December 10, 2025 • 50 mins
Retired US Navy officer-turned-novelist earning multiple awards Christopher Loric talks about his latest release “SESG Explorer” offering a compelling look at the future through the lens of history inspired by real-life military, scientific and diplomatic figures! Christopher grew up in Norman, OK, spent 28+ years in the military joining the US Navy in ’93 and served on three combat command staffs plus earned his MBA in’90 and Masters in National Security & Strategic Studies in ’04! Find out more about Christopher and his latest release at www.christopherloric.com and www.linktr.ee/themikewagnershow ! #christopherloric #author #retiredusnavyofficer #novelist #sesgexplorer #normanoklahoma #usnavy #combatcommand #spreaker #spotify #iheartradio #applemusic #bitchute #rumble #youtube #mikewagner #themikewagnershow #mikewagnerchristopherloric #themikewagnershowchristopherloric
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Who's a retired US Navy officer. Grew up in normal, Oklahoma.
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He turned a novelist and spent twenty eight years in military.
He's earned multiple awards. He also earned his NBA nineteen
ninety a Masters in National Security and Strategies and Studies
in four joined the US Navy in ninety three, served
as three combat staffs as well. He's got a new
book offering complay a look of future through lens of history,
(01:55):
inspired by real life military, scientific, and diplomat figures. The
book is called SESG Explorer, which is part of the
brand Against Saga, Live Lation and Gentlemen Plus studios. Some
are in beautiful Knoxville, Tennessee, and the outskirts of it.
The major retired US Navy officer turned novelists and the
book is called SESG Explored Multi Talent Chrisopher Lurk, Chris Urricom, Marty,
(02:18):
good afternoon, get any thanks for joining us today.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well, thank you. I'm glad to be here much going
to have you on Bard. Christopher. So, you're retired US
Navy officer turned novelists. You earned a number of awards.
You group in Norman and Oklahoma. You spent twenty eight
years in military. You earned your MBA in nineteen ninety
your Masters in National Security and Strategy Studies in O form.
You also joined the US Navy in ninety three serve
(02:42):
in three combat command staff. So you have a new
book which offers a compelling look at the future through
a lens of history inspired by real life military, scientific,
and diplomatic figures, and it's basically rooted in a classic
problem solving spirit of nineteen fifty sci fi without the
use of technology.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
The use of the mind. Is called SSG Explorer, part
of the Branking series. Workin on a Christopher tell Us
How I first got started?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Well, I started trying to write, and I say tried
to write back in my college days, but then my
studies took over. So then I joined the military and
real life there took over. But in two thousand and six,
when I was deployed and Iraq, the novel I wanted
to write was this novel, I CESG Explorer. It was
(03:33):
heavy Navy marine corpse centric, because that's why I knew
at that time. But when I came back from Iraq again,
my other duties with first Marine Division and then later
in Korea US Forces, Korea just consumed me. So I
(03:53):
finished it in twenty one and went through the publishing cycle.
In twenty two, I updated with the NewSpace Force. It's
a joint force that is going out into deep space
to meet the Kmoricans. So that's in a nutshell how
(04:13):
it got started. But characters come to mind. It's almost
like they walk in and say, tell my story.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
That's really unique, you know, characters walk up you and say,
come on, tell my story please.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I don't know how tell mine, Tell mine please, And
that's in essence. The main character, Admiral Brandigan, he has
a compilation of partially myself but admirals that I've worked
with as well as senior officers and kind of the
(04:52):
way we think in operational setting. I give throughout the
book a little bit about his background, you know, as
an officer growing up in the military, beings signed to
the un developing diplomatic skills along with this military expertise.
(05:12):
But I surround him with pretty much one chief scientists
who wrangles all the other scientists that are in the fleet.
He has a diplomat and then his officers, which of
course answered through his deputy commander to him. It's really
based off of command structure, our thought process of encountering
(05:38):
different situations, tried not to resort to violence, even though
they find themselves in plenty of danger where violence is
a part of it. But like you said, the only
real science fiction technology is the hyperspace drive and the
(06:01):
Ion sublight drive. I don't go into that. This is
more of a space opera and military operations with a
heavy dose of diplomacy with a smaller dose of science
behind it. It's technology we could actually produce today on
the planet ins set. Like I said, the hyperspace drive,
(06:23):
and I don't think DARPA's worked out a shield technology,
but I do have shields in there for the ships.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Okay, yeah, it sounds like you've got some technology in
there as well too, which could be used as well.
And what was that one exact, precise moment that simply
influence you into what you do in the rest of
your career, especially writing.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Oh back in my college days, I took a it
was actually in nineteen eighty three, my first college courses.
We took a movie type college course and we focused
in on Alfred Hitchcock and his movies, and we had
to write various things for the show or the course.
(07:12):
I wrote a short story that I really enjoyed, did
a good job on the instructor, really enjoyed it, and
I was going to really try and develop it when
I ran across a novel in one of our local
drug stores that was in essence my short story, but
already full length novel I'm published. So I turned towards
(07:37):
a totally different novel, and I was doing the research
on it, but I really put aside trying to write
short stories or poems, because again, my studies really needed
my attention more than my creative side. And then I
got into the military, and that was a totally different world.
(08:00):
But I found enough time being deployed to Iraq for
a year to crank out SESG Explorer. And then when
I retired, I was forced to stay at home because
my wife was bailing breast cancer at the time. Okay,
(08:22):
so you know with her treatment, having to take care
of her, and we happened to have two new puppies
at the same time. Nice congratulations, thinks. So it just
became when she's asleep, the puppies are either playing or down.
What do I do? So I went back to the
(08:43):
book and finished it. Oh my gosh, go ahead, I'm sorry.
Oh And after again SESG published, I failed to get
the second book, Minerva now published, which continues the saga.
(09:04):
Se s G Explorer was the first book in the saga.
Now I have Minerva out there. Uh, that's spelling, and
well I was gonna say, what's with you? Instead of
the E. I was just curious. Uh, it's just the way.
There was really no thought in it. Just Minerva was
(09:26):
the name I wanted, and when I typed it out,
it came out with the U. Oh, well, I'm looking
back at the great mythology and bands and all that.
Everything is really spelled with the k E. I'm like, well, cool,
that's the uniqueness of it. It's not like everything else,
(09:48):
but that's the spelling that the characters wanted me to
use on this book.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
And that is rather interesting thinking maybe some of the
characters who are screaming, come on, tell me this story
and everything and we'll get to that.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Who's your other favorite authors writers and favorite books? Growing
Chris Well the latest one, and I haven't really seen
much of his work lately, as Stephen R. Donaldson, and
he did the Thomas Covenant trilogies. There's three of those out.
