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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This interview brought to you by Agriss into South Branches
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Don Morrison farms at Willow Bank and he is an
Alliance Sport director and joins us this afternoon with his
police sky in abundance, which is certainly a change from
twenty four hours ago. Howie, how are you?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, Andy, You're nice to have that blue sky again
and not quite so much mud on some of the
sweat and poder beat breaks. So yeah, no, well, I'm
truly welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
You'll be well through the breaks, now, are you.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yeah, We've yeah this. We've still got good feed left
the we're spreading everything out. The triplet's got spread out
on Monday. We did halt the twins yesterday, the other
half today, so they've been on fider beat up until now.
Singles will stay on till next Monday and then just
U Hobbits and Ram Hobbits still on it. But no,
the crop's been good, but we had a slight bit
of stress. We've as I said, the crops have been good,
(00:58):
but we must have had a ramblam got out somewhere.
So I've been leaving a few years on the on
the fidder beat, which hasn't been great in this weather.
It's you know, do you get enough of them that
you've got to take them all off or do you
just manage it and tetch them. So we've been able
to keep an eye on them. We haven't lost any lambs,
but it's just been a wee bit of stress with it.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
When you say there's been a few own up, how many.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Ah ten a day? It's not significant, but enough that
there was a ram lamb. Obviously there we didn't know about,
but there was nothing new this morning, so we we
must have got them out, but we just can't remember it.
So yeah, bed management there, I'll put my hand up,
Andy have.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
When you're supposed to start lambing proper. A few early's
going at the moment though obviously the ram lamb runs aside.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, we've got three or four hundred lemmy at the moment.
They've been lemming oh the last five or six days
and they're going really well. And everything else starts on
the twelve, so so yeah, we've got a good ten
days now for them to really just just add the
feed after coming up the crop and yeah, ready to go.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Plenty of grass ahead of you.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Oh there's enough, Andy, there's always You're always want more.
And you sort of sit there a week ago and
thinking I haven't got enough, but it's yeah, it's there
and it'll come.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Now a lion strepe, putting your alliance head on. Here
don the proposed merger with Dawn meets. What's the feedback
you've received. They'll be positive, but they'll be negative as well.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I had some really good discussion. I would say that
the majority of people by far that have spoken to
think it's a really good outcome. And I've had some
discussion with people who think that it's not a great outcome,
so are negative. And it's you know, and you respect
every view, and it's a matter of I guess, talking
everybody through what the process and the structure is going
(02:42):
to be. And I think that'll that'll be great, greatly
aided once we get our scheme book put out, which
is really an explanation of the whole thing, valuations process,
how it will look, governance, everything going forward, and you know,
an independent report and as I say, totally independent. Then
on the value of this proposal, so I think it's
(03:03):
a bit of an education process. And I know some
of the ones that that might be a bit negative,
once they actually see some of the pluses, you know,
it might turn them around. You know. It's interesting rural me.
Any media people like the sensation lies and I tend
to be reading reports from the negatives, when, as I say,
the big majority of peticle that I talk to a positive.
