The multi-talented author, audiobook coach/producer and award-winning filmmaker Robert A. Lane talks about his latest release “Lights, Action, You!” based on his experiences in the entertainment business combining stories of valuable lessons and tools from his coaching to eliminate stress & overwhelm! Robert spent 30+ years in the entertainment industry including radio, TV, voiceover, post-production; spent 14 years at 20th Century Fox as Feature Project Manager, 20 years in audio as re-recording mixer, sound designer, voiceover artist, narrator, music composer for many projects, and is also a life coach and motivational speaker plus shares his stories spanning 30 years in the industry! Check out the amazing Robert A. Lane and his latest release on many major platforms and www.robertalanecoaching.com today! #podmatch #robertalane #author #audiobookcoach #lightsactionyou #producer #awardwinningfilmmaker #entertainmentbusiness #radio #TV #postproduction #20thcenturyfox #voiceoverartist #lifecoach #motivationalspeaker #spreaker #iheartradio #spotify #applemusic #youtube #anchorfm #bitchute #rumble #mikewagner #themikewagnershow #mikewagnerrobertalane #themikewagnershowrobertalane
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Jentlemens Award winning filmmaker most portly an author, audiobook coach, producer,
life coach, inspirational speaker. He's had thirty years of experiencing
entertainment industry radio, voiceover post production, spent fourteen years at
twentieth Century Fox as feature project manager, and also just
done some really wonderful things twenty years as in audis
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re recording mixer, sound design, voiceover artist, narrator, music composer
for many projects. And he's got a new book out
which based on experiences in the entertainment business, combining stories
of valuable lessons tools from coaching to eliminate stress and
overwhelm the book is called Lights Action. You would get
to more about that live Ladies and Gentlemen plus news
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and beautiful Downtown Sedona, Arizona. The multi talent author, audiobook coach, producer,
life coach, and war winning filmmaker, and the book Lights
Action You the multi talented Robert Lamb. Robert, good morning,
good afternue, good evening.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Thanks for joining us today.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
All right, No, I love the untroduction. Thank you so much.
That's good to be here.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Mike, Well, it's great to have you on board, and
you got some great work to talk about. You're an author,
audiobook coach, producer, life coach, inspirational speaker, and also war
winning filmmaker.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
We'll get to that.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
You spend thirty years in the entertainment business. You've been
in all kinds radio, voiceover, post production, spend fourteen years
at twentieth Century Fox, twenty years in audio. And your
new book is based on experience these entertainment business, combining stories,
valuable lessons tools from the coaching the books called Lights
Action You. Before going out, Robert tell us how I
first got started.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Well, you know what, I've always loved audio, been an
audio guy when I went to college wanted to be
in radio. So my first job, of course, was working
at a radio station doing production work, and then eventually
you know, hosting music shows and talk shows and doing
commercials and that that sort of thing. It was interesting
back then, uh, because I know you're you're a radio guy,
(03:25):
and I'm.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Sure you can we're all in the business. You got
to start somewhere right right right.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
It was really interesting because you know, back in the day,
you know, we had an automation system for our music
and it was the old reel to reel. Uh, I
remember remember that in the eighties w R Man, w J.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Kle.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
It's like you had to master the reel. It's like,
you know, you know, go through like a couple of
a couple of rollers. You have to get underneath the
tape heads. You had to get through a couple of rollers.
You had to wind it and to make a tail,
and you had to follow program is it heads?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Is it tails?
Speaker 5 (04:03):
I mean you really had to be a master ads. Like,
if you can learn how to thread a real real
you're in the business.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Well, I'll tell you, you know, I think people uh
nowadays don't realize what it was like to work with
you know, audio back then. I remember, uh, we had
an intern show at once and I was training him
at the station and we had a real, real deck
and there was a splicing block that was under the
deck and he asked, because what is that? I go,
(04:31):
it's a splicing block. He goes, what's that? I go, Well,
when you're editing tape, you put the tape in there
and then you cut the tape. You know, you figure
out what section that you want to you know, remove,
And he was just shock, you cut the tape.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
He must have been like a digital guy like you
know radio today. But I remember the whole spicing block.
You impressed people. It's like you wind, you had to
get it right, you cut, and then you're trying to
find a spot you cut, you put the tape out.
He had to do it nice and smooth, and it
sounded like, you know, just conversation like say that this
is a great team to play for, or you say
(05:08):
you cut out a team to play for. It you'd
be like, this is great to play for. It's like
you really had to master that. So I had a
lot of fun with the tape and it was like, yeah,
it's a competition in that one.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Yeah, it was you know, it was a lot of fun.
And then eventually I did work for Playboy Radio for
a while and engineered their radio show. But then I
eventually did some on camera work, off camera work and
then post production, but still really got into the audio thing,
and then I got into doing audio posts for film music,
(05:40):
composing and that sort of thing.
Speaker 7 (05:42):
Though.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
The last part of my career was at twentieth Century Fox,
working on the studio a lot for about fourteen years
or so, but that was more on the corporate side
of things, being a feature project manager, so overseeing the
post production work for their new releases and for their
catalog of features, and that was that was my career
(06:04):
up until when Disney bought Fox. That was a big
acquisition that happened a few years ago.
Speaker 7 (06:12):
We were back into that.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah, that was you know. So you know, the Disney
lawyers came over to our department around February March of
twenty twenty and they made the choice for you. Either
they keep you and you now work for Disney, or
you're fired and see you later. So I get called
down to the talk to the Disney lawyers and I'm
on the first round of firings.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Oh my gosh, they didn'tenjoy any mickey mousing right there,
I'll tell you.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
I know they didn't. And so my last day was
on June thirtieth, the twenty twenty. So I was out
of a job and were, you know, obviously deep into
a pandemic at that time, so interesting times. But I
decided that I didn't want to go back to the
corporate world. I've already worked thirty plus years in the
entertainment business and loved it, and I loved it, but
(07:01):
I felt pulled to a new direction, and so I
decided that I wanted to do something with more purpose
and help people. So I created Robert Lane Coaching as
a career coaching life coach and to help people navigate
through any kind of work environment and really achieve true
work life balance. And so I started to do that,
and then I had other people approach me and say, oh, man,
(07:25):
you worked all those years in the entertainment business. You
must have some stories to tell. And so I gave
that some thought, and I said, you know, maybe I
will write a memoir or write a book. And that's
what inspired Light's action. Knew, but I wanted to make
it more than just sharing stories. So with each story
and experience that I put in the book, I tie
(07:46):
in a tool or technique or a life lesson so
that people could get something of more value to help them,
and you know, and kind of tie that into the
career life coaching aspect. So that's what I did publish
lights Action you after. Of course I did the audiobook.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Got to do that, right, yeah, And I think that's
been the big thing. I did some audio books before too.
You put on Amazon and it's accessible and everything else and.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
All all that.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Of course, you know you had some experience as well too,
maybe some of your funny experiences when you were with
the twentieth century one of the radio stations and everything.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I'll throw my star at there.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
One time that worked for Ethnic Boker radio stationed up
at w KTA in suburban Chicago, where I was actually
running a program behind the board and of course with
a lady that you know, hardly spoke English, you know,
just pointed what music to play, speak and everything. And
then and then it was so hot in room one day.
