The Exotic Effect w/ Curly Rican

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is roster. It's the misfit effect. And of course
I'm doing with my wonderful, awesome, spectacular, sometimes very patient
co host, lovely Missirah les.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
We sometimes actually, you know what, We'll skip that because
you know, I'm not that not that impatient or patient
as it goes. But I have been patiently, super patiently
waiting for today's guest. She is a fellow Latina, and
oh my god, I was there not for her first scene,

(00:35):
but I was there for one of her first girl
girl scenes and ooh, barb me, oh you the amazing
curly reacon has only just begun.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yeah, thank you, thank you for that amazing entrance.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Not only that, I appreciate holding to such standard and
giving me the opportunity to be one of the people
that I started literally working with. It was one of
my literally first girl girls scenes ever. I was really nervous,
really unexperienced. I learned a lot from sensuality, camera, performance,

(01:12):
and so much. And you were so open and so
welcoming to that. And that's something that I wish a
lot of other females will instill in this community.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
So we can grow.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
And just if I am here is because of people
like you guys that I learned from and gave me
the chance to do so.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
Definitely vibe is the Latina next door, and I feel that's.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Kind of the vibe that you go with as well,
you know, like we can be kinky and freaky and
all this stuff, but at the end of the day,
we are that just sexy, normal right next door.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Right Absolutely, we have definite commonalities and general trace that
it doesn't matter where you're Latina from, whether you're you know,
Columbian or your Puerto Rican Venezuelan. We all have our
little you know, knickknacks that are exactly across the board,
and we project that sensuality, but also, hey, it could

(02:10):
be your neighbor, you.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
That's also one of the projects I do want to
bring up is basic scenarios of Latinas. That's a project
I want to work out later on, uh maybe later
on this summer that I script out Latina basic scenes
and play on that and bring new talent, especially that
Latina talent that sometimes is underlooked exactly.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
See.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
One of the things I had in mind was basically
where it kind of starts like a cooking show, you know,
making some tackles just that traditional vibe.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, you know, yeah, just let onto something else. I
love it. I love it. It's perfect.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
And you know what people do forget that, Yes, we
are normal people and men love and we all enjoyed
to see people in their normal day to day and
that can also be sensual. Right, So we get a
lot of like, oh, they're not traditional and this and that.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Now I'm still traditional.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
I still cook and clean, but I can do it
in a sexy way to teach you that, hey, your
next door your wife can.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Still be sexy while cooking and cleaning exactly.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
That's what I love to show off, you know, Like
there is other performers that will embody that like party
girl vibe and stuff like that, but we are not
party girls. We are the Latinas.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Next very normal, right, yes, and that's okay. What works
for everyone works differently. I definitely do not say that
I love thought you're open to expand on that mentality,
right because I am very big on everyone's and it's
just different and what necessarily doesn't work for it works
for me, right, And we kind of like to play
along that we are protecting a lifestyle and we are

(04:01):
sex icons pretty much, right, So people look up to us,
and also people want to transmit to what is accessible
to them sometimes. So let's say that my audience is
not necessarily party audience. Maybe it's a truck driver that
he has a normal wife by home, you know what
I mean, and you know he'said nothing that's say though,
So I cater to that as well, because they want

(04:22):
to see normal people doing normal stuff, not always thinking
out with a party girl or find themselves in those scenarios.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
So definitely it's great to touch on those more normal
scenarios and kind of say, hey, we're pretty much the same.
If I can do it, you can do it, you.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Know, absolutely, And then going to the topic of not
normal scenarios. Yeah, did I see you go to a
concert and have like a sign or something that it
was like follow me on OnlyFans.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Oh my goodness, Oh my god. I just saw that,
and I was hoping someone somewhere saw that.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
That was probably like a year ago, right, so you
know there's like city carnivals and festivals and all that.
So you know, I advertised myself alone, right, And this
idea I actually got it from Kusuming watching her put
like a big sign.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
I think it was an exotica. She was out with
a big sign.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
It was like a truck and I'm like, maybe it
can't afford to do that just yet, but I can
reach people some other way. So this was a festival
going on in the city of Maya West.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Everyone was going there. There was rappers and stuff.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
And I went with my sign that my friends helped
me made and it said free ass labs and then
it was free ass.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Labs and on the back it had my only friends.
So I was working around the festival like yeah, yeah,
free assets.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
I know how people are drunk and they trying to
have fun and all that, so yeah, you're definitely drawing
attention to yourself while on the back saying, hey you
liked it, look at more.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
It's marketing yourself. It doesn't have to be that expensive,
you know what I mean. It's just having the idea,
having the mindset, having a group and just just wanting
to go out there and do it.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Absolutely and it's it's pretty inspiring to see you do
that at it. Basically it was eighteen plus community style
event and that sounds amazing.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Yeah, And it was so multi generational as well that
I'm not gonna lie. I was kind of skeptical and
nervous about how I was gonna be, you know, received,
because it was like a lot of families. But I'm like,
mind you who has their family at midnight at these events?
So some wives came up pulling their husbands who were shy,
slapper slapper, So it turned into the whole thing, you

(06:35):
know what I mean. So it was family, it was friends,
it was it was just it was wholesome, you know
what I mean. And it's just expanding in the community
in a more more less threatening way, you know, making
it fun.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
See I I love stuff like that. I personally don't
have the boss to do that. Just yeah, I saw
it and I was like, oh baby, I want to
make a sign, right, a T shirt something, But I.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
Was like, it's so hard aside from that materio another
scenario and this is a trial error and I will
learn from this, right, So you know, they sometimes cuss
words not and are not for everyone in shirts.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
So my catch phrase when I do my scenes is
can I cuss? I'm not sure?

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Okay, Curly you can. You can say whatever cuss words,
just don't say a slur. But you said whatever.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Cuss words no never, I don't I don't.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Care, but you can say every cuss word.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
And word never never, so I say in my videos. Right,
So that's a great shirt. So I was like, the
Hispanic community is gonna love this. I made my first shirt.
I went to the Puerto Rican Vaporade in New.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
York and I was more main mugged than ever in
my whole fucking life. Yeah, so that one was a
tilent error. That one didn't work.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
So I understand why it's a bold move because it's
definitely try on error depending on the environment you are too.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
So differently, I've been trying different.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Explosions for us as a culture.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, it's like.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
I only know, I only know when on one cuss
word in Spanish. So yeah, the one that turns with
the p so.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
With you and a tea.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, that one that one I know.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Try and then dot dot dot damelo.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Or I.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Kind of just abbreviate it like that. Yeah, maybe that
my that I'm trying to quit a player words.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
But it was like you say that one of one
was definitely one of the embarrassing ones.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
I am not gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
And the next one I'm trying to do is like,
have you guys watched in practical Jokesters? Yeah, so I'm
trying to do in practical okserch in Puerto Rico, Okay, in.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
A more sexy way, more organic way.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
So yeah, And because I'm doing stand up, I have
a very good, solid group of comedians that we would
be willing to.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Do those kids. So I'm hoping that one.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
Also, Let's see if it brings attention, you know, playing
to the masses, that would be awesome.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
See if it's a comedy show, I would fly over
and see you.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
You have to love to watch that line. You have to.
I'm practicing.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
I went to a competition actually, and it was only
my third stand up ever and I was finalists, my
third stand up ever. So definitely and a couple of months,
you guys should definitely come over.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
I will definitely have to show.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
A triple X comedian.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Okay, right, that's fun, It's fun, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah. So you have a question. I do know that
you know, signed with an agency, So what is it
like being a free agent.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
It's definitely challenging because you want to want to very
be very detailed, very you don't want to be thorough
do your research with the companies that you want to
work for, because you're.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Not setting yourself just for the present.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
And for them now, but also for the future, right,
Like the Internet stays forever, right, so you don't want
to build a reputation that later on it's kind of
hard to back back from. And you want to make
sure that you market yourself. And I would say burn
feed people. And not everyone's gonna agree to my to
that mindset, but this is the way I see it,

(10:41):
and maybe new content creators on the rise head kind
of you know, have this similarity or help themselves with this.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Right.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
So I thought, when I came in, if I do
every category all at once, what what are people going
to see later on on the line?

