The DDLG Effect w/ Kiki Cali

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Of the misfit effect, and of course I'm doing my
warn for the spectacular very juicy co hosts that loved
the Miss Sarah lace.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Speaking of juicy, I just finished the whole watermelon by
myself yesterday, so uh, very juicy.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
And I don't know where it goes, to be honest,
but I think it's like all the extra sugar, you know,
that extra sweet sugar.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Speaking of sugar, little miss sweet Spice and everything nice
over here, the gorgeous kee Gee Cali, little beautiful.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
So you are pretty new, aren't you?

Speaker 4 (00:43):
Super new? I mean just in the lane of like mainstream. Yeah,
that's it. But I've been doing like independent creating for
eight years.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Okay, so not a newvie, no, but the new path.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
How long you've actually been active?

Speaker 4 (01:06):
You say for eight years?

Speaker 1 (01:10):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:10):
No, no, no, no mainstream.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Oh oh my gosh, it's only the third week. I'm
pretty sure.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Oh my gosh, my gosh.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
Oh you're right. It's a month in just about almost
I got.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
It's like your month aniversary.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Yeah, I didn't even think about it that way. I
like it stealing.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
I feel like the first month is definitely very important
to kind of figure out what you want to do.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
As far as mainstream.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Goes, I'm also noticing I think, like or at least
from my first experience, so I did try like two
years ago. The agency I was with, I think they
just pushed me into the wrong image of a persona.

(02:06):
I just get a little more sexy and but like,
I'm not sexy. I'm like identify with cute and I
love it. It took me a long time to accept
that too, So thank you to sexual.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
But you are sexy, my friend sexy.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Guess I agree. Sexy in the way of being cute though.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, I kind of get it though, because I like, sure,
I may be twenty eight, but I'm still selling that
whole teen fantasy that cutesy, adorable girln next door as
opposed to grown stripper kind of vibes, you know. So
I do kind of see that, and I feel like

(02:47):
with that persona. It's also like different because as a stripper,
you're kind of a little bit more dominant, more assertive,
like kind of telling them what you want versus kind
of grown next door You're just like, yeah, you do
whatever you want to meet.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Yes, that's definitely true for sure, for sure, especially like
I used to wear such cute I make my stripper
wear because I so, I went to college for it.
And yeah, so I would make my outfits. I still do.
I only wear those. And in the beginning I could
get away with like really cutesy ones, like really ones

(03:28):
like baby Girl. And ever since COVID, it's just like
money has changed, economy has changed, the style has changed,
so I had to change with it, but I miss it.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
I think that's one of the great things, though, is
being able to evolve with the times.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yes, if you don't evolve, you're gonna end up stuck.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
Actually, one of my favorite things I've been told by
anyone was by Penny Barber and yeah, and it was
like the start of COVID, where you know, credit credit
card broadcesters started being mean, which like it was our
kink too, so didn't make things easy. And I asked

(04:15):
her in my group chat, like what are you gonna do?
Like you do tons of taboo stuff, and they're they're
like banning some of that and like banning the part
that she does the most. Yeah, she was like she
basically said, the same thing you just did. She was like, yeah,
just gotta adapt. I'm just adapting this in the first time,

(04:38):
Like you're.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Right absolutely, Like, for example, and these aren't even that
crazy kinks or anything like that, but on of they've
taken down a couple of different videos. One of them
I was squirting, mind you on porn Hub, they'd taken
a scorting video down to and then on of they
took one down where I was gaping. It wasn't even

(05:02):
a full like no crazy anal or nothing like that.
It was just a regular penetration. He pulled out. I
had my cheeks open, bam. That was enough to get.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
It taken down.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
I had.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
We had a video taken down the podcast because someone said,
uh said the word pee.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Oh yep.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
It's like one of my favorite ones too. It's very annoying,
I know.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
And it's like even if a certain creator doesn't care
for that kink, we care that other sex workers are trying.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
To make money off of that.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
So for example, I mean, not be big into that
kind of fetish, but hey, if my fellow performers want
to film it and they're not hurting anyone, slip them.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
Yep. I agree. I agree. And times have changed a
lot in that sense too, Like people don't really I
think that way, but only fans of the Devil. I
like protested to everyone I can, like, don't even be
started on a rant. First of all, they cover their
own asses and that's about it. So yeah, I got
kicked off. No, not actually kicked off. I have like

(06:16):
a sexy account on there that I use it, but
my stuff is like kicked off, and like that's what
I do. I don't really want to do the sexy stuff,
so yeah, fuck it.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
I've been suspended on there twice already, and I'm basically
like I at this point like obviously, don't put all
your eggs in one basket. I have other platforms already ready,
But I'm also like, damn bro, like y'all gotta be
suspended for like the for small things, you know, small

(06:50):
things compared to what I've seen some other people do.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
And I'm like, Okay, this probably get bands.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
My boy gets away with the most and the girls
too that he films with the same videos down.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
What is that?

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Yeah, No, I hate only fans, but I also agree
with what you said. Super agree is like one of
my biggest like things with porn or anything, is like,
don't put all your eggs in one basket, and I'm
like constantly preaching that to everyone that does porn around me, like,
don't do it. Sign up for all the other platforms.
It doesn't hurt exactly.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
I've been around for a long time and I've seen
certain things that like become more and more making stream,
especially with the creation of Only Fans and the other outlets,
And it seems like you would assume that some of
the stuff that they don't allow should be allowed, because like,

(07:51):
you know, people are really really into certain I don't
kink chime anymore. I mean wouldn't. I wouldn't ever kink change,
but I don't kink chime. You would. There's some things
I understand should be not on there, but there's a
lot that like no, you know, it's writing liquid onto

(08:13):
somebody I don't think should be banned, you know, right,
like come on now, coming out the other end, I
can't understand that.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Universally banned except for you know, the S book.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
I mean, were into that, like I've seen I've seen
people request stuff from that.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
Well, and some people like loophole around the rule. But
I'm like very protesting about that too, because I'm like,
you know, you're gonna ruin it for everyone else, like
toos is really matter?

Speaker 3 (08:50):
So exactly, I kind of have this thing where I've
screenshotted certain parts of the TOS and highlighted things so
I could send it to them like in my own
o F and be like, look, just so you know,
this is against the term of service. It's not that
I don't want to do it for you.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
I can't. Yeah, that's not allowed to uh huh.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
I'm very like give you all the info even though
you didn't.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
Ask for it exactly exactly, and especially when random people
will come up on of and be like, oh, hey,
are you in this place?

Speaker 3 (09:29):
I want to see you, and I'm just like quick, quick,
copy paste. Here's the cos that's.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Not allowed, buddy.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
That one should be common sense whatever, arguing.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
It's easier to just copy paste. Hey, just so you know,
it's against terms of service.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
A lot of people, like you know, dance at certain locations,
so I can understand them asking that if you are
a dancer and you're not to be a dancer, yes,
but they also understand that like, hey, I can't say
where I'm at yo, h I can't say that I'm
in a Boise Iowa. You know, so stuff like that.

(10:11):
No one lives in Boise, Iowa, Robot, We're just staying
at a location in the world anyway.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
Pretty sure there's strip clubs out there. Like I used
to strip in Nebraska for the past three years, so
like middle of nowhere, next to a truck stop, Nebraska.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
How was it then, Like being next to a truck stop,
would you get a bunch of random people?

