Ep. 320: F1

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome friends.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
It's podcast podcasting time show JACKI again by Yeah, they're
talking down the movie Moming Down Black.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
I welcome to movie film. It's episode three twenty Rough
You by mister Boyd Productions. I'm Zaki a sign. I'm
here with Brian Hall.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Hey, how's it going, Zachi? How are you?

Speaker 3 (00:25):
I'm hanging in there. I'm you know. I was about
to be like, you know, it's crazy that summer has
just started, and then I look at the calendar. I'm like,
oh wait, it's end of June. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Well someone told me that it was solstice, you know,
several days ago, and I was like, wait, isn't that
like the middle of the year. And then it starts
getting dark again, like I thought. I thought. I was
noticing that it was continuing to get lighter and lighter
every night, and I was getting excited about that. And
I guess I already have to say goodbye to that.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
It's time is a fleeting thing. It is, it isn't
It puts things in perspective. I was actually I was
actually thinking about how I was sort of reminiscing fondly
about the whole run of commentaries that we did during
during the pandemic. You know, we were were knocking them
out quite quite frequently. And you realize, oh wait, that's

(01:15):
that's half a decade ago. Yeah, that's that's one and
a quarter high school as ago.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Wow. When you put it that way, a whole high
school career. Wow, that is really strange. I mean, yeah,
it's everybody has said this, but yeah, time has been
so weird in the twenty twenties.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah. This past week is the fiftieth anniversary of Jaws.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, that's right. It's been fun seeing uh it pop
up everywhere all over my feed until I saw it
was on TV and all sorts of merch everywhere, even
at the theaters. I was at an AMC theater and
I saw that they were selling Jaws popcorn buckets and
cups and stuff. It's been kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
That's that's the stuff I like, that's the that's the
kind of nostalgia I can get in, get on board form.
So number one, I was like, hey, we just did
a commentary and I was like, oh wait, that was
five years ago for the forty fifth anniversary.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah wow, yeah right, number one.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
And then number two, there's that other realization, like right now,
we're at the trailing edge of the fiftieth anniversary of
movies that pre date us, and we're we're heading into
just a decade of feeling older and older every single
week as this movie celebrates its fiftieth anniversary, and this

(02:35):
movie and it's stuff that we remember.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah. For example, I mean, Back to the Future turns forty. Yeah,
this year, and I feel like you were just in
town with me when we saw was it the thirtieth
or twenty fifth or something like it.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Was twenty fifth, twenty tenth fifth, it was twenty ten.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
We just did that in my mind.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Bananas. Yeah, it's bananas. Yeah, because because I introduced Back
to the Future to my kids during that year, right,
So that's okay, you houms.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
It was three Wow, whoa Okay, and now he's a
high school graduate.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Now he's like almost starting college.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
I mean I have a picture, which I'm sure you've seen,
of him as a little kid holding a Dolorean toy.
Oh yeah, you know, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Wild wild. You know what's funny. I wasn't gonna mention this,
but because we're talking about time and getting older. This
is the first episode three, Episode three hundred and twenty
the first one I'm wearing reading glasses.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, wow, I've been very lucky, I realize. I mean,
I know many many people have had to wear glasses
a lot of their lives, but I've I've never had
I've never had to wear glasses. But now I'm finding
that thing where when I look at menus, I'm like, hmm,
like holding it out a little further, and it's looking
at my laptop, I'm like, wait, the words aren't supposed
to look quite like this, right, And so I finally
got a pair of reading glasses.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
You are officially in the Captain Kirk in Wrath of
Khan phase. Welcome take it.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
I'll take it.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
But in that spirit, what things have you seen lately
that have you looking at life in a new way?

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Actually quite a bit. It's funny. I didn't even think
about it that way, But most it's.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Kind of a whole journey based on the things you've seen.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
It feels like, actually, yes, yes, I'll you know. We
did our Congo commentary, which everyone should check out last week,
but that's given me some time to catch a bunch
of things in the theater. And I'll start with materialists
which is kind of an interesting movie in that it
comes from Selene's Song, who's a writer director who did

(04:38):
the movie Past Lives, which I really loved. It is
one of my favorite movies of last year. It's a
very thoughtful and kind of aching, almost like love story
or it's a story about romantic relationships from different eras
of our lives, and a really lovely reflection on that

(04:59):
and quite beautif from beginning to the end. I just
like really loved her approach and the execution on that story.
So I was very curious about this movie Materialists, because
the trailer kind of made it seem like a throwbacky
almost nineties rom com rom com.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, I think I think a lot of audiences went
in expecting something in that vein.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, well and write down it's worth noting. In the trailer,
I mean there's a narrator, you know, like Julie doesn't
ever life together, you know, kind of a thing.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Which, Wow, that really is a throwback.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Right, Like you notice it because you realize you haven't
heard a narrator's voice in so long. But anyway, so
I was curious about this strictly because of the filmmaker
Selene Song and despite the trailer looking like, oh, I
feel like I've kind of seen this before, I'm like, yeah,
but what does this look like from her? And it's

(05:49):
interesting because I walked out enjoying my time with it,
but talking with people, it seems like several people didn't
enjoy it as much as I did. And when I
say enjoy it, I mean, like I said, I enjoyed
my time with it. I didn't think it was profound necessarily,
you know, it has its flaws, but.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Uh so so, And not to cut you off, but
but definitely from the posters, yes, and the general vibe,
you sort of expect some wacky thing where Pedro Pascal
and Chris Evans are fighting over Dakota Johnson and you know, uh,
it's getting to various Jack Tripper esque situations to her,

(06:32):
I mean, yes, kind of kind of this means war
with Chris Pine and Tom Hardy fighting over Reese Witherspoon.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
See that's what's so interesting about it. So the plot
in a nutshell is it's Dakota Johnson plays a matchmaker
in New York and she's torn her She herself is
torn between an old love played by Chris Evans and
a new recruit for her service, Pedro Pascal. So Chris Evans,
like I said, an old love, he has no money

(06:59):
and and he you know, of course, between them they
have a lot of baggage. And then Pedro Pascal, on
the other hands, is seemingly perfect on paper. What's a
girl to do?

Speaker 3 (07:08):
So it's right, But if I had to choose, how
many times I'm stuck between Chris Evans and pend Dakota,
I get you, girl.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
But see that's the thing I mean, that's what I
kind of like about it, though, is you can easily
imagine the same story beats of this movie being from
a Kate Hudson movie from the early two thousands, right,
I mean literally, if you were to look at this
movie on paper, even right down to it.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Just now, Kate Hudson listening to our show just went, oh.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
No, well there's a place for those movies, you know,
how to lose a guy.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
And then just now, Kate Hudson.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
And I loved you and almost famous. Come on, I
feel like now I have to like appease Kate Hudson
in this moment, I'm feeling like a little like sweat
going down my forehead. I loved your family anyway. But
those movies have their rhythms, they have their beats, they

(08:05):
have their broad comedy. And what I liked about this
was using those same sort of beats Selene song kind
of lets the movie move at a different tempo, lets
everything breathe a little different, a little more, and it
feels a little more idiosyncratic. And I kind of enjoyed
seeing that type of story with this kind of execution.

(08:26):
And you know, the story itself is basically about how
modern dating, you know, through apps and everything, can kind
of reduce people to statistics. You know, where's where's the love? Zachy,
Where's the love?

Speaker 3 (08:38):
That's true?

Speaker 1 (08:39):
And you know, I mean again looking at what we
do have there on screen, it can despite the great filmmaking,
it can come across a little pat right, and I'm
not sure that everything that happens in the movie is
entirely earned. But like I said, I did enjoy this
different approach from a person with a different voice, and

(09:00):
I enjoyed my time with it. So I think if
people are looking for a movie like a story about love,
I thought it was an engaging enough time made by
an interesting filmmaker. So I enjoyed materialists.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
There you go. Well, I should say I'm gonna saw it.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Oh what do you think?

Speaker 3 (09:17):
I think she enjoyed it. I don't know, because she
got backwardly late and she started telling me about it,
and I did fall asleep, but it's because it was late,
and then I forgot to follow up, which is on me.
That's a me problem.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Well, that sounds like a real Chris Evans move, So
I'm a little concerned you might want to I.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Was about to say, I'm no Pedro Pascal, as she
makes clear to me at all moments of life.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
On the other hand, the movie may ask you or
make you ask, but do you want to be at
Pedro Pascal? Could you be a Chris Evans if you
worked a little harder?

Speaker 3 (09:53):
All things worth pondering?

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yeah, Well, speaking of pondering and pondering life, I saw
this movie called The Life of Chuck, which this was
a really interesting in that I don't remember trailers for
this movie. It's based on a Stephen King short story.
I mean I knew nothing about it until maybe a

(10:16):
week before it came out. It comes from Mike Flanagan.
It did Midnight Mass and Gerald's Game adapted some other
Stephen King things, and I gotta say so, this is
a very mysterious movie.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Mike Flanagan is like a Stephen King Vett at this point, right.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Exactly exactly, and you know, he's he's leaned flan again
into sort of horror with this. You know, he did
Doctor Sleep, which I think we both liked. Actually, yes,
oh yeah, yeah, but this is I don't know what
the word is not so you know, Stephen King. I mean,
he's told so many freaking stories and some of them

(10:53):
are a little, you know, obviously scary horror, but some
of them are kind of life affirming, you know, like
or something like that. Carrie, I'm just firestarter for me. Yeah, yeah,
but but yeah, this is one of his This movie
feels like a celebration of life. And it's difficult to

(11:16):
talk about because the reason I really enjoyed this movie
was because I went into it knowing absolutely nothing about it,
and it was special experiencing something a story where I
had no idea, where it.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Was going.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Unfold just in front of me and getting wrapped up
in it. And when it was all said and done,
it made me think about my life and it just
how often does that happen. You know, it's very, very special,
and I do also want to acknowledge I've talked to
some other people and it didn't lands as much for them,
and I totally understand that this is a real, I think,

(11:57):
an interesting discussion movie to watch and then talk with
someone afterwards. But what I will say about it is
it starts where the world is ending, right, California has
fallen into the ocean. All this natural disasters are going on, sinkholes.
The world is literally falling apart, and people don't know
what to make of it. But almost ironically, comically, these

(12:20):
people keep seeing these billboards and signs that show a
guy named Chuck, just an ordinary looking dude sitting at
an office desk, and it's congratulating him, and everyone's just like,
what is that all about? Right? And so the movie
is structured in an interesting way where it calls out

(12:41):
three acts, but act one is called act three. So
we're seeing the story in reverse, and we're slowly revealing
things about characters, about their lives, and that's what it is.
It's really ultimately about the richness of life and how
the people and experiences that we encounter along the way

(13:02):
are what make life special, and so you have these moments.
I think this is what's prominently featured on the poster
and the trailer. But there's a scene where Tom Hillston,
who plays Chuck, is dancing with this woman as a
street performers playing the drums, and it's one of those
things where if you see the trailer, it could almost
feel a little twee dancing to music cilverrate life, you know.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
But I.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Was so beaming watching this moment happen. I thought it
was so well done and so sincere. And then as
the story continues going, it almost turns into sort of
a wonder yearsy feeling story where there's little vignettes about
things that happened along the way. And there was one
moment that happens at a school dance where I actually

(13:49):
cried tears of joy get out of here. Yeah, like
and I couldn't help it, Like I didn't even feel
it coming on. Just tears started coming down my cheeks
because it was so sweet and my body just reacted
to it. And it's funny because I was feeling a
little embarrassed about it. And then I went with two
friends when the movie ended, I looked to my right,
he had tears and I looked to my left and
she had tears and we all started laughing. So yeah,

(14:13):
it's a very life affirming make you reflect on just
all the interesting things that come your way that make
your life what it is. And I thought it was
really special, so I would I would definitely recommend the
Life of Chuck Sadly. I imagine it'll be streaming soon.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah. The shelf life for these type of movies is shrinking.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah yeah, yeah. But also speaking of life affirming, I
saw another John Wick film. Ah, yes, of course, life
taking I suppose no. I saw Ballerina, which is from
the World of John Wick, directed by Lynn Wiseman, not

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by Stahelski, who does the other John Wicks.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Who is doing, by the way, the Highlander reboot.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, that should be very cool.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
I think Henry cavill playing playing Connor McLeod.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
I'm very interested to see something in a different universe
from him. Still.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, most most exciting is that they just announced that
Russell Crowe has joined the cast.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
I imagine in the Sean Connery roole probably.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
And so I'm hoping we get another crazy Russell Crowe accent.
Oh yeah, yeah, So that I can complete my Russell
Crowe accent bingo card exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
But no. So Ballerina is a spin off of John Wick.
So I think it was in three we see Wick
talking to this woman in an auditorium and she's running
what looks like a ballerina academy, but it's really you know,
for female assassins, right, and so this one is about
one of those female assassins, played by Anna Dharmas. And

(15:58):
you know, I was kind of on the fence about this.
If I caught it cool, if I didn't, fine, And
one night I didn't have anything to watch. I have
the Regal Unlimited. It's basically like watching movies for free,
and I thought, well, I could watch something I half
want to see on TV, or I could go see
something new and cool on the link screen. So kind
of on a whim, I saw Ballerina and oh man.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
I'm going to stop you there, Brian. Yes, and I'll
tell you why, folks, because we actually discussed the Ballerina
on a special Patreon bonus episode of the show, and
this one time, I'm going to say, if you want
to hear what Brian thought about that movie, head over
to our Patreon and check out that bonus show. I
think you'll enjoy what he had to say.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
I will say, I'm going to say two words, make
of them what you will No, three words, flamethrower fight.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
I am teased, Yes, I am suitably intrigued.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yes, Yes, that was fun. That was fun. Actually, we
had kind of like a little bonus episode that kind
of happened on accident, and we've been thinking of ways
to generate more content for our Patreon feed and gearing
up for our commentary. We just started shooting the Breeze
talking about things we'd seen talking about life, and since
we had hit record in about twenty minutes had passed,

(17:19):
we thought, hey, this was like a good bonus episode.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
So head on over there and give that a listen.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Patreon dot com slash Movie Film Podcast.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Lastly, going back to the sort of life contemplation stories.
Just last night I saw twenty eight years later.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Oh nice, So Danny arriving not twenty eight years after
twenty eight days?

