August 29, 2025 • 43 mins
Andy Muir talks to Jamie King, Ben Dooley, Nigel Woodhead, Isla Pringle and Kylie Fisken.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Last night. I how the strangers d A very good morning,
and welcome to the Best of the Muster, brought to
you by Marco Fertiliza. My name's Andy Miller. Appreciate your company.
The Best of the Muster is a collaboration of interviews
that took our attention during a busy week here at
Hokanui HQ. And we start off Andandy Dennis farming in
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the south proclaimed gold Coast of the South, which is
Manapori Keki, just goes over a few things, how things
are going in the lead into lambing, they probably need
a bit more tuck her up there on the basin.
Mark Dylan Plowman extraordinary. He joins us from the Czech
Republic where he's at yet another World Chams. He's over
there next year as well, and tells us about what
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it's like for the logistics with a tractor on the
other side of the world. Matt Warb was on the program.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I had the fortune to catch up with Matt last
week at the Beef and Lamb event here in Gore,
and he's a young guy really who has really switched
on with a lot of passion regarding the rural industry.
And I just thought a messaging was really on point
as well. Regarding the sector, Peter Allen talks Venison of
course farming at Glenure near Belfa. Been involved in the
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industry for a very long time, and Pete thinks there's
a lot of good things to celebrate at the moment,
especially when you look at contracts for Venison on the likes.
So boy, he's good to catch up with Pete and
Matt Taylor. He farms up not far out of Garston
at Lawn Peak, and he talks about AI on the
farm and what it means looking into the future. And
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you think about artificial intelligence and the way that it's
going to be used in the day to day operations,
especially in a rural sense. It's interesting, to say the least.
So we'll start the yell and ol with Andy Dennis.
Thanks to Marco Fertilizer. This is the best of the muster.
I have a red boye on mother next.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Just let it slide it on.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Ah wait, I like Heroko this afternoon on the muster.
Jamie King farms over that way and joins us in
the Sergeant Dan farming around up. Thanks for Sergeant Dan
stock foods here in Gore, who coincidentally weld under all
that smell of Musually about eight thirty this morning was
pretty daper down the main street of Gore. Jamie, good afternoon,
you know, mate.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
That's a heck of a turn to get going and
get you go from Monday, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
One bird and one Scotch, one beard all eight minutes
thirty and it's glory. Now. When I was at Radio Score,
there was one song we played when we were doing
a show if you need to do a pit stop,
It was called never Ever by the Old Saints. We
went for seven and a half minutes. He had time
to do your business and get back there, and it
wasn't dead there.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Perfect the internet out season with a book, mate.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I'll just leave the song going for a bit because
it does creak and eventually, look, how's everything over your
neck of the woods. You're getting through pretty well?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah, I'm pretty good, mate.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
We're gonna beautiful Dagga today. So it looks like a
bit but we'll clear out to the east from in here.
But now I can't complain any so I'd say super dry.
Considering well we end up we've got forty or fifty
mil there that last belt, but it's also disappeared pretty quick.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
But I had a bit of.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
A tricker on South London said they with her indoors,
the boss Lady, and yeah, it came home feeling pretty good.
I've never even got a knuck grass indy, but we're
going looking pretty pretty good. Got five hundred he pres
of self anemonia and some trace elements on the last
week with had about three eighty of it was with
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the bulky, which is pretty much unheard of. And I
can't even see where the bulky has been, so that's
an indication son, pretty good.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Can't compind the moment, would you say your watered table's
back and where it's been compared to have the years
at this time A.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Huge mate hugely so yes, yeah, definitely it's definitely definitely
well down. So his room probably come up web But
on that note, you'd be careful what you wish for.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Eh, pretty much the song is still going where we're
up to. I was going to crank in there's still five,
but it's twenty five to go on. It's a it's
a rougher javy, but yeah it is. It's arguably been
one of those winters the end of winter. What are
we now about? The twenty fifth of August? Another six
seven days and we're into a new into a new
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season officially, that's.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Right, Yeah, it's it's it's just unkenny and we've had
winter Andy, it's been it's been cold, it's been frost lot,
we've a grass gras has good stop when it's only
just kicking around there. But we you know, saw tem
was pretty just not too far away, and I think
that's due to the lack of moisture in the soil.
That always helps. So yeah, we'll just wait and see.
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Just on everyone, all the all the negative people out
they keep on that spring with head last time and
now it can't happen twice in one Usually.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
It's all of our perspective in the season though.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
One hundred percent. So no, we'll just make it.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Up as we go.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
We're crank a good now, Jamie.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
It's a long song. Gotta be a great song in
the worldsheed on. Imagine around the milking parlor when you've
got time to kill. Hey, am the Alliance group with
this proposed restructure featuring Dawn Meats, you supply Alliance, what
are your thoughts around it because interesting an article from
the Irish Perspective. I'll tell you about that shortly. But
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what do you make of it, Jamie?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Well, yeah, mate, at the end of the day, what
other options have we got? Im we entrust the pairs
to be up there, doesn't it to act appropriately obviously
as handful them haven't done or zero accountability and that's
what's led us down this strap. You know that famously
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one of the thelemes that history never repeats. But I'm
sure sil firms went through this, you know what twenty
sixteen or fifteen Again, I don't know, mate, I've got
two different ways to look at it. Obviously that are
trying to secure a protein source or feed source, and
you look at some numbers teams, it might be quite
good for us for a couple of years. Long term,
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I don't know, We're seems to losing control of their product,
but it's probably hard to do because we're in the
middle of our way. I'd still a lot to say
the remixed do get together in this country, mate, and
join forces and get bigger. But look at the frontier
model and something like that. Right then, I have to
tell you how to look at it. You know, they
are pretty successful in New Zealand based company. But as
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far as we're concerned that Pa, you know, they glass
are sort of off right now and it's just yeah,
let's keep going and fox on.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Do you think the horse has bolted as far as
that mega amalgamation which kind of occurred.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Sat ago, Yeah, big time mate. You know, they're still
going to probably over capitalization and still friends of books
aren't too probably shit hot tell these guys, well, that's
an interesting one of the diversifications, probably working really well
for them. But yeah, yeah, the horse pot and there's
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Tony Ego is probably amy, you know, and there's a
few of them have been suffer around hopefully working for
allowance to fall completely units on its head. But yeah,
we're at the stage there, so we'll just wait and
see you going forward.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Irish farmers don't sound too chuffed about this supposed agreement
that's in the making as well, because what's an article
here from the Irish Scribes The deal raises red flags
for Irish sheep farmers that creates a real risk of
bore New Zealand lay William up in supermarket shelves in
the EU and the UK. Underminding demand for Irish lam
and ultimately hitting farmers here in the pocket, stressing that
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low income Irish sheep farmers can't afford to be squeezed further.
So it's another reesting way to look at it too rightly.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
So I'll be I'll be I'll be probably pretty brassed
off and in order if I was over the same thing,
you know. Yeah, you know, if someone came into this
country and doing the same thing and contrasting schemes. I
suppose they've got a population when we haven't. On that night,
the environment management systems are a lot more intensive and
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they've got a lot more It's probably a lot more
expensive to raise a laim over there currently the New Zealand.
But I mean, yeah, population's going and corporates take hold,
I suppose, don't they. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I think it's all about a year round supply over
on that side of the world. That's half the appeal.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, And I suppose that makes sense for in the
southern hemosphere, doesn't it.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
You know?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
In the sorry is it just coming out of summer,
aren't they? So? Yeah? But it might be really really good,
But nothing's ever fear, is it? So?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
So when it comes to these meetings, uriculous the case
of having to vote years because the other one isn't
worth thinking about.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
Ah, yeah, we'll reevaluate the road shows, try and give
a couple of direct there's not a wind up because
I've just there's a couple still floating around there that
are probably part of the reason has been zero accountability
from some of.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Them, which really really frustrates me. You know, if you're
gonna put your hand up and do the role, do
it properly. So yeah, I know I've got a fair
idea which way will go, but otherwise what is the option?
But on that note, we're pretty loyal people here, and
I suppose it's a breath of fresh art toil. It
give us opportunities to hunt around and hecking. He wouldn't
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it be nice if we could just tender our livestock,
you know, and we forgot procurement wars. That'll be interesting,
wouldn't it.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, it's going to be a supply and demand you
to get us. Suppose because you look at these numbers.
We had the figure that came out in November December
last year, and that was obviously due to the spring.
But then we think about the decline and red meat
Judah numbers just disappearing and being replaced by plants or trees.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
That's right, and we've probably have enough trees to be fair.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
You can't eat trees.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
You can't.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
You can try, but it would be weird.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
You'd say, so geez seen, and so it might be
good yeah, short term. I think it's going to be
a good, good thing long term or don't. Yeah, I
don't know.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
We're just here.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
We'll see you see what appends out. I'd love a
crystal ball endy, but I don't even in this kiss.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Good on you, Jamie. We'll let you carry on a noliyse.
Appreciate your time.
Speaker 8 (10:33):
Hey everyone, I want seven mile barbed wire.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I got a snipe, Ben do we farms? Just out
of window? Sheep Beef and as well. He as a
YouTube channel called Deep South of Sheep and Beef. Enjoys
us being good afternoon? How are you?
