Ep. 324: Nobody 2

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Speaker 2 (01:04):
Luck I.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Welcome to Movie Film. It's episode three hundred and twenty four,
brought to you by mister Boy Productions. I'm Zachy you son,
I'm here with Brian Hall. Hey.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
How's it going, Zachy? Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Hey, Brian. Before we get into the meat and potatoes
of this discussion, you know, you and I before we
started recording, we were you talking about all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, yeah, as I mean, we always kind of catch
up a little bit beforehand. But as of late, you
and I have been having more and more discussions that
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Yeah, they're pertinent a little bit.

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Yeah, yeah, and I think they're things that people would enjoy.
If you enjoy the show, it's just more of that.

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And so.

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We in the past we've taken some of this stuff
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stuff is dropping over there. And so we thought this week, well,
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Yeah, and so instead of just.

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a month. So wait, you think, Zachy, I.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Think that people should head over to the Patreon page.
Like I said it, or like you said. You said
it right that it'll be for free, said it before,
like in my head, you gave voice to my thoughts.
So check it out over there for free. And if
you want to hear more of that, you know you can.

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You can kick a few coins into the bucket. If not,
it's all good. We're still here. It's all good.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
It's all man, We'll be here.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
We'll always be over here, we hopefully will. So with that,
what have you seen lately, Brian?

Speaker 1 (03:39):
I talk sometimes about out here in Los Angeles during
the summer, the Hollywood Forever Cemetery has these events hosted
by a company called Sinespia where they'll show, you know,
there's a big open lawn and people you can set
up like picnic style blankets, chairs, and they'll project a
movie on to a mausoleum and.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
It's just cool o.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
There's like food carts and photo booths and it's just
just a really fun event. And then you can walk
around and you know, I look at the headstones and
it's kind of nice. I mean, you know, we went
and looked at Tony Scott's headstone and Paul Rubens and
it's sad, but it's also kind of a nice way
to celebrate, you know, some of the people you miss

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and admire, and saw David Lynch's headstone again and it's
just a really unique, cool, special event. And so we
wanted my friends and I we wanted to go again
before the summer season wrapped up and they were showing
Zoolander and we were like, yeah, we like Zoolander. Like
I don't know whether we were passionate about it, but
we're like, but we want to go to the event.

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And it turns out this is one of the bigger
events they've had that I've been there for, which was amazing.
They actually, right before it started, a guy who was
working the event came up to all of us and
gave us earplugs and.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
He's like, you might want these. We're like, what for what?

Speaker 3 (05:02):
And so.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
They basically Ben Stiller came out and introduced the film,
but he was talking like Derek Zulander, which was hilarious.
You know, instead of saying Sinespia, he called it like
Cinecipia or something like that, you know, and oh and
he goes, wow, I can't believe it, you know, after
nine years, Cinepia's you know, celebrating the anniversary of Zulander two.

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And he's like, what, oh, Zoolander one, Oh okay, which
is hilarious. But then uh Tremmel Tillman comes out leading
the USC marching band playing Relax, which is, you know,
a song that's featured in Zuelander, and you know that
is related to Severance because Ben Stiller directed Severance. Tremmel

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Tillman is, you know, one of the main characters and
he leads a marching band in season two, and so
I was just turned into this real, big, fun event
and I.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Mean it made the main dre news.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah. I was seeing it.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah afterwards and it was really cool. They're like, oh, yeah,
I was there for that.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
That was really fun.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
And then you know, we talked about it with the
Naked gun seeing that in theaters recently. But just watching Zoolander,
which is just silly, comedic nonsense, and being amongst a
whole crowd just laughing together. I don't know, it just
felt really special. And there was a friend of mine
who had never seen it before, and it was like

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fun watching her. She kept turning to me and being
like what is happening and like giggling and laughing, and
You're like, yeah, you know, like comedies with a group,
it's really nice. So if you're ever in Los Angeles,
or if you live out here and haven't been, I
highly recommend the Sinespia screenings at Hollywood Forever Cemetery.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
I may have to do that on one of my
trips down there.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Oh man, it's so fun. It's so fun.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Definitely, I have a pops Haul review, but I'm gonna
save that for later.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Oh I know. Yeah, people have been clamoring for that
segment's return.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Yes, people write in and ask and so I when
he he just started casually telling me about a movie,
and I was like, wait a minute, and so I
started writing down some of his thoughts.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
People want the people want to know Dad.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Also, I wanted to check out Highest to Lowest the
new Spike Lee Washington to watch that. Yeah, yeah, and
it's it's a remake of the Corsow movie High and Low,
but it's weird. It's having a very limited theatrical run
basically two weeks, and then it's going to be streaming

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on Apple TV Plus on Semember fifth. But of course,
I mean, if I can, I would like to see
it in theaters. But it was only playing at twelve
noon and ten pm.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
I was like, okay, yeah, So I was like Highest
to Lowest. You might say, bravo, Yeah that's good.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
So I was like, eh, I don't know, So I
didn't do it. I saw Nobody to around eight or something,
and then, to my surprises, I'm walking to my car
there's our friend Bushra just walking you know, through the
parking garage and she's going to see Highest to Lowest
and I was like, you know, I'm awake.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Maybe I can join you. Do you mind if I
join you?

Speaker 1 (08:16):
And so we looked at the app to get me a.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Seat, but it was sold out.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Oh wow.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Essentially there's like a you know, dotted seats on like
the front row. But I was like no, So I
was disappointed, but I am looking forward to checking that
out and probably talking about that in a week or two.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah. Yeah, anytime Spike Lee has a movie out, I
want to see it.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yes, yes, at the very least it'll be interesting, right,
that's right. But I'll talk about this. I saw the
movie Weapons, which came out two weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
I think I'm so mad at myself. I've been trying
desperately to get to the theater to watch this and
so that we could you and I could discuss it together,
but I just ran out a runway this last week.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Man, I'm really sad that you haven't seen it, because
it'll be I'm very excited to talk about it with you.
But I absolutely understand how that goes with life. Like
just sometimes it's just you see it when you see it,
and even you know, we obviously we're on top of
a lot of things because you know, we're trying to
always have a good discussion each week with the show.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
But life, man, life gets busy.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
So next regular show, I will have seen it, so
we will definitely have an in depth discussion for that.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, well, we will have the conversation so people can
hear our thoughts on it and catch up on that
after they see it. But I do want to say
really quickly, well, this is a hard movie to talk
about because it's really all.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
About the mystery. Sure, right, And so I'll read the
mystery of whether.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Julie Garner will sacrifice Earth in service of Galactus.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, oh yeah, she said quite a month and yeah, or
two months, I guess.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
I'll read the IMDb description just to keep it vague
and whatever they want released, But it says when all
but one child from the same class mysteriously vanish on
the same night at exactly the same time, a community
is left questioning who or what is behind their disappearance.
So basically, the movie opens and it's two seventeen AM.

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And suddenly, in the middle of the night in the suburb,
all these kids from this one classroom save for one,
just open their doors, let you go down their stairs,
open the door, and just run into the night and disappear,
and no one knows where they went. And I saw
that trailer and I was like, yes, like this is
like suburban fantasy, you know, is such like our kink,

(10:39):
you know what I mean, Like we like I just
let you know, I mean, going all the et first
movie I see in theaters, it just was I was
hooked ever since, you know, magic in my backyard. And
so what's interesting though, what follows is this Magnolia esque
story where there's multiple characters that you're following, and sometimes

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they intersect and it becomes this big puzzle, and you know,
you're paying attention to different pieces, but they all create
this larger, you know, puzzle that you're looking at. And
in this case, the puzzle is this neighborhood and the
parents inside of it. So the mystery is where did
the kids go? But you're really following the aftermath of

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the adults.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
And.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
It's it's really interesting.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
I mean, it feels like Paul Thomas Anderson meets Stephen
King and it's it's to me. It's as amazing as
that sounds. And it's also worth noting though that this
is technically a horror film, so there are some very
horrifying moments in it, and that's what makes it so
difficult to recommend, because I would say the majority of

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it isn't, but there is. There are enough moments that
are pretty horrifying that I would want to warn people that.
It's like, there are some a handful of gross, gross
moments in this graphic moments, but you can ease. I
turned my head because I just don't like that stuff.
So it was easy for him to go, oh, that's happening,
and then I just kind of like look away. And

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the story itself doesn't hinge on the horror of it.
There just happens to be horror elements within it. But
it is worth noting just so people don't go in
blind and go.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Brian, did you what did you send me to?

Speaker 1 (12:26):
But yeah, it's just a really interesting character study. It's
a really intriguing mystery and I had no idea where
it was going. And it's from Zach Kreger, who did Barbarian,
and previous to that, he was in the comedy troup
Whitest Kids, you know, And this just feels like a
filmmaker who is in command, Like this is a very
cinematic film, but not obnoxiously so it's just someone who

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you're like, Oh, he looks like he's been doing this.
He's already a master at this and telling something. There's
a shot, Oh my god, I can't wait. All right,
I can't wait to talk about this. We will talk
about it.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
We'll talk about it.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
I will say this for the people who've seen it.
There's a shot where Julia Garner goes into a convenience
store and it's following her, like it's in front of
her and just kind of tracking her as she walks
through these aisles. So as she turns from an aisle,
the camera like turns and you you know, you pivot
from what's behind her. But suddenly this person is behind
her kind of aggressively stalking toward her. But as she

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turns an aisle, the camera's following her and you lose
that person. You're like, wait, who's that, you know? And
then then the person will kind of come back into
frames stalking again, and then she'll turn an aisle and
then the camera will follow her.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
And you'll lose that person. You're like, no, wait, look out,
what is that Like?