Speaker 3 (10:56):
How long am I going.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
To be able to extend my my you know, career
until I'm not able to do anything else, until I
have to do very bizarre things right, and not only that,
but right, but not only that, that's the reality of
But then I would have to accommodate my rates to
kind of you know, wiggle around it because of what
I've already done, you know, and it's so watered down,
so that's the way I see it. So it gets

(11:19):
kind of hard to market yourself in that way. Also
because I'm not represented to navigate and know who will
will be those companies that will give you the opportunity
in a good lighting, because I've had bad experiences that
I've had to come back from. It's kind of really hard.
You don't want to shoot with just everyone. You want
to shoot with reputable people. You know, people that are

(11:42):
good performers that you're paying for the quality of the
content you're traveling in the expenses of the trade or whatever.
You know, arrange when you come to terms is equally beneficial,
not just in press, in terms of what in future terms.
And I sometimes think not everyone thinks of it that way.
It's more of a like cloud start struck moment mentality,

(12:05):
which that's why I do everything more slow than.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Everyone else, if that makes sense. Yeah, But but it
does become challenging to the point that now you know
that I want to expand, it's.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Like, Okay, everyone's kind of booked, or maybe not everyone
sees it in that way. They see it more of
the Okay, she didn't want to work with me, then okay,
why should she work with me now. Well, it's because
we are working each other up in different ways that
now we can see each other halfway. Now it's mentally
mutually beneficial. It wasn't then, and it wasn't personal. But
not everyone in the industry sees that. And I think

(12:38):
it's a very not emotionally mature mindset that if you
don't have an agent, it's kind of hard to push
through yourself because it's like, now I'm building.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
One on one with you, and I have to get someone.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Else to help me deal with something that we could
do on our own. You know, it's more of a
sense of community that we're trying to build. Know, if
I explain myself correct that you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, No, I get it. I absolutely get it, because
I will say that I have been a free agent
before and I'm currently in process of becoming a free
agent again. And I feel like that is definitely the
scary part is the company's taking you seriously, right, because
I feel like that is one of the things is

(13:24):
if they see you on an agency website, they're like,
all right, cool, let's her right, But if they see
oh fucking independently send me an email to hear a
lot of people will be like, one, is this the
real her? Let me go and do the research and
all that, and two it's like, it's she taking this seriously.

(13:45):
I don't have an agent. I feel like, especially in
the first year, right companies will be like, ooh, I
don't know if she's actually come through.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
To work with right.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
And also there comes the compensation rate, the things that
people will be willing to do in the extent that
they'll be comfortable doing things just to get a shoot.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
You know.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Sometimes I feel like not seeing this happens a lot,
but some people pay people not to hire people.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
That are exactly and I want to say it like that,
but it's so unfortunate, and I've seen it happen, and
no one has to tell me directly. But when I
come to different sets of work with different people and
I hear what's being said. When you don't have representation,
a lot of times people go with word to mouth,

(14:37):
and not necessarily the word to mouth experience that you've
had is the real experience of that performer one it
speaks to a dicture. Experiences is more a perception, and
it's so biased, you know, and that makes it just
much more harder because sometimes you're not even giving me
the opportunity to come out and reach out to you

(14:57):
without an agent, just because you've heard something or you
think something of me.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
And you're not giving me the chance.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
And that is one of the difficulties I've come across,
you know, because I've heard a lot of things about me,
you know, good, bad, you know, and only few people
that have worked with me know my performance, such as yourself,
you know, and the people close to me.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
But if people don't give themselves that chance, how am
I going to progress? Right?

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
It's such to because like and I've said this before
as someone who has has who has looked at multiple
agencies websites, and sometimes people are just sitting there doing nothing.
It's like, Okay, I'm signed, but like I've been signed
with blah blah for like a year and I've gotten

(15:45):
two bookings from them. Yeah, I have all these from
someone else. It's like, so why am I pain.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
Signed to you or sign And that's a concern I
have because right, maybe I'm a little bit unexperienced in this,
but one of the fears that I've encountered, or the
perception that I've seen is that. Okay, maybe I don't.
I'm not in the same text brackets other performers that
get more shoots or that do other things in order
to get a certain streamcome of like in line stream.

(16:14):
I'm not saying streamline of income.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Right.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
So if I were, let's say, to sign with an
agency as of right now, the percentage that they will
be taking in certain accommodations that they will be making
me take are not going to be necessarily favorable for me,
just kind of like how you're saying. And some people
kind of just do that just to get across from that,
and that takes a total mental health that takes a

(16:39):
toll on other things, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
And that's one of the reasons I haven't been signed.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
But now that I want to try to see which
are the ways I can market myself independently or with
an agency, It's like, Okay, at my tenureship, with my performance,
how people are looking at me, what can I negotiate
at this point being reasonable both with the agency, with
my limitations, with my financial stability, and also what I'm
able to offer and.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Accept because a lot of girls just accept what they can.
I've heard horror stories.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yes, absolutely, I will admit I've gotten requests to film
certain kinds of scenes that I've literally told them. I'm like,
I am not broken after.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
That exactly morally.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
You know, look, I may not have money in my
bank accounts today, but are paid right, thank you. I'm
not accepting that one, you know, where it's like, I'm sorry,
I'm not desperate enough for that. I appreciate me up
for it, but that's not my kind of scene.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
So luckily they they've been respectful about that. But sometimes
you have to kind of set back and think, how
do I tell them exactly?