Speaker 1 (17:43):
No, not quite right. So you had twenty eight days later,
twenty eight weeks later, and then now twenty eight years later.
And this is a return with Danny Boyle because he
didn't do the second one.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
And so the big question that I've had for a
while is how hung are these zombies?

Speaker 1 (18:00):
That was the thing, right, I kept seeing all these articles,
even on like Vulture. You know, it was just sort
of like, let's talk about the hung zombie and.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Twenty just go in trying to peep that zombie. Dong.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Oh, you don't have to try zaching. It's like you're
basically introduced. It's like you're basically shaking hands when you
watch this movie.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
The credits are projected on.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yeah, like an old James Bond movie. Yeah. Screenplay by
Alex Garland reading it wrapped around anyway, So twenty eight
years later, I I'll be very general because I think

(18:48):
you're you're planning to see this, right.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
I am playing. I had hoped to see it this week,
so so I don't know if people can tell, I'm
a little under the weather. And and my plan had
been to catch it before this show so that we
could talk about it. And I was feeling really crappy,
and I'm like, do I want to watch just like
Gore Palooza when I'm already feeling not great, And so
I decided to push it off until a little bit later,

(19:10):
So that was my I don't know if that was
the right choice, but that was where I landed.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
No, I think you did make the right choice actually,
if that was your feeling, Because this is what I'll say.
I think this movie's really good. And I generally tend
to like zombie stuff, I guess, but really it kind
of depends on the characters, frankly, because it's just important
that you care about the people. There's just so much
of this stuff. I mean, of course, years and years

(19:36):
and years of The Walking Dead and Last of Us
most recently, and just all sorts of films in between,
even the twenty eight fill in the blank later you
know movies. So it's like zombie action isn't new. It's like,
what is happening amidst the zombie action? And will I
care about it? And I should say, to your point,

(19:56):
this movie is very graphic, very grizzly, very bleak. I
mean you literally see a guy, you know, a zombie
takes a guy's head and pulls him out, spine and
all out of the body, like not cut away, not abstraction,
like you literally see it. And I I was telling
you earlier, you know, It made me think about how

(20:18):
RoboCop was rated X and I was like, how far
we've come. So, I mean, I think people should know
that it's it's it's gross. It's a gross movie. And
actually there were people that walked out of my screening.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Really yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
But having said that, I did like the story of this.
It's it's really the trailers don't highlight this, but it's
really a mother son story, okay, And that really got
to me. It's it's I don't really feel like it's
a spoiler to say, but it's this this boy, and
he's becoming a man, he's got a what's in the

(20:54):
trailers is the father taking him on an expedition where
he's going to hunt zombies for the first time and
just because he's going to have to learn to do
that to live in this world. And what you learn
is that his mother is ill and seemingly by everyone
else around them, condemned to die. But he the boy,
you know, his mother's his world and he's not going

(21:14):
to have that, so he's willing to venture out to
try to find a doctor to see what they can do.
And I found it all very moving, honestly, and it
ray finds is in it. He's in the trailers, and
he plays a character that's really really interesting. On the
face of it, you think one thing, but then you're

(21:35):
forced to shift your perspective a little bit and really
reflect on life and sort of I mean kind of
a similar theme to Chuck, our Life of Chuck in
a way where it's just like, you know, we are
a collection of our experiences and the people we meet
along the way, and that character sort of brings that
to this film.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
So this is like Life of Chuck, but with more zombies.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yes, yes, yeah, wait, and way more zombie kills. Yeah.
It's you know, it's it's got its uh quirks, it's
it's a little scrappy, it's a little vignette vignette. But
I did I did feel things along the way, But
at the end of the day, I did also walk
out with my stomach turned a little bit. So it's

(22:15):
it's kind of all the above for me personally. So
I don't know that I would just go into a
cold if you just wanted to catch a movie, I mean,
I think if you want to go see an intense
zombie movie that has kind of a heartfelt story at
its Core. Then yeah, I think I think it's you've
done pretty well.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
You've seen the previous ones, right, Yes, I've.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Seen the other two, but not since they came out,
you know, So that's I was.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Going to ask you, do you feel like that's essential viewing?

Speaker 1 (22:43):
You know, No, you could watch this on its own,
because it's basically I mean, it is so far removed
in years, and if memory serves each one is basically
focusing on a different set of characters.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Yeah, it's a bit of an anthology exactly.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Excuse me. And this movie does touch a little bit
on well, where are we at twenty eight years into
this kind of thing? Is everyone in the world still
experiencing this? Is it just on this island? Is it
just you know, like what?

Speaker 2 (23:17):
So?

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yeah, I mean it's got a lot of interesting ideas.
Like I said, the heart of it did touch me,
but I also was like, you know, like you kind
of walk out still with a slightly unpleasant feeling too.
So it's gotcha. That was my experience. But I do
think people who are excited about this thing will probably
enjoy it. Okay, Yeah, and I'll tease this it has

(23:38):
an ending that is so out of left field. Interesting
that I really really wish we could discuss it.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Okay, but there's there's a sequel that's coming out in
January of twenty twenty six. It's already shot, and I
think it's setting.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Up that interesting. Okay.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
So that's that's kind of where I'm at. How about yourself?

Speaker 3 (24:00):
So a couple things I've seen recently. Number One, I
revisited Total Recall.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Oh okay, the Colin Farrell classic.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Which was our second episode. If you recall, I talked
about that episode. Really that episode I talked about the
Total Recall remake.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yeah, oh wow.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah. So the last time I saw Total Recall the
original one. I'm talking about the original weather. Last time
I saw it was probably, you know then when that
movie came out, so twenty oh really okay, you know,
so it has been a while, but I was kind
of waiting for my older kids to get a little older,
and you know, we were home and it's like, hey,
it's time, let's do this. And man, what a what

(24:40):
a trip to watch this movie thirty five years after
it came out, because it is so it is so
much of its time, Like I don't know, like my
kids are different because they've sort of been slowly introduced to,
you know, the eighties nineties action genre, right, so they
have a framework, but if you're showing to somebody completely cold,

(25:04):
I have no idea how they would even how they
would even plug into it.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Interesting.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
You know, it is so like it is, It is
so trippy and it's so out there, and you realize,
like this was a major blockbuster during the summer of ninety, right,
and you're just like, they wouldn't they wouldn't make something
like this, like like the Proof in the Pudding is
the remake, which is the exact same movie minus all

(25:30):
the uniqueness that Paul Verhoven brought to it. Interesting, do
you have Len Wiseman?

Speaker 1 (25:36):
I was just gonna say, am I correct in thinking, yeah,
that's a Len Wiseman movie?

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yeah? You know so, I I mean, gosh, when's the
last time you watched the original? Total recall?

Speaker 1 (25:47):
You know, this is funny because when I was young,
I didn't see a lot of R rated movies when
I was really little, and so I kind of missed
this one. So it was probably in my late twenties,
okay or something that I or maybe even early thirties
I saw it for the very first time all the
way through.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Wow. Okay.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah, well, and I'll just say I did find it
a lot weirder than I expected, yeah, and a lot
more gruesome. Like it's very very violent and in a
way like you're saying, you know, if you're sort of

(26:25):
used to eighties violence, yeah, it's very different these days.
Like there's a lot of squibs. I mean, just you know,
fountains of blood just exploding.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
It is, yeah, just geysers. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
So that's it's very much a time capsule of not
only nineties action cinema, but what people thought the future
would be. Like you know, oh sure, but the other thought,
like you watched the movie and you're like, this is
why Arnold Schwarzenegger was a star at his because just

(27:00):
whatever mojo he had, he was able to just pull
us in, right, And and I think I think as
a test case, I think it's very interesting, right because
if you take Arnold Schwarzenegger and compare him to Colin Farrell,
I would say, and maybe you would agree that Colin
Ferrell is the better actor, sure, right, and yet Schwarzenegger

(27:23):
is the only guy who could who could have done
total recall the way he did it right, right, So
like in a one to one, Farrell comes out behind
because just he doesn't have what Arnold had. Yeah sure,
you know, does that I don't know, does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah? Absolutely? Yeah, you know, it's just that one of
a kind sort of personality that everybody agrees they wanted
to watch that guy. And whether it's he's he's a
cop playing a kindergarten teacher that's hilarious, or if he's
like a robot with like a muted personality but he's
taking care of a boy, you know, who's gonna save humanity. Like,
no matter what he does, he's interesting.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
That's right. And it's it's somewhat appropriate that I watched
this movie, uh, revisited it just after watching fu Bar,
you know, the Netflix Short Speak show to realize, like,
I mean, how far we are removed from his peak?

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Yeah, which is a strange thing. Yeah it is.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
And I think I said like that that show is
not great, but I enjoy him in it.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yeah, oh absolutely. But I mean to really dig into
the weirdness you're talking about, I mean there's like three
breasted women in total recall, and there's like an alien
that lives on a guy's stomach or in it or
something like that. You know, like it's it's very it's
very very strange, almost horror like, you know, like body

(28:46):
horror type of film. So I'm kind of curious, Yeah,
how did your kids enjoy it? I mean, or did
they enjoy it?

Speaker 3 (28:53):
I think they did. I watched it with the older two,
and so, like I said, I mean, at this point,
they've seen enough action pictures from that genre that era
specifically that they're they have a general sense of what
to expect. And you know, I said, oh, this is
Paul Verhove and needed robo cops, so they have a
they're able to make that connection. You know. I think

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they enjoyed it. I mean, I don't think it's gonna
stay with them where they're like, oh, I got to
rewatch it. But I don't think they regret having watched it,
you know, totally. But it is It's just it's different,
right because like because we're in right now, we're in
kind of the John Wick era of action movies, right,
and and that's that that phase was gonna last for

(29:34):
a little while and then we'll move into the next thing,
and you know, and and you know, you you realize
like all of these things that we cycle in and
out of them, you know, right right?

Speaker 1 (29:45):
You know.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Uh. Also, actually I watched a new MCU show that's
on Disney Plus right now. It's called Ironheart.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
I heard of this. I think I might heard of
it because of you, because you wrote about it.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Yeah. Yeah, so this is this is spinning out of
Black Panther Wakanda Forever, which you know three years ago
that movie came out, which is like, just that's like
eighteen years in Marvel time, right, it really feels like
it that moves exactly.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
So this character was introduced there and the series was
meant to give her a showcase. So's it's executive produced
by Ryan Coogler, and it's about about the character Ruy Williams,
who is a tech genius who builds an iron suit
a lah Tony Stark and you know her escapades that
she gets into. And you know, I didn't know what

(30:37):
to expect when I went in, but I will say,
you know, it's a sixth episode show and overall I
enjoyed it. You know, it's not going to change anybody's life,
but I think what it does in terms of painting
an authentic portrait of not only this girl, the main character,
but also the culture. You know, it's it's set in Chicago,

(30:59):
which obviously I appreciate it and sort of just you know,
what feels like an authentic depiction of the black community
in Chicago I plugged into and I really, I really
appreciated that what felt real and lived in. And I
was like, you know, this is not a move, this
is this is not a project that wouldn't necessarily have

(31:22):
worked as a movie or even been made into a movie,
because you just need something with broader appeal. And so
I was like, well, if you're going to do streaming shows,
this is what you do. Do something a little niche,
that's a little off kilter, that plays into the universe,
but lets you, you know, tell stories that otherwise wouldn't
get told. You know, totally totally me personally. A few
years ago, you know, I really liked Miss Marvel. Yeah,

(31:45):
right right, And part of the reason being it was
depicting a South Asian Muslim family and that's that's my life.
I saw my life on screen as part of the
Marvel universe, and this gave me those same type of vibes,
but picking a different experience.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
You know.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
That's great.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
So that's out right now that Yeah, the first three
episodes are out as we record this. The next three
will be out in the in the coming week. In
addition to Dominice Thorne, who plays by Williams, you got
Alden aren Reich in a in a key supporting role
that ties in. That's like a deep, deep cut to
MCU history, which I liked. Anthony Ramos, who I've been

(32:28):
enjoying him a lot and a bunch of stuff lately.
He was in Twisters last year. Yeah, it's right, and
a couple other people the Sasha Baron Cohen pops up
in there. So a few a few people who you
I expect you to recognize. But Sasha Baron Cohen isn't
that random?

