December 2, 2025 • 41 mins
Andy Muir talks to Don Moore, David Frame, Steve Henderson, Wendy Paul, Nathan Nelson and Mark Calder.
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Moore starting us off part of the Fonterra Shareholders Council,
Farming and McNabb looking at the GDT overnight the eighth
drop in a row in the GDT, so Don tells
us what this means for the season. David Frame from
Craig's Investment Partners is on the program, as is Steve
Henderson farming down at Aberua. Wendy Paul part of Growing
for Future Farmers, is on the show, and Nathan Nelson
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Rights and gives a rundown on the Bakloo for stock
sale that was held this morning. And then we'll continue
the owl. We'll start the hour actually with Don Moore.
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Speaker 1 (03:00):
Dropped by your local agricent to South Branch today. Done
more farms of McNabb. He's part of the Fonterra Sharholders
Counsel and joins us this afternoon. Although done good afternoon.
You're out and about on your on your vespers and
your little scooters. By the sounds of it, what's the go.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Yeah, good afternoon, and yeah I would just do it
a bit of a test ride where it was us
in a chest of myself and a few friends. We've
signed up for the Scooter Challenge in March from Taratonga
to town now, so we thought we'd we've done a
bit of work this morning and we thought, right, we'll
have a break and head out to get out to
men Medival for lunch and take our scooters for a ride.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
See when I when I did the scooter Challenge last year,
Porky Smith in itself only went for a test drive
a week before the event. You've gone about half a year.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yeah, yeah, well I actually part of the reason. And
I actually just did a bit of work on my
I've got a nineteen sixty nine c L fifty and
I've just had a bit of penel work and things
done it. So I only put it back together and
finished putting it together about ten o'clock last night. So
we'll take it for a ride and make sure we
sort of iron out and the Kinkes got a couple
of things I'll do when I get back.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, the Southern Scooter Challenge happening, like you're say, in March.
There's going to be a couple of teams from Hockenou
involved in that as well. That's going to be a
great occasion. But what wasn't a great occasion, unfortunately, was
a GDT result overnight the Eights dropping a rod on.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I think you know everyone's seen this coming.
It's been talked about quite widely, you know, production overseas
and things and what's happening with all crosses overseas as well.
It's on the back of that, and I don't think
we could expect too much else really, although it's never
nice to see.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
It'll start putting pressure on the payout though use again
and we just had that drop and we Fonterira anyway
last week.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Yeah, definitely, And it's something that you know, last couple
of years, Frontier has increased its advanced rate for the
milk price, So it's something they'll have to watch very
very closely, and I know they do just to make
sure that they're not overpaying what a final milk price
might end up at. So yeah, they'll be on top
of it and keep us notified in two course if
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there needs to be further changes. But oh yeah, I
fingers crossed. We're on the back of just coming off
the top of peak milk things now and traditionally we
have seen you know, GDT cycles cycle down during as
we lead into our peak, and so hopefully as things
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ease off and milk volumes on the GDT auctions start
to decrease, that we that we see maybe a bit
more positive response later and well into the new year.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
There's not so much about New Zealand's situation though. I
think it's a case of places like Australia for example,
the milk's are play coming out of there at the moment.
There's a lot of volume.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yeah, yeah, certainly it is. There's a lot of volume
and several places around the world. But in saying that,
you know, farmers have been quick to respond in the
last eighteen months to high milk prices and put more
feed and then produce more milk, so you know, just
within New Zealand as well, so that is seeing an
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increase in the whole milk powder in the mix and
on GDT options.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Well, it's a double edged sword. As well done. We
can pretty much put buttergate to bed now they dropped
twelve point four percent. But then we look to the
mint situation. Is now mintsgate based on the price of
mints and the supermarkets. But saying that as well, we
just look at what you're getting for a color animal
and it's a double edged sword. Perhaps any cows you're
thinking about taking out of your system, this is the
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perfect time to do it. Yeah, it is. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Yeah, we sent a few scraggly ones away and you
know last week and we just had the statement through
yesterday and I was very, very pleasantly surprised at what
we've got for those. So yeah, this certainly made me
reflect on those headlines of mints prices and things, and
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you can see why the mints prices jumped so much
when we're getting twice what we were getting only a
few years ago for for a mince. Cows here are.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
You're pretty confident we're going to see a solidifying of
the GDT as such after this.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Ah, Look, I wouldn't like to predict anything. I'm hopeful.
I'm hopeful, but you know, and like I say, that's
where things have gone traditionally in the past. But you
can never count on anything being normal.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
There's no real new normal anymore, I suppose when you
think about it.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
No, and that's you know, we've got a whole heap
of teriff barriers and bits and pieces in the mix
that not necessarily our tariff barriers, but other countries tariff
barriers that have bigger effects on their economy and how
that flows through to purchasing goods off us as well.
So yeah, there's a heap of heap of things in
the mix.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah. The terrorf situation is almost more of a reaction
as well.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Yeah, definitely, yeah, Yeah, And it seems to be no
rhyme or rhythm, and you can't you can't predict anything
on which way, whether they'll go up or down, will
stay the same.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Now it's like a box of chocolates. You don't know
what trup he's going to come up with next. Now
on the farm, we're getting towards the Christmas rush. How's
everything been.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Are you busy? Yeah? Yeah, dealing with a lot of
grass at the moment, which is a fantastic problem to have,
but certainly conversations around maintaining quality and things like that.
A lot of bailer's being made and crops and grass
that was in the ground nice and much earlier this year.
