November 27, 2025 • 8 mins
Don Morrison says that positive on-farm prices reflect a buoyant market.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is the master on Haka Nui everil of Vena's
the music. Just for our next guest, Don Morrison farming
at willow Bee Henderson and Alliance board director. How we
good afternoon? We catch he dropping off a few bales
at the wall. Saw were the sounds of it? Gee,
that's a rare thing to do these days.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
No, just cleaning up the wall shed. We had the
ram hog a cheering earlier on that's been sitting in
the shed and just a few freezer used or one
year used that we got away this week, showed them
two or three weeks ago. So just cleaning up the shed,
make it all look tidy.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Okay, The big question is what was the wool check?
What's it worth? A quila?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
At the moment, I've only dropped it off, Andy, but hey,
I'm anticipating from what I'm reading it's certainly looking better
than last year. Look look quite exciting around that sheep's face.
At the moment. I know wolves are still a pretty
pathetic prist compared to what it should be. But every
lifts a lift, and you know, so that wolve's moving
up and certainly you know what we've yet first draft
(01:07):
away on two days ago. So the so you know,
some good prices for those US and those lambs.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Andy, do you have confidence that the wall industry can
bounce back to where it needs to be? How are
you're is it just wishful thinking? Guest? These are we're
renaissance in the industry, But it's nothing like it should.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Be, right, Oh, nothing like it should be, Andy when
you look at the qualities of the product. Now, look,
I actually think the wall has got a really really
good future in that in that intermediate future, you know
whether it's going to be one year, two years, three years,
but I think with a lot of the things they're
doing with Wall, it's what we can actually expect really
solid returns in the future, turning it into completely different
(01:46):
uses than than carpets and jerseys. And that's the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And the big thing at the moment is the wall
check covers the sharing. That's the main thing for a
lot of people, because this hasn't happened for four or
five years even longer.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Right, Yeah, absolutely, and a little bit ironic. We've heard
in the sheet space for many years that you know,
once we get down to a critical mass that will
diminish our markets. When in fact, it's looking both in walls.
As you know, the list primarily an example of that
shortened supply recognition of that, and we're probably seeing it
in that in that red meat space as well.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Do you were touched on this before we go onto
the farmer? How we read meat sales or exports for
October up to eight hundred and twenty seven million dollars,
a twenty seven percent increase on this time last year,
with the average value of Kiwi sheet meat exports working
out to fourteen dollars thirty one a kg. Interesting figures, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Interesting figures, and we're certainly seeing that. And now you know,
the scheduled prices that we're all getting, you know, being
reflected and that you know, when I look back to
two years ago, probably my most challenging financial year ever,
went into last year with that trap spring, no optimism whatsoever,
and we look what happened last year was just that
list and you know, farm economics, and now we're starting
(02:57):
off really strong this year and I think a lot
of a lot of optimism in the sheep meat space.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Now you're normally sitting on the feence when it comes
to a price, but you're sounding a bit more chipper
about the situation, howie.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Oh, look, well I'll be positive when you can you
can get a view maybe two months out Andy, So
look the troublers, We've just got huge volatility in the world.
Who know what's going to happen with Ukraine. We just
don't know. But certainly for those I would say we're
heading for a really good season, and the prices are
looking good for those next two months anyway, But I
(03:30):
think you'd actually be silly to ever try and predict
with any accuracy forward two or three months after that.
It's a bit unknown.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Strong demand for Europe, in America, in Europe and America
for our product, but going down eight percent for China.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, well, look, China's China's a market that is effectively
just sitting. It's moving sideways and many ways you can
look at that as a positive because we're getting these
strong prices out of the US, strong demand out of
the US, strong demand out of uk and Europe, still
with a relatively depressed China market. So I think you
know what's sitting there is you know China one day
(04:08):
will come back. They've just they've just very I guess
pessimistic in their internal spending at the moment, and that's
reflected in their consumer attitude. So you know they're sitting there.
Potentially one day when they come back in, you know,
it might match something else that goes wrong. So there's
still a valuable market and you just got to watch
this space.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Are you hearing anything around a free trade agreement with
Indie your including red meat?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I haven't heard anything, Andy. I know they're working on it,
but that would be an incredible result if they can
get that. And I know this government came in and
said that was one thing they were going to put
in place in their first term. So let's hope that's
something they can deliver on.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Council amalgamations. The other thing that's been talked about quite
a bit recently, how we Rob Scott on the program yesterday.
He was a driving force behind this coming out around
twelve months ago around this situation as such. But you
think it's something we need to be weary of.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Uh not? No, I know. Look, I know locally they've
been looking at aggregating resources, I guess, or aggregating control.
My question is, you know, saving so we all in
our rates driven down? What cost does it come at?