Speaker 1 (13:41):
It's just it's so one of my favorite shots of
the year, honestly, and I don't mean overhype it.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
That's another thing.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
This movie has been very hyped, and no movie can
live up to hype like that. So just know that
going in, like, you know, no movie can live up
to the hype in your head, So don't go in
expecting something, you know, like and Kane twenty twenty five
or something like that, but.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
It's not the magnificent Amberson's.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, pretty damn close. I mean, I really do think
I feel very lucky that I got to see it
before the hype. A friend of mine had went to
the premiere and opening night he's like, we're going nice,
and so yeah, it's just so incredible to see a
mystery you don't know, you know, you can't figure out,

(14:28):
you're just what's going to happen next, and seeing a
filmmaker who's really exciting and not being flashy and you know, aggressively.
So but like, wow, what a great shot, Like oh,
that really made me feel this thing or setting up this.
I just want to get into details, but I'm not
going to. So I'm just gonna stop right there and
say that if you can stomach this, or if you

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feel like confident in being able to turn away during
certain sorts of things, this is a really really well
done movie. It's very spooky and creepy, and it has
a intriguing mystery, and it's also kind of about something
and I think, uh, that's really gonna be really interesting
to talk about with you also, So I yeah, big

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recommend for weapons, and I can't wait to talk about it.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Okay, let's put a pin in this one, Bateman. Jason
Bateman shout, Let's put a pin in that. Okay, So
we will come back. We will talk about weapons by
Hooker by Crook before before August is out. It tells
you great, that said, Uh, here's something here, here's something

(15:37):
you haven't seen. Brian, Yes, haha. The shoe is on
the other foot now he is. So I saw this
new documentary, you know. I I help out with show
notes for the Mill Valley Film Festival, which which is
coming up I think next month. And so the nice
thing about that is I get to look at some
documentaries and things like that ahead of time, you know,

(15:59):
just so that I can do the thing that goes
in that goes into thing, you know, technical jargon, the
thing that that goes in't the thing. Yeah. So here's
a documentary called Everyone Is Lying to You for Money? Okay,
and this is directed by and featuring Ben McKenzie. Oh okay,

(16:20):
he of he of what you say, look it up.
That's where that's where it started, was the O C.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Uh, of course he started on the OC. He also
played Jim Gordon on Gotham, right right, So he he
is an actor and so uh you know he is
also uh started as a side hustle and sort of
become like a hustle hustle is he's he's like, he's
he's he's a Cassandra preaching against uh you know, the

(16:52):
dangers of h h A crypto. Oh interesting, okay, right,
Like he's the guy up front being like this is
a scam.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Interesting whereas you had not long ago, Matt Damon, Yeah,
for any movie you watched being like crypto everybody.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, yeah, Ben mackenzie was the guy who was the
opposite and and this all started with him like during
the pandemic, he suddenly had a little bit of downtime,
and he's like, what should I do with my money?
I'm hearing stuff about crypto and then he starts digging
and he keeps digging and he's like, there's no there
there interesting okay, And so he's just out there sounding

(17:31):
the alarm hm. And so he actually wrote a book
about this a couple of years ago, I think it
was twenty twenty three called Easy Money, talking about exactly this,
and then he based on that book, he formulated a
documentary where he, I mean, he's talking to crypto like
Sam Bankman Freed, who who has a whole bunch of
egg on his face now after you know FTX collapse

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and everything, and all these people who are basically like
giving away the game that there's just nothing there.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Did he talk to Haktua about her her coin or whatever.
Here's a bitcoin with it?

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, but it's all I mean, that bitcoin is crypto,
right yeah, yeah, yeah, But I mean it's it's a
fascinating documentary and I don't even know if it's gonna
like at this point, I don't know if they've got
an official distributor or anything. I saw it in connection
with the festival. I hope it gets released because I
think people should realize this, Like, you know, I'm not
I'm not saying people cannot make money off crypto. I

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am saying that there's a lot of people who are
being taken advantage of in crypto, right right right, you know,
And so you've got situations where you have like townships
that are putting their their like retirement savings into crypto,
assuming that it's gonna it's it's like putting it in
the market. You know, you've got you know, there's you know,
a father who's like crying because he was hoping to

(18:50):
just put money away so he could you know, have
extra time, you know, to like retire early, and he
lost everything kind of stuff, you know, really awful stories,
and it's like ultimately, you know, it's it's it's the
you know, it's built on this idea of just whoever
is the last person holding the bag is going to

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be the the you know, you're you're that's the goal.
You're just trying to make your money and hand it
off to somebody else. The the burden, you know, and
it is fascinating and I think, I think, and I
think I can speak for you, like, you know, people

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our age a lot of it. It's it's like it's
just hard to understand it. Right.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Well, I'll just say real quick, yeah, I know a
common complaint that I can't speak for every generation, but
I know people our age, we would always lament that
why didn't they teach us more about finances and investing
in school? Yeah, like when they had us and they
were trying to teach us things, you know, life skills,
things that we would carry forward, Like they never really
spent much time those sorts of things, and we had

(20:01):
to find our way. And it's confusing enough, and now
you have these new things introduced that I don't understand
at all. So yeah, I mean I could use a
crash course, so to speak, in what it is, how
it works, why it could be a good thing, why
it could be a bad thing. Like I don't have
any of that in my head, so this would be

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interesting for me to check out.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
It would be and and you know it's part of
that same like, you know what goes into it is
so sort of abstract. You know, we're not thinking about
the environmental impact.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Like the mining yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
I mean, it's just like it's just like with AI, right, yeah, yeah, right,
right right, it's the same. You know, like I had
somebody explain to me with AI and this was like
really crystallize, Like we say, oh my god, it's it's
wasting a lot of water. People don't understand that, right.
Think about with TEDGBT every prompt that you enter, you

(21:03):
are pouring eight glasses of water on the ground. Interesting,
think about that.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
So, now is that have to do with the servers
all in order to do that instantaneous processing?

Speaker 3 (21:16):
These servers are operating at ridiculous temperatures and so they
need to be cooled with fresh water. Well, you know,
we don't have an unlimited supply of fresh water, you know,
And you know you hear that that statistic. That's very sobering.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah, but you know that.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
And I'm finding I don't use it very often just
because I haven't. I don't know, there hadn't been a
lot of opportunities where I felt like I don't know
that I need to or but just because I'm so
used to not using it, I don't think to turn
to it, right, But I'm finding more and more and
more just how people are using it in the most

(21:56):
mundane ways in their life, you know, even just like oh,
I gage door isn't working, and so I went to
chet GPT and like, really, I wouldn't have even thought
of that. Yeah, but it's just kind of fascinating. I mean,
just like lightning fast, how much it's become like a
tool in people's tool belt. And it's it's interesting. And

(22:16):
because then I part I partially feel like, oh maybe
I need to catch up on this a little bit,
so I'm not at least have an understanding of it
or its applications.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Well that's the problem. I mean, it is not going away.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, but I was gonna say, but then, like you say,
it's a little sobering knowing the cost.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah, I mean, look, this is the same conversation we were
having last week. Everybody has welcomed Skynet into their home
and given them a given Skynet a seat at the
table right right, you know, and and and handed over
your checkbook and then like balance my my finances sky
Neet while I watch this sports game. You know. So

(22:55):
we in trouble, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, we talked about it during
the momentary. And this is a little bit old of
a talking point, but I mean, yeah, you my brother
and I were just talking and we said something about
like I don't like barbecue, Like literally didn't type it,
we didn't Google, we didn't go on Yelp looking for
barbecue restaurants. We just said barbecue. And then we opened
our phones and we were getting ads for barbecue restaurants.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
And you're like, oh, it's literally listening, we know this,
and we're like, you know, like we just we shrug,
you know. But to quote Jason Bateman, my Jason Bateman,
I don't love it.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
That that's very good, which is gonna every story we
have will just end it with a Bateman in persone.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
A Bateman esque aside. That's from air. I think, great,
what you did.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
I don't even know.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
I just feel like that's like something he is anywhere
he goes.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
So everyone is lying to you for money, keeping out
for that really really good. And I would also recommend
Ben McKenzie's book Easy Money. It's it's definitely worth read it.
It's it's he's not he's not an alarmist in the
but he is, you know, he lays it out pretty
well about how how it's just a it's kind of

(24:18):
a house of cards, you know.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yeah, yeah, we'll speaking of T two easy money.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
That's right, that's right. Uh, Hey, we got some we
got some letters. Brian Well, I beieve you have been
there for me eighteen thousands all addressed that.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
You've got me.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
All right. So here is a comment that we got
on our speaking of our commentary track for Terminator Genesis.
This is from n C three four eight six on YouTube.
It says, holy smokes, I can't stop laughing thanks to
your slash tricycle slash mri bit. Thank you both for

(25:05):
another amazing commentary. Truly appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
I'm glad my terror could bring you some amusement.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
What was that We were just kind of on our
run of things that we find terrifying, right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
And I was saying my brother and I we were
staying at my grandparents' place, and you know, it's kind
of like an older person feeling room, you know, and
like Doiley's and things like that. And we were in
these twin beds and it was the middle of the night.
My brother was like, what's the most what's the scariest
thing you can imagine happening right now, And I said,
a pilgrim. Woman opens the door holding like an oil

(25:40):
lamp and just shushes me like and then it was like, man,
can you imagine, like what if there was like a
pilgrim just standing at the foot of your bed. And
I was like, stop it, Dan, stop it. You know,
it's just been one of those things. I just I
don't want to encounter a pilgrim.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
And what I had said was it was something a
friend of mine had said to me many moons ago
about what he finds terrifying, and ever since I find
it hilarious and scary at the same time. It's like,
imagine that it's the middle of the night. You're in
your upstairs bedroom, I'll h Homer and Marge, and you
open your windows and you look out to the street

(26:16):
and you see it's the middle of the night, and
you just see a little kid like like five or six,
riding a tricycle, laughing out loud. And I was like,
that is scary.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't like that, especially if you're like,
I've never seen that boy before.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, exactly why is he dressed in clothes from the
nineteen fifties.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Exactly. Yeah, and then and then something something, MRI. You
want to hear about that? You got to listen to
the Terminator Genesis trap.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
But thank you for that. Here's another commentary comment we got,
and this is from Chris Hutton over on Patreon, and
this is in reference to the Naked Gun. Brian, Brian,
you got so close to connecting the dots m oh.
The commentary, Yes, in the Naked Gun, he says that
thirty minute Baseball Highlights show was this Week in Baseball

(27:08):
hosted by the legendary announcer Mel Allen. How about that?