(10:28):
I've read two of the three trilogies, and he did
The Chaos. I think it's The Chaos, and first I'd
have to look at my shelf back there, which he
went from a fantasy world to a sci fi world,
(10:49):
and the way he worked in there he twisted He
took from Norse mythos and kind of twisted that over
into sci fi type storytelling, and it was very intriguing,
and that also kind of helped formulate some of what
(11:09):
I was doing with the saga in there. Not a
There's only one area that I call him really delve
into science so speaking, that was when he was doing
a brain mapping and wow on a person to controller
(11:29):
to do whatever. The bad guy who kind turns into
an anti hero. He was using that to control her
and whatever he wanted her to do, and yet she
was still able to escape from him. But I don't
(11:49):
go into that type with this one. That's kind of
how I'm working a sci fi romance type novel. I'm
kind of going down that pass away a little bit
with that. Since some fans want me to write a
romance novel, I'll put in a space setting. Oh there
(12:13):
you go, and I think that's a great idea.
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We're hereth major retie USNE officer turned novelist and earned
numerous warris. Christopher Lurk on the Mic Winners Show with
SUSC Explorer, part of the Brandon series along with them Miniver.
Before getting back to those books, you had won a
number of awards as well too, And I'm trying to
find a listener.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
You had so many, like.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
With Defense Meditorious of Service Medals four times, also named
Marine Corps and everything like that.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I mean you all got awards, Uh yeah, thank you. Yeah.
The Defense Marior for a Service Medals comes from my
three combatant commands, US Forces Korea, US Strategic Command, US
Africa Command, and the last one was my last assignment
(15:07):
with the NATO Headquarters for Transformation where how to explain
that not only in my plans and operations officer, I
was a requirements officer, so I had to look at
what capabilities do we want in the military and what's
the requirement that would justify that capability and the expenditure
(15:30):
of dollars. NATO has something very similar to that. So
my last duty station, I was there doing various analysis
upon the NATO countries and what they had and what
capabilities did we want as an out alliance a political
(15:52):
slash military alliance. Now, and how do you look at
the threats around that. One of the things I saw
with then NATO that I thought we really needed was
a forelooking visionary document. You know, parts of NATO ARI
(16:12):
was doing that and there were staff that were looking
out at twenty years, ten years, five years, But the
discipline I was supporting did not have that, and they
really didn't want the operational side. I ran into resistance,
My command ran to assistance with our sister headquarters. They
(16:35):
didn't want that. They just want contrail on the fight tonight.
And it's like, well, you had to be part of
what we're going to be fighting, not only tonight but
five years from now, ten years, and how are you
going to command control whatever we're able to provide you
(16:56):
to do that? So that was an interesting dynamic, especially
being the US military, and that's kind of way we
looked at the world with some European allies that never
looked at the world that way. So that's kind of
where some of the diplomacy, even with the military, you
(17:18):
have to have allnescy between military members of other nations
in order to move forward, especially as an alliance.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
And made me think about the whole thing that the
European allies have a different timetable, time set, mindset and
everything like that. You talked about, you know, you having
a five ten year plan, but then want like, you
know one year right now, everything like that. That's where
you got to somehow. But it had was that the
same system that the European allies had that like one year,
five years, ten years or what was there time frame?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Like what was there a version of it? It really
depended more on which country we're talking to or where
they were at again shape or the operational side. In Belgium,
really we're not looking at five or ten years. They
(18:13):
were looking more at, well, we could be in war
right now, so you know, I'm more worried about what
that is or what operations they were actually sporting, because
NATO is actually involved in several different operations around Europe.
So they were just looking at primarily that what's in
(18:36):
front of them right now. And it was my command
that was more of that visionary you know, what are
we going to be basing, what logistics are going to
have to be adjusted or created to support that future
fight And in a way that's kind of wide and
(18:59):
trying to us in Minerva. Admirald Brandigan gets back and
he is now met the Americans. He's been out there,
so it's like, what capabilities do we need in order
to counter what I now know is out there? And
the diplomat Michael Shea is out there to try and
(19:19):
find allies, but are they going to be able to
actually communicate and figure out how are we going to
work together? Let alone what technology or capabilities they need.
They're more basic than that now a NATO has that
era from the late nineteen forties that we have worked together,
(19:43):
so we're kind of beyond those basics. I find times
we fall back to the same basics.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
And of course, well you know other things that's lacking
in international relations today besides your typical communication barriers, language.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And the persona and everything.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
And you mentioned there were conflicts you visualize a year,
five year, ten years, you know, they want it now
and everything like that. And of course Europe has been
accustomed to Warley constantly, especially what's happening Israel and irund
so like you know, you know, it's like now now now,
bomb bomb, bomb, every single day.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
And right, and like I said, it really depends which
country you're talking about. The UK and France for centuries
have been a little bit for thinking, you know, what
do we need now? The great arms race, the battleship
race from the eighteen nineties to World War Two, and
(20:43):
that was trying to figure out, how are we going
to make the bigger, baddest battleship out there, so nobody
wants to contest with us, and that's just another form
of an arms race that can bankrupt countries.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Right, yes, And I've read that. I read down reports
as well too that you know, the US would make
all these you know, cutting edge technology, big bombers, big ships.
So then after all, I was like in about five
ten years, become obsolete. And some don't even get off
the ground, saying, you know, you're building a warehouse or
garage wherever.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
It is, like it never gets out of there, it
just sets right. And that was kind of Lucky Martin
back in the nineteen sixties looking at aircraft and what
we were looking at. They were really forward thinking about
technology and what the future could hold. And that's where
(21:41):
now we get the stealth bomber and fighters in the
F thirty five. All that really started in the nineteen
sixties based off of you know, the first jets coming
out of the nineteen fifties, the men and women that
era in my mind for thinking people, and that's kind
(22:05):
of how I'm trying to bring some of that into
the novels. And that's where Sesg Explored. The Admiral comes
along and there's already the seven ship fleet and existence,
and he does some revamping which I just give you
(22:25):
the highlights of in the book, to refamp and bring
more scientific capability to the fleet. Is originally it was
just heavy military with very little science and no diplomacy.
The Admiral's like, but the mission is a diplomatic mission.
I need a diplomat. It's a small staff, but he
(22:49):
still was a heavy military presence because those are military
ships going out in Minerva. He's trying to now build
a earth fleet in order to take on the enemies
that arose out of Sesg Explore. And I have a
couple of discussions with the scientists about technology to make
(23:13):
that fleet better, more capable, more effective in combat. And meanwhile,
got other Earth expansion going on in Minerva as well
as a diplomat try and find allies a little bit
(23:34):
more into that and kind of that okay for thinking
And in the background is the politics. Do we want
to be isolationists. Do we want to expand? And how
fast do we expand if we do? And I don't
really hit on that heavily. It's just noise in the
(23:57):
background that here's the military trend to develop capability with
this political scene behind it, and that's you know, I
find that happening in our world today, be it NATO,
the EU, ason in the Pacific Allies. Everybody has their
(24:18):
interests and they want a piece of the pie. But
they also have their interests and that's where you get
the conflicts.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
And do you think the human common sense and enginuity
still exists today, hasn't gotten better? Has a stay of
same or do you think it's gotten worse and we're
relying too much on future technology?