It's like, you know, she was wearing with those like
(08:46):
those like those jackets and everything like that. Somehow got
down here and isn't too hot in here. She just
went simper about that, and she turned beat red and
suddenly starts speaking English. So I think that's one of
the bigger ones I had. I thought it was so
funny as heck. And then another one where it's like
Christmas party. It's like some guys were coming over, had
a party, give give a shot the drake, and next
(09:07):
thing you know, you're just so ibvy you couldn't run
the board. And another guy came in to his program.
He and his whole family were out of it. But
we had a lot of fun just run the board,
just you'll off of vodka and schnapps and everything else.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
So yeah, there were some really crazy times. Probably one
of the fun memories that I have at Fox is
I went to in the building that I worked in.
It was actually a great building. It was one of
the original sound stages, and it was the building where
they had the scoring stage, which was great because you
can hear them doing all the music for the film.
(09:41):
And then upstairs where I worked there were a lot
of voiceover rooms and one of them was the voiceover
stage that the Simpsons would come in every week the
outage and they would you record their voiceover. So, well,
one day I go to the kitchen. I'm heating up
my leftover Korean food from the night or and there's
(10:01):
a gentleman and his friends sitting in the kitchen, and
of course I recognize one of them, which who was
Robert Downey Jr. And but you know, we're professionals. You know,
you don't get all starstruck. So I just went in
there and I wasn't even facing I'm microwaving my food,
and I hear here somebody say, hey, hey, what'd you
(10:24):
cook it over there? And it was Robert Downey Junior.
Oh my gosh, So I'm like leftover Korean food. So
he stands up, he outstretches his hand and he and
he says, Hi, my name is Robert. Of course you
know I know who it is. I go, really, I go,
my name's Robert too, And he laughed, and he goes,
(10:47):
I'll remember that, and then he and then he goes, oh,
he goes, you know you like kim She and I go, actually, no,
I don't. And we can do this whole conversation about
the best kimchi places in La and all this stuff,
but we have to say, like ridiculous conversation about Koreans.
But he was like the nicest guy, the nicest guy,
(11:09):
and had such a great conversation with him. But you know,
just a great experience. You know, those those actors who
are really the A players. I would say, you know,
the highest percentage of them are really nice people. And
they and they and that's why they are the A
players because they understand that if it wasn't for us,
(11:30):
the fans, the general public, they wouldn't have a.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Career or behind the scenes with your work as well too,
you know, with post production, voiceover and just about everything
and of course what really goes behind the scenes, you know,
really make things happen, like with The Simpsons and all
the other programs.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Yeah, you know, it was actually pretty exciting every week
to to see the Simpsons actors come in. There were
times where you know, I'd go to the Commissarya to
get a couple of cope in the morning and and
Julie Kavner, who does Marge, is in front of me ordering,
but that's her voice, so it's it's you know, it's
just funny to you know, to hear Marge Simpson ordering
(12:10):
a you know, a coffee.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
The sorry you want you want yours in black?
Speaker 4 (12:17):
That's exactly what it sounded like. But you know again
all all really nice people, really nice people.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Oh good, Okay, we do have a lot of experience
as well too, And of course I'm more into the
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We hate the amazing multi talent veteran robert A.
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Lane here on The Mike Winner Show author, audiobook coach, producer,
life coach, inspirational speaker, and more. And you say you've
been to the radio business for a while and or
talk about your lover radio first of all, and how'd
you get bit by a radio bug? First of all,
it's like everybody's got a radio bug. Story might went
a who way back to nineteen eighty two.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
You know, that's a really good question, because I was
just drawn to it. I loved doing radio. I was
a station manager at the college radio station, and I
used to do you know, silly voices and just you know,
it was just a lot of fun. I felt that
that it was just a really creative outlet. And you know,
(15:34):
back you know, back in the day, of course, there
was more creative freedom before the big corporations, right, yeah, all.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Those I don't want to mention this time.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
So so, you know, it was it was a lot
of fun. It just it was just just drawn, just
drawn to it. I really loved the not only being
on air, but just the production side of it too.
You know, I felt that that was really creative. And and
you know, again still today, I still do audio work
as an audiobook coach and producer. I still look at it.
(16:06):
Even with editing audio books for authors, it's still to
me a very creative thing because I, you know, you
tune into how is their pacing and how is you know,
you know, and to really make it sound fantastic, and
that's that's still a creative aspect of it. So I
just love doing it.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
And I think that's great as well too. Who is
your favorite gj's growing up? Also your favorite actors and
movies growing up as well?
Speaker 7 (16:31):
Well?
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Since I grew up in Los Angeles, probably the show
I listened to most was was Mark and Brian on
k os Uh. Listened to them for many years, and
then once that show ended, and then when Mark Thompson
came back to do radio just by himself on a
different it was the sound if I forget what the
(16:54):
callers were, but he did that for about a year
before the station format changed. Uh, So that's who I followed.
You know, I've been a rock and roll guy, so
I listen to the.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Rock Oh yeah, oh yeah, We've been there, done that,
so just about every format possible, as I've done just
by a lot of things forty years in the business.
And we talked off cam about some of the things
and everything, and of course being an audiobook coach as
well too, that you seem to be inspired and maybe
some of your favorite books and or even some authors
(17:27):
growing up well.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
I often say the authors that go through my audiobook
coaching program, they're fantastic. They you know, a lot of
authors that I've worked with have written memoirs, so they're
sharing very personal stories. I also have authors who are
coaches who have a coaching program, or they're educators or teachers,
or even poets or children's book writers. You know, it's
(17:50):
great to have the author tell that story. And I'm
a big advocate for especially nonfiction authors to narrate their
own audiobook because it's their story. Nobody on this planet
can rest their story the way that they can because
they lived it, they experienced it. You could have the
best voiceover person in the world, but it's still their
interpretation because there are subtleties and there are nuances that
(18:11):
the author presents that's part of their personality that you know,
another narrator. Technically they'll sound great, but from an emotional standpoint,
they're going to miss the mark. So I feel it's
really important for the authors to narrate their own audio
book and they do such a great job and they're
not professional speakers, and I love that. That really makes
me really happy and fulfilled when I hear them, and makes.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Your job easier too, So I don't have to worry
about the coaching, the pacing, you know, addiction and you
know voice inflections, no eyes, it's coming from the actual
person self. We had no experience, and just let them
share their story.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Right, Being your true authentic self is the key. Just
be your true authentic self. You don't have to try
to sound like somebody else or you know, that's part
of who your author brand is. Everything that encompasses who
you are personality, your sense of humor, your belief systems,
your habits, all of that and your voice. That's all
part of who you are and that's what allows you
to stand out in the crowd. So yeah, it's a
(19:10):
great thing, it really is.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
And I think part of it as well too, you know,
getting into the audio big industry, voiceover industry, and I
guess that's a big thing is like maybe if we're
there perspective, how you break in. There's agencies out there,
there's some companies out there, and of course you'll break
in in the radio one thing, and a number of
ways to get in maybe, like you know, best advice
and pointers. That's like I guess you get asked the
(19:33):
question a lot. You know, how do I get in
the business. Let's hear from you. Let's say if I
ask you how do I get in the business, how
would you answer it?
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Well, if you're a narrator and you're looking for narrating jobs,
I would say, well are There are a couple of places,
especially if you're focusing on audiobooks. You can go to ACX.
