,
And I really liked Mattalin le Ingles three series that
began with a Wrinkle in Time. So those were influences
(10:43):
and you know, childhood. But you know, I've read so
many books since then. I think I read Neil Gaiman,
Salmon to Rush, the different authors that deal with magic
and fantasy stuff that have helped me. And but I
(11:10):
mean in my twenties, I was writing mainly poetry and
reading a lot of poetry books. And I really like
the poet Walt Whitman and Willavesip Brass. I think that's
just a classic. I really like the visionary aspect of
the poet William Blake. And you know, it's it's a lot.
(11:35):
I've read so many books, I lose track of them.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
No, I know, Jamin or I have a library as well,
but you got your own, will I'm putting the libraries
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Panic Magic here and the Mic Winder Show and Clint.
Before you get to more of your book Panic Manage It,
you receive at Gillman Scholarship to stay larger in Budapest
in three and tell us about injuring, how you got
the scholarship and your adventures in Budapest.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Well, I, you know, I had to take off from
Vassar College because it got too expensive, and I moved
to Atlanta, and I decided to stay in Atlanta, uh
and just attend the local university, Georgia State University. And
(14:52):
I always wanted to make the promise to myself to
study abroad. So study abroad opportunities came up through the
Study Abroad office at Georgia State. And there was a
Guildman scholarship that was available, and I applied and I
(15:14):
got it along nice find other people. So the time
I spent in Budapeste was some of the best days
of my life. Really, I really enjoyed being there. It's
a beautiful, immacculate city.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
He also had a number of our works in various
publications and more about that.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Well, I've just sent in and gotten stuff published. I
probably have more publishing credits than I even put in
my bio, you know, with different literary journals. But you know,
most of my publications are Witchery, and so you know,
(16:04):
I had those to go on and yeah, so you know,
publishing can be very difficult, and you know, sometimes it's
hard to break through. So I'm grateful to score what
I have scored.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
And plus you also, you know, got your own mark
called Panic Magic, and of course, as we mentioned, it's
about a torment magician living current times and drama, deeply
traumatized sexual abuse and everything like that. And I think
you've covered some of the book as well too that
you know, I forgot to ask you a question, how'd
(16:43):
you first get involved with magic? And basically the just
the appeal of you know, magicians and everything else.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
I think it's all kind of happened since I was
about twenty one in nineteen ninety seven, and I had
a strong spiritual awakening, so I started looking into different
forms of spirituality back then, so it's kind of been
(17:14):
ongoing throughout my adult life. I lived in a silent
monastery for six months.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Oh wow.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
And you know, I seriously considered becoming a monk, and
you know, there's some times I regret that decision. Not
becoming a monk. It was very much a good way
of life. It had a certain solitude and silence about
it that I really liked. But at the same time,
(17:46):
being in the world hasn't worked out so bad. So
I've been pursuing my spiritual journey for a long time,
and I've always always been open to different traditions, and
you know, sometimes I practiced more with meditation exercises, you know,
(18:11):
but with Panic Magic, I kind of just use the
knowledge I already had in some of the life experiences
that I've already had in some of the life experiences
with my coaching clients to come up with basically an
(18:32):
urban fantasy book.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
That's really interesting and how you first get involved with
the life coaching.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
With the literature no life coaching, Oh oh okay, Well,
you know I always thought that, you know, I liked
the idea of working for myself, and you know, I
had a YouTube channel, and believe it or not, the
(19:06):
enter the videos I did on magic got a lot
more views and hits than other things done, and so
I decided to go with that. And you know, just
like a therapist in private practice, it can either be
(19:31):
feast or famine. So yeah, I help clients with spiritual issues.
I also help them sometimes with mental health issues. It's
really up to the individual client what they want to
work on. And I do have a website Clintsaybomb dot com,
(19:51):
clintsabomb dot com and you can find out everything you
can get away to the book, also from my online classes.