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Oh, not too bad into yourself?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
An afternoon like this is pretty pleasant for the end
of August.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
Pretty bloody good. Just going around early lemmas now and yeah,
they're obviously enjoying the weather because they're not doing a
whole lot of bloody lambing waiting on the weather will
arrive at the end of the week. But that's that's
what it is. I suppose to that.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
When were they supposed to start.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Twenty third of August, So they're only in their third
day now. But yeah, there's not much happening, But that's
all right, I'll get there.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Days like this are just lounging out, showing their cads
quite happy about things. I'd imagine.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Yeah, I just wouldn't mind if they started pushing a
few lambs out. That was all in this nice sunny
great to be born as a lamb weather.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Then we talk about technology on farming, the way things advance.
You just had the conveyor in this morning. This is
one of the things that has been implemented into a
farming system for a lot of people. You see more
positives and negatives around it.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Oh, it is just magic. This is only the second
year we've been doing it, and oh, it's just easier
on everyone. It's easy on us. We put seventeen hundred
US and six hundred and thirty hoggits through it. Two
jebs for the US, one jeb one drinch for the hoggits.
And it took less than three hours this morning. We
used to do it all in the in the yards
in the race, and would do it in say four days.
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So the US are in the in the in the
yards too long because they do they don't like being
stood off feet for six or seven hours. Yeah, he
used to break their backs doing it. Sort of wasn't
that great for the US either, squeezing them up in
a race. And yeah, you take that technology on cost
a little bit of money, it's not even that expensive
and makes everyone's life a whole lot easier.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Well, that's the thing that's over and done with in
the blink of an eye. Whereas if you're doing it yourself,
and this costs come into it. But if you can
do it that way, it just freeze up time.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Absolutely, and even things like misshots, like when they're in
the conveyor, it's a lot easier not to do that
and make sure all the drench goes in the mouth
properly and everything, as opposed to wrestling with them in
a race. And I mean these things aren't like a
lot of those twin US with the lambs and them
are probably eighty five ninety kilos. So yeah, just just
works out better it doesn't and banter.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
You get bent when you've got people working in the
mode like that too, it's good.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Yeah, that's good. Quite a good crew that come and
do it too, so that she's bloody good.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
You want to talk about white muscle issues today, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
I think so. We've had a few hogits just yeah talking,
a few mates are in the place and then people
you know that that well, not directly to events, but yeah,
a lot of people were saying, it's probably what muscle
what you've got. So we just when we put them
over the convey we just gave them a selling eye
five and one will be twelve. So hopefully that's enough
to pick them up and solve that issue. But not
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something we've seen for a long time. I don't actually
remember seeing it all in my life, but yeah, just
they sort of go down on one side and they
can't get up there. They've got the energy, but they
just they can't get the balance there. The leagues aren't working.
So yeah, it was a new one for us to
see and hopefully we'll fix that up now. But something
to keep it on, I guess, especially if you've got
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hoggits on swedes for a long amount of time.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Soele any of deficiency has been a problem, well.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Not historically, although the last few years I had neglected
to put on the old Selenium privls away bit between
not putting for it on at all and then last
year ordering it, putting it on and then gone and
you I forgot something. But yeah, they do get a
reasonable amount of supplementation, and like the mixtage using the
twotis the whole way through and having that loose like
salt which they seem to absolutely wolf down, which I
love it they do, and the sult their bias that
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salt looks as well. But yeah, so they should be fine.
So maybe next year we give it to the Hoggits
as well. Just not something I really thought was necessary,
but yeah, not saving a few more Hoggits next year.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
How many Hoggits do you reckon You're lost?
Speaker 5 (14:38):
It's about six or seven, I think I'm just trying
to think. Yeah, I think it is seven now year.
So well, a bit frustrating, but just one of those
things that catches.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yet sometimes you also want to talk about the feeding
and triplets. Great Butcher on the show last week saying
that triplets are a different kettle the fisher when it
comes to feeding and also talking about perhaps doing some
trials with triplets being mixed in with singles. Have you
got some thoughts around us?
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Yeah, I completely agree with them. Like there's triplets are
a massive pain, they're also a massive potential opportunity if
we can find a system that works better in their favor,
because we've got them and they don't seem to be
going anywhere in a hurry. If the olgu guys could
tell us that they could promise us no more triplets,
I think, or just a bit a vote for it
in the heartbeat, but they can't. So yeah, No, I
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completely agree with what Graham is saying. You do have
to feed them a whole lot better. And what we've
found is we get them out of scanning time and
we feed them pretty well from then on, and we
try to make them eat. Pattis down pretty hard through
July and in the early August. But but you know,
giving them good feed, big breaks, just just sort of
making sure they get that little bit of feed pressure
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at the end of every break because otherwise when you
move them on they do get groggy. But do that
in some sort of them at August and then a
couple of breaks of leaving a fair bit behind, and
then we get them in quite early to do their prelam,
like a good five weeks before four or five weeks
before their land. Get that out of the road, and
that just seems to alleviate any milk fever issues that
we used to see a lot of trying to do it.
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So the twentieth twenty fifth of August, do that and
get them spread out and some good feed, and then
drive around and pick up the casts every day. But yeah, no,
I just just sort of wanted to touch on that.
The one thing you said that sort of did consider
me a'll weave it because we used to do it
was feeding a sheet nuts. I do think they're a
good thing, and they certainly have their place, but that
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can definitely be overdone because we used to feed them
just add lib from scanning on we used to feed
them sheet nuts. Think we're doing the right thing, and
then we just lost sheep hand over foot were just
they were just too big and they just couldn't handle
it and had bearings everywhere. And yes, I guess we've
been a cavet with that. They do need to be
feed very well, but you can go overboard.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
With it just supplements them in the right situation.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Though, yeah, absolutely, Like, probably don't do three hundred grams
a sheet, not today every day from scanning would be
a good idea because that's just a bit much fun.
But yeah, like I say, the cheatnuts are a great thing,
and they also you can get the high mineral ones
high ignesium. I think it is that keep just give
them that extra wed boost the whole way along too.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
So yeah, are they plovers in the background.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Yes, I've got plovers, I've got oyster catchers, I've got
pied stilts. I think I've got some we turns buzzing
around somewhere. They're just going nuts. As actually saw plover
chicks the other day.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
The bird life at this time of year is spectacular
and of nothing else. You know that you go through
the changing of the seasons.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Yeah, yeah, well, of course a crop pettics. It's a
mess of plain in the ass because I refuse to
run them all over apart from maybe the plovers, so
I wind up with big Missus all over the paddock.
But yeah, they are apart from the plovers. They are
all made a wildlife, aren't they. So it's cool to
see them around, and they really seem to like nesting
in that dirt for some reason.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Just quickly to wrap up a lion straat with dawn meats.
What are your thoughts on at Dells.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Yeah, look, it's it's a real hard one. I don't
think it's a particularly great deal, but I don't think
turning the deal down is a good idea either. I've
got some views long term for the industry that we
won't get into today. Hopefully a later date there's a
bit more well, we know a bit more about what's
going on, and we were able to talk about that.
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But I kind of feel like it's just a thing
we should take. We've got an option to get out
or get out of jail card here. I suppose you'd say,
if we don't take it, we're going to lose plants,
and people say we need to do that, and there
is some truth in that, but I just don't know
if losing that great, big plant at Lawnville is the
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way to go. Alliance still kills something like forty of
the sheep killed in the South Island, and I just
remember hearing stories from the previous generation here back in
the day it's when full Text went broken and space
was really tight, and you'd see a stock truck go
down the road and you'd be on the phone to
your agent, who'd you give bloody space? Yeah, I think
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we take this deal and then we need to talk
about what we do with air industry because it is
an industry wide problem. Alliance is the one that has
the most problems, but none of the companies are doing
particularly well, and we look at what's happening with Frontier.
We can't go to that model exactly, but something's got
to change, and I think if we do this, we
can then start moving towards or at least start having
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the conversation about what we think that should look like.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
And interesting thoughts being well. Have to follow us up
in a couple of weeks. Always good to catch up
on Nigel what he had fans in South of Tago
between Bear clother and Milton and joins us good aid
nightge hells things.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Yeah, things are pretty good today, Simers.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Shrine it a little bit cooler hearing go first thing
that's blue sky now and that's pretty much the perfect
deal to August.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Yeah that things things are taken along pretty well actually,
although I'm not. I'm not not on farmers we speak
of just sitting on the main drag and Milton actually
giving Lee in giving Lee any hand to do some
sign riding on the book and milk them. They're doing
a rebrand, So I'm playing sign rider today.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
No, you're a man of many talents, not to be underestimated.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Yeah, yeah, Well when when Leanne used to do, he
been wedding stalling and all that sort of bits and
pieces of the farmer during the week and and wedding
stallists and knocking around at weddings during the during the
weekend sometimes in the summer as well. So it's good
and it's quite like I actually quite enjoy it's something
different to farming, and you know, it's a good week
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business for the end. She takes away and does it
and gives me something else to do when when she's
got jobs on, I can give her a head. That's
quite good.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
So how's your grass looking for the end of the month.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
We're looking really good.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Actually, yeah, yep, we.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Things I couldn't tell you whatever cover is, but yeah,
we're looking looking really good. We've got plenty of attacker
around they I always reacon sometime in August, your pinnick
about how are you going to get through the seat
of stock, And he's always a period of time where
you say, oh, I don't even have to feed, and
I'm going to have to break all the rules and
do this and do that. You know, this year, we've
sort of always been able to see a path in
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front of us. You know, even though the feed budget
says we're good, you always panic a webit. But this year,
you know, you could see the feed in front. I
knew where things were going to go and what was
going to happen for the next few weeks. We'll sit stocking.