Speaker 1 (17:53):
And they didn't respect your bonders and I'm.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
So new guy, I wouldn't know how to navigate that,
you know. I mean that's one of the reasons that
I I've got to help myself backed up to be
taking advantage on it in some ways.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
You know, honestly, I feel like you're not telling I
mean people with I know people have been in for years.
We still we're still allowed. We will take advantage of
them because they are afraid to go independent and or
they feel that they can be escapegoat to certain people because.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
And and that is the thing. And I guess I
can elaborate a little bit on this. Now there's a
company that that's no longer, this doesn't exist anymore, that
had such a bad reputation that got me in some
trouble and said and made it a scandal, right, And
I'm not gonna say that. I did take my accountability

(18:50):
at that time, and I was really new both if
your producer in a scene and your company, you have
to take accountability as well. And I was used as
an escapegoat and that was without an agency. And that
company is no longer working, thank god, because all the
allegations that added up. Right, But if it weren't for
all the allegations that added up, they would still be

(19:11):
working and I would still be looked at. That's escape
go from that one scene that I'm still trying to
get out of. Yeah, And that's that's an independent creator
what I'm struggling with.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
And that's some agencies I don't know why.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
Still look at me like that and talk about it
behind the scenes and think I don't see it. And
it's like, how do I navigate and know who to
work with showing them that hey.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
We've moved past that. You know, there's accountability. I've grown.
You know, there's so many things.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
It's just so hard to navigate as an independent creator
because there was so much favoritism that you have to play.
And it's a real thing that people are scared to
admit just to want to be signed.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yes the way sometimes I will leave it at that,
but I feel like porn politics really gets in the
way of what we want to do versus what we
feel like we have to do. Mm hmmm.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
And I would like to reassure with that for all
anyone that's new watching is that wants to be on
the rise, to not take this into something intimidating. What
it's a learning process that has more experienced Sarah being
laced and Sayah being lazy with it being signed and
that signed. She has experienced me not being signed, having

(20:32):
that concern. Just educate yourself, not look at the first option,
and definitely having.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
A financial comfort to be able to navigate.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
Yourself without having to just put yourself on uncomfortable situations.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Absolutely, And another thing that I will say is do
not be afraid to hit up other performers for references. Yes,
we may not always answer. I will admit someone messaged
me back in November and I saw the because it
was on Twitter. It was one of the Twitter How
do you follow them? We will see them, you know.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
We'll try or see you in person, hit on a convention.
We're just so busy, you know.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
If you need a reference for something, let me know.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
I will. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
I mean that's I mean, that's how I got somebody
got somebody in the industry, and you know, I'm not
cool with that person anymore, but they hit me up
on the on the Twitter and I connected them and
now they're now they're making money important.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
That's good and you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
Also, Sarah with that with the Brain of Salt, take
the advice from. Look at who you're taking it, right,
So like, for example, I take your advice because you
are a very very tined performer, right And I'm not
saying that the kiss as is because you're seeing who
I work with dread Mike Adriana most recently Sarah Days

(22:00):
at Last as well. You know, it's people that have
a tenure ship that happening here in industry, that know
what they're talking about, that do have the history.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Take be careful you take.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
The advice from because sometimes people will give you the
advice to what's convenient to them that what's convenient to you.
Because I remember asking this chick one time. I'm not
gonna say which performer, but I was trying to get
shot with a mainstream company like Browsers or bank Bros. Right,
And I was like, listen, I want to I want
to see what would you suggest if I wanted to

(22:29):
get noticed by them, right, because I don't have an agent.
And she said, well, girl, if they wanted you, they
would have hit you up already. You know, take a
grain of sea exactly exactly, and if it wasn't until
I brought that up without mentioning who Also, don't ever
burn your bridges, keep to yourself who it was, because
it doesn't you know what I mean, to get messy.
Just be impartial of the situation to someone that you

(22:52):
think might see it differently, Be like, listen, do you
think this is right?

Speaker 3 (22:57):
I've had to do that because not everyone is going
to give good advice either. There's a lot of things.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
There's a lot of people out here who love to
sabotage new or people because they feel like, if this
person gets anything, they're gonna take their spot.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
Right, which is which I don't understand because there's so
many categories.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Guys, well, I was.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
There, like because I've been in for a long, long
long time, impornt right, I've been in. I joined in
eight so wow was seventeen seventeen years seven? Things important,
humbly there are so many people out here who just

(23:42):
now joined the industry, and it's such an influx from
because like back in the day when I joined, it
was so hard hard you need to even get an
agent and all that stuff like that, or we booked
and since like two thousand and about seventeen eighteen, when
you have more program companies and it's not so secluded,

(24:05):
you know, like you like you don't you'll just see
like uh like the Beam Show and stuff like that
that you see, you know, multiple other ones or like
uh what I'm trying to think of in New York
Freak Mob, like with Freak with Freak Mob and uh

(24:29):
Tabhole and you have a lot more like pro am
ones out here. My guy who's in in uh Atlanta,
you know uh uh damn, I can't think of his
name right now. You have my guy, my guy in Atlanta,
Like we have multiple different options going on right now,
and like back in the day, what it wasn't there

(24:51):
that it wasn't like.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
That it was to l a had to go to
Vegas to.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Get these.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
But but but now or but like but now, it's like
so many girls that are in with these agencies wherever
they get signed and they just they just sit there
and they don't do anything.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
And that's what And also and I don't mention to
shit on anything, but it's I feel there's a couple
of factors. And maybe I'm not a standard, but we're
looking at the eye tech coming in. These are the
factors that I see that are affecting it, right because
I started from chatterbait. Maybe I didn't start from you know,
eight or whatever. But camming, from camming to of to

(25:34):
being semi pros it's a very hard process, right, especially
if you're.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Doing it on your own single mom.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
I went to Exotic my first Exotica alone, so for
percentage working hours at a strip club just to do that.
But I think the facility of the access to everyone
being open to OnlyFans, having a normally friends open, you
know that popularity contest on Instagram instead of performance based
or are more aesthetically instead of performance based because this

(26:04):
girl has a boob job versus the girl that actually
does the faces that the people want to see when
they're feeling. Because this is a reality that we've presented,
and it's so sad that I have to break not
kind of like a take away the fantasy of our job, right,
kind of break the reality not only through harassment, but
through all their experiences and podcasts to real people. It's like, listen,

(26:28):
real people get stretch marks, real people have actmet, real
people have jiggling, flat boobs and stuff like that. You know,
these companies are focusing more on who has a better
boob job, who has the most following count. And then
I see these girls that yeah, they're pretty, you know,
they're good, they look.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Good and whatever, they have good followers and whatever, but
their performance is just like not entirely there and look good.
You know.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
It has just because of a big name. I'll hire
them for their first scene before seeing what the performance
is actually going to turn out.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
And that's something I try to explain when people want
to work with me, right, and I don't mind working
if if we have a similar basis or your up
and coming, but your quality contents it's like, that's what
I'm looking at.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
I don't care if you're pretty, like because you know
how many beautifer people there are.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
I want a good performer, I want good quality, I
want good angles. I don't care how many followers you
have on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Three things. When I was talking about Damian Cooper kop
that's the one in the Atlanta area. Two there are
so many people in this industry that don't realize that
there's a lot of people that are very unattractive. Like
I'm not attractive at all, but I feel there are
so many people that in this industry that are just here.