ACX is under the Amazon umbrella and that's where you
get published on Audible, Amazon and Apple. But you can
(20:00):
also sign up as a narrator. There's another company called
find a Way Voices that does audiobook narration. You can
hook up with them and see if you can be
a narrator through them. So there's a variety of ways
to do it. You know, thinking outside the box really
(20:22):
nowadays is the best way. It's not like you like
you know, back in the day, how you'd get get
a job.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Things are so different now right, And of course I'll
tell you I share my side of the story that
I got into radio that trying to get in a
commercial station. You can't just walk in and say, hey,
I like a job there, throw at your audition tapes
with a classic way to go. But I mangined navigating
my way being a sports producer who are actually ran
the board in case there's a baseball game, football, basketball, hockey,
(20:52):
whatever it is, it's like you'd be behind the board,
make sure they're connected. You communicate, you know, through the
board to the announcer, you play commercials, you throw it
back and something went wrong and ste up to your troubleshoot.
I managed to navigate my way through and then when
sports em was over, you know, i'd say nearly nine
percent of the time, the station will want you back,
you know, not just doing sports, but keep you on
(21:14):
as a fill in of some sorts. And that's how
I got in, you know, fill in weekends, fill in holidays,
or help out with remotes and everything. I managed to
get in through the backway thanks to sports and.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
That and that is the way to do it. That
was the way to do it. It is that you
go in there, you learn how to run the board,
because that's important. You got to have those technical skills
to understand how to do that and that. You know,
you just made yourself incredibly valuable right off the bat.
And then going out and doing remotes, that's another another skill.
You got to have a technical skill to be able
to do that, but then being able to jump in
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as an on air personality, and that's how it is.
You get maybe it's an overnight shift, maybe it's a
weekend shift, and if they like you and you're doing
a great job, then you're in. So that's yeah, that
that that was uh and that was a really enjoyable
way of doing it. You really felt accomplished, you know,
each each step that you took that advanced your career.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
And of course you've been yourself too.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
And of course, so you also wrote the book Lights
Action You and of course you know a bit more
about the book, you covered a little bit of it
and of course sharing stories and everything like that, and
you know, just uh be inspired.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
About the book. You know, how'd you come up with that?
Tell first of all, and more about the book.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Uh, well, I had a lot of people, like I mentioned, say,
you know, you need to write a book about your
experiences in the entertainment industry. So uh so again I formulated, uh,
just picked stories that I felt would be not only
enjoyable to read, but again that I can tie in
some kind of uh life lesson or a technique or
tool or something, you know, for time management, how to
(22:50):
deal with bad bosses? You know, what do you do?
You know about dealing with fear, dealing with confidence, dealing
with stress? Uh. So I would present a situation that
was my experience and then say here are some tools
that can help you if you are dealing with something
that's similar. So, even though the book is about the
(23:10):
entertainment business, it's not geared only for entertainment people. You know,
anybody can read this book and and enjoy the content
and still get something out of it.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
You talked about dealing with stress, dealing with bad bosses,
or dealing with time management and everything. Maybe and pick
one of those and you know, share a little story
about that and maybe a tip about You can pick
either one time management, bad bosses, stress, or you know,
whatever you want to talk about. Maybe a little tip
out makes someone's day.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Yeah, absolutely, in regards to you know what, let's talk
about fear, because fear is something that we all experience
in all facets of our life. And I have a
little catchphrase that I mentioned in the book to help
deal with fear, and it's called face it, embrace it,
(24:02):
purge it, replace it. Four steps, face it, embrace it, purgeant,
replace it. So basically, just kind of give you a
quick overview, you know, facing your fear. Basically, you acknowledge
you have this fear. Maybe it's a fear of speaking,
maybe it's a fear of it, could be anything really,
so you acknowledge the fear, all right, face it. Next
is embrace it. Embrace it meanings meaning you strip away
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the layers, you get down to the root, cause what
is it that's making you feel this fear? This barrier,
like again, a barrier that's stopping you from moving forward
usually is a result of some kind of a fear.
So I say embrace as opposed to confront your fears
because confront sounds aggressive and it's no Just embrace it
(24:46):
and talk about it, journal about it, get it out
there in the open. So you're facing it now, you're
embracing it. So the next phage is purge it, and
what that means really is you're moving it aside. You
understand have this fear, now move it aside. And now
you're going to do the fourth step, which is replace it,
replace it with something positive. And what you're doing is
(25:07):
you're changing your your subconscious. You're thinking, you're moving this
fear side and bringing in positivity. Now, when you purge
a fear, it doesn't mean it disappears forever. I can
may come back and that's natural, that's human nature, and
that's okay. But now you're you're aware of it. So
now you can say, oh, okay, that's that fear coming up. Well,
(25:28):
let me think of, you know, other positive things and
just kind of reprogram your your subconscious and it's it's
you know, it's it's a simple step to be able
to deal with fear and build confidence because I like,
I hear a lot from the authors that.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
I work with.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Oh oh, I hate my voice. I don't like how
I sound, And it's like, no, your voice is fantastic
because that's who you are, that's what makes you you
so love embrace your voice, have confidence and we talk
about that and usually it is a fear.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
And leed you to a book called your Book Your
Voice about that one, since you just kind of tied
our way into itself.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Right, So your book your Voice is what it's the
name of the audiobook coaching program that I teach, and
it's a six week program where I help the authors
set up their own recording space and I send them
the professional equipment, and it's part of the program. It's
theirs to keep professional mic, professional headphones, everything that they need.
That's part of the program. Help them set up their
(26:24):
recording space, and then the coaching aspect comes in, teaching
them how to be authentic and compelling and engaging and
how to really bring out their true authentic self when
they do their narration. The coaches act comes off and
the audio editors act comes on because as they record
their audiobook, they're sending me their audio files and then
I sit there and I edit, clean it up, remove
mouth noises or anything that I can do to clean
(26:45):
it up, and most importantly, make sure it meets the
exact specifications for publication, because if it doesn't, it's going
to get rejected. So then I upload the files for
them into ACX for Audible, Amazon and Apples, so if
there are any issues I know about it, I make
the adjustments. They don't have to worry about it, and
they will be published correctly the first time. And When
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I edit, I edit in real time. I go through
everything well with a fine tooth calm, because you have to.
You can't run it through some restoration program and go, Okay,
it's all. It's all done, because there are things you're
gonna miss and you can't do that to your clients.
You got to give them the best of the best.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Right exactly it. And of course that's something important as
well too. And with your book and your voice, we'll
get more about how to get the books. And you've
bed and were winning filmmaker. I think that's something we're
talking about. Get that Robert lame you listen to the
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Hi, I'm Burl Bear, legendary American author, and I'm here
to tell you about Missing. The new mystery suspense novel
by me and mosen Ze is really a good book,
very surprising, never metaphor I did a like especially in
this book. Here you have a main character whose wife
has been filled with the spare His wife died a
nine to eleven is a young daughter died of a
rare disease. He's not a happy camper. What does he
(28:56):
do for a living. He's a physical fitness trainer. When
somebody hardly knows, somebody's never met. He only has encountered
of our internet chat line goes missing. This is his journey.
He's going to go rescue them. This is his search
for redemption and search for his own personal promise. Land.
He couldn't do anything about the death of his wife,
the death of his child, but maybe he could rescue
(29:17):
this woman he's never met, that is, if she exists.
Missing by Me and Moss and Zia International in scope,
vastly entertaining, full of surprises. I suggest you get it
either paperback or an electronic condition for your kindle. Missing
by Me and moson ZEA.