So that's a good sign. That means we're Yeah, so
they've got one to got the autumn management right and
got window management right, and us are looking really good.
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Singles or head through the yards this afternoon and get
their prelam animal health and get drafted into their seat
stocking lines and then go back here and we'll set
stock and probably another week ten days time here.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Farmers are always fussy about their covers though.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Oh yeah, it's one of those things fishally this time
of year, you can well, I was going to say,
you can never have too much grass, you sort of
can a web it like you. You want to have
plenty of feed landing onto really good covers so that
you know those lambs get up and away they'll a
good start. But same time as you have too much feed. Yeah,
and then and then you get into September and it
warms up and grass really takes off or we never
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get it back. So there's a bit of a fine
balancing act between getting enough feet to seat stark On
but not having too much there. It's the quality issue.
You're steering down the barrel of a quality issue. So
we're yeah, we're looking We're looking pretty good. I think
we'll be able to spread use out on the pretty
good covers and you know they're in pretty good mach
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so hopefully we can turn that into good winning weights.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
So what have you got left on winder crops? Now?
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Just a few kettle the singles come off this morning
off their suite. There was a few here for sweet
bobs there, so I'll probably throw the rams at there
or something, just a tidy d mat and kettle on
thought a bat. Yeah, and they've probably got another month
or so on their futabat, which is good because we're
just running around grazing all the full rocation blocks now
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hooggots and twins, So we'll get them tidied up and
knock back in the line, and then in a month
or so it's time when the balls come up the beat,
they'll be have cleenty of feed, they're ready to go
on to the spring rotations.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
And let's not forgetting over the past thirty six months,
throughout the seasons, you've had really trying times there as
far as getting these covers. So going through into September,
with the way things are at the moment, what does
it mean for you?
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Oh no, yeah, I think there have been like we've
had a few dry summers in there, and it's sort
of been a bit challenging. But I'll tell you what,
winter's winters seem to be getting easier and easier. Yeah,
and it's sort of this year. If this year's winter
was what we're going to get going, I'll take it,
you know, like there was a dream winter and I
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know full well that it's not realistic. Some stage will
get another week cold bugger, but you know it's Yeah, summers,
summers are getting tougher, but winters are getting easier. So
you just go to tweat your management to suit it,
you know, like we're putting a bit more summer cropp
and to to try and tight us through the all
the times and still be able to finish as many
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lambs as we can and keep weight on news. So
but yeah, I'm pretty stoked just with where my body
condition is on the US and we scan really well
this year, so I'm really happy with that. And and
then you know, covers are pretty good. So if we
can the challenge now, we'll be getting getting that lemming
percentage to be where it needs to be, you know,
(24:24):
try and aiming for that one fifty odd and then
from tailing to weaning it will be all about winning weights.
So hopefully we can convert good body condition and your
good scanning into land numbers at tailing and land weights
at what you.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Tended to get the iron horse out of the shed
and turn over some worms before September proper, I was.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Thinking of thinking about that use today I don't think, well,
I don't think we'll open anything up, but we'll just
probably the ear eider I reckon. It's quite good to
get on and get the europe. You get the earraiding done,
is as Susan, you're the peed, get that everything less
that happen opened up, and then when you know, you
get a dry, dry pitch in September or something, you
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might be able to get one pedic knocked down and
get it into something oats and grass or something early
for baileage. But we'll say, I don't think we our oats,
oats and grass crops lastly yielded about course what we
were budgeting. So we've got we've still got bailage off sleeve.
So we'll probably put a pedic a solid whole crops
oligen this year, and you maybe save a couple of
(25:29):
backs and not put so much of the oats and
for bailage and just go straight and through the summer
crops with young grass. So that's what I'm thinking. They
even got it completely nailed down.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Now.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
You're a pretty pragmatic individual, Nigel, heading into the busy
time on farm. What's one piece of advice you got
for listeners out there when they things start getting tight?
Speaker 4 (25:51):
I mean springtime, you know it's coming. It's it's always
busy every year, so for me it's you know, make
sure we've got good plans in place and try and
do as much work as you can during the week
and then I try and make sure I've got some
time to hang out for the family and the kids and
spend some time to yourself on the weekend. And one
thing it's really benefit of me is having like just
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taking some time to make the weekend the weekend, because
if you work all day and all night all week
and then all weekend as well, just TEMs to drag on.
So just just try and put yourself in a position
where you can take some time in the weekend to yeah,
sort of deep relaxed debrief, but make make at least
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part of the weekend the weekend. You can chill out
for a wee bit and then Monday, reset, start again
and go ed it. So there's work to be done.
You've got to get the work done. And it's a
busy timing year. Everybody's in the same boat.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
The edit.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yeah, I And the other thing was that I'll makeing
the week in the weekend thing. As kids appreciate it
to spend spend a week of the time, even it's
just half a day hanging out. Will be making sure
they know they spend some time with their old men
and getting to hang out and do some fun stuff
as well as as well as kind of work.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Good on your night You always appreciate your time on
the Muster.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
On your cheese handy, that says the Muster the.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Song's cooled dreamer. Everybody dreams of being something, and dreams
always starts somewhere, traditionally in the farming industry, more often
than not being involved with the Young Farmers clubs. And
that's what we head this afternoon catching up with Eyler Pringle.
She is chaired for Nightcaps Young Farmers. Good day, Eila,
Welcome to the Muster. How are you good?
Speaker 9 (27:48):
Thank you very much and are you.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Can't complain blue sky like this? It certainly puts a
spring in the step. No pen intended for the rend
of August.
Speaker 9 (27:58):
That's right, We're all happy now, Night.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Cats Young Farmers. You're chairperson out there. Firstly, when did
you get involved with Young Farmers.
Speaker 9 (28:08):
When we moved to Headshope. Oh this is the fourth
year there, but yeah, three years ago, I guess just
thought it would be good to meet a few people
in the community and just started turning up to meetings
and events and yeah, sort of just progressed my way
through there. And you have been selected as the chief person.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
So where were you before you leave it a Headshope.
Speaker 9 (28:32):
My partner was farming out at Goode Road and I
was I'm originally from South Chicago, So you'd just been
studied in Dunedin and then you're down south.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
So no, you're only your stone throw away from where
you grew up. There's nothing wrong with that. Now, being
involved with young farmers, no brainer. Everybody to speaks, he
just says the same thing is a great way to
connect and catch up and get social. Suppose I'm the
same from your.
Speaker 9 (29:01):
Yeah, massively, like it's just a great platform to get
off farm. You know, she hears stories over last spring.
It was great to know everyone was in the same
boat and shares some of the problems. But I guess
on the other side of it is, you know, we
have to lead the way forward for the dairy industry
and if we want young Team Kiwi workers in years
(29:25):
to come, we've got to sort of make sure there's
a platform to just share the excitement around farming. So yeah,
it's probably a big way reason why we're involved in
that space.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, it's a very forward thinking approach. You just come
up with them to bed.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
With that, I guess.
Speaker 9 (29:41):
Yeah, like if you don't take the rein, soho does so?
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah, and are you enjoying it as far as being
involved with the executives.
Speaker 9 (29:49):
Yeah, no, it's it's been a learning curve. But yeah,
pretty cool and got some pretty cool things on the horizon,
I think.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
So.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
You made a really interesting comment before about catching up
with other people last spring when it was crappy going,
like said, this season every year is like a box
of chocolates every season. We know that, but have you
guys got any mechanisms and play there as a young
Farmers group, so like chats and just keep going with
a banter when they're going gets tough, what do you
guys do to try and mitigate things?
Speaker 9 (30:21):
Yeah, well that's that's just always there, always a platform.
It's as simple as putting in the chat how we're
going for a drink tonight, and you know people can
all tag along. Everyone's got their own friends within the
Young Farmers Club that they check up on and so yeah,
it's very social sort of group. So we're always talking
(30:47):
and communicating, always events to make sure people were Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Did you find that last year everybody people started struggling,
so they just got in touch to say, Roddie, guys,
let's throw some banter. We just need to keep things
on the straight and level.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
Yeah it's always it's always, you know, pretty active.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
But yeah, no, it'd be the commander for that. That's fantastic.
Look Like I say, every season is different, as are
the events that go on with young farmers. What have
you guys been up to you lately?
Speaker 9 (31:18):
As you know, it's been busy, so it's been away
bit quiet the last few months. We did have a
Golden Standard comp which is a Southland wide competition, held
the event and it was a badminton event. So your
nightcaps came away with the winds. That was just last
week so now we have to come up with a
(31:40):
new event. But yeah, looking forward we've got quite a
few exciting things. The ski trip planned, then trip up
to regional events, Christmas at the races, all sorts of
things coming up.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
He's a regional event this year.
Speaker 9 (31:57):
Clinton, Yeah, nice, hopefully they'll do a good job.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I'm sure they will. And badminton it was in someone's
will shed.
Speaker 9 (32:06):
Yeah yeah, down at the key there, so that was
a great night.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Everyone enjoyed it so Yeah, membership numbers at nightcaps looking good.
