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Andy Muir talks to James Edgar, Matt Ward, Braden Smith, Keely Buckingham, Lyn Berry and Warwick Howie.

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Good afternoon, and welcome to the muster on Hakanui. I'm andy.
You're here until two o'clock thanks to a team of Petersheneix.
Welcome along for the first of October. After what has
been a rather cooler morning down here in the Deep South,
Snow's fallen in various places. There were flurries and gore overnight.
A little bit of snow was frozen on the front
deck this morning, although it seems to have sorted itself

(00:35):
out to some degree, but it's still hardly tropical by
any means. We'll talk whether shortly by music for a
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Northern South and seven point eight, Reveton ninety eight point one,
Tide seven point three, Winton seven and Woodland's seven point four.
James Egga farms at Male Flat and starts off the
must of this afternoon, followed up by Matt Wood. We
spoke to Matt a we while ago who was telling
some interesting figures around the Chinese sheep and the amount

(01:41):
of sheep over there as such regarding the wool industry
and the correlation to New Zealand. But look, the wool industry,
it's a little bit of a high after the sale
and Christius last week. So we talked to Matt and
saying perhaps are we going to see a bit of
a change of mindset after that or was it just
a bit of a blip on the radar. Time will
tell on Matt Ayden Smith, Olan Mount Mclaim plus more

(02:02):
as a chat, as does Kelly Bucking Out of Derry
and z and lin Berry as well. She's coming in
studio later on in the hour. Warrack Cowie from PGG
Wrights and gives us a rundown from the Barkluther Saleyards.
Then we'll start the hour with James Egger. This is
the muster until two o'clock thanks to better genetics Hardoch.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
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Speaker 1 (02:37):
James Ecker Farms at mar Flat joins us once again. James,
good afternoon. You'll be pleased to see the back of September.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
YEP, that's one way to put it.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
It was better than last year. I think for us overall,
probably had less grass grass growth. We probably were we
once bitten twice shore. I think we sort of set
the farm up for worst case scenario after last year,
and we're getting to now and we're pretty pleased that
we've done that, because, Yeah, I don't know it was
all that much kinder? Was it?

Speaker 1 (03:09):
As far as rainfall grass growth? What was it like
compared to twelve months ago?

Speaker 5 (03:13):
I think it's been a lot colder, definitely a lot
lower grass now. Certainly started off with great hopes, but
we never grow that much covered mile fact that early
because it was quite nice in the winter. Yeah, it's
sort of been. I don't know if it's unusual usual
what it's sort of been, but it's it's been a
bit of a test and you've had to work hard,

(03:36):
but you've been well rewarded for when you have worked hard,
I guess, is what i'd call it.

Speaker 6 (03:41):
We put on our sa quite early and seen a
massive difference in the pasture covers well not they cover
so much as a color, and how it's holding on
to the set stocking from the ground that didn't.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
Get any It hasn't even bothered growing yet, so it's
not all that ideal. Yeah, we're just about to see
the heap of kettle up from Tepanoi back up to
Mile Flat. So yeah, October really needs to start growing.
Would be quite nice, wouldn't it.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
So you're through the lambing season pretty much now, well
how fast? How much would you have left to go?

Speaker 7 (04:14):
Well?

Speaker 5 (04:14):
Yeah, we start on about the twentieth of August on
Tappanoi and we're just about finished down there and we'll
finish the last lambs about the tenth of November is
when we sort of finish up the last of the
hogged lambs, so we're probably halfway I guess as where
we'll be. But as a team, we sort of share
the load and you know, everyone's we do a lot
less physical lemming. I guess at mile flat it's gonna

(04:36):
work hard, but yeah, just make sure trying to be
mindful that everyone gets a break and we share the
workload round and everyone's in good spirits and yeah, quite
exciting for the year going ahead.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
I think that's a hell of a stretch for lambing.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
Yeah, I know we get everything, but yeah, just the
way it sort of works, we probably pushed the hogits.
That's probably early enough to lemb the Hoggits in terms
of when we start laming them, which will be fifth
of October. We shall get our first lambs there, but
we too is not to go any later than that
in terms of when we make them and then lamb them,
just just for basically for all of us that have

(05:11):
to work, because you're mentally about finished with lambing for
tom November hits.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Well, that's something that's really interesting for me. Anyway, when
you're looking at a Hoggitt lambing, you've gone through the
stretch of September as such. Mentally, are you mounted when
it comes to say another four or five hundred hoggits
that you've got a lamb?

Speaker 5 (05:30):
I think it's worth when you're a one man band
actually in my opinion. So you know, we started very
small when we first started out, but now now with
that with Holly and Matt and I, we just really
make sure we're like the dairy guys in carving, make
sure we give structured days off and just try and
work as a team so nobody's left doing lambing for

(05:50):
weeks and at an end, you know there's always leafy
turn up around to spray out.

