The Pure Entertainment w/ Haley Spades

Episode Transcript

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This is raw Star, and ofcourse I'm joining with my wonderful co host
Sarah Lazy. You're listening to theMidstit Effect. How you doing, miss
Sarah? Hey, I am doingpretty pretty great. Hi head kind of
an adventure this weekend, but we'lltalk about that later. First, I
really want to introduce you to thewonderful, amazing Hailey Spades. Hi,

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it's a little beautiful. Can youkind of describe yourself to people a little
bit and kind of yeah, whoyou are? Yeah, I'm an adult
performer, porn star, I ama content creator, I'm a streamer,
gamer, raiver, check all theboxes, you know. I love But

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what kind of games do you play? Mainly competitive shooters? But I do
really like the RPG Near Automata rightnow, Okay, I don't know what
that is. It's a really goodgame. They have a really good anime
they just name because the head tieof it. I know that that's a

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head tie of there's a head time. Yeah, there's hand tie of everything
at this point, but yeah,there's a there's a few I think you
can look up Near Automata like Assemblyor something like that, and it's basically
the girl getting like like you know, all the dildos on her and stuff

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like that. It's really cool.Wow, I like it. I see
these the guy ever, I've seenyou you you spread on Twitch, and
I know I've said back and watchyou play Valoris in CLD, yes,
and I know I can't. Ican't play those games. I look at
you for uh information, because Ican't do it. Yeah, I mean

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I'm not. I'm really good atCall of Duty either, but Valoris getting
better. I mean I just Ijust suck. I can't do any type
of any type of building gang tokill other people. Yeah, like could
you also do uh yeah, okay, No, I can't. I can't.

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I can't do any of those typesof like shooting games. Like so,
I don't know what it is withme, but it's like using both
thumbs or both joysticks at the sametime as what messes me up, you
know, Like that's where I startgetting messed up. Like I like to
practice it on GTA in like ghostmode, you know. But like for

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example, flying a plane, I'llhave my dude literally like put like put
the plane up in the air,get it started, and he's like all
right, just let it go straight, you know, and I'm like,
I play a mouse and keyboard mainly, so I play controller when I am

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playing like an RPG, because likethere's just too many button suppressed and this
is just easier. But I'm mainlya mouse and keyboard person. Now,
is it a five or Xbox controller? This is a I use Okay,
yeah, I use Xbox at myfailures. So one of your favorite game

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to play that you play online now, like mainly? Is it just the
way you're playing now or I wouldsay probably Valerie, same mold right now.
I do like Fortnite a lot,but it gets really old, really
faster. Mean, Valerie, Iam constantly trying to rank up. So
yeah, it's like a grinding gameand it's getting funner. Do you play
Do you play the opposite of Valeriebecause you know, uh, Valerie's Riot,

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right Yes? Do you play anyLeague? No? Why, I've
just never I've never gotten too thatgame. I am a league at it,
and I've wasted so much money onlegal legends that it's said that,
Yeah, yeah, I purchased allthe skins. That's what I've heard is

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like people who play League, theygot into it like years and years ago
and they're still playing it, andI feel like I just it's not the
game for me if I haven't figuredit out by now. I think that
started about season seven of the game, and I think it's it's on season
twelve now. But I purchased alllike one thousand and six hundred and fifteen

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of the skins. I have alot of skins in Fortnite, and then
I have a lot of Dune skinsand Valorie, which is that's so much
money where I even to talk aboutthat? Because when you're like you've carried
like a certain like certain skins inthe game of Valerie, like people are
like, how much money is youspaid on that? It's like, I
don't want to talk about it.It's very well. There used to be

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a button that has said, likehow much money I have I wasted all
the league And last time I didlook, it was like about four three
and twenty. Oh see. Ijust need that to just never be in
front of me. Ever, Idon't even know how much I have sent.
Damn. And here I complain aboutsims because the thing is, it's

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like they don't have skins, theyhave like game packs and expansion packs.
And at this point, if youbuy all of them. It's close to
like two thousand, and I've gottenmaybe halfway. Oh my god, that's
insane. Yeah, quite a biton SIMS four. That's that's all I
really plagued, just because it's justfree to play now with the controler.

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It is free to play now.That's kind of what got some of us
like low key of sex. It'slike I already be upset, right,
I spent like fucking fifty bucks forthat, And then mind you, this
past weekend there's this it's called thebackyard Stuff pack. That one just became
free also, and I'm like,backyard and stuff. Yeah, it's just

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like outdoor little things, you know, like a little water slide and stuff
like that. But I was like, you made me spend money on that
just for you to go and giveit free to somebody else over. Yeah.
That was also like like backdoor stuff. Like no, there was no
creative like the creative mind behind thatname. That was just back door stuff.

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Yeah, backyard stuff like backyard.Oh that's what I Yeah, I
said backyard. I was trying tosay outdoor and then backyard. Yeah.
I was thinking in the dirty formlike someone was just thinking about the back
door. No, I was tryingto my backyard and outdoor at the same

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time. That's how I get you, though, because they say, yeah,
this game is free, free toplay, but then you usually have
to pay for everything else. Butit's like like like for you, like
you're talking about the skins and metoo, was kind of like you played
to look pretty yes, pretty much, yeah, because that's that league.

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But I just want to look cute. Why why I suck it? Yeah,
got you gotta look cute even thoughgood or good or bad. Like,
yeah, I don't play Fortnite,but I know like there's like this
whole I look good. Yeah totwo skins. There's uh like they just

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reintroduced the turtle skin or something likethat, or the turtle skin to make
me make the Michael Lanelo oh Ninjaturtles. I was like, just I
heard just turtles. I was like, what and what's his name? Uh?
Buff Buff family guy? Uh ohyeah. I feel like it's just

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about that one. What's his name? But Peter Peter, Peter Griffin.
So you pay Jesse you like toplay, adds him, mm hmm,
yeah, saying like, yeah,they couldn't afford the fat Peter so they
got the buff Peter. It isa really ugly skin. In my opinion,

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I don't like it. I wasdisappointed because, like I appreciate,
though I appreciate you know, buffPeter. You want, you want the
original, you want you want tosee you know, mister, mister I
beat up on chickens, runner aroundin his natural form, yes, no

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beating up on everybody, you know, yes, exactly in his full dad
bod glory you know, correct,Yes, you want you want? You
want his belly to bounce right whenyou run, exactly exactly, And like
I don't like it. Is likethere's like a people dancing, so you
use what Peter Peter dance whatever oror or if when he wins he gets

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down on his like his back andjust hold his leg, you know,
his owl motion. Like it's justlike I would have I would have liked
to see like fat Peter, youknow, just have more more energy put
into his skin for real? Whatis your favorite what is your favorite one

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in that game than your favorite skin? Me? Yeah? You about you?
I have too many favorites. Ohmy god, right now, I
don't know any of the names ofthe skin, so like that's an issue.
Nobody's gonna know what I'm talking about. Describe like no, you know
what, like someone out there.Yeah. The one I use a lot

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is it's like this girl. Shehas sunglasses on and like a hat top
hat. I think is that atop hat? I can't remember howd of
haw it is. And then shehas like a guitar backpack and like this
really like a plaid skirt. Shehas red hair, She's really huge.
It's like one of the worst skinslike that came out in the game,
like in the early days, andit's like it looks like this like indie

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girl is like too cool. Ijust like, I just like it because
she doesn't have like a dirty face. A lot of the female skins in
forte have like really weird faces.And I think because she has sung glasses
on, you can't see her dirtyface, And I like it. That
makes sense. A lot of thegames sometimes, like depending on the game,
don't always get the female form correctthey're trying to go with, and

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then it looks like a weird combinationof bad and worse. Yeah, they
always or a lot of them tendto like over accentuate the curves in your
life, bro, I just wantto play as a girl. Okay,
yeah, I just want to bea cute girl. I need't to make
it weird. I mean, becausethey trying to appeal to the those those

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twelve or thirteen year olds up.Even they shouldn't watch a family eye.
Well, I mean I said thatlightly, right, I said they shouldn't
be but like we all know theyare. But like mm hmm, exactly.
The thing is, even you havelike parental controls and ship a lot
of a lot of like his nothow to get around that too. Yeah,

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Like I just realized how old Iwas with what you just said,
because y'all grew up watching Family Guyand I was already I was already in
Collagen. Family Guy was a thing. So because how old this Family Guy?
Now, even that's a great question. I think Family Guy came back

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because I remember, like it was. It just came back, like they
take it off air because it wastoo much. Yeah, so yeah they
nineteen ninety nine is in its firstair. Yeah, they take it off
the air for like three years.Yeah, so it came back in old