Speaker 9 (32:16):
Yeah, yep, just improving. To be honest, we've been a
wee bit slack on Chicken Up, but no, they're just
getting more and more.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
To be fear so you get regularly good attendances at
your meetings, Yeah, No.
Speaker 9 (32:28):
We've been having really really good meetings. So yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Quite a bit happening. We talked about it getting into
the busy season, but you guys will get together and
have the occasional drink and the likes after that. Is
there anything that you guys are planning for, say, over
the next two or three months, you talk about Christmas
at the races, et cetera. Do you do much in
the way of fundraising.
Speaker 9 (32:51):
Wee We're actually looking to do a wee bit more.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
So.
Speaker 9 (32:56):
Yeah, if anyone has any fundraising ideas, reach out. We
do a bit of tailing team to cover a few
silid stacks and things like that.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
So we're going.
Speaker 9 (33:08):
To make some money to have some fun.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
So yeah, well there you go. A coat of arms.
Anybody who's got a few jobs that needs done, that
need done either at nightcatch young farmer. She's a person
to go to, right, that's right now. As far as
your meetings, when do you have them or where do
you normally hold them?
Speaker 9 (33:28):
So first Wednesday of every month, and that's at the
top pub.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
We are.
Speaker 9 (33:34):
We're looking to do a few more farm tools and
factory tools and things like that. So for an update,
it would probably be best to check out Instagram page
or Facebook page just in case we're not at the
top pub. But yeah, first Wednesday of every month and
where we always have a post up on Instagram or Facebook.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
You said factory tours, then where are you hoping.
Speaker 9 (33:58):
To go like a few tulip farms, you know, might
look to go to Fontira or Alliance or something like that,
just to look at some different sides of the industry
that maybe we don't usually look at.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Fantastic here, I was thinking it was going to be
a brewery.
Speaker 9 (34:18):
It's not off the cars.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Hey, good on your isler, so n catch young Farmer's
social channels are active, of anybody else to get involved.
Speaker 9 (34:26):
Yep, yep, and email as well as that's preferred.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Good on your isler, appreciated the chat. You enjoy the
rest of the afternoon. Always appreciate the catch up with
you guys.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yeah, no, awesome.
Speaker 9 (34:37):
Thank you very much, Andy, laugh out loud with ag
proud because life on the land can be a laughing matter.
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Kylie Fuskin from Mount McClain plus more based here, and
Gore joins us once again. Get a Hi, he's doing.
I'm good. What's not to be good about hunt day
when the weather's been the way it is for the
end or the conclusion of winter and we start to
change the farming cycle yet again.
Speaker 10 (35:56):
Yeah, spring starts next week. I thought it started about
three weeks ago. There's some happy, smiling people out there.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Well, death it als are popping up now. It talks
about it before definital days just around the corner. It's
just a mindset thing though, Like the birds are chirpling
before sparrow fart. It's just that time of year.
Speaker 10 (36:12):
Yeah, lighter in the mornings, lighter in the evenings, getting
more done in the day. Carving's going well. Yeah, there's
no bad reports out there, to be fair.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
And a few really lamb gangs seen on the horizon
as well. And that's what you want to talk about today, underesting, Carlie,
you just mentioned to me before you normally refer to
this time of year as maternity leave. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (36:33):
I normally my phone doesn't go and people don't want
to see me and I can get some work done,
So it's not me maternity leave obviously.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
It's just clarify that.
Speaker 10 (36:45):
Yeah, absolutely no, definitely not me, but yeah, I do
call it maternity leave over carving and lemming where I
can get into the office and get some work done.
This year is a little bit different. The phone is
still going, People have time, they want to see me,
they want to make decisions, and it's all really good stuff.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Look we look at Frontier, right, this proposed two dollars
back per share. Let's be cash.
Speaker 10 (37:07):
Yeah, it's a lot of money for some people, isn't it.
And I guess the caveat here is remember this still
has a long way to go. The shareholder vote that
has to happen to sell the consumer brands, for one,
and then of course from that they're proposing a two
dollars a share capital return to shareholders. So we don't
(37:28):
want to count our chickens before they hatch and spend
it yet. But with this prospect, along with a pretty
positive year from our from our trading so far and
forecast it, we've got some options of what to do
with our spare money.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
It's a great problem to have. So, okay, the obvious,
what's some of these options in your opinion?
Speaker 10 (37:54):
So I'm just going to confirm that this two dollars
proposal is not taxable income. Okay, So yeah, it is
not taxed. Last time this happened, it was August twenty
twenty three, at a churn of fifty cents. If you
remember back to August twenty twenty three, because I do,
(38:15):
nobody noticed the fifty cents. Really, it got absorbed into
operating cash flow. It was a welcome relief, definitely, but
it definitely wasn't a life changing sum of money. This time,
I think it's different. It is truly spare money. So
the responsible accountant in me, see, there we go, paydown debt.
(38:38):
So example, two hundred thousand shares, it's four hundred thousand dollars,
give it to your bank, reduce your interest costs every year.
If you're interest rate is six percent, the tax effect
you're going to be seventeen two hundred and fifty better
off a year. Sounds sensible, But coupled with a profitable trading,
(39:04):
are we going to meet dept reduction targets already? Without this?
This doesn't sound like me at all? Does it? What
I'm about to say, and it's probably contrary of what
a lot of people have said. There is an opportunity
here to look at our capital infrastructure on farm. We
(39:27):
have an opportunity to reinvest in their farming businesses. Is
there something we can apply this cash to that will
increase our productivity, create business sustainability, or make our life better.
So we're chasing the three freedoms, right, the freedom of time,
the freedom of mind, and the freedom of money. If
(39:47):
someone gives you a little bit of freedom of money,
how can we turn that freedom into time and mind?
Speaker 1 (39:55):
So stop the press. You're not talking about debt consolidation.
Speaker 10 (39:58):
I'm not talking about debt consolidation entirety.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
No, Well, that's what farming's about to suppose. Every now
and then. You've got to take the wins and yes,
you've got to pay down capital principle on the likes,
you've got to look after your business. But ultimately, if
you've got a bit of money, we'll bagger it. I'm
going to go and buy something. If you're in the position,
you've got to do it though. I mean, that's what
being in the job's all about, right, Yeah.
Speaker 10 (40:20):
So remember that caveat. Is it going to make us
more money? And is it going to make our life easier?
So there's still have a bit of a business case
going on there.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Well, I you, boat's always about a mental health break
so yes, yes.
Speaker 10 (40:32):
Yeah, So that's the option three. And this really doesn't
sound like me. Well, buy boat, yeah, buy boat so
it can gather dust because we still don't have the
time to use it. We can buy a holiday home
where will we end up renting out because we still
don't have the time to use it and it's just
(40:53):
another set of lawns to mow and spider webs to clean.
Or can we use this spare money to invest in
the future. Can we make serious inroads into succession projects
that seemed impossible before?
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Go buy a whitebait stand to use the boat for still.
Speaker 10 (41:11):
Don't have the time because we haven't invested in the time.
When you're investing in something off fun, I always come
with a warning if this does go ahead reports say
first half of twenty twenty six. There's no need to
rush into decisions. Don't go crazy.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Oh here she is, she's back.
Speaker 10 (41:28):
Yeah yeah, FLIPSI again. This is an appropriate time to
talk about what your life looks like in ten to
fifteen years or more. Invest some time in working with
our team to create a succession plan to give clarity
and confidence of this money. Succession isn't a dirty word
and doesn't necessarily mean passing on to the next generation.
(41:50):
But if you can build a plan whatever that looks
like in actions to get there.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Succession, there's a novel right there.
Speaker 10 (41:58):
Yeah, looks different, doesn't it. What does retirement look like
to a farmer?
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Oh?
Speaker 10 (42:04):
Nasty word.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
You're asking some big questions this afternoon.
Speaker 10 (42:08):
That's our job, right. Just because this capital payment, it
doesn't mean you can access it from your trading entity,
especially if you're trading in a limited liability company. This
could require some special careful planning with your accountant. Capital
restructuring is a very technical tax area, and please don't
(42:28):
think your accountant can wave their magic wand and mop
it up later.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Okay, that's a dairy sector. Look at the sheep and
b side of things. Prices are looking really good, obviously,
not the margins a dairy at the moment. What's your
advice there?
Speaker 10 (42:41):
Keep going head down, but keep going give us another year.
Things are looking good, but we're coming off a low base.
We've got a lot to get back to a balance
sheet sustainability before we can say we've got spare money.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
It's going to be fascinating to see the figures after
the landing season based on last year is numbers that
came I think beef and lamb came out with them.
Regarding the lamb numbers and how they were back well,
this year with the carbon farming influence, is going to
be instrumental. Yet again, just give us twelve months. Twelve months,
it's all we asked for.
Speaker 10 (43:14):
The recovery has been really, really good, but yeah, a
wee bit more to go. Yeah, it's not how the
Stranger dread a way.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
To Kylie Fuskin wrapping up the best of the muster.
Thanks very much for your company, Thanks to Manco Fertilizer
as well. My name's Andy Muller. This has been the
best of the muster. Enjoy the weekend, Go to the Stags,
bring that shield south. See you Monday.
Last night. I how the strangers d A very good morning,
and welcome to the Best of the Muster, brought to
you by Marco Fertiliza. My name's Andy Miller. Appreciate your company.