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Mike Wagner Show. You can check out our music and
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Follow us on Facebook, YouTube, Spotify, TikTok. You can friend
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We have them available in CD or thumb drive.
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Thank you so much, I said, hope you have a
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the songs he wrote. His time as a shepherd in
the field is will. The book starts, and it goes
on to describe his complicated and turbulent relationship with King Saul,
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Speaker 1 (30:37):
Hey, Hey, this is Ray Powers and boy are you
in luck? Right place, right time?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Tuned into the Mike Wagner Show.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
You heard me.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Went back to the amazing author and audiobook coach Robert
Lane here on Mike Wagner's show. And not only that,
you're an award winning filmmaker and we like to hear
more about that.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Well, I had decided at one point that I wanted
to make a film, so I made a short film.
It's actually about twenty five minutes twenty six minutes long,
and it's called Iye Doll. And it's a psychological thriller.
And I was working at Fox at the time, and
at that time, I was helping out my aunt. My
(31:21):
uncle had passed away my aunt's home. She never went
back to the home because she had health issues and
was living in an assistant living places.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
But my uncle was.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
A hoarder and the house was a disaster, so I
would help clean that out.
Speaker 8 (31:38):
That house.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
But my aunt had a doll collection, two hundred three
hundred maybe plus porcelain dolls.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
I was talking to a friend of mine, my coworker
at Fox, and he says, man, you should make a horror.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Film with all those dolls.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
So I thought about it, and I actually said, well,
you know, I don't have the production to make a
you know, a Chucky movie.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Or any like that.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
But I thought, well, maybe I could make a psychological thriller.
So I did, and I utilized the dolls and I
created the story. And what was great about working at
Fox is that I asked my boss if I can
go into the audio bas to mix the film myself
and so I did. I did a stereo mix and
did a five to oneth surround mix, went in on
my own time when the studio was open, and let
(32:23):
me do it. They didn't even charge me for it,
which was great actually, And and so I released this
film and it actually won Best Film at the Idaho
Music or was it Idaho Media Awards.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
That's right. Nice nice.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
So that was fun. It was a great experience. One
of the things that I learned is that you should
not try to wear too many hats.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Yeah, that's a good point. Too many people do it nowadays, Jell.
Thanks to social media and everything, we earn so many hats.
Of course, you're working for a corporate you're first to
wear so many hats. But that is a really good point.
Try not to wear too many of them.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Yeah, you know. And so if I ever decided to
make another film, I'm going to hire more people.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
That's a good thing.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
And in the meantime, where can we find lights Action
you your book, your voice and all your other works
at Robert.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
You can get lights Action new. It's up there on Amazon.
There's the paperback version, the ebook version, and of course
the audiobook version. You can grab that it's there for
the taking.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Oh yeah, that sounds great. We will check that.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
We're an amazing multi tawer Robert A Lane of Lights
action you here on the Mike Wedners Show. Just a
few more things. What else can we expect from you?
Twenty twenty five and beyond.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Well, what I've been doing in regards to the career
life coaching aspect is instead of doing coaching with people
one on one or in group, I take that side
of the business and I do speaking engagements of corporations
or community events associations, and I feel I'm able to
reach more people and help more people as a speaker
(33:57):
sharing the career life coaching aspect. In regards to one
on one coaching, that's where the Your Book, Your Voice
audiobook coaching program comes in, where I do coach authors
through that whole process of narrating and recording their own audiobook.
So that's that's basically what I do and I love
doing it and will continue to do it.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
That's amazing.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
And how do authors get a hold of you if
they want your services? How do they get ahold of you?
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Simplest ways just to go to go to my website.
Robert Lane coaching dot com. Pretty simple, Robert Lane coaching
dot com. There's all these little buttons there that says
book a call, and that's your first step. Because I
believe in talking to the authors in person or at
least in zoom.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Or way to do it these days.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Yes, right, because you know what, I don't believe in
sending somebody to a landing page and you scroll, scroll, scroll,
scroll scroll, give me your credit card. Very impersonal, very impersonal.
I want to talk to the author, and so because
we're going to work together, and I want to make
sure we both resonate with each other. And if you're
into it and you're ready to go, we get you enrolled.
In six weeks later you have your audiobook recorded.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
That sounds great.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
And of course, you know the days of zoom and everything.
You also patch up a phone line as well too.
That was another skill you had doing radio patch up
a phone line program. Yeah, those patch course and everything.
That was a that was fun right there.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
So oh my lord, yeah, there was uh you had
that you had uh or the was it a t
one line? I'm trying to remember a lot like you
had these uh uh uh higher quality uh.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
I think I think you know you're talking about it's
T one or I think it's I d N.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
I'm trying to.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
End.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
That was a big thing. If you had I S
d N, you were in the business.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
So that's right.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Oh boy, how things change.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
I still remember the days of taking the r c
as quarter cord jacks. Plug one here, plug one there,
record a program on the RCA boards, those big knobs,
those big buses, press press, click, click, and you.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Knew you were own business right there.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
So, oh, you know, I'd like to share a quick
story with you. Now, before we had a digital uh
delay uh delay button, needed that delay button when you're
doing live shows, we had the old cart machine and
I would actually build carts. I would actually uh pull
out seven seconds worth of tape, wind that into the car,
(36:28):
put it in the cart machine, and took out the
you know, the tone, so that it would just continuously loop.
And so when you broadcast, it first went into the
cart machine and then it went out. So if there
was something that happened that needed to be bleeped out,
you actually had to hold a button, the erase button,
(36:50):
for seven seconds to make sure. Oh yeah, yes, that
was that was nuts. But of course, you know, uh,
we finally at that radio station working, we finally got
the digital one where it would dump, you know, just
short it up and then eventually, uh bring it back
to that seven second delay, or.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
Our just simply just you know, just turn turn them
down everything starts swearing, and turn it back up, or
you just please say, okay, that's up. We'll go a
commercial break and start chewing them out a little bit,
give them a little business. Okay, well we're gonna be
right back and click on a PS eight or so.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
But you know, again, it was fun back in the day,
and even even in music as a musician. You know,
I used to take things on tape and flip them
back so I can do it in reverse and do
all these other creative things.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
You know.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
Now, of course, we know with pro tools and all
these other digital audio things, it's just one click of
a button you can do those things. But back then,
you know, you had to really be creative in uh
uh in sound design, and you would have to create
them yourself. And that was fun mhm.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
And certainly a lot of fun.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
Indeed, And of course, you know a lot of big
things going on, and I'm sure you talk about that
on your tours and everything else. And also just a
couple more things. Who do you consider biggest influence in.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
The career.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
And career you know, I think my my instructors at college.
Ray Wilson was the radio guy and just he was
just a really brilliant man, you know, tough teacher, but
that was exactly what you need. And but just a
really really great instructor. And then there was a guy
(38:32):
named jim Eskilson who taught the television side of things.
And again a couple of great instructors. They were very influential.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
And so amazing as well. And what's the best advice
you can give the aim by this point.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
You know what the best advice I can give to anybody,
whether it's no matter what you do, is be your
true authentic self. Be your true authentic self because that's
who you are. And again that's what allows you to
stand out the crowd because there's nobody else like you.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Mm hm. And you certainly got that right.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
You hit right ahead, Robert, We're here the amazing multi
tier Robert Lane of lights Action. You your book, your voice
here on the mic, right your show, Robert Verb, thanks
you time, You've been absolutely fantastic, learned a lot, looking
forward him soon, keeps up today, keep in touch, lavi
back and what's your website?