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Well that took my brain a second to catch up
with that, Like yeah, yeah, interesting.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Yeah, So again it's it's not something that demands to
be seen.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
And I think that's almost better, like just the I
think I think the MCU is some of the interconnectivity
is coming back to bited in the ass a little bit.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Right, takes the pressure off a little bit.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Takes the pressure office. Just it's just doing this thing,
and I you know, I wouldn't mind seeing seeing her
story continue. Nice good, Yeah, yeah, so that is what
I saw. But hey, we have a whole bunch of
listener letters here, Brian.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
I.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Believe you have for me eighteen thousands all addressed. You've
got me, all right. So uh, here's a note we
got from David Gutierrez, who prefaces his note by saying, guys,
strap in, this is a long one.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
So I'm ready buckle up.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
I know. Bottle Rocket had an early debut screening slash
Q and A. Back when I was a student at
u T Austin, we had Texas Film Ties. Yeah see
I see Brian leaning forward and yeah. For background, Texas
Austin particularly was being poised as the third Coast of entertainment.
There were four of us in the theater, myself, my
best friend, Brad Chip Pope, an Austin Stories actor and

(34:06):
hell of a screenwriter, and a fourth guy who comes
into play later.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Wow. Four people okay.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Wow, Wes Anderson and Owen and Luke Wilson were nice
enough to entertain an audience of four. Following the movie Wow,
the panel coordinator asked about how the movie was funded.
Anderson was candid and honest. He'd made a short version
of Bottle Rocket that made the festival rounds and attracted
some solid attention. Also, his aunt happened to be Polly Platt,

(34:32):
a big wig at Gracie Films, which is James L.
Brooks's company, and response fourth guy and attendance let out
a big oh fuck.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
You with four people in the room, damn.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
And that's my Bubble Rocket story.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
You know.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
I love hearing stories like this, not just that are
related to things I enjoy, but also their inspiration. Where
you're working on something and maybe it's not going the
way you wanted to, but you don't know what five
years from now look like, right Wes Anderson, Owen Wilson,
Luke Wilson. In that moment in a theater, they worked
really hard on a thing, they made the thing, and

(35:15):
there's four people in there and one of them just
cursed them out, you know what I mean. And they
have no idea that they're going to be nominated for
Oscars later, you know, the world famous, beloved by many.
They just didn't know. I think that's where I love
stories like that, when you get when you know the ending,
but you get to go back and look at the beginning,

(35:36):
and those people kept persisting and they succeeded.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
You think Wes Anderson wakes up in the middle of
the night because he's haunted by the O F you guy.
We just shoots out of bed in a cold sweat,
and his partner's like, what's wrong, and he's like, I
had to dream again.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Well, actually I was picturing him being like snapping awake,
but it was in like a shoe box looking room,
you know, with like perfectly hung pictures, and he like
snaps his bed sheets and they are like window blinds you.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Like sit Yeah, yeah, I like your version better, and.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
A twinkly little Mark Mothers Boss score plays I had
that dream again, but he says it's very flat, and
then he walks in in the camera like trucks with
him as he goes into another room in the Diorama
house he lives in. I'm saying this is a fan
by the way, I just.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
Want to say, I mean, you see all these Wes
Anderson parody trailers that people make online, and I feel
like you've missed your calling.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
David goes on. He says regarding the Papa Spielberg slash
Storybook Anderson discussion, and this was in our last in
episode nineteen eighteen. Yeah, my question to you is this,
when did Tim Burton become cliche black and white stripe elfman,
la la la Burton in your opinion? To throw that
one to you, Brian, I.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Like the la la la. Let me think of the
early Yeah, la la la la la la la. I
remember the first movie that didn't quite work for me
was Mars Attacks.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
No.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Sure, yeah, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Saying that's it though, because that was he was being
very true to himself, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
But I would say what David alludes to that began
with like Edward Scissorhands or something. I would say, right like,
I mean, you know, I would I mean, I like
Edward Scissorhands. But that's what.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Oh oh well, I guess when I saw the word cliche,
I was thinking, yeah, he had done his thing and
now he's just kind of doing the thing again. I
would say, Edward Scissorhands to.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Me is that's like the purest version of that exactly exact.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
That was what purest Burton really. But because I mean
ninety nine, I want to say, I think that was
Sleepy Hollow, which still felt like he was pushing you.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Know what I would go. I would go like ten
years removed from from Edward Scissor Hands, and it would
be Dark Shadows.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Oh certainly, I mean well, I mean, were the Allison Wonderland.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
That yeah, Alice, Okay, so dark Shadows is like twenty twelve. Yeah,
he had started going down that road well before that, right.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
And by the way, I if I don't remember exactly
what I said at the time, I don't remember being
super hard on Alice in Wonderland, like I did think
it was had interesting ideas, it was kind of interesting
to look at, even though the whole thing didn't really
land for me. But then he started like doing applying
his thing to for other people, right, for Disney stories

(38:46):
or this or that or whatever. And that's when it
started to feel more like he had to be a
little bit aware, aware of what he was doing, so
he could apply his thing to a thing that isn't his, right, right,
But yeah, even like Sleepy Hollow, which isn't one of
my favorites. But I do remember it feeling like he
had new moves in that and it was still kind of,

(39:09):
you know, true to himself.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
The most non Burton movie that he made that I
can think of in that era as Planet of the Apes.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Definitely. That might have been one of the first times
where I remember thinking, oh, I'm curious to see what
a Burton esthetic looks like with that story.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
Right, and it was neither fish nor foul. Yeah you will,
it was neither ape nor man.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Right right, right right. I'm actually I'm trying, I really
want to actually find the moment. I'm on his IMDb.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Now there's a Sweeney Todd that was somewhere like maybe,
oh yeah, that was like.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Two thousand and eight or seven or something.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
I want to say, Oh, Trillie in the Chocolate Factory,
there's a good example that, you know what, I think
that's it. That might be the demarcation point right there.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
So I was gonna say, because big Fish comes right
before that two thousand, which was great. I like big Fish. Yeah,
and that feels like a real swing from him, like
he wasn't trying to do the Burton thing. He was
just doing another side of himself this or something. But yeah,
you're totally right, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory felt like, ah.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
So there you go, twenty years ago. David, there's the answer.
It's the only correct answer.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yeah, but but I also really like your answer those
z act you have Dark Shadows.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
I remember when Dark Shadows came out and I saw
somebody on online said, I see that Tim Burton and
Johnny Depp have made their movie again.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Yes, very well, put exactly.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
That pretty much sums it up.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Yeah. I think we might have even in talking about
that if we did. That's the one where you thought, Okay,
we'll break out the white face paint and do the spiral. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Although again, you know, when his when his heart is
in it. See this is I feel bad like dissecting
a man's I know, I agree, because I'm like, I
have to believe he found something to believe in everything
he did, you know, but I do. I mean, there
are there are projects of his that feel more emotionally

(41:18):
truthful than others to me, you know, And I think
for me, the Beetlejuice sequel did that, and you know I.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Think so too. Yeah, I know we're pretty high on
that one. It just felt like something he actually wanted
to do and put himself into it, and you know,
whether or not anyone thought it was worth a second outing.
It seems like most people did, but it felt like
something he wanted to do.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
That's right. Yeah, And I mean his his output over
the last say fifteen years has been fairly, fairly light.
You know, he hasn't directed a ton of movies. Right,
So you say, Okay, well, Dumbo, I wasn't crazy about
Miss Peregreene. As I recall, you enjoyed that.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
I did enjoy that. That was kind of a surprise, right.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Big eyes. I remember liking that.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Me too, which is again, it feels like sort of
big fish in that. Yeah, it doesn't feel like a
typical type of story for him. Yeah, you know, kind
of a marital drama in a weird way, but like
very watchable. Actually, it was on a cable recently and
I watched the last twenty thirty minutes of it. I

(42:26):
had completely forgotten about it, like just that it even existed.
But it's a very watchable movie.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Well, there we go. Hope that answers your question, David, Yeah, yeah,
great question. Here's a note we got from Adamo, who says,
a while back, I suggested a commentary track for The Urbs,
which has been weirdly not available on streaming in any
consistent basis. Maybe it's because of the upcoming Peacock series
of Keiki Palmer. But guess what just popped up on
Voodoo And I should say once I got this note,

(42:55):
I went right over to Voodoo and I bought the Urbs.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Oh did you really?

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Yeah, because I've been wanting to rewatch that says this
movie is an annual tradition in our house thanks to
physical media, often paired with the great outdoors, which would
be another great commentary for a summer vacation double feature.
Speaking of the upcoming reboot slash continuation, my wife and
son were in LA for spring break, visiting the middle
spawn who's going to college there, and did the Universal
Studios tour, and they were filming the new version on

(43:22):
Colonial Street where the movie was filmed. As a super
fan of the film, I gotta admit I was jealous.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yeah, yeah, that is a fun part of the Universal
Studios tour, getting to see those streets and recognizing so
many homes.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Yes, and yeah I know what that's from, So the Burbs.
You know, we have talked about this. First of all,
I'm like, yes, I would absolutely love to do The
Burbs commentary Teck one of these days. I'm a big
Joe Dante fan, definitely, and I think we've said Sean
is like a super fan.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
I was gonna say that movie makes me think of Sean.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
Yeah, so like if we do what we got to
rope him.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
In, definitely, definitely that'd be a blast.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
And great outdoors. I mean, shit, I haven't I haven't
even thought of that since it came out that movie.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, by the way, I gotta say, speaking
of the Burbs, who's got two thumbs and tried to
pitch The Burbs as a TV show with his best
friend Sean at one point. Oh really, yeah, we did,
and people nobody knew what it was.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Get out of here.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yeah. We're like, I don't we just we think this
could be interesting, and people are like, well, okay, yeah,
we'll look that up, you know, kind of a thing.
And so when I heard that it was getting made,
I was like, I knew that was a good idea. Actually,
I gotta give credit to Sean. I mean that was
like his of his past project.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
Man, that sucks. Yeah all right, well I hope the
show is good anyway.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
No, same of course, but no, Great Outdoors. That's that's
one that I always think of where I had Funny
Funny edited for television like alternatives for swears, because it
would always be on WGN Channel nine.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
And there's like some scene I don't remember why, but
they just keep saying like, blow it out your ass,
and they say it over and over to each other
there and so on TV they changed it to blow
it out your kazooka. They're like, oh, blow it out
your kazoo, like you blow it out your kazoo. You
blowed it. That is really funny.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
That's hilarious. That's the one with John Candy and dan Aykwright. Yes,
because around then was it was the Chevy Chase movie called.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Funny Funny Farm.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Yeah, yeah, And I always get those confused.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Was Great Outdoors John Hughes that I don't know, uh,
like I said, Ben, Yes, it was okay yep. Directed
by Howard Deutsch, who directed some of Hughes's movies.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Yeah, he did Pretty or uh pretty yeah one of
those one of them?

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Right, yeah? Yeah, yeah, maybe Pretty in Pink.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
And now he's married to Lea Thompson. Yes, that's right,
Zoey Deutsche yep. Yeah, yeah. Uh.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Here's a comment we got from YouTube. Uh and this
is from Luke's mail twenty four and this is in
reference to our commentary track going back a bit, Brian.
This is for the commentary that we did for the
Mask of Zoro.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Oh okay, Yeah, there's great.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Commentary as always, and thanks for the listening, pleasure and
saving my sanity whilst I work. That's what we're here
to do. Loved this movie when it came out, and
one of the things I thought at the time, which
I still think now, is how effortlessly it felt that
Martin Campbell, the director, could change tone from tragedy to
comedy and do it seamlessly. That seems to be a

(46:31):
real talent that other directors struggle with. I recently bought
it on physical media. Yes, I still buy blu rays. Hey,
so do I. Some of us still do. Getting harder
to do these days, but we still do. And my
seven year old son was mesmerized and asked if it
was a recent film, so it still has staying power.
Just a note on the sword action. The choreography was

(46:52):
done by Bob Anderson, who's one of the most famous
swordsmen in Hollywood history, working on things like Lord of
the Rings, Highlander, Princess Brian, Barry Lyndon, and most famous
The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. He
was actually in the Vader suit for the lightsaber fights
in those two films. His credits go all the way
back to stunts for From Russia with Love.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Wow, that's crazy, Bob Anderson.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
Yeah. Well, and I mean that's one thing you can
say about watching The Mask of Zoro is that those
those sword fights are so seamless and so like tactile.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
You know.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Yeah, that was literally the word I was thinking, yep,
in the skill on display, but also the environments that
they're taking place in. It just makes it so thrilling.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
That's right. Yeah, Bob Anderson passed away in twenty twelve,
I believe, so thank you for that. You know. That's
kind of the fun thing is, thanks to having a
lot of these episodes posted up on YouTube, people find
them at random times. You know. Yeah. I love that,
and so we get some fun, fun comments by virtue
of that. Here is a comment that I got from

(48:00):
Visions of Hope on Blue Sky, who says, I always
love it when a new movie film commentary drops into
my feed, even if it's for a film I haven't
seen and may never see, like just off the top
of my head, nineteen ninety five's Congo.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
I will take that as a compliment. Yeah, and as
as her kermer Homolka might say, thank you very much
for this compliment.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
There you go check out the commentary.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Hey, we got some headlines extra scoop. So here's some
news right off the top which is breaking as we
record this. Lelo and Stitch two is in development at
Disney Live action.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Makes complete sense. I mean the first one is climbing
toward a billion dollars.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
Right, Yeah, it's it's currently at nine million worldwide, So
it's just a hopsk been to jump away from a billion,
and this goes to something greater, and it's something that
we talk about a lot. Bottom line, if you build it,
they will come right like that. You can't you can't
force feed a template into any kind of thing and

(49:21):
expect people to just show up. Right. So Disney has
taken a lot of guff, you might say, you know,
for their live action remakes of their animated films. People
like why did snow White Flop was it because it
was woke, you know, and and you know, ultimately, no,
it's because people don't care about snow White like that,
right right, Like there's this whole separate internet side show

(49:45):
about like how there's no Prince Charming and things like that,
and it's like, look, bottom line, we've gotten a gajillion
versions of the snow White story just in the last
ten years.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
And maybe that movie, also with the Seven Dwarfs, just
doesn't lend itself well to live action. Maybe that's okay.
You know, I think Leeland and Stitch, even before both
you know, we had seen it, I remember both of
us agreeing that that felt like a good idea. That's
a movie that you could totally execute and build upon
in live action and make something, you know, entertaining that

(50:16):
doesn't take away from the original animated version of it.
So this one felt like a no brainer to me.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Yeah, the fact that people have shown up, I mean,
I have to be honest, I was not crazy about it.
I'd just thought it was whatever. But I'm also not
the audience for it, right, you know, That's really what
it comes down to.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Yeah. I don't know if I mentioned it, but I
did end up seeing it, and I enjoyed it, Like
I mean, I think I don't think it built itself
out as best it could. So, like, if you're going
to remake a film, it'd be interesting to see, especially
in live action, I think you can you know, expand
on emotions and you know, yeah action and comedy and whatever.

(50:57):
And I'm not sure they went as far as they
could have with that, yeah, adding even more nuance in
tone with live action characters. But at the same time,
when it was over, I had a big smile on
my face and I laughed several times, and I was like, hey,
there you go. You did it well.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Ultimately, I mean, that's really all you need from a
movie like this.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Right, Yeah. And it's also interesting because I mean it
was one of those movies that almost went to Disney
plus that's right, right, and and look it's it's almost
at a billion dollars, So clearly this is, you know,
something people wanted to see. This is a character that's
been beloved ever since the original, right, So I think, yeah,

(51:33):
doing anything in this world is going to be profitable
and make people happy.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
So well, this is interesting because you talk about how
Leland Stitch was going to be a Disney Plus Original
before cooler heads prevailed, and obviously think of all the
money they would have looked on the table, right. I
think when we survey the long term impact of streaming
on on cinema, I think Disney Plus is a serial

(52:00):
offender because because I think as a contrast with how
Leelo and Stitch has done, we have the latest Pixar movie, Ilo,
which has the distinction of the lowest Pixar movie opening
weekend ever. Yeah, like lower than Toy Story thirty years ago.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Right, Now, First of all, have you seen Ilio?