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Random? But also like you know, truckers are tired, they
want to a little love in. It's been a while,
so yeah, so like and they got money because they
drive the trucks. So like the whole way there when
I used to drive there is just trucks. So yeah,

(10:58):
there was great money from them and them and then
not even just the truck stop, but like the town
in general. It wasn't even in town. It was like
in the middle of two towns. Like yeah, and so
like you.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Like trip in a you are in a different city.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Yeah, yeah, it's just like nobody's there and uh so yeah,
the strip club was like the thing to do, especially
when the bars would close, and they close early there
so and then it was buyob.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Oh that makes it so much more fun. I love those.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
For some reason, it's like more controlled, like not going
fucking crazy and like doing the most. So yeah, I
don't know how that worked out. But and then full nude,
so because I.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Don't fully understand this rule, but I know that there's
not many places now that are a full.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Nude that allow bar. They have to kind of be
grandfathered in.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
So we were, and we did have a bar, and
that's why it was BYO B. But yeah, we were
grandfathered in. And then eventually they were, like I think
three years into their like no more, We're not no
more nudity. No, it was just the clause because of
the bar. The bar thing.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, I know like of one place in Los Angeles
that still get away with alcohol and scripting.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
I don't like the idea of that, Like people get
too crazy for some reason when they can buy.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
I think it's like I noticed, and this is not
all of them, but a lot of them. If they
serve alcohol, they don't serve alcohol, people don't tip as much.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
No, my well, I mean they yes and no.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
It depends on the culture of the clause.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Again, like I don't I don't like they is like
the majority of the sometimes I've been to I was.
I was like working, I was like doing an event
there and like and if I wasn't there, I was
there to see a friend. Ye. Yeah, So I think
of all the times I've been just like and it
wasn't for that. It was like three times. And you know,

(13:20):
I'm not the biggest like I don't like triples and
I don't because it's like and I'm gonna tell you why.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
So you like you've been to like Golden Corral, right,
like a Golden Corral? Are you can so imagine this.
You go to Golden Corral, you pay your money to
get in, you go to look at the front food
and you say, damn that food the tastiest. Heck do
you go home?

Speaker 4 (13:48):
I don't disagree.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
I definitely see what you mean with that one. But
like the part of it.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Is just for the ambiance. I feel like I like
going to straight Clips for the ambiance.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
A day is. I noticed that too. And because I'm
in Denver now my club, Oh is the economy? So
yeah I'm in Denver. It's not it's not better is bad?
And yeah there's that part where because we don't serve alcohol,
guys are a little less enthusiastic or wanting to tip,

(14:25):
and like it's just doing the most for like two dollars,
which I can't deal with. I'm a stage person. I
don't do lab dances, so like kills my ego a bit.
It's a stock get it.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
I hate that. I like to call it shopping around.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
When you're like walking around trying to find customers to
go and sell, You're just like, can I just go
up and dance, be a cute little ballerina then have
someone come up to me and tell me I'm beautiful.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
It used to be like guys used to time to
get dances, and now I got I do the work.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
That's what it used to be.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Like.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
I feel like people used to actually like enjoy the
dance up on stage. Then they would go up be like, wow,
that was a great dance. I want to see you
dance in the back for me and.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Then get it just not the back and then like
a dollar or so it's like, man, you're working up here.
Exactly a lot of girls also nowadays, sorry, but like
standing on stage being like.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah, yeah, guys come on do things on stage.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
That bothers me. Is like it when it comes to
a lot of them. It's just it's just like you
feel like you want to be more respectful when you're
in a when it's someone completely nude, because like in
like the drunk like the drunk ones, you can like
some people let you lift the underwear, oh put the

(16:01):
money in there whatever, yeah, with permission whatever. But then
like with this one, it's kind of like you don't
want to accidentally do something you're not supposed to do.
Do it. Some do it some little like stick, sip
of finger, but like you're not. You're trying to avoid
to do that too. It's like I'm like, but together,

(16:24):
I'm very prudish when it comes to touching anybody. So
it's even worse at a strip club. I go to
one that they're completely new, because it's like I can't like,
I don't even want to touch you. In some cases, his.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Hands are always like this, I want to give him
a dance, and he keeps his hands right here until
she until she specifically moves them somewhere.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
You know, you're not allowed always like that, yeah allowed.
I actually had a customer like I don't know, a
few weeks ago, and I'm like sitting on his lap
and doing the thing, and he's like, you need to
put more clothes on. It was like football is that
football thing, you know, super Bowl? Okay, And I was

(17:13):
dressed like this. I feel but but like it neither
does my boyfriend. But yeah, I'm like in a under
boob like see through top. And I don't know why.
I mean, I'm naturally a nudist, but like for some

(17:33):
reason I could not stop playing titties and just walking
around shirtless, even which is like fine on a new club,
nude club, but yeah, this guy's like, you need to
put more clothes on because like kind of like act
like a lady type thing. I forget what the exact
phrase was, but I was like, ew, you're not fun,

(17:55):
Like you're.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Right, you're like bitch. I was stripper at his strip club.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
Let me be. But there is that fine line like
he was talking about. It's literally you know that that
rule where if you're touching any of the parts that
your I say, leg in between the cheeks and in
between the legs, the cracks, and yeah, you're this prostitution
right away, so club can get in big trouble. And
also you also I don't trust people.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
And even then there's this like vague rule about the garters.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
And then the height of the heels for certain clubs.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Oh yeah, you're right, certain clubs in like certain states.
I have heard that think I do that I can't.
I can't conform to like individualists, right.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
I've heard technically if a strip club has a.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Bar, that our heels have to have the platform at
least an inch platform. That I don't, right, so we
can be like away from the food in a sense.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
That's weird. I don't know how that was, Like math
is not mathing there, but I know the full explanation.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
But that's how they told it to me. And I
was like, Okay, that's what we gotta do. Let me
go get me some seven inchiels.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Yeah, but I love.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Like one of the three times I've been there that
I was wasn't with anyway. I went there and no
one got naked. The strippers were dancing and became anything
the entire time, or whenever they were wearing whatever. They
were dancing again, and I'm like, and they got to
about like one third in the morning. That's when me
and my uh, because I went with my nephew to

(19:39):
this one. My nephew had left and he was throwing money.
He was throwing a lot of money. Yes, that's how
that's how he is. But like, I'm like, I don't
feel right throwing money if I don't even see an areola.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
I agree, I definitely need I need at least at.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Least at least a literally like give me like a
sight of an area. It's like, yeah, a little like
I don't. I don't even need to see a nipple.
I needed some area, like, give me some are yoda.
I didn't even get yola.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
Want.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Exactly to get that.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Like Sarah nor I love titties. I really love titties
and like more than anything else. But like I didn't
even get titties. This was in l a no no
titty none period.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Now.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Now, granted I know this club is owned by someone
else now and when I went there next, I did
an event there last August. Sarah was there and they knew.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
I knew what when you were talking about.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
And they showed they because I made her script there.
But they, uh, they shold they told nipples. Now. But
I was so pissed off when I was there. I'm like, I.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
Don't blame you. It pisses me off to see it.
And it's become more of a thing with the economy,
which like some of it, I don't disagree. I'm just
an extrass person, so my clothes come off within the
first like half a song, But like it's kind of
like for what for a lot of girls like and

(21:17):
I agree sometimes, especially when there's a lot of people
in the club and nobody's getting up or coming to
stage and they're just luky lam.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
Just like the stage was crowded, they were happy to
throw the money and it was full and like it
was a busy night and no areola I mean, like
a busy that's different.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
That's where I disagree. I'm like, have fun, that's what
you're here for.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
I was so mad.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
I was like, like, my thing is if the club
is empty, if there's no one throwing money on stage,
if there's no one been hanging around stage, sure do
your dance without taking off your.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Clothes or whatever. That's I kind of get it.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
I definitely agree because I'm getting to that point with
the on me lately. But our club actually has a
rule that you have to get naked by the third
song and then that's our last song for the set.
And think it's a little annoying because they're like completely
naked and I've like left my thong around my leg