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I definitely think we're trying to rely too much on technology.
We definitely do have I can't tie saying this country
or that country is better. We do have creativity and
innovation and there are are people actually doing great work
(25:02):
in that. Do I think we have kind of slid
down in our performance and creativity than the man and
women of the early nineteen hundreds through nineteen seventies, I
think so. I think we are not as innovative or
creative or imaginative as those folks are, but we do
(25:27):
have that capability still, We do have the level of
motivations somewhere among our populace that takes their work and
builds on it and takes us even forward. I think
looking at astrophysicists for instance, and of course he had Einstein,
(25:52):
you have Hawkins and you have Brian Cox, who have
taken the work of the giants for them and they're
well now STEVEA. Hawkins has passed on, but there's taking it.
What's the next step? What are we looking at? And
with the James Webb telescope, which is technology, but it's
(26:15):
now informing the cosmos, astrophysicists astronomers, maybe we need to
look at things differently so they have the insight especially
indeed as well too.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
And of course another possible occurrence may happen if Earth
may contact with aliens or aliens coming over. Of course
that's all tied to the books as well too, part
of the Brancing series and what happens if Earth may
contact with aliens? What's going to happen possible aliens?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
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You heard me.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Go back to author Chrysler Lurk on the Mike Whitdners
Show with Brian and Saga featuring SCSG Explorer and Minervam.
And of course you know, we talked about some of
the things like diplomacy, also human common sense, future technology,
everything like that. The one thing what might happen if
Earth make contact with aliens? Or would be the other
(29:21):
way around to you, of course according to the books,
what happens?
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yeah, that's kind of what I thought of. I think
there's you know, what type of failine are you gonna encounter?
And be it we stumble on them or they stumble
on us. It boils them to intentions. You know, you
got the totally friendly alien that wants to help you out,
you got the total hostile alien that wants to eat
(29:46):
your face and conquer the planet.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
And then just like the cartoons, greetings Earthling, do not
get me angry.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Exactly here we come in peace. Are you get that
middle of the road that I don't know why who
you are, I don't trust you, Maybe we can figure
something out, and.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Or or talking in a different language where and may
be like you know a good language, a bad language, or.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
You know whatever too so, or sign language maybe hey,
And that's just the communication style. But I would look
at the either really friendly or the really hostile alien
as on the same plane. If you're really friendly waiting
to help me out, what's your intention? What do you
really want? The hostile one, I know what you want.
(30:38):
But my response to those two would be very similar.
I one I got had the military might and the
willpower to destroy is they're trying to destroy me the
other one and till I really know who and what
you are, you being over friendly makes me nervous, right, yeah,
(30:58):
just like a wolf in sheep's clothing, that principle, right,
And whereas the other that's more of human to human contact.
You're a little bit suspicious me. I'm a little bit
suspicious of you. We may have something we want from
each other, so now we can talk to each other.
(31:22):
They're not trying to buy me off or destroy me.
You're trying to figure me out, and I'll try to
figure you.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Out exactly, just like the case of the Comorrigan's you know,
according to the brand saga whole more of the intelligent
alien race. Along the way, the Earth Police encounters various
plant stations. It's because they're both friendly and hostile life
forums and new technologies, resources, everything like that. And then
you arrive it's almost like, you know, hoping for your peace.
(31:48):
Everthing turns out to be a dogfight, especially in the
first book.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Oh definitely, Well there's some real battles in Minerva. But yeah,
in SCSG Explorer, we finally get to Camorica and I
actually go through a thought process of how do we
approach this planet? Now do we send in one ship,
(32:15):
do we come in with total fleet, and if we
jump in all at once, how do we not scare
them and hopefully not get into a dog fight. You know,
maybe we can figure it out. And that's where the
diplomat comes in heavily to say, here's how I think
(32:37):
we ought to do it, and let's put together a message.
We have the Comorican language due to the message that
we stumbled upon years ago. We have some idea of
how to use that language, So that's what they do.
They come in and they immately broadcast a greeting uh
(33:01):
for several times, and the Comoricans are you don't see
the Camoricans. This is still coming from the admiral and
his crew's perspective, but for three days they're silence. It's
kind of like the Camoricans are caught flat footed and
(33:22):
they don't know what to do, per se, because they
never had this situation happened to them. They're the ones
that do it to everybody else.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Right, And of course you know they're looking for other
reasons buy, sell, trade and mention as well.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
What would be the potential for trade.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
It's like, you know, whether looking to trade, what's their
resources or you know what you're like here in America.
You know you got oil, weat corn, you know that
type of thing. Looking to trade?
Speaker 1 (33:51):
What do they offer?
Speaker 4 (33:52):
And for the Camoricans, and I mean I don't go
like gold, silver, copper, all that.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Well, and there are resources and they already went in
from Earth's perspective, here's what we're willing to trade, which
is exactly what you're saying. Do they need rare earth minerals?
Do they need lumber? Do they need finished products. It's
a mercantile type of relationship. We're looking at where we
(34:23):
get materials from them, we make a product and give
it back to them or sell back to you know,
those type of things. And at first it looks like
they're in trade negotiations. The Admiral and Michael Shay, the diplomat,
plus a small team. It's on the planet for a week.
(34:47):
The Admiral and Mike are in discussions with the Camoricans
and the Comoricans are showing them different aspects of their planet. Now,
one thing the humans do. They drop some recalled seal
teams onto Camorga and a very stealthy manner, So they're
(35:08):
out there learning who the Comoricans are without the Comorgans
knowing these teams are out there doing that. So a
little bit what's the right term, I mean, they are
spying on the Camorrigans in that sense you mean scouting. Yeah,
(35:28):
they're out there scouting, but they're actually trying to learn
more about the culture of the Camoricans and who they
really are. And they stumble at one of my seal
teams stumbles upon a creature called an Alia, and they
learn a very brief moment time a lot about the
(35:50):
Camorgans and their relationship to other species in that part
of the galaxy.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
So okay, that sounds rather interesting. And think Comorica would
be consider like an Atlantis or was it Wakanda I
think from the Marvel series, or would be like a
Star Wars type of setting.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Uh. I would definitely say away from mc U, that's
not what camorgan is. Camarga is really a plan of
a species. Uh. Oh, it's in the other room. I
did a hand drawing in a Camorican. Uh. There're a
three legged critter. Uh. They have two arms and two tentacles. Uh.
(36:37):
And I totally different, uh, creature from any humanoid. And
it turns out the Comoricans are actually a conquering species.
