The Soul Effect w/ Santana XXL

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
What's this of the mister effect? And of course I'm
doing with my bornerful, spectacular and awesome co hosts that
love to miss Sarah lace Hey.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Welcome back everyone. Today we have what I would consider
a very special episode because we have ourselves a fellow
Urban Next winner. Honestly, he is a yet trail blazer
from when I've heard he's already not just been nominated,
but also won a few other awards, including Newcomer of

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the Year and.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Performer Year.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Killing nominations one four up to Santana trimple x L.
Hello puppy, Hi, how are y'all?

Speaker 3 (00:56):
How are you doing?

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Amazing? Bill im blessed have you here?

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
I appreciate it so real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Before for the people out there though who don't know
who you are, tell them who was who was this
uplex hell guy?

Speaker 3 (01:15):
I am a creator, a performer, a gay performer, a
gay porn star.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
I'm known for like giving blow.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Jobs in the car, doing that for like eleven years.
Like I've been doing independent content for eleven years because
or I started doing studio work, so like it was
like you know, for me, I'm one of the first
plus sized big boys of color to ever film for
like a gay major studio in the historic porn I've

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done it all by myself, like especially in the industry
that was never really accepting to like big big boys
and the gay porn industry that are not really open
to like having been but if you go to the
straight porn side, you got bbw's there are cast in stuff.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
But in the gay girl in.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
A gay porn world, like we're not looked at unless
we like are like the musclemen or the twin and
stuff like that. So I feel really honored that, you know,
I started doing something for myself and independent content, and
I wanted to show that big boys could do this,
like you know what I mean. And I knew it

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wasn't going to be an easy thing. Like I knew
it wasn't gonna be easy at all. I bust my
ass with my own content, promoting my own soulf. I
had no help like when I did my, when I
did my, when I first did only things, when I
was like independent content, when I was like twenty two,
when I first started making content, and I knew that

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there was gonna be people that was again seeing like
the Big Boy and stuff like that, because gay porn
is like, really, if you don't fit a certain esthetic,
you're not easily accepted, like you know what I mean.
Or so that's why I started doing my own ship.
And then when I did my own shit, it started
my own ship. I was going viral all the time,
like my work went viral all the time, and some

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people were like, how how, no, that's not how it
should and all this other stuff. It was like, I'm like,
it is what it is with you now, like my
own shit, and people were bothered by that. And you know,
when I did my content, there were a lot of performers,

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especially in the industry at the time, they did studio
point and told me, oh, I should just quit because
I was never going to be successful. Like I was
literally told that I was never going to be successful
in this in this business. And as when I was
successful as a creator and then I got nominated for
my first gave In award, and I'll never forget when
I when I went to the first show and I

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ran this is somebody that was like told me I
wasn't gonna never be successful and they was like, what
are you doing here? And I was like I'm nominated
for mustim Warts. I think I was nominated for like
a good three awards at that time at the ads
and stuff. And then this year when I was there,
I ended up winning two awards, so it was like

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a fuck you. And then when I won the Urban X,
it was like a big fuck you and all that
other stuff because it was it was a big thing
for me. So yeah, I know I went on a
little rant there.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
No, I'm gonna tell you this. I'm gonna tell anybody
this because hiple don't realize if you want to go
on a tangent, go on a tangent because right now,
this hotel, right now, like this is this is our
season finale of season seven. So we had to end
it right so that all we brought you on. You know,
we gotta do this right. So you want to go
on a tangent and you want to tell them, hey,

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this f you, you little little something de word, you know,
say what you want to say, cuss them, O f them,
you know, like you know, aprove you don't approve your
damn point.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
You know, thank you, Church doesn't cuss, but I do, so.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
That No, you can, I just you know, I don't.
The little water just doesn't doesn't like swear.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, we would love to hear the story though, of
how you made this happen. What how did you start off?

Speaker 3 (05:31):
So I started off. I started making content when I
was twenty two and it was something where I was
doing with my boyfriend at the time. But it was
his idea to do the whole content and recording thing.
It really wasn't my idea because I didn't think much
of it. Yeah, so, like he wanted to do a
video of me, like giving him a blowjob in the car,

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so I did that and he posted it. It wasn't
my thing for me to like post and did when
I put out my first video. When he put out
the first video, it had hit like at that time,
it was hit over like two million views, three million views.
And when I started, I was on platforms like X
two x videos, porn Hub and stuff like that. Even

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before that was before OnlyFans wasn't even a thing. I
wasn't even on Twitter at the time, so I didn't
even think about Twitter. I didn't even know you could
post porn on Twitter at that point. But like so
I wasn't really thinking about it. So anyway, so it
went viral, and I'm like, you know, maybe we can
keep doing it and doing it and doing it. So
we put out videos and it would just go viral

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at the viral, viral, viral. But then it got to
a point where he was like he didn't he didn't
like the attention I was giving, and it was like
we just separated all kinds of stuff. But I kept
on producing my own content, which was in the car,
and people responded to it and really liked the videos
that I was producing in the car, like they like

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people was having wild reactions. They love seeing the reactions.
I had one guy that had a stroke while I
was yeah, and the ambulance that came. It's on video
and everything. That was a real viral video when a
guy had a stroke when I was giving him a
blow job in the car. And then I had one
guy that ship it so and I had one guy

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thats like it was.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
I just thought about something like the point out you
know how you know how people say so was gonna
soak the so It's gonna suck the soul out of somebody,
And I'm.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
Like, but that's what that's That was my title and
that's what I was known for.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
I was known for like doing the blow jobs, and
card that got the bigger what that was doing blow
jobs in the car. That was that was the thing.
That was the thing for me before I even started
doing like content of me getting fucked. I didn't do
content of me getting fucked for years. It was always
just blowing jobs from from the very beginning, for ten

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I did ten years of blowjobs before I started like
getting fuck on CAUNT. So I built, I built something
for myself off of just blow jobs. And people was like,
there's just no way you could sell content off of
just blow jobs alone. I'm like, yes you can, because
there is a group of people that just strictly like
blow jobs, like you know what I mean, and they

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loved what I was giving them, and I gave consistent
content over and over and over. Every week I was
putting out something, and I was just very consistent with
it throughout the years, and it just always went viral.
And you know, and that was even before I even
started transitioning into studio porn. So yeah, that was what

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I was doing, giving blowjobs in the car, guys having
stross ambulance coming out and shit, and then you know,
I you know, I make people sign away renown blow jobs.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
But like, yeah, that was that was that was my thing.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Does it say we are not liable for strokes are done?

Speaker 3 (09:06):
It should? It should? It should? But yeah, I had
some wild times in the car, like giving blows out,
you know. So you know, had some girls that wanted
to get in on the action too, Like some girls
they wanted me to suck their men in the car
and alls.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
I never did it, though, I never did it, but
I've been aggs but no, I never.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
I would totally sit there and watch, Like I am
a voyear and exhibitionist. I totally love to just sit
there and watch. Mind you. I scrolled through your Twitter
after we met at Urban Acts and I was like, oh,
I think he can outslack me. That's a throatcoat right there.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah, you know, I mean I never gave myself that title.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
It was people.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Other people gave me that time and stuff. I was like, okay,
I just was making time because I love.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Making You're almost people. You have a title.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
You and the guy the guy that had a stroke
when I was when I did the video when I
had a stroke, he wanted to come back and do
another video after that it was his first time, like
his first time, and he wanted to come back and
and I did, but he didn't have a stroke time,
which is his.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
First time with uh.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Everything. It was the first time. It was his first
time filming with a guy. After all, it was his
first time with a guy, but it's his first time
like being recorded too, so it was a whole different experience. Man. Yeah,
and he enjoyed it.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
I mean he almost ended up dead, but like he
wanted to come again. So he came again and we
did it and it was again.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
I do want to point out and was coming really good.
It's coming like damn like you.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
It's I would want to come back to get it again.
I'm like, look, eventually it's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
I had guys that pissed themselves. I have guys that
shipped on themselves.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
All that happened.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
But like the season part really like really that was
that was crazy because I really thought this man was dead,
Like I was literally tapping him, He's shaking him, Are
you okay? And then he was wasn't responding, so I
had to call the ambulance. But the ambulance everybody was like,
well is it the ambulance and you suck, is it. No,
By the time we did all that, he was already

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like I made sure he was like dressed up and everything.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Like he was like you know, satisfied just.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
The people.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Some people would just leave them like that, but I
wouldn't do that.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
I wouldn't do that to nobody. I wouldn't leave nobody
there or nothing like that.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
Oh no, I can never do that.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
That's service.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
I wouldn't do that.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
You said, what is what it's bad customer service to
do that. I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
I'm exactly, I mean as aftercare.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
But yeah, if that's what happened.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Speaking of aftercare, do you like to get done and
kinky syntena?

