July 21, 2025 • 39 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, this is Brian here to present another bonus mini
episode that started as a conversation Zakie and I were
having right before we began our Fantastic four commentary. Since
this started as a conversation, the recording starts with ME
in the middle of telling Zaki what I thought about
the new legacyquel. I know what you did last summer
to bring you up to speed. Right before we started recording,
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I had told him that I wouldn't go so far
as to call the movie good, but after having seen
some abysmal reviews for it online and going in with
extremely low expectations aside from a few iroly script things,
I didn't hate it as a ninety minute diversion with
some friends. So I had finished telling him that, and
the recording begins in the middle of me telling Zaki
that I thought the director, Jennifer Caitlin Robinson has a
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pretty good eye for recreating what I think of as
a solid nineties look. Lastly, and most importantly, I begin
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interest in seeing the movie, skip ahead about fifteen minutes,
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we feel like there's just a lot of point and
shoot happening, okay with sorts of things and just which
is a style of its own. But you look back
at the nineties and even things that you thought of
as sort of straightforward at that time you're like, oh,
but no, there was there's a little pizazz to this,
Like they put that light there for a reason, and
the camera is a little lower than usual because they
want me to feel something. And you know the way
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something's lit is, you know, it's not calling attention to itself,
but it's properly moody or obscuring certain things. I thought
she did a great job doing just that. It actually
felt like a lost nineties movie in a really great way.
Like when I used to work at a studio, I
had to create directors' lists form my executive and just
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people who I thought would be good for a job.
And I actually, as I was watching the movie, thought, oh,
I'd put this person right at the top of one
of my lists.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Who is the director?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I don't know, so I don't have it pulled up.
But she'd done one or two other things that I
don't think were very big. But I just thought she
had a very confident, intentional style for the material. I mean,
you can say what you want about the script. You know,
maybe the script's not that great, but style wise reminded
me of everything I when I keep saying Oh. I
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love going back and revisiting nineties movies. It's because I think,
whether you notice it or not, there is intentionality to
it all. You know, there's a little bit of a
style that they've picked up from the people that they
grew up watching that I just feel like, now there's
a little bit more of a point and shoot thing
because and because people are just used to picking up
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their phones and pointing and shooting and just kind of
capturing the moment, which is fine, it's fine for certain things,
but I just miss, I don't know, a little bit
of a little bit of pizaz, and I thought this
had a subtle but to me noticeable bit of pizaz,
which I kind of appreciated.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Interest. Okay, well, I'm not gonna watch it, but yeah,
but it's nice to note that there's a there's young,
young filmmakers out there who are doing doing the best
they can with what they got. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, yeah, but it was interesting. I think alreadys oh yeah,
I already said this. See but yeah, Chad didn't like
it because in the first movie, it's like everyone is like,
we're gonna die, you know, and it's very serious, like
how do we figure out who this is. We've got
to stop this. We've got to put a stop to this.
Our friend just died. Let's more in our friend. And
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in this one, you know, after everything they've been through
and all the friends they lost, they literally drop like
a really tired, like some men would rather do blank
than go to therapy, you know, kind of joke about
everything they've been through, and it's like, really, your friends
are dead?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Wow? Is Sarah Michelle Geller in it? I saw her
listed somewhere and I was like.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
She is It's again. I you know, I know scream
way way better than I do the I know what
you see I know what I know now. I don't
say now you see me. I know what you did
last summer. I know what you see me last No,
you didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Look like a Wayne's Brothers movie. Doesn't it?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
It does? It does? She has kind of a cameo
that I was even thinking thinking as it was happening,
you could completely lift this out of the movie. Okay,
it adds absolutely nothing. However, it is nice to see everybody,
so you know, you get genderfer love Hewett.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
But doesn't she die in the in the previous one?
Am I wrong?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
So she is in a dream sequence where the young
girl in this one she, I guess, I don't remember
any of this, but like in the first one, apparently
she's not like a homecoming queen but something that has
to do with the town in a parade, like whatever
the town is called queen, like Cape Town Queen or something,
And so our young heroine in this movie is also
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the Cape Town Queen or something. So she kind of
feels this kinship, like, oh, we're being chased by this
killer and just like this person who was the queen
thirty years ago. And so she ends up having this
She falls asleep and has this dream where she sees
Sarah Michelle Geller in you know, with the crown and
holding the flowers, and they do this I would say,
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like pretty darn good de aging on her to make
her look like she did in ninety seven. And then
she starts being like you're gonna die, and then her
face decomposes and blah blah blah cool cool. Yeah, And
then she wakes up and I was like, oh, yeah,
you could totally lift this out if you wanted. But
on the other hand, it's like, eah, that's why we're here.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Right, And she wakes up. She's like, well that just happened.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You're right exactly, Yeah, like that dream was giving creepy,
you know, Like, I mean, it really did feel like
an adult wrote the script and then fed it into
AI and said, make gen Z just with like a
lot of them, like on the.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
What makes it extra depresient you just said? Is that
feels entirely possible, you know, probable even.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, And I mean the person who wrote it might
be like, I am gen Z, you idiot, you know,
Like so maybe I don't know, maybe it just all
seems very obvious and on the nose to me. But
but what's funny, as long as we're just talking spoilers
and whatever, what's funny is Jennifer love Hewitt is in it, okay,
and she serves like just the most minute of purposes.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Oh really, So it's not like a substantial role.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Not necessarily. I mean she's in it. Her and Freddy
Prinn's are in it the most, okay, And I mean
he ends up being the killer, so he has a
pretty big role. And it also feels again like I'm
not attached to this series.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah yeah, but if you're a fan, this feels like
very Jim Phelps.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yes, perfect exactly.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
I was.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I was gonna say, it'd be like if Sydney suddenly,
you know, turn out to be the killer in a
screen movie, it'd be like what f off?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
But like.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
So, I guess in a way, if they know people
are familiar with it but maybe not passionate about it,
that is like a interesting twist, right, But it made
me happy seeing him. He does a good job and
he looks like handsome, grizzled forty nine, You're like, wow,
the passage of time. But Jennifer love Hewitt, one of
the girls reaches out to her, like you've been through this,
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can you help me? And of course she's like I
don't want to be And.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Then the girl sees her and she's like, you're so
fat and ugly. Now I know, I know, Yeah, I
hate the world this week? Can I just tell you?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
You know that stupid discourse online? I know, But you
know it's funny because I kept thinking as I had
that in my head a little bit when she appears
in the movie and I was like, she's gorgeous, dude, what.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Are we doing? What are we even doing? And here's
what keptain. I'm like if you saw Jennifer love Hewett
as she looks right now at a bar, you would
be afraid to approach her.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Right right right right? You know, yeah, oh absolutely. I mean, well,
you know, I will say though usually it's just sort
of the darkness winning and we just sort of resign
and go, well that sucks. But it has been niceeing
the response to that.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Know people yet, like I've seen a lot of people
now posting and commenting like she's like incredible and she
looks amazing and you know, so it's it's nice seeing
that you don't always see a response like that.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I feel that's that's true. Well, I mean it just
these these these basement dwellers on the internet, you know,
I know Lex Luthor's monkeys with the electrodes.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
You yes, I mean that's gonna be frankly, that should
become like the shorthand now, you know, like an image
of that that we can just use. But and I
saw someone post that I appreciated this where it said
if you're ever going to comment on someone's body or
their looks, it should be a requirement that you have
to post a picture of yourself.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I think that seems that seems entirely fair.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I know, I know, it's so easy to hide behind
a keyboard.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Because these guys are inevitably doughey white guys with neck beards,
wearing backwards baseball cat throwing like gang signs and their
pro picks. You know. Yeah, I don't know that. I
haven't done a scientific study, but that's just my anecdotal observation.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, but but I it's funny. I hadn't planned on
watching this movie at all, Like, I had no plans,
not even on streaming to watch this, but my friends
wanted to go. And uh, and you're you're all about
peer pressure.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I respect that.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, well, I mean it helps when you have the
unlimited plan. You know, it's just you have very little
to lose. But it was funny because I had, you know, you.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Know, I was just gonna say, you know, what would
make this perfectly meta is if it's about a group
of kids who are who go to the the I
know what you did last summer meta legacy sequel and
then they end up hitting somebody on the way there.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Dude, that's a great idea. Actually, well that would be
like the what do you call that the Freddy's or
the Wes Craven The New Nightmare New Nightmare, Yes, where
Freddie invades the real lives of the actors and filmmakers
who make the Nightmare Elm Street movies. See, I think
that's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
There you go, So he missed opportunity. I lost to
the ages.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
You know what that reminds me. I did actually think
there was a couple interesting ideas in there about the
repercussions of the events of the first movie and how
the town became run down. And then there was a
guy who decided to rebuild the city and turn it
into a tourist destination. And now he's really wealthy and
his son is like this really wealthy kid and he's
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part of the group. And I was like, oh, there's
like a little lore building here. But the guy who's
the developer who turns the place around is played by
Billy Campbell, the freaking rocketeer.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Hey there he is. We love Billy, We celebrate Billy Campbell,
I do.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I actually turned to Chad, I was like.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Frock deer and he said the rocket who.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
He's like, okay, yeah, I'll.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Fall that guy anywhere.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
That made me happy, But yeah, between the three of us,
I had my friend Anna on my right, I had
Chad on my left, and me and Anna were like, hey,
that was fun. Like we had no expectation and it
was like, all right, I mean, if you show up
on a Friday night and actually leave your house to
go see I know what you did last summer the
Remaker sequel or whatever, you could do far worse. It
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passed the time and made me go, I think it's him. No,
I think it's her. I think you know whatever, and
then you don't think about it again. But yeah, Chad,
he was not having it, no because he and he
was He's not wrong. It's in the original everybody takes
everything very seriously and they're you know, scared, and in
this one, yeah, they don't seem they seem to forget
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to be scared occasionally and just serve up kind of
Internet you know, quote types of lines.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
But see, you know what's weird about that. I was thinking.