(22:17):
or something a couple of times, and then I get
reprimanded by like staff, and I'm like, no, it's here
all the time.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Like I think it's like with me. It's like because
like since I don't go to the stage all the time, whatever,
I feel if you're on like if you're in the
circle of the stage that you need to be given money, Yes,
if you're if you're just waiting the back, waiting for
someone and you just happen to glance up, it's not
as as important because you're just like there's only so

(22:55):
many places you can look, you know, but you can't.
You can't like if someone's up there and and like
you see they're dancing and no one's there giving them money,
You're gonna help them out, just like something out there, like, hey,
I appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
I get that because I work hard. I'm a really
big stage performer, so I do get that one. Like,
so what pity tips? And I don't think it's pity though.
Pity tip is still tip, right, Like I still take
it and I'm still happy about it, and like damn straight.
I was working so.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Exactly because like that's my thing is Like I used
to well, when I was dancing, I used to go
in like an hour an hour and a half early
to go in like warm up, just dance on the pole,
you know, just practice some new tricks and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
And then eventually I just started doing that when it.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Was like slow and boring, Yeah, just do my craziest tricks.
Like people are like, who the fuck are you showing
off to? And I'm like, I'm practicing.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
Like I honestly like to stretch on stage in the
beginning of like slow shifts and really anyone in there,
because you can make it aok sex.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
See, I was doing it a little too often. I'd
say that management basically volunteered me to teach all the newbies,
and certain of the girls who had already been there,
who were like talking shit about me behind my back,
I had to teach.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
Them, and I was like, Okay.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
There was one girl that started trying to compete with me.
She kept like, anytime I'd bring in a new pair
of pleasers, she'd bring in two or three. Every time
I'd come in with a new trick, she'd come in
try to do something a little bit extra, and.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
I'm like, oh, I'm not competing.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
No, I'm super competitive, but like that's also why I
aim to make like competition, just like Linked up buddies,
like let's do it. Their clubs are hard for I
only went to one strip club that was like mean
like that, but like I almost don't even know what

(25:10):
you're talking about in a way, because like the last two,
everyone loves each other and it's amazing. That sucks. I
forget that happens.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
But yeah, I love where I go to, and I'm
seeing that if the girl isn't get in love, the
other stripper will come up there and kill them one
and throw some of their money.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Like yeah, even when we are getting the love I have.
It happened a lot too. Girls are awesome at my club.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
I used to be that girl, to be honest with you,
I used to take out like twenty bucks on the
slow nights just to go and tip every girl.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
And then I kind of realized, like, oh, I'm one
of the only ones.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Doing this, Like we're not really being the culture and
community that we're supposed to be.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Like free. I think that was for you somebody, because
I did an. I was working an event and I
had three of my uh people up there dancing, and
one of them came over and took one of my
stacks and started like it took my stack and was thrown.
I'm like, is it my step to throw? You just took?

(26:20):
He took my real stack? You? Was it was that
that you? Or was it that the other girl?

Speaker 2 (26:27):
The other girl?

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Money out his hands thing?

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, because he just had the money I think you had.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
On the table right, had them on the table in
front of me.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, he had walked over there and.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
He just grabbed it and just walked away and started.
I'm like, how do you like? How do you like?
I had three stacks, I had like this set out, like, yeah,
I had it planned that I had, like I had
any roar bands and everything. I'm like, I'm going to
give them all this the money in my like in
the stack, but like I was already throwing money from

(27:03):
a different stack, and you grabbed the other stack, and
I'm like that wasn't supposed called.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
No, that's not It's so cringe when people do that.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
I'm like, no, it's not your money.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
I can barely do it on stage too, but I know,
like I kind of agree with that, Like you put
money on my stage, you're not allowed.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
No, no, no, it's like it's not where you sit at.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
It was like a fucking booth like we at our
own tables.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Where I was sitting at, Like it was like the
under like where you where you wait to throw it.
So I had it like because I didn't want to
have it in my pocket because I had too much
stuff from going on because I was working the event,
and like so I had like X amount set up
for each girl and she like, this is one of
the other girls that I had. She danced first, so
she was the first one up and like so she

(27:55):
saw my me throwing money from the one in my
hand and she just grabbed the other one.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
No, that's show not okay, that's cool.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
It's cool. It's cool because I don't mind it.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
It's a friend.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
I know what she gets and I've known her for
a long, long long damn we get no time, so
it doesn't bother me as much. I just saying I
wasn't ready. Yeah, now I have to go get more
money for the other person. It's like.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
I kind of like to.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Do that though, especially when there's like special performers. For example,
if you only have one hundred bucks to throw, I'll
go in and I'll put like thirty and fifty bucks
aside specifically for whatever special event or whatever, and then
the rest gets thrown at everybody. Yeah, but I kind

(28:47):
of hate that idea where if there's money on the table,
some girls will go in and start throwing.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
It and it's like, that's not your money.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
Like I love when they ask about it though, like
like proposition in their customer and they're like, hey, let's
go tip this girl together, and then like that's different.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
That's different. I know I love doing because two of
my friends I went and go see them script before
they said, let's get money to this girl on the
stage now because nobody was Yeah, so in.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
The club we all cam exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
So I'm gonna gonn. I'm gonna go back a little bit.
You were talking about all your kinks and stuff earlier.
I know you were talking about how much you love,
you know, the spankings and stuff. What all the other
ones do you produce or that you were.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Into identify with. Yeah, so I'm actually in the lifestyle
and both ways swinger and kink. So my favorites are
what I am of course spanking d d LG. It's
like taboo stuff. I like me, like, what's your question

(30:03):
d d.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
L basically what kinks do you perform?

Speaker 4 (30:07):
Yeah? What d D o T That would be one.
It's basically like tabo, like daddy stiff.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Oh okay, okay.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
Yeah baby girl, Okay. I was like, yeah, I'm trying
to make sure. I don't know how it censored. You
guys have to be I never do numbers or anything
like that.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
No way want to say it earlier. When you first
get us, I'm still naked. I'm like, I can blur
out anything like if anybody does, because literally, like when
we first started doing this, a girl literally flashed her
like she didn't intend to, but she gets flashed or
who her entire pussy And I'm like, okay, I wasn't

(30:49):
ready for that, but okay, I mean I can blur that.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
Out camera because absolutely that would I do that accidentally
in public, So I.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Mean it doesn't it doesn't bother me. But like, you
can say what you want. I don't curse, but yeah,
I can say anything you want to say in the world.
I don't care as it's not illegal.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
Yeah, yeah, right, that's how I abide by nods breaking,
I know, like legal thing breaking. So yeah, in that sense.
In that case, I DDLG so like daddy baby girl
a little girl. That's my main thing. And then I
just started switching. So that means going from the bottom

(31:32):
to the top. And uh, I do that as like
a big sister persona like bullying or just maybe sometimes
soft I guess, and that's fun. Start pegging and sissifying.
So there's like another really big core part of me
right now that I've discovered in the past like two years.