Speaker 8 (05:54):
Or other jobs doing attractors.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
Are you just try and yes, swap all the jobs around.
It keeps you fresh and nobody's getting pumped away.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
So you've all managed had a little bit of time
off though. That's what it comes down to, Yeah, I think.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
So, yeah, you're just making sure as a team we're
into it, because you get when you're tired, you don't
make good decisions, and I think that's something that sticks
out the more older I get. I guess, I guess Andy,
when you're in your twenties, you're just wanting to go
hard every day, but sometimes you've got to work a
bit harder. Not don't hard and not harder, don't.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
You sounds like social life?

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Oh? I know, quite good.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
No, it is the year like the fruit of all
your whole year's worth of labor, isn't it? Especially where
we are. I always say the lemming's basically how hard
you've worked in the winter at mile Flat you just
lose weight on sheets so easily. So now you slick
your rams and you put your ams out, and then
you get to scanning time, and you get sort of
a report card at scanning time, and then you set

(06:55):
stock you use and you get a bit of a
report card on how heavy or light they are in
terms of conditions and your past to cover. And then
it's about tailing time, isn't It's quite nice to see
the lambs running around that your bred.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Because we talked about mindset last time I spoke to you.
When we get to this time of year and the
weather's still being in, if let's be honest, you just
the end is night. You can see light at the
end of the tunnel as such, so you can start
planning a few trips and just a couple of jaunts
of farm. If you've got to go to town, go and
do it, and just a job that can hold off
to tomorrow. You getting to the time where you can

(07:27):
perhaps do that.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
Absolutely, Actually, something I've probably changed this year we shout
out there to jest at the shred Shed Andy, is
that I started going to the gym. And actually I've
found that greatly beneficial. To be fair, I've just on
the whole mindset thing and you go down there and
you forget about things and throw some tin round and yeah,

(07:51):
I think it keeps you fresher for farming, to be fair.
So just to be shot it there. I think she's
doing a great, great job for the community what she
does there, and it's quite impress effect.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Are you a morning gym bunny or an evening bunny?

Speaker 4 (08:03):
Ah?

Speaker 5 (08:03):
Been evening. It just depends when I can get there,
but during you know, at the busy time. But yeah,
the mainly at night to be fair. The morning by
the time I drive down there, I don't want to
lose any more sleep than on what you already do
at leaming time.

Speaker 8 (08:19):
Do you.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
It's incredible how many people are at the gym's here
and go at five.

Speaker 8 (08:23):
Am Yeah, look, it's great.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
It's seriously impressive. You're sort of you think it's not
you know, you think you're going to be farming fit,
but I couldn't believe how my range of mobility, you know,
is a lot less than you think and see a
lot of it's just the stretching And yeah, no, I've
enjoyed that and it would be something i'd recommend to
other farmers out there. It's good just to get away
and get off farm and do something a bit different.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Speaking about this with Bryce McKenzie off Fair the other
day about if you have the ability to play sport,
just keep going as long as you can because one
day you're not going to be able to And like
you say, it's all about having a work life balance.
You can never underestimate, right.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
No, absolutely, it makes you more passionate about what you
do too, because let's be honest, as farmers, we're all
that passionate about what what we do and that's why
we do it. But you know, when you can get
away and think about something else for but it just
leaves you more kind to get back and get back
into it.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
In my opinion, So when do you start tailing in that.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
We entered a day last week and then we're hoping
to have another day on Friday down here.

Speaker 8 (09:23):
Just we once because yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
The way that hasn't been super conducive to Big Day's tailing,
but chipping away. I wouldn't say we when have seen
any records, but equally it's not not going to be
a disastrous main things to get about of heat here,
it's someteill be nice.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Good on you, James, all the best this afternoon. We
always appreciate your time on the Master.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
Cheer, said ending.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
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by L. A. Guthrie. It's a ripper that next Russell Drummond.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
I'll be gone hundred.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
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Welcome back to the Master, Garth Brooks. It is a
country Wednesday for no other reason than Wednesday night country
of course. This evening Sheryl Anderson hosting things thanks to
Regional Ford from seven o'clock three hours of country music.

(10:30):
Our next guest Matt Wood Farming at Morton Mainz. May
or may not be a fan of Garth. Good afternoon,
met Are you a fan?

Speaker 8 (10:38):
You're great and yeah, I am a fan.

Speaker 7 (10:40):
Actually that song does pop up on my Spotify playlist
every down Again.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Are you more of a country you're a Western fan,
would you say, oh.

Speaker 7 (10:49):
I probably, I'd probably go more country than wisdon to
be fair.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
The only two genres of music that exists for a
lot of people. But look, it's nifty outside today, Matt,
how are you faring there?

Speaker 8 (11:03):
Yeah, it's a little bit fresher gains this morning, Netty.
So we've had a few snowflowries.