Speaker 3 (39:16):
How do people contact you?
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Where can people purchase your books and especially check out
your services?
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Right again, just go to Robertlank Coaching dot com. You
can follow me on Instagram at robertlink Coaching, Facebook Robert
Lank Coaching. You can even find me on LinkedIn as well.
But yeah, the website really is the best spot, Robertlankcoaching
dot com.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
All right, well, so dly check that out once again, Robert,
very big, thank you for time.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
You've been absolutely fantastic, learned a lot, looking forward him soon,
keeps up to date, keep in touch, love heavy back.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
We wish out best and Robert, you definitely have a
great feature.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
He you. Thank you so much. Mike's been a pleasure.
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Speaker 7 (40:48):
Hi. I'm Burl Bear, legendary American author, and I'm here
to tell you about Missing, the new mystery suspense novel
by me and mosen Ze. It is really a good book,
very surprising. Never metaphor I didn't like, especially in this book.
Here you have a main character whose life has been
filled with despair. His wife died of nine to eleven,
is a young daughter died of a rare disease. He's
(41:08):
not a happy camper. What does he do for a living?
He's a physical fitness trainer. When somebody hardly knows, somebody's
never met, he always encountered on our internet chat line,
goes missing. This is his journey. He's going to go
rescue them. This is his search for redemption and search
for his own personal promise.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
Land.
Speaker 7 (41:27):
He couldn't do anything about the death of his wife,
the death of his child, but maybe he could rescue
this woman he's never met, that is, if she exists.
Missing by Me and most in Zia international in scope,
vastly entertaining, full of surprises. I suggest you get it
either paperback or an electronic addition for your kindle. Missing
by Me and Mosenzia.
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through the songs he wrote. His time as a shepherd
in the field is where the book starts, and it
goes on to describe his complicated and turbulent relationship with
King Saul as well as other events. It's a story
(42:07):
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on approaching God and living a life that pleases him.
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We're here with a terrific.
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Jentlemens Award winning filmmaker most portly an author, audiobook coach, producer,
life coach, inspirational speaker. He's had thirty years of experiencing
entertainment industry radio, voiceover post production, spent fourteen years at
twentieth Century Fox as feature project manager, and also just
done some really wonderful things twenty years as in audis
(01:52):
re recording mixer, sound design, voiceover artist, narrator, music composer
for many projects. And he's got a new book out
which based on experiences in the entertainment business, combining stories
of valuable lessons tools from coaching to eliminate stress and
overwhelm the book is called Lights Action. You would get
to more about that live Ladies and Gentlemen plus news
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and beautiful Downtown Sedona, Arizona. The multi talent author, audiobook coach, producer,
life coach, and war winning filmmaker, and the book Lights
Action You the multi talented Robert Lamb. Robert, good morning,
good afternue, good evening.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Thanks for joining us today.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
All right, No, I love the untroduction. Thank you so much.
That's good to be here.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Mike, Well, it's great to have you on board, and
you got some great work to talk about. You're an author,
audiobook coach, producer, life coach, inspirational speaker, and also war
winning filmmaker.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
We'll get to that.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
You spend thirty years in the entertainment business. You've been
in all kinds radio, voiceover, post production, spend fourteen years
at twentieth Century Fox, twenty years in audio. And your
new book is based on experience these entertainment business, combining stories,
valuable lessons tools from the coaching the books called Lights
Action You. Before going out, Robert tell us how I
first got started.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Well, you know what, I've always loved audio, been an
audio guy when I went to college wanted to be
in radio. So my first job, of course, was working
at a radio station doing production work, and then eventually
you know, hosting music shows and talk shows and doing
commercials and that that sort of thing. It was interesting
back then, uh, because I know you're you're a radio guy,
(03:25):
and I'm.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Sure you can we're all in the business. You got
to start somewhere right right right.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
It was really interesting because you know, back in the day,
you know, we had an automation system for our music
and it was the old reel to reel. Uh, I
remember remember that in the eighties w R Man, w J.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Kle.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
It's like you had to master the reel. It's like,
you know, you know, go through like a couple of
a couple of rollers. You have to get underneath the
tape heads. You had to get through a couple of rollers.
You had to wind it and to make a tail,
and you had to follow program is it heads?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Is it tails?
Speaker 5 (04:03):
I mean you really had to be a master ads. Like,
if you can learn how to thread a real real
you're in the business.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Well, I'll tell you, you know, I think people uh
nowadays don't realize what it was like to work with
you know, audio back then. I remember, uh, we had
an intern show at once and I was training him
at the station and we had a real, real deck
and there was a splicing block that was under the
deck and he asked, because what is that? I go,
(04:31):
it's a splicing block. He goes, what's that? I go, Well,
when you're editing tape, you put the tape in there
and then you cut the tape. You know, you figure
out what section that you want to you know, remove,
And he was just shock, you cut the tape.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
He must have been like a digital guy like you
know radio today. But I remember the whole spicing block.
You impressed people. It's like you wind, you had to
get it right, you cut, and then you're trying to
find a spot you cut, you put the tape out.
He had to do it nice and smooth, and it
sounded like, you know, just conversation like say that this
is a great team to play for, or you say
(05:08):
you cut out a team to play for. It you'd
be like, this is great to play for. It's like
you really had to master that. So I had a
lot of fun with the tape and it was like, yeah,
it's a competition in that one.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Yeah, it was you know, it was a lot of fun.
And then eventually I did work for Playboy Radio for
a while and engineered their radio show. But then I
eventually did some on camera work, off camera work and
then post production, but still really got into the audio thing,
and then I got into doing audio posts for film music,
(05:40):
composing and that sort of thing.
Speaker 7 (05:42):
Though.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
The last part of my career was at twentieth Century Fox,
working on the studio a lot for about fourteen years
or so, but that was more on the corporate side
of things, being a feature project manager, so overseeing the
post production work for their new releases and for their
catalog of features, and that was that was my career
(06:04):
up until when Disney bought Fox. That was a big
acquisition that happened a few years ago.
Speaker 7 (06:12):
We were back into that.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah, that was you know. So you know, the Disney
lawyers came over to our department around February March of
twenty twenty and they made the choice for you. Either
they keep you and you now work for Disney, or
you're fired and see you later. So I get called
down to the talk to the Disney lawyers and I'm
on the first round of firings.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Oh my gosh, they didn'tenjoy any mickey mousing right there,
I'll tell you.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
I know they didn't. And so my last day was
on June thirtieth, the twenty twenty. So I was out
of a job and were, you know, obviously deep into
a pandemic at that time, so interesting times. But I
decided that I didn't want to go back to the
corporate world. I've already worked thirty plus years in the
entertainment business and loved it, and I loved it, but
(07:01):
I felt pulled to a new direction, and so I
decided that I wanted to do something with more purpose
and help people. So I created Robert Lane Coaching as
a career coaching life coach and to help people navigate
through any kind of work environment and really achieve true
work life balance. And so I started to do that,
and then I had other people approach me and say, oh, man,
(07:25):
you worked all those years in the entertainment business. You
must have some stories to tell. And so I gave
that some thought, and I said, you know, maybe I
will write a memoir or write a book. And that's
what inspired Light's action. Knew, but I wanted to make
it more than just sharing stories. So with each story
and experience that I put in the book, I tie
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in a tool or technique or a life lesson so
that people could get something of more value to help them,
and you know, and kind of tie that into the
career life coaching aspect. So that's what I did publish
lights Action you after. Of course I did the audiobook.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Got to do that, right, yeah, And I think that's
been the big thing. I did some audio books before too.