I was like, you know, one might say, oh, they're
trying to do like a scream thing, right, but even
Scream doesn't do that. What do you mean specifically, like
like scream it plays with the tropes of the horror genre,
but it never treats the situation and as something the
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characters aren't scared of.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
You know. That's a great point, you know. Yeah, yeah, everybody.
And I think they their effect.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I think that's why that franchise has lived on for
so long.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I agree, Yeah, because when I think of it, I
can't say I remember like the recent sequels terribly well,
but I do remember enjoying them, yeah enough, And yeah,
it's because they do know how to make you laugh. Well,
I think of that. I think it was the last one,
right with Samara Weaving at the beginning, and there was
like a real tension there and I felt really bad
for her.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, and then.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
When they did that little twist, you know, and then
we actually follow the killer for a little bit, I.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Was like, yeah, I get's a little different.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, yeah, it just but you know that that that
franchise has such an identity at this point and maybe
I know what you did last summer, doesn't I know what.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
You did last summer was first out the shoot after
scream blew Up back in the mid nineties, right, and
so it's sort of I think it has a little
bit of a warm glow just because of that. Yeah,
but you know, if you remember, there was that that
window where suddenly everybody was doing you know, teen slasher movies,
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that there was a brief resurgence and then you know
what was it the faculty, the yes, it was the
what there was what was the one with Joshua Jackson
Urban Legends? Urban Legend?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, yeah, there was a lot you know, yeah, yeah,
and then and then like that all gone, yeah yeah,
from from whence they came right.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Right, But it's uh, it's interesting thinking about it like
that where they're not necessary as far as I know,
coming up with new ones. Yeah, they're just recasting the
old ones, you know. I mean, I guess because the
names themselves, the titles have endured, that's right. But I
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will say it's it's funny, h I think they did
a pretty good job balancing the young cast and then
giving enough of the old cast where I felt like, hey,
the people I know, But the post credits scene it
was actually kind of funny. So in the sequel, I
still Know what you did last summer back in nineteen
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ninety eight, Jennifer Love Hewitt and a couple other people
I don't remember, and Brandy who plays her friend, they
go to the Bahamas and they're still being chased. Right, So, anyway,
in this one, during the credits, it cuts to Brandy
in her house with her husband watching the news. Jennifer
Love Hewitt is, you know, a picture of hers on
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the news, like oh, in this town and this woman
was involved in being chased, and Brandy's like, damn, you know,
the girl's always getting chased, you know. And then basically
it's like ding dong and Jennifer Love Hewitt's at her
doorstep and it's like it's not over, and she has
some sort of note. Then somehow I don't even remember how,
but it ties her and Andy together and Brandy's like,
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let's do this. They're going to go off hunting or something.
And it was funny because then, you know, me and
my friends were like, well, no, that's the movie I
want to see, right, thinking that, so if it does well,
maybe that's what the next one will be.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
And doesn't look like it's doing well, just oh really well,
I mean, I guess I can pull up the latest
right now while I'm talking to.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I mean, I'm sure Superman is going to dominate this week.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Superman. Superman's doing very well this weekend. It looks like
it's gonna it's only it's going to be down by
about fifty four percent from weekend to weekend, which is
pretty good.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, Let's see, we got Smurfs at twelve million, and
so that means I know what you do, Les summer
is going to be underneath that. Oh okay, So it
says I know what you'd last summer thirteen to fourteen million.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, just despite any heralding a prof by Sony and
I know what you summer of the net production costs
of eighteen million thirteen to fourteen million opening isn't a win.
It doesn't indicate any kind of revived interest in this
nineties fave, nineties fave property. I think fave is doing
a lot of lifting right there.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Nineties recognizable problem.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, I was about to say, but familiar property. I'm
just looking at Superman here. Real quick says. That's an
ease of fifty four percent second week in percent to decline,
on par with Deadpool and Wolverine and better than the
second weekend superhero holds we've seen here to date. So
Thunderbolts is down fifty six percent, Keptain America down sixty
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eight percent. Of course, second weekend fifty seven million, so
that would put it above two hundred million. So this
thing is is easily on track to crest three hundred million.
That means that's great, right. Yeah, I'm still seeing some
folks online like like like the diehards Man, They're like
they're like, you know, the Japanese troops on the island,
who didn't realize that Japan surrendered, you know, so decades
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later they think the war is still going. Yeah, they're
like watching all these gun fans watch Superman flop, you know,
and oh.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah, I've kind of seen that too, and it's like, oh,
I mean it is your television.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah, it's freaking weird because no, I mean they are
looking at these numbers. They're looking at the same numbers
you and I are looking at. They're like flop.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
And and it's trippy, man, because because it's like, okay,
let's let's let's follow you along your primrose path and
say that it is a flop. Do you think the
end of this story is Zack Snyder coming back with
Henry Cavill, like, what what do you think is happening?
Right right right? You know, did you see this interview
(18:40):
by the way of James gun it was. It was
on the the the what is it The Happy Said
Confused podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I'm not sure, but I think I may know what
you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Say about having to talk to Henry Cavell.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
I did, Yes, I just want to get my timeline
down right, because I was I was someone in the
middle of this in a weird way, because I talked
to Henry Cavell in the middle of when Black Adams
coming out.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Oh good good, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
And we love Henry of course, and like the sweet guy,
love him, and he has the cameo at the end.
We had a big moment on stage where he thought
he was coming back. We all thought he was coming back.
But maybe unbeknownst to him or not. You're already writing
a Superman movie, which is clearly for a different younger actor.
Then soon thereafter you get the gig as the head
of DCU. Correct, I have this roughly right.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Uh, yeah, that's right, yes, correct.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
So then at a certain point you and Peter have
to have that unfortunate phone call.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
I would know we sat down with him. We sat
down with Henry.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
So without revealing too much, I mean, can you what
is that like to have to be the guy to
tell Superman thank you for your time.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
We have to go a different way now. It's terrible.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
So, I mean I was so believe it or not.
I was the day we you know, are we? You know?