(31:57):
And then let's see I said spanking. Oh, I'm a
really big masochist, like huge. I can show you guys
pictures and you be a what the fuck? I don't
know if that's allowed.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
I'll say again, I can blur anything out.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
I'm curious. I want to have these photos.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
And if it's not okay, then you can just blur
it out later.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
I can't blur anything out. I'm an editor, Oh okay.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
I love editing. I do a lot of graphic design
and branding, so or I try to because people are
not so into it. But I'm always trying to push people.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
I'm just an ultimate nerd. But to go, what did
you say, I'm gonna take you. I'm gonna tell you this.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
I am one of the few people when men probably
that do not like being called daddy.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
Yeah, that's totally okay, And.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
It's only it's only because, like I know how old
I am now, and if someone says that, it just
feels weird.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
No, no, those are those are the ones that are daddies.
I only, for the most part date fifty and up.
My youngest right now is forty, turning forty five this year,
and yeah, no, I go fifty and up. Those are daddies.
So just so you know, for me, those are daddies
and not just for me like forty, Yeah, you young,

(33:24):
what are you talking about? I'm like, you're still daddy,
but like us a like stepdad, Rostar.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
You're a little too young for her. You heard. I
don't like nothing that I don't see daddy.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
But I say boppy just because my whole it feels
more natural to say you feel.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
As bad as daddy. Yeah, like because it's the way that.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
I don't know you're saying. There's been since the credit
card processors so like step dad, dad is like the
new thing. I even feel too taboo when I say daddy.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, So like do you do you know, like it
wasn't until like I forget what gear was like during
my time in porn and I join in two thousand
and eight. During my time in porn, they switched to
make sure that you say step.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Before that, they didn't even have to say step yep,
And it's like.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
It's a it came back back. I guess if it
was that long ago, because since you know, credit card processors,
even my kink platforms like clips for a Sale, they're like, nope,
step not even in like my uh graphic design intro
with titles like.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
You get it, you have to you have to say step,
like I think it was helping around like two thousand
you have to say it now, Yeah, that's what joint
it was. It was not required at all.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
Mm hmm yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
And I'm like, if it feels it's like, uh, you know,
it's still like porn in general is a fantasy. If
ye yes, dad, it's like.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah, awkward.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
I know. I did a father's Day scene once and
that was a little that was a little like awkward,
but sunny roleplay at the same time, you know, like
both of us were looking at each other like yeah,
and my friend were like, okay, so we're sisters today.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
He's our daddy, all right, Happy Father's Day, daddy.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
I just can't do the Father's Day when I learned
early on, it feels too like real taboo, like pushing
the limits, and a lot of people didn't have like
a reaction or had like a negative reaction to it
fan base wise, So I'm like, okay, definitely nixing that one.
I don't like it anyways.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
And another thing you said, like mess like I don't
know if you ever took the BDSM test, thinking.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
Yes, I have it on my felt life, but.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
I have three things that are one hundred percent, and
Masachus is one of my one percent.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
Really, So you love receiving paint.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
I love receiving paint.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Yes, oh I love it. I spink the boy, but.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
I just and I just hate because like I I
broke my neck, so I can't do a lot of
this stuff I used to do anymore because of my
of that injury. But like, yeah, like I'm still into it,
I just can't do it as much as I like.
I would want to anymore. Yeah, it was the grady
and rope binding was my other two one hundred.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
What doing doing the rope or receiving rope?

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Like, I'm like, I'm a subiving okay.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Like I just, I just, I just I'm not like God,
you talking about pegging, Like, don't don't touch my anal cavity. No,
don't touch don't touch my booty hole in any capacity.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
I actually love it.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Don't don't touch me with your feet.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
Okay, I get a lot of guys.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
I am. I have a foot phobia.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
You know what.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
My boyfriend has the same thing. He's like, doesn't like
anyone touching it?

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Or look high five to your boyfriend because Jesus Christ, like, like, literally,
does I do photography? I do a lot of stuff.
I do photography too. And it's like when I've taken
her picture before, and like I will literally aim the
camera where I know her feet are at and look
away and take the picture.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
For example, my feet will be up like this and
he'll be like, oh, no, it's that bad.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
It's not just you.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
And then you'll show it to me be like did
I get it?

Speaker 4 (37:47):
Oh my gosh, Wow's.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
What's so bad? It's like I give them the least
amount of editing because like this way you can copy
the edit what I do. I copied. I I edited
the one before the feet, and then I just copy
it through the feet and I hope it looks okay,
so I don't have to look at them.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
I see you're saying, yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
It's more so the damn nubs, the damn toe of
a damn nub of a damn foot.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
Yeah, I have a weird or it's just the nail
on my pinky toes. So yeah, it's more.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
It's more so the barefoot as it like, if you
weren't stockings or uh a sock something, that's something that
I've gotta look at your look at your nubs.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
Yes, were good. I'm obsessed. I was socky is. I
have like knee highs, fluffy ones, sporty lines, everything for outfits,
school girl lies, like everything. They're my favorite. I think
I have a little bit of a sock fetish. I
guess it's a weird explanation of it though.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
But that's what you should do, which completely random. But
do a try on video where you just trying on
all the different socks and stuff.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
I have.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah. I started doing that like recently.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Because I was like, I don't really know how many
of you guys like feet, so I'm gonna just hang out,
show out, show you guys the socks that I have
for some you know. And then people were like, oh
that is you know, start stoking it, jerk off instructions
and I almost like huh yeah, like me sit here

(39:25):
just pulling them off, putting them back on, put some oil,
like all right, let's have fun together.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Wall of socks.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yes, it was cold, so I put out some socks.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
Yes, I'm I'm like it is cold today. I was
in my knee high fluffy socks all day. I actually
there was a producer I worked for, I like New Girl,
and I was trying to prevent give me the socks
he had me wear because I don't know why, but
I'm fixated on them still, like hyper fixated. And then
I accidentally put them and Ryan King's shoes, thinking they

(40:04):
the other guys, and so now no sucks sucks yay. Yeah,
So I guess then also that case too, that reminds
me like I before doing mainstream for the past three
weeks and then once two years ago, I just do
fetish content, so like, yeah, all that stuff super regular

(40:26):
and normal for me. Find that fat foot foot fetish
is like literally the most common fetish to have it
is and also like shameful to people for some reason.
And yeah, it's definitely like the most popular and like
normal one in no, I don't like normal. Yeah, so
I was.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
I told her about the dude because I think earlier
one of the people that I think you the name of,
who was my previous co hope before Sarah took over.
He has an extreme foot and I'm like, like it
was weird too, because like like he hated it, and

(41:07):
I mean I hated it and he loved it. So
it was like the ying yet And that's how the
girl held her vagina because she was trying to be
funny like no, like she was showing like she was
like in like a dress whatever, and she was trying
to say, like, oh, so if I showed my feet
like this, you look away. So I looked away while

(41:29):
he was showing her and she was showing her foot
and what she like, and I looked away immediately. My friend,
he was looking directly at her feet and was kicking
her feet and the thing is it's like when she
went back down to said, I think I just showed
my vagina and I'm like, I don't know, and he said,

(41:49):
you know what, I was too busy to look at
your feet. I didn't notice. And when I then when
I had to go back, I had to go back
and edit it, and yes, her vagina was on full display.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
Funny, I went, goodness, that's so funny. That would be
me by accident. So yes, camera up. Me and my
boyfriend went to like our first date. We went to
like a kink ball where it's like we will pretend
to be kinky and then the real lifestyle people will

(42:22):
come out because that's our only like outlet in Denver.
So we went and I had a foot fetish fan
and he showed up and he just like immediately put
my foot all in his mouth and my boyfriend and
I love foot sucking on me, receiving, and my Boyfriend's
just like do I do I look away or do