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah, and he would always go this Week in Baseball.
That's how you'd introduced the show. Yeah, I can hear
it now.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Thank you, Chris.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
There you go, So thanks for that. Here's another note
we got Brian from Carlos Wutiras and he emailed us
at movie from podcast at gmail dot com and he says, hey, guys,
love the show. The letter from David Gutiraz in your
Superman episode and his comment about Wang duty remember that

(27:41):
Wang Judy.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yes, Well, David had a friend who worked in VFX,
right who it was their job to with Superman returns right,
like to sort of digitally reduce Brendan Ralt's.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
His wang his wang.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, thank you, Just so it wasn't so prominent or
noticeable throughout the film.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
So we were, you know, quite a.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Job exactly, and he says in my so with reference
to Wang duty, Carlos says, in my head, I said
that would be a great band name. And then Brian
said the exact same thing. Hey, you're welcome, and he says,
Carlos Guterirez parentheses no relation. He then says, ps, I

(28:35):
had a similar experience as David with people checking their
blackberries in the theater. Girl, remember when having a BlackBerry
was like the status symbol.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
I do.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
I never had one, but it was like my bosses
always had them. Yeah whatever, And I know people love
the click clackeediness of the keyboard and yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
And then that movie BlackBerry, right, wasn't it called.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yes Black which I need to watch that.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Oh, it's very good.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
I recommend it to you and anybody I think, you
know in the vein of those social network movies where
it's like a recent history thing. It's really well done.
Acting is great, the story is really compelling, and they
get into that where it's like, Okay, we have this thing,
how do we get people to feel like they need it?
So they start giving it to like they'll go to
tennis courts and start giving it to wealthy people who

(29:27):
they know are like CEOs or bosses because they think
if people see them with it, it's then it's something
they should have.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Right.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
So yeah, anyway, but that's BlackBerry Wang Duty.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
You know, it's funny.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
I forgot to mention this, but Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles,
the nineteen ninety version is back in theaters this week.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah this week, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Fathom Event and I went with I guess I want
out them here. But I went with a friend last
night and it was so much fun. I mean when
I think of that movie, I think of it as
a square basically, you know, watching it on BHS growing up,
So seeing it look beautiful and huge on the big screen,
it was really fun. And I really admired just how

(30:10):
lived in it all looked like they're you know, sewer home.
There's just so much stuff everywhere, like toys and pizza
boxes and whatever. But anyway, in the theater there was
this weird ornate design on the walls, and my friend
was like, does that look like a wang? I was like, Wang, Yeah,
that's that's good. No one says wang anymore, and so Wang, dude,

(30:33):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
That's very funny.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah, that was along road. But I will also say,
just in terms of I.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Should actually just apropos of nothing. But where I'm sitting,
I'm sitting in my in my little recording area in
my cave, and I'm positioned right next to my shelf
of hot toys Batman's and where I'm at right now,
I'm directly looking up at the whang of the Chris O.
Donald as Robin figure.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Oh, I kind of remember this from being in your garage, and.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah, it's it's a disproportionately large wang distractingly so I wonder.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
If O'Donnell got like sign off approval.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
That's what I'm on anyway, So literally I'm you're like Wang,
and then I look up and there's there's there's you know,
Robin's egg staring at me.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
It's like Bart, you.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Know, when he's a little kid and he's got those
little things circling his head and he's picturing that clown bed,
you know, and there's like if you should die for
you it's like you're just trying to do this show
and it's.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Like whang yep, and he look left, don't look left, Zachy.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
I just want to comment real quick on the VFX
artist thing. And I probably told this story, but we've
been doing this a long time. We're doing this sover
like thirteen years now. But I worked on a movie
now you see me. I think it's safe to say,
but there was a guy whose job it solely was
to go through the footage and basically remove pimples and
blemishes from people's faces. So it wasn't like he was

(32:06):
doing you know, explosions and what we typically think of
with VFX. It was sort of cosmetic, you know, a
lot like wang duty. And it's just kind of interesting
to think about all the VFX that's happening that we
don't think about, but there's someone that's their full time job.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah, And I remember having a conversation with somebody in
the industry who talked about, you know, certain action hero
figures who are given a digital like their double chins
are kind of tucked in and things like that. So
you know, yep, there's a lot of lot of digital magic.

(32:43):
We need to give a golf clap to the VFX
artists who are doing doing the Lord's work for.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Sure, and also, I mean just being realistic.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Something to keep in mind when we look at these
people and wonder why we don't look like them, it's
because they don't look like them either.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
So there you go. Look at that. Yeah, and that's
one to grow on?

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Wait, how would Jason Bateman say?

Speaker 3 (33:07):
And that's one to grow on?

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Perfect?

Speaker 3 (33:14):
You know what. I'm sure Jason Bateman did a one
to grow on?

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Oh, I'm certainly when he was on Hogan's Family or something.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yeah, right, yeah, because what's that was NBC, wasn't it right? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Or the more you know, or there.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Was what one to grow on was NBC? Okay, I'm
see this is I mean I need to like, after
we're done recording, I'm gonna I'm gonna have to search
it up.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Yeah. This was more like life lessons, right.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Yeah. So for those of you listening who are like,
what are these two crazy grandpa's talking about? So there
was a thing on Saturday mornings where throughout you know, Saturday. Okay,
so let me rewind further. So they used to think
on Saturday Morning cartoons where each of the three networks. Okay,
let me go back further. There used to be a
time and there was only three networks.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
I'm cutting cable. This is the episode when we completely
go see how I'll lose our minds.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
So on NBC throughout the morning, you know, it was
like a three hour block of shows. They would have
this thing called One to Grow On and it would
be it would be like, yeah, like Brian said, like
life lessons, so you'd have.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
It'd be like bullying or something.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Yeah, exactly, somebody somebody be like, hey, Billy, come play
with me. And then and then Billy's like, no, you
know you're you're short or something like that. And then
and then and then you'd like the camera would pull
back or you'd see like I don't know, Dwight Schultz
from the A Team would be like, Billy shouldn't be
made fun of because he's short or whatever he said,

(34:43):
you know, yeah, and let's see what Let's see the
right way to do this, and they'd go back and
they'd show like the the you know, like a nice ending,
and then we'd come back to to you know, howling
mad Murdoch being like, and that's one to grow on,
you know.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yes, yes, I saw one recently with Michael J.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Fox.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Okay, you know, came across my algorithm or whatever. So yeah,
I had forgotten these existed until I saw that.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah, so clearly they did the job if we internalized
none of the life lessons from these various NBC stars anyway,
So my point is, I'm sure there's one with Jason
Bateman in there, and it's worth digging into. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yeah, and I'm glad you buttoned that up because I
was thinking, wait, how did we get here?

Speaker 2 (35:25):
I couldn't even remember.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
This is a great people. You listen to the show
long enough, you just see us descend into sinility, you know, I.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Know, I hope people are checking with us, but we're.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Just documenting it for future generations.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
At least we're laughing.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Yeah. Well, if you don't laugh, you'll cry. Hey, here's
another note we got, Brian. This is from Mark le Chance. Okay.
He says, I wanted to share a memorable movie experience
that I recently had a few weeks ago. I went
to visit my father in Colorado, who I had not
seen in four years due to some health issues he had.
One day, while trying to figure out something to do,
we agreed to see a movie as we had a
couple of regal passes. After looking at the listings, we

(36:07):
agreed on F one. Even though my father is not
a fan of Brad Pitt, I think this is a
result of me making him sit through Twelve Monkeys in
the theater thirty years ago, which he found perplexing.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
That'll do it, Yeah, exactly, Dad.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Anyway, we both enjoyed the movie and had a nice
chat before the film, during the ads and previews, and
on the drive home, where we discussed various aspects of
the plot. My father is now eighty, so I'm not
sure how much more time I will get to spend
with him, and if this was one of the last
times I get to spend quality time with him, I
consider it a great memory. Also, as someone who has
worked at the Daytona International Speedway for the past several years,

(36:42):
it was really cool to see all the scenes that
were filmed at the twenty twenty four Rolex Race. Another
interesting fact is that the restaurant he was eating at
was known as Poppy's Drive In, and it recently burned down.
And the laundromat who was using is actually in the
same strip Mall and New Smima Beach. Lastly, the radio
station he was listening to, ninety five point seven The

(37:02):
Hog is the local classic rock station that I'm very
familiar with. Thanks for your continued dedication to the show.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Wow. I love knowing all that like that.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
It was so authentic, and so anyone who knows the area,
you know, would be able to appreciate and smile with
all the authenticity captured there with the drive in and
radio stations and stuff.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
That's really cool.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
Well, and that really is like a quintessential father son movie.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
And I was gonna say, and I'm really really happy
that they had that experience together and got to enjoy that.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
That's I love that.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Hopefully they did not watch the four d X version
getting tossed hither and thither.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
My father isn't speaking to me anymore.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
That movie, by the way, has just been playing and playing. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Yeah, it's It's Got legs.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Yeah, it's got wheels When my Wheels. Yeah yeah, it's
back in Imax this week. Oh yeah, Yeah, that's I'm
happy about that because I'm hoping to take my boys
to see it.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Yeah, yeah, that's it's it's funny how important and key
that is, right, getting those premium theaters. Now, I was
reading I don't remember what it was, but two movies
that were big movies that were coming out next year,
and one of them pushed and it was because they
each want you know, that time at Imax and forty
X and all that, because it really does boost their
numbers significantly.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Well, what we're seeing right now is that in the
absence of you know, a real like like, we don't
have that part of theatrical experience where people are like,
let's just go see a movie that's gotten less and less. Yeah,
so there has to be some extra extenuating thing, right,

(38:51):
So such as even though you don't you didn't like
it with this movie forty X or Imax or what
have you, and you can see why that would be
appealing for a movie like this, Oh.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Definitely, you know, yeah, especially when it's filmed with that
in mind.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Right, that's right, Yeah, I mean it it like it did.
Okay domestically, I'm pulling up the numbers now, I mean
one hundred and eighty two million, so no, no slouch,
but you know, I mean against a two hundred and
fifty million dollar budget.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah, I mean, well it's we I mean these are
definitely like post COVID numbers, that's right.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
But with that in mind, I mean it is a success.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
That's well internationally four hundred million, right, so, so almost
six hundred million world box office, and you know it'll
probably it's probably got another thirty forty in the tank,
let's say. Yeah, right, so easily the biggest hit of
Brad Pitt's career. Yeah, yeah, think about that. That's wild, right, right,

(39:48):
And and my point is this is this is an
Apple movie. And you know, this kind of gets to
the conversation we were having, right, like, like, I'm sure
the goal was to uh, you know, put it out
there for a little while and hope that it's a
lost leader to draw attention to the streaming service, right,

(40:09):
but like this is a movie you want to see
in the.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Theater, absolutely, yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
And and so there's value in that. There's a value
in theatrical.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Agreed.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
I mean, and that's I don't understand the math. But
when they say, like when Apple did the Napoleon movie,
the really Scott movie, and it didn't really performed, like well,
that's okay, though it didn't need to that's right, because
it was made for Apple TV.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Plus, I'm like, I don't understand. I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
As long as you're putting in theaters, I mean, why
wouldn't you want.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
To recoup you know whatever you read?

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Right?