So I've still got a couple of peddicks myself to
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finish off, but hoping to get that nailed off as
it tries out a bit more, sort of closer to
the end of the week and over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
A lot of people talking about being too wet or
too dry, but a McNabb, you're holding pretty firm.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yeah, I mean the rain's been very tinly. It's been
talked about quite a bit, haven't it that. You know
that we had a good rain the other day and
it came and probably just in the nick of time,
just to keep things moving. It's not that we're in
a bad situation, but to keep things moving. And it's
looking good for Sunday Monday, looking pretty good to you
next week.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Absolutely, Hey, we'll leave it there, mate. Always appreciate your
time on the muster here just and the kids. You
enjoy the festive season. And you got anything in the
pipeline in particular.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yeah, we're actually we are. That's probably puts a bit
more pressure on we are. We're heading over to Odi
for a couple of weeks. So yeah, our oldest boy, Harry,
he's off to college next year, so we we're trapping
them all in in a camp Evan and traveling the
Great Ocean Road. So that'll be pretty neat experience we're
looking forward to, but a lot of years definitely having
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a bit of pressure to get the jobs ticked off.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Good on your dinoways, Appreciate your time. Good luck on
that scooter.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Yeah, cheers mate, We'll see you there.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Done more farming at McNab. Part of the fun. Here
a sharholder's counselor. You're listening to the Muster up next
David Frame from Craig's Investment Partners.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
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Speaker 1 (10:27):
David Framer, Craig's Investment Partners, joins us once again in studio.
Good afternoon, Good afternoon.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
How are you Andy?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I'm going really well, but let's be ho it's probably
not as good as you guys, you've got a.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
New building we have. We're really excited. We moved into
our new premises two weeks ago. So we are on
the corner of Ierk Street and Fairfield, opposite the New World.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
There's the best way to describe things a good not
actually streets, but just landmarks.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
Well most people go to the New worlder know where
it is. We're in the new building on the corner opposite.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
There you go. Now, it's been a busy a couple
of weeks for you guys. Firstly, we'll start off of this.
You've been doing your road shows. How's it been.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
It's been good.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
Yeah, we had a road show yesterday and Wyndham recently.
Small turnout but everyone was quite chatty today. We're all
be in Riversdale at two o'clock tomorrow, Moss been two
o'clock next week, winton O'tow Tower, Tapanui, Clyde Vale. So
happy just to have a chat with people over a beer.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
So you're just encouraging people to come along and just
talk about what they want to think about or what
they're thinking as far as an off farm investment and
the likes.
Speaker 7 (11:31):
Yeah, so we'll talk for ten or fifteen minutes. There's
a small presentation and then we'll just have a chat
with anyone that's got any questions.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Here's a couple of bevies and a bit of a
feed on as well.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
Oh definitely, yeah, the main attraction probably.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Nice, nothing better than that. Now, interest rates, the ocr
and the likes has been in the news well for
the year, let's be honest, but it's been a bit
of movement in that and arguably it's a good thing. Well,
it is a good thing, let's be honest.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Well, it is a good thing. Most people saw it coming.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
So the moved down to two point twenty five percent,
which is pretty low on historic levels and might not
move much more from here. So the general feeling is
that interest rates might be bottoming out. Some people are
still stuck on high fixed rates, so it's going to
take a while for these interest rates to flow through,
but it should help the economy in general.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
But these rates will flow through through. As you say,
what timeframe are you thinking, I think.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
There's something like half the borrowers are still on sort
of six percent ish or more. So by the time
that their rates flow off, then they should be somewhere
in four and a half to five percent.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
It depends what people do with their money.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
I guess when they go to refix again.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
So how would you clarify how would you sum up
the year? I suppose as far as the HOOSI interest
rates situation, I think it'd be pretty positive. From a
consumer viewpoint.
Speaker 7 (12:52):
It is positive. It's getting better every month. It's been
slowly getting better. Rural economy is doing quite well, are
going down. Still a bit of uncertainty out there, so
I think the retail sales are still poor this year,
but compared to the start of the year, we're definitely
in a better space.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Well, you can compare the mood of towns like Good
to other areas, and that it is December, granted, but
the likes of the main street, there's a real vibe
going on at the moment where there's been new businesses
open up case in point you guys have changed your location,
but also other especially in Irk Street. You know, it's
good to see those buildings getting filled up. And this
is all just a flow onto the rural economy.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
It is.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
It's great and it shows the confidence that people now
have where a couple of years ago everyone had their
hands in their pockets.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Would you say there's real confidence in the business sector
around good.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
I'd say in general there is. I can't think of
anyone that's been that negative. But most people are quite cheaper.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Certainly, it's not too cheaper. Unfortunately. Was the GDT the
global dairy trade overnight the eighth drop in a row,
and all of a sudden the pressure comes on the
milk payouts by the milk companies.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
Yeah, it seems to be we've been on a slide
for a while now. Whole milk powder price is down
two point four percent overnight, but it's down a lot
twelve point four percent. Different story going on there, but
it probably points to one way direction for the milk
price for the farmers next year, which is lower now.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
And hydro's milk fat back nine point eight percent, butter
back twelve point four percent, butter milk powder up one
point eight, chiller up seven point two, lectose four point
two it went up, mozzarella back one, skim milk powder
back one point six and the main driver, whole milk
powder back two point four percent.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
Yeah, which isn't too flash. The whole milk powder price
is almost back to where it was five years ago,
so it's been a slippery slope pretty much since the
start of the year. The payout should still be in
the nines. You would hope to next year, but it's
difficult to know if this trend continues.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
And it's not so much by the sounds of it.