Speaker 5 (20:02):
So we were dealing with trying to figure out if
we could take the job at DC Studios and we're
talking to david' aslov and all the legal people they're
and figuring out what our deals would be. And the
dale day our deal closed, all of a sudden, they
were announcing that, you know, and that Henry was back,
and I'm like, what is going on? We know what
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the plan is, like, we we know what the plan is.
The plan was to come in and do Superman. So
it was it was really unfair to him and it
was a total bummer. But there was a vacuum at
the time, and a lot of people were trying to
be as diplomatic as possiblematic as a lot of people
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that that were to take on what they wanted to
do with it had they wanted to take on what
they wanted to do with DC, and We're trying to
force their way, and it just was never a part
of the equation for David's aslov who was the head
of a WBD. So so yeah, we came in and
that was really unfortunate. I'm like, this poor guy, and
so Peter and I are the right thing to do
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is to sit down with him and talk to him.
And when we sat down we talked to him. He
was an absolute gentleman, a great guy about it. He said,
the only thing I asked was that I'm able to
reveal it myself as opposed to it coming.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
From you guys.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
I'm like, that's that's why he's a class actors, has
been from the start. Yeah, is wouldn't be too confusing
to cast him in your DC universe going.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Toward is another character. Yeah, absolutely not. Yeah no, I
talked to him about it on that day, So yeah, no,
I would. I would love to put Henry in something. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Oh my god. It's like, well, well you guys, sorry,
Well it's just the way, first of all, you my
sense of James Gun is he seems like just a
decent guy, right, seems that way, right, And and so
he's in this situation where he's describing that basically they
got there in the process of getting the gig they
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get the gig. It hasn't been announced yet, been before
it's announced it, you know. And he doesn't mention Dwayne
the Rock Johnson, by the way, but he's basically like
Dwayne the Rock Johnson tried to, you know, he's too
polite to mention him by name, but he's like, some
folks were trying to do an end run, you know, right,
And so Henry Cavill announces, hey, I'm back, and James
Gunn is like, what is going on right?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Right?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Well, the day that he signed the deal right to
become the head of the DCU or whatever. Yeah, so yeah,
very strange and then just fortunate to have Henry Cavill
just sitting there, you know, becoming collateral damaged to all this.
I know, well, I'm not being able to be on
the same page.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
This is this is the quote he says. There was
a vacuum at the time, and a lot of people
were they had a take on what they wanted to
do at dc and they were trying to force their
way again Dwayne Johnson, and it was just never part
of the equation for David's aslot we came in and
that was really unfortunate. I'm like this poor guy, Henry Cavill,
you know, yeah, that bro got kicked around like a
(23:00):
ball man. I mean, seriously, it's it's it. It breaks
my heart because because he you know, it's like, oh,
oh rules, I wish i'd built you.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
You know, I love how much we use that that
by the way, It's just it works very well. But
he seems like a nice guy. And it what's also
fascinating is regardless of how people feel about those films,
it feels like, universally everybody liked Henry Cavill and his
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Superman period. Yeah, so you know, it's nice that he
can at least walk away with that, but it also
feels and and he does. I think you made a
point in the last episode. Those movies exist. There are
some like solid movies with Cavell being a solid Superman.
That's great. But gun, I don't know if it was
the same interview, but I saw him say that he
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would like to try to incorporate him in some other
type of role in this DCU, and I was like, awesome,
I think.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
They already got Jason momoay in there.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yeah, right, right exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
So why why not? Why not Henry Kevill? That would
be nice.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
By the way, have you been following just sort of
the the fallout from this cancelation of the The Colbert Show.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
A little bit? Yeah, I saw. I saw that Kermit
the Frog posted about it.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I saw. Even Jimmy Kimmel is like, f you, CBS.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, f you and all your Sheldons.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
And I mean that, I'll be honest, you know, the
last six months have been like, you know, dystopia adjacent, right,
And I don't think I've ever felt more like just
hopeless than in the wake of this show being canceled.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I agree, because obviously there are more world shattering things
that have been happening. But at the same time, this
just feels so like, oh, this really is like a
monster stomping through the city and not caring about what
buildings get smashed in their wake and just upending everything.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Dude, exactly, Like it's you know, because CBS put out
this statement like like this this has nothing to do
with you know, or whatever is happening at Paramount right now,
you know, And I'm like the old protests too much,
you know, yeah, yeah, And I'm like, you guys knew
what you were doing, you know, And I was saying
(25:27):
I was like, look, the reality is that the economics
of late night TV are trending in the wrong direction.
Anyway that that is the case.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, I mean the Seth Myers had to get rid
of his band recently I saw, yeah, exactly, And Jimmy
Kimmel also went from five nights a week to four,
So there is some belt tightening happening.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, no, no doubt. And I mean this is a
far cry from the Carson era, where like half the
country was watching TV at any given time, right. But
but the way this went down, you you can't convince
me that that it the the optics of the merger
didn't come into play. And this is the other thing, Oh,
sky Dance didn't have anything to do with this. Ye,
sky Dance didn't need to have anything to do with it,
(26:07):
you know, like a little nudge, a little glance can
can tell you, you know. And and uh, David Ellison, uh nepo,
baby David Ellison, I'm just gonna call him. Yeah, who's
who's totally in the trank tank for Trump? And so
is his dad and like all this stuff. It's it's
I I hate how this is where we're at.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Well, and then directly after like a day or whatever,
you know, you have Trump posting a tweet that essentially
says I am pleased.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah right, you know, so exactly. You know, yeah, it
just maybe Kimmel's next, you know, yeah, yeah, and and
and that that that was this this guess to my
point again, and you're what you said is so well stated. Look,
there's there's bigger stuff going on, but we're we've now
entered the realm of this person who criticizes the president
(26:59):
is not safe in terms of having having that forum
to do that. I'm sorry, but that is new.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah, yeah, well, and again, bigger things whatever, But it's
gotten to the point where it's literally changing the entertainment landscape.
Like that's almost a new kind of scary because those
things just feel like who cares? Yeah, you know, if
people are making entertainment that critiques or whatever. But like
when it's like enough attention is being paid to those
(27:28):
things now and those things must also be squashed, it's
like where does it end?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah, and and if he's Colbert, who was top rated
in that time slot, if they've you know, wave to
away his show on oh it's not financially viable, Well,
then that puts everybody else on shaky ground.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Well yeah, because he was the late night leader. Yeah,
he was getting the highest ratings, he was performing.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
That's right. So then it just it becomes a lot easier.
Like like, I don't see the Night Show going away
anytime soon because that is such an institution. But I
mean the Late Show had been an institution for thirty
plus years, right, yeah, oh yeah, I mean I love
what Colbert said. He's like, he's like, they're they're not
(28:14):
bringing somebody else on. This is all just going away. Yeah,
you know, And again there's just something about that where
I'm just like, this is not right. Yeah, you know,
like like I was talking to Amena yesterday, I was like,
you know, Saturday Night Live has been on since nineteen
seventy five. How many presidents has it made fun of?
There's only one president who complains about being made fun
(28:36):
of on Saturday Night, Right, I'm like, is SNL next?
You know? I don't think so? Yeah, is anything certain anymore?
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I mean, now, once the first domino drops, who is
to say.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
It just it and it's I don't know, it's really weird.
I and granted this it's maybe it's because I view
the world through like a media lens. But but I
just felt so down yesterday and just reading about this
and the and the machinations around it, I'm like, this
is it's just it's just not right, you know what's happening.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
The other thing is that Colbert is just a just
a good dude. That's the other thing.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
That's what you hear from everyone.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah. I I was going through my phone yesterday and
I had this video saved from I don't even know when,
but it was when Dua Lipa was on his show
and and she was talking. She asked him a question
about like, how do you because he's, you know, he's
a man of faith and you know, a very devout Catholic.
And she's like, how do you, you know, incorporate your faith
(29:41):
into into humor and without it being cynical and whatever,
And and he he held forth quite eloquently about how
you know, when you when you give in to despair,
it makes you more susceptible to evil. And this is
why we laugh so that we don't give into dispairitis.