The Best of the Muster is a collaboration of interviews
that took our attention during a busy week here at
Hokanui HQ. And we start off Andandy Dennis farming in
(00:26):
the south proclaimed gold Coast of the South, which is
Manapori Keki, just goes over a few things, how things
are going in the lead into lambing, they probably need
a bit more tuck her up there on the basin.
Mark Dylan Plowman extraordinary. He joins us from the Czech
Republic where he's at yet another World Chams. He's over
there next year as well, and tells us about what
(00:47):
it's like for the logistics with a tractor on the
other side of the world. Matt Warb was on the program.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I had the fortune to catch up with Matt last
week at the Beef and Lamb event here in Gore,
and he's a young guy really who has really switched
on with a lot of passion regarding the rural industry.
And I just thought a messaging was really on point
as well. Regarding the sector, Peter Allen talks Venison of
course farming at Glenure near Belfa. Been involved in the
(01:15):
industry for a very long time, and Pete thinks there's
a lot of good things to celebrate at the moment,
especially when you look at contracts for Venison on the likes.
So boy, he's good to catch up with Pete and
Matt Taylor. He farms up not far out of Garston
at Lawn Peak, and he talks about AI on the
farm and what it means looking into the future. And
(01:37):
you think about artificial intelligence and the way that it's
going to be used in the day to day operations,
especially in a rural sense. It's interesting, to say the least.
So we'll start the yell and ol with Andy Dennis.
Thanks to Marco Fertilizer. This is the best of the muster.
I have a red boye on mother next.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Just let it slide it on.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Ah wait, I like Heroko this afternoon on the muster.
Jamie King farms over that way and joins us in
the Sergeant Dan farming around up. Thanks for Sergeant Dan
stock foods here in Gore, who coincidentally weld under all
that smell of Musually about eight thirty this morning was
pretty daper down the main street of Gore. Jamie, good afternoon,
you know, mate.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
That's a heck of a turn to get going and
get you go from Monday, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
One bird and one Scotch, one beard all eight minutes
thirty and it's glory. Now. When I was at Radio Score,
there was one song we played when we were doing
a show if you need to do a pit stop,
It was called never Ever by the Old Saints. We
went for seven and a half minutes. He had time
to do your business and get back there, and it
wasn't dead there.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Perfect the internet out season with a book, mate.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I'll just leave the song going for a bit because
it does creak and eventually, look, how's everything over your
neck of the woods. You're getting through pretty well?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah, I'm pretty good, mate.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
We're gonna beautiful Dagga today. So it looks like a
bit but we'll clear out to the east from in here.
But now I can't complain any so I'd say super dry.
Considering well we end up we've got forty or fifty
mil there that last belt, but it's also disappeared pretty quick.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
But I had a bit of.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
A tricker on South London said they with her indoors,
the boss Lady, and yeah, it came home feeling pretty good.
I've never even got a knuck grass indy, but we're
going looking pretty pretty good. Got five hundred he pres
of self anemonia and some trace elements on the last
week with had about three eighty of it was with
(03:39):
the bulky, which is pretty much unheard of. And I
can't even see where the bulky has been, so that's
an indication son, pretty good.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Can't compind the moment, would you say your watered table's
back and where it's been compared to have the years
at this time A.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Huge mate hugely so yes, yeah, definitely it's definitely definitely
well down. So his room probably come up web But
on that note, you'd be careful what you wish for.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Eh, pretty much the song is still going where we're
up to. I was going to crank in there's still five,
but it's twenty five to go on. It's a it's
a rougher javy, but yeah it is. It's arguably been
one of those winters the end of winter. What are
we now about? The twenty fifth of August? Another six
seven days and we're into a new into a new
(04:23):
season officially, that's.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Right, Yeah, it's it's it's just unkenny and we've had
winter Andy, it's been it's been cold, it's been frost lot,
we've a grass gras has good stop when it's only
just kicking around there. But we you know, saw tem
was pretty just not too far away, and I think
that's due to the lack of moisture in the soil.
That always helps. So yeah, we'll just wait and see.
(04:49):
Just on everyone, all the all the negative people out
they keep on that spring with head last time and
now it can't happen twice in one Usually.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
It's all of our perspective in the season though.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
One hundred percent. So no, we'll just make it.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Up as we go.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
We're crank a good now, Jamie.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
It's a long song. Gotta be a great song in
the worldsheed on. Imagine around the milking parlor when you've
got time to kill. Hey, am the Alliance group with
this proposed restructure featuring Dawn Meats, you supply Alliance, what
are your thoughts around it because interesting an article from
the Irish Perspective. I'll tell you about that shortly. But
(05:39):
what do you make of it, Jamie?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Well, yeah, mate, at the end of the day, what
other options have we got? Im we entrust the pairs
to be up there, doesn't it to act appropriately obviously
as handful them haven't done or zero accountability and that's
what's led us down this strap. You know that famously
(06:01):
one of the thelemes that history never repeats. But I'm
sure sil firms went through this, you know what twenty
sixteen or fifteen Again, I don't know, mate, I've got
two different ways to look at it. Obviously that are
trying to secure a protein source or feed source, and
you look at some numbers teams, it might be quite
good for us for a couple of years. Long term,
(06:25):
I don't know, We're seems to losing control of their product,
but it's probably hard to do because we're in the
middle of our way. I'd still a lot to say
the remixed do get together in this country, mate, and
join forces and get bigger. But look at the frontier
model and something like that. Right then, I have to
tell you how to look at it. You know, they
are pretty successful in New Zealand based company. But as
(06:45):
far as we're concerned that Pa, you know, they glass
are sort of off right now and it's just yeah,
let's keep going and fox on.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Do you think the horse has bolted as far as
that mega amalgamation which kind of occurred.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Sat ago, Yeah, big time mate. You know, they're still
going to probably over capitalization and still friends of books
aren't too probably shit hot tell these guys, well, that's
an interesting one of the diversifications, probably working really well
for them. But yeah, yeah, the horse pot and there's
(07:20):
Tony Ego is probably amy, you know, and there's a
few of them have been suffer around hopefully working for
allowance to fall completely units on its head. But yeah,
we're at the stage there, so we'll just wait and
see you going forward.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Irish farmers don't sound too chuffed about this supposed agreement
that's in the making as well, because what's an article
here from the Irish Scribes The deal raises red flags
for Irish sheep farmers that creates a real risk of
bore New Zealand lay William up in supermarket shelves in
the EU and the UK. Underminding demand for Irish lam
and ultimately hitting farmers here in the pocket, stressing that
(07:56):
low income Irish sheep farmers can't afford to be squeezed further.
So it's another reesting way to look at it too rightly.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
So I'll be I'll be I'll be probably pretty brassed
off and in order if I was over the same thing,
you know. Yeah, you know, if someone came into this
country and doing the same thing and contrasting schemes. I
suppose they've got a population when we haven't. On that night,
the environment management systems are a lot more intensive and
(08:26):
they've got a lot more It's probably a lot more
expensive to raise a laim over there currently the New Zealand.
But I mean, yeah, population's going and corporates take hold,
I suppose, don't they. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I think it's all about a year round supply over
on that side of the world. That's half the appeal.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, And I suppose that makes sense for in the
southern hemosphere, doesn't it.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
You know?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
In the sorry is it just coming out of summer,
aren't they? So? Yeah? But it might be really really good,
But nothing's ever fear, is it? So?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
So when it comes to these meetings, uriculous the case
of having to vote years because the other one isn't
worth thinking about.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
Ah, yeah, we'll reevaluate the road shows, try and give
a couple of direct there's not a wind up because
I've just there's a couple still floating around there that
are probably part of the reason has been zero accountability
from some of.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Them, which really really frustrates me. You know, if you're
gonna put your hand up and do the role, do
it properly. So yeah, I know I've got a fair
idea which way will go, but otherwise what is the option?
But on that note, we're pretty loyal people here, and
I suppose it's a breath of fresh art toil. It
give us opportunities to hunt around and hecking. He wouldn't
(09:38):
it be nice if we could just tender our livestock,
you know, and we forgot procurement wars. That'll be interesting,
wouldn't it.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, it's going to be a supply and demand you
to get us. Suppose because you look at these numbers.
We had the figure that came out in November December
last year, and that was obviously due to the spring.
But then we think about the decline and red meat
Judah numbers just disappearing and being replaced by plants or trees.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
That's right, and we've probably have enough trees to be fair.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
You can't eat trees.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
You can't.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
You can try, but it would be weird.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
You'd say, so geez seen, and so it might be
good yeah, short term. I think it's going to be
a good, good thing long term or don't. Yeah, I
don't know.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
We're just here.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
We'll see you see what appends out. I'd love a
crystal ball endy, but I don't even in this kiss.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Good on you, Jamie. We'll let you carry on a noliyse.
Appreciate your time.
Speaker 8 (10:33):
Hey everyone, I want seven mile barbed wire.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I got a snipe, Ben do we farms? Just out
of window? Sheep Beef and as well. He as a
YouTube channel called Deep South of Sheep and Beef. Enjoys
us being good afternoon? How are you?