(27:54):
And like when it comes to followers, people would just
take one person because it got really popular for some reason.
And I'm like, okay, this person has like four hundred
thousand record Kate followers whatever, But they just I'm not saying,
just look at the camera the entire time and it looks.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Weird, motionless. It's like or yeah, yeah, it.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Sucks, and it's it's very notable. And that's just from me,
me being on the productions.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
But if I say it right, because I'm curly, I'm
in order, it's going to be like, oh, this hating
ass bitch.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
No, just the name my head right here.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Oh they love Curly.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
They I know, I know, I know your your Twitter
name says the hate Curly.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Hate Curly. It's you wonder why.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
That's why I say it like and thank you.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
For the love, because you know you guys love me
for who I am, because I hey, listen, it's not
a personal thing. It's an objective, objective thing. Is one
of the reasons why I've gotten so far such a
short time frame. A lot of people think it's because
of where I've been positioned and with the productions company
I work with, which I will not say it's definitely helped,

(29:10):
but it's helped in the sense that I've made.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
It worked in my favor.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
And I'm gonna tell you why, because I've taken edit
to as a learning opportunity rather than a cloud tracing opportunity,
which I think is a big misconception and a big
reason into why girls are just, you know, not that
serious about what they.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Do and give this fool performance.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
When I started working with these companies right and I
was very close to this producer, I learned how to
properly streamline my content. I looked at how to properly,
but a content creator or a performer that I may
have to pay to keep the content because what that
person came perform camera and I just paid.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
All this said, these arebnb and all that.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
You know, these are things, these are factors to take
into consideration that I've had to work on my own
little by little. You know that I just want people
to take to account themselves when they're looking at the
vetting process and how they also should be carrying themselves
to would.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Go to that level of success instead of just hating.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Absolutely, there's a.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Lot of people who just hate people, be just to
hate people, and it shows it like it resonates, and
then like you have people who'd like look for one
thing to hate on somebody on and then they just
tell everybody this one thing, like like, for example, I
know of somebody who's like eighty five percent of the time.

(30:34):
I'm sorry, I just gotta random yeah, yeah, well that
was weird. I just gotta know someone who was who's
always was always on time, and then one time they
got stuck in traffic and they were late to come
to like someplace because you know how la is, you
can never predict it. And now this person like somebody,

(30:57):
the person that was shooting with somebody would tweeting this
person just all like lake for no reason. And it's
like they told you why they were right.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
They communicated yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
And they communicated whatever. And it's kind of like, so
now you want to give this person a bad reputation, right,
like saying, oh, this person is always gonna be laid
in your set, you know.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Which is not real.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
Right, which also very important, I would say, uh, to
set the tone, especially when it's the first time that
you're giving the apportunity work with someone. I understand that
situations happened, but I had a situation with a content creator,
Uh that's trying to become a semi pro performer that
I chose to work with.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
That was over an hour later, and I said, well,
actually they probably didn't get it.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
Make it to set, right, and I traveled all the
way from Puerto Rica to just make it to that shoot.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Doesn't expense that I had incurrned. Oh yes before it shoots.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
And most of us know if I'm going to be
in a shoot, I can't answer your text messages.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
I'm shooting right preemptively.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
We've have a time scheduled and this is I want
to make this example without pointing out which content creator
it is, but an example for content creators to take
jobs seriously when they are starting to work with other
performers are in a higher level right and that aspect,
take your job seriously.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
So this person had their phone on. Do not disturbed
all the time.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
So if you have a shoot established at a certain
time and you need to communicate that you're laid in traffic,
and I tell you call me because I can't see
text messages because I'm in the middle of the shoot,
we don't come in effectively.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
And you're an over an hour late to my shoot.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
I think it's my due diligence already and also having
a medical emergency past that time. I'm gonna cancel the shoot.
You know I can't read you.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
You're old enough.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
Disturbed, dude, you didn't communicate how I asked you to
be on shoot, and the time was preemptively established, there
was an address. You didn't even try to show up
because even you know, people downstairs didn't tell me. You know,
one showed up to my room. So if I'm canceling
at that point, it's already an hour. You know what
I mean there's also we also have to be ethical

(33:07):
and mindful when canceling.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, absolutely, because I have done it before where they
were an hour late. But I will say they were
communicating with me.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
The entire time right.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Before they were late. They explained why they were about
to be Yeah, their ETA, they even need their pins
location and let me follow it exactly.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
Okay, this is legit right, but if you're being evasive
your phonees is not. Do not deserve for me to
follow up and be like, listen, how much longer can
I wait?

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Because we have a team to wait and all that.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
How am I gonna if it's a one sided effort, Guys,
keep in mind, not everyone's gonna have the same patience
or the same budget to wait for you. Some companies
can even cancel you fifteen minutes late. I've heard this
and sounds like an ass whole thing, But I've heard
some producers cancel at fifteen minutes late to this.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yeah, then and then you got to pay.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
I found out I found out a way of the
I just learned about the way people get out of
kill fees, and I find that so uh, well, how
agencies get out of kill fees and I felt that
I've been around for years. I just found it out.
Like if they offer a different girl and that company
rejects the girl, they don't kill fee. I just I

(34:28):
just I just learned that. Like the other day, I'm like,
that's interesting. But no, they choose for likes. Let's sayt's say,
for example, like they wanted you to come on set
and and no, no, no, let's rephrase this like, uh,
I'm just gonna use Uh so they wanted Gen to

(34:49):
come on set and then but uh, let's say Gin
got got sick that morning whatever and she couldn't come up,
like she got the stomach flue. And then they said, okay,
well it's not available, but Beverley is. And they said, well,
well we don't want Beverly. That's the way they get it.
They get out of it because they offer. Okay, I learned, like,

(35:14):
but that's that's just age I learned.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
I learned that.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yeah, so I like, but it has to be I mean,
I know, it has to be like someone within the
same atmosphere. Like you can't like if if like you like,
if you if the company wanted the b b W
and you say, okay, that person's got the stomach flu.

(35:38):
You can't offer them, you know, a petite woman that's
a different race and say here you go, because it
doesn't match their thinking.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
They have the option, Yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
It has it's someone who matches the same thing you're doing. Yeah,
I learned. I learned that yesterday.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
I'm like, oh, I feel like that.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
It's more difficult you book a free agent because in
case something happens in their head, they're like, well, we
don't have a replacement.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
I feel like in a sense that makes it more understandable.
But at the end of the day, you nor I
have never had a kil fee, you know, we've never
had to be like, oh, I don't know, because but
there was one time I almost came close to paying
that kilfee and it would not have been my fault,
but yeah, that time my agent was like, yeah, you

(36:31):
should have left, and you should have called me right.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Away, and I will wow.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
But I'm just professional to the point where I'm like, well,
I'm I'm already here.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
I'm trying to push through it.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
I am the same same and sometimes we are so
people pleasers were so much of yes man because we're
so good, but sure what and guys try to think
it's twice read.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
There's something I learned also, I started that. Uh.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
I know it's gonna sound maybe silly, but other people
might have not heard. Don't sign anything until after the shoot,
you know what I mean, So you can can't like
maybe you can initial it and whatever, put those sign
and so if anything happens, you gonna just avoid that
contract before you know what I mean, you're not stuck
with that shoot and you didn't want to do something
and then you sign it already.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah, always make sure that, uh, make sure that when
you do your video of what is cool and what's
not cool, that you also keep a copy of yourself
saying it, just so the footage doesn't wind up missing a.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Real yeah, because I will.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
I will admit I do sign all the peoplework as
soon as I get there, submit my ideas and stuff.
But I personally have only canceled a scene, and that
was a content trade. We were in the middle of
doing things and he was he was angry and upset

(38:09):
already because he was not getting his way. So I
had to be like, Nope, we're not We're not doing that.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Yeah, I killed the Yeah, by the way.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Like New performers. Content is content. Sex is sex. It's
not our relationship.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
Absolutely, and there's a difference also with content creating and
also like on set performance or semilaterities the similarities, but
there's also uh more people. It's not because I say
basis on that on this Sometimes when I try to
bring up a videographer on set, content creators are like.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
No, I want to do a one on one. Yes, like, bro,
I just want to have sex with me. Bro, Like
what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Exactly?