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one crazy Yeah. So, andI went to college in two thousand and
one, so a lot of usliterally grew up with it. Yeah.
Yeah, so like I'm not goingto not like reading about family. Guy,
I'm like, I don't even reallylike that show, to be honest,
but you know, I respect respect. See. I enjoyed it a

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lot back in the early days ofit, and now it was just a
whole bunch of repetit repetivisms. Yeah, the same thing, the same thing
with uh South Park, you know, yeah, the one I really like.
I haven't really watched it as much, but the Simpsons. I never

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was really into those kind of shows. Yeah, I get like a want
like I don't know it. Yeah, where everything was Archer I was the
only one that was the only oneI could ever really sit down and watch.
See that means y'all didn't y'all didn'tknow about like eon flux, Yeah,
stuff like that, because I thinkI think both of you all,

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both of you might really like aflux. And just because he's like he's
a strong like independent woman's strong,said she. I was like, here'
she s he's a little congested rightnow because she is a strong independent woman

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until he fights and like she kickseverybody's behind and like the opening of it
is just really really really nice soI enjoyed it growing up. Because this
is like mid nineties earlier. I'vealways been more of an anime person when
it came to animated cartoon. Oh, we're going to get into that because

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I'm looking at your Pokemon collection behindyou. That's not all Pokemon I like.
Plus sir, I thought that wasgiggly Puff. That's just a cat.
Oh yeah, that kind of doeslook like gigg Puff. It's it's
just a cat. Well, okay, I've been sadly mistaken. I didn't

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grow up watching Pokemon. It waslike I love anime, like I have
anime watch sessons at my crib andwe sit back and just literally just watch
anime like we did like too.So like I love anime and I never
really got into Pokemon, like Ilove the thing song. Yeah, I

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liked Pokemon like when I was younger, and then I think that's what got
me into like anime, like actuallike cool anime, not just Pokemon and
all, but like Pokemon was likemy gateway anime. What anime do you
watch now? Like? What type? I? Okay, so I haven't.
I don't really know what my favoriteis. I like rom Com It's

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my guilty pleasure. But like Ilike a lot of like the sci fi
kind of stuff too, but Idon't like a lot of action, right,
Okay, So it's like it's likea kind of all over the place
with it. I like Chainsawman,got Pushita over there. I like uh,
my Family just it was my favoritelike anime probably the Full Time cho

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Bits is like a brom com.You know, There's so many that I
like, So I can't really saywhat my favorite is, but I think
I lean either rom com or scifi. See, I can I get
judged because I really enjoy watching Spitesof Life and I really enjoy watching harems.
Yeah, and those like I meanI would I can throw in like

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this anime and this anime here andthere, but like those a lot of
I love. So me off fora second, like what are you talking
about? Like, so, yeah, I love like those type of animes
because I know, I just forcedher to watch this anime about this guy

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like that was doomed it to geta hundred girlfriends and if he doesn't date
them, if he doesn't date them, they'll die, Oh my god.
Yeah, it's like, yeah,they make fun of that like them themselves
and the anime make fun of thewhole anime. Yeah. Oh yeah,
I've heard of those kind of animalswhere they make fun of the anime in

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the anime. Yah. Yeah,so I like stuff like that. And
yeah, of course I got intoanime via because of Dragon Ball Z.
Mmmm See. I can never getinto Dragon Ball Z or like Bleach or
Naruto. There's just too many episodes, too many I can't commit, and
then I get bored. I getbored so fast. That's why I can't

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get into like Naruto, Boroto andall these other ones because of the episode.
Because I started watching Dragon Ball tosee in the nineties, so it
was they were still coming up withnew episodes at the like, well think
that back it was on TV moreoften. Yeah, and I watched it
as a child compared to trying towatch it now. Like I think the

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longest anime that I watched now isis It Rolling to pick Up a Girl
in the Dungeon? Oh? Ilove that one. I think Death Know
is probably my longest one. Ithink I've never watched Death Note. Oh
my god, it's so good.It's an old man one. It's old,
but it's good. It's on myit's on my to do list.
Yeah, it's like, uh,I think one of the first like animes.
I seriously was like, oh,I really like this. So that's

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when I think, like, likethe sci fi is like kind of a
thing for me, but I don'tlike a lot of action either, Like
Chainsaw Man is like as far asI'll go in terms of like action,
and mind you some of them,for example, like one Piece, like
they kind of like over extend likethings, and you're just like okay,
and then the reach half is likehalf of the episode. Yeah, and

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then they or they go and they'lltalk about like each person's background and this
and that. I'm like, Ithought you already told us that, you
know. Yeah, it feels likea lot of empty, wasted episodes.
Mm hmm exactly. After a while, I was like, all right,
no, I'll get back to iteventually. Honestly, I'm kind of think
of what sci fi ones I triedto watch. They have a near Automati

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actually like the it was a game. I mean it is a game,
but it was a game first,and then they turned into an anime last
year, and that's a really goodsci fi wan that I like right now.
Okay, but I tried to watcha Parasite, but I couldn't get
into it. Oh that was Idon't think I don't think I've seen that

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one was pretty cool. You mightreally like recreators because the sci fi is
a little action. But basically theanimal is about like someone who writes,
Like, for example, like y'allwe are we are in the real world
and let's say we all like drewcharacters and made it, uh, you

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know, we brought characters to lifewhatever anime form. But something happened in
the world that made the characters comeout into the real world. And the
thing is they discover that somebody wrotetheir story. If they didn't like the
story, they want to kill thisis This is like it seems like it's

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too much to like think about.Well no, no, it's basically like
they come out into the real worldand some are upset that they you know,
did something wrong to them in theirstory and they want to kill their
creator. Mm hmm. It seemslike so complicated, like so many different
layers, right, Well, it'sjust explaining it's that, but like there's

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a story inside of this world andthese people. I was like, what,
Oh, it's just like we weget introduced to their story. But
then but then, like, doyou watch double sub dub? Actually,
so if there's no dub of it, I will not watch it just because
like I can get distracted so easilyand like actually sitting there and reading.
I'm usually a subtitled person in general, but when it comes to anime dub,

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see, I prefer dub because I'musually always working and I'm like,
I cannot put my full attention ontoit. Yeah, exactly is a sub.
That's why I asked that, becausethey don't they don't want to make
a dub, and it pisses meoff. I know, I know there's
like such like a negative connotation topeople who only watched dub. And I

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used to watch SUTH like when Iwas a kid, right when I was
younger, when I could just sitin front of a computer and just read
the translation. But nowadays, I'mlike, I can't do that. I
don't have like the attention span actuallyto just sit there and read. I
need I need dub. I'm adub person all the way. It's like
decades saying that I would never wentdecades a long time tan that I would

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not watch the sub because of myattentions, man, And it was because
I watched that anime that did nothave a dub for the season three,
and I read the manga because Iwas so pissed off about it. And
I'm like, Okay, I amgoing to sit back and watch the sub
of this anime just so I can, you know, at least end the

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story. Yeah, And I wasso pissed off about it, Like this
anime I watched season one is dubbed, season three is dub but season two
they didn't, you know, bythe time to you know, And I'm
like, that's so weird. Yeah, as I'm trying to enjoy this,

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I feel like more adults watch dub. Thank Yeah, that's why. That's
what I'm realizing a lot of time, a lot of like times these days
when I talk about anime with adultsor like yeah, dub dub dub,
no shame, no shame for thedugs. I feel like a lot of
us just like part we're busy,we're wealthy, exactly. We grew up
being multitaskers, you know, whereit's like you can do two things at

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once, do it, you know, like watch reading, but reading like
a TV show while you're trying todo something else, then you're not focusing
on like the actual the story,right. I'm like, then it feels
like I'm just wasting my time,wasting my energy trying to half ass watching
a show exactly because there's like,good, are so many shows that I
watched while while I'm editing videos thatlike I'm like, okay, I can

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listen to this video, just listento this awesome anime and on my editing
of this video or picture whatever,and I like, for those, I
just got to pay attention, LikeOkay, I only understand like five words
in the jap means language. Yeah, and that's it, Like okay,
also reading, Oh wait, Iwas gonna say, reading another language,

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but we're not reading it in Japanese. But reading another language that you don't
understand, that you barely understand ispretty much impossible. It's easier to know
and speak a language than to readusually, but we get through subtitles.
So I was about to just saysomething that made no sense. It's like,
how can you read if you can'tspeak it. I don't say something

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stupid. Yeah, I realized Iwas like that was stupid, Like I
know, I know one of myfriends, like they use the they listened
to it in sub but they havethe Japanese subtitles so they can unders so
they can learn how to read theread the language. Nice. Sounds difficult.