(30:02):
And I'm not doing service to to what he said,
but it was it was eloquent and poignant and such
a window into his thinking.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Actually, I think you said it quite well. It's really
uh makes a lot of sense, is something, right?
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah, And so yeah, anyway, that's I was just thinking,
because the more I read on this, I'm like, man,
this this thinks, you know, I know, this whole thing,
it stinks to high heaven. And it's just it's just
it's just the wealthiest getting wealthier. And you know, again,
just to be clear, like Stephen Colbert will be fine.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Sure, of course, yeah, somewhere and hopefully still be able.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
To Like i mean, he could just retire right now,
and I'm sure he'd be he could sure, Yeah, but yeah,
I'm sure the truth of it is that that he
will find there will be other people ready racing to
hire him.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
And you know, I was reading about how John Stewart
is probably on Justice thin Ice now.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
You're right, well, yeah, because he's on Comedy Central.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Right, part of the same corporate hierarchy. And he he
had given a quote because he has he has a
YouTube show called The Weekly Show Okay, which is an
adjunct to the Daily Show, and it's just him interviewed.
It's actually a great shows. He has fascinating interviews. But
he addressed some of the speculation. This is before Colbert
got fired, and he's like, look, whatever happens. I mean,
I've been fired from shittier places than this, and all
(31:32):
these guys they're gonna land somewhere. So so to be clear,
it's you know, it's this is not like, you know,
the First Amendment has been wiped off the dry erase. Uh,
these people will land somewhere. But the precedent is not
what I'm thrilled with exactly. You know. But if I
were to guess, uh, Colbert's got ten more months and
(31:55):
he's he's not gonna pump.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
The brakes, I was wondering about that. Yeah, he's he's
on through next May. Yeah, so I'm curious how he
will use that time.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
You know, he'll go in a blaze of glory like
when Conan was leaving the Tonight Show, remember that.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Mm hm oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
But also in addition to that, I think that Seth Myers.
I think that that Jimmy Kimmel, maybe to some extent,
Jimmy Fallon or as Trump called him, the moron, hosting
the Tonight Show, and I was thinking, I was like
I was like, Jimmy Fallon was the guy who had
(32:31):
trump on and he tussled his hair and.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Made yeah quite famously right, and he kind.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Of made him look good. Yeah, So I mean this
guy anyway. My point is, all these guys they're gonna
they're gonna up their game in my opinion, right right
I I I will. I don't know Jimmy Kimmel, but
I will speak on his behalf. He will for sure
up his game, right he will. He will dare them
to fire him.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Oh yeah, yeah, he like lives for this.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
So man, you know I say this all the time.
Can we not live in interesting times? Can we? Can
we try that for a little while.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Well, you know, to possibly end on a bit more
of a positive note, living in interesting times? At least
one thing is for certain. What's one year from now?
I know I have my tickets secured to watch The
Odyssey in an IMAX theater.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
You got your ticket? No?
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I didn't. I was like, I don't know what I'm
gonna be doing, Like one month from now, How'm I
can't plan? What are we doing? Literally a year from now?
Speaker 2 (33:31):
I saw people talking about this on social media. They're like,
I got my tickets and they and they you know,
they shared a screen grab and it's like a full auditorium.
I'm like, what movie? And then I'm like the Odyssey.
What you know. I'm like, is it like a trailer
for the Odyssey? No? No, no, it's the Odyssey, like
you said, a year from now. And I'm like, what
what it's like spaceballs.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
They're like, we're still making it, like literally, they're still
making it.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
And then adjunc to that, oh, people are now scalping
Odyssey tickets and I'm like, we are truly trapped in
the dumbest of all possible timelines.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Tickets are getting scalped for a movie that is still
in production. That iss and also like two.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Hundred dollars people are selling them for.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
See there's something. When I heard that they were doing that,
I was like, oh, it just it feels like a
publicity thing, Like okay, whatever, that's kind of funny. But yeah,
when it comes to that then where it's like you
can't even it's not even safe to get a ticket
for the movie you want to see, just as an
average movie going person, like everything must become like a
(34:36):
Taylor Swift ticket and be like thousands of dollars for
you to just do the thing that you should be
able to do at your corner movie theater. Like that
feels like a bummer.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I agree, However, I'm not saying I respect the scalpers. However,
if you have a seat and somebody is dumb enough
pay you two hundred dollars for that seat, right, I
would say make that money.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Well, I guess, yeah, you don't know what people are
working with. Maybe they if they have the money, the
means to spend that much, and it means that much
to them all, all right.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Like if you think you will not be able to
watch the Odyssey when you want to unless you get
that two hundred dollars ticket, you know what, maybe maybe
you should not have that money.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
I agree with that, but I also do think it's
a bit of a bummer. I know this will be different,
it'll probably play longer. But when Interstellar came back to
theaters this year, yeah, and it was next to impossible
to get a ticket. It played at least for a week.
I don't know if it went longer, but it was.
I mean, nine AM screenings of Interstellar were sold out
at Imax theaters, and of course that if you're a fan,
(35:49):
you would like to see it in that format, because
when you're going to get that opportunity again. And of course,
well this is no one is known for Imax, but
this is the first movie he's doing where the entire
movie is being filmed with IMAX cameras, and of course
that's the version I want to see. But I just
it's kind of a bummer that I have to think,
already you're in advance. I'm gonna have a really hard
(36:11):
time doing that.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
That's you don't be funny is if if like the
camera pulls out and we see who's the scalper and
it's Christopher Nolan. Yeah, he's like bugs Bunny at the
end of that Daffy Duck cartoon, you know, like, ain't
I a Stinka? You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's like
checking his PayPal account, you know, as is Ben Mogoes
(36:33):
King Jing Jing.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
You're but you know it's fine, I mean, harping on
the negative parts of it. I am kind of amused
by it. Like when I saw the story, I thought
it was really funny. I've never seen anything like that before.
It is very twenty twenty five, and I mean, are
theaters even equipped to their Excel spreadsheets go that far
to like have like what if a theater doesn't even
(36:55):
exist in a year from now, Like they're selling seats
right in a you know, the theater that I go
to is being renovated right now, so you know, certain
certain rooms they're basically converting sort of older screening rooms
into seats now that recline, so they have less seats
in them, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Like, it's just who.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Knows, like a year from now what those rooms are
even gonna look like the seats that you're selling, And
I just find it kind of amusing.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Here's what I'm picturing. I'm picturing trying to explain this
to yourself in nineteen ninety five, and you're like Doc
Brown in Back to the Future, so here and we're
trying to get the tickets and it's a year out.
It's like, oh, in the future, movie theaters must have
become big arenas and you know, like claudiated spectacles perhaps,
(37:41):
you know, and you're like, oh, no, it's just.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
No, they're smaller, but the receipts reclined.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Just the whole idea, like the fact that you reserve seats,
you're able to get on an app a you're out,
Like every step of that process would would be just
absolute argo bargle to you in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
It would And there's waiters that bring to it directly
to you. Is that amazing? No, it's very annoying. They
give you the bill in the last ten minutes of
the movie when you're trying to see what happens.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Yeah, I'm not fan, by the way, one of those.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yeah, I'm with you on that. Super annoying.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yeah, although I will say in defense, I was just
at an AMC recently that did that that. You know,
I had the dining thing, but their policy was you
have to take care of all of it, you know,
a certain amount of time before the movie starts. So
I was like, all right, well that feels like we're evolving.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Take so take care of your bill before the movie starts.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
I don't know about the bill, but it was like
the food and the ordering and.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
The whole process, so they can't bring it to you
while the movie's going.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
That's that's what's I overheard. We didn't order anything, but
I overheard someone telling that to a person near me.