(42:45):
like I watch? Like this is almost awkward and brand new.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Here. I'm a voy in all things but feet looking like, yeah,
I love it because like I was like, I'm not
one hundred percent, but I'm highly excecual and so like,
I love to watch whatever contentually and uh, but I

(43:12):
just I can't even look at footsucking.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
It's just I yet.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
It's like even though, like you know, your feet might
be clean whatever, it's kind of like, did you watch that?
What's the last thing you touched? Yeah, touch the floor
before you did that? Did you get out of the
shower and and touch the bathroom floor before you put
a sock on? Did you all? Were you on the
mat before that? Mac, That's how my brain works when

(43:38):
I see footsucking.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
Honestly, my eight brain knows the same thing. I'm like,
but it's on me. Sure, this is your decision, but
I guess to get off like maybe a weird subjects
for you or like slightly uncommon.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
It doesn't. It doesn't bother me. It's only bothering when
when I look at it.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
Yeah, I get that. Well, I have no feet pictures,
but I do want to show you, guys real quick
the other pictures.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Spanking ones.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
Yeah, so, oh girl, what I do this one? Let's
see and some rope stuff. H yeah. So we do
a spanking party like a few annually throughout the year,
and most of them are in Texas and uh yes,

(44:32):
I me and my friends all get together and just
kind of party and spink. But but that's literally all
we do. We don't like have the sexes or like
orgy awesome. But yeah, that's my first night. Let's see
second night and then grand finale third night. Yeah, I

(44:53):
think you guys might have caught a dick on there,
just so you know, I'm.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Gonna blur the entire not for the moment anyway, So
that's it's on the on the other page. But yeah, yes, queen.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Okay, we saw it.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
Oh guys, we saw it all. No, it's very arctic
for me. So that's like my whole basis of masochism,
and it's a very main kink for me, Like I
become a brat a monster to like boyfriends or daddy's
if I'm not getting like pain, so yeah, or sex

(45:37):
without pain isn't like fun to me. I think that's
why I'm becoming a size queen all of a sudden.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
I got that.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
See. I don't like it to the point where it
bruises though.

Speaker 4 (45:52):
Oh no, oh wait, yes I do obviously. I I
didn't understand what you said. Yeah, Okay, A lot of
people don't. My buy is actually extremely hard to bruise.
That's why a lot of them were on my thighs.
My friends have discovered and I have a statist play
partner and he's like, yeah, that's the spot I can

(46:13):
make you yelp in and it's like the only one.
So we cover down there a lot, and my butt
just like it gets touched, but it just doesn't turn
into anything. And I love bruises. They're like badges of
honor or something.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
So what do you think about pussy spanking?

Speaker 4 (46:35):
I I like it, but I hate it. It's very
like I Touch twenty two for me because like paint day,
but also like lots of pain on the pussy. And
I'm like, I will actually have I'll show you guys,
and you can blur those too, because it's actually quite funny.
I'm not going to lie for that.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Like I just looked at.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
Yeah, six makes sense, that's funny. Let's see it all
right here. I'm going to get this, I think, So yeah,
you can wait needs sound?

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Is that a ruler?

Speaker 1 (47:17):
It's a cane?

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Oh, it's a cane. Oh I knows hurt.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
Yeah, that was the first time I had.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Oh my god, that lives hot though if you score
me and everything.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
You want though with you with your legs legs up
and your hands just like handcuffed and just have them
go at it.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
Yes, Insects, I did that for a by production. Oh Insects.
I think that one was hard tied dot com fuck yes.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Because I cannot person suddenly take a lot of pain.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
But I love to watch it. You know, it looks
so hot and then mind you, I think I'm one
of those people that really loves the mones and like
just the sounds. I can tell when it really like
that pain pleasure, when that really hits.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Yeah, but hear those kinds of mones. That's what I'm like, ooh,
stop whatever I'm doing, See what's going on?

Speaker 4 (48:25):
Yes, I get that a lot when we play, and
I like, I prefer to play in like front of
people in party rooms. We have like really big just
common area party rooms where every killain spanking. It's casual,
it's spanking, it's dirty, I'm naked, it's not really dirty.
I just am inappropriate myself. And yeah, so I prefer

(48:47):
to do it in front of everyone because like that happens,
and I don't know, I've never had that in my life,
and I've won an award for spanking being like a
hard bottom. But I love when people are like, oh
my god, thank you for like doing that. I feel
so honored to be able to watch. I love it. Actually,

(49:07):
one of my friends she got me into mainstream right now,
Sona Bella. She watched me get spanked by my who
play partner last week and she didn't really want to
try it yet, which is like totally cool, and I
was like, just watch and she got very like headspacey
and like subspacey just watching and like, of course I

(49:31):
was taking a really hard one too, and she was
just like, oh my god, I'm just so like horny
had speed all the things. And she was like, I've
never experienced that, like watching someone like yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Exactly, That's how I get where.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
I'm just like, oh, okay, okay, damn, I'm a voyeur.
But I like it, especially with partners. I'm like please,
I'm Pollie, so I'm like, yes, please play with other
people and in front of me and then maybe let
me play with them.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
I have to I have to get yelled at, stay
in the room. Sometimes. If I don't, I don't feel
like I deserve like to be in that room people.
I think it's like not where I live at now,
but my old place. It was like it was a
little bit smaller, but like people used to like I
have this one couch that everybody just just want to

(50:27):
have sex one every time they like for no reason,
just like we sitting there, were sitting there, you know,
watching car, like watching Little one Stitch. Then all of
a sudden they over there just having sex and it's like, okay,
well let me let me slowly exit the room. Yes,
Rod starts sit down.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
I'm like I did have one of those moments at
the last party. I think it was just so random
and like right there, but I was like voyar me,
was like do I watch? Like is this okay? Especially
because like you know, nobody really ask consent for it,
but like still hot.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Well, I was always good. I always feel like I
feel because it's I'll be more willing to watch if
it's two women than a girl and guy yea. And
because I'm like I the thing is like I because
like I don't even want like in my personal life,
if I watch porn, I can't watch my friends mainly,
but if I want to watch porn. I don't watch

(51:26):
a guy and a girl because I back my mind
no matter what I'm going to compare, you know, and
it's like I can't make you do that or I
can do better than that, and if like if you
if you get a dread, I'm like, I can't do
you that, honey, girl.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Sorry.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
There's plenty of guys out there that are the same way,
and it's like totally okay, I don't mind those guys
out all. It's a different thing we actually do. We
do many events throughout the weekend at the parties, some educational,
like I've demo bottomed how to like use certain implements.
And we actually did a role play class in November

(52:10):
and that was pretty fun. I got chosen specifically for it.
And but we have an event that is females thanking
males and it's closed, like you have to sign up
for it as a female ahead of time, and then
we closed. We use a ballroom. We rent out all
those rooms too, and like a few floors in the hotel,

(52:34):
so we pile into a ballroom and we close the
doors where we do not allow spectators like other party
guests who are not bottoming as the male and that
shit is crazy because we just line them up and
we have one female head charge and then everyone else
is at stations of their own. And I had females

(52:55):
just like you there, you there, you there, and it's
just like a quick it's like a conveyor belt. Yeah,
factory assembly line is great. It's kind of fun, but yeah,
it's closed because like a lot of those guys, like
they prefer to be quiet about that kink. And also
it took honestly a minute for it to be accepted

(53:17):
like pretty fully in our spanking community and now we
like don't mind it and we have like our really macho,
dominant male friends like spanking boy butts. It's great. I'd
love to see it.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
I think it's because like I'm so like I'm usually
really quiet and like though I'm extremely passive, you just
wouldn't expect that from me to be in certain desire
certain things. And always feels that it's interesting to see
what kinks that any individual is in because of the

(53:52):
fact that because you see them like in general, like
you just like I would it be into that, do
you find out what they're into?