(03:25):
So so you know, interesting, interesting what you read?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well, you never get down on the muster. Hell, are
you going to get the facts?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
You know, that absolute balance? And I would and I
would hope that Andrew. So you know, we'll look forward
to some of those positive interviews you've got lined up.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
But when people do say, then against what's going through,
what's the arrestion? Now? I mean some people are arguing,
why not sell the whole company off and just go
from there?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Well, if you're willing to buy a willing seller, Andy,
So if you're talking selling the whole company off, you've
got to have you've got to have someone that's brought
a proposal and to do that, and that may not
have been as attractive as you know, you go with
as a as a board, as directors, you've got a
responsibility to deliver the strongest proposal and the and the
(04:11):
best ones for company value on the value of your shareholders,
and this was clearly what we've presented. So you know,
speculation is really you know, not a not a great
alternative and the counterfactual to what we presented is very unattractive. Andy,
So it's a matter for people to understand that, yeah
we've they think we've lost elements of the co op,
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but we're actually going to have a bigger, better, more capitalized,
highly resourced. Alliance was still a cooperative element in it
and partnering with some really successful operators in the in
the Northern Hemisphere market.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
They're a successful operator. But your hearing of resistance from
the Irish farming community arguing it's just more products going
on these supermarket shells that their producers have got to
contend with as well.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, look, it's interesting India, I would say, once again,
that's an education, you know, it's a matter of education
and for their farmers to understand what they's brings. So Alliance,
that's we carry on in the same structure, the same market,
so it's not as though we're suddenly swinging a whole
lot of extra products into the UK market. But what
it does for us in Doorn Meats is gives the
(05:20):
opportunity to supply grass feed lamp fifty two weeks onto
the supermarket shelves. So I think whenever any farmers can
start understanding that effective of their advantage and look, it
opens up opportunities for Doorn Meat through some of the lions,
you know, opportunities in America, China, India. I think it's
an education process and what I've observed through this end
(05:43):
you'll get a negative on either side, and whatever the proposals,
that's a matter of you know, understanding it and then
making a decision. Still we set those negative views, but
it's just a matter of of walking through and understanding
what people's frustration is.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
A few people saying as well, the meetings could have
perhaps been a little a couple of weeks later than
what they are given there at the end of September,
or is it a case of if we just had
to pick a date and go from there.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
No, very much the structure work with Andy, so you know,
this is all about seasonal finance and the appetite of
the banks to support the co op and so you
are balances the end of September, so we'll have finance
in place caring forward. But you've got to go through
that process. That's what's the bank for signal. They want
Alliance to take responsibility for their work capital and that's
(06:34):
what this capital race process is all about.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Okay, how we would talk about a rugue, but you
know that's your passion. If you had to choose only
one team to win out of the Stags against Canterbury
for the Shield or the your Backs against spring Bocks.
Your Blacks haven't lost there in fifty games dating back
to nineteen ninety four. I think it's either the thirty
or the forties since the Box of one at Eden Park.
Which game would you rather we won?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yeah, that's a tough call, Andy, but I'd go with
the Stags. You know, those boys say they made that,
they made their history on Sunday and now they've got
a chance to even make it bigger. So you know,
we we finished the landing. BD early came in and
watched that and it was just an awesome performance. And
they go out and play like that with that heart
they've got that they've got a really good chance of
(07:17):
of delivering against Canterbury.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
What about the Ill Blacks, Howie? What do they need
to do there? Is it a case of perhaps they
just haven't evolved the people thought they would under Scott Robertson.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Uh, Andy, I'll be consistent selection decisions. I think I
think he's given too much loyalty to those, to a
number of players and combinations that went performing. And I'll
tell you again, Andy doesn't run up the line and
Joy Barrett doesn't. There's no second five cents of combination.
So there's been players there that they could have put
into those combinations. I've been persisted with three Cojani on
(07:52):
the wing when he hasn't really been no selection Andy
and h and actually building up those combinations.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
So would you start at ten? Would you go d
Mac at ten? Orould you go out the square? Outside
the square?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
A bit o? Absolutely go to d Mac at ten?
And I know he might have a tractor and he's
he's uh, he runs at the line, Andy, he runs
at the line and he create That's what you've got
to do in this game, when when those defensive lines
are so structured, you've got to actually change the pattern
or even you know, something like that thatself and then
we tip over, tip over the back line, you know,
(08:24):
run onto it, not the aimless you know, high kicks
that we give and where we're really inferior competing in
the air against against France. We know how good the
spring Bots are at it, so you know, wipe assist
with that plan.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Well, the box is just going to kick the dating
the living daylight's off that rugby ball. It's just going
to be cant can't, can't cack and the agement will
come into it. One done. A few people have said this,
how we ban the box cack from the from the
base of the scramb orro a mall in certain instances,
and it's hard to disagree.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, you know that that's unfortunately what the games evolved into. Andy,
So you know, the the laws are what they are
at the moment. We're not going to change that. But
I think you've got it. You've got to play to
where your strengths are. And you know that game against
Argentina last week, we got so little good ball and
what percent of it did we then kick away and
weren't there to compete with. It was just seened a
(09:16):
crazy game plan. Good on you.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
How we always appreciate your time on the muster.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Oh God, look forward to next. I'm Andy.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Dyl Morrison, farming at Willowbank and the Lion Spoort Director
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