So I was like, well, that's that's better because it
used to be. You know, the other theaters I've been to,
it was just so obnoxious. And then you have to
they keep going down the aisles and dropping bills, and
they're looking for the persons.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
You know, they're like, okay, you actually, when you think
about it from a theater perspective, that actually kind of
makes sense. Is what you say is we will stop
delivering food to the seat five minutes before the movie starts. Yeah, right,
and or whatever like during commercials. Right, But it forces
people to have to come early and watch the commercials,
(39:26):
which is what theaters want. That's a great point as
opposed to people just rolling up right, you know, yeah, yep,
I don't know. I'm not telling you how to do
your job theaters. You know, it makes sense to me,
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I didn't hate it as a ninety minute diversion with
some friends. So I had finished telling him that, and
the recording begins in the middle of me telling Zaki
that I thought the director, Jennifer Caitlin Robinson has a
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we feel like there's just a lot of point and
shoot happening, okay with sorts of things and just which
is a style of its own. But you look back
at the nineties and even things that you thought of
as sort of straightforward at that time you're like, oh,
but no, there was there's a little pizazz to this,
Like they put that light there for a reason, and
the camera is a little lower than usual because they
want me to feel something. And you know the way
(02:10):
something's lit is, you know, it's not calling attention to itself,
but it's properly moody or obscuring certain things. I thought
she did a great job doing just that. It actually
felt like a lost nineties movie in a really great way.
Like when I used to work at a studio, I
had to create directors' lists form my executive and just
(02:33):
people who I thought would be good for a job.
And I actually, as I was watching the movie, thought, oh,
I'd put this person right at the top of one
of my lists.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Who is the director?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I don't know, so I don't have it pulled up.
But she'd done one or two other things that I
don't think were very big. But I just thought she
had a very confident, intentional style for the material. I mean,
you can say what you want about the script. You know,
maybe the script's not that great, but style wise reminded
me of everything I when I keep saying Oh. I
(03:02):
love going back and revisiting nineties movies. It's because I think,
whether you notice it or not, there is intentionality to
it all. You know, there's a little bit of a
style that they've picked up from the people that they
grew up watching that I just feel like, now there's
a little bit more of a point and shoot thing
because and because people are just used to picking up
(03:23):
their phones and pointing and shooting and just kind of
capturing the moment, which is fine, it's fine for certain things,
but I just miss, I don't know, a little bit
of a little bit of pizaz, and I thought this
had a subtle but to me noticeable bit of pizaz,
which I kind of appreciated.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Interest. Okay, well, I'm not gonna watch it, but yeah,
but it's nice to note that there's a there's young,
young filmmakers out there who are doing doing the best
they can with what they got. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, yeah, but it was interesting. I think alreadys oh yeah,
I already said this. See but yeah, Chad didn't like
it because in the first movie, it's like everyone is like,
we're gonna die, you know, and it's very serious, like
how do we figure out who this is. We've got
to stop this. We've got to put a stop to this.
Our friend just died. Let's more in our friend. And
(04:12):
in this one, you know, after everything they've been through
and all the friends they lost, they literally drop like
a really tired, like some men would rather do blank
than go to therapy, you know, kind of joke about
everything they've been through, and it's like, really, your friends
are dead?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Wow? Is Sarah Michelle Geller in it? I saw her
listed somewhere and I was like.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
She is It's again. I you know, I know scream
way way better than I do the I know what
you see I know what I know now. I don't
say now you see me. I know what you did
last summer. I know what you see me last No,
you didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Look like a Wayne's Brothers movie. Doesn't it?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
It does? It does? She has kind of a cameo
that I was even thinking thinking as it was happening,
you could completely lift this out of the movie. Okay,
it adds absolutely nothing. However, it is nice to see everybody,
so you know, you get genderfer love Hewett.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
But doesn't she die in the in the previous one?
Am I wrong?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
So she is in a dream sequence where the young
girl in this one she, I guess, I don't remember
any of this, but like in the first one, apparently
she's not like a homecoming queen but something that has
to do with the town in a parade, like whatever
the town is called queen, like Cape Town Queen or something,
And so our young heroine in this movie is also
(05:39):
the Cape Town Queen or something. So she kind of
feels this kinship, like, oh, we're being chased by this
killer and just like this person who was the queen
thirty years ago. And so she ends up having this
She falls asleep and has this dream where she sees
Sarah Michelle Geller in you know, with the crown and
holding the flowers, and they do this I would say,
(06:00):
like pretty darn good de aging on her to make
her look like she did in ninety seven. And then
she starts being like you're gonna die, and then her
face decomposes and blah blah blah cool cool. Yeah, And
then she wakes up and I was like, oh, yeah,
you could totally lift this out if you wanted. But
on the other hand, it's like, eah, that's why we're here.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Right, And she wakes up. She's like, well that just happened.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You're right exactly, Yeah, like that dream was giving creepy,
you know, Like, I mean, it really did feel like
an adult wrote the script and then fed it into
AI and said, make gen Z just with like a
lot of them, like on the.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
What makes it extra depresient you just said? Is that
feels entirely possible, you know, probable even.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, And I mean the person who wrote it might
be like, I am gen Z, you idiot, you know,
Like so maybe I don't know, maybe it just all
seems very obvious and on the nose to me. But
but what's funny, as long as we're just talking spoilers
and whatever, what's funny is Jennifer love Hewitt is in it, okay,
and she serves like just the most minute of purposes.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Oh really, So it's not like a substantial role.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Not necessarily. I mean she's in it. Her and Freddy
Prinn's are in it the most, okay, And I mean
he ends up being the killer, so he has a
pretty big role. And it also feels again like I'm
not attached to this series.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah yeah, but if you're a fan, this feels like
very Jim Phelps.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yes, perfect exactly.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
I was.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I was gonna say, it'd be like if Sydney suddenly,
you know, turn out to be the killer in a
screen movie, it'd be like what f off?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
But like.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
So, I guess in a way, if they know people
are familiar with it but maybe not passionate about it,
that is like a interesting twist, right, But it made
me happy seeing him. He does a good job and
he looks like handsome, grizzled forty nine, You're like, wow,
the passage of time. But Jennifer love Hewitt, one of
the girls reaches out to her, like you've been through this,
(08:05):
can you help me? And of course she's like I
don't want to be And.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Then the girl sees her and she's like, you're so
fat and ugly. Now I know, I know, Yeah, I
hate the world this week? Can I just tell you?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
You know that stupid discourse online? I know, But you
know it's funny because I kept thinking as I had
that in my head a little bit when she appears
in the movie and I was like, she's gorgeous, dude, what.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Are we doing? What are we even doing? And here's
what keptain. I'm like if you saw Jennifer love Hewett
as she looks right now at a bar, you would
be afraid to approach her.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Right right right right? You know, yeah, oh absolutely. I mean, well,
you know, I will say though usually it's just sort
of the darkness winning and we just sort of resign
and go, well that sucks. But it has been niceeing
the response to that.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Know people yet, like I've seen a lot of people
now posting and commenting like she's like incredible and she
looks amazing and you know, so it's it's nice seeing
that you don't always see a response like that.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I feel that's that's true. Well, I mean it just
these these these basement dwellers on the internet, you know,
I know Lex Luthor's monkeys with the electrodes.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
You yes, I mean that's gonna be frankly, that should
become like the shorthand now, you know, like an image
of that that we can just use. But and I
saw someone post that I appreciated this where it said
if you're ever going to comment on someone's body or
their looks, it should be a requirement that you have
to post a picture of yourself.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I think that seems that seems entirely fair.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I know, I know, it's so easy to hide behind
a keyboard.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Because these guys are inevitably doughey white guys with neck beards,
wearing backwards baseball cat throwing like gang signs and their
pro picks. You know. Yeah, I don't know that. I
haven't done a scientific study, but that's just my anecdotal observation.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, but but I it's funny. I hadn't planned on
watching this movie at all, Like, I had no plans,
not even on streaming to watch this, but my friends
wanted to go. And uh, and you're you're all about
peer pressure.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I respect that.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, well, I mean it helps when you have the
unlimited plan. You know, it's just you have very little
to lose. But it was funny because I had, you know, you.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Know, I was just gonna say, you know, what would
make this perfectly meta is if it's about a group
of kids who are who go to the the I
know what you did last summer meta legacy sequel and
then they end up hitting somebody on the way there.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Dude, that's a great idea. Actually, well that would be
like the what do you call that the Freddy's or
the Wes Craven The New Nightmare New Nightmare, Yes, where
Freddie invades the real lives of the actors and filmmakers
who make the Nightmare Elm Street movies. See, I think
that's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
There you go, So he missed opportunity. I lost to
the ages.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
You know what that reminds me. I did actually think
there was a couple interesting ideas in there about the
repercussions of the events of the first movie and how
the town became run down. And then there was a
guy who decided to rebuild the city and turn it
into a tourist destination. And now he's really wealthy and
his son is like this really wealthy kid and he's
(11:23):
part of the group. And I was like, oh, there's
like a little lore building here. But the guy who's
the developer who turns the place around is played by
Billy Campbell, the freaking rocketeer.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Hey there he is. We love Billy, We celebrate Billy Campbell,
I do.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I actually turned to Chad, I was like.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Frock deer and he said the rocket who.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
He's like, okay, yeah, I'll.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Fall that guy anywhere.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
That made me happy, But yeah, between the three of us,
I had my friend Anna on my right, I had
Chad on my left, and me and Anna were like, hey,
that was fun. Like we had no expectation and it
was like, all right, I mean, if you show up
on a Friday night and actually leave your house to
go see I know what you did last summer the
Remaker sequel or whatever, you could do far worse. It
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passed the time and made me go, I think it's him. No,
I think it's her. I think you know whatever, and
then you don't think about it again. But yeah, Chad,
he was not having it, no because he and he
was He's not wrong. It's in the original everybody takes
everything very seriously and they're you know, scared, and in
this one, yeah, they don't seem they seem to forget
(12:32):
to be scared occasionally and just serve up kind of
Internet you know, quote types of lines.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
But see, you know what's weird about that. I was thinking.