It's not about the demand, but it's supply, and there's
a lot of a supply on the world market at
the moment.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
Yes, and it doesn't take much for some of those
other large milk producers to put some into the export
market and suddenly there's more supply than demand on the auction.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Is this just more of an indication though, where New
Zealand sits in the world scheme of things as far
as food supply, it.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
Is we've got quite a brittlely economy when you look
at the world stage, and we do well out of
our primary producing farms. The issue is that you know,
if someone else wants to compete heavily or has an oversupply,
some of their numbers can swamp us pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Absolutely so stand by there's one more GDT auction for
the years, so it'll be interesting to see if there's
a rebound. Now we look at currencies too. It's kind
of stabilized over the past couple of weeks since I
caught up with Sam. Like the Aussie dollar at the
moments eighty seven cents. New Zealand to the US is
fifty seven cents the UK is forty three pence, but
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it's still pretty low. But as an exporting nation, again
this works in our favor.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Yeah, it does help for the exporters. Importers.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
You'll probably notice petrol prices back up, some of those
imported goods will feel the brunt of But as an
exporting nation, we do benefit from a lower currency. It
has stabilized, which is good, and I believe the Reserve
Bank coming out giving a good summary last week help
the markets understand that New Zealand's doing okay and should
do better next year. And hence the dollar looks like
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it's firmed up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah. The fuel price, especially here in Gore, where it
is notoriously known for being cheaper than a lot of
places in New Zealand, and it's gone up. What's diesel,
it's almost just under two dollars in some places for
goodness sake.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
Yeah, ninety five petrol is now over two dollars eighty
in most places, so yeah, quite a jump.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
It's just that's probably the ebbs and flows the dollar.
Speaker 7 (16:48):
It correlates, really it does, and every household feels the
effects of that.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
So I mean, do you guys finish up for the year.
Speaker 7 (16:55):
We actually are open every trading day of the year,
every business day, but our Gore office will close for
the days in between Christmas and New Year, and clients
can call out eight hundred number or deal with one
of the other branches, so it'll give our team here
a good rest after a busy year.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
So the way of getting in touch with you guys,
you're still at the same phone number.
Speaker 7 (17:17):
Yep, same phone number, new address, one Erk Street, and
you can find us online at craigsip dot com.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Get on your David always good to catch up and
we'll catch up in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Excellent, Thanks Andy.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
David Frame of Craig's Investment Partners. You're listening to the muster.
Next we're going to Alora. We're catching up with Steve
Henderson dairy farming up there. We're down there to appear
as where you live.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Good. Who doesn't know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Who's a never left home?
Speaker 8 (17:51):
Who's never struck.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Out too fine. Steve Henderson of Alora joins us this
afternoon on the Muster. Good afternoon, Steve the checks. They
were once upon a time the Dixie Checks, but everybody
goes and changes their names like Andy's right.
Speaker 8 (18:05):
Yeah, all of but pc they still with the Dixie
Chicks to raft down here.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Still still good chains that way.
Speaker 8 (18:11):
Yeah, yep, there's toe tapping and.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Are seventy some days I feel like it down there
where you are. Anyway, how's it been.
Speaker 8 (18:24):
Of Blake. We've been pretty good. We've got to we
splash a rain like most other people on Sunday, and yeah,
we're we're probably we haven't had a like in early
December or late November like this in a long time.
It's usually by extreme or the other. So yeah, we're
still flat out top and trying to limit the seed
head and we're still getting some pretty good growth rates
out the back of it. So yeah, we're pulled a
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few bit of feed out of the shed and obviously
no toponment's gamable pet it, so yeah, it's actually make
Hi cheat milk, which is good for a change.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
So you're actually coping pretty well down there because depending
on who you speak to him, whichever part of Southland,
it's a different scenario here.
Speaker 8 (19:01):
We are well, it's all in perspective. We've only probably
out there just once today, so in perspective we are
actually going pretty good complete the other years. So no
conditions are good for getting most of the seed in
the ground. You still got the odd pets that you've
got to work around and then they'll dry up. But yeah,
as a whole well down pretty.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Good grass cavers, then they're looking okay.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
Yeah, there's crazy in the pastor ride right now actually,
so I think they would have buttoned back.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
We might be a.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
Visiged for COMMUNA twenty one fifty maybe average cover and
kills are leading really good residuals at the moment, So
we've already done one left of topping and we're a
selective of what we topp now because you know, if
the not warranting topping, you can burn a lot of
diesel just for stetics. So they made a way of
the seed in there for us to top them now
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and near the kills are cleaning them ups really good
and milk flier shine that too. The grass would have
fled oued, whereas last year. We started to fall off
the grass pretty quickly from now on and it's just
ready grass quality.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, it's an interesting how every season though such a
variance and what you're going to get here.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
It is, it is.
Speaker 8 (20:04):
You can do as many budgets and be prepared for
as much as you can, but yeah, it's just on
the day or on the week, you've got to adapt
to it, and you sort of you know, they say
have your things on the pulse, and you probably do
to a degree. You do need to know what kels
are leaving behind and how much speed's going into the
shed and the response, so you don't want to leave
too much in the pedicra way to food. So yeah,
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we've made a couple of calls in the last ten
days to pull them through feeding back to sort of
match what they're leaving in the peddocks. So yeah, and
it's good and it's good to be farming again. As
in you know, August September, September, October, we weren't really farming.
We were just reacting to what we had to do.
Now you can make those calls and see the results
and we're not getting made of by stuck in paddocks.
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And see it's enjoyable.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Works of the GDT result overnight. I've talked about this
with Dan Moore and Dave Frame just before. But you're
pretty much you're putting everything in perspective at the moment.