Speaker 1 (52:23):
No? But I intend to m yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
When it comes to Disney.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Plus, No, No, If I can, I would like to
see it. Well, you know me, we're the same way.
I mean, if I can see something, I would first
like to see it, prefer to see it on a
big screen.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
So I can't even speak to the film because I
haven't seen it. But I mean the review seem to
be okay, the audience score seemed to be okay, but
people just decided they wouldn't go right. And this is
this is the point I'm making. I think that if
you if you take into account how Disney Plus dropped

(53:00):
onward and turning Red and Luca onto Disney Plus, either
either bypassing theatrical entirely or just short circuiting theatrical that
they might as well have have taken a glock and
just double tap pixel right in the head. Yeah, I mean,
I mean, really, like, like other than inside Out too

(53:23):
mm hm, they just haven't been able to break.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Through, which is wild. I mean, but that was a
known property. People know those characters.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
But even like light Year, right, which was ostensibly leaning
into a property that people don't just tanked.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
See. I'd be curious because I know how I've looked
at light Year, which was that's weird, you know, I.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Mean I thought it was a dumb idea, right, so
I'm not terribly surprised, but well, yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
I mean it's interesting. It's an interesting thought. I don't
know if it was worth doing, but like I looked
at that and was like, this is confusing. I wonder
how people will act to this. But I'd be interested
to talk to people showing up on opening day what
they think they're walking into. M you know, like, was
it as confusing for them or were they like, oh,
buzz light Year all right? Sure? Or not?

Speaker 3 (54:11):
I don't know, well, so I haven't seen light Year either,
but I definitely remember when the movie came out. When
light Year came out and the people online who were
talking about how it starts with the thing that says, oh,
this is the movie Andy watched. Yes that made him
a buzz Lightyear fan. I'm like, well, that that's like

(54:33):
extra stupid putting that on there.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
It's pretty complicated. Yeah, the buzz light Year, you know,
and love is an action figure based on this movie
you're about to watch.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
Right, Like, come on, And my thought is like, I
don't know if you remember in the nineties there was
the Buzz light Year of Star Command show, Yes, right,
and that had Patrick Warburton as the voice, and that
was like, oh, this is the like Buzz light Year
that the toy is based on. So I'm like, what
is this multi verse shit?

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Like it's a couple of leaps, That's what.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
I'm saying, right, So, yeah, to your point, you know,
the name light Year wasn't enough to get people into theaters,
but there was a time where the name Pixar wasn't
enough to theaters, and that's what's been so so just
just watered down. You know.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Yeah, you know this is an interesting one because I
think definitely people being conditioned to think, oh, I can
get Pixar at home is a huge part of it.
Like oh I because I've said this many many episodes ago.
But I mean, I've talked to fellow industry people who
I would assume are is passionate about going to theaters
for movies as we are, but they're not like they.

(55:42):
I mean, this is excluding people like life things and
kids and all that. That's entirely understandable, but they just
don't have a passion for going in the first place.
And I always found that kind of surprising. So there's that.
But also I will admit I didn't know this movie
even existed till a couple weeks ago. Ilio, Sorry, And

(56:03):
I gotta say what I've seen of it, I can't
rep my head around it, Like I don't know what
this story is about, and it sort of looks like
a cute generic Pixar character stuck in a psychedelic screensaver,
you know what I mean. And it reminds me. I
remember there was a Disney movie a year or two.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Ago in a strange universe or something.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
What was it, something like that, strange something and it
looked like the same thing, a bunch of animated humans
in a psychedelic screensaver. I remember seeing that trailer. I
was like, no, that's not gonna work. Like, I can't
rep my head around this. I don't know what the
I'm not attaching emotionally to anything. It's just strange world.
By the strange world, strange world. I think it's just
people trying to be dazzling indifferent and that's all well

(56:47):
and good, but at the heart of it, you gotta
care about the characters. You gotta care about what the
story is. Like. Fantastic visuals aren't impressive anymore, right, we
can do anything, So it's it's what's happening in those
fantastic visuals that's important. And I feel like I still
don't know what Elio's about, but I'm gonna go because

(57:09):
I love Pixar and I trust them still to at
least give me. Even like mid Pixar is still really
really good in my opinion, So I'm just going trusting them,
and I'm guessing, even though the trailer couldn't distilled down
why you should care about this, at least in my opinion,
I have a feeling I probably will, but I feel

(57:32):
like it's worth pointing out that if even I don't
get it right, maybe it wasn't sold as well as
it could be.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
Yeah. Well, I think it's just another indication of how
just the dynamics of theater going have shifted so much, right,
and the streaming element of it, you can't undersell it.
I mean, I look, I'm I'm firmly of the belief
that that if theatrical dies, stream mean will have facilitated it. Yeah,

(58:03):
Oh absolutely, yeah, right, And and that's a that's a
just a goddamn shame.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
And and I think I think we're we're staring down
the barrel of a lot more of Toy Story number blank,
stretching into infinity, you know, a couple more inside outs,
you know, like just more of the stuff that that
the names that we already know, you know. And and
the one thing Pixar used to be really really good

(58:31):
at was using people's affinity for the brand to try
out something brand new mm hmmm, and.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Get Wally something like a character you've never seen before
that doesn't speak for twenty minutes. Yeah, the whole movie,
the beginning first act of the movie is a silent film,
but everybody trusted them and it paid off. You know.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
It's I mean, honestly, it's very similar to what Marvel's
going through, you know. M Yeah, you know where Marvel
was able to be like, hey, you like make our stuff,
right check out Guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah, check out
ant Man or whatever, you know, and and they're having
something similar happen. So you know, again, hey, what's the
common denominator streaming there too?

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Another interesting part of this is, yes, we may or
Pixar may need to make Toy Story twenty seven, you know,
to stay afloat, But at the same time, I've been
reading articles saying that these studios do still need to
create new things so they can have more ip to mine, right, right, Like,

(59:32):
you really don't want to get into Toy Story twenty seven.
You want to try to like make Toy Story five
and then try this well Aga inside out not that
long ago was a new thing, right. Look at SEQL
makes a billion and a half dollars, so it's it
is kind of important that they do both, right, which
is I was kind of joking with you the other

(59:53):
day because they announced that they're going to make a
sequel to The Social Network, right, Aaron Zorkin himself, it's
going to be writing and directing apparently this sequel to
the Social Network. And I was saying, well, there you go.
That's well, oh, because this article was saying, you know,
it's really important that for companies like Disney that they
and even DreamWorks, you know, with how to Train Your Dragon.

(01:00:13):
A lot of the success of this ip feeds other things,
including parks, theme park rides, theme park merch, theme park attendants. Right,
and so I was kind of joking with you that
it's like, well, there you go. We now we got
a social network as an IP, Like, where's the theme
park ride?

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
I want to watch that stunt show?

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Yes, exactly exactly. People people writing equations on windows and
then getting splashed with water for some reason.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
In their in their doucheback hoodies and their effing flip
flops or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Yeah your f you flip flops?

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
Yeah yeah, well so so uh. Social Network two does
feel like like a no brainer of a movie because
it's been fifteen years since the last one, and holy shit,
has a lot of stuff happened in the real world
since then.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
That's true, the story is ongoing right.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
I mean, Mark Zuckerberg has completed his dissent from run
of the Mill villain villainy into you know, cartoonish super
villainy I know, right, and and you know he's the
he's the Freddy Krueger of this franchise. So we want
to see, you know, how he kills other people's attention
span and whatnot?

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Social Network five dream child, Right.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
I feel like this one will end with somebody being like, hey,
have you heard of this thing called Instagram? And he
just kind of gets this intrigued. Look, we just smashed
credits and you're like, oh, oh, the next one coming
in two years.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
It is funny to me that when that movie came out,
you watched it and Mark Zuckerberg spent so much time
trying to be like, look, I'm not like the way
Jesse Eisenberg plays me, you know in the movie, and
then like you see him now and you're like, no, no,
you're exactly like Jesse Eisenberg plays you in the movie, right, right,

(01:02:06):
It's it's incredibly sad. Uh. What's the saying?

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
Like, what what does a man gain if he loses
his soul but gains the world or whatever?

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
Right. I mean, here's a guy, he's got more money
than God, and he's just a miserable piece of shit.
It's I don't know. I mean seriously, again, this is
just to be clear, this is not zachy Rails against capitalism. However,
we're thinking about you have people we live in an
age of multi billionaires who are just miserable people, Like

(01:02:38):
clearly they are unhappy and and it's like they feel
like if I just gather more stuff, I will somehow
be less happy, excuse me, more happy? Right, But it's
making them less happy and and you know, I look
at this as as a warning, right, if all you're

(01:03:00):
doing is just pursuing dominance, you know, maybe it's not
Maybe it's not the way to Maybe that's not the
path to a centered life. I don't know. Is that crazy?
Do I sound insane?

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Not at all, not at all.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
I was just talking to my son recently. I'm like, look,
because he's like getting into the market and investing and stuff,
and I'm like, that's great, man, but don't like, don't
let that drive your entire existence. Just be keeping track
and you know, whatever, your goal shouldn't be to be like,
you know, wealthy, beyond reason. It should be to be comfortable,
have enough money to be to live comfortably.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Yeah, I think when it comes to that, certainly, even
like the market and trading things, it can almost feel
like a game you want to win, Yes, and it's
it's an unwinnable game, you know. And it's it's constantly
uh getting shooken up, and and it can really wipe
you out. Yeah, so it's it's definitely I think there's
an impulse to treat it like something to beat, but

(01:04:00):
that's just not how it works.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
Yeah, And what I've said to both of my older ones,
I'm like, look, I mean this is this is a
good age to start investing. Of course you might as
well be planning ahead. But but what do you are
do you want to put Do you want to build
up enough of a nestic to live comfortably or are
you trying to trying to you know, be a billionaire
or something? You know, because all of that stuff just

(01:04:24):
shapes shapes how you v yourself, how you v the world.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Right, I hadn't planned on going down this road, right anyway,
I'm hoping Aaron Sorkin covers all of this, everything that
I just said, yeah, well.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Send them the d M on Instagram and.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Aaron, I've been thinking about your movie. I'm sure you've
got your idea. Let me let me pitch you mine.
And then a week later I think, hey, I didn't
hear back, so just uh, just following up in case
you this got lost in your in box.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Yeah, I think I have something you might want to hear.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
So when is Social Network two coming out? Do we
know that?

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
I don't know. I saw it was just announced yesterday.
I'm not sure if there's a release datement.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
Okay, well, I one can presume it'll it'll be whatever
year it comes out. Probably next year would be my guess.
It'll be just in time for you know, award season.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Yeah. And on a side note, I saw that filming
is wrapped on the next Spielberg movie, which is a
UFO movie coming out summer, I think June twenty twenty six.
I was like that Elmo fainting gif, you know where
he's like falls over, Like, I just can't believe in
a year less than a year now going to get
a new Steven Spielberg UFO movie.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
I'm very excited, but it's gonna be like Papa Spielberg,
So it'll just be about like it'll be about a
newspaper guy who's who's going through files and looking at
pictures of potential UFO sightings without actually going anywhere and
encountering any rather than Mark Rye Lance right exactly. And

(01:06:06):
there will be a very sweeping John Williams score. So
it's all fine. So it'll be you know, it'll be
Spielberg kind of mixing together his his his current loves.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Yeah, that'd be okay.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
You know what, though I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
I'm still excited. I'm still excited.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
Do we know if John Williams is coming back to
do the score for this.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
That is a very good question. I don't know. Uh,
he's in his middle nineties at this point, and every
year I talk about going to see him conduct at
the Hollywood Bowl. Yeah, and this year is the first
year that it's been it's not John Williams at the Bowl.
It's the music of John Williams at the Bowl. Really,

(01:06:47):
so it sounds like he won't be there, which is
entirely understandable by the way, I mean, the fact that
he was continuing to produce into his nineties, these these
you know, Oscar nominated scores. That's incredible. So I think
the man's earned a little peace on the couch.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
If he wants a little rest, if he wants it, yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
I mean, of course I would love it. I would
love it if he does the score for this, or
even if he wants to compose a couple of themes
and let maybe his team do something with him. I'd
be into that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
He has said that he'd like to keep working as
long as he can, and I don't think anyone will
stop him if he wants to, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
By the way, while we were talking about Pixar sequels,
worth mentioning this just crossed my radar as well. Hey look,
Ratitituoy too is in the works.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
There you go, there you go. I mean, not surprising,
of course.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
But on the other hand, I don't always hate the
idea of his sequel if it's a character I like,
you know's there's like two ways to think of it.
I mean, there's obviously the cynical version of it, but
on the other hand, like, all right, well, I want
them to keep their lights on and if they can
at least find like Toy Story three might be my
favorite toy story, you know, like or certainly it had

(01:08:06):
some of the most potent moments in the entire series, right, right, So,
I don't know. I guess I want to remain semi optimistic.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
I mean, I think I think it'll I'm sure it'll
be fine, you know, right, Like I think we like
we don't mind the sequels, just also have some originals
that catch on as well.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
I hope they don't give up on doing like SEQL
original sequel original. I think that would be I mean,
I realized it's a business, and at some point even
Pixar might have to, you know, succumb to whoever their
master is. But like, I don't know, you know, like
I don't know, it's weird, it's weird. I mean, they've

(01:08:49):
been around, they've been around. I think of them still
as relatively new, and they're not. Man, they've been around
since like the middle nineties, right, So at some point,
you know, things just kind of exhaust themselves a little.
But you hope it's just a little bit of a
valley and then you have another peak again.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
That's that's sort of the thing that you realize is
like the Pixar doesn't have the benefit of being the
hot new thing, you know. But but hopefully the legacy
that they've built up is enough to want people to
dip their toes in and try out whatever thing that
they're trying to do, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
Yeah, and that people will come to these movies however
they're going to do that. I mean, I obviously theatrical
would be nice, but if things are changing, you know,
if streaming does become one of the equals of where
people show up for movies, we need to look at

(01:09:46):
how profitability works in that arena, you know, like just
because it makes X amount in theaters, but then it
does really really well on streaming. Hopefully that becomes a
new sort of quote unquote box office total that makes
that to be a success, right, Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
Hey, here's here's one last thing I wanted to mention
to you. You know. Gareth Edwards is out right now
making the rounds for Jurassic World Rebirth, which we'll be
talking about in our next regular show. So obviously while
doing that, he is also discussing Rogue one oh okay,
his one and only time in the Star Wars trenches.