Speaker 1 (12:36):
I do.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
I mean it all depends though, like for certain people
or if I'm like filming for like the studio or
something or anything that's professional. I can get in the
hairspace like you know, I could just step into it
like you know, but I'm more so like a bottom
of it anything. I don't really.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Stop like that absolutely, But there's some kinks that you
maybe have tried or have enjoined.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
That.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
I love nipple.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
I love my I love my nipples A n and
played with and stuff most big boys do now boys
and big girls do. But I want to get into
bondage and I want to get into like they.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Get me finished.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
I want to I want to try to get okay,
I want to try and get I don't know if
I can take it. I don't know if I can,
but I still want to try it.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
But that's one thing I want to I mean, I
want to say this, like some people are like some
are like almost a girthic whatever, So you could take
a big one, like it shouldn't hurt as much.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Mind you, from what I learned from a recent episode,
which I guess technically this works for the butthole too,
but like you just like practice and you just build
up from the sizing, you know, just just sit on
some dildos and just kind of like have them in
there for like an hour, just fickle yourself around and

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build up in sizing.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
But on the size of the hand though, too, because
like there are some people with some with some big old,
big old, huge old dainty hands and it's kind of
like that's hurt.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah, I want to try it. There are some creatives
out there, they that are that they do that kind
of content. I'm gonna try it one day when I
get some courage, get it.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Honestly, I feel like, if you really need some advice,
hit up Reble writer. She is the queen of that absolutely,
like she can fesst her myself, and I think she's
taken double fisting as well.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Oh wow, Oh.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
Definitely.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Should I be able to give you some tips and
tricks maybe.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
So I'm a new phone. I know it's gonna hurt
like hell, but I'm still gonna try it. I'm still
gonna I feel if I always talk about it, but
I never I never done it.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
That's been a secret wish of mine too, Like I
need to get back into my anal training before I
even get close to trying that. But like, you know,
it's just it's so hot to watch. We can call
it for research purposes, you know, but I like to
s girl down porn hub and just kind of look

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and see what excites me or what kind of gives
me new ideas.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Right before before this, before we started yet, like yesterday,
I'm like, we're gonna have sometana oil and it's gonna
be really hilarious because I've seen one of his other
interviews that it made me laugh the entire time, and
I haven't stopped laughing since we started, So it's hilarious anyway.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
So you're you're transitioned.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
From like just doing mainly only fans to doing mainstream.
What has been your biggest struggle, you hurd hurdle.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
My biggest struggle, I want to say, like branching off
into other studios within the gay porn industry, because there
aren't There aren't hardly any big boys in gay porn,
and like I was saying before, they don't really cast

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bigger men and and in in gay porn. The only
studio that that took a chance on me had me
and I'm currently filming for, which is one of the
biggest gay porn studios in the world, is men dot Com.
And they reached out to me. I thought it was
a joke. I ain't even wanna lie. I thought it
was a whole joke. They reached out to me and

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they said they created a concept for me and it
would be if you're interested in doing it or not.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
It took me a little It took me like a
good week or so to like make a decision.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
I was calling some of my industry friends, like other
performers and stuff that actually do studio porn, and they
were saying, Oh, you should do it, you should do it,
And I was thinking to myself, it wasn't for I
didn't do it for the money. The money wasn't the
thing for me. It was I wanted to be able
to represent something that was never really done in this

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side of the industry.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
It was a big thing for me.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
I said, you know, I'm doing this for that, and
that was that was the main purpose. So when I
first did my debut out there, I had one of
the biggest debuts of that year for any plus sized
boys ever. Because they didn't think because most gay porn studios,
they don't think we can sell. They don't think we
can sell. They don't think we have the appeal to
bring people in. They don't think we're desirable enough or

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fit the aesthetic to bring in sales or to bring
people in.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
And stuff like that. And I showed them.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
I showed them, And when I did my debut room
in dot Com, it was so good that they was
pleased with it and they brought me back for more
and they had more for me, and then I got
nominated for the two Avans and gave ins and then
I won and then But the biggest struggle is just
trying to like film for other studios, you know what

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I mean, like or having other big boys in other
studios and stuff like that, because.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
That's mainly what I'm what I'm doing it for. I wanted.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
I wanted to bring something different to what we see
because we always see the same type of people like
fucking on camera. But everybody in the world does not
look like like that, Like you know what I mean,
And that's fine, and that's what you like. And we're
all different. We all have our own desires of what
we like or find attractive and stuff. It's not just
this one type of body type or one type of

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person or whatever the case is.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
But you know, I endor to lot.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
I mean, I've had people that have said really negative
things about about me, about my size and stuff. I've
had people wish me dead and send me death threats
because it bothered some people that they that they'll see
me on camera having sex with this guy or having
sex with that guy, and they'd be like and they'll
say things like that shouldn't be that, that that's not

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how it works, or oh, you paid this guy to
be the to film with you. I don't pay for collaborations.
That's that's that's the one I don't do that I've made.
But in our society it's always like, oh where, it's
just no way that you got with this person or
film with this person or been with this person unless
you pay them. That's how our thinks, unfortunately, but that's

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not the case. So some of these people have asked
me to work with like, you know, to ask to
work with me and stuff like that, you know. So
that's just some of the things that I've challenged. But
the craziest things that I have to deal with is
like the death threats, because I've had people try to
threaten my life because they just feel like I should
not be in porn or I should not be whatever.

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They say, things like oh, woke porn or a whole
bunch of a whole bunch of crazy stuff that don't
make any sense, you know. But I don't give a fuck.
I'm still gonna do what I've been doing. I've been
doing this for like eleven years now. I'm just I'm
just doing it on a mainstream level now with men
dot Com and stuff like that, which I am so
grateful that they that they had me feeling for them

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because I'm I'm good. I actually I actually ended up
knowing when I first did it, I ended up loving
porn even more and I realized, like it's a lot
of hard work. It's it's a lot of hard work
that people don't understand about me coming from like the
creator side of just doing it independently and then going

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on SAD and seeing how they work and do things
and shit like that. I'm like, y'all really do work hard,
Like this ship is not as easy as people think,
and like the time you put it there, because you'd
be on set for like you can be on SAD
for like a good ten or eight hours or whatever,
and it's a lot of work. And they made me
get like I have much more respect for people who

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do do studio because that's really a challenge.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
Like that's really a challenge. But so yeah, that was
like I'm over talking.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Man, No, no, you are I took before this is
YO show, right, Like we just here to make sure
to facilitate you could go on a tangent going your tangent. Yeah, people,
the fis woke.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Poor.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
Oh look some of the things that people were saying
in the comments, like they were like as soon as
my as soon as like a scene dropped for me
or something like that, there come to like the trolls,
the trolls and be like, oh my god, look at this.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
This is walk porn, and I'm like, what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Like people were saying things like I'm like, what the
fuck is walk porn? Like that's what I'm saying, Like
it was just one of the things that people be saying.
It just but they don't say it. They won't say
it up to somebody else that fits like the normal
aessthetical porn, they will never say that when they but

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bring somebody that's a little that looks a little bit
different than what they're used to seeing, and it's like
then everybody wants to lose their shit.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
It ain't the way I like it. It works for
me either way, but like you you know, like.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
What the fuck just wal porn?

Speaker 3 (22:46):
That's crazy crazy.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
I am curious though. What was that first storyline for
men dot com And what about it was that called
your Grab your Attention?