You put on Amazon and it's accessible and everything else and.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
All all that.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Of course, you know you had some experience as well too,
maybe some of your funny experiences when you were with
the twentieth century one of the radio stations and everything.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I'll throw my star at there.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
One time that worked for Ethnic Boker radio stationed up
at w KTA in suburban Chicago, where I was actually
running a program behind the board and of course with
a lady that you know, hardly spoke English, you know,
just pointed what music to play, speak and everything. And
then and then it was so hot in room one day.
It's like, you know, she was wearing with those like
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those like those jackets and everything like that. Somehow got
down here and isn't too hot in here. She just
went simper about that, and she turned beat red and
suddenly starts speaking English. So I think that's one of
the bigger ones I had. I thought it was so
funny as heck. And then another one where it's like
Christmas party. It's like some guys were coming over, had
a party, give give a shot the drake, and next
(09:07):
thing you know, you're just so ibvy you couldn't run
the board. And another guy came in to his program.
He and his whole family were out of it. But
we had a lot of fun just run the board,
just you'll off of vodka and schnapps and everything else.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
So yeah, there were some really crazy times. Probably one
of the fun memories that I have at Fox is
I went to in the building that I worked in.
It was actually a great building. It was one of
the original sound stages, and it was the building where
they had the scoring stage, which was great because you
can hear them doing all the music for the film.
(09:41):
And then upstairs where I worked there were a lot
of voiceover rooms and one of them was the voiceover
stage that the Simpsons would come in every week the
outage and they would you record their voiceover. So, well,
one day I go to the kitchen. I'm heating up
my leftover Korean food from the night or and there's
(10:01):
a gentleman and his friends sitting in the kitchen, and
of course I recognize one of them, which who was
Robert Downey Jr. And but you know, we're professionals. You know,
you don't get all starstruck. So I just went in
there and I wasn't even facing I'm microwaving my food,
and I hear here somebody say, hey, hey, what'd you
(10:24):
cook it over there? And it was Robert Downey Junior.
Oh my gosh, So I'm like leftover Korean food. So
he stands up, he outstretches his hand and he and
he says, Hi, my name is Robert. Of course you
know I know who it is. I go, really, I go,
my name's Robert too, And he laughed, and he goes,
(10:47):
I'll remember that, and then he and then he goes, oh,
he goes, you know you like kim She and I go, actually, no,
I don't. And we can do this whole conversation about
the best kimchi places in La and all this stuff,
but we have to say, like ridiculous conversation about Koreans.
But he was like the nicest guy, the nicest guy,
(11:09):
and had such a great conversation with him. But you know,
just a great experience. You know, those those actors who
are really the A players. I would say, you know,
the highest percentage of them are really nice people. And
they and they and that's why they are the A
players because they understand that if it wasn't for us,
(11:30):
the fans, the general public, they wouldn't have a.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Career or behind the scenes with your work as well too,
you know, with post production, voiceover and just about everything
and of course what really goes behind the scenes, you know,
really make things happen, like with The Simpsons and all
the other programs.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Yeah, you know, it was actually pretty exciting every week
to to see the Simpsons actors come in. There were
times where you know, I'd go to the Commissarya to
get a couple of cope in the morning and and
Julie Kavner, who does Marge, is in front of me ordering,
but that's her voice, so it's it's you know, it's
just funny to you know, to hear Marge Simpson ordering
(12:10):
a you know, a coffee.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
The sorry you want you want yours in black?
Speaker 4 (12:17):
That's exactly what it sounded like. But you know again
all all really nice people, really nice people.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Oh good, Okay, we do have a lot of experience
as well too, And of course I'm more into the
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We hate the amazing multi talent veteran robert A.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Lane here on The Mike Winner Show author, audiobook coach, producer,
life coach, inspirational speaker, and more. And you say you've
been to the radio business for a while and or
talk about your lover radio first of all, and how'd
you get bit by a radio bug? First of all,
it's like everybody's got a radio bug. Story might went
a who way back to nineteen eighty two.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
You know, that's a really good question, because I was
just drawn to it. I loved doing radio. I was
a station manager at the college radio station, and I
used to do you know, silly voices and just you know,
it was just a lot of fun. I felt that
that it was just a really creative outlet. And you know,
(15:34):
back you know, back in the day, of course, there
was more creative freedom before the big corporations, right, yeah, all.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Those I don't want to mention this time.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
So so, you know, it was it was a lot
of fun. It just it was just just drawn, just
drawn to it. I really loved the not only being
on air, but just the production side of it too.
You know, I felt that that was really creative. And and
you know, again still today, I still do audio work
as an audiobook coach and producer. I still look at it.
(16:06):
Even with editing audio books for authors, it's still to
me a very creative thing because I, you know, you
tune into how is their pacing and how is you know,
you know, and to really make it sound fantastic, and
that's that's still a creative aspect of it. So I
just love doing it.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
And I think that's great as well too. Who is
your favorite gj's growing up? Also your favorite actors and
movies growing up as well?
Speaker 7 (16:31):
Well?
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Since I grew up in Los Angeles, probably the show
I listened to most was was Mark and Brian on
k os Uh. Listened to them for many years, and
then once that show ended, and then when Mark Thompson
came back to do radio just by himself on a
different it was the sound if I forget what the
(16:54):
callers were, but he did that for about a year
before the station format changed. Uh, So that's who I followed.
You know, I've been a rock and roll guy, so
I listen to the.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Rock Oh yeah, oh yeah, We've been there, done that,
so just about every format possible, as I've done just
by a lot of things forty years in the business.
And we talked off cam about some of the things
and everything, and of course being an audiobook coach as
well too, that you seem to be inspired and maybe
some of your favorite books and or even some authors
(17:27):
growing up well.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
I often say the authors that go through my audiobook
coaching program, they're fantastic. They you know, a lot of
authors that I've worked with have written memoirs, so they're
sharing very personal stories. I also have authors who are
coaches who have a coaching program, or they're educators or teachers,
or even poets or children's book writers. You know, it's
(17:50):
great to have the author tell that story. And I'm
a big advocate for especially nonfiction authors to narrate their
own audiobook because it's their story. Nobody on this planet
can rest their story the way that they can because
they lived it, they experienced it. You could have the
best voiceover person in the world, but it's still their
interpretation because there are subtleties and there are nuances that
(18:11):
the author presents that's part of their personality that you know,
another narrator. Technically they'll sound great, but from an emotional standpoint,
they're going to miss the mark. So I feel it's
really important for the authors to narrate their own audio
book and they do such a great job and they're
not professional speakers, and I love that. That really makes
me really happy and fulfilled when I hear them, and makes.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Your job easier too, So I don't have to worry
about the coaching, the pacing, you know, addiction and you
know voice inflections, no eyes, it's coming from the actual
person self. We had no experience, and just let them
share their story.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Right, Being your true authentic self is the key. Just
be your true authentic self. You don't have to try
to sound like somebody else or you know, that's part
of who your author brand is. Everything that encompasses who
you are personality, your sense of humor, your belief systems,
your habits, all of that and your voice. That's all
part of who you are and that's what allows you
to stand out in the crowd. So yeah, it's a
(19:10):
great thing, it really is.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
And I think part of it as well too, you know,
getting into the audio big industry, voiceover industry, and I
guess that's a big thing is like maybe if we're
there perspective, how you break in. There's agencies out there,
there's some companies out there, and of course you'll break
in in the radio one thing, and a number of
ways to get in maybe, like you know, best advice
and pointers. That's like I guess you get asked the
(19:33):
question a lot. You know, how do I get in
the business. Let's hear from you. Let's say if I
ask you how do I get in the business, how
would you answer it?