Speaker 4 (38:55):
Like I'm a performer, I'm not a content creator. If
you just want to do that of doing with your homie,
you know what I mean? Like something to take into
account when you're looking at bigger talents to work with.
And that's where that sex and sex relationship relationship which
happens at every level, whether content or performer. And then
that confusion as to hey, if you're working with the

(39:17):
with the non just content creator, but actually someone that's
performed on set, don't take it as condescended, to take
it as a learning experience, because if we just want
to do things your way, then just look at someone
at their own scale level that does things that way.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
We'll take personal.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
And one of the things I do have to bring
up with that is we are not fluffers.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Okay, right, we are performers.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
If the male talent needs help, right, we can absolutely
do that. We can help, but at least try to
get yourself like semi hard. Right, Like the guy was
upset at me, like during that one film I had
to cancel. Was because he walked in like with a

(40:06):
full attitude, sign the paperwork and stuff, and then we
started the film and he took his clothes off and
was like, all right.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Get me hard, and he was like gummy worm, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Gummy worm. He didn't even put his hand on it
to stroke a single time. He was just like yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
And I had to say it because you're maybe nicer
about it. But sometimes I've been like, bro, that's not
my job.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
I literally it's very old mindset.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
It It's like maybe that was the thing at some point,
but like.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
It's like you used to it used to be like
it used to be people on set and just literally
was there to keep it too Hardn't get me wrong,
I know that, like some people like literally need need
the help in order to get hard. And it's like, because.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
Let me know before working with you so I don't
have to come on say find that out, you know, I.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Mean because because because like outside that, like you know,
in general, like if you're on a pro set, you're
not always attracted to the person you're doing the same
and that works both ways, and like so sometimes you
need that little encouragement, you know, and so and as
a as a person, as a as a as someone

(41:24):
who is the opinions carrier, like I know, sometimes it's
kind of like I'm doing this and I don't, you know,
it's just you can't just do that because you know
sometimes whatever and yeah, for that, but if you know
that going in, at least do something to try to
get yourself hard. There are there are appeals for that,

(41:48):
Like I don't have it, I don't have the mock up.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Like there's so many options there.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
As supplements that you know, they can help you know,
you know, maintain the erection, you know. Yeah, And if
you and if you're like a person who wants to
go to porn or interporn, you're a male, you can't
just say, Okay, I have a big dick, I can
do porn. And in the last two.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Minutes that's not that's not all that goes into it.
Thank you for bringing that up.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
If I can segue into that, and that's something that
it goes into my bedding process. It's psycho Okay, how
long can you maintain certain positions according to the needs
of my shoot, not what's plicuit role to you or
what you can maintain on you know, on your poor
performance because you didn't prepare yourself. There's a lot of
people that are camera shy because your camera shy and

(42:39):
you don't tell me your camera shy, and then you
just cancel randomly or you're like you're not comfortable with
my camera guy, but I'm gonna be like, O gat
there's some shady stuff, but we don't have to go
through that.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
You know, we can both prepare ourselves. Like I don't mind.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
I've done like tour here and there to just you know,
have someone visually stimulated.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
But I'm not personally comfortable having to is go on
out of my way just like you said to do that.
And I've had I've had people that do.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
POV shots that are like, oh, well, we gotta that
cancel shoots with me because they're like, oh, we got
to make out murder for me to work and I'm like,
but this is a POV shot, like why yeah, does
not play any part into that, you know what I mean.
So it's like you play, you get into that. So guys,
just if that's not your thing, preemptibly prepare yourself because

(43:27):
it's uncomfortable for both parties, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
And it goes also into girl girl. If you're not
into girl girl, don't do girl girl.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
I mean there's a lot there's a lot of girls
out here, okay, and like to personally only watch a
girl girl or girl machine. I've seen girls who are
taking for pay whatever and it just looks it looks
like you're allergic to licking. And it's not like it's

(43:57):
like I can I can see, I can see you
on it. And that's as a consumer, as a consumer
of it, it just kills the entire mood. And I
understand like everybody every girl does not like you know,
doesn't doesn't like licking another female, which is okay, just
like you other things like you could you could be

(44:20):
the be the strapper and you like you don't know, yeah,
and there's other things like you could think that you
could be a Yeah, this thing you can do. You know,
or just have them eat you out, whatever whatever. But
it's like there's there's supplementary ways you can do whatever.
But as far as you said, our position goes though,

(44:42):
Like I'm helping a friend of mine, like they just
started joining whatever, and I tell them it's like good
rule of thumb is four, five, five, six, and I'm
sorry if we're all out there, I'm sorry, four minutes
to five minutes for her position and dude, shut them
out or five to six and you have a lower

(45:02):
number about so if you if you plan on doing
five positions, a four or five might be good for
twenty minutes. If you on doing like a like three positions,
a five and five to six would be good for
whatever that gives you at least fifteen to eighteen minutes,
because you're not you're not trying to you're not trying
to go for like do what do what? Eighty five minutes?

(45:24):
Seeing right, trying to get in and out, but you're
trying to make sure at least twenty you far with it.
I'll always say seventeen seventeen to twenty five because you
have because sometimes if you have the dialogue, you know
and like and sometimes and sometimes and this is my brain.

(45:47):
Sometimes someone can be having a really good I'm gonna
say this, and I don't mean to say someone so
like negative to anybody else. Sometimes I don't realize how
good yus he is. And sometimes like it feels too
good and you can't control it.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
I can't tell you how to handle that.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Yeah, performers like like, damn no.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
So listen when that happens.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
When that happens, both men fieble performers just switch out
current positions in order to.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Give each other a break of the simulation of that moment.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Because I had someone that it's very well known that
could not last and one specific decision.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
For ten seconds.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
So imagine trying to shoot at least a fifteen minute
video every ten seconds. Every time some I'm like, bro,
we're gonna have to do something else because you can't
handle it, you know what I mean. So when that happens,
in order because you're not even gonna make it to
the five minute threshold, you know what I mean, switch
it up, Switch it up in order to give that
person a break, because they're human.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
They need a break from this. You're being too much
room and that can album.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
I mean, I agree but it's just like sometimes you
just can't help it.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Because we got admitsimes, they can't help it.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
So what we plan to be a twenty five minute
scene ends.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Up being what was it, sixteen minutes?