Speaker 3 (23:01):
It was you mean like the title of the scene
and stuff like that. Yeah, it was. It was called
gobbled that Cop, which was my debut at men dot com,
and it was about set.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
It again Thanksgiving or no, no, it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
It wasn't a Thanksgiving theme. It was just like the
title was called gobbled that Cop because you know, dick
and so like. So it was about me visiting my
friend visiting my friend and their brother was there or
their family member was there, a cousin or whatever, and
we was flirting with each other in the apartment and.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
He whipped out his dick.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
I was sucking a popsicle and he whipped it out
and I just started gobbling that cop and why his
friend was in the kitchen and then they came. He
came and sat down, and then I sucked them some
more and then we went in the kitchen. He fucked
me over some critance over the kitchen counter, and we
failed in the bedroom. And that was that was That
was the first scene. That was the That was the

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very first scene, god.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
Which.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
It got a lot of tension online, especially on Twitter.
It ended up doing like a good I want to say,
three million views on Twitter. Wow, and it had a
lot of comments some people. A lot of people were
happy about it, but there were some people that was
just like, oh my god, what is this? Who do
you think he is?

Speaker 4 (24:28):
What is man dot Com I'm doing? They put out
walk porn now and all kinds of tuff. I'm like,
oh my god. But other than that, it was still good.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
I mean, people don't think about it, but even those
negative commons bring more engagements.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
Yeah, okay, but this but this is the thing. This
is the thing I've been doing.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
This is the thing.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
The comments don't get to me.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
People forget that I've been doing independent content for about
eleven years now, since the very beginning, and since I
started when I was twenty two. I've always had negative
comments from the very beginning. So I'm numb to it now,
Like it's nothing you can say now that would make

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me feel anyway.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
Or to doubt myself.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
You know.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Actually the comments actually fuel me to do more and
put me to piss you off, you know what I mean.
So it's like for me, you're gonna say whatever you
want to say, I'm still gonna do me. I'm not
going nowhere. I've been doing this shit for like like
eleven years. Man, Like if you wanted to get me
out or wanted me to go away, you would have
had to do that a long time ago.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
It's too late for that now. But you know, and
they fuel me.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
Don't tell me I can't do something because a lot
of people told me I couldn't do this. A lot
of people told me I was never gonna make it far.
A lot of people told me that I should just
quit because I just wasn't going to be successful. And
a lot of them people that told me that stuff,
ended up coming back to me and apologizing for the
things that they said. And it's crazy now because now
they're asking to work with me.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
I see the vision now.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
I know.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
Sometimes when I walk up in a place, if I
walk up to an event and they see me for
the very first time, if you're not familiar with.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
Who I am and what I do, they'd be like, well,
what you doing here? And stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
They don't even know. Some people don't even know that
I do porn until they see my name and pictures
show up on the screen. Then they're like, oh okay,
And then they do or they do some research on me,
or they google me or whatever, they be oh okay.
Because when I say I do porny some people think
it's a joke. They start laughing and all kinds, and

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I love it because I'm like, okay, I'll be laughing too.
But when I'm talking about Google me or chat gbt
me or something, they'd be like, oh okay, Like yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
It is.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
But you know, would you mind if I told you
my first syssum Because also I just see you at
Urban X. I thought you were a performer, like a
rapper or like a like YouTuber TikToker like Drew Sky vibes.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Oh my god, everybody call me Drew Sky.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
But the crazy thing because people.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
At the Urban ass that night when I was when
I was there and I went, you know, some people
came up.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
To me and thought I was Saucy's Antino.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Like.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
People was saying that. They said, oh you the guy
that make music, the saucy the saucy guy. I'm like, no,
I make porn. But you know, but people I get
that a lot too. You know, get Drew Sky more
than anything. Like if I go through an airport, If
I go through an airport and sit down, it's people
like they be walking past minute back and forth, just

(27:47):
is trying to see who I am.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
And they was like and they'd be like.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Aren't you Drewsy. I thought you was Drewky. I'm like, nah,
I'm not Drew Sky. But you know, I get there
all the time, especially through an airport. Though I don't know,
maybe maybe all to them, all big boys look alike.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Your version.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Yeah, but I do get that a lot. I get
that a lot.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Mind you. At Urban Acts, we have had random like
rappers show up to.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
It.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
That is a thing.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
So I was really thinking, I'm like, damn, my god,
blessed by the rapper. Like, Okay, it was my first
time there.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
I had a good time.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
I had. I had a really good time. I wasn't
able to make it this year, but I made it.
When I made it last year and I won. It
was a good vibe. It was.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
It was different, Like I really enjoyed it. I really
really enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
Yeah, hell was.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
I was nervous as hell.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Getting on that stage. That I ain't gonna lie because
I deal with social anxiety too, so sometimes being around
a crowd of people, sometimes I don't know what to say.
I just be freezing up because I just be nervous
being around a crowd of people sometimes and I could
just get really quiet and people think because I'm like
really quiet or whatever, but I don't know what took

(29:09):
over me when I got on that stage, like because
it was the first time I was ever on the stage.
I was the first time I was ever on the
stage and with a microphone. Everybody was like every it
was like I was wild on the stage and I'm like,
I don't know what took over me when up there.
I don't know what took over me. It was like

(29:30):
a whole different person came out. I was nervous. I
actually kind of myself looking at the footage like like
after the Wars and everything. But yeah, it was it
was I had a great time. I was nervous as hell,
but I had a great phone.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
I think it was just that award winning energy that
you came in. That's right, pitch.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah, And it's fact that it was like before the year,
so it wasn't just like you know, just and you
know what.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
The crazy thing was that so at the last minute,
I didn't think I was going to make it to
that Award show. I didn't think I was going I
didn't think I was going to I didn't think I
was going to make it. I was tired. I was filming,
Like I don't know if I had the energy to
like go and you know, get pictures and talk to everybody.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
But just like I was like, you know what, I
came out here for it, I'm gonna go. I got dressed,
I went.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
I was nervous from the time I got out the
car because honestly, I think that was like my that
was like my first time in LA, Like that was
my first way ever.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
I never been to LA before that. So I win,
And I'm glad I did go because I ended up winning.
And I'm like, I didn't even know that.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
I didn't think that I was going, because I don't
never have the intentions that I'm going to win something,
you know what I mean. So I'm glad I did
go because I almost didn't make it. I almost did
not make it, But I'm glad I did go.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Sarah was for a long time because she's been nominated
for a few things, and like she always says, I'm
gonna go to go, I don't think I'm gonna win
to get the socialized, and she actually won her first
one this year and now I'm like and now I'm like,
she can't say that anymore I do, and like.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Category category, did you wa porn star next door?

Speaker 4 (31:26):
Okay, oh my goodness, this is the first or.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
If you won before, I've had other nominations, but it's
my first big win.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Okay, congratulations, I know, yeah, like I want.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
I won my first one this year too, And it's
kind of like so much like it's kind of like, Okay,
I've been this Like you said, you've been for ten years.
I've been here for seventeen, and it's kind of like
like fudge, like.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
You don't expect it's gonna be recognition.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
I got RECOGNI I got people like me. And the
fact that Urberdex is completely fan votes it means more
so that means like the everybody other hating on you,
saying you woke his heck, this just proves them wrong.
Like you know else, y'all people like what I do.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
No, this is what people fail to understand.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Like I know, when we're in this business and you
do only fans and you do poring and stuff like that,
fuck what any other performers got? The thing creators, It's
all about the fans at the end of the day,
because the fans are the ones that get you where
you at at the end of the day. So like
your job is not to please other performers or other creators.