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Oh, not too bad into yourself?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
An afternoon like this is pretty pleasant for the end
of August.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
Pretty bloody good. Just going around early lemmas now and yeah,
they're obviously enjoying the weather because they're not doing a
whole lot of bloody lambing waiting on the weather will
arrive at the end of the week. But that's that's
what it is. I suppose to that.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
When were they supposed to start.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Twenty third of August, So they're only in their third
day now. But yeah, there's not much happening, But that's
all right, I'll get there.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Days like this are just lounging out, showing their cads
quite happy about things. I'd imagine.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Yeah, I just wouldn't mind if they started pushing a
few lambs out. That was all in this nice sunny
great to be born as a lamb weather.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Then we talk about technology on farming, the way things advance.
You just had the conveyor in this morning. This is
one of the things that has been implemented into a
farming system for a lot of people. You see more
positives and negatives around it.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Oh, it is just magic. This is only the second
year we've been doing it, and oh, it's just easier
on everyone. It's easy on us. We put seventeen hundred
US and six hundred and thirty hoggits through it. Two
jebs for the US, one jeb one drinch for the hoggits.
And it took less than three hours this morning. We
used to do it all in the in the yards
in the race, and would do it in say four days.
(12:14):
So the US are in the in the in the
yards too long because they do they don't like being
stood off feet for six or seven hours. Yeah, he
used to break their backs doing it. Sort of wasn't
that great for the US either, squeezing them up in
a race. And yeah, you take that technology on cost
a little bit of money, it's not even that expensive
and makes everyone's life a whole lot easier.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Well, that's the thing that's over and done with in
the blink of an eye. Whereas if you're doing it yourself,
and this costs come into it. But if you can
do it that way, it just freeze up time.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Absolutely, and even things like misshots, like when they're in
the conveyor, it's a lot easier not to do that
and make sure all the drench goes in the mouth
properly and everything, as opposed to wrestling with them in
a race. And I mean these things aren't like a
lot of those twin US with the lambs and them
are probably eighty five ninety kilos. So yeah, just just
works out better it doesn't and banter.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
You get bent when you've got people working in the
mode like that too, it's good.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Yeah, that's good. Quite a good crew that come and
do it too, so that she's bloody good.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
You want to talk about white muscle issues today, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
I think so. We've had a few hogits just yeah talking,
a few mates are in the place and then people
you know that that well, not directly to events, but yeah,
a lot of people were saying, it's probably what muscle
what you've got. So we just when we put them
over the convey we just gave them a selling eye
five and one will be twelve. So hopefully that's enough
to pick them up and solve that issue. But not
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something we've seen for a long time. I don't actually
remember seeing it all in my life, but yeah, just
they sort of go down on one side and they
can't get up there. They've got the energy, but they
just they can't get the balance there. The leagues aren't working.
So yeah, it was a new one for us to
see and hopefully we'll fix that up now. But something
to keep it on, I guess, especially if you've got
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hoggits on swedes for a long amount of time.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Soele any of deficiency has been a problem, well.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Not historically, although the last few years I had neglected
to put on the old Selenium privls away bit between
not putting for it on at all and then last
year ordering it, putting it on and then gone and
you I forgot something. But yeah, they do get a
reasonable amount of supplementation, and like the mixtage using the
twotis the whole way through and having that loose like
salt which they seem to absolutely wolf down, which I
love it they do, and the sult their bias that
(14:25):
salt looks as well. But yeah, so they should be fine.
So maybe next year we give it to the Hoggits
as well. Just not something I really thought was necessary,
but yeah, not saving a few more Hoggits next year.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
How many Hoggits do you reckon You're lost?
Speaker 5 (14:38):
It's about six or seven, I think I'm just trying
to think. Yeah, I think it is seven now year.
So well, a bit frustrating, but just one of those
things that catches.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yet sometimes you also want to talk about the feeding
and triplets. Great Butcher on the show last week saying
that triplets are a different kettle the fisher when it
comes to feeding and also talking about perhaps doing some
trials with triplets being mixed in with singles. Have you
got some thoughts around us?
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Yeah, I completely agree with them. Like there's triplets are
a massive pain, they're also a massive potential opportunity if
we can find a system that works better in their favor,
because we've got them and they don't seem to be
going anywhere in a hurry. If the olgu guys could
tell us that they could promise us no more triplets,
I think, or just a bit a vote for it
in the heartbeat, but they can't. So yeah, No, I
(15:25):
completely agree with what Graham is saying. You do have
to feed them a whole lot better. And what we've
found is we get them out of scanning time and
we feed them pretty well from then on, and we
try to make them eat. Pattis down pretty hard through
July and in the early August. But but you know,
giving them good feed, big breaks, just just sort of
making sure they get that little bit of feed pressure
(15:46):
at the end of every break because otherwise when you
move them on they do get groggy. But do that
in some sort of them at August and then a
couple of breaks of leaving a fair bit behind, and
then we get them in quite early to do their prelam,
like a good five weeks before four or five weeks
before their land. Get that out of the road, and
that just seems to alleviate any milk fever issues that
we used to see a lot of trying to do it.
(16:08):
So the twentieth twenty fifth of August, do that and
get them spread out and some good feed, and then
drive around and pick up the casts every day. But yeah, no,
I just just sort of wanted to touch on that.
The one thing you said that sort of did consider
me a'll weave it because we used to do it
was feeding a sheet nuts. I do think they're a
good thing, and they certainly have their place, but that
(16:28):
can definitely be overdone because we used to feed them
just add lib from scanning on we used to feed
them sheet nuts. Think we're doing the right thing, and
then we just lost sheep hand over foot were just
they were just too big and they just couldn't handle
it and had bearings everywhere. And yes, I guess we've
been a cavet with that. They do need to be
feed very well, but you can go overboard.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
With it just supplements them in the right situation.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Though, yeah, absolutely, Like, probably don't do three hundred grams
a sheet, not today every day from scanning would be
a good idea because that's just a bit much fun.
But yeah, like I say, the cheatnuts are a great thing,
and they also you can get the high mineral ones
high ignesium. I think it is that keep just give
them that extra wed boost the whole way along too.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
So yeah, are they plovers in the background.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Yes, I've got plovers, I've got oyster catchers, I've got
pied stilts. I think I've got some we turns buzzing
around somewhere. They're just going nuts. As actually saw plover
chicks the other day.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
The bird life at this time of year is spectacular
and of nothing else. You know that you go through
the changing of the seasons.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Yeah, yeah, well, of course a crop pettics. It's a
mess of plain in the ass because I refuse to
run them all over apart from maybe the plovers, so
I wind up with big Missus all over the paddock.
But yeah, they are apart from the plovers. They are
all made a wildlife, aren't they. So it's cool to
see them around, and they really seem to like nesting
in that dirt for some reason.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Just quickly to wrap up a lion straat with dawn meats.
What are your thoughts on at Dells.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Yeah, look, it's it's a real hard one. I don't
think it's a particularly great deal, but I don't think
turning the deal down is a good idea either. I've
got some views long term for the industry that we
won't get into today. Hopefully a later date there's a
bit more well, we know a bit more about what's
going on, and we were able to talk about that.
(18:12):
But I kind of feel like it's just a thing
we should take. We've got an option to get out
or get out of jail card here. I suppose you'd say,
if we don't take it, we're going to lose plants,
and people say we need to do that, and there
is some truth in that, but I just don't know
if losing that great, big plant at Lawnville is the
(18:34):
way to go. Alliance still kills something like forty of
the sheep killed in the South Island, and I just
remember hearing stories from the previous generation here back in
the day it's when full Text went broken and space
was really tight, and you'd see a stock truck go
down the road and you'd be on the phone to
your agent, who'd you give bloody space? Yeah, I think
(18:57):
we take this deal and then we need to talk
about what we do with air industry because it is
an industry wide problem. Alliance is the one that has
the most problems, but none of the companies are doing
particularly well, and we look at what's happening with Frontier.
We can't go to that model exactly, but something's got
to change, and I think if we do this, we
can then start moving towards or at least start having
(19:18):
the conversation about what we think that should look like.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
And interesting thoughts being well. Have to follow us up
in a couple of weeks. Always good to catch up
on Nigel what he had fans in South of Tago
between Bear clother and Milton and joins us good aid
nightge hells things.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Yeah, things are pretty good today, Simers.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Shrine it a little bit cooler hearing go first thing
that's blue sky now and that's pretty much the perfect
deal to August.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Yeah that things things are taken along pretty well actually,
although I'm not. I'm not not on farmers we speak
of just sitting on the main drag and Milton actually
giving Lee in giving Lee any hand to do some
sign riding on the book and milk them. They're doing
a rebrand, So I'm playing sign rider today.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
No, you're a man of many talents, not to be underestimated.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Yeah, yeah, Well when when Leanne used to do, he
been wedding stalling and all that sort of bits and
pieces of the farmer during the week and and wedding
stallists and knocking around at weddings during the during the
weekend sometimes in the summer as well. So it's good
and it's quite like I actually quite enjoy it's something
different to farming, and you know, it's a good week
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business for the end. She takes away and does it
and gives me something else to do when when she's
got jobs on, I can give her a head. That's
quite good.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
So how's your grass looking for the end of the month.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
We're looking really good.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Actually, yeah, yep, we.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Things I couldn't tell you whatever cover is, but yeah,
we're looking looking really good. We've got plenty of attacker
around they I always reacon sometime in August, your pinnick
about how are you going to get through the seat
of stock, And he's always a period of time where
you say, oh, I don't even have to feed, and
I'm going to have to break all the rules and
do this and do that. You know, this year, we've
sort of always been able to see a path in
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front of us. You know, even though the feed budget
says we're good, you always panic a webit. But this year,
you know, you could see the feed in front. I
knew where things were going to go and what was
going to happen for the next few weeks. We'll sit stocking.
