October 21, 2025 • 7 mins
Craig Sinclair looks at changes to Gore's recycling system.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
This is the muster Craig Sinclair of Gore District Council
here is lead to sustainability in waste management.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
We're talking about recycling.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
You may have noticed in the Gore Region in particular,
they've changed the way that we're going about doing the
rubbish pickup, which stems back to three, two or three
years ago now probably even longer. Craig's nodding, so I'm
not too far wrong. He'll fill this in on that shortly.
It Craig, good to catch up.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Good Andy, how are you or.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
In the studio.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'm looking outside and it's warmer in here that it
is out there. But that one issue that is affecting
a lot of people at the moment though, Craig has
been the recycling here in the Gore region being told
we can only put glass in a yellow bin. But
all of a sudden we've gone back to the old system.
Like Southern District Council enjoys what's changed.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Okay, So council decided earlier this year that would go
back to full recycling. So full recycling includes cardboard, your
plastics one too and five glass bottles are included as well,
and cans, alumineum cans and tin cans, so people will
be able to put them into the yellow bins again
and put them out on the curb side. That's going
(01:13):
to start on the week of the third of November,
but the first actual collection of recycling will be for
the North Gore area on the fifth of November and
then we'll go week about so one week will be
your red waste bin and then the next week will
be a yellow recycling bin.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
So why are we changed again?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Why have you gone away from just this glass approach
for the recycling.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Well, we are having to minimize as much waste as
we can. So a number of years ago the government
just put in a waste minimization levey which started off
at a low rate. It is now sixty five dollars
a ton that council has to pay in a levee
for every ton of waste that we send to land
for and Gore district sends around seven and a half
(01:58):
thousand ton of years. So if you do the maths
on that, it's quite a considerable amount of money we
can save if we can get people recycling better.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
So the reason that South and District Council has been
doing the recycling all the way through. What's the difference there.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I'm not sure exactly why Gore District pulled out of it,
but there was a decision of council, probably two councils ago,
that decided not to carry on with a full recycling.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
We're getting we're starting to see a little bit of change.
That's when it comes down.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
To exactly, we're going back to what we used to
do because it's more sustainable and we can save money
by taking waste out of the waste stream.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So as far as rural folk around the Gore region,
what change is there?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Not a lot for them. Pakki Lines will still be
doing what they do up at their factory up on
How can we drive there so you can drop your cardboards,
your milk bottles. They enjoy milk bottles because they're getting
a good price for them at the moment. Cans for
milk bottles, plastic milk bottles. Yeah, it's one of the
good commodities at the moment.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Why is that, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Recycling is a pretty fickle market, you know, and it's
up and down, and it seems to be something that's
paying its way at the moment. That and aluminium cans.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
So we can expect to see plastic milk bottles on
the stock.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Exchange maybe who knows Andy, So.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Okay, we look at the situation in general just regarding
rubbish just not for good for Southland. Is it in
a healthy state at the moment as much as it
can be as far as management.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
So we have waste Net which is a sheared service
of the three councils and waste Net is a means
of managing the contract for our general waste across south
and so we have one company at the moment that
does all that general waste, which is Waistcoat. They manage
all the contracts and it's a cheaper way for the
(03:45):
three councils to come together and manage waste together rather
than singly.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
So it's a collaborative approach, very collaborative approach.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Are you trying to convince people? Are you having what
I should say or rephrase that? Are you are you
convincing rural people that stuff doesn't exist in a forty
four gallon drummer a dead hole.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Now, when it comes to getting rid of stuff, that
is a challenge.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I mean we have been doing those things for many years,
and we all know what used to go in dead holes,
and we all know what used to go and what
people used to call dumps, you know, city dumps or
town dumps. We refer to them as transfer stations. Now
we only have one landfill in south and that's ab
Lime and they do a great job of capturing gas
(04:28):
and bits and pieces and generating electricity and it's amazing system.
So we don't actually dump waste any more at our
transfer stations. You know, we're getting trying to get people
to be better about what they put into the waste system,
splitting it into its components, you know, scrap metal, send
it to the scrap deal, get a bit of money
(04:49):
out of it. Aluminium cans are same plastics, you know,
recycling them cardboard, putting it back through the system again.
And if we can do that, we're going to save
some money on our waste minimization levy.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
So using the word dump is frowned upon almost.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Almost yeah, because it's an old connotation. You know, it's
an old what do we used to throw in the everything?