Speaker 7 (11:07):
Come through, and but I know there'll be a lot
more people worse offt than us.

Speaker 8 (11:11):
That's for sure.

Speaker 7 (11:12):
All the words saw that we've only got fifty odd
Jews left a lamb and I'll get through in the
thick of it. They copped a little bit of a
hiding this morning. But but now you look around and
got those later lemming that later country they will be
getting a field hide and sort of feel for them
on days lot today because you can't really do a
hell of a lot about it, can you.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Well, the snow flurries this morning, what do we have here?
And Gored it was crazy about Quarterpas State. We had
a hell of a snowstorm last for about ninety seconds.
Then the sun came out in blue sky and probably
warmed up about seven or eight degrees. Just overcast at
the moment. I think it's just mother nature telling us
that she's going to give us a kick in the
hours every now and then.

Speaker 7 (11:48):
Yeah, yeah, and that's and lo you think a few
days ago, well last week, how we're getting those real
nice days and get some good winds, drivery thing out again,
and then yeah, get a morning like that. Shit, Well,
we're not really not really turning in a corner either.
We just need the heat to keep going a like
grass is slow and we're just sort of just plodding along.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Really as far as you've grass covers, though they would
have taken a check. Are you holding on not too
badly or things considered?

Speaker 7 (12:17):
Yeah, we're holding on not too bad. I always sort
of these a couple of weeks just after leading around
that tailing time where I came away even of a
pinch period just trying to can I sit stock everything,
so try mob everything up for tailing and then be
bouncing using lambs around to get enough grass in front
of them all sort of Yeah, they're sort of shifting
onto not much, but they're looking at the woodlands past

(12:39):
pasture growth, like we're worse off this time at the
moment than we were this time last year, and we're half.

Speaker 8 (12:46):
Is what we were the year before.

Speaker 7 (12:48):
So it sort of paints the picture of yeah, like
the sun might be out, but we're still just just
slow enough really and last year that was as bad
as it's probably been.

Speaker 8 (12:57):
So yeah, sort of just need.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
That just hate really, So how would you compare it
to say, twelve twelve months ago. I'm asking quite a
few people that this week, because unfortunately it seems to
be a bit of a correlation.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (13:10):
Yeah, I reckon started last week all said we were
on par with last year, and then you have a
good have a good enough week, and we start drying
out and start to see the grass that's freshen up,
and then you get date like today and I'd say
we're still being on par with last year in my opinion.
I don't know if we've had the same death like

(13:30):
lamb deaths wise, we've never had any of those like
big long storms come through. But Jesus were like, yeah,
everything's just sitting there and anything that does have a
bit of cover on it's all dirty grass and it's yeah,
but it'll grow one day.

Speaker 8 (13:46):
I'll grow one day.

Speaker 7 (13:47):
Then we'll be sitting here wondering what the hell doing
with all.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
The grass got ourselves and they will pay in Interesting
last week as well, Matt, and I remember this first time,
the first time I spoke to you on the muster
ractually you talked about China and the wall situation there
with the one hundred and eighty million US in the
flock there, and we look at New Zealand and you've
seemed pretty cynical about the wool situation. But interesting times

(14:11):
last week how the South Island price update going up
forty six cents, which was they're talking about a generational
wool sale.

Speaker 7 (14:21):
Yeah, promising at promising, it's good. I'm here.

Speaker 8 (14:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (14:26):
I don't know if I'm cynical about the warm as
passionate as about crossbreed wall as the next person.

Speaker 8 (14:30):
You'll never see me with the shedding sheet in my life.

Speaker 7 (14:33):
But it was the one guy's opinion that sort of
stuck with me because we hold a lot of hold
a lot of weight putting a wool into China like that,
and when he's saying that there's no future for it,
sort of makes you sit back and think like, are
we flogging a dead horse? But you get a sail
all last week and God, there's nothing but promising, is it?

Speaker 4 (14:52):
Like?

Speaker 8 (14:52):
As long as they can sit.

Speaker 7 (14:53):
There for all these guys that are summer sharing yous
in a few months time, and if they can jump
on that bandwagon, it'll be pretty PROMI sing, won't it.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
So what do you do, Matt? Are you a six
months man or do you just go twelve months for
your sharing?

Speaker 7 (15:05):
I'm eight months?

Speaker 8 (15:08):
So yeah, So my us got shorn.

Speaker 7 (15:10):
In the start of June and then they'll get shorn
again in March pre tap and then get shorn again
with lembs and foot on them.

Speaker 8 (15:19):
Just so I don't I.

Speaker 7 (15:20):
Don't like them being twelve months well when it will
just loses its quality and its color. And in six
months here I'd love to, but it's just yeah, it's
just tricky enough trying.

Speaker 8 (15:32):
To get them dry in the winter.