You know, we've had a lot of work done on
environmental protection. The RIMA has been relaxed. So what who
(05:28):
who police? Is? What should happen in our environment? That's
one aspect And the other aspect is I I elected
members of environments health and based on their skill set?
Have we got the safe skill set reflected and our
and our municipality council? So you know, I guess a
(05:48):
little more lead in time or warning so that we
could actually have a man so you could put people
in there with a mandate. Did I elect? Are the
members of the gore or with this trialthul elected with
a mandate to also look after the environment? So I
think those are the challenges around the change, with the
offset being your lower costs, which we all want, so
(06:09):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, the lower costs. So getting all these elected officials
and meres for that matter, over two hundred around the
two hundred figure around the country put in these positions unchallenged.
You need the arguments there though, the weather, the wheat
and the chaff. It's got to be separated.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, absolutely, you know, and when we talk about things
in the environment, it's very much going to be like
councils marking their own homework. So where's the independent check
on some of the behaviors and some of the practices.
So that's what I would like to see a little more,
you know, a little more debate and conversation how that's
going to work.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Finally, how he's spent happening on the farm over the
past couple of weeks. Are in need of a little
bit of a drink for the grass?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, ronic, isn't it, Andy. We either don't want rain
or we do want rain. And you know that that
heats arrived. We wanted that heat, but those drying winds
have two Hey, look you've just got to be resilient
and plan a bit. We've we've got rid of the
early us already, so that's freed up a few hundred miles.
Took advantage of that good price on those on those hues.
(07:14):
So and doing the same singles next week, we'll be
taking a skin draft off the singles, and then the
twins the week after, and weaning the singles just before Christmas,
taking the commercial use all the all the multiple through
to after New Year. So trying to try to get
the money in the bank with the animals that are
big enough and just grow the othersl what else, plenty
(07:35):
of wheels turning, last of the fighter beat, going in
swedes going in this next week hopefully, but a first
on the barley, but a spraying on the fodder beat
and getting ready. It had a big week sorting rams
and we'll be starting ram selling in a big way
next week.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Andy, good on youa how we will let you get
home to get back to the hustle. Always appreciate your time.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Mate, Absolute pleasure Andy, and look forward to it.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Talk Morrison a boy bank all guns to the gun
will happening out on his runch. We're away able to
dip the next printed Helden, we have a catch up.
You're listening to the muster and you brought Hans.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
What a
This is the master on Haka Nui everil of Vena's
the music. Just for our next guest, Don Morrison farming
at willow Bee Henderson and Alliance board director. How we
good afternoon? We catch he dropping off a few bales
at the wall. Saw were the sounds of it? Gee,
that's a rare thing to do these days.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
No, just cleaning up the wall shed. We had the
ram hog a cheering earlier on that's been sitting in
the shed and just a few freezer used or one
year used that we got away this week, showed them
two or three weeks ago. So just cleaning up the shed,
make it all look tidy.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Okay, The big question is what was the wool check?
What's it worth? A quila?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
At the moment, I've only dropped it off, Andy, but hey,
I'm anticipating from what I'm reading it's certainly looking better
than last year. Look look quite exciting around that sheep's face.
At the moment. I know wolves are still a pretty
pathetic prist compared to what it should be. But every
lifts a lift, and you know, so that wolve's moving
up and certainly you know what we've yet first draft
(01:07):
away on two days ago. So the so you know,
some good prices for those US and those lambs.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Andy, do you have confidence that the wall industry can
bounce back to where it needs to be? How are
you're is it just wishful thinking? Guest? These are we're
renaissance in the industry, But it's nothing like it should.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Be, right, Oh, nothing like it should be, Andy when
you look at the qualities of the product. Now, look,
I actually think the wall has got a really really
good future in that in that intermediate future, you know
whether it's going to be one year, two years, three years,
but I think with a lot of the things they're
doing with Wall, it's what we can actually expect really
solid returns in the future, turning it into completely different
(01:46):
uses than than carpets and jerseys. And that's the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And the big thing at the moment is the wall
check covers the sharing. That's the main thing for a
lot of people, because this hasn't happened for four or
five years even longer.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Right, Yeah, absolutely, and a little bit ironic. We've heard
in the sheet space for many years that you know,
once we get down to a critical mass that will
diminish our markets. When in fact, it's looking both in walls.