Speaker 8 (20:58):
Here we are, you know, we're obviously open country supplies
and at their supplied meetings they were they were talking
about the increase of milk coming on tap and that's
just respective I think of what's happening. But like everything
out there, and there's ways to huge your bet.
Speaker 9 (21:14):
So to speak.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
So we've got a bit bit of milk with milk
futures locked in.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
It.
Speaker 8 (21:20):
We've got ten dollars so that there's no different depicting
the interest rates or you know, taking a contract on
the imported feeds. So you just look at your top
top maybe three expenses in your top income, which is
obviously milk. So yeah, we always had your bets enough
to pay invoices and keep the bank happy.
Speaker 9 (21:38):
That's what we do.
Speaker 8 (21:39):
And then we're about half a percent of their milk
will usually huge each year. So yeah, it's just all
part and parcel. And it's obviously you know four or
five year game, not just the one new game.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
During I particularly enjoy the birds chirping in the background
while you're talking positive about the situation. It's a thing
of beauty, it is.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
And I don't know what happens in hour. I had
a comment it yesterday.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Can hear them now?
Speaker 8 (22:01):
There's only about two bloody chirpin and there's a trip
to riding in the background, which all the thoughts would
cover that. But anyway, it was a happy place.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Must be a good time at the hand of some fun.
This afternoon got to be.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
I look forward to it.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
You want to touch on this as well, regarding fires
and the likes fire permit season. That's what we all know.
What's been happening over the past couple of months down
here in the south. Trees down everywhere, still branches and
the likes and just a message you want to share.
Speaker 8 (22:27):
Yeah, so we we've actually had two different types of fires.
We had a trip to go and fire about two
weeks ago, and yeah, that was very close to a
dock block, which we've word so yep, yes, big thanks
to Kingswall. They got out and an afashionably well time
and got that fire out so it didn't quite get in.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
The duck block.
Speaker 8 (22:47):
I mean yeah, Well, obviously everybody's got a lot of
tree trimmings and branches. They've got to be current and
some are a bit more critical than others. So we've
got a couple that we're burning right now. Any young
grass head that we were trying to get in so
yet we've looked them up and we're in a zone
I think there's going to see down here. So were
we need permits all the time when you light a fire,
(23:07):
But it's just being aware of what you're what you're doing,
what you don't do obviously today at the calm days,
so yes, let's hick the box and just keeping the
hedge piles well away from the head directly lighting was
There's been two or three incidents down here where there's
the pile being burned and then the winds got out
and they've been you know, team meters to the headline
that they've been pulled from and the fire crew has
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been out to put the head out. It's just that
it's almost just a waste of their bloody time when
they could be saving something more critical. So it's just
been mindful around that and if you need to light it,
light up. If you don't need to light. It just
wait for the weathers in the right situation and flying
in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Regetting your track though. Was it due to bird beasts?
Speaker 8 (23:50):
No, it wasn't, no, No, it had been just thing
all day. And then have our four in the afternoon
the trektor stopped on poor old Kellerman. There must have
been electrical to stop the tractor and then yeld in
a couple of minutes there was a flame and bear
tractors being tractors you know, but have always are here,
and plastics they just light up. So yeah, he was
pretty good. He rang me and then here we got
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on the case and he helped the old fires to
roll out some hoses and get it out because it's
just the unknown of what ken heaven. It could just
be an mber that goes up a bit high and
jumps into the dog block and then yeah, we're always
reasonably renowned for the old peat fires, so we didn't
want to be one of those fellows. It's not just
what happens on the Day's read the cushions, yeah, exactly.
Then they can last forever, and most of those peat
bogs they just continue underground and pop up, you know,
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four hundred meters for a k away and took a
months time and he continue to burn, so hopefully we
stomped it out as quick as we did.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
So that's your version of the Great Tire Fire and Springfield. Right, Yeah,
it was.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
Yet yet there was plenty of off colored smoke and
we didn't bring any sausages and they have time for that.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
But you know it was good and just finally as well,
you want to give a shout out to the IHC
caw Scheme.
Speaker 10 (24:58):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
So he's getting picked up this afternoon, no doubt with them,
along with probably hundreds of others them zelpland so here
they're going out to Launville and you've also got Algambrick
Friday and hospice going on in the same day, which
is a sol day to Mari, I know the calfs
are last wee week was pretty hot, and let's make
this one just as hot with you know, they're they're
all gifted calves and they all go to a good course.
(25:19):
Because between those three charities, I do you say, everybody
will know someone that's been involved in them, and it's
a it's a quick, easy way for you know, afters
cockies to give back to those organizations, but no doubt
we'll see in the near future.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Absolutely, Steve, Hey, we'll leave you to it with some
toe tapping the checks and those little birdies chirping the
background as a thing of beauty.
Speaker 8 (25:40):
We will no are things and conning back.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Steve Anderson, you're listening to the muster before the end
of the year. And Nathan Nelson of Derry and Z up.
Next from Growing Future Farmers, Wendy Paul. She traveled this
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road as a child, this as a master on Hakanoi.
Wendy Paul out of Growing Future Farmers joins us this afternoon. Wendy,
always good to catch up.
Speaker 10 (26:15):
How are you, Hey, Andy, I'm great, Thank you, Thanks
for having us on.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
You're always ready to catch up. Now, this is a
really cool initiative, Growing Future Farmers. You've got a new
agreement or such with Fonterra or new thing happening. What's
going on.