Speaker 1 (40:44):
But I mean, you know, Apple's a trillion dollar company.
They know something I don't know. Yeah, So if it's
if it's working for them, great, and if we get
movies like this in theaters first and then it becomes
a valuable asset for them streaming, wonderful.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Yeah, but this is a success all the way around.
So I'm definitely, I mean, I'm looking forward to to
watching it again. It's been long enough now that that, yeah,
I remember the experience was I mean, you saw it twice,
I think, right.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
I did.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Yeah, And this is definitely when I can see like
pulling out every couple of years, you know, like, yeah,
you can watch it with the family. It's just something
fun to watch on your own if you haven't seen
it in a while. It's just one of those kinds
of well, it's like a bro Crimer movie, you know.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
I have to say, overall, in terms of just the
variety of offerings. This summer has been pretty good.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
It has, hasn't it. Yeah, And it's been like a
variety of things. I mean, we did get the superhero stuff,
I mean fantastic for it. Well we can talk about
that it hasn't been performing like they would have hoped.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
But even that, like when all is sudden done, it'll
do okay.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
It'll do okay.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
But I think for Marvel that yeah they were coupling. Yeah,
but I mean Superman and all that. But yeah, you
got your f ones, you got something like weapons, like
it's just all bases have been covered, naked gun and
they've been all pretty good.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Yeah you know.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Yeah, but I want to ask you real quick, do
you ever go out of your way for a premium
format like Imax or is that ever a selling point
for you? Like if there's something like Superman where there's
high anticipation and then it'll be a big spectacle, are
you ever.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Like you know what this one? I think I'm gonna
choose IMAX.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
So for me because I have the AMC A list
which includes every everything, every format, So honestly, the only
metric for me, like if I have the option I
will go to see the Imax version, okay, but I
think for me time the screen, the screening time, yeah,

(42:44):
is more more of a factor than the screen format.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
That totally makes sense, you know.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
So obviously something like F one, I saw it in
the Imax mission Impossible I saw in an Imax. So
I do. I do try to make an effort for that.
But but you know, just given the constry of just
everyday life and this show, it's like, well, I'll, you know,
I'll see it whichever way I can. But you know,
something like Avatar III, yeah, that's gonna have to be

(43:12):
I'm gonna have to do all the bells and whistles
for that, right, you.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Know, Yeah, I'm you know I I I'm always talking
about Legal Unlimited, the subscription, and they do upcharge for
what they do formats, which is kind of a bummer
as much as I love the service. But I think
I don't think about it often because my theater doesn't
have an Imax screen. See, I just I don't think

(43:36):
about it. But it's funny because when my friends and
I saw Superman, we went to an Imax screen and
I remember thinking like, yeah, I don't know, like it's big,
but it just wasn't different enough for me to feel
like it was worth because I was going outside of
my subscription. I was paying like almost thirty dollars I
see this, which is more than I pay a month

(43:57):
for the Regal Unlimited, And so I was like, was
this worth it?

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Was this Imax worth it? And I was like, you know,
I don't know, it wouldn't have felt vastly different I
think from yeah, a regular.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Screen for me, I but if I was going out
of pocket, i'd I'd be a little more circumspect for sure.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Well then I do want to say, though, when I
saw Weapons, you saw that in Imax? Well yeah, this
is kind of a longer story why we saw but
there and I was a little like, oh, guys, it's
like a.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Mile from where we live.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
It's free, like we can is it really going to
be that big a deal? But we went and saw
it at the Chinese Theater, which is a big IMAX screen,
and dude, it was worth every pen really.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Yeah, I don't know what. I don't know if.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
I mean, obviously the theater is beautiful, it's old, it's historic,
it's ornate, but there was just something even you know,
there's a lot of space between the screen and the
seats also interesting, and it just created what I remember
movies feeling like when I was younger, and they were
really special, okay, And it was like cacophonous, like there

(45:00):
was that sort of like slight echo where you're watching
something that's not exactly in your house. You're watching something
big and large, it's like looming over you. And it
really did actually enhance my experience with that and that
I walked out being like, well, okay, that that was
worth it. So speaking at least to the Chinese theater
and their Imax screen, it was pretty amazing.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
So you know, I guess it just depends.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
I guess.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
So geez, well, all the Imax screens have different dimensions, right,
There isn't a universal Imax measure, right right.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
So yeah, well here in the Bay Area we got
a bunch of faux Imax screens, uh limax Like I
didn't make that up, but yeah, yeah, a lot of that.
But like the downtown at the Metreon where you and
I watched Indiana Jones and Dialo Destiny. That's the biggest
screen in the Bay Area.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Oh and that's a good one.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Yeah, you know, so there is definitely an impact, you know,
and you know that's that on that theater I'm in
and I couple years ago we watched Oppenheimer Oh wow, yeah,
all right, and it made a huge difference, right, So
whereas like when you and I the same day we
watched Indie, we watched The Flash and that was on
the Imax screen. But I mean, you know, it's not
like Imax Imax.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
You know, it's funny because I just remember that feeling normal,
and I remember Dial of Destiny feeling huge exactly.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Yeah, you know, so it definitely makes a difference what
you see.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Yeah, well it's nice that there are options depending on
you know, what you want to spend, and if it's
the premium stuff is helping, you know, studios make more
movies than great.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Yeah. Yeah, when we watched Novacane mm hmm, it was
no that was on a regular size screen.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
That that's my memory.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, Flash Flash was on the on
the big one. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, we got some headlines here,
Brian extra scoop. So here here's a passing I wanted
to notice, kind of an important one and relevant to

(47:03):
the things we talk about here. Jim Lovell has passed away.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Yeah, wow, Yeah, astronaut.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Jim Lovell, he of course came to fame for having
led the Apollo thirteen mission, but one of the most
accomplished astronauts in our country's history. I don't know about you,
but when I hear that name, I pictured Tom Hanks.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
Yeah. But he you know, he had a face of
his own, separate from Tom.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
That looks that guy.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
He had his own very impressive list of accomplishments separate,
separate from being played by Tom Hanks. Yeah, he looked
very much like Kevin Costner.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Yeah, I'm looking at younger pictures of him now, right.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
This is and this is something he talked about back
in the day when they were first making the Apollo
thirteen movie, that he he was going to suggest Kevin
Costner to play him. You can easily imagine that, yep, yep.
But also I mean Tom Hanks for going to say, I.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Mean there's a little bit more of an everyman quality.
I think with Hanks that, Yeah, it is nice for
that film.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
So Jim Lovell was ninety seven years old, which means
he was think about this. He was like forty two
when the Apollo thirteen mission happened. Wow. Now here's a
situation where you are in space and your oxygen tank
has exploded and you are stranded and you have to

(48:31):
figure out how to get home. Now, I'm a couple
of years above forty two at this point, and just
the mere thought of that has me shit in my
pants right now as I'm sitting here, And.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
I'm sure everyone in the capsule would not have been
happy about that.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
Not in the least. And so imagine having the fortitude
to be like, this is where we're at. We got
to figure this out. Failure an option, Yeah, yep, you
know a Paul thirteen. Obviously, it's a movie that you
and I have sung the praises of quite extensively. We
recorded a commentary track for it five years ago. But

(49:09):
to me, what it accomplishes so well is really shining
a light on how extraordinary these men were, not merely
the astronauts, but the people on the ground passed with
protecting them. I mean, the best of humanity, the best
of what it means to be, you know, and explore

(49:31):
and everything that America was able to embody at that moment.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
You know, I know, because we talk about in regards
to movies, we like competence porn yep, you know where
we're watching smart people being smart. That is the result
of writers being able to work it out over months
and then they make the movie and we enjoy.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
It because it's clever.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Just that these people had such a short window and
life and only a limited amount of things available to them,
and people you know, lost floating in space and they
were like, nope, we're getting those guys home. And they
put their heads together and they did it. I mean,
it's it's remarkable, it really is.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
And and you know, I think what's what's great. Obviously
the most important thing is they made it home safely.
But you know, he lived long enough to see that
film and to really, you know, fully experience how admired

(50:38):
he was. And I think that's I think that's that's great.
I'm glad he got to have that, you know, you know,
he he lived fifty five years past the Appall thirteen incident.
You know, yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
It is sad though, to watch that film and sort
of realize that, you know, one by one, many of
the people involved are moving on now, you know, uh,
you know, because because at the end of the film,
you know, you have the level character of voice by
Tom Hanks being like, oh, you know, Gene Krantz is
still there and this so and it's like, well you

(51:12):
know that that itself is. You know, the movie is
older now than the Apollo thirteen incident was when the
movie came out. You know, Oh wow, you know, yeah,
so true A true legend, god speaking ninety seven years old.
Jim Loble another passing. I wanted to take note of Brian.

(51:35):
This is a big one. Joe Caroff. Do you know
who Joe Caroff is?

Speaker 2 (51:39):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
He was a graphic designer who worked on movie posters.
So on. On his resume, we have West Side Story.
Remember the logo of West Side Story?

Speaker 2 (51:52):
I am, I've just googled him. Yes, it's the iconic.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
It's it's the bright red background and West Side Story
in big black letters and the fire escape and the
figures everybody there.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
You go, wow, it's a pretty well known logo. So
he did that. A Hard Day's Night, Last Tango in Paris,
Cabaret Manhattan, The Last Temptation of Christ. Pretty big movies
to have on one's filmography, right. However, what he's probably
most known for is a logo that everybody knows. It's
the double O seven zero zero seven pistol logo.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Yeah yeah, wow, right, you talk about creating something that
will live forever.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
I mean I'm just scrolling through Google images and just
seeing it everywhere.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
And I mean, of course I know this right now.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Now. He got paid three hundred dollars to make that logo.
Three hundred dollars, that's it. Wow, no royalties. Oh but
but I love I love what he said about it.

(53:07):
So he was assigned the job at at this is
this is when it was United Artists, and he had
to design a letterhead for the publicity release for Doctor No.
In nineteen sixty two. And this is an interview who
gave in twenty twenty one. His boss said I need
a little decorative thing on top, and he says, I
knew Bond's designation was double O seven And when I

(53:30):
wrote the stem of the seven, I thought that looks
like the handle of a gun. It was very spontaneous,
no effort. It was an instant bit of creativity. And
like I said, three hundred dollars, no residuals and and
no credit.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
That's wild, right, So so.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Kind, kind of like, you know, you have to just
take to take pride in in the work outlasting you.
I mean, I mean he lived to be one hundred
and three. Wow, So think about that. I mean, you know,
the Bond films started sixty plus years ago, and so

(54:15):
that entire time he got to take pride in seeing
it it just live and live and live on.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
That's what I was thinking.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
I mean all the way through where we're at now,
to see that it lived, it endures, and it will
continue to endure.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
That's what a gift like.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
At this point, the even the Broccoli family is no
longer attached right right, right, So when you really think
about it, I don't even know if the gun barrel
scene will make it into the new version of these
movies that comes from MGM, Amazon, MGM. Right, we don't know.