As you know, the list primarily an example of that
shortened supply recognition of that, and we're probably seeing it
in that in that red meat space as well.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Do you were touched on this before we go onto
the farmer? How we read meat sales or exports for
October up to eight hundred and twenty seven million dollars,
a twenty seven percent increase on this time last year,
with the average value of Kiwi sheet meat exports working
out to fourteen dollars thirty one a kg. Interesting figures, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Interesting figures, and we're certainly seeing that. And now you know,
the scheduled prices that we're all getting, you know, being
reflected and that you know, when I look back to
two years ago, probably my most challenging financial year ever,
went into last year with that trap spring, no optimism whatsoever,
and we look what happened last year was just that
list and you know, farm economics, and now we're starting
(02:57):
off really strong this year and I think a lot
of a lot of optimism in the sheep meat space.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Now you're normally sitting on the feence when it comes
to a price, but you're sounding a bit more chipper
about the situation, howie.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Oh, look, well I'll be positive when you can you
can get a view maybe two months out Andy, So
look the troublers, We've just got huge volatility in the world.
Who know what's going to happen with Ukraine. We just
don't know. But certainly for those I would say we're
heading for a really good season, and the prices are
looking good for those next two months anyway, But I
(03:30):
think you'd actually be silly to ever try and predict
with any accuracy forward two or three months after that.
It's a bit unknown.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Strong demand for Europe, in America, in Europe and America
for our product, but going down eight percent for China.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, well, look, China's China's a market that is effectively
just sitting. It's moving sideways and many ways you can
look at that as a positive because we're getting these
strong prices out of the US, strong demand out of
the US, strong demand out of uk and Europe, still
with a relatively depressed China market. So I think you
know what's sitting there is you know China one day
(04:08):
will come back. They've just they've just very I guess
pessimistic in their internal spending at the moment, and that's
reflected in their consumer attitude. So you know they're sitting there.
Potentially one day when they come back in, you know,
it might match something else that goes wrong. So there's
still a valuable market and you just got to watch
this space.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Are you hearing anything around a free trade agreement with
Indie your including red meat?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I haven't heard anything, Andy. I know they're working on it,
but that would be an incredible result if they can
get that. And I know this government came in and
said that was one thing they were going to put
in place in their first term. So let's hope that's
something they can deliver on.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Council amalgamations. The other thing that's been talked about quite
a bit recently, how we Rob Scott on the program yesterday.
He was a driving force behind this coming out around
twelve months ago around this situation as such. But you
think it's something we need to be weary of.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Uh not? No, I know. Look, I know locally they've
been looking at aggregating resources, I guess, or aggregating control.
My question is, you know, saving so we all in
our rates driven down? What cost does it come at?
You know, we've had a lot of work done on
environmental protection. The RIMA has been relaxed. So what who
(05:28):
who police? Is? What should happen in our environment? That's
one aspect And the other aspect is I I elected
members of environments health and based on their skill set?
Have we got the safe skill set reflected and our
and our municipality council? So you know, I guess a
(05:48):
little more lead in time or warning so that we
could actually have a man so you could put people
in there with a mandate. Did I elect? Are the
members of the gore or with this trialthul elected with
a mandate to also look after the environment? So I
think those are the challenges around the change, with the
offset being your lower costs, which we all want, so
(06:09):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, the lower costs. So getting all these elected officials
and meres for that matter, over two hundred around the
two hundred figure around the country put in these positions unchallenged.
You need the arguments there though, the weather, the wheat
and the chaff. It's got to be separated.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, absolutely, you know, and when we talk about things
in the environment, it's very much going to be like
councils marking their own homework. So where's the independent check
on some of the behaviors and some of the practices.
So that's what I would like to see a little more,
you know, a little more debate and conversation how that's
going to work.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Finally, how he's spent happening on the farm over the
past couple of weeks. Are in need of a little
bit of a drink for the grass?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, ronic, isn't it, Andy. We either don't want rain
or we do want rain. And you know that that
heats arrived. We wanted that heat, but those drying winds
have two Hey, look you've just got to be resilient
and plan a bit. We've we've got rid of the
early us already, so that's freed up a few hundred miles.
Took advantage of that good price on those on those hues.
(07:14):
So and doing the same singles next week, we'll be
taking a skin draft off the singles, and then the
twins the week after, and weaning the singles just before Christmas,
taking the commercial use all the all the multiple through
to after New Year. So trying to try to get
the money in the bank with the animals that are
big enough and just grow the othersl what else, plenty
(07:35):
of wheels turning, last of the fighter beat, going in
swedes going in this next week hopefully, but a first
on the barley, but a spraying on the fodder beat
and getting ready. It had a big week sorting rams
and we'll be starting ram selling in a big way
next week.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Andy, good on youa how we will let you get
home to get back to the hustle. Always appreciate your time.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Mate, Absolute pleasure Andy, and look forward to it.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Talk Morrison a boy bank all guns to the gun
will happening out on his runch. We're away able to
dip the next printed Helden, we have a catch up.
You're listening to the muster and you brought Hans.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
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