(01:10:24):
He said that he has no intention of coming back
to Star Wars. He did his thing. I feel like
he's one of the few directors who was able to
escape with his dignity intact right right, in terms of
like the movie is well regarded despite the fact that
it was kind of a chop job. Yeah, yeah, good point, right,

(01:10:47):
But I thought I thought this was interesting when when
he was you know, when this is in an interview
with Business Insider, he is told, oh, you know, people
think of Rogue One as the best Star Wars movie
since Disney took over his quote, I thought this is interesting,
he says, I don't agree with it, but I appreciate it.
I'm very grateful that people say nice things. I was like,

(01:11:09):
what does he think like, I'm like, what is Garrett
Edwards his favorite Star Wars since the.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
That's interesting because if he wanted it to be humble,
he could just say like, oh, well that really means
a lot to me.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
That means a lot to me, right, exactly right. That
was my thought. I was like, so he must have
a favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
I bet it's Last Jedi. But he's just scared shitless
of saying.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
That because there's so much goodwill from all the fans
for him that he's just like, I'm not even wading
into that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
I don't I don't want to, you know. You know,
he's talked about how for the reshoots for that movie,
you know, which Tony Gilroy, who you know he has
since created and or is credited with. He he says
they worked together on the reshoots, so it wasn't a

(01:11:59):
situation where he was shunted to one side somebody else
came in. But but you had this very collaborative process
and and guess what, Edwards is still the credited director,
and yet there are elements that he he did not supervise.
And I'm like, what a what a fascinating process there,
you know? Yeah? Yeah, and yet you know the the

(01:12:20):
Darth Vader sequence, which many say is is is the
a highlight or the highlight of that movie? That was
that was Garrett Edwards who did that?

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
Really, Okay, that's very well. I mean it doesn't happen often,
but what a nice thing to hear that that collaboration,
you know, went well and it was successful.

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm actually I'm in the middle of revisiting
Rogue one right now because I watched all of and
or with Domina. So you know, we're trying to trying
to get through the movie and that's been challenging just
because all the stuff in my house. But but by
stuff I mean people, the many people in my house.
But it is interesting, how like it In many ways

(01:13:03):
it it it's uh, it's an it's a nice progression
on the in in other ways it's it's very distinct
tonally from the show because the show is is doing
something a little more cerebral, you know, and so you
know it it lines up pretty well, but there is still,

(01:13:23):
you know, a little bump as you go from one
section to the other.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
Interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
How's your Have you have you made your way further
through the show at all?

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
I haven't. I've been watching so many things. I've been
to the theater a lot lately. It's kind of been
my thing. I mean, like I said with Ballerina, it
was one night, you know, kind of early six something
like that, and I was like, well, I could watch
something here. I could just just as easily watch something
in the theater. It's like I should mention also, the

(01:13:52):
theaters a mile from my house, very easy to get to.
Pretty much feels like it's free just because I'm paying
that little monthly fee. So it was just it was appealing, like, oh,
there's a lot of things playing right now that I
wouldn't mind just hopping over there and checking out on
a big screen.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
And so that's kind of been my I think that's
good lately. Yeah, I think that's good. That that being said,
if you have not finished and Or by the next
time I talked.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Yeah, I will. There's new episodes of The Bear. I'm
putting that out there. I've got I gotta get to
those and The Bear and and or. Yes, and there
was some Titan Ocean Gate documentaries I had to watch
that I didn't even talk about. Yes, I watched them both.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
Wait, there's a second one.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
There's one on Netflix and there's one on Max or
HBO Max or whatever it's called.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
Now, what's what's the difference.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
I would say the Netflix one was the one I
may have preferred. It got a little bit more into
the details of crafting the thing and how it was
made and all the working with Boeing and how they
tested it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
And there's a lot of this is the Netflix one, this.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Is the Netflix one. There's a lot of behind the
scenes footage of them actually working on it, and footage
from inside the submersible with the freaking guy here. So
I didn't expect this. But basically his whole thing was
he wanted to make the whole out of carbon fiber, right,
which is not solid. It's a bunch of microscopic fibers
that are held together by some sort of you know,

(01:15:19):
polymer or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
It's it's like a filament that that winds around.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
So because he's not a great ideaid, he's a stupid idiot.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
That's because he was trying to save money. Yeah, right,
because it's cheaper to transport the thing. It's cheaper to uh,
you know, have a ship take it around. There's other
things too, man. He stored it outside in the winter
where things could freeze and expand and then melt.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
This guy's a genius.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
Well I never said that, but no, he was. That's
what he was.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
He was spoken of that way.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
Yeah, yeah, I mean no, he well, no, he was.
He was stubborn and and and selfish frankly and yes,
So anyway, you go down that deep, you've got this intense, intense,
intense pressure on the whole of your ship. So you
want something that's solid, not something that's made of microfibers.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
And so sorry, just the key point here, right, is
you have airplane fuselages are made of of microfiber holes, right,
And the difference there is that they're pressurized from the inside,
so they're pushing out and you're in the sky. So
that's how they're able to retain you know, resilience, right,

(01:16:34):
because you're not. There isn't pressure that's being placed on
them pushing down on them, right. And so this guy's like, oh,
they do planes like that, why can't they do you know,
submersibles like that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
It's like, bro, but you know what he you know
what he did have a lot of money, that's it. Yeah, right, yeah,
so's to flout the law, flout the rules. Yeah, there's
more to it. Basically, you can watch all these expert
he hired one by one join and leave because they're like,

(01:17:04):
this is this is I can't be a part of this.
But he continues and he continues anyway. But there's this
crazy footage where he we're inside the submersible with him
and he's going deeper and deeper in here, ping ping
ping ping, And those are the microfibers bursting yep, yep,
and he was just like, Oh, that's normal, that'll happen.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
You're freaking kidding me.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
It's it's it's crazy. So that's the Netflix one that
was the one I might have preferred, because we got
a lot of footage of the construction of the thing,
being in the submersible with him, a lot of interesting stuff.
And then the other one, the one that was on Max,
is a little bit more not a bad way, but

(01:17:47):
like more talking heads and people who were there, and
a little bit more getting to know the players a bit,
which I enjoyed them both honestly, because I just find
the story fascinating. But I really enjoyed most seeing sort
of the nuts and bolts of how the thing was
put together and why it didn't work. Yeah, that was
kind of interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
Yeah. I'm part way through the Netflix and I didn't
know about the maxim but I'll I'll have to check
that out. Yeah, I'm like weirdly obsessed with with this story,
you know, just because it's like it's such a it's
such an exemplar of man's hubris in it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
Yeah, I mean it's it's fast. I mean it kind
of goes to what I was talking about earlier, where
with the Wes Anderson thing, where it's always nice knowing
when there's something with that works out really really well.
I still enjoy seeing the early part of the story
when the people don't know that it's going to go well,
and that's interesting the decisions that they made even when
things were certain, And I think this might play into
that also where unfortunately, this is the flip side, something

(01:18:45):
went really really badly, But it's still interesting to look
back and look at the decisions that were made along
the way and admire the people who had the balls
to step away, you know, from a job that probably
paid a lot of money, right, you know, but their
their convictions were so strong you would like to think
you would do that and not be like, well, I know,

(01:19:07):
but I don't know. It's paying the rent, you know,
like it. It's really admirable watching these people use their
smarts to know better and to say something. They boldly
said something and then they stepped away. So it's yeah,
there is something interesting about the process of it all.
I think for me, right, I will check that out. Actually,
while we're talking about streaming, this is I don't know

(01:19:27):
if you've seen the promos for this. But you got
this show coming up on Netflix next month called Untamed.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
Have you seen this? No, it's like a murder mystery
at Yosemite, starring Eric Banna and Sam Neil. Okay, and
I'm just like sold, that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Yeah, don't even need to know.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
I'm like done. I'm watching that right right?

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
That does?

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
You said Netflix, It's gonna be on Netflix. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
That does in a weird sort of way, feel like
it's fulfilling some sort of alg rhythmic thing for like us. Yeah,
you know, I don't care because I want to watch that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
You know, there is a speaking of Eric Banna he he.
He has like a franchise called The Dry. Have you
seen this?

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
No, I haven't even heard of it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
It's really good. Yeah, it's so it's from twenty twenty, okay,
and it's called The Dry and it's it's Eric Banner
stars as like a you know, he's a federal agent,
you know. But this is it's in Australia and it's
just like a crime you know, it's like a procedural
type thing. And that I saw that, yeah, yeah, and

(01:20:39):
it was very good. I enjoyed it. And then like
last year, or whenever it was. No, I guess it
was last year, twenty twenty four. Yeah, it's called Force
of Nature and it's the sequel. Oh okay, yeah, and
it's just you know, it's just Eric Banna playing some character.
It's just really good, nice, nice, and the Vann is

(01:21:00):
one of those guys. I've always liked him, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
Same Sam and I've spoken about when I worked in movies.
He was one of the more personable and nicer celebrities
that I encountered and always ask me how I was doing,
Like a genuinely nice guy. So I've kind of, you know,
kept tabs on him throughout the years, and it makes
me happy he's still doing his thing.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
Well, you know, check it out. It's in my voodoo.
It's the Dry Okay, you got like a solid movie
waiting for you, perfect, great, Yeah, so check that out. Well,
I guess I guess that's all the news there is
this week, right right?

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
Uh, Zachie, I don't know, there's like a little nugget
to drop the other day. It might not even be
worth our time.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
But okay, well, why don't you put it out there?
I'll decide if I must.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
They found a director to direct the new James Bond movie.
I don't know if you'll have any interest in that.
We can move on, all right, f one guys, now.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
I guess we should talk about this.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
I'm dying to know what you think about this.

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
So okay, So the big news is, as as of
yesterday's we're recording this, Denny Villeneuve has been set as
director for James Bond twenty six or if you prefer
Amazon's James Bond one right right, this is you know,
we talked about it in a in a Patreon episode

(01:22:22):
a few months ago back when the Amazon people basically
strong armed Barbara Broccley and Michael G. Wilson. And by
strong armed, I mean they handed him a sack with
the dollar sign on it and a billion dollars in it. Yeah, yeah,
And we're like, hey, go away, and they were like okay.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
Like fine, yeah, like basically a blank check, like what
will it take to make you go away? And they
found a number and it worked.

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
Yeah. So so you know what, respect because they they
did their time.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
They did they did.

Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
I have I have just like deep qualms about the
idea that Jeff is now deciding the fate of James Bond.
You know, it's it's like Blowfeld owning Double O seven.
I have issues with that. But regardless of Amazon, which
owns MGM, is now who charged James Bond? They got
they have a producing to it, right, it's David Hayman.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
And Amy Pascal.

Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
Amy Pascal right from the Spider Man films anyway, So
there's a lot of questions, well, who's gonna direct, Who's
gonna direct the new James Won and and uh. People
were saying Christopher Nolan, And I said from the start,
I said, not gonna be Christopher Nolan. I can tell
you that indeed it wasn't. I was hoping it would
be Martin Campbell. To be honest, that would be perfect, right.
I'm like, talk about a good luck charm because he

(01:23:39):
inaugurated the Brosnan era, he inaugurated the Craig era and
both turned out pretty well. But but I cannot see
anything wrong with Denny Villeneuve doing a James Bond movie.
I was feeling, honestly, after the sale, I was like,
am I even interested? Maybe? Maybe No Time to Die
was like as good an off ramp as any mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
This got me interested, Yeah, because I mean with Amazon
buying it, especially the way that it happened, paying people
to basically go away, it almost feels like, Okay, now
he's been Yeah, it's been dirty, it's been He's like,
now he's reduced to ip exactly right. And so then
when you bring on you know, Villainov, he's like a
director with an uncompromising vision and he's celebrated for it.

(01:24:24):
So bringing someone who who has the skill set he does,
who has the prestige that he does, and is allowed
to kind of do his thing, him directing a Bond
movie makes me think that like, okay, so this won't
be like a product, Yeah, you know what I mean,
this will be something from someone who with a vision
and that that that makes me excited about it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
Yeah. And and I I think that Amazon obviously they're
very smart to lock in somebody like him, because right
away it it silence is exactly what we were just
talking talking about, which is that sense of like, oh
now James Bond is like this, you know. And and
you know, do I think Villeneuve is sticking around for

(01:25:08):
the duration or for a trilogy. I don't think so.
I think he's probably he's going to tap in do
his thing, check it off the list of personal accomplishments,
and move on and do whatever else. Right. But a
couple of things that make me happy. Number One, he's
not doing this until after doing Messiah, right, So that
means that they're not rushing something out. M So it

(01:25:29):
puts the development process in place, but it gives them
enough runway to make, you know, make the movie hopefully
the right way. M hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
Yeah, And it does make me interested. I mean, of
course he's a name, and they would want someone like
that to kick off the Amazon era of James Bond.
But he must have a take, and it kind of
makes me curious. What's the take? I mean, the Daniel
Craig take. Was it was pre or was it pre
or post Batman Begins or same year?

