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September 4, 2025 8 mins

Dave MacGregor looks at changes to fishing licences for this season.

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Thanks for joining us. This is a muster one hock.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
And now my name is Andy Mueller and our next
guess is Dave McGregor, his chair of Southland Fishing Game. Dave,
good afternoon. Firstly, you're on the farm and it's all
go this afternoon. How things be?

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yeah, I'm not too bad Andy, at the moment where
sort of having some shares come through reasonably often and
in the blue sky and the sun falling it so
but windy. But apart from that, it's not cold. It's
just youve got a sort of time you're on your
under go outside and not get wet unless you have
to take a jacket with you. And it's never fun
putting on the leggings and the jackets for twenty minutes

(00:45):
and taking them off again and then putting them back on.
But then minded is what it is, So let's not
you dead.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Grass covers are looking okay.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah, not that to be asked. Like I said, you know,
grass sort of grew all through the winter ex since
it was so mild. So grass is coming away and
you sort of put them into a panic and move
them on and you don't think grass has actually growing
until you sort of look through for days after you've
taken them out and you think the cup's coming away
in here. So it's quite good, Hey.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
You nuracy it come out that it came out this week, Dave,
regarding Karina Jordan's she moved away from being chief currently
chief executive for Fishing Games. She was due to move
on from that role, but she's been reappointed for another
twelve months and tell us a bit more about this.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
It's intriguing.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah, well she Kreena moved on to the Game Animal
Council and so yeah, now the Game Animal Council and
Fishing Game have done a deal of such for her
to share sort of both roles. There is quite a
lot of sort of complementary between our two organizations with
a lot of deer hunters and tar hunters that also shoot.

(01:49):
So yeah, and she's coming back for a twelve month
period and she's just going to concentrate on the high
level perform the fishing games going through. At the moment
I said, you know, we've had this reform now that's
been the biggest sort of change since we went from
the climonization side to the fishing games. So she's going

(02:09):
to be involved in the political side of that with
the Minister, And yeah, I think it's a good mood
considering she's been with us for three years so she
knows the ins and out, and she's very dedicated and
she's very driven in that sort of policy arena. So yeah,
I think it'll be a good mode.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
So how much reform are we talking about for the organization?

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Well, I said that the Minister has has made a
reasonable amount of reform to be honest, you know, putting
us under our own acts and then you know, trying
to centralize everything a bit more and get us all
done in the right direction. So it's it'd be a
reasonab amount of reform. And I think the time sit
praying for it is quite short, So I think it's

(02:49):
a good idea that Serena has come in and she'll
just be dealing with that and then Richie will be organized.
I will be dealing with the day to day business
as usual through fishing game to make sure all of
that side of it, you know, running smoothly. So for
a person to try and do both I think would
have been a very hard art. So I think it's
worked out quite good.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Of course, you're talking about Ritchie Cosgrove there, but I
suppose a concern could be is it a conflict of
interests working for both the organizations at once?

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Perhaps well, I.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Suppose there is that possibility, but I believe you should
probably have to talk screen and more about this. I
believe that both organizations are putting an over oversight in
regard to her to have a couple of people and
involved from both organizations on a panel as such to
sort of run through and go through whenever there is

(03:40):
some possible conflicts of interest. So I think you always
could be like anything, but I think the policies they're
putting in place and the steps they're putting in place
that should be mitigated to a large extent.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Part of this reform is it due to the stoyles
she had last year with South from Feds or this
year as well?

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Is that part of the reason that Minister Mega's come in.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Now? I think it's had a little bit of to
do with it. But like I said that, the reform
and restructures I've talked about for in fishing game for
ten twenty years, so you know it's always been there.
There was meetings with the previous minister, Minister Maclay about
this before the stead Farmer's self came along. So I said,

(04:25):
there's there's always been talk of reform. It's just everyone's
sort of always listened to the talk and Tory okay,
and then finally this time they've actually decided to do something.
So I think that sort of took a lot of
people by surprise how quick it was considering the last
ten six or so years. You know, there has been
talk of it, but I don't, like I said, it
definitely wasn't the our issue with sad farmers that created

(04:46):
this whole whole review. It was, but it was I'd
say it might have hastened it along a weave and such.
I think the Minister has already already said that in
one of his interviews that it was was not the
catalyst for it, but it maybe it's just moved it
along a little bit quicker than normally would have.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
So, how is a situation with yourself and South and Feeds.
We're about three weeks out for the opening of the
fishing season down here, what's the situation?