So that's a good sign. That means we're Yeah, so
they've got one to got the autumn management right and
got window management right, and us are looking really good.
(21:30):
Singles or head through the yards this afternoon and get
their prelam animal health and get drafted into their seat
stocking lines and then go back here and we'll set
stock and probably another week ten days time here.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Farmers are always fussy about their covers though.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Oh yeah, it's one of those things fishally this time
of year, you can well, I was going to say,
you can never have too much grass, you sort of
can a web it like you. You want to have
plenty of feed landing onto really good covers so that
you know those lambs get up and away they'll a
good start. But same time as you have too much feed. Yeah,
and then and then you get into September and it
warms up and grass really takes off or we never
(22:06):
get it back. So there's a bit of a fine
balancing act between getting enough feet to seat stark On
but not having too much there. It's the quality issue.
You're steering down the barrel of a quality issue. So
we're yeah, we're looking We're looking pretty good. I think
we'll be able to spread use out on the pretty
good covers and you know they're in pretty good mach
(22:27):
so hopefully we can turn that into good winning weights.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
So what have you got left on winder crops? Now?
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Just a few kettle the singles come off this morning
off their suite. There was a few here for sweet
bobs there, so I'll probably throw the rams at there
or something, just a tidy d mat and kettle on
thought a bat. Yeah, and they've probably got another month
or so on their futabat, which is good because we're
just running around grazing all the full rocation blocks now
(22:52):
hooggots and twins, So we'll get them tidied up and
knock back in the line, and then in a month
or so it's time when the balls come up the beat,
they'll be have cleenty of feed, they're ready to go
on to the spring rotations.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
And let's not forgetting over the past thirty six months,
throughout the seasons, you've had really trying times there as
far as getting these covers. So going through into September,
with the way things are at the moment, what does
it mean for you?
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Oh no, yeah, I think there have been like we've
had a few dry summers in there, and it's sort
of been a bit challenging. But I'll tell you what,
winter's winters seem to be getting easier and easier. Yeah,
and it's sort of this year. If this year's winter
was what we're going to get going, I'll take it,
you know, like there was a dream winter and I
(23:40):
know full well that it's not realistic. Some stage will
get another week cold bugger, but you know it's Yeah, summers,
summers are getting tougher, but winters are getting easier. So
you just go to tweat your management to suit it,
you know, like we're putting a bit more summer cropp
and to to try and tight us through the all
the times and still be able to finish as many
(24:02):
lambs as we can and keep weight on news. So
but yeah, I'm pretty stoked just with where my body
condition is on the US and we scan really well
this year, so I'm really happy with that. And and
then you know, covers are pretty good. So if we
can the challenge now, we'll be getting getting that lemming
percentage to be where it needs to be, you know,
(24:24):
try and aiming for that one fifty odd and then
from tailing to weaning it will be all about winning weights.
So hopefully we can convert good body condition and your
good scanning into land numbers at tailing and land weights
at what you.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Tended to get the iron horse out of the shed
and turn over some worms before September proper, I was.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Thinking of thinking about that use today I don't think, well,
I don't think we'll open anything up, but we'll just
probably the ear eider I reckon. It's quite good to
get on and get the europe. You get the earraiding done,
is as Susan, you're the peed, get that everything less
that happen opened up, and then when you know, you
get a dry, dry pitch in September or something, you
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might be able to get one pedic knocked down and
get it into something oats and grass or something early
for baileage. But we'll say, I don't think we our oats,
oats and grass crops lastly yielded about course what we
were budgeting. So we've got we've still got bailage off sleeve.
So we'll probably put a pedic a solid whole crops
oligen this year, and you maybe save a couple of
(25:29):
backs and not put so much of the oats and
for bailage and just go straight and through the summer
crops with young grass. So that's what I'm thinking. They
even got it completely nailed down.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Now.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
You're a pretty pragmatic individual, Nigel, heading into the busy
time on farm. What's one piece of advice you got
for listeners out there when they things start getting tight?
Speaker 4 (25:51):
I mean springtime, you know it's coming. It's it's always
busy every year, so for me it's you know, make
sure we've got good plans in place and try and
do as much work as you can during the week
and then I try and make sure I've got some
time to hang out for the family and the kids and
spend some time to yourself on the weekend. And one
thing it's really benefit of me is having like just
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taking some time to make the weekend the weekend, because
if you work all day and all night all week
and then all weekend as well, just TEMs to drag on.
So just just try and put yourself in a position
where you can take some time in the weekend to yeah,
sort of deep relaxed debrief, but make make at least
(26:36):
part of the weekend the weekend. You can chill out
for a wee bit and then Monday, reset, start again
and go ed it. So there's work to be done.
You've got to get the work done. And it's a
busy timing year. Everybody's in the same boat.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
The edit.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yeah, I And the other thing was that I'll makeing
the week in the weekend thing. As kids appreciate it
to spend spend a week of the time, even it's
just half a day hanging out. Will be making sure
they know they spend some time with their old men
and getting to hang out and do some fun stuff
as well as as well as kind of work.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Good on your night You always appreciate your time on
the Muster.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
On your cheese handy, that says the Muster the.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Song's cooled dreamer. Everybody dreams of being something, and dreams
always starts somewhere, traditionally in the farming industry, more often
than not being involved with the Young Farmers clubs. And
that's what we head this afternoon catching up with Eyler Pringle.
She is chaired for Nightcaps Young Farmers. Good day, Eila,
Welcome to the Muster. How are you good?
Speaker 9 (27:48):
Thank you very much and are you.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Can't complain blue sky like this? It certainly puts a
spring in the step. No pen intended for the rend
of August.
Speaker 9 (27:58):
That's right, We're all happy now, Night.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Cats Young Farmers. You're chairperson out there. Firstly, when did
you get involved with Young Farmers.
Speaker 9 (28:08):
When we moved to Headshope. Oh this is the fourth
year there, but yeah, three years ago, I guess just
thought it would be good to meet a few people
in the community and just started turning up to meetings
and events and yeah, sort of just progressed my way
through there. And you have been selected as the chief person.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
So where were you before you leave it a Headshope.
Speaker 9 (28:32):
My partner was farming out at Goode Road and I
was I'm originally from South Chicago, So you'd just been
studied in Dunedin and then you're down south.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
So no, you're only your stone throw away from where
you grew up. There's nothing wrong with that. Now, being
involved with young farmers, no brainer. Everybody to speaks, he
just says the same thing is a great way to
connect and catch up and get social. Suppose I'm the
same from your.
Speaker 9 (29:01):
Yeah, massively, like it's just a great platform to get
off farm. You know, she hears stories over last spring.
It was great to know everyone was in the same
boat and shares some of the problems. But I guess
on the other side of it is, you know, we
have to lead the way forward for the dairy industry
and if we want young Team Kiwi workers in years
(29:25):
to come, we've got to sort of make sure there's
a platform to just share the excitement around farming. So yeah,
it's probably a big way reason why we're involved in
that space.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, it's a very forward thinking approach. You just come
up with them to bed.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
With that, I guess.
Speaker 9 (29:41):
Yeah, like if you don't take the rein, soho does so?
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah, and are you enjoying it as far as being
involved with the executives.
Speaker 9 (29:49):
Yeah, no, it's it's been a learning curve. But yeah,
pretty cool and got some pretty cool things on the horizon,
I think.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
So.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
You made a really interesting comment before about catching up
with other people last spring when it was crappy going,
like said, this season every year is like a box
of chocolates every season. We know that, but have you
guys got any mechanisms and play there as a young
Farmers group, so like chats and just keep going with
a banter when they're going gets tough, what do you
guys do to try and mitigate things?
Speaker 9 (30:21):
Yeah, well that's that's just always there, always a platform.
It's as simple as putting in the chat how we're
going for a drink tonight, and you know people can
all tag along. Everyone's got their own friends within the
Young Farmers Club that they check up on and so yeah,
it's very social sort of group. So we're always talking
(30:47):
and communicating, always events to make sure people were Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Did you find that last year everybody people started struggling,
so they just got in touch to say, Roddie, guys,
let's throw some banter. We just need to keep things
on the straight and level.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
Yeah it's always it's always, you know, pretty active.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
But yeah, no, it'd be the commander for that. That's fantastic.
Look Like I say, every season is different, as are
the events that go on with young farmers. What have
you guys been up to you lately?
Speaker 9 (31:18):
As you know, it's been busy, so it's been away
bit quiet the last few months. We did have a
Golden Standard comp which is a Southland wide competition, held
the event and it was a badminton event. So your
nightcaps came away with the winds. That was just last
week so now we have to come up with a
(31:40):
new event. But yeah, looking forward we've got quite a
few exciting things. The ski trip planned, then trip up
to regional events, Christmas at the races, all sorts of
things coming up.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
He's a regional event this year.
Speaker 9 (31:57):
Clinton, Yeah, nice, hopefully they'll do a good job.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I'm sure they will. And badminton it was in someone's
will shed.