There they do expansion, but they do it through conquest.
And in the third book, because you only see the
(37:02):
Comoricans briefly in one chapter in SESG Explorer, in one
chapter of Minerva you see the Comoricans. But in Earth
Force one, the third book, you're going to see a
lot more of than Camoricans and the way they think
and behave and the different types of Comoricans. There's three
(37:24):
genega differences in that species, but they're not hiding their planet.
They just send out gerald message like we did with
the Golden Disk and all that, and they wait for
somebody to catch that and respond to Earth at the
(37:44):
United States in particular decide to respond by sending out
a fleet to go meet them on their homeworld. And
general order one is first location will always remain secret,
give it up no matter what. You will self destruct
your ship before you ever give up the secret. Where
(38:05):
Earth is at similar Earth the Hidden Kingdom, and I
guess this world.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
And plus you have another mysterious threat that's in there too.
According to Minerva is Plymouth Station.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Tell us about that. Well, Plymouth Station is discovered is
the first planet discovering SESG Explore and it would turn
out to become a battle and it had crystal source
of energy energy resource in form of crystals. By the
time Amiral Bradika his fleet return, Plymouth Station is now
(38:46):
settled by Earth and they've taken over the mining operations.
By Minerva, they're under constant pirate attacks. But there's a
space station called Say to the Station and se SG
Explorer that sent out a message and Explorer the strike
(39:09):
group got attacked by them, and that's the unknown threat
that Paul Cunnington and Explorer has given another strike group
in Minerva to go find them and eliminate them as
being a threat. And so that's kind of one of
the parallel stories going on in Minerva. You have Commodore
(39:35):
Kirby out to destroy pirates, you have General Cunnington out
to find and eliminate this threat. You have Michael Shay
out to find allies. And then you have Admiral Brannigan
back around Earth building this fleet as well as managing
all these operations. And then the operations officer from SESG,
(40:03):
Explorer Captain Lindsay, she has a mission to establish a
new colony on another planet and you go out and
support the diplomat after that. So got a lot of
things going on in the nerve of and I will
say General Connington does finally find that unknown threat and
(40:27):
he's trying to resolve it, but he does resolve it.
Just how please read the.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Book exactly if you want to find out more. Where
can you find all your books out, Chris.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
You can find them on the online bookstores. But my website,
Christophermorick dot com has the four major under each book.
The two books. I have the buttons to the major
online stores that you can get them, like Amazon, Barnes,
Noble Books, a Million and Bookshop. But yeah, Christopher Lord
(41:05):
dot com my website, you go to the books and
there they both are. I have an offense page like
this weekend, the eleventh, twelfth, thirteenth, I'll be at the
Knoxville Convention Center during Banboy Comic Con, where big names
celebrities are going to be there like Gene Simmons, Billy
(41:29):
d Williams, William Shatner, will Wheaton. I keep forgetting her name.
The one was the captain of the Forager. Oh William Shatner, Yeah,
no he was. Are George not Nemoy George or something
(41:49):
like that. Oh no, no, no no, this is the
TV series Voyager. Oh gosh, I'll have it here shortly.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
Yeah, because I was trying to think alone all designs
has been a while since I've watched it, but I'm
sure we'll come up with as well. To a here
with the amazing multi time author Christopher Lark of the
Brian and Saga featuring SESG explorer Minifa here on the
Mike Waters Show. Just a few more things Chris wants
to expect me twenty twenty five and beyond.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Well, oh Hella Hunt will be there.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
God what.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
So after I get back from the show, I'll be
working on the third book in the Bronigan saga as
well as my sci fi romance. I'm doing both of
them at the same time, which is kind of funny
because I got Kate McGrew, that's her name, Kate McGrew,
that's the name. I'm obviously keeping them separate, but I'm
(42:53):
willing to get them out, I hope next year. I mean,
I'm rolling pretty good with the third book of the
Bronican Saga, Sally. The Comoricans have come to me and said,
we want to be part of the story more, and
they're trying to educate me on their rank structure and
(43:15):
their military command system, so that way I can write
it down, be informative on that. And then I have
the other aliens and there of course one that are
part of it. So hopefully in twenty six I can
get that out the door and publish along with the
(43:38):
other novel. And I have a spinoff novel from this
trilogy dealing with the colony that Captain Lindsay has to
establish how do they survive on this alien world and
they're cut off from mirth, So.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
That will be interesting and we're looking forward to have
you on that for that one. And who considered biggest influence.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
In career for novel writing just in general, Well, that
would for the military was my mother more than anyone else.
And for writing my dad because he's the one that
(44:24):
had the books and we had those discussions. And now
that was mainly Island asthmav Yeah, but mainly Highland was
the one his whole story arc and his novels were
very good and interesting. Starship Trooper of the book, not
(44:48):
the movie. I'm trying to figure out how to work
in some form of armor into my stories that make
sense s CSG Explorer. I don't really describe it, but
they have armor. There are space suits Minerva. It turns
out that type of armor proof speed, major vulnerability to
(45:14):
the Earthmen. So in Minerva, Admiral Brandnigan goes and I
introduced a fictitious company to developed armor. He goes with
very narrow guidelines for them to develop new armor for
all the men and women of the military. He doesn't
(45:38):
want the casualties that he has just recently taken. He
wants to eliminate casualties. So I'm going to if I
do another offshoot from SESG Explorer, you'll see more about
the armor that's in SESG Explore and that's in Minerva,
but then you'll see it in Fall as well, because
(46:02):
that would be centering around a galactic marine and his
career from the time he's joined SESG Explore to some
point in the future and how they read designed the
entire armor to protect all the Guardians and the Galactic
(46:24):
Marines and what that means. I introduced the Space Marshals
and the second book and the way politics play there.
They were kind of leeching off the military, but Branigan
solves that problem, and because they're still under his budget,
(46:47):
he decides they're going to have better armor than what
they currently have. They're small team doing the law enforcement
the system they need to live.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Oh yeah, and we're certainly looking forward to that. And
what's the best advice you can give to any boy.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
At this point? Look, how you can serve your country
from more of an altruistic side, not you know, what
does the military provide me? Well, the US military has
a lot of great benefice. But do you join for
the benefice or do you serve the republic? Are you
(47:25):
out to make sure our republic stays alive? And well,
that can be service in the military, the diplomat corps,
or any of the sciences. But yeah, let's go forth
and serve. I tried to write an entertaining story but
also a thought provoking one and one that hopefully can
(47:47):
spark that desire for knowledge the future, but really service
to our republic, and I think that's really important as
well too. You've got some great advice.
Speaker 4 (47:57):
We're here with author Chris or Lark of the Brian
Saga featuring SCSG explorer Minerva here on the Mike Winter Show. Christoph,
very big thanks for time. You have been absolutely amazing
looking forward hand and soon learned a lot. Keep us
up today, keep in touch, lavavy back. What's your website?