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That's too much. That sounds difficultto do while you're trying to enjoy
a show. Yeah, I've heard. I've heard a lot of people do
learn Japanese three anime, but tolike be able to read it. I
barely can understand English sometimes. Butyou have to do cosplay though, too.

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Yeah. I just did a bunchof costplays like two days ago.
Actually, like do tell Yeah,well, say what you can say without
spoiling anything for your fans that arecoming up. Well, I've already posted
things that I've already done, well, like and the ones that I did
the other day. I've already posteda little bit. Okay, so I

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don't really have anything that I'm keepingsecret. Maybe I won't say what I
plan on doing, Okay, Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, we got
to keep your your faithful subjects,you know, your hateful fans and suspense.
Yeah. Well, I started outdoing costlay. Before I got into
the industry, like the mainstream industry. I was doing like I did zero

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two from Darling and the Franks.Oh, it's a good animal like that
one. It gets stupid at theend though, Zero two from Darling and
the Franks. What else is therethat I did? I did Shiro from
No Game, No Life. Idid. These are like before I got
into Born. Those are like thetwo big ones that I did. Oh,

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oh my god, what's what's what'sher name? From Super Spash Bros.
Well, I mean the other gamebefore Supersmash Bros. The blonde and
the blue suit. What's her name? No? No, she'sn't Orange.
No, she's not orange. Shecame out to the other game Orange.

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It'll come to me. I'm gonnalook it up. But and then recently,
like I've been doing more like Idid Mebane, I did Lucy from
Cyberpunk Edge Runners. I also didRebecca. I also did Rebecca. What
else have I done? And thenrecently, like a few days ago,
I did Alice the Nikki from Goddessa Victory and Near not near to be

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from Near Automata and what I I'vealso done Power I haven't done. No,
it's not her name. I haveno idea that Super Slash Bros.
Hold on. I'm like, it'slike, it's like an old old character.
I put that in or Luciana.Mm hmmm, I put a blue

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character, but I forget I forgether name because she's from like an older
game. M And you said shewears blue. Yeah, it's like a
blue skin tight Wait zero suit Samus, oh, zero zero suit Samus.
Okay, so that one also usedto her wearing orange. Well, I

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love her. Who else? Ithink that's it that I can think of
inside now. I love No Life. Yeah, it's a good anime.
I really really. I think Iforced her to watch it because that's another
game. There's another game that cameout recently that reminds me of it a

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lot. It's called a Liar Liarand it's similar to it. But yeah,
I think to look at all yourconflicts definitely. Yeah, because a
lot of the old ones, Ijust don't really post them as much anymore
because I feel like I could redoit, I could do it better,
and they're mainly on like my onlyfans and stuff, not so much on

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the internet. Also, I looklike a completely different person, and I
feel like when I start to likenot look like a certain time in my
life, I start being like,Okay, we're going to push that away.
We don't need to lose that,right, that's just me. I
started to be like, oh yeah, I do that. I do that.
I do post throwbacks on my story, but I'm not really like I
don't know because I'm like I hadlike really bad botoks to my eyebrows,

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like we're not cute. They werelike they were just a little crazy,
And then I was I was platinumblonde, right, I was platinum blonde.
So I kind of looked super washedout when you saw me, like
without like a wig on or something. So I just nowadays, looking back,
I'm like, we don't need tolook at that. I mean,
like, I think that majority ofpeople who like when they first started doing

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cosplays or they look back and theydang, I get it. Did that
one better? Yeah, that's wherethey got this. Like I definitely want
to do another zero too, forsure. You know. One of the
things I'm actually in the mood todo is like an entire costlay of like
Disney princesses. That's cute. OhI did. I did streat Fighter too.

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I did Street Fighter. Yeah,content and the content I shot actually,
yeah, I can definitely see youlike you as a CAMMI. Yeah.
I also cosplay Hammy, Oh mygod, it's all coming back to
me cam Me in a VR scene, and then I also cosplayed bow Set
in another VR scene. Woo.I love vrs like you get so into

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it? Yeah I do. Imean, you know, you know,
you know you are you know aaward winning VR person, Yes I am.
I won Best VR for twenty twentytwo. I couldn't remember what a
year were in. I couldn't rememberwhat year you want to Well, I
didn't you want it in twenty three, but I won twenty twenty two,

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Like it says twenty I think,I think it's twenty twenty three. Let
me go, let me go.I'm I go grab my you wanted in
January twenty three, but it wasfor work you did in twenty two.
Yes, but I don't know whatit says on the actual trophy. Let
me see, let me go,get no idea he's want to go grab
her a van? But yeah,like, uh no, gave no life

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with the amy. I may watchwhen they went to that other world.
Yeah that was fun. Okay,so it says twenty twenty three. Okay,
Yeah, I was like, whatdoes it even say on it?
Nice? Yeah? Last year?Yes, yeah, yeah, yes,

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that was a crazy scene that wasfifteen girls. It was actually actually a
really crazy day. It was justlike amazing about fifteen girls and one VR
scene, right, yeah, that'slike how many was it? Because I've
never phraised this correctly. I've hadthose things going on, and it was

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just two girls edit and it waslike one male person was just one male
person like that was that they're stimulatingor is it just I don't know how
explaining this I'm trying to say.So, it's usually only one person behind
the VR, like the VR body, like the person who's to stand in
for the viewer. Yeah, it'susually that was usually one person because you're

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not because you're not you're not wherelike you you can't wear I don't know,
it's it's usually just one person wearingthe god I said it in the
sense of like, you know,like you're in the rule with somebody else
and it's fifteen females with you.But I would even if it's VR,
I would feel kind of intimidated becauseno, it was scary actually I watched

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it. I would be scared todeath if I had fifteen girls like all
like moaning in front of you,like kind of like zombies, Like oh,
like fifteen of them just filled upthe Like It's like I would be
like, am I about to dieright now? Are they about to sacrifice
me? I'm like because like wheneverI watch VR scene have them, Yeah,

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whenever I watched VR scenes, I'mlike because I watch them because I'm
like I need to see what itlooks like, and it to me,
I think it's very disorienting. It'svery kind of like scary because I'm like
there were like in their faces likewhen you I like, get back up,
kid off of me. I knowbecause I've done some and they have

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you be like this close to thelike I don't know if they want that.
I don't know if they want that. I don't are some people who
really really do love it mm hmm. The producers like always ask for it
and you're just like super close likeoh yeah, daddy, and I'm like
yeah, and they really it,like like come like they could probably see

(32:28):
my visil line writing exactly my mouthbecause I was I would SA at X
three because I've only I've only beenlike looked at VIA one and like the
person like they just put on arandom scene. So I'm at X three
and they put on a random sceneand one of the girls they had in

(32:49):
the in the scene was a reallygood friend at the time, so WO
feel kind of weird trying to likenot look at that person look at the
other person because I'm like, okay, I'm not trying to look at this
individual because they were because at thetime they were messing with my friend.
So it was kind of like likelike dating outside dating people and it's like,

(33:14):
Okay, let me ignore this personand try to watch this person while
this person is on the the kneeof the knee of this one. Yeah,
it could be intimidating, like kindof scary. I think, like
overstimulating for me too, because it'slike the sound and like it's I don't
know, I know for me asa porn fan, it's not VR for

(33:37):
me, and that's unfortunate because it'sactually really cool, like I could really
admire it, but I think asa viewer it's like, oh my god,
I can't do that. Well.I understand that they want you to
be, you know, inside ofit, but that and that's why I'm
glad they don't show like the membran, the member and stuff like that,
because you know this song that woulddefinitely take some people out of it.

(34:00):
Yeah. Yeah, because yeah,a lot of the time when you shoot,
if you are, they're like,we don't care if we don't see
penetration, We just want to seeyour face and over the penetration. Yeah,
because like mainly what they're trying todo is come of like because you
think is you don't want to lookdown and see, you know, the
man's penis while you're trying to pretendit's you having sex with the girl on

(34:22):
top of you or whoever is likestraddling the the person, and it's kind
of like okay, uh, youknow some people are going to be jerking
whatever. Yeah, watch it andthey come while like W's is still going
like yeah you like this, daddy, and it's like no, I already
already came, and you're still going. I mean, they do like the

(34:46):
penetration sometimes, Like I think it'smore so like if they're really trying to
focus on like a very intimate typeof thing and then like they want you
like in their face and I'm like, oh my god, Like the new
standing mish that they got going onright now, I'm like, who is
doing that? Who was doing that? No, judge, who was doing
that? Let me know, callme if you're doing standing dish at home,

(35:07):
because what I like, it's justlike like I'm like, we're standing
and your your dick is somehow supposedto be inside me, but we're standing.
I'm gonna say, especially when you'refirstually challenged, right, okay,
I'm gonna I'm gonna say this,and back back in my back, in
my uh not none injury days,my favorite position was it's called the crane.