You know, And if we were to dig up old
landfills around Southland, I'm sure there'll be some wonderful things
found in the bottom of them, as we would find
in dead holes around Southland.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And on the other side of it as well though,
we're seeing a lot of people cray going around picking
up all those old cans and the likes of those
containers that contain chemicals from days gone past.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
So and if the message is getting.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Out there, definitely, especially in the rural community with the
egg recovery. And you've got CMC recycling out at pocate
Our as well, you know, collecting plastics and bits and
pieces too, So you know there are options out.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
There and the habits are changing for rural New Zealand
just on a whole day you talk about for sure.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, and markets requiring it, so you know, we've got
to be smarter about the way we do things.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
So there's money and rubbish.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Well i'd like to think so, but I haven't seen
it yet.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
We'll get this soon in later So just to reiterate again,
the yellow bin now is from next time it goes
out won't just be glass, but it's going to be.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Plastics, cardboard, card paper, paper yep. So your plastics one
too and five only you know there are some plastics
we can't recycle. So if you're doing some plumbing and
you've got an old piece of plastic pipe that you've
cut off an end, it's no good to go into
your recycling. It's going to go into your red bin unfortunately.
So yep, we can do those things and tins and cans.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
So recycling week. I see the posters up out here.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Train has been hot under the collar to keep everything
so we're aware of what's going on.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
So that's two weeks away.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yes, it is, yep, third of November. Start week, the
first collection of recycling. They will be the fifth that
so those that pick up on the Wednesday, so we'll
do the whole contract. Will be two red bins in
a week and two yellow bins in a week, and
then it will alternate into the next week. So you
have a red bin, yellow bin, red bin, yellow bin.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Right, so there's clarity around that. No good to know, Craig, Hey,
thanks for coming in. Hopefully the sun shines sooner than later.
So you brought your coat in the middle of the
June almost.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Day it is, and the forecast for tomorrow doesn't look
that flash either, Andy, So let's just hope it's not
as bad as they're expecting.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, let's just focus on the present. Hey, thanks for
coming in and clarifying things.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Thanks. Andy's been great talking.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Craig Saint Claire from the Gore District Council where he
is leading sustainability around waste management. Heah, the old forty
four gallon drum or the bun drum. I mean there
are other options there. Go and put some stuff at
the pekiki lines. They doing awesome jobs. They'll shout out
to the team beyond there doing fantastic work up next
before we finish up Warren Ross Farming at Way Mumu
Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
This is the muster Craig Sinclair of Gore District Council
here is lead to sustainability in waste management.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
We're talking about recycling.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
You may have noticed in the Gore Region in particular,
they've changed the way that we're going about doing the
rubbish pickup, which stems back to three, two or three
years ago now probably even longer. Craig's nodding, so I'm
not too far wrong. He'll fill this in on that shortly.
It Craig, good to catch up.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Good Andy, how are you or.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
In the studio.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'm looking outside and it's warmer in here that it
is out there. But that one issue that is affecting
a lot of people at the moment though, Craig has
been the recycling here in the Gore region being told
we can only put glass in a yellow bin. But
all of a sudden we've gone back to the old system.
Like Southern District Council enjoys what's changed.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Okay, So council decided earlier this year that would go
back to full recycling. So full recycling includes cardboard, your
plastics one too and five glass bottles are included as well,
and cans, alumineum cans and tin cans, so people will
be able to put them into the yellow bins again
and put them out on the curb side. That's going
(01:13):
to start on the week of the third of November,
but the first actual collection of recycling will be for
the North Gore area on the fifth of November and
then we'll go week about so one week will be
your red waste bin and then the next week will
be a yellow recycling bin.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
So why are we changed again?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Why have you gone away from just this glass approach
for the recycling.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Well, we are having to minimize as much waste as
we can. So a number of years ago the government
just put in a waste minimization levey which started off
at a low rate. It is now sixty five dollars
a ton that council has to pay in a levee
for every ton of waste that we send to land
for and Gore district sends around seven and a half
(01:58):
thousand ton of years. So if you do the maths
on that, it's quite a considerable amount of money we
can save if we can get people recycling better.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
So the reason that South and District Council has been
doing the recycling all the way through. What's the difference there.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I'm not sure exactly why Gore District pulled out of it,
but there was a decision of council, probably two councils ago,
that decided not to carry on with a full recycling.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
We're getting we're starting to see a little bit of change.