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Well, if you're a narrator and you're looking for narrating jobs,
I would say, well are There are a couple of places,
especially if you're focusing on audiobooks. You can go to ACX.
ACX is under the Amazon umbrella and that's where you
get published on Audible, Amazon and Apple. But you can
(20:00):
also sign up as a narrator. There's another company called
find a Way Voices that does audiobook narration. You can
hook up with them and see if you can be
a narrator through them. So there's a variety of ways
to do it. You know, thinking outside the box really
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nowadays is the best way. It's not like you like
you know, back in the day, how you'd get get
a job.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Things are so different now right, And of course I'll
tell you I share my side of the story that
I got into radio that trying to get in a
commercial station. You can't just walk in and say, hey,
I like a job there, throw at your audition tapes
with a classic way to go. But I mangined navigating
my way being a sports producer who are actually ran
the board in case there's a baseball game, football, basketball, hockey,
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whatever it is, it's like you'd be behind the board,
make sure they're connected. You communicate, you know, through the
board to the announcer, you play commercials, you throw it
back and something went wrong and ste up to your troubleshoot.
I managed to navigate my way through and then when
sports em was over, you know, i'd say nearly nine
percent of the time, the station will want you back,
you know, not just doing sports, but keep you on
(21:14):
as a fill in of some sorts. And that's how
I got in, you know, fill in weekends, fill in holidays,
or help out with remotes and everything. I managed to
get in through the backway thanks to sports and.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
That and that is the way to do it. That
was the way to do it. It is that you
go in there, you learn how to run the board,
because that's important. You got to have those technical skills
to understand how to do that and that. You know,
you just made yourself incredibly valuable right off the bat.
And then going out and doing remotes, that's another another skill.
You got to have a technical skill to be able
to do that, but then being able to jump in
(21:47):
as an on air personality, and that's how it is.
You get maybe it's an overnight shift, maybe it's a
weekend shift, and if they like you and you're doing
a great job, then you're in. So that's yeah, that
that that was uh and that was a really enjoyable
way of doing it. You really felt accomplished, you know,
each each step that you took that advanced your career.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
And of course you've been yourself too.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
And of course, so you also wrote the book Lights
Action You and of course you know a bit more
about the book, you covered a little bit of it
and of course sharing stories and everything like that, and
you know, just uh be inspired.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
About the book. You know, how'd you come up with that?
Tell first of all, and more about the book.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Uh, well, I had a lot of people, like I mentioned, say,
you know, you need to write a book about your
experiences in the entertainment industry. So uh so again I formulated, uh,
just picked stories that I felt would be not only
enjoyable to read, but again that I can tie in
some kind of uh life lesson or a technique or
tool or something, you know, for time management, how to
(22:50):
deal with bad bosses? You know, what do you do?
You know about dealing with fear, dealing with confidence, dealing
with stress? Uh. So I would present a situation that
was my experience and then say here are some tools
that can help you if you are dealing with something
that's similar. So, even though the book is about the
(23:10):
entertainment business, it's not geared only for entertainment people. You know,
anybody can read this book and and enjoy the content
and still get something out of it.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
You talked about dealing with stress, dealing with bad bosses,
or dealing with time management and everything. Maybe and pick
one of those and you know, share a little story
about that and maybe a tip about You can pick
either one time management, bad bosses, stress, or you know,
whatever you want to talk about. Maybe a little tip
out makes someone's day.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Yeah, absolutely, in regards to you know what, let's talk
about fear, because fear is something that we all experience
in all facets of our life. And I have a
little catchphrase that I mentioned in the book to help
deal with fear, and it's called face it, embrace it,
(24:02):
purge it, replace it. Four steps, face it, embrace it, purgeant,
replace it. So basically, just kind of give you a
quick overview, you know, facing your fear. Basically, you acknowledge
you have this fear. Maybe it's a fear of speaking,
maybe it's a fear of it, could be anything really,
so you acknowledge the fear, all right, face it. Next
is embrace it. Embrace it meanings meaning you strip away
(24:25):
the layers, you get down to the root, cause what
is it that's making you feel this fear? This barrier,
like again, a barrier that's stopping you from moving forward
usually is a result of some kind of a fear.
So I say embrace as opposed to confront your fears
because confront sounds aggressive and it's no Just embrace it
(24:46):
and talk about it, journal about it, get it out
there in the open. So you're facing it now, you're
embracing it. So the next phage is purge it, and
what that means really is you're moving it aside. You
understand have this fear, now move it aside. And now
you're going to do the fourth step, which is replace it,
replace it with something positive. And what you're doing is
(25:07):
you're changing your your subconscious. You're thinking, you're moving this
fear side and bringing in positivity. Now, when you purge
a fear, it doesn't mean it disappears forever. I can
may come back and that's natural, that's human nature, and
that's okay. But now you're you're aware of it. So
now you can say, oh, okay, that's that fear coming up. Well,
(25:28):
let me think of, you know, other positive things and
just kind of reprogram your your subconscious and it's it's
you know, it's it's a simple step to be able
to deal with fear and build confidence because I like,
I hear a lot from the authors that.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
I work with.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Oh oh, I hate my voice. I don't like how
I sound, And it's like, no, your voice is fantastic
because that's who you are, that's what makes you you
so love embrace your voice, have confidence and we talk
about that and usually it is a fear.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
And leed you to a book called your Book Your
Voice about that one, since you just kind of tied
our way into itself.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Right, So your book your Voice is what it's the
name of the audiobook coaching program that I teach, and
it's a six week program where I help the authors
set up their own recording space and I send them
the professional equipment, and it's part of the program. It's
theirs to keep professional mic, professional headphones, everything that they need.
That's part of the program. Help them set up their
(26:24):
recording space, and then the coaching aspect comes in, teaching
them how to be authentic and compelling and engaging and
how to really bring out their true authentic self when
they do their narration. The coaches act comes off and
the audio editors act comes on because as they record
their audiobook, they're sending me their audio files and then
I sit there and I edit, clean it up, remove
mouth noises or anything that I can do to clean
(26:45):
it up, and most importantly, make sure it meets the
exact specifications for publication, because if it doesn't, it's going
to get rejected. So then I upload the files for
them into ACX for Audible, Amazon and Apples, so if
there are any issues I know about it, I make
the adjustments. They don't have to worry about it, and
they will be published correctly the first time. And When
(27:07):
I edit, I edit in real time. I go through
everything well with a fine tooth calm, because you have to.
You can't run it through some restoration program and go, Okay,
it's all. It's all done, because there are things you're
gonna miss and you can't do that to your clients.
You got to give them the best of the best.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Right exactly it. And of course that's something important as
well too. And with your book and your voice, we'll
get more about how to get the books. And you've
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Speaker 4 (31:00):
Well, I had decided at one point that I wanted
to make a film, so I made a short film.