Also willing to contact me and that's my website, just
my name C O I N T S A B
(20:11):
O mun dot com.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
And of course more in the book of Panic Matages
as well too, that that the magician in there, Troy Abraham,
is constantly asking for you know, checking on levitations and
everything like that. Most magicians that I've watched on TV
seem to never ask about that. So what makes the
difference that this guy in there, Troy is asking for
(20:36):
people to make sure that he's able to approve lavitations. Well,
most of some people say, hey, this.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Is what we do love table. Oh, I think there's
a huge difference. The book Panic Magic deals with a
character that actually has supernatural abilities. I think the so
called all magicians that stage those kinds of tricks and
(21:06):
stage shows or videos are more like just illusionists. So
I don't think it's real, necessarily magical powers involving It's
more slide of hand and tricks. And I know it
(21:26):
can get really popular with the general public, but you know,
I certainly do not believe that you know, any of
them are practicing true magic. I think a lot of
it is just tricks. So yeah, there's a huge difference
(21:49):
between magic. Sometimes it's even spelled with a c K
at the end.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Right, I am familiar with that, and I think that
kind of goes into a different realm as well. We'll
probably discuss that and another topic and such. But of
course you know, having like you know, mysterious monologues between
levitations and realistic visions, and of course some going to
have be life threatening like intense ballots as well, magicians
(22:15):
against other magicians, spirit guides and everything else. And of
course you got your enemies that be coming out, so
it's really no magic act whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
You're right, right, and it's a thriller. It kind of
keeps you up. It moves on, I must say. And
the feedback I've gotten from it is so far is excellent.
People love it.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
And plus you also has got the intellis as well too,
gathering the intelligence and also most notably going through time
portals as well, and you know, tell us more about
that as well too. That's fascinating. The testing, no, no, no,
the times you know, so it's like you talked about
(23:03):
in the book as well, you know, going through traveling
to other dimensions. We call it time portals, and you know,
maybe some of the dimensions that he's encountered.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Oh so it's really what I would consider what most
people often talk about in terms of astral travel and
astral projection. So it's going into other dimensions that are there,
(23:34):
often into a higher level of consciousness. And one dimension
he goes into is basically based on the Greek underworld.
Oh wow, it's a benevolent thing. It's not a dark
(23:54):
and malicious underworld, but it's an underworld that helps the
main character, Troy, regain a sense of spiritual power that
he's lost in some of the magical battles that really
(24:14):
knock them down. In some of the magical battles really
knock them down at times, and he's worried about getting
heart problems and he's going to the er because he's
losing the magical battles.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
M would that be considered like a riven Dell type
of setting, like in Lord of the Rings the J. R. R.
Tolkien series, or would be like considered like like in Atlantis.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
That's a good question because I haven't read either of those.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Okay, because I thought Revendell that you know, like like
in JR. Tolkien, Lord of the Rings and all that,
but you know, you know, that's probably for another time
as well too. And and I guess the next question
is what do you want people to get from the book?
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (25:05):
I want them to well, certainly first and foremost to
be entertained and inspired and also you know, informative and
helpful in an education way. So it's kind of excitement,
(25:31):
inspiration and education. And so I tried to kind of
combine all of those three elements, so not only do
they get an engaging story, there's things to learn from
the story as well.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Okay, And what's get work? When you find your book
and all your works at Clinton Sure.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
My book is available on Amazon. That's probably the easiest
way to find it. You can just type in Panic
Magic PA n ic Magic, M A G I C
and it should come up first. If it doesn't, you
can type in Panic Magic Clint Save Bomb and you
(26:17):
can also just find links to it on my website
at clintsabomb dot com.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
We'll slowly check that out. And what's come out for
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more things, Clinton, what else can you expect me twenty
twenty five and beyond.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Well, you know, it's like panic manager has set me
off an inspiration. So I'm working on a new book
right now and that has been very engaging. It would
also go into the category of urban fantasy, I believe.
(30:18):
And so I'm working on a new book right now.
I don't think it's going to be out in twenty
twenty five, but you know, maybe in twenty twenty six
it will. And in the meantime, I'm doing my spiritual coaching.
And you can find my YouTube page. I have a
(30:40):
YouTube page with about two point two case subscribers. Nice yeah,
and it's just under my name Clint Sabam, so you
can easily find me on YouTube and watch some of
my videos about magic and hope that helps you, even
(31:02):
if you don't consider yourself interested into magic. I would
kind of consider my videos self help for all spiritual practitioners,
regardless of what they subscribed to or not.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Okay, well, certainly check Thatt as well too. And who
do you consider biggest influence in career?