(32:45):
Your job is to make your fans happy because they're
the ones that get you to where you want to
be and he help you and he support your content
and everything. So I tell people that all the time,
y'all be chasing people, be chased, trying to chase other
performers and kiss other performances as on other creators ass
what it ain't and it ain't about them. It's about
the fans that support your work. And I five that

(33:06):
all the time, and people forget that, Like, it's the
fans that supports your work, and they're the ones that
really matter exactly.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
They're the ones that truly feed to your success.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
We speaking of fans, I do ask people this question
that you do do only fans? Also, what is or
or one of the other ones? What is the weirdest
thing that a fan has asked you to do? The
weirdest thing, weird is our funniest. You can do either,
ord I don't want you to, I said, the weird,

(33:42):
weirdest or or funniest funniest. I don't want to. You know,
figure out.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
They wanted me to they you want to me to
ship in somebody's mouth like they want to be. They
wanted me to ship in another performance mouth like doing
content with me, and I'm like, I'm not doing it.
And they offered a lot of money, but I'm not
doing that now that like, that's that's that's going a

(34:17):
little bit too far. I don't do anything that got
anything to do with old or anything like that. I
don't do that.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
But that was the that was the weirdest thing that
somebody asked me to do.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
And mind you, personally, the funniest thing about those is
that certain terms like that aren't even allowed on those platforms,
and they still try to find a way to ask.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
They're like, I know this isn't allowed, but that is
a sight. There is a site where people do do that.
It's called dark Fans. But yeah, But another thing that
somebody asked me to do. It was the weirdest request.
They just wanted me to chew bubble and blow bubbles
like that, Like I could that. I mean, that's like

(35:01):
chewing bubble gum and blue bubbles, like somebody asked me
to do that.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
That that was like only two Sarah i've officially officially
for I won. I could say that is it the
one that I always say thanks to him? Now? Because
that always because I asked this question all the time,
sometimes depending and like beforehand, it was the one where
someone requested someone, you know how, like there was someone

(35:27):
fully closed making the fart an noise with the under
the arm pits, and that's all they wanted. But chewing
bubble gum is like even even lord, because it's not
even emotions, just.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Like you know, yeah, you know I should do that.
I should do one of those videos like an oral fixation.
What it is like liking on a lollipop, blow pop
until it gets down to the bottom. Then you stretch
the bubble gum and just bow some bubbles.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
I mean, I mean it's easy. You ain't gotta you
don't gotta do too much make your fans happy to
I don't see why not. I'm not by my mouth,
but I'm not doing that. That's that's that's.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
How to like, you know, blow bubbles, blow bubbles.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
They wanted me to do.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Some people don't know how to don't know how to
blow really, but but but some people you don't think
so they don't like I don't know people who don't
know how to do it really, Oh my god, my heart.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
People have different skills.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
You know, they must have gotta dry mouth. If they
can't do it, they must have got to dry mouth.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
I mean, I just don't. They don't know how they like,
you know, set it down, wind it out, put it
on their tongue and then you know, lay it out whatever.
But it's like, yeah, they struggle with blowing bubbles with
bubble gum.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
I wonder if it's one of those like genetic things,
you know, like how it's genetic to have like dimples
and stuff and to be able to like roll your
tongue into like a taco or whatever. Maybe that's one
of those things where it's just genetic that they can't.
They may not have that like ligament or muscle in
their tongue.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Possible, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
But if they can't blow bubbles, how good are they
sucking get or eating pussy? Like?

Speaker 1 (37:34):
I mean you can you can you can circle those two.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
So, but usually I like to test people by seeing
if they can roll their rs. That's how I know
if they can eat.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
I'd be mad if I can't blow bubbles. I didn't understand,
Like I can't blow bubbles. I can't, because when I
think of people who can't do that, I think they're
just gonna Ryan's mouth. Can't do that, so you can't.
You're right, they probably can't suck dick. They probably can't
do none of those things or e pussy or whatever.

(38:09):
I would be mad about that.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Exactly that that.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Might be what it is.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
But like I already know your dick sucking skills or
next level stroke worthy.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
I pay for it every time I know I'm getting
older because I can't even do it in the car
like I used to. Like I used to, I used
The longest time I ever suck dick in the car
is an hour going.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
But I can't do it no more.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Because my next doctor hurt after a while, after physics
minutes doing it in that position. My next ship, I
can't do it like that.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Like that, I get that.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Even my knees, like when you get older, No, knees
ain't the same when you get older, you gotta be
on the knees sucking dick.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
I'm like, oh my god. But also I do like
feature dance every once in a while, so usually I'll
go like ham for that, and then the next day
I'll be sucking dick like filming a scene. Then I
got like bruises all over my knees and stuff, and
people are like, damn, you suck pick that hard.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
I need knee pants.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Now.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
I'm not twenty two, no more, y'all.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
I'm not. I'm not twenty two no more. I can't
be on my knees like that at all, Like y'all
be wanting me to suck way too long. Now I can.
I don't got it. I need knee pants or I
need a pillow or something on the ground because I can't.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
I can't do it.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
And then I start getting a crook in my neck
when I be sucking dick in the car, and I'm like,
I don say I can't do it like that no more.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
I wonder. I wonder if uh, I don't know, if
it's like, uh, it was a wider car would be
easier because I don't know what you use.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
I suck. I suck dick in out e Q eight.
So it's a wide car. It's a while, yeah, But
even with that, it's like being in that position over
because I gotta be on like the staring wheel into
the passenger seat in that position for a long time
and just keep on rocking and rolling it.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
It's just it's so uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
I'm like anywhere at night. So because the long winding
guy is not my friend at all, do it.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
A certain angle, so if the camera is this way,
you kind of have to open up that way, so
you're sucking dick. You have to do it a certain
way so you get that extra crick versus being able
to just like go front and center sometimes and just
do it comfortably.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
I guess.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
We do the craziest position sometimes.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Like at the same time, you're just like, oh my god,
oh my god.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
I've just done it before where I've filmed scenes and
then either either me or the other performer gets uh
gets a Charlie horse and you have to stop.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
And ain't no joke, Ain't no fucking joke.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
I can't.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
I get it in in my neck, I get it
in my my knees.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
I can't, especially on a set where the A C
is loud so they have to turn it off.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
Yeah, sweat, I get it. Don't take much for me
to get high because I got a lot on top.
But when I'm in a studio set and and and
you under them that's what people don't understand. When you
under them bright lights and ship it gets I under
them lights and it's sweat be just turned down my
face and down my chest and everything. But try doing

(41:55):
it in the summertime when you're doing a video car
video in the summertime, and you don't want that air
conditioner sound blown in the background in the video, and
you gotta turn that air conditioner off, and you sucking
dick in the hot ass car for damn there thirty
thirty minutes. Not fun like in a hot car, but
you know, you gotta get this video done. And you know,

(42:16):
you can't have an air conditioners unless you don't give
a fuck, because there are some people that don't give
a fuck, but me, I care. I don't want the
air condition to sound that one. But you turn that
shit off, you're gonna be really high, and I feel
I can't.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
That's that's not fun.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Yeah, Because like I love my videos, not all of them,
of course, but I love for a good amount of
them to kind of give that amateur look, but not
that amateur feel, you know, like it still looks like
well done. You don't hear that random stuff in the background,
you know, like it still looks homemade, but it's like

(42:52):
high quality. Like so I love to do so for
about seven years now, seven years.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Okay, okay, Well so that so that was like before
only fans or was the thing or or around.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
I think technically only fans started around then, but I
didn't hop on the only fans bandwagon that quick.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
You know.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
I started off as a model and then kind of
jumped into kind of like amateur and pro am content
and then kind of built my way up to the
mainstream like professional scenes. But I don't know, besides that,
I always loved that like amateur feel where it almost
like so it was like you could be right there

(43:45):
watching you know, what what studios is.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
You film for? Like what studios have you filmed?

Speaker 2 (43:50):
I had filmed for like Team Ski, Bang Bros, Evil Angel,
Elegant Angel as well, okay and recently camp dot Com.
So let me tell you they're good at bondage.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
I know I've seen some of that.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
I've seen some of our videos on on Twitter because
we follow each other and they I was like, damn,
I would love to do that, but trying to tie
me up and all that. That would take a lot
of fab work, and they take a lot of rope
and all kinds.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
But I would love to do that though. I really
would love to get into that even.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
In content like, yeah, I've never done that before. That
would be so interesting.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
One thing I could recommend, though, is maybe go on
fat Life and kind of see around your area because
sometimes they'll do like bondage parties basically where they'll like
sit there and actually like teach each other how to
do different like rope ties and stuff. Oh okay, so
you could you can go and be a rope funny
for someone.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
I'm be a rope big bunny, but I do want
to get incident though that saying that sounds very fun.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
That would be so awesome to see you in bondage
tied behind your back or something, just like suckingd dick just.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
How but how long does it take, like when you
do that, how long does it take to get the
rope tie and everything.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
It actually depends on the experience of the person. But
I've done it both on like a professional set and
I've done it at a convention, and they really don't
take that long to get those ties. Like I would
say just a few minutes, like you're.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
Not do you love to do the studio?

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Like do you love you prefer studio over like regular
content or I don't know.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
I do love that control of being able to choose
and create what like, choose what to create for that day.