That's when it comes down.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
To exactly, we're going back to what we used to
do because it's more sustainable and we can save money
by taking waste out of the waste stream.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So as far as rural folk around the Gore region,
what change is there?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Not a lot for them. Pakki Lines will still be
doing what they do up at their factory up on
How can we drive there so you can drop your cardboards,
your milk bottles. They enjoy milk bottles because they're getting
a good price for them at the moment. Cans for
milk bottles, plastic milk bottles. Yeah, it's one of the
good commodities at the moment.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Why is that, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Recycling is a pretty fickle market, you know, and it's
up and down, and it seems to be something that's
paying its way at the moment. That and aluminium cans.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
So we can expect to see plastic milk bottles on
the stock.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Exchange maybe who knows Andy, So.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Okay, we look at the situation in general just regarding
rubbish just not for good for Southland. Is it in
a healthy state at the moment as much as it
can be as far as management.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
So we have waste Net which is a sheared service
of the three councils and waste Net is a means
of managing the contract for our general waste across south
and so we have one company at the moment that
does all that general waste, which is Waistcoat. They manage
all the contracts and it's a cheaper way for the
(03:45):
three councils to come together and manage waste together rather
than singly.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
So it's a collaborative approach, very collaborative approach.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Are you trying to convince people? Are you having what
I should say or rephrase that? Are you are you
convincing rural people that stuff doesn't exist in a forty
four gallon drummer a dead hole.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Now, when it comes to getting rid of stuff, that
is a challenge.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I mean we have been doing those things for many years,
and we all know what used to go in dead holes,
and we all know what used to go and what
people used to call dumps, you know, city dumps or
town dumps. We refer to them as transfer stations. Now
we only have one landfill in south and that's ab
Lime and they do a great job of capturing gas
(04:28):
and bits and pieces and generating electricity and it's amazing system.
So we don't actually dump waste any more at our
transfer stations. You know, we're getting trying to get people
to be better about what they put into the waste system,
splitting it into its components, you know, scrap metal, send
it to the scrap deal, get a bit of money
(04:49):
out of it. Aluminium cans are same plastics, you know,
recycling them cardboard, putting it back through the system again.
And if we can do that, we're going to save
some money on our waste minimization levy.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
So using the word dump is frowned upon almost.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Almost yeah, because it's an old connotation. You know, it's
an old what do we used to throw in the everything?
You know, And if we were to dig up old
landfills around Southland, I'm sure there'll be some wonderful things
found in the bottom of them, as we would find
in dead holes around Southland.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And on the other side of it as well though,
we're seeing a lot of people cray going around picking
up all those old cans and the likes of those
containers that contain chemicals from days gone past.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
So and if the message is getting.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Out there, definitely, especially in the rural community with the
egg recovery. And you've got CMC recycling out at pocate
Our as well, you know, collecting plastics and bits and
pieces too, So you know there are options out.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
There and the habits are changing for rural New Zealand
just on a whole day you talk about for sure.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, and markets requiring it, so you know, we've got
to be smarter about the way we do things.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
So there's money and rubbish.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Well i'd like to think so, but I haven't seen
it yet.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
We'll get this soon in later So just to reiterate again,
the yellow bin now is from next time it goes
out won't just be glass, but it's going to be.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Plastics, cardboard, card paper, paper yep. So your plastics one
too and five only you know there are some plastics
we can't recycle. So if you're doing some plumbing and
you've got an old piece of plastic pipe that you've
cut off an end, it's no good to go into
your recycling. It's going to go into your red bin unfortunately.
So yep, we can do those things and tins and cans.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
So recycling week. I see the posters up out here.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Train has been hot under the collar to keep everything
so we're aware of what's going on.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
So that's two weeks away.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yes, it is, yep, third of November. Start week, the
first collection of recycling. They will be the fifth that
so those that pick up on the Wednesday, so we'll
do the whole contract. Will be two red bins in
a week and two yellow bins in a week, and
then it will alternate into the next week. So you
have a red bin, yellow bin, red bin, yellow bin.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Right, so there's clarity around that. No good to know, Craig, Hey,
thanks for coming in. Hopefully the sun shines sooner than later.
So you brought your coat in the middle of the
June almost.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Day it is, and the forecast for tomorrow doesn't look
that flash either, Andy, So let's just hope it's not
as bad as they're expecting.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, let's just focus on the present. Hey, thanks for
coming in and clarifying things.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Thanks. Andy's been great talking.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Craig Saint Claire from the Gore District Council where he
is leading sustainability around waste management. Heah, the old forty
four gallon drum or the bun drum. I mean there
are other options there. Go and put some stuff at
the pekiki lines. They doing awesome jobs. They'll shout out
to the team beyond there doing fantastic work up next
before we finish up Warren Ross Farming at Way Mumu
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