(35:31):
The crane, the crane, andbasically it's just like the person's lege.
It's like right here and you're havingsex with them, just like no,
no, no, we can't dothat in VR because then that makes
one like like look like well,I'm just saying yeah, and like like
so that's that's basically standing missionary whatever. And I used to that used to
be my favorite. You gotta bemy signare my signature move, and then

(35:55):
I got old and crippled and nowI can't do that anymore. Yea,
and but yeah, so I wasone of the ones who used to enjoy
standing mish well, the standing showwe're doing is like all four legs are
on the ground. You're just like, oh no, and then the dick

(36:16):
is somehow inside of you unless unlessyou have they can't pick and they can't
pick me up in those scenes becauselike that takes away from the the fantasy,
right and then like also like Idon't know the guy, Like they're
not supposed to hear the guy breathingat all, so like picking like they
would have to be like grutting andbreathing probably so they don't allow us to

(36:37):
be picked up or have a legup usually like we're usually just all four
feet planted on the ground. Andsomehow that's supposed to be the best position
these days because everybody's dick comes toit like comes up to a also vertically
challenged right, Well, I'm sosure, I'm so sure you're for Oh

(36:59):
yeah, I'm so short. Iactually had some when I was shooting in
Europe. One of the companies Iwas shooting for, they really really wanted
this. It was at VR,it was just a normal scene. They
really really really wanted me to doa standing doggie with one leg up because
it was like a yoga scene andnormally I could do that, but my

(37:19):
male talent was probably like six something, and it just did not work.
Like we tried, and I waslike, I was like I don't usually
like say hey, I can't dothis, but that was the time when
I was like, I cannot dothis. We need to do something.
They won't even give me like anythingto stand on, like They're like,
no, we just want to andI was like, well, this is
not going to work. You're goingto rip me in half and then I'm
gonna have to like leave forward exactly, like because his dick was like but

(37:44):
to my head almost and they wantedus standing yeah, and I was like,
this is not going to work.I mean like he was trying to
like lower himself and then I'm standingon one foot by the way, because
I had one one of my feetup. Yeah. It was just very
very difficult, like doing that inyoga but not in like real life sex
and like yeah, like yeah,like having a big dick from a six

(38:07):
something foot tall man and me,because that's one of the day about porn.
It doesn't matter how tall you are. They always always try to find
a guy who's a lot taller thanyou. Yeah, and a lot of
people. I think, I thinkit's really hard to see, uh,
the struggle like imporn, right,Like people don't realize it. They don't
realize like height can actually play abig difference in things, and like a

(38:31):
lot of people don't. You're tinytoo, so it's they just they just
want you to get like someone justto go through you all the way.
Yeah, they want they want me. Yeah, sometimes you have been doing
the most crazy things. How Igot asked to do a writing split and
I was like, no, ohI can do that. I can't do
it. I really yeah, I'mlike I can't do I don't have like

(38:53):
the body strength to do that.And then also so they can see penetration,
like I'm so little, Like Ijust it just it just would work.
Yeah, I want to say partiallyit's about how you move your hips.
But yeah, you have to havekind of like not necessarily upper body
strength, but you're using a lotof core for that, and obviously your

(39:14):
your flex your legs are have tobe flexed, like yeah, and like
you're trying to look hot on camera. You're not trying to hot like big
belly, but you're like you're tryingto show yourself straining, like yeah,
I'm going I'm going down, andthey're not gonna show. I'm pretend I'm
enjoying this in some capacity and I'mworking every muscle in my body. Yes,

(39:37):
exactly, exactly. And that's oneof the things where I'm just like,
you guys don't even realize how hardthis is. Like, yeah,
think of it. You see maybewhat it ends up being a twenty twenty
five minute video. We're not therefor twenty five minutes. We're there for
hours. Yeah, it's being likewe're athletes essentially, and it's just like

(39:58):
I'm trying to ride and not grunt. Well I'm still moaning. Yeah,
Like it's okay for the guy togrunt, but the girl can't be like
like like writing hard as part aswe can be like oh my god,
damns so good when you're running outof breath and everything. Yeah, they

(40:19):
hit too deep in a certain spotyou're like, oh man, that happens.
I'm like, ah, yeah,I know people like watching that,
but I'm just like, you don'trealize that hurts broken, Yeah, and
it's not that's not realistic, andyou know it's like and it's like it's
like I love peorn. I love. I love like the creativeness of it
actually, and I like, Ijust like poorn, Like it's cool as

(40:40):
fuck, right, but it doessometimes feed into like a weird like expectation
for some people, like there issomebody that I'm seeing right now and he
oh, he was like, hewas like, I probably don't compare to
all the really good sex you haveon camera, and I was like,
first off, it's on camera.That's like completely different. I like,

(41:04):
because he got he got like alittle like insecure about like sex. Like
he was just like he was like, I hope, like you're not gonna
think I'm like a disappointing partner,and that wasn't the case at all at
all, right, but he thinkslike people think though, like that's such
good sex. See for the mostpart, it is, for the most
part of it is, but it'svery difficult good sex. I will say,
when I first started doing anything inthe industry or whatever, and like

(41:30):
I was looking at people who Icame in contact with and I know who
were active then and whatever. I'mlike, I like, I like,
I'm okay with what I have whatever, but it's kind of like I propably
can't make you make those sounds,and that's what I You probably don't want
to those, but those sounds aren'treally remember that, yeah, but you

(41:52):
remember like when I, like Istarted doing stuff around his industry in two
thousand and eight. Yeah, solike I'm coming straight off of like being
an avid viewer being then coming intothis world like oh my god, uh,
this is this person who I usedto watch a lot. Now I

(42:13):
know about your family life and Iprobably can't watch it now. And it's
kind of like I can be ifyou if you do girl, girl,
only I can mess with you becauseI don't got to see something that I
can't compare to. It be timeto say, okay, it doesn't matter.
Yeah, it's not for everybody.Yeah, I can admit that.

(42:36):
But the thing is, it's likepeople don't understand, like, like you
know, this is theater compared towhat's actually going on, because some girls,
like some people in the industry don'teven want that in their home life
because like it's it's what they whatthey call work dick compared to boyfriend dick.

(42:58):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, becausein regular life, I love missionary,
you know, put my legs allthe way up in the air type
of mish, but like as faras like in porn life goes I love
Doggie, you know, like it'sit's two different things because the thing is
like Missionary is so like intimate inregular life, and the thing is in

(43:24):
porn like missionary a lot of timesyou're just looking at the camera if it's
like POV so it's like super closeto you and you're just like yeah,
or the guys trying to bottom youout because that's how deep into you on
You're like, please don't do that. Yeah. I end up putting my
hand like or my palm like towardstheir like guighs or whatever, kind of

(43:46):
pushing them back. So I'm like, okay, you can only go that
far, dude. Yeah, Iknow you're a lot smaller than me,
but like I'm five to one,and I'm like, dude, I don't
think you realize, like where isthat gonna go? Yeah? I have
I don't have a problem actually withlike super big digs, like like it's
big digs like in my pussy.Actually that I'm like, that's where I

(44:07):
kind of struggle. I would saystruggle lightly because I haven't actually struggled.
I'd take a dread like I didnot. When I say struggle, I
say like it takes I feel likemore warming up where it's like anal.
I'm finding I can take bigger dicksand something that's like super fascinating to me.
So now I'm like, I'm reallysaying what positions, especially for a

(44:29):
camera like feel better like pussy andass right. It's it's very interesting because
like I also know what like adifference between every person. We're all built
different. So it's like it's sofascinating me because I'm like, I didn't
know these things until I started shootingwith like bigger, bigger dicks, and
I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, this is easier. I
actually prefer it well because I thinkalso like you know, the pussy actually

(44:52):
has an end, you know,and anal like work, you know,
intestine is going on, girl likeyeah, going, so you can someone
can take a dread up all theway up there, but and you know

(45:12):
they can't take a dread all theway up there vagina because it's physically impossible
to the hospital, you know,the one try to be in a wheelchair,
you know. So that's how Iam at least because for example,
I have the copper iu D soit's not hormonal. So mind you if
you if you hit it hard enough, you will feel it, you know,

(45:36):
like so in there you will feelthat ship. Some guys have gotten
looky like stabbed. I'm like,I warned you, Yeah, don't go
straight in. Go in and kindof like around and find a buck you
know, like either curve up orkind of curve to the left type of
thing, because for me, it'slike it settles in like one side.