Speaker 5 (45:59):
But sometimes I like not having to think about that through.
You know, they give me a script, They're like, all right,
can you be this today? And I'm like, you know what,
fuck yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Let's do it.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
I like the challenge and the challenge of it.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
That's what I like.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Yeah, I love when they put us in in scenes
or scenarios that we haven't done before. You're like, well,
that's new, But I'm an active fuck out of that one.
Like they've had me as a mean girl before, like
a snotty rich girl, and I was like, Wow, I

(46:38):
don't know how to do that, but I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
You said you said you felt for Team Skeek before too. Yes, Yeah,
I was in my house because I was really I
was in Vegas not too long ago, because I just
did two things fromin dot Com one of them come
out Next Move, and I was in the house.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
I was in the house in Vegas and the guy.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
I was telling me, one of the directors that was
telling me that a lot of Team Skeets scenes are
filmed here. So I was like, oh wow, it was
a nice house. It was in Vegas. Yeah, oh wow.
So they showed me the whole thing, and I'm like,
but I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. So this scene
come out next week. So I was riding a guy

(47:22):
face like he was eating my ass and I was
riding him. I was riding his face. That was the
first time I've ever did that. Ship I've never did that.
Even in my own content, I've never done that. I
never did it.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
So I'm so the scene is where.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
A burglar bricks into my house and that he steals
my my ad and trophies, like my trophies, and I
run into him and I push him on the ground
in front of him and everything. Then I take every
drop my role and everything, and then I squatted over
his face and then he eats my ass and I
just be bouncing on his face and stuff like that,
and Tenny's flopping everything just shaking, and so I'm really

(48:02):
excited about it.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
That was fine. That was really funny.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
In the house.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
That sounds exciting, honestly, So by the time this comes out,
that will already be out as well.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
So yeah, because it's like we're recording early, so this
this comes out I think like October, like this second
week of October. So it was just no doing it
early because you know, you know, you never know what
seeing people get in vacations and amazing crap, you.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Know, because you know, we stayed busy.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
What's crazy? And I'm like, y'all, y'all both had you know,
had a long journey into which I'll do. I'm not
a performer, but like the very first thing I did
in porn was someone asked me to be an extra
in a porn movie that was like a mainstream, uh,
playboy adult movie. And I'm there's an extra like dancing

(49:05):
with someone who's obviously like wearing draws. So and I'm like, okay,
I'm here, I'm in a porno.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
So you've been doing it for seventeen years. How do
you think it's changed over the business and all that time, Like,
do you think it's.

Speaker 4 (49:23):
Changing way or a bad way or.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
It depends on which thing you're talking about, because in
my opinion, like uh ts and gay porn. Both of
that is a lot less you know, taboo than what
it used to be. You know, it's a lot it's
really more accepted now than it was not just just

(49:49):
even like seven years ago. Like there's been so many
changes and well people find decent or acceptable, you know,
and like there's some people who.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
Who do.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Straight porn and gay porn, and back in the day,
if you did anything in gay porn whatever, they would
not want you to come back to us do anything
with straight porn whatever. And with the emergence of like
only fans and stuff like that, that gives that gives
more people a better opportunity to have their content and

(50:31):
instead of even grow grow even more because before that,
you know, most people didn't know like if you were
in straight porn whatever, who people other people were in
all the other type of industries. And I feel that
even with twenty twenty with everybody was talking about getting

(50:52):
rid of the term i R you know, like even
getting rid of forcing them to like a five that
this person's black, this person's white, this person's Latina towards
Asian whatever. And it also opened up more opportunities for like,
you know, plus size people because like as you said earlier,

(51:15):
like you always had to fit the same stigma, like
really like if your female could be really really really tiny,
really petite, skinny, you couldn't have you couldn't be over
like one fifty for them to give you a look.
And most of the time you had to be blonde,
you know. And if it came to a male, you

(51:36):
had to beat this big old butch dude like I
pick pick everybody up in one hand and throw them
across the room. And it's like, I get it. Everybody
has their own taste whatever. But with so many other
wily things that are acceptable or become more acceptable now,

(51:56):
it gives everybody a chance to pick their so to speak.
So if you want to see someone small, you were
able to. And if you want to see someone who
was a little heavier, you're able to. If you want
to see uh something like transfixed or something like that,
you're able to. If you want to see like you know,

(52:18):
I can't to get name of the site where it's uh,
where it's everybody everybody in the the scene or having
exact with each other. So it could be two dudes
and one girl and everybody participating with each other like that.
Wasn't as acceptable, you know, as eight years ago. So
I've seen so many changes or what good or bad

(52:41):
or not want to say good or bad, but what
people enjoy, like people are able to put out there,
and so it's been so many different things.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
So yeah, I remember when I first came into the
industry about seven years ago. I had some producers and
just you know, just peers as well, that we're telling
me that in order to get booked more, it would
be better for me to stripen my hair to not
tan and try to get my skin to be like

(53:12):
lighter and stuff like that. And someone even said like, oh,
you should do more crunches. And at that time, I
was already pretty fit, so I was like, you know what, no,
I am.

Speaker 6 (53:24):
Not going to listen to that. I like, if you
see someone in a movie that looks like me, like
that is what should happen.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
You know.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Like sorry, I probably said that wrong, but like I
really wanted to see the natural version of myself on
that camera. I didn't want to create a different version
of me that wasn't authentic to myself. So I decided
to create my brand as that all natural, curly haired
latina you know, and everyone. Still I will speak, but

(54:01):
I try to make sure that they don't overfetishize it
as well.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
Right, what do you think about agencies? Like do you
think that agencies are good or do you think they
are bad for some people? Because I know and there
aren't that many agencies in the gay porn industry, and
the agencies that are available for for the gay performers,

(54:26):
they don't they don't cast big boys at all, Like
they don't be big boys.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
And at all.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
They won't even look at you, or they'll say they'll
tell about the performer. Oh if you film with that
person will drop you and like crazy things. So what
do you feel like agencies are good or do you
feel like it's like bad for some or how do
you feel about I feel.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Like they are good within reason because, for example, one
on one, when I first signed with them, they want
to haven't told me exactly what the labor laws were
for California. They told me what they were and were
not allowed to do, and what I was and was
not allowed to do according to the law. And then

(55:12):
they basically even said, okay, regardless of how long we
have you for on contract, technically no one can force
you to fuck anyone that you don't want to. So
just make sure that even when you are on set
and you already said yes, just know that you can
say no and we can get you out of there

(55:34):
easily if that's what is needed, you know. So I
think that is the great thing about agencies. They offer
you that level of protection. But some agencies slash agents
may take advantage of that power in a sense that
they have over you, and some of them will kind

(55:55):
of do add ons and stuff where from what I've
heard before, for there's been another agency where they were
essentially esporting on the side and the agent was booking
them for that, you know exactly. So it's like there's
certain lines that should not be crossed. But I will
say that agents like can be a good thing.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
You know.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
They can help negotiate your rates for you, so you
can get what you deserve. Versus when you are especially
a newbie, and you're trying to give them that rate
and you're just essentially self booking, they'll try to negotiate
you lower and be like, well, this is our budget.
The agents are like, no, that's not they can afford this.

(56:40):
They can pay what you're with.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
So do you think they're useful in the age of
only fans like they were valuable years ago, or do
you think agencies are still as valuable now than when
they were years ago, especially in the especially the error
we're in right now with only fans and stuff and.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Different in my opinion, Before you answer, sir, I'm sorry,
I think it's different mainly because, like because you do
gay porn in certain agencies don't deal with that. It
might be a little different. But I do know in general,

(57:23):
in my opinion, there are some companies that are some
production companies that only book through agencies and they don't
do they don't do people who aren't with somebody and
stuff like that. So it might be a little different,
but it also feels good too, like it just used

(57:46):
to contact the company themselves and to see what they
require in order to be on their sets.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Yeah, and I do believe that there is that big
difference between talent agencies and management agencies because like the
talent agencies, they'll get you onto those professional or pro
am productions and they'll they'll go in and they'll vet everything,
get references, make sure that everything's solid, versus the management

(58:19):
agencies that they're essentially trying to essentially manage your brand
and essentially how your exposure to social media is. So
I feel like that's one thing, and I feel like
management agencies might take over a little bit more of
your identity versus talent agencies who essentially allow you to