(54:54):
It may not be possible, right, I mean, many of
the Daniel Craig movies didn't have gun barrel, you know,
at least at the start, So anything is fair game.
My point is this, there are two pieces of Bond
ephemera that we know for certain will be attached to
this movie no matter what. And that's Monte Norman's theme

(55:17):
and this logo amazing right, yep, so a quite a
essential contributor to our collective pop culture memories.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Through decades and all the things world history. The face
of Bond has changed, the logo that Joe created has.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Not, yep, and it will live forever.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
Yeah, So Joe Caroff here is to a life that
was expansive and impressive. One and three years old. Another passing.
This is very relevant given the things we talked about here.
Terrence Stamp passed away. Yeah, Terence Stamp a true legend,
if nothing else, because he introduced the phrase Kneil before

(56:06):
Zod into the vernacular, into my vernacular certainly. Yeah, he
was eighty seven. Of course he is, at least for me,
you know. My introduction to him was as General Zod
in Superman from nineteen seventy eight and Superman two from
nineteen eighty one. He also played Chancellor Valorum in The
Phantom Menace. But he had done a whole bunch of

(56:30):
other things. He'd you know, Priscilla, Queen of the Desert.
And he's in a terrific movie which I know, I've
recommended it to a few times, The Limey, directed by
Steven Soderberg.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Yeah, yeah, I know, I know, I haven't sign it.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
I know that's that's something that's been on your list,
and I would say if if ever a time there
was to check it out. Now it is now. Yeah,
just one of those guys, you know, I mean, he
had been in so many different things.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Yeah, I thought you were going to lead with Electra,
but I.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
Honestly forgot he was an electro till you just mentioned it,
so did I. Yeah, yeah, he played stick that's right.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Yeah, Oh yeah, Holy cow. I haven't wanted it since
two thousand and five.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
I mean, honestly, one of the best parts about that
movie was was Terrence Stampon I I you know, I
he had a quote that I'm paraphrasing, but he talks
about how uh He's like, look, you know, there was
some work that I did just just from for the money,
just to pay the rent. But since I was able

(57:30):
to pay the rent, I was going to do a
good job, which I just love it.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Love that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
And you can tell right when you watch you know,
great actors and not so great movies, but they're they're
showing up.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
That's right now.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
They're they're giving it everything, and it's like it doesn't
matter what they're in, you still admire them, you know,
for being professional and letting their gift shine.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Yeah, right, like you paid me for my services, then
I'm going to give you my services. Yep, you know.
And definitely just one of those presences, you know. I
think that that The Phantom Menace is kind of a
great example where he even talked about it, you know, retrospectively.
It was not a particularly fun experience because he was
standing in a blue room staring at a ping pong ball.

(58:16):
He was told was Natalie Portman, you know. And yet
to me that moment in the film when pad May says,
you know, I want to call for a vote of
no confidence and Chancellor of Valorum, and the look on
his face, it's sort of you can feel his his
his heart dropping. I'm like, this is why you hire

(58:39):
Terrence Stamp. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. You know,
George Lucas talked about how that character was meant to
be a good man who was just sort of put
upon by circumstances whatever. And I say, you know, if
not for Terrence Stamp, we wouldn't necessarily even remember Valorum.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
Yeah, I can picture him because it was Terrence Stamp, that's.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
Right, and yeah, just you know, for me, I was
scared to death of him as a kid because I
found General z Odd so scary, right, and and the
beauty of his performances in both of those ones, but
especially the first one. He he his first scene is
him squaring off with Marlon Brando, and it's Terrence Stamp,

(59:24):
who you can't look away from.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Right.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
That tells you something, right, right, right. He was forty
when he did Superman, by the way, Oh wow, and
that's I'm like, man, he was five years younger than me,
I know. But yes, the limey that's your homework, okay, Yeah,
you have a good movie waiting for you. Ye. It's
just a crackerjack little, you know, ninety minute thing that

(59:50):
you're gonna be like. Man, that was that was good.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Okay, bumping into the top of the list.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
Yeah yeah, check that one out. Hey, while we're talking
about Superman, I thought this is the topic that got
a little bit of conversation last week. Superman is still
in theaters. It's still doing okay. However, it is now
in addition to being in theaters, it is also available
for premium purchase and rental on digital platforms, and a
lot of people are having a moment as a result

(01:00:16):
of that. You've got fans of the film who are like,
it's still doing well, why are you put it in
on streaming? And then you have people who are invested
in its failure who are like, see it failed because
it's on streaming right right, right now. I crunched some
numbers here and it seems to me, based on the
number of days that have passed since its theatrical release

(01:00:39):
to its digital arrival, it's about thirty five days, give
or take, which wouldn't you know, is about the same
as Jurassic World Rebirth, interesting, about the same as Minecraft,
so it seems. And there's more, I'm sure, but this
seems like it's just the new normal. Now.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
I was gonna say, this is the new Paradigm, well
pop up in your voodoo and I was like what yeah,
And I googled it out of curiosity and saw that
it was like thirty bucks. Yeah, so when I say
the New Paradigm, it's like, well, this isn't like, oh
now you can just get it for like nineteen dollars,
Like this is like a premium video on demand release, right,

(01:01:19):
So it's like, yeah, we keep it in theaters and
the people who we feel like the majority of people
who wanted to set out to see this have seen it,
and it's made a lot of money for people who
want to continue to see it that way, it's still there.
But there are also the people who are now at
home who may not have been able to make it
out or they want to watch it again and they're
willing to pay just a little bit more to watch
it in this window.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
It's the Patreon of movie releases.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
One might say yeah, sure, yeah, and then eventually it'll
go down to sort of the more normal, you know,
suggested retail price and so.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
Or you watch it on HBO Max or what have you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Yeah, this just this is the new normal for these movies.
But it is it is jarring for something like this big.
I think we sort of associate it because it began
this way with movies that weren't performing right, right, But
I think they're seeing like this is the most lucrative
way to manage these major movies. Now, this is where

(01:02:15):
we're going to make the most amount of money in
these windows.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
This is yeah, so a couple points here. Part of
this is just you and I being our you know,
grumpy grandpa's and we're like back in our day, you
waited ten goddamn years to watch ET on BHS almost
liked it almost, you know, which you know, and again
it's like, sure, Grandma, it's time to go to bed
kind of thing. You know. It's just a different time now, right,

(01:02:42):
And would I prefer to just have an exclusivity window
of like six months, yes, But that's because I love
theatrical and I want theatrical to have primacy. It just
doesn't anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Same and I think I'm similar, but also I want it.
I don't want it to send the wrong idea to
like studios right, to then take to think that the
theatrical isn't valuable anymore, you know, as long as that
doesn't go away, fine, Like I'll go see it in

(01:03:22):
the window that I am able to go see it in,
and then that's great. If this is profitable for you
do this, you know, earlier windows sort of thing. But
I just wouldn't want them to ever think that. Well,
it seems like, you know, people don't really care care
less about the theatrical thing, and then they jump on this,
so maybe we even do kind of what they did
with highest to lowis like, well, it's just I don't know,

(01:03:42):
maybe just put out for two weeks and it becomes
this sort of like, you know, boutique sort of experience.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
I think what the aftermath of the pandemic has shown
is that theatrical is still important, right because people if
a movie goes straight to streaming, people treat it like
it's going gone straight to video, you know. But but
what's happening is I'm just guessing here, right, Like if
you're Warner Brothers and you have spent a ton of

(01:04:08):
money promoting Superman, right, so there's an extensive marketing campaign
that encompasses the first several weeks of release by by
putting the movie on streaming. After whatever, we're at thirty
five days. Like you said earlier, the calculation is, well,
anybody who was like going to seat in the theater
has already seen it at least a few times if

(01:04:30):
they want to, And so we're not cannibalizing that market
where we're now getting the people who who don't like
going to the theater but who really want to see it.
Maybe they got a big family and going to theaters expensive.
But thirty dollars at home isn't And then you're getting

(01:04:50):
the people like me, For example, I saw it already,
but I was like, you know, I kind of want
to watch it again at home. It's another getting. I mean,
I used some some voodoo credit that I had, so
I pay the full thirty. But regardless, like it's people
who've already seen it, right, but think about it. They're
also like, we're still in the midst of the initial

(01:05:12):
marketing campaign. So it's not six months later now we
have to fire up a whole new marketing campaign, right right, right,
And so anyway, my point is like that that's that's
where I'm at, like high level. You know, Minecraft hit
hit digital. I think like forty days after well it

(01:05:33):
it was already a huge hit. It continued to play
in theaters for several more weeks. You know, Jurassic World
is a massive hit, even though it's been on digital
for a couple of weeks. Now, you know, it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Would be interesting and I'm not saying they should do this,
but when we look at the grosses, we're looking at
box office those are really we don't ever really comment
on home video grosses, right because they don't release that
as I don't know, you know, it's not as visible,
but it would be interesting to see if, instead of

(01:06:07):
just looking at box office numbers, if it was just
basically the entire life of the film. We're just seeing,
like Superman, this is what it made box office. But
then once it came out on you know, streaming, we
continue to see.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
We don't just see it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Topped out at three hundred million, like you keep adding,
you keep adding to it and being like, oh damn,
it just made like an extra hundred million.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
You know that is kind of more honest, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
Because then you could understand probably why they're doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
Yeah. So what we're at now is is it's a
it's an environment where thanks to streaming, it's like that
has become the primary means of that's that's become blockbuster
if you will, right, and then physical media is more
than niche thing. So that's why you know the disc