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Oh, that's a good question, I would say, you mean well,
I would say Walt Whitman's Leaves of Grass really got
to me, and it got to me at a young
age and was very inspiring. Even though it's poetry and
(31:50):
we're talking about a fiction book. Walt Whitman's Leaves of
Grass really very much got me, and that was a
very early inspiration.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Okay. And what's the best advice you can give it
a by this point.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
Advice for you?
Speaker 3 (32:10):
What's the best advice you can give it any by
this point? Anything? In general?
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Oh? My best advice is to keep going and take
things one day at a time. And if you're a
writer and love to write, I would say the biggest
suggestion I have is to just write and give yourself
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to write imperfectly. I don't think you can write well
until you give yourself permission to write imperfectly. And remember,
if it's your first draft of anything, just get it
all down. You can always edit and rearrange later.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Okay, I think that's great advice as well too. We're
here at the amount of Town. Clint save Bob my
path measure on the mic Waiters show. Clint a very
big thank you time you have, Ben Apps fantastic, learned
a lot looking Fordhamn soon keeps it up today, keep
in touch with love, heavy back and what's your website?
How do people contact you? Where can people purchase or
check out your works?
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Salmo Salam's good, Clint save on dot com and I'm
so happy to be here with your mind.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
It's great to have you on board too. Clint, A
very big thank you, Dying you have been as amazing
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Ladies and Gentlemen, plus News and Beautiful Down to Atlanta.
The amazing author educated from Vassar College and george State University.
The book is called Penant Magic, The Multi Town. Clint Saba, Clint,
good morning, good afternoon, good evening. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Today, Good evening, good evening. It's a pleasure to be here.
I'm grateful for being on here to.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
What's great too, well, it's great to have you on board. Clint.
You're an author. You're educated at Fasster College and Georgia
State University. You live in Atlanta. You graduate a similar
cum live where the bachelor's and Religious Studies and creative writing.
You received the Gillman Scholarship to study literature and Budapest
and three with your works got published in various publications.
You also have a new book about a tormented magician
(02:45):
living at current times. Remain deeply traumatized in childhood sexual abuse.
But you also have the power to levitate at large
venues and asking audience members to prove levitation and goes
into various visions and also battles and also traveling through
other dimensions and more. Of the book is called Panic Magic.
(03:05):
Before getting Ali Clinton tell us I first got started
how the book for Scott star, No, no you. How'd you
first get start? Way back machines showing way back, way
back machine.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Well, I think I first got started in my writing
journey writing poems in high school and well, no, let's
go back further than that. Just early a seven and
eight years old, I was writing short stories and I
(03:39):
had elementary school teachers telling me that I should become
a writer. So I've been encouraged with it all of
my life, but once it kind of hit my adult
life in my twenties, I felt poetry coming on a
lot and hadn't quite found my fiction voice. And obviously
(04:06):
poetry doesn't really sell unless you're a creative writing professor
of poetry somewhere. So it's been only recently that I've
found my fiction voice, and that's with Panic Magic. And
it took me a while to find that voice and
to be able to come up with fiction and urban
(04:30):
fantasy or magical realism, whichever of those two you want
to put this book in. You know, it seems like
a good genre for me, you know, very spiritual, always
have been not confined to any one particular tradition, but
(04:52):
generally I consider myself a mystic and into all different
things forms of spirituality, and so incorporating that into a
fictional novel was really fun and pat Panic Magic basically
(05:14):
just flowed out of me very quickly. It was last summer,
basically in the summer of twenty twenty four, and the
book really flowed out of me very very well. One
of the inspirations I drew on was the founder of surrealism,
(05:39):
Andre Brettone, and reading some of his books was an
inspiration for some of the stream of consciousness I get
into Panic Magic. That being said, Panic Magic is a
linear story and it includes relation, chips, character building, you know,
(06:06):
all sorts of things that you just mentioned, and so,
but it seemed like what I was called to do,
and luckily I had enough free time last summer to
write it. So and I was pleased to get it
published by a publishing company. I didn't have to self publish.