(58:43):
become who you are within that rule limit that they
have on their contract. For example, at least on my contract,
it said like not to do any major changes, like
no random tattoo use or don't change my hair like
to you know, like bright red or bright green.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Like they say stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
I'm not gonna say who this is, but I know, like, uh,
someone who was with one of the major talent agencies,
like she puts some blue in her hair and then
a week later she was dropped from her agency and
basically has not worked again because she didn't get picked
up by another agency because she hit the blue in

(59:30):
her hair.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Yeah, because they hire you for that brand that you
have created, you know. So essentially, if technically, like if
I if I wanted to like dye my hair, like
do a huge change to my appearance, I would essentially
have to ask them or tell them like, hey, this

(59:52):
is what I'm planning to do. And it's really as
simple as that.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
But like.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
I personally kind of wander stand but I feel like
we also should have a little bit more of a
leeway to be who we want to be. But it's
all about branding at the end of the day, and
how you brand yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Yeah, that's about one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Yeah, of course, I love that you're asking questions.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
I have a quick question for you, then, since you
do want to do mainstream uh more, is there any
performer that's mainstream that you want to work with that
you haven't worked with yet.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
I don't have a particular performer that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
It could be.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
It could be it could be your it could be
your top five, be like a or just like uh
it could be like agency nineteen h production companies.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
Yes, Okay, so I kind of I don't really have one.
I don't like to work with as many forms as possible, Okay.
I don't mind working working for filming for different studios
that will respect me like you know what I mean,
and stuff like that. I've only I've only filmed for

(01:01:11):
men dot Com and that's that's really the only studio
that's really ever showed interest in having big boys on
their roster, which is fine because they're one of the
biggest gay Point studios in the world. So I really
don't have a specific performer that I would want to film.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
With, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
You know, I film with people who want to film
with me, So I don't really have I don't have
an idea of who I want to you know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Yeah, I respect that absolutely because like, just because someone's
hot doesn't mean they have a good attitude too, that
doesn't mean you have chemistry.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Yeah, because there's some of the type performers. Some let's
be honest, some can be an asshole. You're gonna be
a big asshole.

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
And and me, I'm not like that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Pretty much work with anyone, honestly, as long as you're
very respectful, I can pretty much work with anybody.

Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
But you know, for me, I'm a vibe. Like if
you don't get that, like I don't know what to
tell you, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
So it's like for me, I don't really have a
top anybody to the film with. I mean, yeah, so
I don't even know how to.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Question because because like and I don't want to see it,
like the Rerogatory but got a hit list they say,
you know, I got to hit that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
I don't have that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
I don't walk into like I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
I don't come across performers and be like, oh, I
got the film with them.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
Oh I got to sleep with them.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
That's that's that's not me. I just I want to
film with people. I want to film with people who
genuinely want to film with me, you know, But I'm not.
I don't walk into a room be like, oh, film
with that person. I gotta film that. That's yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
I mean because like because some people get the industry
because they see somebody on the screen and be like, damn,
I'm not gonna use the name Billy Joe, like Billy
Joe doing just doing this, my damn. And then you
enter industry and you're like, I gotta at least work

(01:03:18):
with that person at least once, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
So it's that, you know, I get what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
I mean, for me, I just when I come across
the other performances, I just be like hi, and then
I just I don't know, I gotta, I gotta, I
gotta do a blow jop video with them, or you know,
I'll ask people if they would like to work together
or not, and they'll just say yes or say now
or then some people some performance will come up to
me and be like I would like to film with you,
and I'll be like, okay, who wants.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
That's the way I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
Never, I don't get hype over other performers like that,
if you know what I'm saying, like, because everybody is
human to me. So it's like, you know, because I'm
be honest with you. Before I got into the like
the I didn't know anybody, like I couldn't tell you
a specific performer. It was just the same to me.

(01:04:06):
So it was like I didn't I didn't look at
people like oh my god, that's so and so, oh
my god, that's I didn't. I didn't look at people.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Before I entered porn. The only two performers I could
tell you by name was Vicky Chase and j Max.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
And that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
That's all I knew.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
And I was like, damn, I know when my sister,
when I got into business and whatever, they seemed that
my sister she knew more poor performers than I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
My sister knew knew the names and everything, and I'm
just like, you know them.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
And my sister, like, yeah, I know that I know
that person and stuff like that. I didn't even know
who that person was, but they were. They were a
big name. I just didn't I wasn't familiar with. But
that's just like when it come to straight porn and
gay porner, a lot of straight on the straight port
side don't know who are the big gay performers like
the popular gay performance on the gay porn side, and

(01:05:08):
a lot of gay on the gay ports side don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
Who are the top performance in the straight portside.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
Honestly, because sometimes we go together, we don't really even know.
We only know people who are really in our in
our side of the industry, but you know, and then
like you know, straight performers know who's the popular ones
and their side of the industry, so when they come together,
it's like they don't really know who that person is
or that person is and stuff like. It's like that

(01:05:34):
sometimes which it is, it is, that's true, but not
gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Like I become a social butterfly during events, So I
love those kind of events, just getting to meet people
from niches. But I haven't explored yet, you know, it's
always so fun to do, like for example, Urban X.
I've met like a few comedians and like rappers and stuff,

(01:05:59):
and I'm like, what, I would not even expected to
meet these kind of people here too.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:06:07):
Yeah, my my, my, my category is more so.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
Niche. And even with you know what I say, they
don't really they didn't really cast bigger boys in gay porn.
They didn't really cast feminine men in gay porn either.
That really didn't start becoming a thing until probably like
two or three years before. Now you see it a
lot more in gay porn, feminine men. But now you're

(01:06:37):
starting to see more bigger men. You got me and
then you got another performer that just made their debut.
And you know, I love to see the change and
the evolution of everything and porn and stuff like that,
you know. So that's what that's what I'm loving.

Speaker 4 (01:06:54):
I'm loving and living for Like, it's the evolution of it,
the changes.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
I like change.

Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
I don't know why I like to change.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
I get it, I get it. The thing is, if
we don't evolve, we end up stuck. And so the
people who don't like to evolve there there it's going
to happen where they just end up there kind of
wondering like why is everything going wrong? It's like, well,
you haven't changed with the times, you haven't moved forward

(01:07:25):
in your life yet. Yeah, but this is why they
call you a trailblazer in the industry.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
So because of that, So, what's what's your uh, three
four years from now? What is your plan? Plan? Your
your goals for the next three four years?

Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
My next three or four years, my goals. I want
to do more studio stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
That's my goal. And the crazy thing is, when I
started doing content, I never thought that I would ever
do studio because I've never seen no one that look
like me on and important honestly, and now that I
am leading at one of people's leading it right now,

(01:08:15):
I want to do more studio stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:08:17):
That's kind of where I want to be right.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Now, because I find myself liking the studio stuff a
lot more than just doing the independent content.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
Who a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
It's the craziest thing because I never thought I would
ever be doing it. So like, that's where I want
to I want to do more of I know of
how much, how many studio scenes I want to do,
professional studio scenes I want to do, So.

Speaker 4 (01:08:41):
Yeah, that's what I want to.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
I want to do more of if I'm if I'm
allowed to do that, Like you know, I'm gonna always
fight for I mean, it's it's not an easy thing,
but you know, you know that's that's part of my whole.
I'm going nowhere, I'm gonna still be making for and shit,
I probably be making porns. I'm like, damn, they're dead,
like making peorn til the day I die. I ain't

(01:09:04):
going nowhere. I could be in the cane. I still
be making foreign as long as it's still make money.
Why stop.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
You may not be able to get on your knees,
but you'll still be.

Speaker 4 (01:09:19):
Hell yeah, Hell yeah, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
I love.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
I love what I do that. You love what y'all do?
You answer to nobody, your own boss. You can. You
can do whatever you want to do.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
You know you ain't got to punch in nowhere exactly,
And if you decide you want to switch things up,
you really can.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
Yeah, I know. Some people ask me, like what I
opened my own studio or something. I don't know, because
opening up for your own studio it's like a lot
of work. People have asked me if I was going
to ever do that, like going forward like gears down
the line. But I don't. I don't know, because that
was something that's a lot of that's a lot of work,

(01:10:04):
and I don't like to be responsible for other people.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
I don't who want to be responsible for other people?