Speaker 7 (15:34):
I'd only rather I'd rather try to get them dry
once every two winters than trying to get them dry
every winter. But it works wellt like that, getting them
short at the start of June before they go and
crop here and then they sing through winter carry condition
and you can check. Like it's just so much easier
to keep keeping an eye on their condition and.

Speaker 8 (15:52):
Use that SEMs to work. Seems to work pretty well
for me.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Well, the next South Island sale date is on the ninth,
so what I was the first, So towards the end
of next week, that'll be the proof in the pudding there.

Speaker 7 (16:03):
Yeah, yeah, hopefully it's just not a blip on the
radar and it can carry on carry on like that,
because sure, yeah, it would be nice. It would be
nice to be getting more than just paying for a
sharing bill. Would be nice to get a wee bit
of cream on top, wouldn't it.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah? Do you sell your egs or are they a
buy product? To end up in the roads around the
roses in the dead.

Speaker 7 (16:21):
They end up there's actually a big pole of them
sitting outside, and they end up in the Viga garden
and they end up all over. The show took them
on to crop paddocks and work them in, and I
remember as a kid going they had and turning diggs
over on the hay trailer and it was there a change,
taking them into tisbree there and selling dried up egs,
but no I don't have I don't have a hand

(16:43):
for you that would do it for me.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Now, you don't remember the giddy heights of plucking sheep
for pocket money?

Speaker 7 (16:49):
Yeah, I uh not as a kid. I remember my
first my first job when I went up to rein fairly.
We had to pluck pluck sheet and that was like, well,
was still not worth very much. I don't know with
a yeah why that was the case, but I think
that was testing.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
I think they were testing your internal fortitude.

Speaker 8 (17:10):
Matt, Yeah, yeah, And there's a sort of doe.

Speaker 7 (17:12):
You don't you can't say no, You just gotta hibble
at it. But it's definitely you look big now and
it's like, what the hell were we up to?

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Hey? Just finally, very quickly. The Stags an an interesting
thought given to me the other day. Would you rather
South and Stays a middle of the pack team and
they're just you know, six wins in a year on
the verge of the quarters or makes the quarters then
goes out, or would you rather a season like this?
So far they've had three wins, possibly a fourth tomorrow
night against Tarbor. You win the Renfreity Shield for a week,

(17:42):
but then you can see fifty points three or four
weeks in a row. It sounds like a daft dream,
but it's South and Ragby in twenty twenty five. Which
would you rather have?

Speaker 8 (17:50):
Oh that's a very good question.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
It's a horrible question, really, yeah it is.

Speaker 7 (17:56):
Yeah, I quite like that middle of the pack. I
think I think winning games that you really should be
winning would be the key. Like that ran fairly shield
that was that was an unreal performance and even the
weeks leading up to it like they're playing good footy,
but now it's just yeah, it's pretty hard guard. Are

(18:17):
we understand how they go against North Harbor this weekend?
And I'm slily but angry at a Targo for not
losing the Shield against them because it would have been
nice ever another week challenge. But yeah, we're interesting because
I reckon North Harbor will be up for it too.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Well, you put this in your calendar for next year
stag Day because the Targo's got in the gate. I
think they may have North Otago who's requested a challenge
pre season, the Heartland competition winners. But then I reckon
we'll be game on for stag Day first round for
soyth Bar that'll be pressed by the heads of South
and Stadium.

Speaker 7 (18:46):
I'd say, yeah, good, that good.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
We'll be hanging out for that absolutely and hopefully they
might have stoped snowing by their Matt always good to
chat mate, all the best out there.

Speaker 8 (18:57):
Eh yeah, no, good man, Andy, thank you for that.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
What Matt Ward of Morton, Maine. So this is the
Muster Braden Smith of melt McLain plus more. We have
a chat next, may.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
You do?

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Do you do? Do you do? Oh?

Speaker 5 (19:19):
There is a girl wearing nothing but a smile, that's all.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
And the picture on the billboard in the bill.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Welcome back to the Muster. A country theme today. That
song there Girl on the billboard by Dale Reeves. As
we catch up with Braden Smith out of Mellet McClain
plus more based right here in Gore Braiden. Good afternoon,
How are you not too bad? Quite a few positives
going on in the rural space at the moment, though,
But firstly we'll start with this a reminder around the
first provisional tax payment for the may balance.

Speaker 8 (19:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (19:49):
So look, it can be easy to forget, particularly for
because it's a lot about dairy clients and they've just
got through carving. They're just getting back into routine. But yeah,
on the twenty eighth this month, we have our first
provisional tax payment, and for a lot of farmers this
year that's had a bit of a lift because we've

(20:09):
had a fairly strong last season the dairy. So yeah,
it's just a good time to remind yourself that we
do have one of those first payments coming up and
just making sure we've got something put away to cover
that one off. There will be a little bit over
the next month as well, because we will have that

(20:29):
We have a number of journevalance states down here as well,
some people that are converted from sheep and beef and
years gone by, and there'll be a few sheep and
beef guys that have been out of the regime for
world will be coming back in. So yeah, just we
remind her at the end of end of landing and
carving that we do have to get that business as usual.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
But I suppose that's a positive about paying tax that
means you're making money.