Speaker 10 (26:30):
Yeah, it's a great thing for us, big milestone in
terms of the evolution of GFF. So, yeah, we've been
in conversation with Fontarira for about a year and a
bit around the opportunity to partner with them. They've obviously
seen our model as something that's interesting to them around
transferable way of training differently, and they also have a
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broader career to resent a dairy strategy which is a
long term commitment through to twenty forty to support the
future workforth needs of cooperative So the alignment was really
strong in terms of this age group of attracting and
giving opportunities for young people leaving school is a different
way to get into dairy and it aligns perfectly with
(27:12):
gff's long term strategy of greater impact. So we're very
excited to see.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Where it goes.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Well, it's always good to get young people involved into agriculture,
but especially when schemes like this are made available.
Speaker 10 (27:23):
Yeah, I mean the big thing is that we know
the demands there from young people and it's just about
giving them visibility and opportunities and how obviously from a
broader context, we know that we're going to need this
workforce path line or talent pathline, but sometimes they don't
quite know how to get in. So this just gives
another another opportunity for those young people to get into dairy,
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which in the sector which we very much focus on on,
how do we just open up those pathways?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah, looking here as well. Fonterra is talking about their
broader care careers and dairy strategy. It's a long term
commitment through to twenty forty to support future workforce sneeze
and highlight the diversity of opportunities across across the cooperative.
So there's a lot of different revenues as far as
career that people can choose from. That's the beauty absolutely.
Speaker 10 (28:13):
I mean, obviously our program focuses on getting skills on farm,
but that's just step one. As they get more aware
of what's out there. We've seen some of our gradgeates
go into multiple different sort of every careers and I
think the same will be in this case where obviously
Frontier is a huge employer for New Zealand and there
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I've been through it myself eighteen and a half years.
There there's a wonderful sort of popeline of all sorts
of opportunities that may be on farm but also could
be in factories, all in their global network of sales.
There's so many different opportunities and this is just the
first step in the window into those into those possibilities.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
So who are you looking at applying for this as such?
Wendy so for this one.
Speaker 10 (28:58):
It's a pilot just to make sure you test the
concept can work in dairy. So we're looking at similar
age groups, so that's sixteen to twenty, but it is
focused just purely at the moment in the White Caado
and Bay of Plenty, So they are only going to
be a small number of slots available or placements for
roughly around ten. But anybody who lives in or can
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move to the Why Caado and Bay of Plenty in
that age group with all the criterion attributes that we
look for, and young people can apply.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
So it's all about attitude making the difference.
Speaker 10 (29:31):
Yeah, I mean, you know, that's one of the biggest
thing we look for is the right attitude, willingness to learn,
and a good work ethic so that they can come
in and be a mastered to themselves but also to
those farm trainers that are investing in their futures as well.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
So as far as the cost for people that apply,
is there anything involved.
Speaker 10 (29:50):
Not to the students know, other than the basic stuff
that we talk about in the sets that they've got
to come with some equipment laptops and farm gear and
to have a restricted license. But they don't there's no
there's no students fee or program fees for this.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Pilot, so there's going to be like on farm mentorship obviously,
regional student meetups as well, so they can collaborate students
and just chew the fat and see how the progress
is going to Yeah.
Speaker 10 (30:18):
Absolutely, you know that the model will be very similar
to our existing shep Beef and Deer in the sense
that the students are on their own farms four days
a week and then they get to be part of
the cohort at least one day a week. In some weeks,
it may be more when they're doing more group training,
but their idea is to very much create that sense
of community and collaboration as a as a pilot cohort.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
The prospective students, Wendy, how can they apply?
Speaker 10 (30:43):
So please go on our website. There's a specific dairy
page on our website. They can apply through that, but
if they've got any questions, just to call us on
our number which is on the website oh to one
three one five five three four, and we can answer
any questions.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Good on you, Wendy. You always good to catch up.
You enjoy the afternoon.
Speaker 10 (31:03):
Thank you so much, Andy, Thanks for having us.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Who doesn't Wendy Paul, chief executive of Growing Future Farmers.
Always good to see initiatives like this taking off as well. So,
like Wendy said, if you're curious about this as it
is based in the Waykado Bay offmedi region and nonetheless
certainly avenues for people looking at getting into the dairying
sector from a young a young age Growing Futurefarmers dot
(31:30):
co dot NZ as well or get in touch oh
to one three one five y three four regarding a
pilot intake for early twenty twenty six. Nathan Nelson of
daryan Zi joins us. Next when.
Speaker 8 (31:47):
Such a.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Welcome back to the muster, Nathan Nelson of Dairy and
Zed catches up once again. Nathan Good, Ugh to know.
Speaker 11 (32:01):
Good Andy, get to be with you again.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yeah, good to catch up. It's obviously all guns to
the guttle and the lead up to the busy season.
Speaker 11 (32:10):
Yeah, it certainly is on the on the dairy front
with obviously in the middle of our sort of homegrown
feed maximizing homeground feed events and between that and actually
juggling what needs to be done on the phone, whether
it's getting some mowing gune or some baialage or crops
in the ground. Cows obviously been mated as well, and
probably better chat about winning some cars and hopefully getting
them off to their support blocks as well.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yeah, just before we talk about that. As far as
feed covers, how's it looking, because it sounds as it's
feast or famine as far as moisture around the province,
depending on who you speak to.
Speaker 11 (32:42):
Yeah, look where were yesterday, Winton. We're sort of Capuca
today and will be Bayswater sort of glad Vale tomorrow.
So yeah, sort of probably central Western I suppose looking
a picture to be honest. Yeah, they're a bit of
pre grade mowing going on and good, good covers and yeah,
set up reasonably well there. But yeah, definitely very rearable
(33:04):
across the chat. I think you and I were having
that conversation off here even us today. Sort of weather
pattern a little bit of a thunderplump where we were
coming to town and it was sort of dry as
so Yeah, certainly quite rearable across the province, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
So weaning weights and calves something you'd like to come
in on today, Nathan, Yeah.