Speaker 4 (01:10:10):
No, but no, I don't. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
We'll see, but it's not on the course with me
right now. But I just want to focus on studio
work and stuff like that. I would love the xbz
XBIZ Award.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Oh yes, I can see that in your future. I've
been nominated like five times for X.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Yeah. Yeah, you'll get it. You'll get it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
Hopefully, like that was me for accent that it happened
for you.

Speaker 4 (01:10:45):
Yeah, congratulations.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Feel when you win that feeling that like that feel
like you people don't understand when you win. You you feel,
oh my god, like.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Like when I won this one, iaved at the person
next week and like who.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
That's how I was. I was sitting next to Sender
Lady Cinder, and she was like she was trying to
like help me through it and stuff like that. She's
really champion me because oh my god, Cender is the best.
Like she was getting me through it all because she no,
I deal with the with the anxiety and stuff like that.
So she she gave me drinks. She made sure I

(01:11:28):
was fucked up at that Miami.

Speaker 4 (01:11:30):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
She just kept on passing me drinks, passive me drinks,
passive me drinks. She helped me through all that. But
I love ladies.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
I love her mind you. So when they announced my award,
it was through like the scroll. And by that time,
just because you know how long it takes for a
girl to get ready, so I had eaten like way earlier,
and so I was I was getting hungry, and I
was a little tipsy, not bad or anything, but there

(01:12:01):
was a freaking taco truck a block down. So there
I am in my fucking award show dress with another girlfriend,
just walking down to get tackles come back, and I'm
just there munching on my tackles and people like congratulations,
and I'm like, oh my tackles. I'm like thanks, They're

(01:12:24):
good as fun.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
You didn't give a chance to go on stage?

Speaker 4 (01:12:29):
Ship would you want to?

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
Did you? Would you want to go on stage? And
except your ward?

Speaker 4 (01:12:34):
Was you just okay?

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Look, I'm like you, I got that social anxiety for
things like that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
Would miss You would have missed it too, because it
was I was like getting tackles, yeah, like I was,
and she would have been up outside eating.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
That's how I would have been. Like when I when
they called my name, when they called my name, would
for the wind and I'm like, god, damn, I god,
I really walk up here. You all understand that was
the longest fucking walk to that damn stage. An I'm
just sitting out here, Oh my god, what am I
gonna do? What I'm gonna do, what I'm gonna say.
It was just the nerves was just going in. But
people was giving me hugs and all kinds of stuff.

(01:13:14):
On the way to the stage.

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
I'm like, oh my god, I was. I was literally
gonna die on that stage. I was cause crowds be
freaking me out.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
Yeah, honestly, like because I didn't go up there last
year to present one of the awards. But mind you,
like what I realized that Gary was like, yes, I
have stage presents, but damn I had shy as ship,
you know. I was like, look, oh shit, I'm supposed

(01:13:45):
to talk hey guys, but.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Something does take over you when you hit them. When
you get on stage, though, when you got that microphone.
It's like something really takes over you, exactly, alter or
something like you know what I mean, but yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
I was like strutting up there like yeah, and the
best the awards for it, I'm just like, oh my god,
I was so extra.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
The question for three Tantana, what do you do for fun?
What is what is what is a what is a
day of fun?

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
For Santana outside the porn, I'm very private, so like
for me, for me, I'm very simple, Like I like
to go on vacations and I like to go to
the movie theater and just watch them watch a movie
or something like. I'm very big with my family, so
I always hang around my father, my mom and my
father and my cousins and my grandparents everything. But after

(01:14:40):
than that, that's mainly what I do. I'm on travel,
on vacations.

Speaker 4 (01:14:44):
Stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
I just got I just got the AMC pass after
my friend like constantly pushed me to get it. And
now I'm actually going to the movie theaters a little more.
And I realized, how, like, you know, you just go
to like two movies a month. It's basically paid for
itself to get you get four three a week, like

(01:15:08):
it's like yeah, it's like it's twenty seven dollars a month.
And these movies are like depending on where you go,
like what movie you see, Like you see a movie
in Imax. Two movies and Imax getting paid for your
damn paths already.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:15:23):
I love a good movie, especially I love horror movies.
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
I can watch horror movies like I literally can't. And
I get that from my grandma because my grandma was
big on horror, so I'm used to watching me with her.
So I'll go to the movies. I don't care when,
any day, anytime, and I'll go and I'll go by myself.
I don't care. I'll go right by my go sit
and watch a nice horror movie or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
Do you do? You like to watch bad horror movies
on purposely?

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
Bad horror movies on purposely?

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
Yeah, on purpose?

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
Yeah, I mean if it's hard. I mean, I'm cause
like horror.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
No. No. My friend, my friend, she's an editor for editor,
but like she loves to go out purposely and like
for like movies that she knows that are horror movies,
but she knows they are bad, and she goes out
there watch it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:16:20):
I mean I could be a movie critic. I'm like,
I'm like, really good movies.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
Noow like she doesn't but she.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
Loves like he doesn't care.

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
I mean, for me, I wanted to be good. Now
I'm spending money to come to the movie theater. I
wanted to be good. I don't want to spend my
money on on something I know is like corny, like.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
You, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
I think depends on the level of corniness or cringe
is where it's gonna be a yes or no for me,
you know, like hard. But if it's like corny and funny,
like scary movie, those I will watch all.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
This comedy.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
That's scary scary scary movie is not scary in any bit.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
I am slowly getting back into horror movies. Okay, that
is watching them in the daytime, So that should tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
I mean, like, I'm the person that that would have
went to see Leverrikin in the Hood in theaters.

Speaker 4 (01:17:27):
So that in theaters when it came out, it was great.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
I'm like, I'm a person that would go go see that,
but I think it was crazy doing it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:37):
But I heard they bringing it back.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
Now, I heard they bringing it there, they're bringing the character.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
I know they rebooted it, and the reboot didn't do
as well, and now they're and then they skipped that
movie and went back to the continuity of the other ones.
I think, like, I think it's like seven movies, and
I think number.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
They're doing a new one. They're doing they're bringing back
the original person that play.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
I think I think Warwick is and all of them
Warwick Davis. But I love of thought.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
But yeah, I not that I'm not a horror movie fan.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
I like them.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
I just get scared easily. So I'm slowly building up
my like scarability level, I guess, you know. So, yeah,
like I'm really big about like zombie movies. Probably I
love me a good thriller. But what jump scares once

(01:18:33):
there's clowns. No, like like Smiling Ones.

Speaker 1 (01:18:39):
No, was that popular horror movie that just came out.
I really enjoyed that Weapons. Weapons was Like, I enjoyed
it that and it was hilarious, But I enjoyed that.
I went to Davis and saw that mm hmm like Weapons.

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
Or yeah, yeah, I want to go see I took
my I took my father to go see it. He
liked it. It was long.

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
The movie is long, but it was good. It was
still good.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
It had me and the girl I was with laughing,
like it was hilarious.

Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
But that I heard that they're the Witch in the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
They're doing a prequel.

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
Yeah, her staring her and her origin story or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
Okay, I love stuff like that when they give us
that origin story.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
Some origin stories are needed. Some aren't because they do
an origin story to redeem the character, and that doesn't
always work. Because there are some movies I even enjoy
that I feel were unnecessary because they're trying to do
origin stories of certain people. M hm.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
Well, for example, the Joker, like that one was a
good one kind of origin story to one. I don't
think I remember watching too.

Speaker 3 (01:20:03):
I didn't watch two either. I've seen the first one.
I thought the first one was good. I never seen one.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
Yet.

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
They said it was a musical. It wasn't really like
a like they just sing and danced the whole environ with.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
Musicals. I imagine out of nowhere, the Joker just just singing.
It just doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
They sent him with a music like the Only time
I'd be okay with that is if it was like
a special holiday episode for like the cartoon.

Speaker 6 (01:20:41):
You know, then I'd be like, you know, that makes sense,
But this I was like Joker the musical, like not bad,
I'm good, and.

Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
That movie didn't do good. I don't think that movie
did good. People were mad about it. People were really
mad about that movie. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
I was like, I'm not even mad about any Gaga
being in it, but like I obviously would have preferred
the original character. Yeah, so it is what it is.
But like I really loved the first Joker, like kind
of thriller. Mm hmmm. I love seeing why the bad

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guy becomes the bad guy and you're like, damn, bro,
society really failed you.

Speaker 4 (01:21:28):
Because that's how it was.