(01:06:59):
is probably going to come out like September, right, and
then you know they'll make it a few extra coins down there.
But but but but ultimately, whether hit or not, it
seems like studios are just moving this direction where you've
got between thirty and forty five days of the theatrical release,
it hits, it hits streaming.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Hey, if it keeps the industry alive, and as long
as theatrical going doesn't become boutique. Yeah, and they shorten
that window.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Because that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Superman is still in theaters right now. So if you
did want to watch it again and you would prefer
to see it on the big screen, you can. I'm
fine with that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
I agree. In terms of box office, I'm just pulling
it up. This is on box office Mojo. It's it's
got three hundred and forty million domestic, two hundred and
fifty international WO so slightly underperforming there, but I would
say overperforming domestically yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
And it's at five hundred and ninety five worldwide right now.
I suspect we got another. It'll probably end up at
like six twenty six thirty something like that. That's a
hit whichever way you slice it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, right.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
So you know, we got them dead enders on the
internet who are like, oh, it made less than Man
of Steel, you know, this sucks or whatever. I'm like, Yeah,
Man of Steel is thirteen years ago, right or twelve
years ago, and the marketplace is very different back then
I mean this, that's that's that's the same as.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
As F one, right, Right, the budget's the.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
Same roughly, and the box office gonna be the same.
Both of them are huge hits.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
Well, I also think it's interesting going back to kind
of what I was saying, like, we didn't used to
when I would read box office, Man, you used to
be printed in the newspaper who knows where, like Joe
Blow or something. Back in the day I was reading
it was only showing domestic.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
So that's that's that's right, that's this weird thing where
where now you got people who clearly just started paying
attention to box office in the last like three weeks. Yeah,
we're like, oh, well, how come you're not talking about internationally?
It didn't used to be like that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
Well yeah, so it's interesting, well because like a movie
would come out and it would make well, Terminator actually,
Terminator Genesis is a good example because it only made
like ninety million or something domestic, but it made way
more money overseas. So when you look at the total.
So now if you go on box office Mojo and
you look at Terminator Genesis, you're going to see the
combined number and get a more realistic idea of you know,

(01:09:21):
whatever studio made that, like what they made in theaters
for that film, and then so that's interesting, and that's
kind of a new Earth thing that's making a bigger
number better. So you would, like I'm saying, you're looking
at Terminator Genesis and thinking, oh, it only made ninety million,
but no, right, it made you know, two hundred or
whatever it was. And now what I'm saying is it

(01:09:42):
would be interesting to see the streaming growth factor added
and being like because then when if we look up
Superman and how much money it's made, we would think
it topped off somewhere around five hundred, six hundred million,
But it's like no, no, no, no, it's like still it's
now it's like six hundred, seven hundred, eight hundred, you know, yeah,
all the lives that it has and of course you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Know, television, airplanes, whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
Yeah, it look twenty years ago Batman Begins made three
hundred and seven less than three hundred and seventy five
million dollars world and that started one of the most
successful trilogies of all time. Right, so you know, people
are kind of ridiculous like that. It's like Man of
Steel was a hit twenty thirteen and Superman is also hit.

(01:10:28):
Our brains should be able to encompass both concepts without
without withering away and dying.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Yeah, and be happy for Superman.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
Be happy, thank you right, be happy for Superman? Y'all? Okay,
sorry you were saying. I didn't mean to cut you off.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
No, no, Well, speaking of Superman still being in theaters,
my parents finally got out to go see it, and
my dad they called as they were leaving the theater,
as they do when they see F one and those
sorts of things. They call me when they leave the
theater to give me their review.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
And it occurred to me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
I was really happy and delighted that they saw it
and that they were telling me about it, and I was.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
Like, wait, this is a Pops Haul review.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
So this is a Pops and Moms Hall review. Long
story short. They really enjoyed it. They had a great time,
and I wondered if it would be I mean, I've
talked about they watch all the Marvel, or they used
to at least watched up to endgame. They watched everything,
and they even did Captain Marvel because the thought would
be homework, you know, for the upcoming Adventures film, and

(01:11:35):
like they were like, oh, yeah, well we got to go.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
See Captain Marvel, so we'll be up to speed for
you know. It is amazing to me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
But I wondered if Superman might be kind of loud
and big and you know, all the monsters and stuff.
But they're like, no, it was a blast. Like they
really loved the take on Superman and how kind and
sweet he was. And they said, oh, they go, we
have one note and they're like.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
We're not.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
I'm so sure about the way they portrayed his Earth
parents and I was like, interesting, I agree, I agree,
and and so I told them my take was I
didn't love their introduction scene.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
You to use your word.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
They went a little too bumpkin, I think, but then
they kind of even out, and I really like the
moment when Superman is laying on the bed and they're
sort of tending to him, and then of course Superman
has that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
Nice talk with his dad that scene on the bench.
Can I tell you I get emotional every time I
watch that scene.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, well and then my mom, well that's
what I was saying. I was like, I didn't love
their intro I think they dialed the needle a little
too far into Bumpkin territory. But every other scene I
thought worked and yeah, my mom started being, oh, yeah,
we do the things he said on the bench.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
We really love that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
And and then I like when Superman really, you know,
looks at the TV realizes he has to go, and
his mom's like, I'll get your boots, you know. And
then I said something about the end. I'm sorry, I'm
getting to spoilers, but it has to do with parents,
I'll just say, and I mentioned that I like that,
and then my dad goes, oh, your mom cried.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
Wow. Really.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
I was like really, She's like, yes, I teared up.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
That's great.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
And I was like, that's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
So they had a great time with it, and I
was really happy that they enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
That makes me happy. You tell them that I am happy,
I will.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
I will.

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
Yeah. That means the movie's working right, And ultimately, what
DC is trying to accomplish here is build up some
good will for whatever they got coming up next, and
I think this checks that box.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
Yeah, I mean across generations.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Look, I mean my daughter who knows that her dad
is a Superman fanatic and she's sort of she's always
been sort of at arms length from Superman. She she's like, Oh,
let's watch it again, you know, And we watched it
this week again. I mean, I've seen this movie four
times now, and and you know, I honestly what I

(01:14:05):
I think one of the things I enjoy most is
how much other people are enjoying it. Hm, you know
what I mean. Yeah, So it's it's it's been nice.
It's been nice to see that makes me happy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
Yeah, And I think it's a perfect lead into the
second season of Peacemaker, with all the cussing and killing
that they no doubt have planned.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Well, and that was what James Gunn said, which I
call bullshit on.

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
I called bullshit on James Gunn saying that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
Well, that his when people asked why, well, because Superman
wasn't supposed to initially come out this early, right like.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
On digital on digital, Yeah, they moved it up by
like a week or sign.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
Yeah, And so his uh excuse, his explanation was that
he wanted everybody so people who could catch it in theaters,
but for the people who are more likely to watch
it at home, he wanted everyone to have the opportunity
to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
It so they would be prepared for Peacemaker, which is
apparently coming out next week.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
I think this week, it starts.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
This week, whatever it is, I don't know. I didn't
watch the first one, but and I may I may not.
I don't know, which is kind of nice. I don't
feel obligated.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
Well, I will say just just as a you know,
as a as a fan of the show, I would say,
watch it because it's good. The first season. I haven't
seen the second one. The first season is good, it
holds up I think, I think, uh, you know it,
it does a lot, right, I suspect you like it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
Okay, okay, I just got it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
Plus we got a featured role for for our boy
Robert Patrick.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
Come on, yeah, that's true. That's true.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
I got to show him some love seeing him. But
you know, I I think that I don't doubt that
like that factors in the release of Peacemaker season two.
But come on, that that that feels like a corporate
decision and gun is just trying to make the best
of it. Sure, sure, you know which that's fine, but
like what you know what I mean, because they're Peacemakers,

(01:16:01):
extremely are rated, right, So like all the families that
watch Superman are gonna be like, all right, now we're
caught up. Now let's watch Peacemakers.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
Season too together around children.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
Yeah exactly. But Hey, I'm glad your folks enjoyed the movie.
And if y'all want to watch it in theaters, it's
still playing and it is worth it, or you can
be like me and just phoning up a little extra
and watching the comfort of your home. I will say,
and I said this to you over text, Brian, there
is a terrific making of documentary that is with the film,

(01:16:34):
and it's it's worth watching. It gets a little deeper.
It's not your usual ePK type stuff. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Have we talked about that clip that you sent me?

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
No, not on the show Viain.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Yeah. I think.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
It's a snippet that I guess is a part of
this making of documentary which i've watched in full, but
I plan to. But it's a real fly on the
wall moment where you see Corn Sweat sort of struggling
with a motivation in a scene and he's talking to
James Gunn and it's very candid, right, like you can
see gun almost like a little frustrated that they're not connecting,

(01:17:10):
and so they talk and it feels a little elevated,
you know, not heated, but just sort of like a
desperation for them to understand one another. And Gun finally
explains the motivation in such a way that Corn Sweat
seems to be like, oh oh, and it's just it's
just one of those things you don't get to see
very often from our set. Usually that stuff's kind of private.

(01:17:32):
And I love when once corn Sweat understands.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
It, he's like, I gotta go, I gotta go, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
It's not like, oh, okay, I get it, thank you,
let's do this again. He's like okay, okay, okay, and
he just like runs away because he's got to do
it now that he's in the moment. And it's just
such a special thing to witness. So it's got me
really excited to watch the rest.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
For first of all, you get such theater kid energy
off David Kornswill, Sure, sure, right, which makes sense because
he's like Julliard. He is a theater kid in fact.
That tracks. But yes, to your point, you know this
is you know, you and I have talked about this
on the show often where you know, a director's job
is not to give line readings, and most actors don't

(01:18:10):
like that. What what actors want is what am I
feeling as I'm reading this line, and then I can
get to it from from a more honest place. And
what that clip illustrates is how sometimes you've got this
this distance between the way the writers, well the writer
and director in this case envisioned it, and how the

(01:18:34):
actor is perceiving it. And in the absence of just
a straight line reading, how do you bridge that chasm? Right?
And and as you said, that's not that's not something
we get a window into Normally, you know, we just
get the finished thing and we either like it or
we don't. But you know, it feels very intimate. It
feels like we're getting we're witnessing something really special in

(01:18:55):
my opinion, you know. And and so that that's I
I like that that the behind the scenes stuff goes
into more of that that that flavor.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Absolutely, yeah, I think it's worth calling out, especially because
recently I was talking about rewatching matchstick Men, and I
had the DVD of it from back in the day,
and I was watching the behind the scenes and I
was amazed just how you know, in depth that got
and it was literally like someone with a camera just
following people around during pre production production. Like I said,

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they showed an argument between the ad and the sound guy,
which I was like, Wow, this is not what I expected.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
But it's.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
Illuminating, like what it's like to make a movie and
it's not just you know, behind the scenes. Then eventually
it seems like they became more like people sitting in
chairs and being like it was a delight working with
the structory, it was a delight working with this actor.
I'm like, well, this isn't I don't need to watch
thirty minutes of this, yeah, right, Like I want to
see how a movie is made. And this reminds me

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of the heyday of behind the scenes bonus features that
we used to get where they would really put us
on set and we would get to see the interactions
and how filmmakers work things out together. So I yeah,
I have a plane ride coming up tomorrow actually, and
I was planning to put it on my iPad.