Speaker 11 (33:22):
Look, it's probably that time of the year some preps
already into that, just depending on wearing systems and carving
dates on farm. But yeah, certainly sort of thinking about that.
It's probably just one of those extra jobs at this
time of the year, very much a juggle between getting
everything done. But I suppose if we were going to
do it by the book and set up for scales,
obviously that's the most accurate way of doing it. So
(33:45):
again guidelines. Everyone's going to have their own sort of
views around this, but we would probably say like minimum
weights if you're running more that sort of Jersey breed,
seventy five plus kilos over the scales, if you're into
that more crossbread typing of those minimum and then up
to that sort of top end prision range anywhere from
ninety five to sort of one hundred kilos over the scales,
(34:06):
and then yeah, probably the other key thing with that
as well was if they're on that at least a
kilo of meal being consumed probably one of the things
that most people will know, but just that sort of
whole diet change around. Yeah, weaning and going out to
support blocks or wherever those replacement cars are going to
be kept. Ideal, if you could keep a little bit
of meal going into them just while they're going sort
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of through that transition phase. Yeah, at least maybe a
couple of weeks, a couple of three weeks, just to
keep that sort of consistent feed going into the diet
that they were on the home farm and where they're
going to for grazing. So, yeah, if you're going to
do it by the book, certainly those are sort of
the guidelines to be aiming for.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Well, just calf management one oh one, just maintaining ways.
Speaker 11 (34:50):
And putting it on Yeah, absolutely, and probably secondary to that,
you know, like that's ideal. The roalde is we've always
got maybe a few cars that are whatever reason, had
a little health check in their rearing system or just
a bit later carving, or I don't know, just maybe
poor doers. It's again depending on mob sizes and what's possible,
but really probably the only practical option for them is
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whether they can actually be sort of run a bit
separate or almost sort of treated. Is that, yeah, sort
of separate mob I guess, just to reduce a bit
of competition or try and get a bit of fresh
feed going into them and help them get up to
weights there. I say a little bit of compensatory growth
if that's an option, and probably one of the other things,
which again just sounds dead obvious, but we probably see
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you know, this have a big impact on growth raats
or certainly check young stock carves. Is just that access
to clean fresh water and certainly some of these days
are a bit warmer. But yeah, it's just sort of surprising,
like it sounds obvious, but that sort of Yeah, clean
water can have a big impact on actual growth raats
as well for those replacement heaths getting off to a
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good start.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
And the other thing today ball management. It's all about
being safe.
Speaker 11 (36:03):
Yeah, look, I think that's the key thing.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Obviously.
Speaker 11 (36:06):
Again we've got listeners with a whole range of different systems.
Some are obviously running the all ab or sort of
using the wearables, but we've probably got just as many
that are still maybe a bit more of a traditional
mix of artificial breeding and balls and probably coming to
that stage where some are looking at bringing balls back
onto farm to run with the mix stage cows. So yeah,
(36:26):
I think probably the key messages for this time of
the year. I'm make sure those bulls probably land on
farm like nobody likes having them around, but they do
need to be on farm probab at least a week
or ten days before you actually need to use them,
just to check that any lameness or any injuries or
just sort of yeah, give them that little bit of
rest or boost period before you're actually going to need
to use them. But certainly probably that chat with the
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team on farm they need to be managing them, just
a get obvious things like mark them up or paint
them so they're reasonably easy to actually identify. Just have
a bit of a yarn around what your plans are
and how to deal with them and how you're actually
going to manage them on farm, and just keep that
safety top of mind, to be honest as the keeping
and they're obviously you know, charged up and keen to
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do their jobs. So yeah, it's that's just having that
set around it, isn't it to be honest And again
just a couple of obvious tips there is, you know,
land them on farm, keep them in their mobs as
far as their ball teams go, because again they're obviously
working out their dominant structures and who wants to be
the boss, So if you are rotating balls around, which
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would encourage just keep them in their same mods if possible,
unless they obviously get lame or injured, and then yeah,
probably again, like from a technical point of view, the
working ratio to of thirty thirty cows to one working ball,
and I suppose that's the key as long as that
ball's in working order. Sometimes a good idea, depending on programs,
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to have a few extra balls going to cover that,
you know, say weeks sort of five and six and seven,
and then just assess as you're going through, if they're
not in a heck of a lot of work and
you're confident around your repro results and they're just scrapping them,
possibly actually take tax some out and then probably just
the other side as well, just keeping yourself covered from
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a bi security point of view, a disease point of view,
if you are bringing those animals and off farm the like,
just make sure that they have got their disease statuses
as far as BBD or TV or YONIS and some
of those nasties that you're probably working pretty hard to
keep out of your herd. Just make sure they're either
coming with those certificates or have those vaccines and sort
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of verified. Because last thing you want us obviously introduce
a disease or something into your herd through that pathway.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
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Speaker 11 (38:44):
Good to catch up things.
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Farming and McNabb looking at the GDT overnight the eighth
drop in a row in the GDT, so Don tells
us what this means for the season. David Frame from
Craig's Investment Partners is on the program, as is Steve
Henderson farming down at Aberua. Wendy Paul part of Growing
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Speaker 1 (03:00):
Dropped by your local agricent to South Branch today. Done
more farms of McNabb. He's part of the Fonterra Sharholders
Counsel and joins us this afternoon. Although done good afternoon.