How do people contact you? Where in people purchase or
check out your books?
Speaker 1 (48:17):
Getting Christopher Laurick dot com. You can contact me through there,
and there's also the bookstores there there, and I try
to keep the event page up to uh BAR so
you can meet me at conventions.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
We will certainly do that as well. Once again, Christopher
a very big thank if you time. You have an
aps fantastic looking forward having soon keeps up today, keep
in touch, lavabe back. We wish all best and Christopher,
you death have a great pitch.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
Great thank you you too.
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He turned a novelist and spent twenty eight years in military.
He's earned multiple awards. He also earned his NBA nineteen
ninety a Masters in National Security and Strategies and Studies
in four joined the US Navy in ninety three, served
as three combat staffs as well. He's got a new
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The major retired US Navy officer turned novelists and the
book is called SESG Explored Multi Talent Chrisopher Lurk, Chris Urricom, Marty,
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good afternoon, get any thanks for joining us today.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well, thank you. I'm glad to be here much going
to have you on Bard. Christopher. So, you're retired US
Navy officer turned novelists. You earned a number of awards.
You group in Norman and Oklahoma. You spent twenty eight
years in military. You earned your MBA in nineteen ninety
your Masters in National Security and Strategy Studies in O form.
You also joined the US Navy in ninety three serve
(02:42):
in three combat command staff. So you have a new
book which offers a compelling look at the future through
a lens of history inspired by real life military, scientific,
and diplomatic figures, and it's basically rooted in a classic
problem solving spirit of nineteen fifty sci fi without the
use of technology.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
The use of the mind. Is called SSG Explorer, part
of the Branking series. Workin on a Christopher tell Us
How I first got started?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Well, I started trying to write, and I say tried
to write back in my college days, but then my
studies took over. So then I joined the military and
real life there took over. But in two thousand and six,
when I was deployed and Iraq, the novel I wanted
to write was this novel, I CESG Explorer. It was
(03:33):
heavy Navy marine corpse centric, because that's why I knew
at that time. But when I came back from Iraq again,
my other duties with first Marine Division and then later
in Korea US Forces, Korea just consumed me. So I
(03:53):
finished it in twenty one and went through the publishing cycle.
In twenty two, I updated with the NewSpace Force. It's
a joint force that is going out into deep space
to meet the Kmoricans. So that's in a nutshell how
(04:13):
it got started. But characters come to mind. It's almost
like they walk in and say, tell my story.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
That's really unique, you know, characters walk up you and say,
come on, tell my story please.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I don't know how tell mine, Tell mine please, And
that's in essence. The main character, Admiral Brandigan, he has
a compilation of partially myself but admirals that I've worked
with as well as senior officers and kind of the
(04:52):
way we think in operational setting. I give throughout the
book a little bit about his background, you know, as
an officer growing up in the military, beings signed to
the un developing diplomatic skills along with this military expertise.
(05:12):
But I surround him with pretty much one chief scientists
who wrangles all the other scientists that are in the fleet.
He has a diplomat and then his officers, which of
course answered through his deputy commander to him. It's really
based off of command structure, our thought process of encountering
(05:38):
different situations, tried not to resort to violence, even though
they find themselves in plenty of danger where violence is
a part of it. But like you said, the only
real science fiction technology is the hyperspace drive and the
(06:01):
Ion sublight drive. I don't go into that. This is
more of a space opera and military operations with a
heavy dose of diplomacy with a smaller dose of science
behind it. It's technology we could actually produce today on
the planet ins set. Like I said, the hyperspace drive,
(06:23):
and I don't think DARPA's worked out a shield technology,
but I do have shields in there for the ships.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Okay, yeah, it sounds like you've got some technology in
there as well too, which could be used as well.
And what was that one exact, precise moment that simply
influence you into what you do in the rest of
your career, especially writing.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Oh back in my college days, I took a it
was actually in nineteen eighty three, my first college courses.
We took a movie type college course and we focused
in on Alfred Hitchcock and his movies, and we had
to write various things for the show or the course.
(07:12):
I wrote a short story that I really enjoyed, did
a good job on the instructor, really enjoyed it, and
I was going to really try and develop it when
I ran across a novel in one of our local
drug stores that was in essence my short story, but
already full length novel I'm published. So I turned towards
(07:37):
a totally different novel, and I was doing the research
on it, but I really put aside trying to write
short stories or poems, because again, my studies really needed
my attention more than my creative side. And then I
got into the military, and that was a totally different world.
(08:00):
But I found enough time being deployed to Iraq for
a year to crank out SESG Explorer. And then when
I retired, I was forced to stay at home because
my wife was bailing breast cancer at the time. Okay,
(08:22):
so you know with her treatment, having to take care
of her, and we happened to have two new puppies
at the same time. Nice congratulations, thinks. So it just
became when she's asleep, the puppies are either playing or down.
What do I do? So I went back to the
(08:43):
book and finished it. Oh my gosh, go ahead, I'm sorry.
Oh And after again SESG published, I failed to get
the second book, Minerva now published, which continues the saga.
(09:04):
Se s G Explorer was the first book in the saga.
Now I have Minerva out there. Uh, that's spelling, and
well I was gonna say, what's with you? Instead of
the E. I was just curious. Uh, it's just the way.
There was really no thought in it. Just Minerva was
(09:26):
the name I wanted, and when I typed it out,
it came out with the U. Oh, well, I'm looking
back at the great mythology and bands and all that.
Everything is really spelled with the k E. I'm like, well, cool,
that's the uniqueness of it. It's not like everything else,
(09:48):
but that's the spelling that the characters wanted me to
use on this book.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
And that is rather interesting thinking maybe some of the
characters who are screaming, come on, tell me this story
and everything and we'll get to that.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Who's your other favorite authors writers and favorite books? Growing
Chris Well the latest one, and I haven't really seen
much of his work lately, as Stephen R. Donaldson, and
he did the Thomas Covenant trilogies. There's three of those out.
(10:28):
I've read two of the three trilogies, and he did
The Chaos. I think it's The Chaos, and first I'd
have to look at my shelf back there, which he
went from a fantasy world to a sci fi world,
(10:49):
and the way he worked in there he twisted He
took from Norse mythos and kind of twisted that over
into sci fi type storytelling, and it was very intriguing,
and that also kind of helped formulate some of what
(11:09):
I was doing with the saga in there. Not a
There's only one area that I call him really delve
into science so speaking, that was when he was doing
a brain mapping and wow on a person to controller
(11:29):
to do whatever. The bad guy who kind turns into
an anti hero. He was using that to control her
and whatever he wanted her to do, and yet she
was still able to escape from him. But I don't
(11:49):
go into that type with this one. That's kind of
how I'm working a sci fi romance type novel. I'm
kind of going down that pass away a little bit
with that. Since some fans want me to write a
romance novel, I'll put in a space setting. Oh there
(12:13):
you go, and I think that's a great idea.