(06:30):
Star Ward Publishing published it. So that's been very good
and certainly a boost and will certainly help me get
publishing companies and or agents in for my next book,
for example. So I hope that gives you some sort
(06:53):
of an overview that you were asking.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
And I think you got some great stuff. We'll talk
more about paying maas your vote. Besides, so y'all be
at seven and you're told by teachers you're writing a
fantastic What was that one other precise moment that simply
influenced you into what you're doing the rest of your career,
And no, where's a light Bulbllmus says, this is it.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
You know, I'm not really sure it came on me
just kind of all of a sudden. I'm very influenced.
I know that I'm very influenced by the check her
medicist Franz Barden, who came up. He was kind of
(07:35):
an esoteric Christian and he came up with a system
of magic in a book called Initiation into her Medics.
And he has other books too, but the series seems
to start in Initiation into her Medics. And I also
have a coaching business coaching people through that book because
(07:59):
his books have taken off in recent years, especially with
you know, YouTube and podcasts going forward. So I was
very influenced by that and also by my own imagination,
and also by a lot of books I've read, so
(08:24):
you know, it was a combination of different things. But
the short answer is, I'm not really sure. I just
got Lucky.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Well, I'm sure, I'm sure Luck doesn't play to it.
It's like you know something special that I have happened to.
But you talked about reading a number of books. What
are some of your favorite books growing up?
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Well, I really liked the author Hermann hess and his
books sid Artha. That was a really good book that
got me into Eastern mysticism. And I like his classical
work that he won. I think he won the Pulitzer
(09:06):
or the Nobel Prize for the Glass Bead Game. So
he was very much an influence. Clive Barker, the horror
fantasy writer who you know has elements of horror and
elements of fantasy, was very helpful in some of my
(09:32):
fiction writing and getting the kind of flow down, kind
of finding my voice. So that has also been helpful.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
And you mentioned Herman has A Zero wrote Moby Dick,
and Ryan got the or writing similar book.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
The name is Sound Familiar, Moby Dick Itself by Herman Melville.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
That was it. I got that up. I'm sorry, I
got that crossed up.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Oh okay, Well, I was just going to comment on
Moby Dick and I was going to say I didn't
like that book very much.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Oh, no problem, I just had to clarify. That's also
my apologies on that one. And here are some other
favorite authors and books growing up.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Well, you know, as a young child, I really liked
the Chronicles of Narnia. Yes, was he's amazing, Yes, yes,
And I really liked Mattalin le Ingles three series that
began with a Wrinkle in Time. So those were influences
(10:43):
and you know, childhood. But you know, I've read so
many books since then. I think I read Neil Gaiman,
Salmon to Rush, the different authors that deal with magic
and fantasy stuff that have helped me. And but I
(11:10):
mean in my twenties, I was writing mainly poetry and
reading a lot of poetry books. And I really like
the poet Walt Whitman and Willavesip Brass. I think that's
just a classic. I really like the visionary aspect of
the poet William Blake. And you know, it's it's a lot.
(11:35):
I've read so many books, I lose track of them.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
No, I know, Jamin or I have a library as well,
but you got your own, will I'm putting the libraries
one day with panic manager. We'll get it back with them.