Speaker 4 (54:00):
Like I have a really really bad problem with that
where I have like fifty million kinks at this point
and like pretty pretty like almost core kinks to me,
like I'm U brand of them, and yet I pick
them up from people all the time that I meet
that have different ones, and it's really like seeing their

(54:21):
perspective or like them explaining or doing it, or like
feeling their perspective, Like Jesus just changes my mind and
then I'm like, yes, it's mine too, I get it.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
You would you say, do you like elexcution?

Speaker 4 (54:40):
Oh my god, it's one of my new main kinks.
Actually I don't have my little briefcase with me, but
I bought at the last spanking party in November. We
do a vendors fear so like different kink Let's see,
what's the word toy companies and like spanking implement companies.
We all like just pile around on the ballroom at

(55:01):
stations and it's just shopping. It's bad.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
I went to one and I bought a I still
have it, like I have I have a box of
just paddles and whips and floggers. And that's that's like
because Sarah knows I have boxes I give I give
out like my friends like just full of sex toys.
So if you people visit my house, I'm like, please

(55:26):
take one or two of these. And it's just a
box full of sex toys and linger because I just
it just adds up because I shoot and stuff they
don't get used, just gets thrown in the box. And
like but my personal box, it's just a whole bunch
of paddles and whips and whatever. And like one of
the things I bought from one of the sex like
the Obdiens everything I went to was this paddle that's

(55:48):
made out of a fire hose. Yes, and like it
has good gift and like it doesn't it's not gonna
hurt you as much as a a wooden paddle or
a metal pad or whatever pedal you use. And like
they have enough give that like because that's everybody because

(56:08):
you know, when you're patting somebody, you're lifting up. So
it had the nice give and it won't it won't
bruise at all, but it does still make the booty
vibrate on the vagina or whatever.

Speaker 4 (56:21):
So it's a light thud. Yeah, I've done. My friend
has he works with a lot of kink toy companies
and he's a photographer actually that's my play partner, Dave.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
And uh he.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
Brought in a fire hose strap and yeah, I did
like pictures with it. I obviously like demo in it,
and yeah, you're right, that is like definitely one of
those things I don't like paddles, Yes, I do kind of, but.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Also no, I'm a frat I'm a frat boy too.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
So m yeah, prap paddle made for me right now
from a big company as a present from my play partner.
I'm so excited because I changed my sets up to
be like sorority room.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Now, oh that's awesome. Is the paddle going to have
the like indent where it gives them the indent of
their yeah, your fraternity.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Butts?

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (57:27):
Letters, Yes, I actually made one up and like research
the letters and it's dirty.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Yeah. Only the all thing you got to make sure
it is if you put if you put it on
in a porn video, it has to be an organization
that does not exist, otherwise they.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
Will try to sell definitely. But yeah, okay, back to
electroccution because it's like one of my favorites. Uh So
this big king company went and I'm like so hard
trying to figure out where remember the name because it's
not kink dot com obviously, but they went and they

(58:05):
saw more of like an array of kink stuff rather
than just spanking. And so this lady, their little vendor
lady was like, I don't remember how it started, but
she asked me something about the Violet one. Oh, I know,
I have the Dazapper. It's like a little mini taze
and it's long and like yep, and it makes like

(58:26):
it it looks scarier and sounds scarier than it is.
It's just like a little quick tap and it makes
like a light burst. It's fine. So and I always
break them for some reason, but this place has like
lifetime warranty, so you just go to them and you

(58:47):
replace it, and like they replace it for you right there.
It's like super awesome. So yeah, started with that. It's
like I think my thing's broken. She's like, bring it
down here, and let's test it wasn't broken. I'm just
too stubby to know how to use it the right way.
But then she was like, oh, you like electric play,

(59:08):
do you like uh? Do you like this? And she
pulled out an ultra Violet one and like, I'm sorry, sorry,
but that she is is weak to me. I don't
want to fuck with them at all, like at all.
I think one of them twenty four seven obviously, but
like love people that are into them, super cool, not
king shaming. It's not for me, And huh, maybe I

(59:32):
a should.

Speaker 5 (59:32):
Try that one.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Yeah, I'm pretty sensitive, so like the electric one, like
I my body can't handle that.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
So maybe like one step below and.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
It dials, Yeah, if you're in LA. When I'm in La,
I'll like make sure to bring it. I'm obsessed with
like using it and topping people too, so but like, yeah,
I do all the things honestly, but uh yeah, I
was like, no, thank you, and she was like wait
a second though, do you know about the conductor? Like

(01:00:07):
what is this conductor thing? And she's wearing it, so
she's like it's like a little box with a flip
and you like, no, I'm sorry, hook it in your
like waistband or something. The point is the backside has
to be touching your bare skin. And then you turn
it on and you plug in the ultraviolet wand and

(01:00:30):
you are the ultra violet wand basically like you are
being conductor and all you have to do is just
touch people and you shock them. So yeah, I bought it.
I like, yeah, I was taking my money. It's amazing.
It's my favorite. And then I also learned someone happened

(01:00:52):
to be an electro player at the party, which is
like so rare, and he was like do you know this?
And he brings out what is it called my lar floggers,
so it looks like bike streamers like kids, and so
he turns on the conductor for him and also like
when you're touching tools, you yeah, those work too, as

(01:01:14):
long as they're metal contact. And so he was using
it and it was like like everywhere. I even have
videos where you can hear the like crackling as he's
like shaking it over me. And I found out I
don't know how this works because this is not this
isn't supposed to be a thing. But my nipples, my

(01:01:35):
nipple rings were very conductive. When he was like, ak, yeah,
it's like not supposed to be a thing. Like you
go through metal detectors, even like MRI machines nowadays, you
don't come out like what.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
I think it's probably the type of metal most likely.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
But by random ones, so that could be it. But
it was amazing. So I have a little briefcase and
I carried it around and everybody's like, little little girl,
what are you doing? Like why do you have a
big girl briefcase? And like big girl stuff?

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
You like, I just gotta find a daddy that's strong
enough to.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Use it on me.

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
Yes, I am a good girls.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
So quick question. Okay, so this is out there, so
uh and porn actual porn life. So who are your
top five people that you want to work with? It
could be male, female, ts, whatever they.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
Okay, let's do it. I'm not gonna lie. I think
a lot of them are mostly females and there's a
very specific reason to it. So let me. Let me
pull up my list because I have one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
A girl that knows what she wants.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
I am a freak. I like organization, I hyper fixate
and like, yeah, I know what I want. Let's see
m it's all the marks. Okay. So my top is
and she actually just messaged me the other day after
like slowly commenting on my stuff and I'm seen and

(01:03:23):
she has me to clap.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
So that is.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
Giadurza. We Next in line is Sona and I made
that real life. She's also from Denver, and we knew
each other for a minute, but.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
I love her. She's very spicy. She's like my little
Mexican cousin because we're a lot alike and we honestly
look a bit alike too. But yeah, we never linked
up in Denver, and we linked up now like this
is the first time we're meeting as of three weeks ago.
And then we went home together last week for like
the weekend because obviously I'm here. I went to drop

(01:04:10):
her off on the way home from the airport. She
is literally three minutes down the road from me. So
number two and then number three is Junifer Wren and
wants see number four. Gosh so excited that I'm like

(01:04:35):
forgetting the names right now, let's see somebody somebody else.
Basically girls that oh I love Tifa Quinn right is
that her last name? Sorry if I mix it up?