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
So, well, let me know what you think when you
watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
Hey, so there is a brand new release in theaters.
I thought we might have some time to discuss that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
Yeah, and now we're pleased to bring our feature.

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
And we are back. And you know who else is back? Brian?

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
Who's that? Zechi?

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
Why it's nobody? Oh, nobody, nobody too, not too yes, no, no, no,
this is this is the original by nobody, I mean
hu man Cell, played by the one and only, the
inimitable Bob Odenkirk.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
Very brave of you to say that word off the
cuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
That's a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
I'd have to like think about in my head before
I had the bravery to say it out loud.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
Uh. You know, I'm I'm I'm as much of a
of a ne'er dowell rogue as hutch man Cell himself.
One might say, oh yeah, yeah because of that m
my willingness to pronounce a word without enough right. So
the first Nobody was you know, in the midst of
a pandemic time, as I recall, I think, when did

(01:21:28):
it come out twenty twenty one? Yeah, I'd kind of
forgotten about that, Yeah, because I reviewed it for IGN,
but I reviewed a digital screener link, so that means
they didn't they didn't you know it was it was then? Yeah,
it was it was a March of twenty one that
it came out, so it really was that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Was right when the vaccine was introduced, I think, mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
Yeah. Yeah. So that one cost sixteen million, and it
made fifty seven million, enough to warrant a sequel, and
the sequel cost twenty five million. And it's opened. You know,
I don't know where it'll end up, but I mean
this is where it'll probably land, somewhere close to the

(01:22:08):
first one. I think, when all was a sudden done. Yeah. Yeah,
And I watched this movie, so the first film, I
should say, I can't remember where you landed on it,
but I was thoroughly delighted by it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
Yeah, you know, I enjoyed it, but I was starting
like we were seeing a lot of these John Wicki
style action films. Yeah, and I think the thing that
put it over the edge for me into saying that
I enjoyed it versus keeping it in like, oh, it
just felt like another one of these was having Bob Odenkirk.
I agree, and because he hadn't done anything like this before.

(01:22:43):
He's a comedy guy, well he began as.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
A comedy guy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
But many people might not know this, but he wrote
the Van down by.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
The River Chris Farley sketch.

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
That's right, Yeah, yeah, he wrote.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
That and one of the best most famous esthenal sketches
of all time anyway. So then he surprisingly veered into
drama through Breaking Bad playing Saul Goodman and then of
course Better Call Saul. So then this was yet another
surprise in his career with him as action star, and
he just I just love Bob Odenkirk and I like

(01:23:17):
his energy, I like his folksiness. You know, he's from Naperville, Illinois.

Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
I don't think I knew that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
Yeah, actually I.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
Learned that last night because my friend Chad literally just
out of the blue put Bob Odenkirk is from Naperville,
Illinois exclamation point.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
Wow, that was the text.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
I was like, wow, but yes, he to me is
what makes it not just another one of those right right,
Which is kind of funny, by the way, because it
feels like between this and that movie love Hurts, this
sort of John Wicky adjacent genre thing. Yeah, it's I
gotta admit it's getting a little played out for me.
But I feel like now I'm just kind of showing

(01:23:56):
up to them to support my friends. Between Odenkirk and Kikwan,
which is I was gonna say, I'm sorry, key, I
did not see Love Hurts.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
But okay, but do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
Like it's they're the people that I like and I
want to support are like in these movies now, which
is kind of an interesting thing.

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
Well, this, I mean it really is its own specific genre,
which is older, older guys beating the shit out of
young people.

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
Which, by the way, when we were growing up, there
were the Death Wish movies. Yes, and there was Death
Wish you know, five or something, and I there was
no part of that that appealed to me. I was
never gonna want to see that in theaters. I wouldn't
even watch it if it was on Channel fifty on
a Saturday afternoon. And I wondered, like, for your kids,
is that what this is? Or is there something a

(01:24:44):
bit more appealing to a broader audience about this?

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
I don't even know, Well, I I can only speak
to my kids. So I went with my oldest. Now,
bear in mind, he and I watched Breaking Band together,
so he's already yes, like a like a you know,
he's already on board the Bob Odenkirk train, you know,
and he likes the John Wick movies. Yeah, he liked

(01:25:08):
the first one, and I was like, oh, let's go
watch this, you know, and on our way there, it's
actually very funny. So the premise of the film, for
those who don't know, it's about a guy who who
seems mild mannered, but under the surface he's just a
bubbling cauldron of badassery because he can just walk into
a room and he knows every possible way to inflict

(01:25:29):
harm on you. Yes, you know, so in some respects
it's it's a cathartic type of film.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
Right, Yeah, that's so we're.

Speaker 3 (01:25:39):
Going, We're driving the theater and he and I are talking.
He's like, yeah, you know, I'm kind of in the
mood for this. I was like, yeah, you know, And
I was talking about, oh, you know, this is like
righteous vengeance, and you know, we you and I have
talked about that, right, This idea of you put your
character in a situation where you know, the offense that

(01:26:00):
they endure is so egregious that we as the audience
sort of sign off on whatever they do in response
for that, right, And I use the movie First Blood
as an example. I was like, you know, it's righteous vengeance,
and that's you know, it's cathartic. And so in the film,
without spoiling anything, there's there is a scene involving the

(01:26:21):
the The oden Kirk character and his family are in
like a like a Chuck E Cheese type place and
the people who work in who work there, aren't being
very polite and they're like, get out of here after
some stuff has happened. So the family is wasn't their fault.
It was not their fault. And the one of the
the guys working at this place kind of smacks his daughter.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
In the theater. I made a noise.

Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
I went, oh, like, so this is olden Kirk's audience
as she's walking by him. She hadn't done anything. No,
he just kind of smacks like the back of her head, like.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
A little like thirteen year old girl or something.

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
Yeah exactly, maybe maybe you. And so I lean over
to Hamsah, I'm like, right, chess fan chance was He
like oh yeah right. So at that point you're like,
all right, do what you gotta do, bro, Yeah, yeah,

(01:27:18):
you know. And and so that's that's these movies.

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
Well, speaking of the Catharsis, he walks away he does,
he sees it, and he walks away, which is probably
what would happen in real life, because it's really in
real life, would be better to de escalate something like that,
you know, because you don't know who these people are.

Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
That's the thing, right, which is a recurring theme throughout
de escalate right yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
Yeah, but but but because we're watching a movie and
we want to see what would be the most fun
thing to do in our heads to like make those
people pay, you know, he walks out and then he
has this moment where he's like, hey, honey, I forgot
something or I left my phone inside and you're.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
Like, oh, okay, so it's on. He's got to do
the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
So what is this movie? It's watching Bob Odenkirk do
the thing. Yes, a bunch of times yes. And I
am about that, man. That's what I'm like. This is like,
this is like I said at the start of this,
you know, this will probably tap out at about sixty
million whatever. I'm like, that's about right, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
We need room for this totally totally.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
You know the definition of low risk, low reward. I
know what I want out of this. Just just give
me that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
And it delivers.

Speaker 3 (01:28:31):
Yeah, you know, it's less than ninety minutes, which is
exactly how long it needs to be. Yeah, there's another
I almost we can have. We can. We don't need
to get into spoilers for this discussion, honestly. There's a
scene where where the Odenkirk character, he's he's he's gone

(01:28:51):
to confront the bad guys, right, and he's like, listen,
you know, I'm just gonna walk away, right, and he
sees that these bad guys have have they've kidnapped somebody. Yeah,
and he kind of sees it and and he's like,
but I'm walking away, and we're like, come on, man,
you know, and we watch him he leaves and then

(01:29:12):
he gets to yeah shot uncut shot right. So he
walks out and you're like, okay, come on, he's gonna
walk back. And then he gets in his car like no,
he's gonna get out of the car. His car leaves
the frame and it just hangs there and literally again
I'm like, elbowing comes out. I'm like uh, and then
the car backs into the frame right right right right.

(01:29:33):
I'm like that's what this.

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
Movie is, totally totally Yeah. Then he goes back in
and that's what we wanted.

Speaker 3 (01:29:38):
It's what we it's what we showed up for. And
and so you know, uh, I'm you know, we were
talking at when we first got on, like August is
kind of a dead time, which I agree. But I'm
also like, you know, I I am glad that there
are movies like this in the theaters again, you know,
like I we keep talking about this stuff that's smaller,

(01:30:00):
stuff that is a little more niche Yeah, yeah, variety,
it's variety. But I'll tell you something, you know. I
told Mom and I was like, you should go watch it.
I think you'll enjoy it. Yeah, yeah, because it it
isn't violent, yes it is, yes, but it also has
just enough of a cheek where you kind of you
get the tone like it's it's not expecting you to

(01:30:23):
take it too seriously, right, And it also it sets
the stakes to an extent where you do you this
This does what movies do, right, Like we watch the
you're not watching this movie to come out of theater
being like, man, I can't wait to f up a
whole bunch of people.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
Right, yes, yes, that's important.

Speaker 3 (01:30:44):
Right. You watch Odin Kirk do it for the Catharsis
of seeing him do it right, and then you go, ah, man,
and then you go and you you know, you go
to your regular nine to five and you do your
normal life right right, and you let hutch Man sell
handle the young people.

Speaker 2 (01:31:01):
Well, you know, and then you get this, Oh yeah,
is this what it was like.

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
For our you know, people watching Mattlock when we were
kids in.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
You know what, I don't think so it was andy.

Speaker 3 (01:31:14):
Yeah, that's what we needed instead of the Kathy Bates series.
We needed an ultra violet, violent Mattlock reinvention.

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
Everybody run, it's Mattlock.

Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
He just it's Matlock's son.

Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
His dress shoes, just clacking down this alley with his
casting a shadow.

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
Now, I'm a simple country lawyer who's gonna kick your ass.
You know something else.

Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
By the way, I enjoyed it, but I'm not gonna
say that I loved it either. I do have to
say that, like I, it was kind of going in
one ear and out the other. I I think two
things that made it enough for me were Odin Kurk and.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
The vacation pastiche.