Speaker 1 (47:24):
I think I always give a rule them like sixteen
to twenty to twenty three, twenty four for content, like
because you can't you can't always control what a company
wants me to do. That's their company. We're doing content,
like because you always or pay whatever, because sometimes you
do have the dialogue and sometimes the dialogue and the

(47:48):
four play is like two three it's like two three minutes,
and like you're not if you eat like it's someone
it's going down on someone first whatever, and you're doing
an x amount know four or five, five, six you
have or that you have that time whatever to at
least hit you know, a certain amount of time. Yeah,

(48:08):
you're not being penetrated, like play with that, play with
and you can always you know, if you're inside and
you feel it coming, you can pull out and eat
her out and just let you exactly.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
That's kind of where I was going with me.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
But but it's like.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
That's not always the case.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
Sometimes and the only reason when I have that rule
of thumba and thank you for aligning me. Was because
depending on every content creator or performer stream liments their content.
There are some sites that require a minimum type of
a footage for you to be able.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
To monetize on it. And you want to make.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
Sure that it's not crucial boards of these films so
they know where to look forward, not.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
For free exactly.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
That makes sense.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Yeah, that's why the rule of thumb is at least
five minutes of dialogue and four.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Play exactly, so you can put that there penetration. You know,
you go, m hm, say Rice, You're welcome. Guys, this
is how much we love you.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
But you get that five minute intro and then you
put in like thirty seconds of each position and you're
just like, y'all know where to find.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
It right right or a little bit so quick question,
So I want to talk about this because we've been
on you, so your your merchandise about that march.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Yes, I need a.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Gonna say this real quick.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
Yes, I have a bucket.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Before before before we got on the podcast, we were
testing out screaming on Twitch for a little bit. Like
it's like we do a via zoom.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
I am dying, and while.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
And while we were on here chilling, she was looking
at your at your merchandise. He was like, oh, I
love this bucking hat. And like we were talking to
chat about how would y'all feel about this bucket hat,
about your your We're talking about wearing your bucket hat
on Twitter.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
But people say, I.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Think I don't know you. Do you know swift Kid?
You ever heard that name before? I think yeah? So
swift Kid was in the chat and he was talking
about that. He that he would like, I love rock.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
I'll send you some bucket Thank you. I appreciate that
a lot. I really do.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Support my co performers. So just let me buy it, okay, Yes?

Speaker 3 (50:37):
And then and I also for the girls I have
these babies.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
I would I would more so I would buy a
shirt from you. My head is too big and I
have dread locks and it makes it really hard to
put anything on you.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
You're good.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
I have some oversized teeth coming out for guys that
look really really cool.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
I will rock.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
If you had like once you get it to x paye,
I would buy it because I have I have a
whole suitcase over here of Jezz performers T shirts. With
like I when I wear it to certain events and
say hey I got.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
Today you know, yeah, no, but I wear it from
my stand up all the time.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
I get it in the gym.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
But go ahead, was what do you what do you
have currently or that you will have when this goes live?

Speaker 4 (51:25):
Okay, So I'm in the process of streamlining all through
to my shopify, to the curly awakend store dot com,
but some of it is currently in my many Bits
slip store, which is I believe saw the bucket hats,
which is pretty cool because what comes with the buckethead
is a free video, so it's.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Like, you know, you get a for one you know
type deal.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
And then on my side, I'm launching these sides is
that are like for like you can wear pajamas or
crop jobs.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
I don't know if you guys.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
Have seen the freak short, but it kind of has
the same tight fit that you can work with undergarments
and have the same matchic colors and some them weare
and these booty shorts that I'm worrying too.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Ooh, that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
So your bucket always be popping.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
See I'm definitely slacking all my merch, but I love
the idea of yours. Like mind you. I have almost
one of every Freak Mob shirt and those are.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
Comfy exactly imagine having that same feeling and type fit
because it fits uncomfortably to your body too. So I
got them with different brands and different little slangs and
all that.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
So we're working on that.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
And it should be this one's already available, but the
next one should be in around summer.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Purpose.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
So this episode is coming out June ninth, if I'm correct,
so maybe by then you will have had released a few.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
More absolutely, And also I have scenes what great people
coming up by then and that you guys are gonna
enjoy that also feature that merch, so you're gonna get
the best of two views. I just shot a couple
of days ago with Sarah Ja a couple of scenes,
so that's gonna be legendary and fun. I'm looking forward
because it's coming out around that day, okay.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
And for funzies, I will re release our our sexy
girl girls scene.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
Newby Cherry Time Amateur Cherry Times.

Speaker 4 (53:33):
Ana love it, are gonna love it. It was great
and it's outdoorsy and so aesthetic. It's amazing.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
I've never seen this same.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Yet, but I'll send it to him later.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
It always feels weird watching my friends.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
It's it's okay.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
I've known it for so long and it's like I
get it, just like once once I know your government name.
It's kind of like it's like I know, like I know,
I know you're hosting after raisins in life, I.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
Know, I feel that. I feel you go to love it,
you go to love it, you have goals.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Oh my god, you're not.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
Oh my god, no.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
You're humanized. Now I can't.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
I actually have those problems with my friends because I
live on a small island and you know, Latina's trend,
so they gotta be like, bro, you ruin the whole
life life because you come in my reference videos and
I have to be like, I can't do it.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
People actually meet me.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
So funny when they hit you up and they're like,
damn it.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Back back when I first, like around my second year imporn,
Like I was on one of the porn sites and
like I didn't know a model I knew did porn
stuff until like it was a pop up and it
was a This is when hayes Her was still popular.
Hates her video pop up I'm like, oh, I know where.

(55:18):
I'm like, oh my god, I just have like grab off.
I'm like, are you are you doing porn?

Speaker 3 (55:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (55:26):
I just got a random pop.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Up terrible.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (55:33):
It's a love hate relationships the process.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Who sees it?

Speaker 3 (55:37):
You know, it really doesn't.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
But also I had like friends, like when I shoot
with certain people, they are like, oh my god, you're
shooting with that person legendary. It's like their whole like
teenage years come through, like realization they're living vicariously.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
So there's that side of it.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
I've actually recently had people mentioned you before, likely where
they're like, you did a scene with Curly Recon.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
I get the same thing too from you. That's like, yeah,
we're cool. We're awesome people. Thank you. I love her
as much as you love her.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Mm hmm exactly.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
So cool. People before we were just normal people.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
It's so awesome when they like mentioned a fellow like
friend slash performer, and I'm like, oh, yes, she's so awesome.

Speaker 5 (56:32):
There is like I really know this person, I really
really know them, and I know how they really like
I'm so cool because it gives in the aspect that
I wish everyone would just think more often exactly.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
And it's really funny though, sometimes when you're very close
friends with a performer to the point where you kind
of forget to like film stuff.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
You know, even if you're just going to start talking,
I'm like a.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Little TikTok er so thing just to be like, hey,
look who look who I'm with or whatever. Yeah, and
people like do y'all even like talk? Do y'all like ye?

Speaker 3 (57:09):
And I'm like.

Speaker 4 (57:11):
They're like, we're just friends. Like she's just like my homegirl.
Like that, I found my freaking bucket hat like better.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Like than never. Like it's kind of like.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
It's kind of thusty, but it kind of goes like,
let's have my headphones on, but I don't know if
it's gone.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
That's so cute, so pretty see I told you rosstar,
I need one.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
I didn't say I was it was cute. I said
it was. Look at it.