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Before you get to more of your book Panic Manage It,
you receive at Gillman Scholarship to stay larger in Budapest
in three and tell us about injuring, how you got
the scholarship and your adventures in Budapest.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Well, I, you know, I had to take off from
Vassar College because it got too expensive, and I moved
to Atlanta, and I decided to stay in Atlanta, uh
and just attend the local university, Georgia State University. And
(14:52):
I always wanted to make the promise to myself to
study abroad. So study abroad opportunities came up through the
Study Abroad office at Georgia State. And there was a
Guildman scholarship that was available, and I applied and I
(15:14):
got it along nice find other people. So the time
I spent in Budapeste was some of the best days
of my life. Really, I really enjoyed being there. It's
a beautiful, immacculate city.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
He also had a number of our works in various
publications and more about that.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Well, I've just sent in and gotten stuff published. I
probably have more publishing credits than I even put in
my bio, you know, with different literary journals. But you know,
most of my publications are Witchery, and so you know,
(16:04):
I had those to go on and yeah, so you know,
publishing can be very difficult, and you know, sometimes it's
hard to break through. So I'm grateful to score what
I have scored.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
And plus you also, you know, got your own mark
called Panic Magic, and of course, as we mentioned, it's
about a torment magician living current times and drama, deeply
traumatized sexual abuse and everything like that. And I think
you've covered some of the book as well too that
you know, I forgot to ask you a question, how'd
(16:43):
you first get involved with magic? And basically the just
the appeal of you know, magicians and everything else.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
I think it's all kind of happened since I was
about twenty one in nineteen ninety seven, and I had
a strong spiritual awakening, so I started looking into different
forms of spirituality back then, so it's kind of been
(17:14):
ongoing throughout my adult life. I lived in a silent
monastery for six months.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Oh wow.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
And you know, I seriously considered becoming a monk, and
you know, there's some times I regret that decision. Not
becoming a monk. It was very much a good way
of life. It had a certain solitude and silence about
it that I really liked. But at the same time,
(17:46):
being in the world hasn't worked out so bad. So
I've been pursuing my spiritual journey for a long time,
and I've always always been open to different traditions, and
you know, sometimes I practiced more with meditation exercises, you know,
(18:11):
but with Panic Magic, I kind of just use the
knowledge I already had in some of the life experiences
that I've already had in some of the life experiences
with my coaching clients to come up with basically an
(18:32):
urban fantasy book.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
That's really interesting and how you first get involved with
the life coaching.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
With the literature no life coaching, Oh oh okay, Well,
you know I always thought that, you know, I liked
the idea of working for myself, and you know, I
had a YouTube channel, and believe it or not, the
(19:06):
enter the videos I did on magic got a lot
more views and hits than other things done, and so
I decided to go with that. And you know, just
like a therapist in private practice, it can either be
(19:31):
feast or famine. So yeah, I help clients with spiritual issues.
I also help them sometimes with mental health issues. It's
really up to the individual client what they want to
work on. And I do have a website Clintsaybomb dot com,
(19:51):
clintsabomb dot com and you can find out everything you
can get away to the book, also from my online classes.
Also willing to contact me and that's my website, just
my name C O I N T S A B
(20:11):
O mun dot com.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
And of course more in the book of Panic Matages
as well too, that that the magician in there, Troy Abraham,
is constantly asking for you know, checking on levitations and
everything like that. Most magicians that I've watched on TV
seem to never ask about that. So what makes the
difference that this guy in there, Troy is asking for
(20:36):
people to make sure that he's able to approve lavitations. Well,
most of some people say, hey, this.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Is what we do love table. Oh, I think there's
a huge difference. The book Panic Magic deals with a
character that actually has supernatural abilities. I think the so
called all magicians that stage those kinds of tricks and
(21:06):
stage shows or videos are more like just illusionists. So
I don't think it's real, necessarily magical powers involving It's
more slide of hand and tricks. And I know it
(21:26):
can get really popular with the general public, but you know,
I certainly do not believe that you know, any of
them are practicing true magic. I think a lot of
it is just tricks. So yeah, there's a huge difference
(21:49):
between magic. Sometimes it's even spelled with a c K
at the end.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Right, I am familiar with that, and I think that
kind of goes into a different realm as well. We'll
probably discuss that and another topic and such. But of
course you know, having like you know, mysterious monologues between
levitations and realistic visions, and of course some going to
have be life threatening like intense ballots as well, magicians
(22:15):
against other magicians, spirit guides and everything else. And of
course you got your enemies that be coming out, so
it's really no magic act whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
You're right, right, and it's a thriller. It kind of
keeps you up. It moves on, I must say. And
the feedback I've gotten from it is so far is excellent.
People love it.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
And plus you also has got the intellis as well too,
gathering the intelligence and also most notably going through time
portals as well, and you know, tell us more about
that as well too. That's fascinating. The testing, no, no, no,
the times you know, so it's like you talked about
(23:03):
in the book as well, you know, going through traveling
to other dimensions. We call it time portals, and you know,
maybe some of the dimensions that he's encountered.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Oh so it's really what I would consider what most
people often talk about in terms of astral travel and
astral projection. So it's going into other dimensions that are there,
(23:34):
often into a higher level of consciousness. And one dimension
he goes into is basically based on the Greek underworld.