Speaker 3 (05:08):
To be honest, Actually, I haven't talked to Jason for
a while. There's sort of been nothing sort of flowing
around and I've just been doing my thing, and I
presume he's been or they've seemed to be having a
crack at green Peace and a few other things. So
you know, I've seems to have we we seem to
have fallen in the background. But no, I've always, like
said men Jason had a good relationship and I've still
be we do, but haven't actually had a conversation for

(05:30):
a while, so I do we probably do need to
get on the phone and have a chat and see
having to go.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, the green Peace situation was interesting though, and putting
that better up and Gore, did you think they were
going over the top by their antics as such?

Speaker 3 (05:45):
It's a hard one because, like I said, you know,
a banner as a banner, you know, I believe it
was just tied on and he could untie it. So
that's that's a tough one. What is you know, what
is protest and what is vandalism? All that. I wouldn't
have said it was vandalism when something just tied onto
the Steyn over top of the sign, but I said,
great Green Peaster sort of renounced it for doing things

(06:06):
like that, so I didn't really to take much notice
of you honest.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Dave, this is interesting.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
It seems as though there's been a really archaic rule
regarding fishing licenses, but there's been a correction regarding woman.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Explain this a bit more. It's interesting.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, well it's on the it's on the family license.
So the family license was with mum and dad and
the one, two, three, four, whatever the kids it was,
and you'd come, you'd get your family license to make
things a week bit more cheaper and easier and accessible,
and then also you know, time to get them and
then get out more often. So what the problem was
was the person who was the number one on it. Look,

(06:44):
normally the men, Yeah, the lady or the wife couldn't
go and take the kids fishing if the if the
that's the other partner wasn't there, which was a better Okay,
I suppose, you know, if on the farm side. If
you know, if I'm working on the farm and I
can't get off, and you know, and the wife and
the kids want to go down after school, you know
they couldn't because you know, it was deemed that they

(07:07):
didn't have the proper license to take the kids. So
now they've changed that. So yeah, license holder one or
license holder two has got the sole right to take
the kids fishing, so it makes things a wee bit easier.
And I suppose that it was a bit of an
archaic rule. So yeah, a couple of people were we're
looking at changing it. Dave Harris, one of our counselors,
was quite strong on the whole family license change, so

(07:28):
he sort of pushed forth. And then now it also
the second license holder can now actually vote in our elections.
Was supposed there's another good thing to get more people
engaged and hopefully at the end of it, get more
people out there fishing and get the kids involved in
a bit more. You know, if thead's to be busy
and can't get going and mum's got you know, a
couple of airs after school or any stage to go

(07:48):
down to the river and see if they can catch
a fish. So hopefully it'll it'll be a good move.
It's probably been long overdue, but yeah, sometimes these things
take some time.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
But why is it taking so long until twenty twenty
five for this rule to them ended.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Oh, I don't to be honest, I'm not so sure
why it's taken too long. Fishing game sometimes does seem
to something seemed to drag out. But yeah, like I said,
we probably need to take that on the chin, and
so we could have could have done this a lot
better as an organization. But I suppose these are the
things that the Minister is talking about, streamlining some things
and getting a few more and you know, a lot

(08:22):
easier and more user friendly. So it's happened now, So
I suppose that's that's the one good thing. But yeah,
it probably has taken too long, but worthy and now
so hopefully it'll run for it.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Catholic good only Dave, always appreciate your time, not a problem,
Thanks man, Dave McGregor.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
South and Fishing Game. This is the master up.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Next, we'll find out what the weather's doing from Vicago
this weekend for the south of that matter, so Duncan
from weather Watch, he joins us
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