(45:59):
For me, it settles like towardsthis side, so they have to angle
it this way. Interesting. Yeah, But for example, in my pussy
I can probably take I'd say aboutlike seven eight inches comfortably. But then
in my ass I've taken like whatwas it, the biggest was like twelve

(46:19):
thirteen inches. Yeah, I feellike it's so much easier. Yeah,
exactly. I was able to takeit like easily, nicely. It was
fun versus like if I'm trying togo ham with a pussy up, Oh
my god, Yeah, you getsore so fast and the thing is having
an iud I end up having crampedafterwards. So it's one of those things.

(46:40):
I'm like, Okay, guys likeit was fun. Now just wait
twenty thirty minutes, I'm gonna becramping. Okay, yeah, vers with
like that's why sometimes if it's bigand I'm like all right, just fuck
my ass, you know, likelike I'm not worried about fram nothing.
Put it in my ass. Iput it in my ass. I know

(47:07):
nothing about I say a lot inmy my scenes, I say put in
my ass, like my anal scenes, Like that phrase is just like my
put it in my ass. Yeah. Yeah, I've noticed that lately.
I'm like, put it in mybecause I want it, Like it's so
funny. I realized that in allmy anal scenes have the same like kind

(47:28):
of Braddy needy like put it inmy ass. Yeah, and then you're
like yeah, yeah, m hmmm. I love doing that. It makes
it so much fun because mind you, at that point, you're not just
taking it. You're like I feellike I feel like I have some kind
of control, which I do always, but like I feel like I'm like,

(47:51):
I don't know, I feel like, yeah, I feel like the
paradynamic for me at least like anal, like it's kind of shifts for me.
I start being like, this ismy dick because I want it in
my as I I say this withno disrespect, but I feel a lot
of people who are short like lovethat dominant role sometimes yeah, directing,

(48:12):
like in the sex things, I'llset it here now you know, it's
like okay, yeah yeah yeah.Also, I think it's really attractive when
the like the bottom i'll say bottomfor gender equality. Then the bottom is
like yeah, I need you tolike do this like it's like it's like
showing like enthusiasm, and I thinkthat's super hot. It doesn't matter like

(48:36):
I mean, I guess it's alsofrom like a tiny girl like me,
Like that's super hot. I thinka lot of people are like, ooh,
I like that, you know,like sex demon. That was my
my zoom name on my phone versusmy computer. Yeah that's what That's what
we were like when you came inearlier. We had joked about I say,
I love that her name said sexdemon. Yeah that's what my phone

(48:57):
is, Like you know how youcan name your phone. Yeah yeah,
that's when I broke what I said. I had jokingly made my name one
here it says Sarah Lates' personal yeah, personal servant, And I was joking
about that. I love that sadsex stment. Yeah, that's what I
like to be on camera sometimes mostof the time, actually not sometimes,
but I love doing it where youwalk in and get those like innocent vibes,

(49:22):
you know, and then all ofa sudden you're like yeah, sometimes
where the producers like look at eachother and they're like, she's gonna be
able to do it? She lookssuper shy, and then once it's like
damn, yeah that's what happened.Who who is this monster? And like,

(49:44):
you know, yeah, where'd youcome from? Exactly. I've actually
had them asked me that, likeat the end of the scene, they're
like, whoa where did that comefrom? Like what I was like,
don judge a book by its cover. I'm like, that's that's Sarah Lake.
Guys, your girl, Like that'sme exactly. I love doing shit

(50:07):
like that, just essentially, Likeobviously, when you do enough scenes like
that, people are like expecting it, but it's like it still gives you
that like almost like yeah, anego boost of like that. Yeah.
No, yeah, absolutely, LikeThat's how it was actually in Europe for

(50:29):
me. So when I shot inEurope, a lot of companies did not
really know me that well, right, and so they were kind of taking
a chance on an American girl,which I think we kind of get a
rep over there from being divas.So I was already going in with them
thinking that I was going to bea diva. And then they also didn't
know like how I guess comfortable andgood I was on camera. And then

(50:52):
also I speak really good English,and apparently that's an issue over there.
They have a hard time getting peoplethat speak fluent English to talk in their
scenes. Like it's like pulling teeth, like it's very hard. So when
I came in and I like showedthese companies like what I was about,
they were like, how long areyou here? When can I book you
again? Like like we love youor like like through the energy we need.

(51:12):
And then but I was completely bookedup for a whole month, and
I already had companies trying to likebe like you need to come back soon.
And it's because they were so surprisedI was checking all their boxes,
right, and that felt really goodstuff Like it's kind of like an ego
boost, right to like realize that, wow, yeah, I made these
people made their jaws drop to thefloor exactly. I can't really doubt you.

(51:36):
So I'm like, uh, likeyou just left them there last month,
right, Yeah, I was therethe entire month of February. Okay,
where do you go? Necklet knowyou are supposed to leave soon,
and again I'm not really leaving.Well, I don't really count going to
Vegas as leaving soon because I oh, I'm actually featuring in Vegas. But

(51:59):
I'm going to ex Is Miami.But like, I don't have any international
plans actually plan books right now.I am thinking probably going back to Europe
though in the summer, one ofthe summer months, probably July. I
feel like a little bit of timeto miss you, but not enough time
to forget. Yeah. Also,also i plan on going to Tomorrowland,

(52:22):
so I'm already going to be inthat like side of the world. So
I'm thinking book all my work forthe first three weeks of July and then
go to Tomorrowland and then the Raves. Yes, it's the biggest one in
like the world. I heard aboutthem. I don't Tomorrowland. It's in
Belgium. One of my one ofmy friends is really really really really in
the race, and like they don'tmiss it, miss any of them really

(52:45):
and like my previous my previous cohost, they go to a lot of
they don't go out the country,but they go to the lot in in
La oh yeah l a h yeah, at least the biggest I think in
the country for raves music in general, music in general, I mean,
aside from electronics. But the thingis, it is like I you know,

(53:08):
even even in my yester years,I don't I don't think I do
enough narcotics to really enjoy the stuffthat I hear that goes on at the
raves. Now, there's a lotof sober ravers, right, and like
I mean, I had my fairshare of molly munching when I was younger,
but I think a lot of peopleusually grow out of it. If

(53:30):
there I don't know if they're headson street right all my friends, I
know, like we don't really touchMDMA anymore. Well, I'm not saying
you have to do it, butlike every time I hear someone like yeah
I got I got me some uhsome X, I'm about to go up
here is probably math y and thenlike you hear from them three days later,

(53:51):
yeah we we uh we we justcamped out on the ground, you
know, or like or like yeah, I got I've ruled with some red
random person we went there. Wejust yes, It's like, yeah,
you know, we saved a lotof money just rubling with this random person
good old time. It's like there'ssome people that kind of they take it

(54:12):
to extremes because that's that's what they'recomfortable doing. I think they're just comfortable
doing that in general, Whereas forme, like I don't go the extreme
route. I'm like I usually likeknow who I'm going with, like it'll
be friends and then book everything,plan everything. I'm not a camper anymore.
I do not camp with no atall in general, Right, I
just don't do that and s forme. So some people works out for

(54:34):
some people, does it. I'min I am, I'm in this this
Legal Legends group. But they allgo to raise and so like they picked
costumes to wear to it, andI remember they tear the costume that the
girls and the dudes all went therewearing like made costumes every day. Oh

(54:55):
my god. It's it was likeit looked kind of kind of funny because
some of the because some of thedudes they were they were really like stocky
dudes and they were any little littletight, little tight, small made outfits
like and they we were just laughingabout like how you know what they what

(55:15):
they were forced what they were forcedto wear as they said they weren't they
wanted to they wanted Yeah, butlike it looked like they had fun.
But like I don't think my earscould take it. Yeah, like I
have, I have really shot hearing. It's not but I don't have like
tonightice. But I mean I dowear ear plugs. But you know,

(55:36):
in the earlier days, when Iwas a Molly Buncher, I did not
wear ear plugs, and unfortunately,it does affect your hearing. And that's
why I'm a big advocate for likeearplugs at any loud event. Actually I
think I think at a v andI think I actually wore because I always
have earplugs in my purse because I'vestarted to realize there's a lot of places
like events and like award shows,like rapes, like I don't even know

(55:57):
what even thinking, like some placesare just so loud and that affects your
hearing. And I am I aman advocate for ear plugs. I keep
them in my person. I'm prettysure I did wear them at Avien like
they may be Award show. Itwas so loud. Yeah, I like
that because the thing is like,besides it being loud, it's like you
get overstimulated as well. And sofor me sometimes it's like if I get