Speaker 9 (20:54):
Yes, yes, no, Any time that we're looking at texts
and how to manage that, it's always a good sign
for the economy and it means that their acroceptor is
tacking along just nicely.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Pretty much getty heights for the sheep and beef sector.
But while we're talking about dairy and braid and look
the Fonterra result. Ten dollars sixteen is going to be
the milk payout, the dividend of fifty seven cents per year,
and of course this proposed capital return of two dollars
per yere. This is a really good news story if
it gets ratified.

Speaker 9 (21:27):
Yeah, So look, I don't think there'll be too many
people in that volunteer space that aren't going to vote
for this. Everybody's been pretty happy with the returns we've
been getting, and if there's capital that's being returned from
the sale, I think everybody will be pretty happy to
see some of that make their way to their back
pocket where it's come to us. You know, we're having

(21:51):
a lot more conversations this year. We've had a really
strong past season and everybody's trying to think about what
maybe that next step is. There's been you know, there's
been a lot of discussions around deep repayment, particularly with
these wet couple of springs we've had. We've had a
number of people talking about putting some money into infrastructure

(22:11):
like feet pads or wintering varns or something of the
like to help try and stabilize their business against some
of these these weather swings. Some people are even looking
at more farms or extra farms, which is always positive.
You know, some of these guys are getting able to

(22:32):
expend a lot more than they've been able to over time.
And the other topic that has come up to has
been a little bit off farm investment, which is always
an interesting topic. You people wanting to spread their spread
the risk a little bit, so conversations around you know,
the likes of commercial property or residential property or something like.

(22:57):
You know your craigs or your foresyth bar and your
in your investments and portfolios and the like. It's a
really positive time to be a business advisor when all
these conversations are coming up, because it means we're in
a really good space.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Off farm investment, though, makes a lot of sense when
you think about it.

Speaker 9 (23:15):
Yes, yes, it's a really I think it's a really
important tool, particularly in this day and age when farm
values and stuff are quite big, and you know, we've
got to think about in farming, in agriculture, there's an
entry point but there's also in lay life there's going
to be some sort of exit point, whether that be

(23:35):
not necessarily retiring, but you know the next generation coming through,
or we you want to retire, or were you want
to go, because that doesn't always necessarily constitute looking at
dairy cows at your front window. So off farm investment
is a very important point, and it's also just a
good investment strategy to spread your risk a little bit.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
And of course succession planning is something that anyone and
everyone has said to go through in a farming context,
and more often than not they could write a thesis
on how it all went. But like you say, it's
a great chance just to look ahead, especially for your
mum and dad or whoever the farm owners are, and
just to solidify their future too.

Speaker 9 (24:14):
Yes, And I mean, look the Southland agri sector at
the moment in particular is really really strong. You know. Look,
I'm not saying it's perfect, but we've had had a
good year in cheap and beef and and that's shaping
up to continue. We've got some really strong prices coming
through for those for those lands and that and that
beef market and again same with dairy you know, we're

(24:38):
we're on a high at the moment. And if there's
one thing that we've learned over our time and accounting
is that nobody ever wants to exit when when the
market is in a lull. So if that is something
that people have been considering, now is a really good
time to think about you know, is it time for
me to take that next step? Or you know, where
where do I want to go? How do I want

(24:59):
to want to wind back a little bit, or it's
the next generation getting ready to take the leap and
you know we're here to help you with that. There's
there's a lot of different ways to go about it,
and certainly no two succession teams are the same. But yeah,
whenever the market's in good shape, it's a really good
time to start thinking about all is this Is this
a good time for me to pass this on to

(25:21):
the next the next next person related or not.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
It's a good way to look at it from a
shave and beef perspective as well. Because you talked about
the prices being exceptional, I think that the best have
ever been.

Speaker 9 (25:33):
Yeah, or certainly the best that I've ever seen in
my time. Admitably, there's probably a few other faces around
here that have seen a few more ups and downs,
but as far as positioning in my dur any years
around here, I've seen a few ups and downs and
at the moment is a really positive, positive environment and

(25:56):
the forecasts are looking pretty good.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
If anybody wants to get in touch with me to
claim plus more talk about options, what's the best way
to get in touch?

Speaker 9 (26:05):
Look easiest ways to just pick up the phone and
give us a call at Core Offices three two eight
seven seven. We've got a team of about seventy years
between the Cargo office and the Core office and a
number of different advisors here. So if either that or
by the website, if you just look up plus more

(26:26):
dot code or NZ, you can find either the end
of Cargo office or the Core office and there's a
contact form on there that can help you get in
touch with any of us and we can have a chat.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Good on your Braiden, and next time we chat that
that grass level is going to be matching the prices
we're seeing. Always good to catch up.