I was like, you know, one might say, oh, they're
trying to do like a scream thing, right, but even
Scream doesn't do that. What do you mean specifically, like
like scream it plays with the tropes of the horror genre,
but it never treats the situation and as something the
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characters aren't scared of.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
You know. That's a great point, you know. Yeah, yeah, everybody.
And I think they their effect.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I think that's why that franchise has lived on for
so long.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I agree, Yeah, because when I think of it, I
can't say I remember like the recent sequels terribly well,
but I do remember enjoying them, yeah enough, And yeah,
it's because they do know how to make you laugh. Well,
I think of that. I think it was the last one,
right with Samara Weaving at the beginning, and there was
like a real tension there and I felt really bad
for her.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, and then.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
When they did that little twist, you know, and then
we actually follow the killer for a little bit, I.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Was like, yeah, I get's a little different.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, yeah, it just but you know that that that
franchise has such an identity at this point and maybe
I know what you did last summer, doesn't I know what.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
You did last summer was first out the shoot after
scream blew Up back in the mid nineties, right, and
so it's sort of I think it has a little
bit of a warm glow just because of that. Yeah,
but you know, if you remember, there was that that
window where suddenly everybody was doing you know, teen slasher movies,
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that there was a brief resurgence and then you know
what was it the faculty, the yes, it was the
what there was what was the one with Joshua Jackson
Urban Legends? Urban Legend?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, yeah, there was a lot you know, yeah, yeah,
and then and then like that all gone, yeah yeah,
from from whence they came right.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Right, But it's uh, it's interesting thinking about it like
that where they're not necessary as far as I know,
coming up with new ones. Yeah, they're just recasting the
old ones, you know. I mean, I guess because the
names themselves, the titles have endured, that's right. But I
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will say it's it's funny, h I think they did
a pretty good job balancing the young cast and then
giving enough of the old cast where I felt like, hey,
the people I know, But the post credits scene it
was actually kind of funny. So in the sequel, I
still Know what you did last summer back in nineteen
(15:18):
ninety eight, Jennifer Love Hewitt and a couple other people
I don't remember, and Brandy who plays her friend, they
go to the Bahamas and they're still being chased. Right, So, anyway,
in this one, during the credits, it cuts to Brandy
in her house with her husband watching the news. Jennifer
Love Hewitt is, you know, a picture of hers on
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the news, like oh, in this town and this woman
was involved in being chased, and Brandy's like, damn, you know,
the girl's always getting chased, you know. And then basically
it's like ding dong and Jennifer Love Hewitt's at her
doorstep and it's like it's not over, and she has
some sort of note. Then somehow I don't even remember how,
but it ties her and Andy together and Brandy's like,
(16:02):
let's do this. They're going to go off hunting or something.
And it was funny because then, you know, me and
my friends were like, well, no, that's the movie I
want to see, right, thinking that, so if it does well,
maybe that's what the next one will be.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
And doesn't look like it's doing well, just oh really well,
I mean, I guess I can pull up the latest
right now while I'm talking to.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I mean, I'm sure Superman is going to dominate this week.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Superman. Superman's doing very well this weekend. It looks like
it's gonna it's only it's going to be down by
about fifty four percent from weekend to weekend, which is
pretty good.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, Let's see, we got Smurfs at twelve million, and
so that means I know what you do, Les summer
is going to be underneath that. Oh okay, So it
says I know what you'd last summer thirteen to fourteen million.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, just despite any heralding a prof by Sony and
I know what you summer of the net production costs
of eighteen million thirteen to fourteen million opening isn't a win.
It doesn't indicate any kind of revived interest in this
nineties fave, nineties fave property. I think fave is doing
a lot of lifting right there.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Nineties recognizable problem.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, I was about to say, but familiar property. I'm
just looking at Superman here. Real quick says. That's an
ease of fifty four percent second week in percent to decline,
on par with Deadpool and Wolverine and better than the
second weekend superhero holds we've seen here to date. So
Thunderbolts is down fifty six percent, Keptain America down sixty
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eight percent. Of course, second weekend fifty seven million, so
that would put it above two hundred million. So this
thing is is easily on track to crest three hundred million.
That means that's great, right. Yeah, I'm still seeing some
folks online like like like the diehards Man, They're like
they're like, you know, the Japanese troops on the island,
who didn't realize that Japan surrendered, you know, so decades
(17:56):
later they think the war is still going. Yeah, they're
like watching all these gun fans watch Superman flop, you know,
and oh.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah, I've kind of seen that too, and it's like, oh,
I mean it is your television.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah, it's freaking weird because no, I mean they are
looking at these numbers. They're looking at the same numbers
you and I are looking at. They're like flop.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
And and it's trippy, man, because because it's like, okay,
let's let's let's follow you along your primrose path and
say that it is a flop. Do you think the
end of this story is Zack Snyder coming back with
Henry Cavill, like, what what do you think is happening?
Right right right? You know, did you see this interview
(18:40):
by the way of James gun it was. It was
on the the the what is it The Happy Said
Confused podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I'm not sure, but I think I may know what
you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Say about having to talk to Henry Cavell.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
I did, Yes, I just want to get my timeline
down right, because I was I was someone in the
middle of this in a weird way, because I talked
to Henry Cavell in the middle of when Black Adams
coming out.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Oh good good, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
And we love Henry of course, and like the sweet guy,
love him, and he has the cameo at the end.
We had a big moment on stage where he thought
he was coming back. We all thought he was coming back.
But maybe unbeknownst to him or not. You're already writing
a Superman movie, which is clearly for a different younger actor.
Then soon thereafter you get the gig as the head
of DCU. Correct, I have this roughly right.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Uh, yeah, that's right, yes, correct.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
So then at a certain point you and Peter have
to have that unfortunate phone call.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
I would know we sat down with him. We sat
down with Henry.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
So without revealing too much, I mean, can you what
is that like to have to be the guy to
tell Superman thank you for your time.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
We have to go a different way now. It's terrible.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
So, I mean I was so believe it or not.
I was the day we you know, are we? You know?
Speaker 5 (20:02):
So we were dealing with trying to figure out if
we could take the job at DC Studios and we're
talking to david' aslov and all the legal people they're
and figuring out what our deals would be. And the
dale day our deal closed, all of a sudden, they
were announcing that, you know, and that Henry was back,
and I'm like, what is going on? We know what
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the plan is, like, we we know what the plan is.