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We're hereth major retie USNE officer turned novelist and earned
numerous warris. Christopher Lurk on the Mic Winners Show with
SUSC Explorer, part of the Brandon series along with them Miniver.
Before getting back to those books, you had won a
number of awards as well too, And I'm trying to
find a listener.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
You had so many, like.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
With Defense Meditorious of Service Medals four times, also named
Marine Corps and everything like that.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I mean you all got awards, Uh yeah, thank you. Yeah.
The Defense Marior for a Service Medals comes from my
three combatant commands, US Forces Korea, US Strategic Command, US
Africa Command, and the last one was my last assignment
(15:07):
with the NATO Headquarters for Transformation where how to explain
that not only in my plans and operations officer, I
was a requirements officer, so I had to look at
what capabilities do we want in the military and what's
the requirement that would justify that capability and the expenditure
(15:30):
of dollars. NATO has something very similar to that. So
my last duty station, I was there doing various analysis
upon the NATO countries and what they had and what
capabilities did we want as an out alliance a political
(15:52):
slash military alliance. Now, and how do you look at
the threats around that. One of the things I saw
with then NATO that I thought we really needed was
a forelooking visionary document. You know, parts of NATO ARI
(16:12):
was doing that and there were staff that were looking
out at twenty years, ten years, five years, But the
discipline I was supporting did not have that, and they
really didn't want the operational side. I ran into resistance,
My command ran to assistance with our sister headquarters. They
(16:35):
didn't want that. They just want contrail on the fight tonight.
And it's like, well, you had to be part of
what we're going to be fighting, not only tonight but
five years from now, ten years, and how are you
going to command control whatever we're able to provide you
(16:56):
to do that? So that was an interesting dynamic, especially
being the US military, and that's kind of way we
looked at the world with some European allies that never
looked at the world that way. So that's kind of
where some of the diplomacy, even with the military, you
(17:18):
have to have allnescy between military members of other nations
in order to move forward, especially as an alliance.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
And made me think about the whole thing that the
European allies have a different timetable, time set, mindset and
everything like that. You talked about, you know, you having
a five ten year plan, but then want like, you
know one year right now, everything like that. That's where
you got to somehow. But it had was that the
same system that the European allies had that like one year,
five years, ten years or what was there time frame?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Like what was there a version of it? It really
depended more on which country we're talking to or where
they were at again shape or the operational side. In Belgium,
really we're not looking at five or ten years. They
(18:13):
were looking more at, well, we could be in war
right now, so you know, I'm more worried about what
that is or what operations they were actually sporting, because
NATO is actually involved in several different operations around Europe.
So they were just looking at primarily that what's in
(18:36):
front of them right now. And it was my command
that was more of that visionary you know, what are
we going to be basing, what logistics are going to
have to be adjusted or created to support that future
fight And in a way that's kind of wide and
(18:59):
trying to us in Minerva. Admirald Brandigan gets back and
he is now met the Americans. He's been out there,
so it's like, what capabilities do we need in order
to counter what I now know is out there? And
the diplomat Michael Shea is out there to try and
(19:19):
find allies, but are they going to be able to
actually communicate and figure out how are we going to
work together? Let alone what technology or capabilities they need.
They're more basic than that now a NATO has that
era from the late nineteen forties that we have worked together,
(19:43):
so we're kind of beyond those basics. I find times
we fall back to the same basics.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
And of course, well you know other things that's lacking
in international relations today besides your typical communication barriers, language.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And the persona and everything.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
And you mentioned there were conflicts you visualize a year,
five year, ten years, you know, they want it now
and everything like that. And of course Europe has been
accustomed to Warley constantly, especially what's happening Israel and irund
so like you know, you know, it's like now now now,
bomb bomb, bomb, every single day.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
And right, and like I said, it really depends which
country you're talking about. The UK and France for centuries
have been a little bit for thinking, you know, what
do we need now? The great arms race, the battleship
race from the eighteen nineties to World War Two, and
(20:43):
that was trying to figure out, how are we going
to make the bigger, baddest battleship out there, so nobody
wants to contest with us, and that's just another form
of an arms race that can bankrupt countries.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Right, yes, And I've read that. I read down reports
as well too that you know, the US would make
all these you know, cutting edge technology, big bombers, big ships.
So then after all, I was like in about five
ten years, become obsolete. And some don't even get off
the ground, saying, you know, you're building a warehouse or
garage wherever.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
It is, like it never gets out of there, it
just sets right. And that was kind of Lucky Martin
back in the nineteen sixties looking at aircraft and what
we were looking at. They were really forward thinking about
technology and what the future could hold. And that's where
(21:41):
now we get the stealth bomber and fighters in the
F thirty five. All that really started in the nineteen
sixties based off of you know, the first jets coming
out of the nineteen fifties, the men and women that
era in my mind for thinking people, and that's kind
(22:05):
of how I'm trying to bring some of that into
the novels. And that's where Sesg Explored. The Admiral comes
along and there's already the seven ship fleet and existence,
and he does some revamping which I just give you
(22:25):
the highlights of in the book, to refamp and bring
more scientific capability to the fleet. Is originally it was
just heavy military with very little science and no diplomacy.
The Admiral's like, but the mission is a diplomatic mission.
I need a diplomat. It's a small staff, but he
(22:49):
still was a heavy military presence because those are military
ships going out in Minerva. He's trying to now build
a earth fleet in order to take on the enemies
that arose out of Sesg Explore. And I have a
couple of discussions with the scientists about technology to make
(23:13):
that fleet better, more capable, more effective in combat. And meanwhile,
got other Earth expansion going on in Minerva as well
as a diplomat try and find allies a little bit
(23:34):
more into that and kind of that okay for thinking
And in the background is the politics. Do we want
to be isolationists. Do we want to expand? And how
fast do we expand if we do? And I don't
really hit on that heavily. It's just noise in the
(23:57):
background that here's the military trend to develop capability with
this political scene behind it, and that's you know, I
find that happening in our world today, be it NATO,
the EU, ason in the Pacific Allies. Everybody has their
(24:18):
interests and they want a piece of the pie. But
they also have their interests and that's where you get
the conflicts.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
And do you think the human common sense and enginuity
still exists today, hasn't gotten better? Has a stay of
same or do you think it's gotten worse and we're
relying too much on future technology?
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I definitely think we're trying to rely too much on technology.