Speaker 9 (26:41):
Thanks Andy.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Wow, Braiden Smith out of Mount mcclaim plus more Keerry
backing and we catch up next with Deiry and z
then before the end of the yellur Lynberry.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
In if you know Me, put some.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Good shady and jem run, just you and me and
a drug while like a Califoni came.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
We've been breaking if you know.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
The Welcome back to the muster on Hakanui has joined
in studio by Keeley Buckingham, bopping away there to a
bit of marshmallow. Good afternoon, your head looks like a marshmallow.
You're pretty much wrapped up.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
I am.

Speaker 10 (27:25):
I've been out and about this morning looking at the wetlands,
so I needed to be rugged up after a few
weeks of being inside.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yeah, just a towel of a tape. Look. Darians said,
everything's been pretty what's it been like lately for you guys.

Speaker 10 (27:38):
Well, I've actually been away for the last three weeks.
But I think generally, apart from but of slow growth,
people are pretty happy with how things a gun carving
seems to have gone along pretty quickly. For a lot
of people talking to a few years today, no one
had any big qualms over the last you know, for

(27:58):
the how the last two months have gone. Yeah, pretty
happy out there.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Two months. It's crazy to think that's how long since
We're talking about this whole carving set up and all
of a sudden it's all about mating.

Speaker 10 (28:10):
Yeah, yeah, definitely where you know most people used to
say cracking into their second round, all part you know,
well through it, getting through it. So yeah, which is
just crazy to.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Think, right. Events. What's happening?

Speaker 10 (28:22):
Events? We're so excited. So we are back on after
I guess we didn't have any events since the end
of June started July, so we were pumped to be
back out on the road with events. So firstly next
week as our first round of smaller events. So we've
got some discussion groups happening. We've got the East Jerden

(28:43):
Discussion Group up at JERD and Jess McKenzie's just out
of way Kuiki there happening on the eighth. And then
the day before that, actually a full season once a
day group happening at Fred Palett's, So Nathan's leading that one.
So they that group hasn't been run for a week while,
but they are pretty excited to get back together. So

(29:04):
if anyone is full season once a Day and Nathan
hasn't been in touch with you, check out the website
for more details on that one and then the following
week we have partnered with Fontierra in light of the
Insights reports being released, and we have got two events
happening with a focus on growing farm efficiencies in profit

(29:27):
and looking at Fontier's insights reports in their emission space.
So we've got two really great hosts there. So we
are at Stephen and Hailey Clark's on the fourteenth, so
Tuesday the fourteenth and Wednesday the fifteenth over at Riverton
with Luke and Gen Templeton, and so the focus on

(29:48):
those events. We've picked those hosts as people that are
not only really really efficient from a profit perspective in
doing great things, but also I guess are churning out
really good pasture harvested numbers.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
So the smaller Herds group tell us about that.

Speaker 10 (30:06):
Yep, so smaller herds that is four farms or running
herd sizes. I think it's of less than three hundred
and fifty.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
So it's not hobby farm or anything like that.

Speaker 10 (30:17):
No, no, no, certainly not ten cows. But I guess
with the approach with that group, that's one that's come
back online after a wee hiatus, but things on smaller
scale they can that discussion. I guess they probably don't
have the the scale two.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
It's a different synergy, different farming synergy.

Speaker 10 (30:40):
Yeah, differently, and you know they're running smaller teams or
maybe they're just mum and dad businesses, so the conversation
is quite different compared to that of a thousand cows.
So really excited to have that one back online. And
so that one that's at the end of the month.
So Nathan is heading to ivanand Denise Hoppers for that
one the twenty first of October. So that'd be really

(31:00):
cool to get that one back on. I think you
said quite a few people interested, but if you are,
you know in that I guess that between three hundred
four hundred cow size all this certainly get along to
that one. Looking forward to getting back engaged with that
group of farmers.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
So if people want to find out a bit more
of Keeley, what's the HAPs, where.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
Do you go? Yep?

Speaker 10 (31:23):
So either contact any of the local team myself, Nathan, Veronica,
Kate or James, or check out the Daryan Zaid website
forward slash it's dering z dot coded in zied forward
slash events.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Always good to catch out. Now you put your marshmallow
hat back on and we'll see you out for a
little bit of marshmallow cool.

Speaker 10 (31:43):
Thanks Andy, me put some.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Kelley bucking of a dairy and z you're listening to
the mustard before you wrap up? Lynn Berry a California cake.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
We did break in, if you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Lesson.

Speaker 11 (32:04):
Oh my good lord, someone for me have a done
a shadow Land sunny sent on me.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
There's a party down sound there?