(56:20):
too overstimulated, I'm like at thepoint where I'm like near a panic attack
where I need someone to kind oflike calm me down, kind of put
me in a corner, like okay, step like step away from the action.
I kind of just relax a littlebit. Yeah, when you first
get there, even till it's likebooming, like you're like, whoa,
there's so much going on, somany people on this and that I like,

(56:45):
okay, anytime like to take astep back and just freathe. That's
why I'm I'm I'm always somebody thathas my earplugs in my purse. I
have I have earplugs over my Bravebag and also for my purse because just
popping those in and they're like thegood ones, right that you can hear
voice, but like it feels forsome voices, but it's not as loud,
like it just dumps everything down andit's so good. X three last

(57:07):
not this year, but last year, since I was taking pictures and they
had right in front, but thenthey put me right next to the damn
speaker. So I'm trying to recordwith Sea low Green last year. Yeah,
I remember that. I remember thatthat was so loud. I remember
that. I'm like, I leftbecause it was too loud. He was

(57:30):
I couldn't. I had to leave, like I was just I was like
it was just too much for me. It was too loud. I remember
that, and like I don't.I only go to two different award shows.
I've never been to a v Nor the X the X BIZ Awards
from l A. I've been tothe one in Miami, but never to

(57:51):
one in l A. And like, I can only like base my award
experience on x r CEO in UrbanNext Awards because of you know, as
far as loudness goes, well,at least when Urban Next I'm working the
show and I can I can arrangewhere I'm actually standing at and then with

(58:15):
the one I went to and justyou know, avoid the speaker. Yeah.
Yeah, actually this year I waspositioned. I was positioned under two
speakers. I remember because they ohmy god, oh my god, I
was so mad. I was likereally kind of like about to like ask
somebody to like turn off the speakerbecause they were doing like this cosplay contest

(58:36):
I think it X Ray and allthese girls just screaming, like like screaming,
and I was like, and itwas like right under Like I was
like, somebody needs to cut thatspeaker down because it was just like unbearable
to be around that. I waslike, I was like, I love
cost flight, but you girls needto shut up, right. It's like,
I get it. Did you geta chance to work any who won

(59:02):
because they were annoying me? ActuallyI did not. Why would I pay
attention to something where I'm like,please mute, there's a mute button.
I was. I was actually likeI had to be right in front for
that one. I was not.I was. I was just thinking,
turn it off, turn it off. It's so funny because I showed up
right at the end of it.Mind you, I had planned and tried

(59:23):
to get there, like so Icould do the costume contest or a costplay
contest. I was dressed up asPrincess Jasmine, but mind you, like
it took so long to do thehair because I actually put socks and like
the hair extension and everything. SoI did the braid, I did the
makeup and everything myself, and thenI had low key forgotten about LA traffic

(59:47):
and I was like, are youkidding me? Like yeah, I was
like, oh, at least theuber driver was still like sort of fast,
but he wasn't as fast as hecould have been. Know like,
yeah, there's something like dude,press it, step on it. I
will tip you and step one.Get out the driver's seat, let me
dry. And I was already there. I couldn't get read of lift.

(01:00:14):
Glad to be there when they opened, yeah, and I was like no,
like I'm sorry, I don't likeI need more time to do the
rest of my hair and makeup,you know. But he left, I
was like barely getting ready and Iwas like, oh no, this is
gonna take another couple of hours.Yeah, it took like five. It

(01:00:37):
took me like five hours to getready and I was like, oh ship,
but yeah, it was. Itwas ungodly loud in there. Oh
what it was? So it wasso cramp this year compared to last year
too, and you know what,I I hate that it's still there.
And you know what, my heartwas broken when I found out that they

(01:01:00):
have a contract therefore five more bears. I literally I was like, why
would you do that? They're literallynot giving them something anymore, and like,
yeah, barely fits. It wasthe second floor in uh on the
side where they didn't have the elevator, so it was kind of a struggle

(01:01:23):
for Roster to get up those stairs. You know. Yeah, I doesn't
even realize, like, first ofall, that one side of the theater
on the second floor is not disabilityfriendly, not at all, Like and
then on top of that, evenif we don't have a disability, we
have things we have to take upthere, you know, like a lot

(01:01:45):
of girls are wearing heels, andI don't know, I just I don't
like that. I don't want toexpect it to be all super sexy wearing
basically nothing with our heels and everything. But yeah, we still have all
this merch we have to bring upand everything. And I was like looking
around, like, luckily I havemy partner there, but I was like,
I was like, okay, Ineed some help getting this up.

(01:02:05):
Yeah, I don't want to helpme walk up there. Having an assistant
it was a game changer for meactually that like having like an assistant to
literally assist me change my life.I was like, now I can't do
it like otherwise, Like one ofmy friends thankfully lives in Miami, my
best friend actually she's not in anindustry, very grateful and she lives there
because I'm going to hire her gameassistant for the entire week of Exsus Miami

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because I realize I need that help. Otherwise I get freaked the fuck out,
Like I get I get so anxious, I get like so nervous.
I feel very like almost like vulnerableand exposed because I'm like visibly like not
having a good time, but I'mtrying to have a good time. And
then yeah, so having somebody totake that load off of you, Oh
my god helps so much. Mmhmm. I think it's always just harder

(01:02:51):
for like because like they keep tryingto add more and more sponsors. Yeah,
and when it was actually only supposedto be about the creators. Yeah,
And it's like I understand they needto have, you know, certain
sponsors there, but like when ittakes away from the performers that want to
be there, you know, andthe way that they said it wasn't supposed

(01:03:14):
to be free anymore. Then theymade it free for certain people. Yeah
that and you know, just keepmaking it more difficult. And I understand
it's a small earth venue, butthe thing is, because it's a smaller
venue, it limits you know.And thing is like I really hope that
as they do next year, thatthey like, you know, fix the

(01:03:36):
security or you know, because Isaid this last time, like I I
visually saw somebody you know as likebasically grab someone's butt whatever, and like
he turned around and yelled the dudeand like we told security you like kick
him. He just know the girl. The girl yelled at him, and

(01:04:00):
and then the security cable said was, okay, we'll keep an eye on
him. I really know you're gonnakick his ass out before I get you
fired. And that's that's all Idid. And it's like really like this
man like literally uh assaulted like likeyeah because she was she was one of
the she's a man stream port performer, but she was at the the webcam

(01:04:27):
webcam table. Yeah yeah, andhe just went by and went like and
grabbed a hole a whole handful andkept trying to keep on walking. Yeah,
ridiculous. It was like really likeyou don't see any you know,
like you shouldn't touch a performer unlessyou have consent before touching them. To

(01:04:50):
touch anybody lets you, Yeah,but I mean like convention, yes,
yes, I see, Like don'tdon't touch an anybody unless they say unless
you, like they let you needto tap them on their shoulder for something.
Yeah, but even then, likepeople, like some people, some
people can get very freaked out evenby that. I'm not me, but

(01:05:12):
like, like I know, likesome people like it's for them, it's
just like it's they can't handle liketouching. Like some people like feel like
just don't touch me, And Iask, she always ask. The thing
is to want to elbow somebody,like if they're coming behind me and kind
of tapping, or sometimes they'll actuallygrab your like your shoulder and kind of
like turn you a little bit.Yeah, it cans freaks some people out.

(01:05:33):
Yeah, it could cause like areaction exactly. But yeah, like
no, no, no, notouching unless they say you can touch Yeah,
exactly. I had a poorn performerfriend who like came up to me.
Mind d was at my booth thatone time, but like they came
up from behind and my partner hadalready seen them so he had given them

(01:05:57):
okay, but I didn't see them. They came in behind me. Oh
no, that was scary exactly todo the whole little cutty thing. And
I was like, I was literallya boy a beat that's happened to me,
Like I conventions really a friend.Yeah. I was like, oh
sorry, you know, because Iwould freak out and I was like,
oh my god, to see you. Yeah exactly. I thought I was
not to get killed. Mm hmm. Even I like like a lot of

(01:06:24):
people are still stand by and juststand there and it looks kind of creepy
because I'm just standing there waiting formy turn to get your attention, and
it's kind of like, okay,I wait a second, and I said,
hey, hey, wrong, youknow, like like like before this,

(01:06:46):
yeah, you don't have patience withsome of these fans. Unfortunately a
lot of them are not very sociallyLike it's like you could, you could
who's been there before and who hasn'tbeen there before, and some people that
don't understand like yeah, they arethere in person, but you know,

(01:07:11):
your your fantasy is your fantasy,and you just get the opportunity to meet
the person that you Yeah. Yeah, but that's it. You know,
you're they're they're not gonna they're notgoing to marry you. They're not gonna
be you like you know, dependingonly or they're not going to say okay,
yeah you're in person, now letme see your dick. Like fifty