You're out and about on your on your vespers and
your little scooters. By the sounds of it, what's the go.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Yeah, good afternoon, and yeah I would just do it
a bit of a test ride where it was us
in a chest of myself and a few friends. We've
signed up for the Scooter Challenge in March from Taratonga
to town now, so we thought we'd we've done a
bit of work this morning and we thought, right, we'll
have a break and head out to get out to
men Medival for lunch and take our scooters for a ride.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
See when I when I did the scooter Challenge last year,
Porky Smith in itself only went for a test drive
a week before the event. You've gone about half a year.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yeah, yeah, well I actually part of the reason. And
I actually just did a bit of work on my
I've got a nineteen sixty nine c L fifty and
I've just had a bit of penel work and things
done it. So I only put it back together and
finished putting it together about ten o'clock last night. So
we'll take it for a ride and make sure we
sort of iron out and the Kinkes got a couple
of things I'll do when I get back.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, the Southern Scooter Challenge happening, like you're say, in March.
There's going to be a couple of teams from Hockenou
involved in that as well. That's going to be a
great occasion. But what wasn't a great occasion, unfortunately, was
a GDT result overnight the Eights dropping a rod on.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I think you know everyone's seen this coming.
It's been talked about quite widely, you know, production overseas
and things and what's happening with all crosses overseas as well.
It's on the back of that, and I don't think
we could expect too much else really, although it's never
nice to see.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
It'll start putting pressure on the payout though use again
and we just had that drop and we Fonterira anyway
last week.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Yeah, definitely, And it's something that you know, last couple
of years, Frontier has increased its advanced rate for the
milk price, So it's something they'll have to watch very
very closely, and I know they do just to make
sure that they're not overpaying what a final milk price
might end up at. So yeah, they'll be on top
of it and keep us notified in two course if
(05:15):
there needs to be further changes. But oh yeah, I
fingers crossed. We're on the back of just coming off
the top of peak milk things now and traditionally we
have seen you know, GDT cycles cycle down during as
we lead into our peak, and so hopefully as things
(05:35):
ease off and milk volumes on the GDT auctions start
to decrease, that we that we see maybe a bit
more positive response later and well into the new year.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
There's not so much about New Zealand's situation though. I
think it's a case of places like Australia for example,
the milk's are play coming out of there at the moment.
There's a lot of volume.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yeah, yeah, certainly it is. There's a lot of volume
and several places around the world. But in saying that,
you know, farmers have been quick to respond in the
last eighteen months to high milk prices and put more
feed and then produce more milk, so you know, just
within New Zealand as well, so that is seeing an
(06:15):
increase in the whole milk powder in the mix and
on GDT options.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Well, it's a double edged sword. As well done. We
can pretty much put buttergate to bed now they dropped
twelve point four percent. But then we look to the
mint situation. Is now mintsgate based on the price of
mints and the supermarkets. But saying that as well, we
just look at what you're getting for a color animal
and it's a double edged sword. Perhaps any cows you're
thinking about taking out of your system, this is the
(06:43):
perfect time to do it. Yeah, it is. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Yeah, we sent a few scraggly ones away and you
know last week and we just had the statement through
yesterday and I was very, very pleasantly surprised at what
we've got for those. So yeah, this certainly made me
reflect on those headlines of mints prices and things, and
(07:10):
you can see why the mints prices jumped so much
when we're getting twice what we were getting only a
few years ago for for a mince. Cows here are.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
You're pretty confident we're going to see a solidifying of
the GDT as such after this.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Ah, Look, I wouldn't like to predict anything. I'm hopeful.
I'm hopeful, but you know, and like I say, that's
where things have gone traditionally in the past. But you
can never count on anything being normal.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
There's no real new normal anymore, I suppose when you
think about it.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
No, and that's you know, we've got a whole heap
of teriff barriers and bits and pieces in the mix
that not necessarily our tariff barriers, but other countries tariff
barriers that have bigger effects on their economy and how
that flows through to purchasing goods off us as well.
So yeah, there's a heap of heap of things in
the mix.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah. The terrorf situation is almost more of a reaction
as well.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Yeah, definitely, yeah, Yeah, And it seems to be no
rhyme or rhythm, and you can't you can't predict anything
on which way, whether they'll go up or down, will
stay the same.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Now it's like a box of chocolates. You don't know
what trup he's going to come up with next. Now
on the farm, we're getting towards the Christmas rush. How's
everything been.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Are you busy? Yeah? Yeah, dealing with a lot of
grass at the moment, which is a fantastic problem to have,
but certainly conversations around maintaining quality and things like that.
A lot of bailer's being made and crops and grass
that was in the ground nice and much earlier this year.
So I've still got a couple of peddicks myself to
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finish off, but hoping to get that nailed off as
it tries out a bit more, sort of closer to
the end of the week and over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
A lot of people talking about being too wet or
too dry, but a McNabb, you're holding pretty firm.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yeah, I mean the rain's been very tinly. It's been
talked about quite a bit, haven't it that. You know
that we had a good rain the other day and
it came and probably just in the nick of time,
just to keep things moving. It's not that we're in
a bad situation, but to keep things moving. And it's
looking good for Sunday Monday, looking pretty good to you
next week.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Absolutely, Hey, we'll leave it there, mate. Always appreciate your
time on the muster here just and the kids. You
enjoy the festive season. And you got anything in the
pipeline in particular.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yeah, we're actually we are. That's probably puts a bit
more pressure on we are. We're heading over to Odi
for a couple of weeks. So yeah, our oldest boy, Harry,
he's off to college next year, so we we're trapping
them all in in a camp Evan and traveling the
Great Ocean Road. So that'll be pretty neat experience we're
looking forward to, but a lot of years definitely having
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a bit of pressure to get the jobs ticked off.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Good on your dinoways, Appreciate your time. Good luck on
that scooter.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Yeah, cheers mate, We'll see you there.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Done more farming at McNab. Part of the fun. Here
a sharholder's counselor. You're listening to the Muster up next
David Frame from Craig's Investment Partners.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
The Muster Financial Segment brought to you by Craig's Investment
Partners Gore. This information is general in nature and is
not financial advice. Craig's Investment Partners Limited. Financial advice provided
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Speaker 1 (10:27):
David Framer, Craig's Investment Partners, joins us once again in studio.