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Fifteen you everybody had a bar before we catch up
with lynn Berry Taffy Limited. Their annual yielding recorded Jersey
bullsale is now happening tomorrow, the second of October, that
is Thursday, coincidentally, inspection at ten am, starting at eleven.
Thanks of PGG Rights and any concerns, get in touch

(32:35):
with your local PGG rights an agent. Lynn Berry.

Speaker 11 (32:38):
Good afternoon, Good afternoon. Well it is now that the
weathers find up a little bit and the snowflourries are gone,
so to speak, and some of the snow's mountain.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
But the good news is Friday's a high at seventeen.

Speaker 11 (32:51):
Who awesome.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
I know it's harder to effact than a broken nose.
This forecast to tell you, look.

Speaker 11 (32:58):
Well, it's normal for this time of the year, like
it's happened for the last nearly thirty years that I've
been down here. Every time in late September October we
get snow. It just depends how bad and how many times.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Pasture growth something else I hopefully always occurs too. Is
taking a bit of a check. Yeah it has.

Speaker 11 (33:16):
I got the woodland's gross growth the other day, and
our mean for this September or the middle of September
is usually about twenty five kg's dry matter or hectare,
and this time this year it's down to just under fifteen,
so it's slowed up a bit, quite a bit. It's
about nearly forty percent difference, and a lot of people

(33:37):
out there would have noticed it anyway. Not quite ideal
when we're probably some of the people are getting near
the end of their first round, and it's also not
that far away from mating coming up, so we wanted
our cows to be cycling.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
This is no different to what we've seen before, though exactly.

Speaker 11 (33:55):
It always happens, just depends on how big the drop
is a little bit bigger than it has been in
the last three or four years, but everybody's got things
in places place. August has been a really good month
and most of September as far as weather conditions down
here compet to last year, so it should have set

(34:16):
us up reasonably well for our cows to be starting
to at least hold some condition or starting to put
a little bit more on. And we need that to
be happening coming up to mating, so that our cows
are cycling and they can get a couple of cycles
in before the start of mating.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Those lighter cows, you need to try and prack them
up somehow.

Speaker 11 (34:37):
Yeah, No, we need to be looking at those lighter
cows going through and body conditions. Scoring them in the shed.
You might be able to if you run them into
separate mobs and maybe put them if you've got a
heafer mob or a young cow mob, stick your lighter
cows in there for a while. Some people will run
their lighter cows and their heifers first and second carvers

(34:59):
in a once a day mom maybe up until Christmas time,
and I've heard really good results with doing that. But
just taking that little bit of a pressure off them
so that they can, you know, balance balance out and
start gaining or holding the condition and not losing it.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Well, you should be body screwing your animals more often
than not anywhere, though, shouldn't you?

Speaker 11 (35:21):
Yeah, you should. If you're lucky enough to have scales
in the shed. That's really cool. Some of these really
automated farms now I will have the scales and if
they drop below a certain weight, they've got the collars
on that'll or automatic drafting that'll draft them out into
the light mob anyway, and then they manage it that way.

(35:43):
But it's you should be picking up on your cows
that are lighter, and you should be conditioned screwing, and
maybe at least four times a year.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
I think one thing though as well, was if you're
concerned about the animals, you want to get a second opinion.
Never get a mate, just gets somebody come in there
and just say what are your thoughts, because another opinion
can make a big change, because farmers a notoriously fussy
for what they see on an animal right exactly.

Speaker 11 (36:11):
But it's also the same as assessing pasture. As long
as you're doing it the same way continuously all year,
then you can notice your pasture decreasing or increasing. It's
the same when you are body conditioning your cows. If
you are doing it the same way all year, and
you should be able to pick up your cows at
a losing condition and increasing condition. But it's always handy

(36:35):
to go to the field days that they have on
body conditions scoring so that you can get your eye in.
And it's also handy if you've got a consultant that
comes round and he's walking around until she's walking around
the paddock and they go hmmm, I think some of
these animals are a bit light. You might need to
do something about it. Or geese, those girls are a
bit tubby, and like having tubby girls coming up to

(36:56):
mating can be just as detrimental as having them but light.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Something else to talk about today, Chrisper horses.

Speaker 11 (37:04):
Yes, chrisper horses. Pano horses from Argentina. Argentinians have actually
managed to produce some crisper horses that sounds like a chip.
I know it's chicken flavored, but it's horse flavored this time.
But the gene that they have suppressed actually makes for

(37:27):
more muscle mass, so these horses technically should be able
to run faster, which is good for polo. But the
Polo Association in Argentinian and Argentina aren't happy about it.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
You're going to say Argentinia.