(01:07:34):
times in my d MS, theystill don't want to see your dick,
you know, like you're you're thereto say, okay, can I please
have your your your your sticker andyou know, yeah take a picture like
that's like and if you and ifyou bring like uh fifty fifty pictures for

(01:07:59):
me this heart the sign. Ohno, okay getting out of my face,
Like no, don't don't try tolike impede on them trying to get
their autograph so you make a book. Yeah, yeah, it's so rude.
I have an issue at a lotof these conventions where people try and
pick me up because I'm tiny anda lot of my scenes right and it's

(01:08:21):
like I I I'm like I hateit. I'm like I whatever to the
girls like cool, get your getyour bag, like do whatever you want
to do. But like for me, like I will always have fans cout
and be like, oh my god, can I pick you up. When
I say no, no, no, They're like, well so and so
let me. I'm like, thenpick her up, go pick her up,

(01:08:42):
go pick her up again. It'sall about that. And I'm like,
if my feet are not touching theground, I get very very uncomfortable.
I'm going to be dropped. Idon't know. I'm just don't pick
me up. You know, peopleget dropped like right in front of my
face. So I'm like, yeah, no, you're not doing that to
me. Yeah. Will Pounder picksme up at a b because he because
like it was Will Pounder performer,right, yeah, I worked at them

(01:09:04):
because he was like oh because likethere was a a press there and he
was like kind of picking it fora picture. I was like yeah,
but now all these fans are goingto be like hate d up. And
I'm like he's a professional. Heand I've worked with him. He's before
that is Will Pounder. That's likeyou will those cool people. Yeah,

(01:09:25):
that's the like, hell let thempick up like only people I trust.
If that, If that, Iusually don't like being picked up. Yeah,
I mean I don't believe you becauseI mean, like one is like
it's what you are humanizing it canbe very dehumanizing. We're like, oh,
just like we're throwing around like adoll. I'm like, OK,
yeah, I mean especially because likewith things that will for you still get

(01:09:49):
put in and it makes it seemlike they're trying to, you know,
fantasize about that more because you knowthe steps whatever, and it's like no,
don't yeah consider yeah, but alsolike a pick up in a scene

(01:10:10):
doesn't mean you can't like yeah,literally, and it's like that it ties
in yet, like yeah, likewith the phow Step family thing. I've
been very vocal about that actually onmy social media about how I am not
shooting as much of that because I'vejust gotten so bored. And in my
opinion, if I am acting,it doesn't matter what kind of acting I'm
doing. If I'm doing the samething over and over and over, it's

(01:10:31):
a waste of time. It's awasted time. It's a waste of time.
Like you should always be trying todo something different, I think,
and like I'm just continuously doing thesame thing. It's gets redundant, it's
pouring. It makes me not reallyenjoy the scene as much, and I
feel like, yeah, like Ifeel like my talent and time are just
being wasted on the same thing.Sometimes you end up being more worried about

(01:10:53):
compliance than you do about the actuallife. Yeah, or like what I
really do start getting in it,they're like, oh, you can't say
that. I'm like exactly because atleast the one that I am is like,
sure, we'll stablish the scene first, like whatever, if it's step,
I'll make sure I say it atleast that one time when I'm closed.

(01:11:15):
But for me personally, I liketo say it at least one more
time when I'm undressed. Yeah,yeah, you know, like doing stuff
like that. And I have likeand they've come back and been like,
oh no, like, don't saythat, we already did compliance, And
I was like, well I wantto say it. I can. Yeah,
it was like compliance for me,bro, like I want to at

(01:11:36):
that point, like I'm already naked. I want to establish this for myself
like mentally so I can like yeah, I think it's totally valid and yeah,
like I said, like, it'sjust it's it could be super taxing
on some of the performers like doingthat same thing, and like some of
the companies are really pushing it andin Europe. Actually, one of the

(01:12:00):
directors showed me a list that hewas told he can't use it, like
words that they can't use the scenesanymore. Some of them are like uh
uh, like sorority, I know, I think so, yeah, I
think solty wasn't allowed. There waslike anything family, there was like uh,
I think baby wasn't allowed. Likethere were so many words that weren't
allowed because there are like payment processprocessors like cracking down, and there's so

(01:12:24):
many companies that are just kind ofare pushing the limit there. They're like,
like I believe there are so manythings that are still used that are
you know, just a little bittoo much, Like I don't, I
won't. I won't have any againstyou know, the sorority type thinking,
because you know, like they're like, that's a that's at least, you

(01:12:45):
know, at least eight at leaststudent. I think student was banned from
this company I was talking about toanything. I think anything that makes it
seem like either of the person's underthe age of end of the age of
Yeah, even though you might sayI just turned you're gotting the pigtails,

(01:13:08):
Oh I just turned eighteen. It'slike even though even though I know you're
like probably twenty three, twenty four. I'm twenty oh no, no,
no, I'm talking about that yeahperson. Yeah, And it's like,
yeah, I understand this person stilllooks younger, you know, but yeah,
and they don't want to be legal. Yeah, and they don't they

(01:13:31):
don't get put in there like inthe myth category too soon, you know.
And I just I think that there'sso many other scenarios, right,
Like there's so many other things thatwe could do. And I outlined that
once, Like I outlined it becausesomebody on Twitter like said something. They're
like, well, you know,like this is like the best thing,
like like I just love like theparadynamics, such a good story. Like

(01:13:51):
there's other things that you can doto get that same power dynamic, like
like I don't know, photographer,model crazy yeah, but hey, hey
it works like roommates or neighbors,no stuff like that, you know,
like for example, like you werea bad roommate, like I'm gonna thank
you or some shit like that,I'm gonna show you who's in charge.

(01:14:14):
Yeah, like stuff like that,like honestly like delivery and delivery guy,
and that's honestly a good one.No, I don't hate it or like
mechanic, like I don't hate handyman. You can make those like super
cool and like less cheesy even thoughthey are very cheesy. You can.
I think it's way better than infantizinglike a female performer. Yeah, and

(01:14:35):
I exactly like even when like Ishow people whatever and I have to come
up with scenarios, I try tomake sure it's at least like it makes
it makes it seem like you're atleast twenty one. Yeah, like,
oh, you just come back fromthe club with your friends, Like I
didn't, I know, I knowit was when that I recorded her doing

(01:14:55):
whatever that I made them like angels, so like like there are deities and
stuff like that, so I'd likethat's in my vision whatever because I don't
want. Yeah, I hate thewhole idea of messing with someone under like
underage. Yeah, it really bothersme. Yeah, it's like pushing me

(01:15:19):
out of like that category. LikeI only shoot those kind of videos nowadays.
If it's like for big, bigcompanies where I'm like okay, like
I will do this, but notlike I'm not taking every single one of
those bookings anymore. I'm like I'mjust tired of it, exactly. I'm
like, can I be something otherthan just your stepdaughter. That's why I
started doing anal actually, because doinganal is kind of put me in another

(01:15:42):
category. Not like I'm not milk, I buy any means, but it's
put me into like more of likea not a young girl category. If
I'm doing Yeah, I realized thatlevel you know, in between I call
it college aged. Yeah, youknow, now I'm college age. M
like like to think of it thatway, like not the whole barely legal,

(01:16:03):
but at least you're like college agetype of thing. Like one of
them I did, it was aslumber party, you know, but it
was like I told I told herit was a slumber party, but it
was just me and her, youknow. I was like, yeah,
see that's fine. You know,but at that point we never made it
like oh we're we're so and soaged, we're hiding from our parent like

(01:16:26):
stuff like that exactly. And it'slike, you know, like I know,
there's like I know, there speople that like it, so it's
not really shaving them. I justyou know, for us personally, like
a lot of us were starting tokind of step away from it. Yeah,
you really get tired of it.You know, if you're watching this,
for example, if you're watching thesame type of movie over and over
and over again, you get tiredof it. You know, for example,

(01:16:49):
those those Hallmark romances. It's thesame thing changed, but it's the
same storyline over and over again.I'm like, all right, I give
you something new. We were atmy house and like we were going down
the Netflix thinking and I'm like,this looks like the exact same, exact

(01:17:12):
same. It's like and like Ithink with me is like I'm really really
into a storyline. Yeah, andlike if the storyline just hits the point
of where it's weird, I can'twatch it. And because and because I
only watched for a movie. Yeah, I've turned off scenes because I got

(01:17:33):
taken out of it, and becauseI like, I only only watched Girl
Girl. We're talking that we're talkingabout like movies. You said it.
I was like, okay, Netflix, he said, like Netflix, and
that's why she said, like everythingis the same, and I'm like,
because of the scenes are set up, so yeah, I was like,