The plan was to come in and do Superman. So
it was it was really unfair to him and it
was a total bummer. But there was a vacuum at
the time, and a lot of people were trying to
be as diplomatic as possiblematic as a lot of people
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that that were to take on what they wanted to
do with it had they wanted to take on what
they wanted to do with DC, and We're trying to
force their way, and it just was never a part
of the equation for David's aslov who was the head
of a WBD. So so yeah, we came in and
that was really unfortunate. I'm like, this poor guy, and
so Peter and I are the right thing to do
(21:06):
is to sit down with him and talk to him.
And when we sat down we talked to him. He
was an absolute gentleman, a great guy about it. He said,
the only thing I asked was that I'm able to
reveal it myself as opposed to it coming.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
From you guys.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
I'm like, that's that's why he's a class actors, has
been from the start. Yeah, is wouldn't be too confusing
to cast him in your DC universe going.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Toward is another character. Yeah, absolutely not. Yeah no, I
talked to him about it on that day, So yeah, no,
I would. I would love to put Henry in something. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Oh my god. It's like, well, well you guys, sorry,
Well it's just the way, first of all, you my
sense of James Gun is he seems like just a
decent guy, right, seems that way, right, And and so
he's in this situation where he's describing that basically they
got there in the process of getting the gig they
(21:56):
get the gig. It hasn't been announced yet, been before
it's announced it, you know. And he doesn't mention Dwayne
the Rock Johnson, by the way, but he's basically like
Dwayne the Rock Johnson tried to, you know, he's too
polite to mention him by name, but he's like, some
folks were trying to do an end run, you know, right,
And so Henry Cavill announces, hey, I'm back, and James
Gunn is like, what is going on right?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Right?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Well, the day that he signed the deal right to
become the head of the DCU or whatever. Yeah, so yeah,
very strange and then just fortunate to have Henry Cavill
just sitting there, you know, becoming collateral damaged to all this.
I know, well, I'm not being able to be on
the same page.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
This is this is the quote he says. There was
a vacuum at the time, and a lot of people
were they had a take on what they wanted to
do at dc and they were trying to force their
way again Dwayne Johnson, and it was just never part
of the equation for David's aslot we came in and
that was really unfortunate. I'm like this poor guy, Henry Cavill,
you know, yeah, that bro got kicked around like a
(23:00):
ball man. I mean, seriously, it's it's it. It breaks
my heart because because he you know, it's like, oh,
oh rules, I wish i'd built you.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
You know, I love how much we use that that
by the way, It's just it works very well. But
he seems like a nice guy. And it what's also
fascinating is regardless of how people feel about those films,
it feels like, universally everybody liked Henry Cavill and his
(23:30):
Superman period. Yeah, so you know, it's nice that he
can at least walk away with that, but it also
feels and and he does. I think you made a
point in the last episode. Those movies exist. There are
some like solid movies with Cavell being a solid Superman.
That's great. But gun, I don't know if it was
the same interview, but I saw him say that he
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would like to try to incorporate him in some other
type of role in this DCU, and I was like, awesome,
I think.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
They already got Jason momoay in there.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yeah, right, right exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
So why why not? Why not Henry Kevill? That would
be nice.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
By the way, have you been following just sort of
the the fallout from this cancelation of the The Colbert Show.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
A little bit? Yeah, I saw. I saw that Kermit
the Frog posted about it.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I saw. Even Jimmy Kimmel is like, f you, CBS.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, f you and all your Sheldons.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
And I mean that, I'll be honest, you know, the
last six months have been like, you know, dystopia adjacent, right,
And I don't think I've ever felt more like just
hopeless than in the wake of this show being canceled.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I agree, because obviously there are more world shattering things
that have been happening. But at the same time, this
just feels so like, oh, this really is like a
monster stomping through the city and not caring about what
buildings get smashed in their wake and just upending everything.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Dude, exactly, Like it's you know, because CBS put out
this statement like like this this has nothing to do
with you know, or whatever is happening at Paramount right now,
you know, And I'm like the old protests too much,
you know, yeah, yeah, And I'm like, you guys knew
what you were doing, you know, And I was saying
(25:27):
I was like, look, the reality is that the economics
of late night TV are trending in the wrong direction.
Anyway that that is the case.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, I mean the Seth Myers had to get rid
of his band recently I saw, yeah, exactly, And Jimmy
Kimmel also went from five nights a week to four,
So there is some belt tightening happening.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, no, no doubt. And I mean this is a
far cry from the Carson era, where like half the
country was watching TV at any given time, right. But
but the way this went down, you you can't convince
me that that it the the optics of the merger
didn't come into play. And this is the other thing, Oh,
sky Dance didn't have anything to do with this. Ye,
sky Dance didn't need to have anything to do with it,
(26:07):
you know, like a little nudge, a little glance can
can tell you, you know. And and uh, David Ellison, uh nepo,
baby David Ellison, I'm just gonna call him. Yeah, who's
who's totally in the trank tank for Trump? And so
is his dad and like all this stuff. It's it's
I I hate how this is where we're at.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Well, and then directly after like a day or whatever,
you know, you have Trump posting a tweet that essentially
says I am pleased.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah right, you know, so exactly. You know, yeah, it
just maybe Kimmel's next, you know, yeah, yeah, and and
and that that that was this this guess to my
point again, and you're what you said is so well stated. Look,
there's there's bigger stuff going on, but we're we've now
entered the realm of this person who criticizes the president
(26:59):
is not safe in terms of having having that forum
to do that. I'm sorry, but that is new.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah, yeah, well, and again, bigger things whatever, But it's
gotten to the point where it's literally changing the entertainment landscape.
Like that's almost a new kind of scary because those
things just feel like who cares? Yeah, you know, if
people are making entertainment that critiques or whatever. But like
when it's like enough attention is being paid to those
(27:28):
things now and those things must also be squashed, it's
like where does it end?
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah, and and if he's Colbert, who was top rated
in that time slot, if they've you know, wave to
away his show on oh it's not financially viable, Well,
then that puts everybody else on shaky ground.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Well yeah, because he was the late night leader. Yeah,
he was getting the highest ratings, he was performing.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
That's right. So then it just it becomes a lot easier.
Like like, I don't see the Night Show going away
anytime soon because that is such an institution. But I
mean the Late Show had been an institution for thirty
plus years, right, yeah, oh yeah, I mean I love
what Colbert said. He's like, he's like, they're they're not
(28:14):
bringing somebody else on. This is all just going away. Yeah,
you know, And again there's just something about that where
I'm just like, this is not right. Yeah, you know,
like like I was talking to Amena yesterday, I was like,
you know, Saturday Night Live has been on since nineteen
seventy five. How many presidents has it made fun of?
There's only one president who complains about being made fun
(28:36):
of on Saturday Night, Right, I'm like, is SNL next?
You know? I don't think so? Yeah, is anything certain anymore?
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I mean, now, once the first domino drops, who is
to say.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
It just it and it's I don't know, it's really weird.
I and granted this it's maybe it's because I view
the world through like a media lens. But but I
just felt so down yesterday and just reading about this
and the and the machinations around it, I'm like, this
is it's just it's just not right, you know what's happening.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
The other thing is that Colbert is just a just
a good dude. That's the other thing.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
That's what you hear from everyone.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah. I I was going through my phone yesterday and
I had this video saved from I don't even know when,
but it was when Dua Lipa was on his show
and and she was talking. She asked him a question
about like, how do you because he's, you know, he's
a man of faith and you know, a very devout Catholic.
And she's like, how do you, you know, incorporate your faith
(29:41):
into into humor and without it being cynical and whatever,
And and he he held forth quite eloquently about how
you know, when you when you give in to despair,
it makes you more susceptible to evil. And this is
why we laugh so that we don't give into dispairitis.
(30:02):
And I'm not doing service to to what he said,
but it was it was eloquent and poignant and such
a window into his thinking.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Actually, I think you said it quite well. It's really
uh makes a lot of sense, is something, right?