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
Maybe it well, development would have coincided with that movie's release.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
Okay, because I mean that was kind of the era
of grounding things, you know, the people that used to
have sort of heightened realities that they existed in Batman,
James Bond, you know, secret gadgets, things like that. It
was like we're getting all these people back on the ground,
you know, and trying to have an explanation for how
everything in their world worked. And so I'm curious what

(01:26:26):
Villa knows take is, I mean, do we get back
into the fanciful, slightly heightened version of the gadgets that
Bond interacts with and villains. What's his take? That's that's
what I'm curious about, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
You know what I wouldn't mind seeing. I wouldn't mind
seeing like period pictures.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
That'd be kind of cool, frankly, right, like a sixties.

Speaker 3 (01:26:45):
Yeah, Like, I don't know how practical that is for
the long term, and probably that's not something Amazon would
want because that's you're sort of like locked into that
from now until god knows when, right, you know. But
I mean I think that's always the essential problem with
these films is you have to sort of squint your
eyes a little bit and pretend that British intelligence in

(01:27:10):
you know, the twenty twenties has the same global sway
that it did in the nineteen fifties and sixties, which
I mean that's just not the case, right, Right, So
there's something sort of sci fi about that, right, And
it's like why not take back to take it back
to the era when it was you know, relevant and

(01:27:33):
applicable you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
Know, yeah, you know, I mean, how much do you
want to see like echoes of real world politics in
your escapism, your Bond escapism, Like I kind of want
to see lasers inching up toward his crotch again, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
Yeah, I mean exactly. You know, assuming this is set
in the here and now, it would be the first
James Bond ever where he works for His Majesty's secret service. Hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:27:58):
Wow, Yeah, you're right, is pretty nuts.

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
But but I suspect now that the directors set the
mad you know, Derby for to decide who's going to
play James Bond is going to kick into gear.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
I was saying after the last one that I felt
fairly certain that the next Bond would be a person
of color. M h that was when the when Barbara
Brockley and Michael Wilson are still in charge.

Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:24):
If I were to guess now, I don't think that
will be the case. I think it's going to be
a a white person.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
Yeah, I mean I've seen I think I agree with you,
but I've seen Aaron Pierre floated.

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
If if Aaron Pierre is cast as James Bond, I
would have zero problem with that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
The second I heard that, I was like, yep, yeah, yep,
that would be really interesting. But yeah, I don't know,
we'll see.

Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
I think that Amazon's goal will be to stay away
from anything that even even even resembles quote unquote woke. Sure.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
Sure.

Speaker 3 (01:28:54):
As much as I disagree with that framing, I think
they're they're gonna want it to be as as down
the you know, strict strictly formula as possible, right right,
you know, so if you want to give Henry cavill
a chance, I feel like now might be the time
before the window closes.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
Yeah, I could see that too. I'd really like that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
I think he would think he'd.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
Be great, and I could see him in what I
kind of want to see, the slightly heightened version. I
don't know, he's just got that fun twinkle in his eye,
you know what I mean, where he's not trying to
be grim and gritty.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
Well, you know, we saw him do something similar in
The Man from Uncle.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
I realized that's what I was imagining in my head.
The sort of tone of that movie, which yeah, we
both really enjoyed, kind of unsung if people haven't seen it,
Man from Uncle is a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (01:29:43):
That one just kind of flew under everybody's radar, right
m hm. But I mean I mean Cavell right now
is in.

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
His early forties probably damn wow, So.

Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
He might be. He might be edging out of the
like the age range for it to work.

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
Okay, Yeah, he's forty two.

Speaker 3 (01:30:05):
Well, hold on a second, because because Pierce Brosnan was
forty two in nineteen ninety five, so exactly thirty years ago,
and he was in Golden Night he was forty two.

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
Frankly, I mean the way regardless of age, you know,
age is just a number, right, Like Henry Cavill as
he as he is right now, for the next ten years,
I could see being an interesting fun bond.

Speaker 3 (01:30:27):
I would agree with that. Yeah, I And look, if
we're doing Vegas odds, I would say overwhelmingly it favors
Henry cavill you know. I'm sure there's a few others,
but like I think, in terms of sort of looking
the part and everything, I think he's up there. Plus
he was in he was second to Daniel Craig right

(01:30:49):
twenty years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
Oh wow. Maybe just a little too young at the time.

Speaker 3 (01:30:52):
Way too. I mean, he would have been in his
early twenties.

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
Oh wow, right, do you think we should I mean,
I agree, should we DM this to Aaron Sorkin? I
think so he has nothing to do with this, Let's
just keep telling him everything we're thinking about.

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
I think the social network too should be the James
Bond sequel. I think right, I think I make it
the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:31:11):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:31:12):
I just wanted to, like, I don't know, just keep
texting him throughout the day and he's like, why do
these two.

Speaker 3 (01:31:19):
Guys keep hey, just following up.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
Yeah, hope you're doing well.

Speaker 3 (01:31:24):
Just want to make sure this doesn't get lost in
your inbox. Come on, come on, Aaron, call us see.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
But then I'd like to think when I stop, like
if something happens to me, like I fall down the
stairs and I'm stuck because I broke my leg, and
then he doesn't get one of those annoying messages from me.
He's like, oh no, I think something happened to Brian
and it ends up that, Okay, that's the reason someone
finds me in the stairwells because all the bombarding messages
I've been sitting there and Sorkin, you.

Speaker 3 (01:31:52):
Get airlifted out of the house, you know, Yeah, yeah,
the reporter outside like, as you're being airlifted in the back.
Reporters like and Oscar winning screenwriter Aaron Sorkin orchestrated a
daring resky exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
And then I'm just like thank you, and he's like,
please please stop messaging me as I'm being lifted out
of the into the area, as he blocks you on
his phone exactly, and I can't help but laugh.

Speaker 3 (01:32:22):
Hey, Brian, there's a new movie in theaters right now.
Why don't we talk about it on the other side
of this.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
And now we're pleased to bring you our feature.

Speaker 3 (01:32:40):
And we are back, and before we get to our
main discussion, I just wanted to say this news literally
just broke between between the time we went to break
and just now. The person who composed the music we
just heard, Lalo Schiffrin, has passed away.

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
Yeah yeah, well, and also he's responsible for one of
the most iconic and well known themes of all time,
Mission Impossible.

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
Mission Impossible. We were just singing his praises a few
weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
Yeah wow, I mean, what must that be like to
come up with a tune that the world knows, you know?
I mean I even think of like that's the thing
when in real life you're joking with your friends or
your parents and you're like, oh, I'm gonna do this,
and I'm going to sneak around this corner.

Speaker 3 (01:33:35):
You just go do do do?

Speaker 1 (01:33:37):
You know, like it's shorthand, it's it's transcended just being
a theme for a TV show. That's what an amazing thing.

Speaker 3 (01:33:45):
Yeah, And obviously, in addition to composing the Mission Impossible theme,
he was he was extremely prolific during the sixties, seventies
into the eighties. He you know, he did the music
for most of the Dirty Harry movie Bullit. He did
the score for the Star Skin Hutch theme, the theme
from Mannix. He also did the theme for the Planet

(01:34:07):
of the Apes television series, and most recently, and this
is not even recent anymore, but the Rush Hour films.
He did the scores for all three of those. Really yeah, yeah,
so very distinctive music. And he was somebody who went
from a young age I recognized his name and I
was able to link it to a specific kind of

(01:34:28):
music and remarkable contribution to the world of TV and film.
So be gone at ninety three.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
We Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up. And I mean,
how amazing and appropriate. We just played his music, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:34:44):
Yeah, And that music, for those of you who don't know,
it was the Paramount fanfare from like nineteen seventy six
until two thousand and four, I believe, And so I
used to hear it at the movie theaters all the time.
And the version that we play was on the home
video releases, the VHS releases of Paramount movies.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
Yeah. So sometimes on VHS they used to have trailers
and commercials for you know, like pepsi or coke or
something like that, and then they would play that. And
now for our future presentation, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:35:15):
So speaking of our feature presentation, the movie F one
is in theaters right now.

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
That's true. And I have to know, Zachi, is anyone
else back besides us? I just don't feel right if
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:35:29):
If you don't, well, as it happens, Brian, you know
who else is back? Who's that why? After a thirty
year hiatus from the world of Formula one racing. It's
Sonny Hayes as played by Brad Pitt Bravo.

Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
Yes, you know, but that's the thing I mean, is
he a has been or is he a never was.
That's what I want to know.

Speaker 3 (01:35:52):
I think that's the question this movie is asking as
to grapple with one thing. I will say, and I
don't think you will disagree with me at all that
Brad Pitt is a well preserved specimen, ain't he.

Speaker 1 (01:36:06):
He's just one of those guys where you, especially when
you're looking at him on an enormous screen, you're like,
damn it, that guy is handsome. Yeah, yeah, I mean
like it's I I think I texted you after the
movie and I was like, I just couldn't stop staring
at his hair. It was like it was I enjoyed
it and I was infuriated at the same time. It's

(01:36:27):
just something to behold.

Speaker 2 (01:36:29):
It is.

Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
It is definitely trippy to see Brad Pitt fully in
his Robert Redford in Sneakers phase of his career, you know,
which is weird.

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
Because he still feels younger somehow to me a little
bit then the way that I perceived Robert Redford in
the Sneakers era. Sure, at the same time, I will say,
this is one of the first times where I did
feel like, oh he is an elder figure. Yeah now,
and maybe that has to do with. I mean, if

(01:37:00):
I think of most recently, once upon a time in
Hollywood or something, he's still wearing like T shirts and jeans,
and he's older, but he's still like leaping onto rooftops
and that sort of thing. But here he's you know,
a little grizzled in the world, weary, which we don't
always see from him.

Speaker 3 (01:37:15):
So well, I think I think it's a new new
lane for him to be in. And I'm based on
this film. I'm all about it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
Yeah, I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:37:23):
So this is This is directed by Joseph Kazinski, a
he of Top Gun Maverick fame, and also of course
he he got on my radar with Tron legacy. So
it's it's actually been been great to see him just
carry on and become kind of a name under himself,
you know, uh. Produced by by Jerry Bruckheimer. And and
I'll tell you, as as racing movies go, this is

(01:37:46):
about as as rote and predictable as it gets. And
I am here for all of it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:56):
Yes, yeah, yeah, Well, you know, I don't know that
I had known that this was a Bruckheimer production, and
it absolutely makes sense, absolutely yeah, yep, yep. And I've
kind of missed it. I've kind of missed what Bruckheimer
brings a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
He's got his own unique gear if you will, he
gets into it is interesting. I just had this thought.
I know they've been they've been kicking around the idea,
they've been kicking the tires on if you will, a
Days of Thunder sequel, yep. And I was watching this movie.
I was like, wouldn't this just be that, like you
know what I mean, Like, like the plotline of this movie,

(01:38:38):
I feel like that's what a Days of Thunder movie
would a sequel would be.

Speaker 1 (01:38:41):
I am an entire agreement with you, but I can
also hear Tom Cruise in the distance going no.

Speaker 3 (01:38:48):
No, it isn't. He's running towards you in a full
sprint to be like.

Speaker 1 (01:38:52):
No, no, no, no no. Yeah, yeah it'd be different,
I swear, But no, you're right. This feels like what
the plot would be for that movie.

Speaker 2 (01:39:02):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:39:04):
Well, yeah, this is an interesting one. Actually, I'm kind
of looking forward to digging into it with you, because, well,
first of all, let me ask, are you familiar with
F one? And I know there's that series, the reality
series on Netflix, and so many people have recommended it
to me, and I believe them. I'm sure it's great.
I haven't seen it yet. I wasn't, and so you know,

(01:39:27):
there were I don't think that's gonna hinder anyone's enjoyment
of the movie, but I did, Like if I was
watching a movie about football or baseball or something, sometimes
I can understand the tricks the characters are pulling, like, oh,
if you manipulate this, this will buy you this amount
of time and you still won't get kicked out, and
you can do that sort of thing. I didn't have
that going into this, so I was just kind of

(01:39:49):
going with it, as you know, because yeah, Sonny knows
how to manipulate the game a little bit. Whether or
not that would actually work in real life, I don't know,
but it was making me realize, like, oh, I guess
I don't really know. You know, Oh, there's this red
flag thing that means this, which means an advantage for that,
and I was like, oh, I guess I don't really
know these things.

Speaker 3 (01:40:07):
I mean, yeah, I look. I mean the the extent
of inside track knowledge if you if you will, that
I have about about car racing is that cars go fast, right, Uh,
and and I realized watching this, I watching this for me,
it's it's a little bit it's like watching Casino Royale.

(01:40:30):
Yeah I know anything about poker. Yeah, but I'm like, well,
I guess that's that seems important what they did, you know,
But if the film dramatically exactly, oh, there's there's like
a music sting right there, so that must mean something,
you know. And and that's sort of what it was
with this, where I'm like, well, I'll go with this
because you tell me that, and I'm I'm, you know,

(01:40:51):
following the rhythm that that you're laying down, And that
was enough for me. Honestly, what I realized watching this,
I was like, man, I just love race car movies
because yeah, yeah, right, because because uh four versus Ferrari
was one of my favorites when it came out. Rush
with I Continue to Believe is just an unsung film.

(01:41:12):
You know, it's not nearly talked about enough, you know,
h And you know I like Days of Thunder, you know.
So I'm like, you know, I don't I don't know
about F one, I don't know about stock car racing.
I don't know none of it. I don't know I
don't know, uh soapbox derby racing, but but I know
enough to be like, if you tell me, tell me

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what what to be invested in, I'll go along with it.
I'll go along with the journey because it matters to
the characters if I care about the characters, and I
cared about the characters here.

Speaker 1 (01:41:40):
Yeah, and I I agree because with racing because it's
fun and it's fast. But just we talk about this,
I mean, the sports film formula is just undeniable. Right
if we can attach ourselves to a character and there's
a moment where they're losing, we want to see them win.
Then most of the time they do, and you just

(01:42:00):
it's it's almost like cheating, you know, like the movie
is cheating because it's like, of course we're going to
feel this rush and be excited and pump our fists
in the air by the end. And so yeah, yeah,
I'm always a sucker for a good sports film.

Speaker 3 (01:42:15):
Yeah, I think for me, obviously, Brad Pitt, we bring
our own just general affinity for him with us into
the movie theater, so that helps. Like he plays somewhat
of an archetype, and Brad Pitt is very good playing
that archetype. So you can go along with that. I
mean from the first scene of the movie, you know

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where he like he's like sleeping in between laps and
then he gets up, he walks out into the you
know that whole thing. It all, it all works for me,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:42:46):
Yeah, if we don't win, don't wake me up.