(01:17:57):
what, oh no, when itcomes to Netflix, I came like there's
so many rom times that are justIt's like it's like the Prince, the
Princess twin one, the Princes twintwo, Princess twin three, we found
another sister. Yeah, it's thesame thing, like I'm born. Like
it's like, like I said,I also feel like it can't be a

(01:18:18):
waste of energy and time and preciousreally good talented actors, right actors to
those actors, like it's it couldbe such a waste to be such a
drag water, is it down?Mm hmm exactly. It's like, come
on, give me something fun todo something, make me a challenge,
Give me a challenge. That's whatI want. I want to do something

(01:18:39):
new. I want to so different, right, I'm like, give me
a challenge. Like that's way betterthan the same thing over and over and
over again. Like this people can'tnectthough, it's not fine, then then
you don't cast them for the acting. That's fine. Like I know,
not all people can act, andlike Europe, a lot of people don't
speak good enough English to actually followdialogue and plots, so like I'm not

(01:19:02):
knocking that. Then you just don'tshoot those certain scenes, right, And
there's plenty of performers that are happyto always take on a challenge. Mm
hmmm, what fits you? Youknow, Yeah, there's plenty, Like
there's so many of us, Likeit's always like the same ones in the
features, but like they're like likeI'm like, I'm always happy to take
on a challenge. Like if Iif I get handed a thick script,

(01:19:24):
I might be like, Okay,how are we shoot? How are we
shooting this? I'm I are weshooting? Oh we're not taking it all
one take. They're like, no, We're gonna break it down. I'm
like, okay, awesome, let'sdo it. I got this, or
feel like, oh I need youto add lib. Got it. But
like if somebody is not good atthat, I mean, we're creating a
product at the end of the day, and sometimes you have to make that
decision, right, that business decision, Like do I want to take a

(01:19:44):
chance on somebody that I know isn'tgood at dialogue or should I hire somebody
that is good at dialogue can dothe scene? And I think, like
it's really important that, Like Ithink like producers like start to like really
think about that unless they want toproduce trash when there's already the competition with
only fans and stuff, like I'vebeen self producing my own scenes for my
own sites and Eve had fire andI'm surprised, like these companies haven't even

(01:20:10):
thought of this yet, but it'sbecause they're so you're doing the same thing
over and over and over was branchingout. There was a scene that I
heard you say you did. Ididn't see it, but I heard about
it in an ambulance. Yeah it'sambulance. I yeah, it's basically it's
a little bit cheesy gone z owhen the sex starts. So that's great.

(01:20:32):
It's all anal like I just Iput in so many random elements right
to make it funny. It haslike a funny, little cheesy like dialogue
part in the beginning. It's shotlike cough style, like documentary style,
and then we fucking the ambulance,Like I rented an actual ambulance, right,
and I had like a GoPro inone of the corners, so it

(01:20:55):
was like the security camera, sothere was that and then like the actual
professional camera and yeah, like that'sso cool, Like it's fun as fun.
It's different, and I mean Igenuinely had fun. It was a
oal too, and like I gotto have so much control over that,
and I was like, wow,I can't wait to see what no disrespect,
But there's a company that is goingto rip that off and they're not

(01:21:15):
going to realize how actually hard itwas. It was so hard, like
we had to like because like wecouldn't turn on the ambulance, couldn't have
a running and then trying to wirein the lights like like plug the lights
in right and using an ambulance likelike plugging them inside of the house.
And then there was also it wasreally hot, so we had to have
like a fan, like because itwas it wasn't summer, it was November.

(01:21:39):
Like the ambulance got really hot.We had to keep on like putting
the fan and to cool it down. Yeah, it was a challenge,
and I think, like, Iknow a company is probably gonna give it
a shot, and it's I Iknow how hard it was. I'm glad
I hired my a team that knowswhat they're doing, because it was it
was kind of a challenge. AndI like that though, right, Like
I like challenges exactly, but likethat's what makes it fun when you do

(01:22:05):
your own stuff. It gives youthe opportunity to do I have a free
for all of everything, like everythingthat's in your mind and can control it
compared to you know it' just hoppingon someone set and yeah they want sometimes.
And that's what I pointed out inmy tweet when I was like,
you know, like being able toproduce some of these really cool things,
it makes me excited. It makesme like proud, it makes me like

(01:22:27):
feel fire lit under me. Showingup to the same set every day,
that doesn't give me that feeling exactly. So what do you have coming up
that we should look forward to?Oh? Man, what do I have
coming up? Well, my costplayis play. Yeah, yeah, my
costplays. I have a bunch ofcostplays that are like like I filmed Solos,
I need to do another big production. I'm taking that up right now.

(01:22:50):
I haven't like, I just gotBA from Europe, so I wasn't
really like brainstorming. So right nowcostplay content is probably like at the forefront.
But I will have like something coolcome out, like Sambulance or like
the Catholic school thing that I did. The Catholic it was like a church
thing. I won't really call itCatholic school, but it was like it

(01:23:10):
was really vibe of like a Catholicschool student, but I never was like
a student. Was my priest thatcaught me and then we sucked in his
office, like like there's cool stufflike that, like you don't have to
be like, oh my god,my my Sunday school teacher. Yeah right,
but it was yeah, and likethere's like things that you can do,
right, and so I'm thinking ofa new one. I don't have

(01:23:31):
anything in mind yet, but Ineed to start watching some movies and get
info. That's usually how yet myinspo. I watched like actual like movies.
How could I turn this into abefore now? Like some of the
things is like they have like sexualinnuendos already and you're like, oh,
there you go. We could wecan turn and bam and now it's a

(01:23:54):
softcore video, you know something likethat, Like ooh, I can I
can make something real good at that? Yeah exactly. I told people I
kind of want to do like comedyporn for that aspect of like kind of
doing sort of a parody of something, but make it my own, you
know. Yeah, Yeah, it'scool as fine. Love. I love

(01:24:16):
doing stuff like that, and Iknow, like I told her that when
she gets back to LA. Igot a book that they that she could
use for a scene that I thinkthat would look really well, and like
it was it was just like youknow, just those random joke books.
It's I bought one because I haveI have an Amazon addiction and I just

(01:24:42):
buy stuff. There's worse things tobe addicted to it. It's kind of
I mean, like my addiction iskind of sad because like like I overhear
someone talking about like jello, andthen like randomly the next day you'll see
like twenty four k's of the jello. There's worse things you give you buying.

(01:25:04):
Yeah, as an example, it'sjust like I have a I have
a bad habit of Yeah, it'ssad, but it could always be worse,
That's what I like to say.And but I bought a book that
I think that she would really enjoythe front with because that's what I do
is I said, back by myfriend's stuff to use on their things.

(01:25:28):
Here you go have fun with that, and they walk away. Yeah,
but no where can anybody find you. I don't like, I don't want
to take too much of your time. So my Twitter is Haley Stades or
x I don't know. I'm Twitter. I'm saying Twitter, Twitter, I'm
not following the herd. There.Twitter is Haley Stades. Only fans is

(01:25:49):
Haley Stads. My Instagram is gamergirl Haley and those. Well, yeah,
this is the big three. That'sit. And her Twitch is that.
Oh yeah, my my twitch isNo, my twitch is Haley Spades,
game girl Haley. I'm on Twitch. I'm on Twitch, Twitter,
and Instagram probably the big three socialmedia for me. I'm on others,

(01:26:12):
but you could find the others.Like when I when I first was introduced
to Haley, it was through herTwitch, and I rarely walked in there
and just said, okay, here'ssome subs, and then I just kind
of vanished. Yeah, because whenhe was on, he was on it
with Coco Coco Sweet, and I'mlike, okay, I'll go check out

(01:26:33):
Haley. And then I went thereand I just donated and I was like,
okay, donate but gifted, Yeahyou're great. No, it was
I remember now. I just wantedCoco like, oh I remember that.
Actually, So thanks for having meon, Sarah. Where can I fire
you really quick? You guys canfind me on I am Sarah LEAs dot

(01:26:54):
com. All of my my Twitter, Instagram, and all my social media's
and even my subscription sites are underthat link. So that's so you can
find me. Fellow are I'm aboutto die, this chair about to fall
over. We are done on instagrams, on Facebook, and on Twitter at
our A W A C A RR on Twitter and on Instagram, miss

(01:27:15):
space. Thank you so much forcoming on. You are pleasure and uh
yeah, you are absolutely amazing.You were fun to talk to and I
look forward to all that you doin the future. Just ripping up,
ripping up and tearing up, andshe's doing the hearts. I know usually
it works on phone, but Idon't think I'm next year. He's on
the iPhone. Yeah, So we'llsee you all next week and show her

(01:27:41):
all the love that she deserves.She deserves all the love, so