Oh wow, it's a benevolent thing. It's not a dark
(23:54):
and malicious underworld, but it's an underworld that helps the
main character, Troy, regain a sense of spiritual power that
he's lost in some of the magical battles that really
(24:14):
knock them down. In some of the magical battles really
knock them down at times, and he's worried about getting
heart problems and he's going to the er because he's
losing the magical battles.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
M would that be considered like a riven Dell type
of setting, like in Lord of the Rings the J. R. R.
Tolkien series, or would be like considered like like in Atlantis.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
That's a good question because I haven't read either of those.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Okay, because I thought Revendell that you know, like like
in JR. Tolkien, Lord of the Rings and all that,
but you know, you know, that's probably for another time
as well too. And and I guess the next question
is what do you want people to get from the book?
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (25:05):
I want them to well, certainly first and foremost to
be entertained and inspired and also you know, informative and
helpful in an education way. So it's kind of excitement,
(25:31):
inspiration and education. And so I tried to kind of
combine all of those three elements, so not only do
they get an engaging story, there's things to learn from
the story as well.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Okay, And what's get work? When you find your book
and all your works at Clinton Sure.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
My book is available on Amazon. That's probably the easiest
way to find it. You can just type in Panic
Magic PA n ic Magic, M A G I C
and it should come up first. If it doesn't, you
can type in Panic Magic Clint Save Bomb and you
(26:17):
can also just find links to it on my website
at clintsabomb dot com.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
We'll slowly check that out. And what's come out for
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more things, Clinton, what else can you expect me twenty
twenty five and beyond.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Well, you know, it's like panic manager has set me
off an inspiration. So I'm working on a new book
right now and that has been very engaging. It would
also go into the category of urban fantasy, I believe.
(30:18):
And so I'm working on a new book right now.
I don't think it's going to be out in twenty
twenty five, but you know, maybe in twenty twenty six
it will. And in the meantime, I'm doing my spiritual coaching.
And you can find my YouTube page. I have a
(30:40):
YouTube page with about two point two case subscribers. Nice yeah,
and it's just under my name Clint Sabam, so you
can easily find me on YouTube and watch some of
my videos about magic and hope that helps you, even
(31:02):
if you don't consider yourself interested into magic. I would
kind of consider my videos self help for all spiritual practitioners,
regardless of what they subscribed to or not.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Okay, well, certainly check Thatt as well too. And who
do you consider biggest influence in career?
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Oh, that's a good question, I would say, you mean well,
I would say Walt Whitman's Leaves of Grass really got
to me, and it got to me at a young
age and was very inspiring. Even though it's poetry and
(31:50):
we're talking about a fiction book. Walt Whitman's Leaves of
Grass really very much got me, and that was a
very early inspiration.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Okay. And what's the best advice you can give it
a by this point.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
Advice for you?
Speaker 3 (32:10):
What's the best advice you can give it any by
this point? Anything? In general?
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Oh? My best advice is to keep going and take
things one day at a time. And if you're a
writer and love to write, I would say the biggest
suggestion I have is to just write and give yourself
(32:38):
to write imperfectly. I don't think you can write well
until you give yourself permission to write imperfectly. And remember,
if it's your first draft of anything, just get it
all down. You can always edit and rearrange later.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Okay, I think that's great advice as well too. We're
here at the amount of Town. Clint save Bob my
path measure on the mic Waiters show. Clint a very
big thank you time you have, Ben Apps fantastic, learned
a lot looking Fordhamn soon keeps it up today, keep
in touch with love, heavy back and what's your website?
How do people contact you? Where can people purchase or
check out your works?
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Salmo Salam's good, Clint save on dot com and I'm
so happy to be here with your mind.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
It's great to have you on board too. Clint, A
very big thank you, Dying you have been as amazing
looking Fordhamn soon keeps up today, Keep in touch, loveav
you back. We wish I'll best in Clint. You definitely
have a great feature ahead.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
Sam's good, many blessings,
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