We definitely do have I can't tie saying this country
or that country is better. We do have creativity and
innovation and there are are people actually doing great work
(25:02):
in that. Do I think we have kind of slid
down in our performance and creativity than the man and
women of the early nineteen hundreds through nineteen seventies, I
think so. I think we are not as innovative or
creative or imaginative as those folks are, but we do
(25:27):
have that capability still, We do have the level of
motivations somewhere among our populace that takes their work and
builds on it and takes us even forward. I think
looking at astrophysicists for instance, and of course he had Einstein,
(25:52):
you have Hawkins and you have Brian Cox, who have
taken the work of the giants for them and they're
well now STEVEA. Hawkins has passed on, but there's taking it.
What's the next step? What are we looking at? And
with the James Webb telescope, which is technology, but it's
(26:15):
now informing the cosmos, astrophysicists astronomers, maybe we need to
look at things differently so they have the insight especially
indeed as well too.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
And of course another possible occurrence may happen if Earth
may contact with aliens or aliens coming over. Of course
that's all tied to the books as well too, part
of the Brancing series and what happens if Earth may
contact with aliens? What's going to happen possible aliens?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
More will find out.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
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Speaker 4 (29:01):
Go back to author Chrysler Lurk on the Mike Whitdners
Show with Brian and Saga featuring SCSG Explorer and Minervam.
And of course you know, we talked about some of
the things like diplomacy, also human common sense, future technology,
everything like that. The one thing what might happen if
Earth make contact with aliens? Or would be the other
(29:21):
way around to you, of course according to the books,
what happens?
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yeah, that's kind of what I thought of. I think
there's you know, what type of failine are you gonna encounter?
And be it we stumble on them or they stumble
on us. It boils them to intentions. You know, you
got the totally friendly alien that wants to help you out,
you got the total hostile alien that wants to eat
(29:46):
your face and conquer the planet.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
And then just like the cartoons, greetings Earthling, do not
get me angry.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Exactly here we come in peace. Are you get that
middle of the road that I don't know why who
you are, I don't trust you, Maybe we can figure
something out, and.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Or or talking in a different language where and may
be like you know a good language, a bad language, or.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
You know whatever too so, or sign language maybe hey,
And that's just the communication style. But I would look
at the either really friendly or the really hostile alien
as on the same plane. If you're really friendly waiting
to help me out, what's your intention? What do you
really want? The hostile one, I know what you want.
(30:38):
But my response to those two would be very similar.
I one I got had the military might and the
willpower to destroy is they're trying to destroy me the
other one and till I really know who and what
you are, you being over friendly makes me nervous, right, yeah,
(30:58):
just like a wolf in sheep's clothing, that principle, right,
And whereas the other that's more of human to human contact.
You're a little bit suspicious me. I'm a little bit
suspicious of you. We may have something we want from
each other, so now we can talk to each other.
(31:22):
They're not trying to buy me off or destroy me.
You're trying to figure me out, and I'll try to
figure you.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Out exactly, just like the case of the Comorrigan's you know,
according to the brand saga whole more of the intelligent
alien race. Along the way, the Earth Police encounters various
plant stations. It's because they're both friendly and hostile life
forums and new technologies, resources, everything like that. And then
you arrive it's almost like, you know, hoping for your peace.
(31:48):
Everthing turns out to be a dogfight, especially in the
first book.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Oh definitely, Well there's some real battles in Minerva. But yeah,
in SCSG Explorer, we finally get to Camorica and I
actually go through a thought process of how do we
approach this planet? Now do we send in one ship,
(32:15):
do we come in with total fleet, and if we
jump in all at once, how do we not scare
them and hopefully not get into a dog fight. You know,
maybe we can figure it out. And that's where the
diplomat comes in heavily to say, here's how I think
(32:37):
we ought to do it, and let's put together a message.
We have the Comorican language due to the message that
we stumbled upon years ago. We have some idea of
how to use that language, So that's what they do.
They come in and they immately broadcast a greeting uh
(33:01):
for several times, and the Comoricans are you don't see
the Camoricans. This is still coming from the admiral and
his crew's perspective, but for three days they're silence. It's
kind of like the Camoricans are caught flat footed and
(33:22):
they don't know what to do, per se, because they
never had this situation happened to them. They're the ones
that do it to everybody else.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Right, And of course you know they're looking for other
reasons buy, sell, trade and mention as well.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
What would be the potential for trade.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
It's like, you know, whether looking to trade, what's their
resources or you know what you're like here in America.
You know you got oil, weat corn, you know that
type of thing. Looking to trade?
Speaker 1 (33:51):
What do they offer?
Speaker 4 (33:52):
And for the Camoricans, and I mean I don't go
like gold, silver, copper, all that.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Well, and there are resources and they already went in
from Earth's perspective, here's what we're willing to trade, which
is exactly what you're saying. Do they need rare earth minerals?
Do they need lumber? Do they need finished products. It's
a mercantile type of relationship. We're looking at where we
(34:23):
get materials from them, we make a product and give
it back to them or sell back to you know,
those type of things. And at first it looks like
they're in trade negotiations. The Admiral and Michael Shay, the diplomat,
plus a small team. It's on the planet for a week.
(34:47):
The Admiral and Mike are in discussions with the Camoricans
and the Comoricans are showing them different aspects of their planet. Now,
one thing the humans do. They drop some recalled seal
teams onto Camorga and a very stealthy manner, So they're
(35:08):
out there learning who the Comoricans are without the Comorgans
knowing these teams are out there doing that. So a
little bit what's the right term, I mean, they are
spying on the Camorrigans in that sense you mean scouting. Yeah,
(35:28):
they're out there scouting, but they're actually trying to learn
more about the culture of the Camoricans and who they
really are. And they stumble at one of my seal
teams stumbles upon a creature called an Alia, and they
learn a very brief moment time a lot about the
(35:50):
Camorgans and their relationship to other species in that part
of the galaxy.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
So okay, that sounds rather interesting. And think Comorica would
be consider like an Atlantis or was it Wakanda I
think from the Marvel series, or would be like a
Star Wars type of setting.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Uh. I would definitely say away from mc U, that's
not what camorgan is. Camarga is really a plan of
a species. Uh. Oh, it's in the other room. I
did a hand drawing in a Camorican. Uh. There're a
three legged critter. Uh. They have two arms and two tentacles. Uh.
(36:37):
And I totally different, uh, creature from any humanoid. And
it turns out the Comoricans are actually a conquering species.
There they do expansion, but they do it through conquest.
And in the third book, because you only see the
(37:02):
Comoricans briefly in one chapter in SESG Explorer, in one
chapter of Minerva you see the Comoricans. But in Earth
Force one, the third book, you're going to see a
lot more of than Camoricans and the way they think
and behave and the different types of Comoricans. There's three
(37:24):
genega differences in that species, but they're not hiding their planet.