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
What was that?

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
Four? I know there's a fifth on there the brain
blank ADHD. But the main theme is that they all
do like dtology and they very much embrace it. And
it's in my opinion, ben since freaking COVID, that girls
have done that like so many of my DDLG friends

(01:05:11):
like they dipped out of the entire kink and especially
filming it. So I think Gia was like the first
one I noticed, and she's like, it's just like my
bedroom pretty much, same of like extraniess at least and
very little girls. Yeah, she embraced it. I love that shit,

(01:05:32):
Tifa Quinn, all of them, like they all do. So
Sona is getting more into it too, because like you
don't have a choice when you're around me. Sorry, I'm sorry.
I make members everywhere like she's a cousin.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
Now I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
I have so many like porn siblings is what i'd
call them.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
Yeah, I love that those are my play partners, Like yeah,
I named them by family members and that's how like
their special term is to me. But yeah, and not real,
not into the actual thing. I feel like people always
need to clarify that. So yes, no, it's like we

(01:06:14):
said earlier, like he said, it's a fantasy. Porn is
just it's supposed to be a fantasy, So there it is.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
People don't understand that either, they say, oh, they do
you think like porn your whole persona, even even though
y'all come in in different scenes pretending to be different humans.
Like in one scene this parts be your be your,
be your stepdad, and then the very next day they
are your yoga instructor, instructor. It's like you don't understand,

(01:06:46):
Like they're like this, we're we're acting, we're actors.

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
Onto a lot of improv and.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
You know, and.

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
Yeah, actually that's a good point too, because I almost forget.
So I used to act when I was like very
very little and not very I guess, like pre thing.
And yeah, I'd go into New York City. I lived
on Long Island and I'd go into New York City.
I was like every day, pulled out of school early

(01:07:18):
and audition audition, audition callbacks. Barbie was my first commercial.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Every awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
And then like they made me the main Barbie girl
and that's not how they casted it, like they casted
somebody else. And they were like smile so and people
are always like, why are you smiling so much? I
don't know, I like it, and oh, smile like you
come quote yeah, and I love that. Like a lot

(01:07:50):
of people honestly, when they see me just randomly walking
around smiling for no reason, thank you for making my day.
I want to smile now. You're not allowed to be
grumpy around me, Like literally, you can't.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
I get that smiles are contagious.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
Yeah I heard that at the last party, but like
our party organizer and it was she's my friend too,
But I was just like, that's like one of my
favorite smile comments I've ever gotten, because like, I'm very
pro mental health. I want to go back to school
to be a sex therapist, and yeah, I love that shit.

(01:08:29):
Please do smile from seeing me smile? Yay mental health.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
I've noticed that even when I'm editing some like photos
or videos where I'm smiling, I catch myself struck to
smile to a chest.

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
I like I have to work out of it a
teeny bit more. But like when I'm doing dialogue, there's
like this like half or like quarter smile and I'm
like stopped out. I'm getting a lot better at it
now that I'm doing mainstream though, like just switched all
of a sudden.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Right, You're like, I'm supposed to be serious.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
I get it now.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
I love that because I I'm not saying that I'm
not a serious person, but I like to go on
set and have fun.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
So when they have certain parts where I'm where I
have to be serious.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
I have to kind of like laugh things off first,
and then I'll be like, all right, guys for five minutes,
I'm gonna be serious.

Speaker 4 (01:09:31):
No one makes un Yes, I had to do that today.
I was taking new photos. Yeah I told you guys that, yeah,
you for like one or two of them. He's like, okay,
serious face, and I'm like, all right, don't look at
me first, acond work it out. And then like when
I did la and he knows this. It's so hard

(01:09:51):
to get me to stop being bulthy, like so hard
and I didn't get it. I'm like, wait, guys, is
this why I never land like civilian in job interviews
because I'm just like too bubbly because they wanted me
to be like attitude and like a bitch. You literally
described a bitch and I was like no, it's so
everyone was. We were all laughing and like having fun

(01:10:11):
with ship me.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
Out of photographer. There are some people who I want
to throw a brick at because they will not start
stopping smiling, and I'm like, serious, they gotta you gotta
give me because people don't realize, like even though you
have the most beautiful smile in the world, that that

(01:10:34):
fear serious face looks so damn good.

Speaker 4 (01:10:39):
Yes, I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
I like this person right here. That's why I started
pointing this, like I don't know yours, but this human Ah, I.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
Cannot stop smiling on my photos.

Speaker 4 (01:10:52):
I swear a lot of a lot of mine could
be like that, especially because like it's a part of
my brand. But I do like facials, and like when
I have a really comfy photographer, like my play partner
is just like facial facial facial, not so many smiling,
and I do like work with a lot of girls
who also do the same thing, so it's very like

(01:11:14):
almost common.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
Finally, a serious face out of me, Yes, I love it,
like you, you don't get serious faces out of me
that often, Like we really gotta.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
For me too, because mind you, Right after that, I started.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
Laughing, like I have so much fun on set that
I'm just like, okay, let's work now, and like make
you guys laugh exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
I'll do one serious pose and then I'll turn your
out of me.

Speaker 4 (01:11:48):
So I literally just filmed a behind the scenes video
of that doing my casting pictures of Simon. It's like,
I know I'm annoying. I feel like you tried like
straight face and you did a good job at it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
But exactly you're just like, yeah, I just did a
hedgehot for someone last week, and they see the difference,
and it's not like it's not because like I was like,
I don't like their smile. Yeah, but it's like I
show us that the difference that they see, they said, oh,

(01:12:21):
I see it, Like yeah, that's it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:27):
It doesn't even have to be like you know, a
super sultry people to go mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:12:33):
I agree. I have a lot of pictures with like
Cole models like that, but I still love their smiles.
But like, yeah, and you can do other ones than
like sultry sexy ones like you know, shocked. I'm trying
to like learn that one more.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
I think when it comes to taking pictures of models,
you're not smiling, you look more vulnerable and sensual than.

Speaker 4 (01:12:58):
If you are interesting. I like the innocent route.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
Me too. I was like, looking like that innocent girl
next door. Yeah, I've done it, like in the very
I've shown up on set and if I've heard them
kind of talk to each other like are you sure
she can do it?

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
She seems kind of shy, like she's not really talking
to people, and I'm just there like mine in my business,
getting my makeup done, just being quiet, and then all
of a sudden, like they're like, okay, time to strip,
let's do these pretty girls, let's get the scene done.
And I'm like, okay, let's do this, oh boppy, this,
this and that, and they're like, oh, she can do it,

(01:13:45):
like she just plays that innocent roll a little too well,
and I'm like, really, it's a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
But like I don't believe anybody anymore. I've been too
decent to time by too many people same and.

Speaker 4 (01:14:00):
I can read people's kinks like pretty pretty quickly or
make them come out of you and still the beans.
So like, yeah, no one's innocent. I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
I'm absolutely a bratty sub yeah, I've got I get
now defined as a brat sometimes for reasons I don't
agree with, Like I've had disciplinarian as like my daddy,
and now I didn't know disciplinarians because like you get disciplined.

Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
Or every little thing like I did put the remote
back or something, or a plate in the dishwasher and
it's spanking. And then my specific partner is a sadist
ish and I guess you could like define him as
a sadist. And yeah, he goes hard. He's also like
one of the biggest speaking producers because he goes hard

(01:14:49):
and so like this is normal for us, but like
I don't want it all the time. I can take
nice spankings too, So yeah, that's where I turn into
a we're rapped apparently, what was.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
Your bread on your BDSM? Do you remember?