Speaker 4 (57:39):
So this will go out if you guys want to
do a promo later on on that and for people
that watch this episode specifically, we'll give them a special
person and ask food to support this podcast because we're
a community.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Someone buy me when please and thank you.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
Absolutely we'll take those two the.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Question, So, like, who have not worked with that? You
want to work with.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Five performers, and it can be companies as.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Well performers, companies male female.

Speaker 4 (58:18):
Well, I don't know a lot of people, but let's
see Monica Santiago. They one, definitely, I have the audience
in bracing. Let's see who else I would like to
work with Johnnyson's. I know that's very cliche, but this

(58:39):
is a thing. There's so much commony behind the scripting, right,
and you guys, as you know, you guys know the
different known people I bring to life, right, which is
Belmont And like other cospers, I'm like, this is who
I saw and these are one of the reasons I

(58:59):
like that scripting. So that's another person mm hmm. Think,
gee golly, you got me really really good there. I
recently worked with someone that I would definitely work with
again because they're very ethical. Oh, I don't know what's
the name, Dixland girl was his name. He's so tall

(59:21):
and like Lighthide, let's see Sarah J. Definitely would work again.
A dread would definitely ten out of ten. Mike Adriana
Force his other sides that I haven't had, and I
need to work with maybe like a true and old
or stuff like that. Probably those companies definitely who does

(59:42):
not want Bambros, browsers and all that.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
Right, So I would say that's a pretty heavy list
right there.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
You can do it, no what.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
That's right. But I will say when I got my
booking for Bank Bros, they had actually tweeted out that
they were looking for performers in Miami and I sent
them an email. I literally just sent them an email,
sent them my measurements and stuff, and they're like, bet,
we want to book you. We have availability on this day,

(01:00:16):
this day, and this day. When are you over?

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
So you would say more look out their postings on
their sides or where or where did you find this out?

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Yeah, this was on Twitter that comes with them quite
a while ago, but it was it was pretty much
a last minute booking. And I will say they randomly
will tweet out stuff like that. I don't think you
have to wait for one of those tweets. I think
you really can just email them with your stats and
your info and I think they will want to book you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
I'm gonna try it for one of them.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
In particular place, for bang Bros, they always are looking
for somebody for bang Bus and they usually try to
get like new herb usually new Herb people, And yeah,
it's really like it's that's what like be the best
one that's eat the easiest of all their sights because

(01:01:15):
normally if you look at bank but it's like usually
like brand new people.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
So yeah, definitely thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
They did tell me at least that I was a
little too well known for bank Bus, but they did
put me straight into bang Bros. As one of the
like Latina.

Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
Mads something worse right, I'm gonna try that though, mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
The made vibe but with the yoga pants and like
a yoga top.

Speaker 4 (01:01:46):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
M h Honestly, the funniest part, at least for this
scene was they ordered a pizza. It wasn't for us
to eat. They ordered a pizza. It took different bites
and like it like threw them around for me to
clean up.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
Oh wow, that's creative. I'll say that I did that
with my Dunkin Donuts.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
One did you.

Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
The donuts were just you know, I had to eat
another donut donut after donut.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Some donuts fell.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
Yeah, waching a time for the donuts yeah, felt guilty
after that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
I know, I feel guilty like wasting the food, but
I'm just like, you know what, it served its purpose.
It was for a good cause.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
Because someone's gonna love this somewhere, someone's son is gonna
be proud of this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Exactly exactly what that Who did a what is it like?
A UPS style scene? I think?

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
Dam, I've done pretty much every delivery service you can
think of besides h L. I want to say, say, ups, usps, Fedeggs,
what else is there to deliver?

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
You are delivering the goods? Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Yes, absolutely, Amazon is pending. Definitely thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Your dash esque one.

Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
Too, right, Yeah, like I've done my foot ones. Those
are definitely funny. It's just everything.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
My favorite ones are are cosplay ones because it's just
like bringing this character to live or just really dumb
lead ups you know what I mean, the leaders that
you're like, how in the real world would this make sense?

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
But okay, let's give it a shot.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Exactly exactly. I love cosplay for that reason, and mind you,
this is why I like filming what we do, because
there is no one size fits all. You know, yes,
as you want.

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
To be because you were like, Prince Jasmine, right, yes,
I did my God, I.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Have not been a princess yet. I have to try it.
I'll probably be brave or something like that because I
got this hair. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
I mean when I did Princess Jasmine, I did my
own hair. Obviously my hair is not as curly as yours.
But I put my hair up. I had the ponytail
extension that was like past my waist.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
It's cute. I might try it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
It was definitely heavy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
That's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
It was awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
That's cute. Maybe princess which is just something like that Princesses.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
I was thinking, yes, I'm thinking I'm gonna think of
some some Princesses stuff. Yeah, I go wear a wig
for that one because I'm like kind of lighter to
try that. I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
That's fine. People love your.

Speaker 4 (01:04:59):
Ny Yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
Your name is you know you know.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
The last conventions I went, I went with the pony
and people just walked past me did not recognize me.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
And I had a huge banner with my name on it.
But for the.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
Ponies, they're like, now her, now I have my curtent
of here and they're like, oh, it was her there, like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
So there you're known for your your here.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
Yeah, definitely, mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
Absolutely, the name trademark natural.

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:42):
Yeah, I'm like, no makeup, no lashes on, so it's
just it is what it is, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
I love doing that. That really does give us that
Latina next door vibe, you know, where we don't always
have to wear makeup on our.

Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
Scenes because it's not realistic all the time exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
I will literally do random ass like videos where I'm
just hanging out at home and I'm like, you know what,
I'm horny and he's he's playing video games and he's
not giving me attention. Right, put the tripod up somewhere,
start recording.

Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
I'm like, hey, this is what I'm gonna do now. Yeah,
I feel that gotta be greater exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
I love just having fun in our natural environment.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
Mm hmm. So questions, so four or five years from now,
what do you where do you see yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
For five years from now?

Speaker 4 (01:06:39):
Definitely, I don't think I have that extended of a
career performing wise, because I do want to expand into
the sense of either producing or emerge and sports where
all that, you know, not that I'd shame on performing, right,

(01:07:00):
But I do have certain conditions that my body will
not probably give out for an extended period of time, right,
as well as certain live expectations that I have with
aligned with the lifestyle I want to live a during
a couple of years from now right, definitely, I am taking
some real estate classes. I'm working on this clothing stuff.

(01:07:23):
I'm going to be working on producing some sort of
Latina spin off on the bust of some other places,
and I'm just going to put it at that to
try to be on the back end of that aspect, right,
and just try to still be in the community, but
in other ways that I'm not necessarily in front of
the camera.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Hope, I really hope that your production site goes off
because I think, you know, after you've been around for
a little bit, you learn what people really want and
how you know just here, howdah, how to sell it,

(01:08:07):
how to marketize it, you know, right, you know, So
I wish with the best with that because I know,
I know you can blow up.

Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
I hope so, because especially with the with the clothing
brand and all that I'm trying to work with comedy
and all that I'm trying to do so many things. Man,
I definitely want to grow and also want to do
a nonprofit which in any sense of mental health, especially
with the with our struggles in our jobs sitting. I know,

(01:08:41):
you guys know how point app will support something like
that to that extent, you know, and also something for
the community kind of those different aspects.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
But I've always been into the social.