Speaker 3 (01:42:48):
Exactly right. I totally love that. And and by the way,
let me give it up for my boy Shay Wigham
making his second appearance this summer.

Speaker 1 (01:42:56):
Yeah, I thought the same thing. I was happy to
see him.

Speaker 3 (01:42:58):
That that one of the most pendable. Hey, that guy
is working today. But but damnson Idris, first time I've
ever seen him. This guy blew me away.

Speaker 1 (01:43:10):
Oh he's great.

Speaker 3 (01:43:10):
Yeah, a terrific presence. And what I what I really
liked is that this is a film that essentially big picture,
you have you have a an F one team that's
not doing so hot, and so they bring in uh
Brad Pitt as Sonny Hayes to be the the ringer
essentially for for this two person team. And what what

(01:43:34):
you think and what the way the movie sets it
up is it's gonna be this this rivalry between between
you know, the young the the young up and coming
guy who is Joshua Pierce played by Damson Addres, and
then and then Brad Pitt's character, and and they do
they do that, they do that rivalry thing. But I
think the movie does something more interesting where it tracks

(01:43:59):
how they they learned to be a team. And and
I was, I was with the movie on every step
of that journey.

Speaker 1 (01:44:08):
Yeah, yeah, because they they have their ups and downs,
each of them, yeah, you know, and they each have
growth they have to do in addition to the growth
with one another. Right, Yes, makes it. You know, It's
not like one of them is just always right and
the other has to catch up, which is kind of nice.

Speaker 3 (01:44:27):
I think for me, I was really I was really
tracking with the crowd's energy. I think you mentioned, I
think before you got on that that your crowd was
was pretty full when you saw it. Yes, yeah, And
this is like three in the afternoon. I went to
a four o'clock show. It was it was the Imax,
and it was, you know, just about four fifths full.

Speaker 2 (01:44:48):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:44:49):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:44:50):
And there there's a scene in the movie where a
character gets into a crash where where the car sort
of gets tossed off the track, mm hmm. And I
almost as one I heard in the in the audience,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:45:06):
I had the same experience actually I saw when I
saw Materialists. I saw it at a theater that I
don't usually go to, and it was weird to me
because it's, you know, more adult themed. But there was
a lot of young people in there and they were
really noisy, like talking through the movie, laughing at inappropriate moments,

(01:45:27):
and I just hadn't been used to that. I don't
know why. I don't get a lot of that at
the theater i'd typically go to, so I kind of
had that in my head. So seeing this, yes, like
that moment happens, there's a crash and then the sound
of the film basically drops out, so you know, the
film itself kind of gasps. Yeah, and and yes, my

(01:45:47):
theater gasped. And then I did have a split second
moment where I was wondering if anyone would ruin it,
just because that had recently happened to me. Pin drop,
Pin drop. Everybody was on board, everybody was holding.

Speaker 3 (01:45:58):
There, nobody was like, well that just happened.

Speaker 1 (01:46:03):
By the way, have you seen the Smurfs trailer?

Speaker 3 (01:46:05):
Yeah? I haven't, and I'll tell you why, because I'm
gonna be reviewing that for the paper. So I'm trying
to like, Okay, I'm like, the less I see of
that movie, the better. I just want to be able
to watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:46:15):
Well, then I won't say anything else, but take you
know what I just said as a as a statement.
It literally feels like an SNL sketch of all those
types of lines just for like, you know, two and
a half minutes. Anyway, Sorry, I look forward to your review,

(01:46:38):
but you know, I want to say, I do feel
like I have to call something out, which I think
is kind of interesting and I'm kind of wrapping my
head around it. And I'm curious if you felt this too.
So I like this movie. I recommend this movie. It's
super fun, it's thrilling, it's a great theatrical experience.

Speaker 3 (01:46:53):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:46:56):
It's also I was kind of clocking it's an interesting
hybrid of like nineties sports films, like cliches and all.
Like we were just talking about the underdog. There's even
like a villain in this movie, which felt straight out
of like a nineties like Bruckheimer film, right, which we
maybe we can get into spoilers, but like you know, like, yeah,

(01:47:19):
it kind of came toward the end and I was like, huh,
but it it feels on track for the type of
films that Bruckheimer mixed. But the movie also has a
bit more modern of a sensibility, like a more modern
filmmaker making a nineties Bruckheimer film, which is kind of interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:47:39):
Yeah, he's making the movies he grew up with.

Speaker 1 (01:47:41):
Yes, but it also felt like interpreted through his lens
or prism or voice or something. And so it felt
like it was a little a little less willing to
have its heart on its sleeve, yeah, and felt like
it wanted to play it a little bit cooler, afraid
that maybe if it leaned into certain sort of thing
that might be a little too corny, right, So you

(01:48:03):
know what I mean, Like you can imagine this version
had it been made in the nineties, it would have
been a little more willing to dip into the big
emotions of it. And this one, I felt, had a
little cooler of a feeling. And I was trying to
think about how to articulate this, and it reminded me
stick with me here. It reminded me of the movie AI,

(01:48:27):
where you have a Stanley all that you have a
Stanley Kubrick story which is very cold and you know,
in sci fi and whatever, but told by Steven Spielberg
who's very warm, and so the end result is an
interesting mash of styles that feels like, oh interesting, Like

(01:48:50):
I can see if Spielberg had fully made this, it
would feel all in on this, or if Kubrick had
made it would have filled all in on that, and
instead it was an interesting mash of styles with this film.
It was for me Bruckheimer and Kazinski. You have Bruckheimer
who's big, bombastic, big action, big emotions, cliches like proudly cliches,

(01:49:12):
and Kazinski he's kind of about visual precision and sometimes
occasionally like emotionally a little sterile, you know, thinking of
like Tron and Oblivion. Yeah, and I've heard his films
described as antiseptic, you know, And this felt like an
interesting mashing of that for me where I and I

(01:49:34):
think I only clocked it when that villain was introduced
and the way that that all played out, because it
felt like something from a different film.

Speaker 3 (01:49:42):
For me, well, I think given when that plot element
enters the story, it it felt a little a little
like oh, oh okay, we're doing that kind of thing,
which I didn't mind, by the way, No no, no,
no me either, But it was I mean, it was

(01:50:04):
introduced late enough into the movie that that it I
became aware of it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:10):
Yes, yeah, well just my point. The only point I'm
making is I did feel like I wouldn't have minded
a little more warmth.

Speaker 3 (01:50:18):
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:50:19):
I like the characters, I like their journeys. I was
cheering it at times and I was like oh at
other times. Yeah, but it also did feel a little
Kazinskish to me more than bruckheimer Ish. And I wonder
if you could have tipped the scale just slightly a little,
a little bit more warmth.

Speaker 3 (01:50:39):
To it all, and I would have ask youoid that,
Let me ask you, where where does Top Gun Mavericks
sit on that spectrum?

Speaker 1 (01:50:45):
For you see? And I literally thought about that because
I didn't think about that during Top Gun. And I
wonder if that's Tom Cruise. Okay, well you know Tom,
it is Bruckheimer. But Tom Cruise I think can make
the movie he wants to make. And I think he's
got a great instinct, you know what I mean. So
I don't want to this is more like something I noted.

(01:51:08):
I'm not saying that this like brought it down or anything,
but I just thought it was interesting. I thought it
was a cooler feeling film than the version that might
have had just a little more I don't know, maybe
old school warmth to it, yeah, but maybe it would
play different the second time. But it's just something I clocked.

(01:51:28):
And the Kubrick Spielberg thing, Bruckheimer Kazinski, yeah, mashing thing
was something I landed on on the drive home, and
I was like, oh, that is kind of interesting, and
I was wondering if Zachie felt that at all.

Speaker 3 (01:51:39):
I think that that's definitely Kazinsky is aesthetic, so I
absolutely pick up on that. I think that the moments
that this film does allow for a kind of emotional
through line, those did track for me. I think that

(01:52:00):
they set up a relationship between Brad Pitt and the
Kerry Condon character that I found I found refreshingly old
school but also very sweet.

Speaker 1 (01:52:12):
That's a good way of putting it. Refreshingly old school.

Speaker 3 (01:52:14):
Right, Yeah. I was thinking about how I could see
an older version of this movie, like an eighties or
nineties version of this movie where there's like there's like
a young lady who we see throughout the movie who's
one of the pit crew, and she's kind of stumbling
and whatever. And as I was watching, I was like,

(01:52:38):
I could see a version of this movie where she
is like the romantic interest. Sure, and I appreciated that
they found they instead went for something that was more
age appropriate.

Speaker 1 (01:52:47):
I agreed, I'm glad it wasn't yeah, because they do
have a character like that, a pit crew person who's
finding her.

Speaker 3 (01:52:53):
Way right in the film.

Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
And I did actually, as it's not a huge part
of the movie, but I did enjoy that relationship that
Sonny had with her. It felt it added texture and
personality to the group we're seeing. He's there, you know,
obviously they have a team, and it made the team
feel like it had personalities within it versus just a
group of people standing around Sonny.

Speaker 3 (01:53:18):
I think the the Joshua Pierce character, what I what
I liked about him is that it isn't a question
like the team is not doing well, but it's not
a situation where it's like this guy is is cocky
and over his skis and and he's much more of
a heel character. And instead what you realize is he's

(01:53:41):
a guy who's very good, but he's so concerned with
the showboat aspect, the social media aspect, if you will.
And you know, ultimately Sonny's role in this film is
getting Josh where he needs to.

Speaker 1 (01:53:59):
Be, you know, and you can imagine that character almost
being shorthand with those things where it's just like he
cared he's young, he cares more about social media. But
I thought the movie did a good job of showing
why he would because that's the world we live in,
and that's the media is following him and wants him
to put on a show, and when he puts on
a show, that's what gets some advertisers. And that's what,

(01:54:21):
you know, I mean, that is that's the game now,
that is part of it, you know. I actually, I
mean this is not news to a lot of people
that played sports video games. But I remember several years
ago my brother was telling me about like where Madden
is now, which of course has been around since we
were little kids, very rudimentary versions, but now an aspect
of that game is who you choose to be and

(01:54:42):
how you choose to talk to the media, you know,
And it's like that's that's part of the game, right, right,
And I just I find that kind of fascinating And
it would almost feel strange if a younger person in
a movie like this wasn't wrestling with that relationship with
between his actual job and the things that come with

(01:55:02):
the job.

Speaker 2 (01:55:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:55:04):
You know, there's one scene where where Sonny and Josh
are sitting together and he keeps like looking at his phone. Yeah,
and I remember watching that. I was like, man, dude,
put your phone down, you know. Uh yeah, and then
and then Pitt's character is like, man again with the phone,
just you know, that's just noise, you know, and I'm like, man,
this is good advice. It's good advice for everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:55:23):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:55:24):
Yep. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:55:25):
The relationship between them most totally on board with. So,
so this was the dilemma I had was I was
trying to figure out when I go to the bathroom
should I Should I go when characters are talking, or
should I go when a race is happening, because I
couldn't figure out what's more important. Yeah, that's funny, right,
because I found all of that stuff compelling. You know,

(01:55:48):
we haven't even talked about the character of Reuben, played
by by Javier Bardam. I love Javier Bardam just in general,
but I really liked his character in this just effortless.

Speaker 1 (01:55:58):
I mean, you bring in a guy who knows how
to just show up and bring it just by being there,
and he takes like a character that could just feel like,
come on, man, I got everything to lose and then
dips out of the movie for a minute and then
comes back. Hey, man, No, seriously, I got everything to lose.
But he is so memorable because of Bardem.

Speaker 3 (01:56:15):
Because of Bardam. There's a scene where Bardam is looking
at a hospital chart and he has to put on
his reading glasses and I was like, there's my boy,
Brian right there.

Speaker 1 (01:56:26):
I literally thought the same that. I completely clocked that.
That actually warms my heart. You thought of me, That's
so funny. I literally thought like, that's my future. I
start carrying these things around.

Speaker 3 (01:56:43):
Hey, if Javier can do it, you can do it too.

Speaker 1 (01:56:46):
He did look good. He did look good.

Speaker 3 (01:56:49):
That's so funny.

Speaker 1 (01:56:54):
Karen Condon great. I really think I only know her
from Banshee's of in Sheeran, and I remember why that
movie and looking her up because I was like, who
is this?

Speaker 2 (01:57:02):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:57:02):
She just made such an impression in that film, and
I think likewise in this.

Speaker 3 (01:57:06):
No, but again you can well we also we also
know her from from telling us that that Tony Stark's
life signs have ceased. Oh really, she's the voice of Friday.

Speaker 1 (01:57:17):
Oh I didn't know that, now you know. Yeah, well
that's gonna help me out in Cinematrix.

Speaker 3 (01:57:22):
Thank you. Yeah, that's you got a whole bunch of
carry Connson movies.

Speaker 1 (01:57:27):
Oh, I think about I try to clock Mousie trailers,
all that that new Darren Aronofsky movie that has like
Austin Butler, Zoe Kravits, all these people are Oh, give
it to me, give it to me. This is gonna
like crush on stage.

Speaker 3 (01:57:43):
Is there a better feeling than getting the one percent?

Speaker 1 (01:57:46):
No, there isn't.

Speaker 3 (01:57:48):
I I think I've said this before. One time I
got the zero percent and it was it was Lon
Cheney in High Noon. Yep. And honestly I could I
could have walked on water that day. Yeah it's a
good day. No, but yes, Kerry Conon who who? Yeah.

(01:58:08):
I first time she really got on my radar as
a performer was Banshees of Industry, and I loved her
in this and As I said earlier, I found the
relationship between her and and Brad Pitt. I found it
very sweet. It could have easily gone in very predictable ways,
and in fact, I mean, you can see where it's going.
But I appreciated that they tried to give it a

(01:58:30):
certain amount of subtlety, you know, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:58:34):
I agree, there's not like the one scene like in
the old school nineties movie. It would have been like
she rebuffs him once and then he does like the
absolute minimum, and then she's like in bed with him.