Speaker 11 (37:40):
I know, Argentinia, but you're not to say that anymore
because they've changed the way you say it. But anyway, so,
and it wouldn't be that flash for horse racing because
you know that it's like doping athletes adding extra muscle.
But the good thing that could be used for is
actually in creating muscle and our beef animals and our

(38:02):
meat stock that we send off to the works. So
if we can suppress that gene that restricts muscle size
or muscle development, then we can produce more muscle in
our animals and therefore get more money. But the other
thing that was interesting when I was reading up about
it is that when they do Crisper and they edit
their genes, then that's permanent. They can't undo what they've done.

(38:27):
But there's a new method now called epdog genomes editing
where they can control the gene and they can turn
it off and then they can turn it back on again,
so that if they find out down the track that
it wasn't a good idea for some reason, then they
can redo what they've done, which sounds a lot more

(38:51):
sensible because.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
How do you just turn a gene on and off?

Speaker 11 (38:55):
I don't know, because I'm not a genetic scientist.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Andy as good.

Speaker 11 (39:00):
Apparently that you can. They've they've found a way of
doing that, so that sounds pretty I think that sounds
a lot more safer than some other processes at the moment.
But I know that they are using Crisper in medication
to help people with sickle selling anemia.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Now in the States, that'd be a great slogan. The
late Pete Sinclear could have voiced Crisper more big mass,
that's it exactly, and that and till you're in Canadia. Yeah,
good on. You don't always appreciate your time. You can
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Speaker 1 (39:44):
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(40:05):
Good to catch up. My name's Andy Mure. You've been
listening to the muster on Hocke and now he thanks
of Peterson. The next the podcast going up shortly enjoy
the afternoon made his blue Sky reign supreme whenever we
see it, see tomorrow, still sell them bringing another out
we need any more?

Speaker 4 (40:23):
Hey, well all right too, he'll go there.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
And what are they going again for stock selling? Action
occurred at the Bear Cluther saw yards this morning, of course,
thanks of p GG rights and we catch up with
the Warwick. Hell we once again Warwick get a how
do we go?

Speaker 4 (40:35):
Yeah? Goay listeners. Of course it's the last time for
me on that the partnership on a Friday and jumping
over your sort the Feedscount Street family, which we're pretty
excited about. So we faked everyone who's out before weeks
of the last eight years through Piggy watching my twelve
years the industry before that as well. I'm up said
it's great, buddy and durable, so I would know a
grece to hear for their clothes. We know I thinks

(40:56):
are rocking a long way, are living in the land
of positivity for once in the sheeper industry, which is great.
And we're kettle sales today for and we hit at
five six hundred kettle good kettle and D two and
of course by the feature line down those macarone over
the mccraze of course had a lot of two year old,
a very nice two year old world bred Angus kettle
and they are two year old steels sold up for

(41:16):
five dollars twenty a k so that late fourth early
five dollars of kilo. And there's some very nice hipisy
in the made between four seventy and five dollars a killo.
I also had some very nice Angus yelling steers from
Papoona Farms there the Scotts off off the top of
the top of the Mount Stewart, the behind the windows,
and they sold very well today too, between five dollars

(41:37):
forty eight and five to seventy five the kilo. But
now the killer mark took it on pretty good, as
we have talked about. It's sobered up a weeve it
in the last few weeks from some of the crazy
heights of August. But there's technic a line, you know,
so they are well bred kettle and the right colors,
and they're all the same color. It does pay on
the sheep and look weird good you having sheep today,
as we know that market has been rocking along good year,

(41:58):
having a fine lambs top in making between two hundred
and fifty and two hundred and thirty dollars, and they
were some very good lambs I got canning so ie
en up they think through fifty to two thirty. It's
very good money. But the lambs are also very very
good as well. One hundred and eight fifty on the
medium and just the sort of one sixty to one
eighty on the smaller lambs on the stores. And year

(42:19):
we did we had it on wall the day, ladies
and gentlemen from Mark's coming sort of one hundred and
tow one hundred and thirty on those Beata stare ams,
eighty to ninety five on the mediums on the US.
I'm starting to get a few whik I use out
and they are selling well, sort of one sixty to
two hundred and twelve dollars today on the bitter en
jus one twenty to one sixty on the mediums at

(42:40):
eighty two one hundred and five on the smalls and
just a handful of rams. They worth seventy dollars, so hey,
big thanks everyone. Of course I've got young Mark Coole
I thing heasy to take over the radio show. He's
taking over More Lawrence.

Speaker 13 (42:54):
In a run, so I watched him all the very
best and of course young West of Mall only well
he's been a few days now, Russell, although you know him.
Of course he is going to take over the Milton
will Holway for me, and he will. He'll get into
that with plenty of enthusiasm. So it's look all the
beast to those two young boys there are there.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
Going to be away on the industreet in the future.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
That's looking bright.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
So we may cost you summer in the future, Asian gentlemen.
But thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Get on you Eric as a pleasure to have you
and made all the best.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
No, thank you very much, nice bloody brilliance. I hold
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