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
I remember when I went to go watch it. I
thought it was really good. I thought it was done
really good. The whole everything about it was good, right
looking forward to the second one. But I didn't even
go and see the second one because people just kept
talking about how horrible it was and then it was
a musical and stuff like that. I was like, I
don't want to see that, Like it was.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
Gosh, like snow white.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
That what.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
I was like, Nope, I'm not gonna you've seen it, No,
I have not. I refused to like I think we
started watching it and we were like, what is this, Like, oh,
we can get through it. That one and what was it?
It was like one of the Cruello ones and the

(01:22:15):
stone I love like accent. It was terrible. We clicked
out of it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:23):
I was like, no, oh, you didn't finish it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
You didn't finish watching it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:27):
It got really it gets really good.

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
Yeah, it gets really good, like you find out some
ship at the end, like what Like it was really
good and they doing a spot they're doing a sequels
to it. But because when it first came on, I
was like, you know, I don't know. But then later
on in the movie it got really good, like stuff
started coming together. Maybe I'll give it another go.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
Then maybe I judged it too quickly, but it was
like ten minutes in and I was just like, oh
my god, this accent is me. I was like, did
no one hire a coach?

Speaker 4 (01:23:09):
Like, oh, so you didn't like that playing her?

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
You didn't like.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
I mean, she she's a great actress, but she didn't
have to do that accent.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
Like I didn't want. I don't want to point out
that this is her fifth or sixth movie with an
ignoranshed accent, and she's considered one of the best English
accent people. Yeah, he's like he's like third or fourth
in the list of the best ignorant. Nah, I'm I'm

(01:23:40):
dead serious.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
No, I know you're serious, but I'm just like I
can't see it. I cannot, Like, did you guys think
her accent was good?

Speaker 4 (01:23:49):
Yeah, I didn't think it was bad. I mean I
didn't think it was I didn't think it was bad.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
You realize there are so there are so many people
who go from English to a mayor canized. And then
when people judge too harshly when someone goes from American
to English because if you hear Tom Holland speak, or
you hear a Wolverine, I can't think it was real.
Nuh Jackman speak whatever, or you don't think like they

(01:24:21):
guys live with strong English. Even a house has a
strong English accent when they speak regularly, but then they
have an American accent whatever, So y'all strong, Like people
judge too harshly when someone goes the opposite way.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
I guess they've just had time to perfect it too.
But like, I think it's also because I know someone
with like a British accent that I'm like, oh my god,
this is this was not it? I speak to someone
like regularly with like a true accent, and I'm like, no,

(01:24:57):
not the same. So I think I'm over judging it.
Think I'm just over judging it. I need to give
another chance.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
But lister, uh, mister Santana, we have went. We have
definitely went way over time. It's been fun telling where
can everybody find you? Get your content and everything, like,
you know, to experience us so sucking.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
You can google me on you can google me. They
don't have my whole thing on there a Santana xx
L and Google. You can go and find me on Twitter,
which is Santana x x L l L which is
three l's, and I'm all all on platforms only fans.
I'm now on Foreign Hub with restrictions because I was

(01:25:46):
on porn Hub for a little bit. But yeah, you
can find me on there now, but just putting Santana
XXL on the gate side. You can go to men
dot com. I got Citico scenes with Men dot com,
Santana xx L. I'm everywhere right now. Set for Instagram.
They keep suspending me, but you know, I'll be back
on there, but yeah, that's what you and if you google,

(01:26:11):
just google seeing say that, well on Google, yeah, I just.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
Googled you real quick. And I'm like, there is because
I can't keep.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
On Instagram for ship, Like I had one hundred thousand
followers on Instagram and then they suspended me. I don't
like yes, And then I made another page and I
got up to fifty thousand followers and I posted a
video on me kissing somebody and they suspended my whole
account after video me.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
I'm like that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:44):
There are people who go on these social media sites
and they just specifically report every picture.

Speaker 4 (01:26:54):
Oh yeah, I do have haters. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (01:26:56):
I do have haters because there are some people that
do want to see me feel like even with Twitter,
like I've had ten Twitter pages. Twin ten Twitter pages,
I'm almost at a billion followers now on Twitter. The
last page that was suspended, I had hit five hundred
k and literally the next day it was suspended and
I had to start over from scratch, like you know.

(01:27:17):
So like I'm blessed and happy that I'm able to
keep a page now. Then when because Twitter was very
volatile at that time, where people was getting suspended all
the time. So yeah, I'm happy that I'm that I'm
stable now, but that damn Instagram. But I've been suspending

(01:27:37):
a lot of people though.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
Yeah, they really study me.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
Really, it's something that it's something wrong with Instagram, like
that Whole Metal that whole Metal Place or whatever the
fuck you call it.

Speaker 4 (01:27:50):
They they just needed to send that round.

Speaker 3 (01:27:52):
I know somebody has six hundred K and they got suspended.
Like I know like twenty people that got suspended off
of Instagram for nothing. It's crazy. And they picking shoes
who they wanted to spend because we posting stuff and
be completely naked, no covering at all, and they will
let them still have their pages and stuff like that.

(01:28:14):
And but they'll suspend somebody for just a minor thing.
And I feel like it's not fair that they do
that to people. But they know what they're doing, they
know who, they know exactly what they be doing.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
And to my haters, whoever is trying to get rid
of those accounts, ILL always say there's always going to
be any one that's.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
Because I said I was going to take a month,
I said, you know what, they just despending me. I'm
gonna take a month. I'm gon want to take a
break or whatever, but I'm coming back. I think I'm
gonna make I think I'm gonna make it. I new
one to night, actually make one to night sweet because.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
That like I'm working on making a new one because
the one that I have now is my backup and
it's connected to Facebook, so it's more and C for
wick and so I want to make the other one
it be like my looted in stuff and live. This
one will be just like.

Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
And I just don't understand, like they suspend you even
when you do do save the worst stuff, like like
it's just it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
It's not just take a little longer.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
But yeah, And then I've.

Speaker 4 (01:29:21):
Seen people that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
That they they get one violation, it'll be their first violation,
and then they be they can't go live for a
whole year. It will say, oh, you can't go live
for three hundred and sixty five days. I know people
that's happened to when it's happened to me too, And
I'm like, what did I do that made me keeps
me from going I'm banned from going live for three

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hundred and sixty five days a year. Yeah, people have
gotten that, and I'm like, how the hell do you
get that?

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
Like it's crazy, Like yeah, I think I've only gotten
like a week or a month, like bands never longer
than that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:02):
Like it's been people that's been really popping up and
showing me because I've forgotten the same thing. And they said, oh,
you cannot go live for three hundred and sixty five days.
That means you can't live at all. Yeah, like forever.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
Page, That's that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:30:20):
I feel bad for people though, is my fair for real?

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
But we key persevering. We're gonna stay here and we're
gonna stay strong together.

Speaker 3 (01:30:31):
Hell yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
I don't know it's here. I said, you did you
say your current stuff?

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
Oh no, I haven't, but.

Speaker 3 (01:30:39):
You guys can tell me.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
I am Sarah Les dot Com. All of my links
and my social medias will.

Speaker 3 (01:30:45):
Be on there.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
We are the Bird, Babysit, Instagram, bur Baby business on Facebook, Twitter,
and blue Sky. I think for a second, Bird if
it's dot com that said everything we do from you know,
Sarah sex stuff, the photography stuff, video stuff, fit and stuff,
everything that we do, you can find me at rostar
r W S c A R R on Instagram and

(01:31:09):
on x Twitter. Whatever again, mister uh, mister Santae for
being our our season seven finale, Uh guests, you know
got it. Had had to end it right, you know,
go out with a bang. And you know, I didn't
realize this until I was talking to Sidera yesterday. You

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are our first gay mail performer talent too.

Speaker 3 (01:31:35):
So really.

Speaker 1 (01:31:39):
Because because we we've we've had like ts Is on
and we've had uh, you know, people of all of
all facets, but I'm like, we've never had to get
straight up gay mail performer on.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
I think we may have had to buy performer possibly,
but more of it in a don sense. Yeah, but
they are first.

Speaker 3 (01:32:04):
But but yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
So everybody please tune in next week. I have anting
who we have one, but it will be our season
eight startup, so we'll see y'alls in.

Speaker 3 (01:32:19):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
Season you for having me, I really appreciate it.