They just send out gerald message like we did with
the Golden Disk and all that, and they wait for
somebody to catch that and respond to Earth at the
(37:44):
United States in particular decide to respond by sending out
a fleet to go meet them on their homeworld. And
general order one is first location will always remain secret,
give it up no matter what. You will self destruct
your ship before you ever give up the secret. Where
(38:05):
Earth is at similar Earth the Hidden Kingdom, and I
guess this world.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
And plus you have another mysterious threat that's in there too.
According to Minerva is Plymouth Station.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Tell us about that. Well, Plymouth Station is discovered is
the first planet discovering SESG Explore and it would turn
out to become a battle and it had crystal source
of energy energy resource in form of crystals. By the
time Amiral Bradika his fleet return, Plymouth Station is now
(38:46):
settled by Earth and they've taken over the mining operations.
By Minerva, they're under constant pirate attacks. But there's a
space station called Say to the Station and se SG
Explorer that sent out a message and Explorer the strike
(39:09):
group got attacked by them, and that's the unknown threat
that Paul Cunnington and Explorer has given another strike group
in Minerva to go find them and eliminate them as
being a threat. And so that's kind of one of
the parallel stories going on in Minerva. You have Commodore
(39:35):
Kirby out to destroy pirates, you have General Cunnington out
to find and eliminate this threat. You have Michael Shay
out to find allies. And then you have Admiral Brannigan
back around Earth building this fleet as well as managing
all these operations. And then the operations officer from SESG,
(40:03):
Explorer Captain Lindsay, she has a mission to establish a
new colony on another planet and you go out and
support the diplomat after that. So got a lot of
things going on in the nerve of and I will
say General Connington does finally find that unknown threat and
(40:27):
he's trying to resolve it, but he does resolve it.
Just how please read the.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Book exactly if you want to find out more. Where
can you find all your books out, Chris.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
You can find them on the online bookstores. But my website,
Christophermorick dot com has the four major under each book.
The two books. I have the buttons to the major
online stores that you can get them, like Amazon, Barnes,
Noble Books, a Million and Bookshop. But yeah, Christopher Lord
(41:05):
dot com my website, you go to the books and
there they both are. I have an offense page like
this weekend, the eleventh, twelfth, thirteenth, I'll be at the
Knoxville Convention Center during Banboy Comic Con, where big names
celebrities are going to be there like Gene Simmons, Billy
(41:29):
d Williams, William Shatner, will Wheaton. I keep forgetting her name.
The one was the captain of the Forager. Oh William Shatner, Yeah,
no he was. Are George not Nemoy George or something
(41:49):
like that. Oh no, no, no no, this is the
TV series Voyager. Oh gosh, I'll have it here shortly.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
Yeah, because I was trying to think alone all designs
has been a while since I've watched it, but I'm
sure we'll come up with as well. To a here
with the amazing multi time author Christopher Lark of the
Brian and Saga featuring SESG explorer Minifa here on the
Mike Waters Show. Just a few more things Chris wants
to expect me twenty twenty five and beyond.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Well, oh Hella Hunt will be there.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
God what.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
So after I get back from the show, I'll be
working on the third book in the Bronigan saga as
well as my sci fi romance. I'm doing both of
them at the same time, which is kind of funny
because I got Kate McGrew, that's her name, Kate McGrew,
that's the name. I'm obviously keeping them separate, but I'm
(42:53):
willing to get them out, I hope next year. I mean,
I'm rolling pretty good with the third book of the
Bronican Saga, Sally. The Comoricans have come to me and said,
we want to be part of the story more, and
they're trying to educate me on their rank structure and
(43:15):
their military command system, so that way I can write
it down, be informative on that. And then I have
the other aliens and there of course one that are
part of it. So hopefully in twenty six I can
get that out the door and publish along with the
(43:38):
other novel. And I have a spinoff novel from this
trilogy dealing with the colony that Captain Lindsay has to
establish how do they survive on this alien world and
they're cut off from mirth, So.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
That will be interesting and we're looking forward to have
you on that for that one. And who considered biggest influence.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
In career for novel writing just in general, Well, that
would for the military was my mother more than anyone else.
And for writing my dad because he's the one that
(44:24):
had the books and we had those discussions. And now
that was mainly Island asthmav Yeah, but mainly Highland was
the one his whole story arc and his novels were
very good and interesting. Starship Trooper of the book, not
(44:48):
the movie. I'm trying to figure out how to work
in some form of armor into my stories that make
sense s CSG Explorer. I don't really describe it, but
they have armor. There are space suits Minerva. It turns
out that type of armor proof speed, major vulnerability to
(45:14):
the Earthmen. So in Minerva, Admiral Brandnigan goes and I
introduced a fictitious company to developed armor. He goes with
very narrow guidelines for them to develop new armor for
all the men and women of the military. He doesn't
(45:38):
want the casualties that he has just recently taken. He
wants to eliminate casualties. So I'm going to if I
do another offshoot from SESG Explorer, you'll see more about
the armor that's in SESG Explore and that's in Minerva,
but then you'll see it in Fall as well, because
(46:02):
that would be centering around a galactic marine and his
career from the time he's joined SESG Explore to some
point in the future and how they read designed the
entire armor to protect all the Guardians and the Galactic
(46:24):
Marines and what that means. I introduced the Space Marshals
and the second book and the way politics play there.
They were kind of leeching off the military, but Branigan
solves that problem, and because they're still under his budget,
(46:47):
he decides they're going to have better armor than what
they currently have. They're small team doing the law enforcement
the system they need to live.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Oh yeah, and we're certainly looking forward to that. And
what's the best advice you can give to any boy.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
At this point? Look, how you can serve your country
from more of an altruistic side, not you know, what
does the military provide me? Well, the US military has
a lot of great benefice. But do you join for
the benefice or do you serve the republic? Are you
(47:25):
out to make sure our republic stays alive? And well,
that can be service in the military, the diplomat corps,
or any of the sciences. But yeah, let's go forth
and serve. I tried to write an entertaining story but
also a thought provoking one and one that hopefully can
(47:47):
spark that desire for knowledge the future, but really service
to our republic, and I think that's really important as
well too. You've got some great advice.
Speaker 4 (47:57):
We're here with author Chris or Lark of the Brian
Saga featuring SCSG explorer Minerva here on the Mike Winter Show. Christoph,
very big thanks for time. You have been absolutely amazing
looking forward hand and soon learned a lot. Keep us
up today, keep in touch, lavavy back. What's your website?
How do people contact you? Where in people purchase or
check out your books?
Speaker 1 (48:17):
Getting Christopher Laurick dot com. You can contact me through there,
and there's also the bookstores there there, and I try
to keep the event page up to uh BAR so
you can meet me at conventions.
Speaker 4 (48:34):
We will certainly do that as well. Once again, Christopher
a very big thank if you time. You have an
aps fantastic looking forward having soon keeps up today, keep
in touch, lavabe back. We wish all best and Christopher,
you death have a great pitch.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
Great thank you you too.
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