It's actually about twenty five minutes twenty six minutes long,
and it's called Iye Doll. And it's a psychological thriller.
And I was working at Fox at the time, and
at that time, I was helping out my aunt. My
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uncle had passed away my aunt's home. She never went
back to the home because she had health issues and
was living in an assistant living places.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
But my uncle was.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
A hoarder and the house was a disaster, so I
would help clean that out.
Speaker 8 (31:38):
That house.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
But my aunt had a doll collection, two hundred three
hundred maybe plus porcelain dolls.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
I was talking to a friend of mine, my coworker
at Fox, and he says, man, you should make a horror.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Film with all those dolls.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
So I thought about it, and I actually said, well,
you know, I don't have the production to make a
you know, a Chucky movie.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Or any like that.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
But I thought, well, maybe I could make a psychological thriller.
So I did, and I utilized the dolls and I
created the story. And what was great about working at
Fox is that I asked my boss if I can
go into the audio bas to mix the film myself
and so I did. I did a stereo mix and
did a five to oneth surround mix, went in on
my own time when the studio was open, and let
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me do it. They didn't even charge me for it,
which was great actually, And and so I released this
film and it actually won Best Film at the Idaho
Music or was it Idaho Media Awards.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
That's right. Nice nice.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
So that was fun. It was a great experience. One
of the things that I learned is that you should
not try to wear too many hats.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Yeah, that's a good point. Too many people do it nowadays, Jell.
Thanks to social media and everything, we earn so many hats.
Of course, you're working for a corporate you're first to
wear so many hats. But that is a really good point.
Try not to wear too many of them.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Yeah, you know. And so if I ever decided to
make another film, I'm going to hire more people.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
That's a good thing.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
And in the meantime, where can we find lights Action
you your book, your voice and all your other works
at Robert.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
You can get lights Action new. It's up there on Amazon.
There's the paperback version, the ebook version, and of course
the audiobook version. You can grab that it's there for
the taking.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Oh yeah, that sounds great. We will check that.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
We're an amazing multi tawer Robert A Lane of Lights
action you here on the Mike Wedners Show. Just a
few more things. What else can we expect from you?
Twenty twenty five and beyond.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Well, what I've been doing in regards to the career
life coaching aspect is instead of doing coaching with people
one on one or in group, I take that side
of the business and I do speaking engagements of corporations
or community events associations, and I feel I'm able to
reach more people and help more people as a speaker
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sharing the career life coaching aspect. In regards to one
on one coaching, that's where the Your Book, Your Voice
audiobook coaching program comes in, where I do coach authors
through that whole process of narrating and recording their own audiobook.
So that's that's basically what I do and I love
doing it and will continue to do it.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
That's amazing.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
And how do authors get a hold of you if
they want your services? How do they get ahold of you?
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Simplest ways just to go to go to my website.
Robert Lane coaching dot com. Pretty simple, Robert Lane coaching
dot com. There's all these little buttons there that says
book a call, and that's your first step. Because I
believe in talking to the authors in person or at
least in zoom.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Or way to do it these days.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Yes, right, because you know what, I don't believe in
sending somebody to a landing page and you scroll, scroll, scroll,
scroll scroll, give me your credit card. Very impersonal, very impersonal.
I want to talk to the author, and so because
we're going to work together, and I want to make
sure we both resonate with each other. And if you're
into it and you're ready to go, we get you enrolled.
In six weeks later you have your audiobook recorded.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
That sounds great.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
And of course, you know the days of zoom and everything.
You also patch up a phone line as well too.
That was another skill you had doing radio patch up
a phone line program. Yeah, those patch course and everything.
That was a that was fun right there.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
So oh my lord, yeah, there was uh you had
that you had uh or the was it a t
one line? I'm trying to remember a lot like you
had these uh uh uh higher quality uh.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
I think I think you know you're talking about it's
T one or I think it's I d N.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
I'm trying to.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
End.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
That was a big thing. If you had I S
d N, you were in the business.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
So that's right.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Oh boy, how things change.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
I still remember the days of taking the r c
as quarter cord jacks. Plug one here, plug one there,
record a program on the RCA boards, those big knobs,
those big buses, press press, click, click, and you.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Knew you were own business right there.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
So, oh, you know, I'd like to share a quick
story with you. Now, before we had a digital uh
delay uh delay button, needed that delay button when you're
doing live shows, we had the old cart machine and
I would actually build carts. I would actually uh pull
out seven seconds worth of tape, wind that into the car,
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put it in the cart machine, and took out the
you know, the tone, so that it would just continuously loop.
And so when you broadcast, it first went into the
cart machine and then it went out. So if there
was something that happened that needed to be bleeped out,
you actually had to hold a button, the erase button,
(36:50):
for seven seconds to make sure. Oh yeah, yes, that
was that was nuts. But of course, you know, uh,
we finally at that radio station working, we finally got
the digital one where it would dump, you know, just
short it up and then eventually, uh bring it back
to that seven second delay, or.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
Our just simply just you know, just turn turn them
down everything starts swearing, and turn it back up, or
you just please say, okay, that's up. We'll go a
commercial break and start chewing them out a little bit,
give them a little business. Okay, well we're gonna be
right back and click on a PS eight or so.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
But you know, again, it was fun back in the day,
and even even in music as a musician. You know,
I used to take things on tape and flip them
back so I can do it in reverse and do
all these other creative things.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
You know.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
Now, of course, we know with pro tools and all
these other digital audio things, it's just one click of
a button you can do those things. But back then,
you know, you had to really be creative in uh
uh in sound design, and you would have to create
them yourself. And that was fun mhm.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
And certainly a lot of fun.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
Indeed, And of course, you know a lot of big
things going on, and I'm sure you talk about that
on your tours and everything else. And also just a
couple more things. Who do you consider biggest influence in.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
The career.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
And career you know, I think my my instructors at college.
Ray Wilson was the radio guy and just he was
just a really brilliant man, you know, tough teacher, but
that was exactly what you need. And but just a
really really great instructor. And then there was a guy
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named jim Eskilson who taught the television side of things.
And again a couple of great instructors. They were very influential.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
And so amazing as well. And what's the best advice
you can give the aim by this point.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
You know what the best advice I can give to anybody,
whether it's no matter what you do, is be your
true authentic self. Be your true authentic self because that's
who you are. And again that's what allows you to
stand out the crowd because there's nobody else like you.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Mm hm. And you certainly got that right.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
You hit right ahead, Robert, We're here the amazing multi
tier Robert Lane of lights Action. You your book, your voice
here on the mic, right your show, Robert Verb, thanks
you time, You've been absolutely fantastic, learned a lot, looking
forward him soon, keeps up today, keep in touch, lavi
back and what's your website?
Speaker 3 (39:16):
How do people contact you?
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Where can people purchase your books and especially check out
your services?
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Right again, just go to Robertlank Coaching dot com. You
can follow me on Instagram at robertlink Coaching, Facebook Robert
Lank Coaching. You can even find me on LinkedIn as well.
But yeah, the website really is the best spot, Robertlankcoaching
dot com.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
All right, well, so dly check that out once again, Robert,
very big, thank you for time.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
You've been absolutely fantastic, learned a lot, looking forward him soon,
keeps up to date, keep in touch, love heavy back.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
We wish out best and Robert, you definitely have a
great feature.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
He you. Thank you so much. Mike's been a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
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