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
M No, but you know it's right here. Literally, that's
a good question because Okay, my BDSM test was like
eight years ago when I first started.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
Oh I do mine. I update mine every year, and
for y'all out there who's wondering, today is March fourteenth,
and the last time I did mine was March twenty
first of last year. So I'm gonna do we do
this in seven days. I like that, Like yeah, because
you had to keep it updated because sometimes you might
not be as into something in the order you get

(01:15:39):
and you might get more like yeah, you know, and
like my BRAT is eighty three percent.

Speaker 4 (01:15:43):
So mine is one hundred apparently.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
And you're and you're and you're not a bread.

Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
I can be bright fighting my spinkings, like you know,
my boyfriend slash Daddy right now is having a big
brat control home with me and trying to like work
with my play partner right now to like figure out
ways because he's not he's not a spanko or too
much of a kinster, but he's also not vanilla. I

(01:16:11):
need an im. But yeah, that's I guess that counts
as me being a brat, but like, I don't think
I should be totally defined by a brat and being
independent and like standing up for yourself. I know what
I want and I know what I don't want, so
like I'm not afraid to speak on it, like Squeaky

(01:16:32):
Wheel gets the grease, so right, Yeah, and my.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Thing is because my body is sensitive.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
Mind you, I will still act a brat, but I'll
just kind of essentially tell my partner like what level
of pain I want that day without specifically saying, oh yeah,
go hard, you know, I just kind of at this
point we kind of just those little cue you know,
I'll be a brat, but not too much of a

(01:17:03):
brat where I'm like, okay, spank.

Speaker 4 (01:17:05):
Me, but not too high. Yeah yeah, yep. That was
like basically being with my disciplinarian, except he did not
like that. I was like, now I get it. Funny.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
I love being a brat, though sometimes I'll act like
a cat, you know, if I'm not getting attention, and
I'll sit on the couch and I'll start like dropping things,
just being like drop that.

Speaker 4 (01:17:33):
Oh my god, I'm stealing that. My dad so annoyed
with me.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
Exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:17:39):
Honestly, you will.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
Get us spanking if you drop enough things.

Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
Yes, that's so funny. Yeah. I think in the past
two years really since starting to switch, because I do
like fetish sessions or before mainstream now and yeah, it's
so many subs asking me to top and I kept saying,
oh no, I don't like it. And then it was
like throwing away money at a certain point, so it

(01:18:04):
was like fine. And after that, especially in the past year,
I've like really come into the brat role, to be honest,
and then I think about it and like it's fun.
Like I run around the parties and just like brat
people and it's great, Like we have a little team
of brats. We have a brat party where like we

(01:18:28):
broke into mom and Dad's liquor cabinet. Like one of
the girls is hosting it and they went out on
a date night and then eventually they come home and
catch us and then it's like two or three tops
that do it and then they just spank everyone in
its madness because we're like no, no, and then they're

(01:18:48):
like you're got so yeah, that's are fun.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
Finally, to me, has anyone said you're grounded as they've
been spanking someone?

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
Yes, Oh I love that, especially that event specifically for
role playing. We also have a Schoolgirl event where we
have classes, periods, teachers, assistant teachers, principal, dean, and there's
a third assistant principle. So yeah, it's like that one
is super. It isn't serious, but like we really like

(01:19:22):
role play into it, and everybody's got thrown thing like
I'm a fucking bracken class. I'm gonna pop my gum
behind your back and I don't know, get other people
into trouble and then they'll just pull you either pull
you aside, do it at your desk, stop the class,
keep the class going, send the ta, Like there's so
many varieties to get punished.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Yeah, I want to go to that one.

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
Yeah, I'm always looking for new friends to go with.
So just saying you just please.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
I love role play.

Speaker 4 (01:19:54):
I love role play. Yeah, so much fun it is.
And you know, we also have people that like don't
do role play, I mean not all the time. When
me and my partners play were I mean it's kind
of natural, but like not a specific like I'm gonna
be a schoolgirl. That's why we like have those too,
because people not like, you know, to spank you, and

(01:20:15):
that's like different where it's not for any reason. You
got fun spankings. You can get lights, we have like
therapeutic like massage like spankings. Everybody's got a special like
specialty that they are very skilled in. So yeah, I
love it. It's fun.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
What scenes do you have coming up that that you
can talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:20:42):
The coming I don't know if I can talk about it,
but I just got one literally hours.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
No, so don't say once you get got which ones
you already sat, well, just that you can talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:20:54):
The new one is like. So the ones that I
have gotten are MVG. I actually had MVG two years ago.
That was my only one and it didn't go good.
I was not great in it. It was my first
time trying to be really sexy and like also sexy.
So this time he let me be like bubbly and

(01:21:17):
he was in love with me. I love Anthony and
he had was a great time. He was just like
cheering behind the camera the whole time, and I was like,
that's awesome, and I fixed it. It was very like redemption. Yes,
I can't believe they wanted me back so but it
was probably because I did Jack slay her for my

(01:21:39):
very friend, so yes, MVG and then they flew me
right out here right after and I did Ellie New Girl,
and then an extra Freutine skeet and.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
And then.

Speaker 4 (01:21:54):
Oh Kelly Madison so teen of Sheldy and that was
That was one of my favorite. Honestly, I can't even
pick a favorite out of these, but I have a
feeling my favorite is on like two days I'm excited
for you, a big one, and I'm like, can I
talk about it? I'm just gonna not in case I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:22:13):
Yeah, don't, don't talk about it because if we get
postponed like this, this isn't coming out for a few weeks.
But just in case it get postponed or lets god
forbid you know it doesn't you know cross before mm hmmm,
very mindful.

Speaker 4 (01:22:28):
Yeah, sometimes better promotion that way too, I think, especially
being new, like I don't want to like I don't know,
I don't have any trouble, yes, that, and I want
my things to be a surprise right now, like oh
my god, Wow, we're shocked by this girl hopefully maybe
so yeah, yeah, it's great. I guess number five is

(01:22:49):
coming up three weeks. I hope that's a good sign.
It feels like it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
So we're about it. We're not of time. So where
can everybody find you? Support you? Than?

Speaker 5 (01:23:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:23:05):
So I also spoil you back if you spoil me,
just saying it was like Money's and our presence on
Amazon or thrown, but like make it really easy and
it's just little Kiki Cali. Cali is with AC and
that's like literally my user name for everywhere. There is
an extra I for Instagram because like I got deleted

(01:23:27):
your one time and they won't let me have my
name back apparently. But yeah, little Kiki Cali on like
everything sweets.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
Yeah, hello's where can I find you? Miss Sarah Lis You.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Guys can find me on I am Sarah LEAs dot com.
All of my links and my social media's will be
on there.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
We are the burbank mythfits on Instagram, Burwan Myfits on Facebook, Twitter,
and Blue Sky. I am r A w st A
r R on Blue Sky Instagram and on the X.
I still say Twitter on the X And uh, miss Kiki,

(01:24:06):
thank you for coming in. You are you are fun
like honored if I to uh to me meet you
like whatever, and I wish you best so many best
things and uh all your future things that you do.

Speaker 4 (01:24:21):
Yeah, thank you. I appreciate you guys. This is super fun.
I like to talk.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
So we'll see you all next week. So be well,
stay blessed, and stay completely amazing everybody you too,