Speaker 3 (01:58:46):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:58:46):
But yeah, like they feel like they have a dynamic
in this film. Yeah, and I and and speaking of like,
I really did enjoy this is a long movie, by
the way. I mean it's two and a half hours. Yep,
maybe even slightly longer. I told you, I texted you.
I was shocked to learn that this movie is longer
than Goodfellas, because I think of that as a long

(01:59:07):
movie anyway. But I did appreciate that they showed kind
of what's involved off of the track occasionally, where there's
a lot of simulators and there's I mean so much
just computer and software, and you know, him being like, okay,
you know if we want to get close to this turn,

(01:59:30):
or if we want to figure out how to use
some other guys, you know, whatever drift. If I'm going
to be in his drift, we need to adjust this.
So she goes straight to the computers and then she
designs these just slightly different shaped little pieces to attach
to the car. And I enjoyed seeing that sort of
process part of it also from the team.

Speaker 3 (01:59:50):
Yeah, and again this goes to what we were saying earlier.
I mean, it's like, this is not a world that
I'm intimately familiar with.

Speaker 1 (02:00:00):
Hmm.

Speaker 3 (02:00:00):
But if the movie does its job right, you don't
need to be mm hmm. You know, I think I
think they do a good job of conveying the steaks.

Speaker 1 (02:00:10):
Yep. I I do have something I want to say.
It's not a spoiler. I'm curious if you do you
want to go to spoilers or do you feel like
we you're able.

Speaker 3 (02:00:18):
To kind of I at this point, I don't think
we really need to.

Speaker 1 (02:00:21):
Okay, I'm gonna say one thing. I don't think it's
really a spoiler, Miles spoiler if you want to skip
maybe one minute. But I thought this was kind of funny.
So basically, showing that Sonny Hayes brad Pitt's character is
a man of the people. You know, while you have
Joshua using all the high tech, you know, sorts of
equipment and ways to you know, think fast on his feet,

(02:00:44):
or he's when he's he's jogging, he's on a treadmill
with all these devices hooked up to him. But Sonny Hayes,
you know, he just jogs. He jogs. He puts on
sweatpants and he jogs on every track and he has
the pit crew with him yep. Right, because he's a
man of the people. So I thought it was funny.

Speaker 3 (02:01:00):
He's like, he's like George Bush, you know, josh josh
is like Homer watching George Bush jog by, you know,
with all the that's right.

Speaker 1 (02:01:09):
But what I thought was funny was as Joshua, I mean,
I don't think it's a spoiler to say, but as
he grows a little bit as a person, he goes
to the pit crew and he's like, let's go jogging. Yep,
because now he's gonna be a man of the people
and he's gonna use sort of the old school ways
versus the technology. But my first thought was that poor
pit crew. I'm like, wait, so every time someone has

(02:01:30):
character growth, we have to go jogging. I was like,
you know, you're really imposing this on these people.

Speaker 3 (02:01:39):
That's true. It's like they got they were hired for
their technical proficiency, not there not their physical stamina.

Speaker 2 (02:01:46):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:01:46):
Yeah, and they may have already gone jogging with Sunny
that morning.

Speaker 2 (02:01:48):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:01:49):
That's a good point.

Speaker 1 (02:01:49):
Wait, we have to go again, Like what for you?
Like it is it for your character growth? Ohot, that
was funny.

Speaker 2 (02:01:57):
See.

Speaker 3 (02:01:58):
One way I know that I could never be a
car racer is you have characters in this movie that
are constantly told if you drive one more time, you
might die, yes, and they're like, I this this is
how I have to go. I'd be like nope, I know,

(02:02:18):
like I would be gone before that. If you drive
one more time, you might where are you going? Because
I didn't exactly I'd be walking away.

Speaker 1 (02:02:25):
With my bag.

Speaker 2 (02:02:26):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:02:26):
So that that whole that idea always fascinates me, where
that spirit of competitiveness is such like I have to
die doing this thing that I love and that is
sort of a movie thing. Yeah, but whether it's boxing
or whatever, it's like, well, just don't do it then
you know.

Speaker 1 (02:02:44):
Yes, yeah, I mean we've talked about this with mountain
climbing movies. Also, yes, exactly just doesn't compute for me.
So it's hard for me. I will say, though, I
was this movie didn't trip me up in that way,
whereas like Everest and you know, some of the documentaries
we've watched, I'm like, you're an idiot, Like if you fall,
I'm gonna have a hard time feeling bad for you.

(02:03:05):
You know this, this succeeded in making me want him
to achieve the things he wanted to achieve.

Speaker 3 (02:03:11):
Right, but yes, I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (02:03:14):
In real life if someone was like yeah, I'd be like,
all right, well.

Speaker 3 (02:03:18):
I had a good run and see yea, yeah, let
me know how it goes.

Speaker 1 (02:03:21):
I mean, my bw bus are out of here. I
did like his line though, especially coming out of Brad
Pitt's mouth, his drawl, you know, where they're like, well,
you know this race involves this this amount of money,
or it doesn't involve a lot of money, and his
line is is always it's not about the money.

Speaker 3 (02:03:37):
Yeah. I love that.

Speaker 1 (02:03:39):
I mean that's something you know where you're like it
gives you the tingle. That's a character you like.

Speaker 3 (02:03:45):
Yeah, and and uh, I think I think, given given
the arc the movie gives us for his character, that
that works. I I also, we haven't talked about it
at all, but the way the racing sequences are depicted.

Speaker 1 (02:03:59):
Yeah, I was gonna say, we have to talk about
the visuals. I mean, we talked right past some.

Speaker 3 (02:04:05):
Very expert racing sequences, and apparently, you know, for the
better part of a year and a half, the film
crew was basically embedded with f one across the world. Yeah. Yeah,
it's wild amazing, you know. So they so they were
there with you know, Ferrari and whoever, and and they
just got to know these pit crews and they're you know,

(02:04:25):
and so there is this real, uh, very similitude when
it comes to that.

Speaker 1 (02:04:29):
Yep, yep, yep. I mean, yeah, it gives you the
ability to have these huge you're not having like stock
shots of the crowd, and then you cut to close
ups of our actors pretending like they're a part of that.
I mean, you get these amazing wide shots where they
are involved in the actual energy and action of the

(02:04:50):
real thing. And the movie definitely feels that more alive
because of it. But there's just so many incredible I mean, Kazinskia,
I did note that his movies can feel a little
you know, precision y or something, but like his vision
when it comes to action and all that. I mean,

(02:05:11):
he just knows how to capture like speed and putting
yourself into that speed. And there's there's a moment that
I always loved in the Trailers, and I loved it
again in this where the cars is from the first
race are going and there's fireworks going off in the background. Right,
so you just got this, you know, spectacular flickering fireworks

(02:05:32):
in the background of the as these cars are just
racing down this speedway. It's really thrilling and there's a
lot of really great And then he did this again
in Top Gun Maverick. But the camera is positioned in
such a perfect way where it's clearly trained on Brad
Pitt's face. He's in the car, but we're also seeing

(02:05:53):
what's behind him and around him and the cars that
he's passing. And I couldn't help but think, like, damn, dude,
like that that looks dangerous.

Speaker 3 (02:06:01):
Yeah, Like I was wondering how they did that, you know, yeah, you.

Speaker 1 (02:06:05):
Know, actually I was listening Brad Pitt, who he doesn't
I feel like get interviewed very often, or I don't
hear interviews very often. He was on the Armchair podcast
with Deck Shepherd. Oh yeah, sure, I don't normally listen
to that, but I was just so curious to hear
Brad Pitt.

Speaker 3 (02:06:19):
Just who is this guy? You know?

Speaker 1 (02:06:21):
Anyway, So he was talking about that, and he said
that the film's insurance wouldn't let him go over one
hundred and forty miles per hour. Interesting, So he was
doing this, but they were saying, you can't go above
this speed. But the experts, the car experts on the
film were like, no, just due to the physics and
the way that this works, one hundred and forty is dangerous.

(02:06:44):
He has to go faster, really, and so they had
to negotiate and get him up to at least one
hundred and eighty miles an hour. So he really was
almost going two hundred miles per hour around that thing.

Speaker 3 (02:06:55):
That is nuts.

Speaker 1 (02:06:56):
Yeah, it's pretty wild, but it's you know, the uh
production value of it all. I mean, it just pretty
shows up. It shows up on screen, and that's what
And at the end of the day, that's why we're here.
I mean, I think number one is to see speed
captured in such an exciting way on screen. And then,
like you said, it's it's a bonus that gave us
characters that we enjoyed seeing growing along the way.

Speaker 3 (02:07:20):
Yeah, yeah, I think that what my sense is just
based on the reaction of the audience, this is the
type of movie that audiences will show up for.

Speaker 1 (02:07:37):
I'm very curious. Actually, I haven't seen projections for this.

Speaker 3 (02:07:42):
Well, I can look that up right now.

Speaker 2 (02:07:43):
I do know.

Speaker 1 (02:07:44):
I mean, you know, business c side of it. I
think this costs three hundred million or possibly even more.

Speaker 3 (02:07:50):
This was honestly, honestly, I think they can make that
back worldwide. I think they'll be in good shape. This
is this is a classic crowd pleaser. I think. Well here,
I'm again we're doing some real time. I'm fact checking
as we go. So this is We're recording this Friday morning,
and it has opened to ten million in previews.

Speaker 1 (02:08:10):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (02:08:11):
That is good. Yeah, So let's see. This is on
Deadline arguably the first of its content poll for Apple
original films on big screen. Best did the preview grosses
of such expensive Apple movies as Napoleon, Close to the
Flower Moon Argyle and Fly Me to the Moon. That's
not great company necessarily. Yeah, yeah, so f one also

(02:08:31):
smokes the previews of another car racing movie, the multi
oscar winning, solid grossing Ford for Soa Ferrari, which is
actually a high point for the motorsports genre at the
box office.

Speaker 1 (02:08:41):
That's interesting. Yeah, surprised that you don't see more of
these because I mean fast cars.

Speaker 3 (02:08:46):
Well, because Ford fors Farri did Okay.

Speaker 1 (02:08:48):
Yeah, but I think of that as more of a
human drama than a racing movie.

Speaker 3 (02:08:52):
In sure, but I think the racing sequences are effective.

Speaker 1 (02:08:54):
No, No, for sure, for sure, but like this one,
I think of more of a racing movie than he
can come from the reason I go to see it.

Speaker 3 (02:09:02):
Sure, but Rush, for example, you know that didn't perform
at all.

Speaker 1 (02:09:07):
No, not at all.

Speaker 3 (02:09:08):
And again for anybody listening, by the way, Hans Zimmer
did the scores for both The Rush and this and
and they're both great, very distinctive scores.

Speaker 1 (02:09:18):
But yeah, I wasn't thinking about it. And then at
the end there was some theme playing and I was like, woo,
that sounds like old school Zimmer. Yeah, yeah, like ninety Zimmer.

Speaker 3 (02:09:30):
You can tell when he's into it.

Speaker 1 (02:09:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:09:37):
Is there anything else that we want to say?

Speaker 1 (02:09:40):
No, that's kind of it. I I'm I'm very curious
to see people's reactions to this. Like I called my
parents and I was like, oh, yeah, definite this because
they wait for me to tell them if it's worth
going to the theater. So obviously Mission Impossible is like go,
and they loved it, and I was like this, yeah go.

Speaker 3 (02:09:56):
My prediction word of mouth is going to be very
good on this and it's gonna have long legs. Yeah,
because it's just it's offering something that that there's no
direct competition for throughout the summer. I mean, I mean
we're heading into July and we got we got Jurassic
and Superman and Fantastic Four, so you got all that
stuff covered. This this has kind of a laine all

(02:10:17):
to itself.

Speaker 1 (02:10:17):
You know, Yeah, it does. I mean this is uh,
I've seen it called you know, a dad movie. Definitely is.
But I think it's like if you you could drag
the whole family to this, yes, you know, and I
think everyone will get into it.

Speaker 3 (02:10:31):
Yeah, I fully agree. Yeah. Yeah, so hey, big big
thumbs up for f one from both of us.

Speaker 1 (02:10:36):
Yeah, I'm happy. I mean we've been seeing this, We've
been hearing about it forever. I mean they've been shooting
for years literally, yeah, and seeing the trailer forever, so
it was fun to actually finally see it.

Speaker 3 (02:10:48):
Well, hey, let us know, let us know your thoughts
about about our thoughts on f one. You can email
us at Movie Film podcast at gmail dot com. You
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Speaker 2 (02:11:07):
We do.

Speaker 1 (02:11:08):
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(02:11:29):
random ad breaks popping in, messing up our flow. Zachi.

Speaker 3 (02:11:33):
Yeah. True.

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Speaker 3 (02:11:48):
And if you're looking for me online, you can find
me on social media at Zachie's Corners, the Akis Corner.
You can also read my reviews at the San Francisco
Chronicle and IGN and The Rep. I actually I have
a piece up at right now celebrating thirty years of
Batman Forever, which I had a lot of fun writing.
I think it turned out pretty well.

Speaker 1 (02:12:05):
Yeah, oh, I read it. It's great.

Speaker 3 (02:12:07):
Oh well, thank you very much. And what do you
have out there, Brian?

Speaker 1 (02:12:11):
As always, episodes I've written of Young Jedi Adventures are
available to stream on Disney Plus, and I think it's
worth mentioning for the month of July, our schedule is
going to be shaken up a little bit. I want
to put that on everyone's radar. We're still going to
deliver every week, but typically we tend to drop shows
on Thursdays mostly Fridays, but just due to the upcoming

(02:12:32):
Fourth of July holiday and some travel and things on
our end. Some episodes may drop on a Monday, they
might drop on a Wednesday, they might drop on a Friday.
For the month of July, but they will be dropping,
so I just wanted to give a heads up about that.

Speaker 3 (02:12:47):
That's true. Thank you for doing that, and with that
on behalf of my partner Brian Holl. My name is
Zachi Asn. This has been Moving Film three twenty. We'll
catch you next time. Thanks folks.

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