Speaker 9 (32:06):
Yeah yeah, down at the key there, so that was
a great night.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Everyone enjoyed it so Yeah, membership numbers at nightcaps looking good.
Speaker 9 (32:16):
Yeah, yep, just improving. To be honest, we've been a
wee bit slack on Chicken Up, but no, they're just
getting more and more.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
To be fear so you get regularly good attendances at
your meetings, Yeah, No.
Speaker 9 (32:28):
We've been having really really good meetings. So yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Quite a bit happening. We talked about it getting into
the busy season, but you guys will get together and
have the occasional drink and the likes after that. Is
there anything that you guys are planning for, say, over
the next two or three months, you talk about Christmas
at the races, et cetera. Do you do much in
the way of fundraising.
Speaker 9 (32:51):
Wee We're actually looking to do a wee bit more.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
So.
Speaker 9 (32:56):
Yeah, if anyone has any fundraising ideas, reach out. We
do a bit of tailing team to cover a few
silid stacks and things like that.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
So we're going.
Speaker 9 (33:08):
To make some money to have some fun.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
So yeah, well there you go. A coat of arms.
Anybody who's got a few jobs that needs done, that
need done either at nightcatch young farmer. She's a person
to go to, right, that's right now. As far as
your meetings, when do you have them or where do
you normally hold them?
Speaker 9 (33:28):
So first Wednesday of every month, and that's at the
top pub.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
We are.
Speaker 9 (33:34):
We're looking to do a few more farm tools and
factory tools and things like that. So for an update,
it would probably be best to check out Instagram page
or Facebook page just in case we're not at the
top pub. But yeah, first Wednesday of every month and
where we always have a post up on Instagram or Facebook.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
You said factory tours, then where are you hoping.
Speaker 9 (33:58):
To go like a few tulip farms, you know, might
look to go to Fontira or Alliance or something like that,
just to look at some different sides of the industry
that maybe we don't usually look at.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Fantastic here, I was thinking it was going to be
a brewery.
Speaker 9 (34:18):
It's not off the cars.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Hey, good on your isler, so n catch young Farmer's
social channels are active, of anybody else to get involved.
Speaker 9 (34:26):
Yep, yep, and email as well as that's preferred.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Good on your isler, appreciated the chat. You enjoy the
rest of the afternoon. Always appreciate the catch up with
you guys.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yeah, no, awesome.
Speaker 9 (34:37):
Thank you very much, Andy, laugh out loud with ag
proud because life on the land can be a laughing matter.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
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Kylie Fuskin from Mount McClain plus more based here, and
Gore joins us once again. Get a Hi, he's doing.
I'm good. What's not to be good about hunt day
when the weather's been the way it is for the
end or the conclusion of winter and we start to
change the farming cycle yet again.
Speaker 10 (35:56):
Yeah, spring starts next week. I thought it started about
three weeks ago. There's some happy, smiling people out there.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Well, death it als are popping up now. It talks
about it before definital days just around the corner. It's
just a mindset thing though, Like the birds are chirpling
before sparrow fart. It's just that time of year.
Speaker 10 (36:12):
Yeah, lighter in the mornings, lighter in the evenings, getting
more done in the day. Carving's going well. Yeah, there's
no bad reports out there, to be fair.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
And a few really lamb gangs seen on the horizon
as well. And that's what you want to talk about today, underesting, Carlie,
you just mentioned to me before you normally refer to
this time of year as maternity leave. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (36:33):
I normally my phone doesn't go and people don't want
to see me and I can get some work done,
So it's not me maternity leave obviously.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
It's just clarify that.
Speaker 10 (36:45):
Yeah, absolutely no, definitely not me, but yeah, I do
call it maternity leave over carving and lemming where I
can get into the office and get some work done.
This year is a little bit different. The phone is
still going, People have time, they want to see me,
they want to make decisions, and it's all really good stuff.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Look we look at Frontier, right, this proposed two dollars
back per share. Let's be cash.
Speaker 10 (37:07):
Yeah, it's a lot of money for some people, isn't it.
And I guess the caveat here is remember this still
has a long way to go. The shareholder vote that
has to happen to sell the consumer brands, for one,
and then of course from that they're proposing a two
dollars a share capital return to shareholders. So we don't
(37:28):
want to count our chickens before they hatch and spend
it yet. But with this prospect, along with a pretty
positive year from our from our trading so far and
forecast it, we've got some options of what to do
with our spare money.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
It's a great problem to have. So, okay, the obvious,
what's some of these options in your opinion?
Speaker 10 (37:54):
So I'm just going to confirm that this two dollars
proposal is not taxable income. Okay, So yeah, it is
not taxed. Last time this happened, it was August twenty
twenty three, at a churn of fifty cents. If you
remember back to August twenty twenty three, because I do,
(38:15):
nobody noticed the fifty cents. Really, it got absorbed into
operating cash flow. It was a welcome relief, definitely, but
it definitely wasn't a life changing sum of money. This time,
I think it's different. It is truly spare money. So
the responsible accountant in me, see, there we go, paydown debt.
(38:38):
So example, two hundred thousand shares, it's four hundred thousand dollars,
give it to your bank, reduce your interest costs every year.
If you're interest rate is six percent, the tax effect
you're going to be seventeen two hundred and fifty better
off a year. Sounds sensible, But coupled with a profitable trading,
(39:04):
are we going to meet dept reduction targets already? Without this?
This doesn't sound like me at all? Does it? What
I'm about to say, and it's probably contrary of what
a lot of people have said. There is an opportunity
here to look at our capital infrastructure on farm. We
(39:27):
have an opportunity to reinvest in their farming businesses. Is
there something we can apply this cash to that will
increase our productivity, create business sustainability, or make our life better.
So we're chasing the three freedoms, right, the freedom of time,
the freedom of mind, and the freedom of money. If
(39:47):
someone gives you a little bit of freedom of money,
how can we turn that freedom into time and mind?
Speaker 1 (39:55):
So stop the press. You're not talking about debt consolidation.
Speaker 10 (39:58):
I'm not talking about debt consolidation entirety.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
No, Well, that's what farming's about to suppose. Every now
and then. You've got to take the wins and yes,
you've got to pay down capital principle on the likes,
you've got to look after your business. But ultimately, if
you've got a bit of money, we'll bagger it. I'm
going to go and buy something. If you're in the position,
you've got to do it though. I mean, that's what
being in the job's all about, right, Yeah.
Speaker 10 (40:20):
So remember that caveat. Is it going to make us
more money? And is it going to make our life easier?
So there's still have a bit of a business case
going on there.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Well, I you, boat's always about a mental health break
so yes, yes.
Speaker 10 (40:32):
Yeah, So that's the option three. And this really doesn't
sound like me. Well, buy boat, yeah, buy boat so
it can gather dust because we still don't have the
time to use it. We can buy a holiday home
where will we end up renting out because we still
don't have the time to use it and it's just
(40:53):
another set of lawns to mow and spider webs to clean.
Or can we use this spare money to invest in
the future. Can we make serious inroads into succession projects
that seemed impossible before?
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Go buy a whitebait stand to use the boat for still.
Speaker 10 (41:11):
Don't have the time because we haven't invested in the time.
When you're investing in something off fun, I always come
with a warning if this does go ahead reports say
first half of twenty twenty six. There's no need to
rush into decisions. Don't go crazy.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Oh here she is, she's back.
Speaker 10 (41:28):
Yeah yeah, FLIPSI again. This is an appropriate time to
talk about what your life looks like in ten to
fifteen years or more. Invest some time in working with
our team to create a succession plan to give clarity
and confidence of this money. Succession isn't a dirty word
and doesn't necessarily mean passing on to the next generation.
(41:50):
But if you can build a plan whatever that looks
like in actions to get there.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Succession, there's a novel right there.
Speaker 10 (41:58):
Yeah, looks different, doesn't it. What does retirement look like
to a farmer?
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Oh?
Speaker 10 (42:04):
Nasty word.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
You're asking some big questions this afternoon.
Speaker 10 (42:08):
That's our job, right. Just because this capital payment, it
doesn't mean you can access it from your trading entity,
especially if you're trading in a limited liability company. This
could require some special careful planning with your accountant. Capital
restructuring is a very technical tax area, and please don't
(42:28):
think your accountant can wave their magic wand and mop
it up later.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Okay, that's a dairy sector. Look at the sheep and
b side of things. Prices are looking really good, obviously,
not the margins a dairy at the moment. What's your
advice there?
Speaker 10 (42:41):
Keep going head down, but keep going give us another year.
Things are looking good, but we're coming off a low base.
We've got a lot to get back to a balance
sheet sustainability before we can say we've got spare money.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
It's going to be fascinating to see the figures after
the landing season based on last year is numbers that
came I think beef and lamb came out with them.
Regarding the lamb numbers and how they were back well,
this year with the carbon farming influence, is going to
be instrumental. Yet again, just give us twelve months. Twelve months,
it's all we asked for.
Speaker 10 (43:14):
The recovery has been really, really good, but yeah, a
wee bit more to go. Yeah, it's not how the
Stranger dread a way.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
To Kylie Fuskin wrapping up the best of the muster.
Thanks very much for your company, Thanks to Manco Fertilizer
as well. My name's Andy Muller. This has been the
best of the muster. Enjoy the weekend, Go to the Stags,
bring that shield south. See you Monday.
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