Speaker 4 (01:08:51):
Aspect of that, you know, that part of helping others,
and uh so what I went to school for. That's
something that also is something to keep in the mind
in the future as well, not just only to have
that investment, but also to do a nonprofit to help others.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
So it's just a couple of things that happened in
mind that psychology.

Speaker 4 (01:09:11):
Yeah, No, my major was in human rights. That's what
I want to go back into most definitely because there
will be the basis of the thesis. But actually my
major was in human rights and anti discriminatory processing. Definitely
gave me a perspective into the correlation of the lack

(01:09:33):
of accessibility to affordable mental health and that correlation with criminality.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
Or sex work. Right, And it's like.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
You would not imagine how many of these girls have
VBB and it's like on that knowledge and their signs
are there, and it's like, you know what I mean,
haven't you been around the block.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
With certain mental health conditions.

Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
You see it, but you're not a special rain person
to do it, but you want to get them to
safe space because you see.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
It yourself in them. You know.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
It's something I kind of worn up bring out out
there because I want everyone has that bravery and I
don't want to make them feel discriminated because I feel
a lot of girls really need that support absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
And that does bring me to another I guess random question.
Do you know if there's any production companies or like
physical studios within Pretty Rego?

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
Not really, So I'm hoping to be one of the
first see that would be I'm bringing people.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
Yeah, that's one of the things that I was thinking
because from at least from what I know, I have
not heard of.

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
Any No, and there's only one time testing, which makes
it really hard because people here don't take their jobs seriously.
It's like that whole content creator, real performer type thing
that we're talking about, right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
It's such a small eyeland.

Speaker 4 (01:10:48):
It's a small mindset that it's like only the few
selected that have gone to Weilli or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
We'll take it with the seriousness.

Speaker 4 (01:10:55):
That we have, you know, And I want to bring
that aspect here and I want them to grow. The
girls here at the town testing love Stacey O were
there in Miami and so shout out Stacey.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
We love her so uh.

Speaker 4 (01:11:07):
But definitely is that concept I want to bring out,
you know, and other companies are more than welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
Definitely want a network out it as well, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
It would honestly be really nice to see a production
studio based out of pure Rico.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
That's not no easy feat to do.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
Yeah, it's dorible, It's doable. Definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
It's like a whole new market by itself. Like everybody
would say oh, and they say, oh, all you know,
all Puerto Rican per person else, and it's like more
people would say, oh, people who are like me, you know,
because produced, you know, we're like more produced by me

(01:11:56):
rather than the makeup of other places.

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
Also to think about in that aspect, it is something
that I'm endeavoring in its Act twenty to nineteen. It's
the property extempsion. If you bring commerce into Puerto Rico.
So for you're a production company, you can have a
concient house here.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
That'd be awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
And it's like, you don't have to go to Columbia necessarily,
could you just come from Miami here, m there's a
talent testing here, you know. Yeah, absolutely, got Musco.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
I need to I need to go to Puerto Rico.
I know you don't need passport.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
For this, but now that yeah, no, you got me
hungry already.

Speaker 4 (01:12:42):
You're like, you need to go because I think people
have come for the food and I'm like, man, I
got to eat too.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Exactly exactly, because like when we travel for work, we're
not only traveling for work, We're also trying to find
new experience and tend to be food based. I love bit. Yeah,
like a lot of performers tend to be foodies, but
for good foods. You know, we kind of go to

(01:13:12):
a new place just to try the same old thing
we want when you place find a mom and pop shot,
you know, like that where they gave us some good,
authentic food.

Speaker 4 (01:13:23):
Yeah. Absolutely, And that's what I want to show prom
Puerto Rico.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
That reminds me, didn't you do a beach scene?

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
I do a lot of them. Yeah, that's hard because
there's people that peep it's bad deeper.

Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
And it's like I'm getting more popular here, so it's
like I gotta be more cautious.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
I get that. So so where can anybody you know,
find you, buy your content, you know, become one with Curly.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:13:58):
So, like, let's see, my Instagram is the Curly Reacan underscorm.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
My tweeter is behave Curity. My of is a Curly
Weekend official or the Curly Reacon official.

Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
You can just google Curly reacans it abuse here a
lot of the things will pop up.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
I'm an all site. I'm on many bits.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
Really hurt y'all people are weird out here, huh as
to make sure it's really you, the people who are
weird out here?

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah definitely. So for Instagram, I'm verified
definitely me And yeah. Another thing is I don't answer my.

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
Pages with bots, and sometimes it takes a bit of
formative respond but it's because I try to keep it authentic.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
So definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
Oh before because I was wrapping up, It's one thing
I got to say, because you use wright it up
people out there who pay for only fan people to
to monitor your site, make sure they don't send the
same message to everybody. It's like it's like like I
don't like, I don't tallow anybody, like really a lot

(01:15:11):
on my on our on our only fan stuff. But
I was looking one day and like three people's, three
different humans had the exact same message.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
Like there isn't the same body or the same person.

Speaker 4 (01:15:26):
Yeah, and that just creates a bad name for other
of us because I may have the same caption from
the same video or resend the same video. And people
were like, is this really you because it's staking you
so long to answer, and it's like, yeah, this is organic.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
It we take you ale to answer. I understand, but
like it was it was something about dancing and they
all said I can't be a I can't be a
good dancer, but I can dance for you or something.
It was. It was really corny, but it was just
like it went out from three different people and like
because yeah, like since yeah, like since like the people
who do the new podcast, we do like, uh it

(01:16:06):
shows up as followed whatever I tagged them to it,
and those messages get sent to me and other people
who whatever it pops up and I'm like yeah, yeah,
and we're.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
Just like, well, now I know who has a who
has a management team.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
Yeah, and yeah, there's something wrong with it, but they're
sitting messages out for you. I can see.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
They regulated. Yeah. It happens with Twitter too.

Speaker 4 (01:16:32):
There's people I know in person that I get messages saying, hey,
my manager wants to connect with you, and I'm like, bro,
you know me in person. So I know that person
has a management team, because why would this person be
sending me.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
This random mass message?

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
Exactly?

Speaker 4 (01:16:45):
Monitor that guys monitored, better make your money's word spent.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
Exactly. I will say that it is one of the
big things that we see.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
M m okay, Sarah listwater, can you find you?

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
Okay, So you guys can find me on I am
Sarah leys dot com. All of my links and my
social medias will be on there.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
We're at the Sorry the Burbank missfit on Instagram, burban
is on Facebook, Twitter, and Blue Sky. I'm raw Star
or a bar on Instagram, the Twitter and on Blue Sky.
Mss Curly Wreaking. You are absolute joy. Everybody out there.
Go out and buy her merch, Shower her with love

(01:17:27):
and gifts that she deserves. Make sure you go out
and buy her content on every platform that she says,
and then you know what, if you if you feel
even more feisty, just just give her a tip of
extra twenty dollars and say this is just for being you,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
Yeah, and I wish you the best success in everything
that you do.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
So everybody please do it in next week. I will
know who the guests will be, but yeah, be well,
be awesome and we'll talk to you ladin.

Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
Thank you, guys. Thanks