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah, And so yeah, anyway, that's I was just thinking,
because the more I read on this, I'm like, man,
this this thinks, you know, I know, this whole thing,
it stinks to high heaven. And it's just it's just
it's just the wealthiest getting wealthier. And you know, again,
just to be clear, like Stephen Colbert will be fine.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Sure, of course, yeah, somewhere and hopefully still be able.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
To Like i mean, he could just retire right now,
and I'm sure he'd be he could sure, Yeah, but yeah,
I'm sure the truth of it is that that he
will find there will be other people ready racing to
hire him.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
And you know, I was reading about how John Stewart
is probably on Justice thin Ice now.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
You're right, well, yeah, because he's on Comedy Central.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Right, part of the same corporate hierarchy. And he he
had given a quote because he has he has a
YouTube show called The Weekly Show Okay, which is an
adjunct to the Daily Show, and it's just him interviewed.
It's actually a great shows. He has fascinating interviews. But
he addressed some of the speculation. This is before Colbert
got fired, and he's like, look, whatever happens. I mean,
I've been fired from shittier places than this, and all
(31:32):
these guys they're gonna land somewhere. So so to be clear,
it's you know, it's this is not like, you know,
the First Amendment has been wiped off the dry erase. Uh,
these people will land somewhere. But the precedent is not
what I'm thrilled with exactly. You know. But if I
were to guess, uh, Colbert's got ten more months and
(31:55):
he's he's not gonna pump.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
The brakes, I was wondering about that. Yeah, he's he's
on through next May. Yeah, so I'm curious how he
will use that time.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
You know, he'll go in a blaze of glory like
when Conan was leaving the Tonight Show, remember that.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Mm hm oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
But also in addition to that, I think that Seth Myers.
I think that that Jimmy Kimmel, maybe to some extent,
Jimmy Fallon or as Trump called him, the moron, hosting
the Tonight Show, and I was thinking, I was like
I was like, Jimmy Fallon was the guy who had
(32:31):
trump on and he tussled his hair and.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Made yeah quite famously right, and he kind.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Of made him look good. Yeah, So I mean this
guy anyway. My point is, all these guys they're gonna
they're gonna up their game in my opinion, right right
I I I will. I don't know Jimmy Kimmel, but
I will speak on his behalf. He will for sure
up his game, right he will. He will dare them
to fire him.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Oh yeah, yeah, he like lives for this.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
So man, you know I say this all the time.
Can we not live in interesting times? Can we? Can
we try that for a little while.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Well, you know, to possibly end on a bit more
of a positive note, living in interesting times? At least
one thing is for certain. What's one year from now?
I know I have my tickets secured to watch The
Odyssey in an IMAX theater.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
You got your ticket? No?
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I didn't. I was like, I don't know what I'm
gonna be doing, Like one month from now, How'm I
can't plan? What are we doing? Literally a year from now?
Speaker 2 (33:31):
I saw people talking about this on social media. They're like,
I got my tickets and they and they you know,
they shared a screen grab and it's like a full auditorium.
I'm like, what movie? And then I'm like the Odyssey.
What you know. I'm like, is it like a trailer
for the Odyssey? No? No, no, it's the Odyssey, like
you said, a year from now. And I'm like, what
what it's like spaceballs.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
They're like, we're still making it, like literally, they're still
making it.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
And then adjunc to that, oh, people are now scalping
Odyssey tickets and I'm like, we are truly trapped in
the dumbest of all possible timelines.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Tickets are getting scalped for a movie that is still
in production. That iss and also like two.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Hundred dollars people are selling them for.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
See there's something. When I heard that they were doing that,
I was like, oh, it just it feels like a
publicity thing, Like okay, whatever, that's kind of funny. But yeah,
when it comes to that then where it's like you
can't even it's not even safe to get a ticket
for the movie you want to see, just as an
average movie going person, like everything must become like a
(34:36):
Taylor Swift ticket and be like thousands of dollars for
you to just do the thing that you should be
able to do at your corner movie theater. Like that
feels like a bummer.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I agree, However, I'm not saying I respect the scalpers. However,
if you have a seat and somebody is dumb enough
pay you two hundred dollars for that seat, right, I
would say make that money.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Well, I guess, yeah, you don't know what people are
working with. Maybe they if they have the money, the
means to spend that much, and it means that much
to them all, all right.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Like if you think you will not be able to
watch the Odyssey when you want to unless you get
that two hundred dollars ticket, you know what, maybe maybe
you should not have that money.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
I agree with that, but I also do think it's
a bit of a bummer. I know this will be different,
it'll probably play longer. But when Interstellar came back to
theaters this year, yeah, and it was next to impossible
to get a ticket. It played at least for a week.
I don't know if it went longer, but it was.
I mean, nine AM screenings of Interstellar were sold out
at Imax theaters, and of course that if you're a fan,
(35:49):
you would like to see it in that format, because
when you're going to get that opportunity again. And of course,
well this is no one is known for Imax, but
this is the first movie he's doing where the entire
movie is being filmed with IMAX cameras, and of course
that's the version I want to see. But I just
it's kind of a bummer that I have to think,
already you're in advance. I'm gonna have a really hard
(36:11):
time doing that.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
That's you don't be funny is if if like the
camera pulls out and we see who's the scalper and
it's Christopher Nolan. Yeah, he's like bugs Bunny at the
end of that Daffy Duck cartoon, you know, like, ain't
I a Stinka? You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's like
checking his PayPal account, you know, as is Ben Mogoes
(36:33):
King Jing Jing.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
You're but you know it's fine, I mean, harping on
the negative parts of it. I am kind of amused
by it. Like when I saw the story, I thought
it was really funny. I've never seen anything like that before.
It is very twenty twenty five, and I mean, are
theaters even equipped to their Excel spreadsheets go that far
to like have like what if a theater doesn't even
(36:55):
exist in a year from now, Like they're selling seats
right in a you know, the theater that I go
to is being renovated right now, so you know, certain
certain rooms they're basically converting sort of older screening rooms
into seats now that recline, so they have less seats
in them, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Like, it's just who.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Knows, like a year from now what those rooms are
even gonna look like the seats that you're selling, And
I just find it kind of amusing.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Here's what I'm picturing. I'm picturing trying to explain this
to yourself in nineteen ninety five, and you're like Doc
Brown in Back to the Future, so here and we're
trying to get the tickets and it's a year out.
It's like, oh, in the future, movie theaters must have
become big arenas and you know, like claudiated spectacles perhaps,
(37:41):
you know, and you're like, oh, no, it's just.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
No, they're smaller, but the receipts reclined.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Just the whole idea, like the fact that you reserve seats,
you're able to get on an app a you're out,
Like every step of that process would would be just
absolute argo bargle to you in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
It would And there's waiters that bring to it directly
to you. Is that amazing? No, it's very annoying. They
give you the bill in the last ten minutes of
the movie when you're trying to see what happens.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Yeah, I'm not fan, by the way, one of those.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yeah, I'm with you on that. Super annoying.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yeah, although I will say in defense, I was just
at an AMC recently that did that that. You know,
I had the dining thing, but their policy was you
have to take care of all of it, you know,
a certain amount of time before the movie starts. So
I was like, all right, well that feels like we're evolving.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Take so take care of your bill before the movie starts.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
I don't know about the bill, but it was like
the food and the ordering and.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
The whole process, so they can't bring it to you
while the movie's going.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
That's that's what's I overheard. We didn't order anything, but
I overheard someone telling that to a person near me.
So I was like, well, that's that's better because it
used to be. You know, the other theaters I've been to,
it was just so obnoxious. And then you have to
they keep going down the aisles and dropping bills, and
they're looking for the persons.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
You know, they're like, okay, you actually, when you think
about it from a theater perspective, that actually kind of
makes sense. Is what you say is we will stop
delivering food to the seat five minutes before the movie starts. Yeah, right,
and or whatever like during commercials. Right, But it forces
people to have to come early and watch the commercials,
(39:26):
which is what theaters want. That's a great point as
opposed to people just rolling up right, you know, yeah, yep,
I don't know. I'm not telling you how to do
your job theaters. You know, it makes sense to me,
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