Speaker 1 (01:32:03):
Yes, you know, like the whole theme park thing and that,
you know, we can get into that a little bit
and that made it more than just dude, beats up guys,
you know what I mean. But I also can't say
I just have to add like just I was like, yeah,
I don't know, like I it was fun it was.
I mean, I was like smiling and stuff when I
watched it, but I just kind of walked out and

(01:32:23):
forgot about it immediately. So I'm not saying, like, run
to the theaters personally for me, but like, if this
is like something you're in the mood for, you know,
it's funny too because the first act you might realize
of what I'm about saying. But like the first act
did set up a really interesting character dynamic, which is

(01:32:44):
as a result of his actions in the first film,
he now owes some people a lot of money, and
so he's having to do a ton of jobs to
repay this person, and it's causing a strain between him,
you know, Hutch and his family, between him and his wife,
and he's not showing up to his son's book Connie
Nielson Connie Nielsen, and and so he's like, we need

(01:33:06):
to go on vacation.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
And I was like I like this, yeah, you know, And.

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
There's even a moment where she's suspecting he's him of
something and she like searches his bag and it's not
what she expected and they connect in a way, and
I was like, I love this, Yeah, And I was
kind of hoping that it would feel as fleshed out
just family wise and character wise and whatever throughout, but
it does sort of go into I imagine this was

(01:33:30):
maybe a two hour movie that they were like, can
you get this under ninety You're like, let's just do
the thing, and then you know, kind of wrap it up.
And I wanted to mind because there's a moment in
the middle where they're a little bit at odds, he
and his wife, and she's basically just like, just go
do the thing. She might as well said because that's
what the audience wants, you know, Like I forgive you anyway,

(01:33:51):
and I want to mind it because he even look
at the vacation movies and it's like they really are
just an excuse for a bunch of different set pieces
and vignettes and stuff, but you really do get up
pretty rich thread of the family and what they're experiencing,
the ups and downs, and why they're all united and
connected at the end. And I found myself like wishing
it had even pushed that just a little bit further,

(01:34:13):
because at the end, it just becomes sort of like
just stuff, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:34:18):
See, For for me, I I will say I I
didn't really think about it in that way the way
and I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
I get most people probably aren't.

Speaker 3 (01:34:27):
But honestly, for me, I I found Sharon Stone's character
a little too over the top for me.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
Yeah, you know, yes, that's my final answer. But then
I'm also like maybe that almost helps in a way
because then I'm just like, oh, that's that's what I'm watching, you.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
Know, I get. I mean, honestly, I kind of I
liked Colin Hanks as as the baddie.

Speaker 1 (01:34:53):
Yeah, oh, I was gonna yeah comments on him because yes,
when it's you're talking about righteous vengeance and who is
he up against? I mean like right away when he's
in this town and you know, the sheriff's deputy basically
is like.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
What are you looking at?

Speaker 3 (01:35:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
Like oh no, like right, that's gonna be a problem,
you know. He Wait, what do you think of his
level of baddiness?

Speaker 3 (01:35:17):
Well, I think the fact that he's kind of he's
such a weasel, like you just really want to see
him get his upens right, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
True, You're right, And then Sharon Stone is a little
bit more of that cartoonish like if one up the
entire room.

Speaker 3 (01:35:33):
Just yeah, I felt like she was kind of she
was playing it a little too much to the hilt,
you know. You know that's it sounds weird me saying
like it didn't feel realistic to me. Like what am
I even saying?

Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
Well, it's funny because I mean I'm sort of doing
a version of that too, and so that's what I'm saying,
Like it's really just an excuse for like a really
violent home alone esque third act.

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
Yeah, you know, and whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:35:57):
So if that's what you're setting out to see, like
that's what you're gonna get.

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
And I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (01:36:03):
I'm glad in terms of variety that this is one
of the things out in theaters because there's fun to
be had. But yeah, I couldn't help but feel just
a little bit of longing when it was over, just
like wanting just a touch more to flesh it out
or something to make it feel a little richer and
more of a whole sort of thing versus just like
an excuse for a bunch of john WICKI action, which

(01:36:24):
I have seen a lot of in the past couple
of years. And by the way, Ballerina, which completely flopped
and is like gone from memory, really good. Like in
terms of john Wick action, I recommend that now that
that's streaming, because that is like that this movie has
good fun action and fights and stuff. But I would
especially the home aloneness of the ending is a little

(01:36:46):
more diced up and just sort of like guys like
stepping on the thing and oh oh, and then they
blow up and then this they do round a corner
and then they're stabbed. Like the Ballerina goes way more
into the elaborate setup choreography. Holy crap, how are people
not dead after making this movie kind of thing? Like
I would call that like the A plus john Wick

(01:37:07):
style kind of thing. And this is, like I say,
I think the thing that keeps me from noticing that
it isn't a whole lot really there is Bob Odenkirk right,
and the fun relatable setting of them being at like
some theme park in Wisconsin or something, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:37:24):
I think it just just to add to what you're saying,
I think what Odin Kirk does because it obviously is
the audience surrogate is he evinces just enough reticence hmm
to make us feel okay with everything he does, Like
totally right. He kind of like his shoulders slump and

(01:37:46):
he goes right before he just obliterates.

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
Yeah, he's not licking his lips.

Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
Yeah, exactly. And it's weird how that's so clearly manufactured, right,
It's manufactured to make us feel a certain way. But
I'm like, well, I know what you're doing, so go
ahead and do it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:00):
You know, you know what I also liked, And if
we're not getting spoilers, I won't say specifics, but.

Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
There was a part of me.

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
I'll tell a brief story that happened in my real life.
I was driving my parents were in town. I was
driving them to their hotel and someone opened their door
as I was passing them and bumped my door okay,
And I was like, oh, damn it, like I just
don't want to deal with this. And I was talking
with them, and it wasn't a big enough deal to

(01:38:28):
like swap insurance, you know, and.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
Get a new door buffet out. It's just like a
little thing and it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:38:35):
But they kind of sucked, you know what I mean,
And like they weren't they weren't very apologetic, like one
of them kind of was, and one of them was like, well,
you got another scrape over here, and I was like, excuse.

Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
Me, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:38:50):
And so then it's like kind of you think of
this movie, you know, where it's like you get to
sort of live through the like, you know what it
would have been fun is bashing that guy's head onto
my car, you know, I mean, like, oh, you wanted to.

Speaker 2 (01:38:59):
Take a closer to look at that scrape. Here you go,
here you go, here you go.

Speaker 1 (01:39:03):
You know, but at the end of the day, that's
not good, right, And so what I appreciated was in
this movie you get the Colin Hanks character who just
out and out sucks. So it's fun to watch him
get pushed back against. But what I do like is
that he doesn't just you know, beat up everybody. Like

(01:39:24):
there's some people where it's like, maybe we can understand
each other a little bit better, like we got off
on the wrong foot. Maybe if we understand one another
and where each other's coming from, we might have more
in common than we think, right, And so you know,
what I'm saying, Like, I like that not it wasn't
just an excuse to just beat up everybody who butts
up against you in that he encounters right, like, he

(01:39:45):
does actually develop a relationship with some people in this
movie that they had a misunderstanding at first, and I
was kind of glad that that was in there. So
it wasn't just right. It feels slightly more responsible in
a way.

Speaker 3 (01:39:57):
Yeah, I actually really appreciated that, you know. I also,
I will say Colin Hanks at this point looks enough
like his dad that it is it is a little
bit like like seeing evil Tom Hanks.

Speaker 1 (01:40:11):
Yes, it was like a mull or not a mullet.
What do you call like the shave sides.

Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
Yeah, yeah, it's like Tom Hanks circa you know, money pit,
you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, uh yeah. So you know
what My my final takeaway for this movie is is
I I felt very similar to after we watched novakan
mm hmm, yeah, where you know, I think that movie

(01:40:36):
largely works on the charm of its lead. Totally totally right,
and obviously they're coming at it from two different directions
because he's sort of hapless and that's kind of that's
the the appeal. But regardless, they're both unwilling just you know,
ass kickers, and.

Speaker 1 (01:40:54):
That's kind of what you have to do now, right,
Like you can't just make ass kicking movies, Like what's
the what's the spin on this? It's like, oh, well,
you know Jack Quaid, it's like kind of a nice guy,
you know, and like he just happens to have this
the hook, you know, being that he can't get injured.
So it's like, well, what would that be like in
an action film or a John Wick film, you know?

(01:41:14):
In this, like what if it was a dad in
a John Wick film and he's on vacation.

Speaker 2 (01:41:19):
So that's that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:41:21):
I think that's going to get you to go, oh well,
that's why I haven't seen this before.

Speaker 3 (01:41:25):
Right, yeah, look, I mean it's the same appeal that
Denzel's Equalizer movies have, or you know, even the Taken
Pictures that Leam Neeson was in. Right, it's kind of
it's it's don't poke the guy who's got the skill
set that you know that can just demolish you. Right,

(01:41:46):
It's always that sense of because Equalizer movies work on
the same level.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
I haven't seen those actually, so there.

Speaker 3 (01:41:53):
Is a scene in the second Equalizer movie. It's not
a movie I particularly like, but I did like this
scene where you've got a bunch of like corporate dude bros.
Who have you know gotten this? I think she's a
sex worker. They got her drunk, and they really just
treated her very badly. So so so Denzel Washington's character

(01:42:14):
is the uber driver who they call to take her home,
and they just shove her in the back and he
sees through his rear view like how they've treated her. Right,
it's the kind of the same thing. He pulls away
and then he stops and he goes back, and then
he goes up to their apartment and he's like, hey,
the credit card didn't go through or something like that,
and he goes into the room and you just see

(01:42:35):
him scoping it out, and you're like, okay, here we go,
and you know what do you You just want to
see Denzel uncork some righteous vengeance on these guys, right,
And so it's like, well, that's that's that's the itch
these types of movies scratch. And I think there is
a place for that, you know, I mean clearly, because

(01:42:58):
all three of them equalize their movie has done pretty well.
I think they're doing a fourth one. Wow. You know
some people just like that. So I think I filed
this in under that same same niche. It rises or
falls based on the lead. I love Denzel, love Bob Odenkirk.
You know, even the take in movies which got worse.
But I mean they they float on Liam Neeson's relatability,

(01:43:21):
you know, likability yep, so you know, low risk, low reward.

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
Yeah, that's kind of where I like.

Speaker 1 (01:43:27):
I don't think this rises up to anything where I
would give like a broad recommend to it. But if
this is your flavor, or you're in the mood for
something like this, like I think it scratches an itch.

Speaker 3 (01:43:37):
I And one last thing I'll say is I don't
I don't need a third one of these. I sure, right,
but I'll be honest, if they make one, I'll probably
watch it same.

Speaker 2 (01:43:47):
Of course, I got to show it for my friend,
that's right, man.

Speaker 3 (01:43:54):
Yeah, okay, well there we go. Yeah, anything you.

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
Missed, no, that's about it.

Speaker 3 (01:44:00):
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Speaker 1 (01:45:12):
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