Good afternoon, Good afternoon.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
How are you Andy?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I'm going really well, but let's be ho it's probably
not as good as you guys, you've got a.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
New building we have. We're really excited. We moved into
our new premises two weeks ago. So we are on
the corner of Ierk Street and Fairfield, opposite the New World.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
There's the best way to describe things a good not
actually streets, but just landmarks.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
Well most people go to the New worlder know where
it is. We're in the new building on the corner opposite.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
There you go. Now, it's been a busy a couple
of weeks for you guys. Firstly, we'll start off of this.
You've been doing your road shows. How's it been.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
It's been good.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
Yeah, we had a road show yesterday and Wyndham recently.
Small turnout but everyone was quite chatty today. We're all
be in Riversdale at two o'clock tomorrow, Moss been two
o'clock next week, winton O'tow Tower, Tapanui, Clyde Vale. So
happy just to have a chat with people over a beer.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
So you're just encouraging people to come along and just
talk about what they want to think about or what
they're thinking as far as an off farm investment and
the likes.
Speaker 7 (11:31):
Yeah, so we'll talk for ten or fifteen minutes. There's
a small presentation and then we'll just have a chat
with anyone that's got any questions.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Here's a couple of bevies and a bit of a
feed on as well.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
Oh definitely, yeah, the main attraction probably.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Nice, nothing better than that. Now, interest rates, the ocr
and the likes has been in the news well for
the year, let's be honest, but it's been a bit
of movement in that and arguably it's a good thing. Well,
it is a good thing, let's be honest.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Well, it is a good thing. Most people saw it coming.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
So the moved down to two point twenty five percent,
which is pretty low on historic levels and might not
move much more from here. So the general feeling is
that interest rates might be bottoming out. Some people are
still stuck on high fixed rates, so it's going to
take a while for these interest rates to flow through,
but it should help the economy in general.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
But these rates will flow through through. As you say,
what timeframe are you thinking, I think.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
There's something like half the borrowers are still on sort
of six percent ish or more. So by the time
that their rates flow off, then they should be somewhere
in four and a half to five percent.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
It depends what people do with their money.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
I guess when they go to refix again.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
So how would you clarify how would you sum up
the year? I suppose as far as the HOOSI interest
rates situation, I think it'd be pretty positive. From a
consumer viewpoint.
Speaker 7 (12:52):
It is positive. It's getting better every month. It's been
slowly getting better. Rural economy is doing quite well, are
going down. Still a bit of uncertainty out there, so
I think the retail sales are still poor this year,
but compared to the start of the year, we're definitely
in a better space.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Well, you can compare the mood of towns like Good
to other areas, and that it is December, granted, but
the likes of the main street, there's a real vibe
going on at the moment where there's been new businesses
open up case in point you guys have changed your location,
but also other especially in Irk Street. You know, it's
good to see those buildings getting filled up. And this
is all just a flow onto the rural economy.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
It is.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
It's great and it shows the confidence that people now
have where a couple of years ago everyone had their
hands in their pockets.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Would you say there's real confidence in the business sector
around good.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
I'd say in general there is. I can't think of
anyone that's been that negative. But most people are quite cheaper.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Certainly, it's not too cheaper. Unfortunately. Was the GDT the
global dairy trade overnight the eighth drop in a row,
and all of a sudden the pressure comes on the
milk payouts by the milk companies.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
Yeah, it seems to be we've been on a slide
for a while now. Whole milk powder price is down
two point four percent overnight, but it's down a lot
twelve point four percent. Different story going on there, but
it probably points to one way direction for the milk
price for the farmers next year, which is lower now.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
And hydro's milk fat back nine point eight percent, butter
back twelve point four percent, butter milk powder up one
point eight, chiller up seven point two, lectose four point
two it went up, mozzarella back one, skim milk powder
back one point six and the main driver, whole milk
powder back two point four percent.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
Yeah, which isn't too flash. The whole milk powder price
is almost back to where it was five years ago,
so it's been a slippery slope pretty much since the
start of the year. The payout should still be in
the nines. You would hope to next year, but it's
difficult to know if this trend continues.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
And it's not so much by the sounds of it.
It's not about the demand, but it's supply, and there's
a lot of a supply on the world market at
the moment.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
Yes, and it doesn't take much for some of those
other large milk producers to put some into the export
market and suddenly there's more supply than demand on the auction.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Is this just more of an indication though, where New
Zealand sits in the world scheme of things as far
as food supply, it.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
Is we've got quite a brittlely economy when you look
at the world stage, and we do well out of
our primary producing farms. The issue is that you know,
if someone else wants to compete heavily or has an oversupply,
some of their numbers can swamp us pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Absolutely so stand by there's one more GDT auction for
the years, so it'll be interesting to see if there's
a rebound. Now we look at currencies too. It's kind
of stabilized over the past couple of weeks since I
caught up with Sam. Like the Aussie dollar at the
moments eighty seven cents. New Zealand to the US is
fifty seven cents the UK is forty three pence, but
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it's still pretty low. But as an exporting nation, again
this works in our favor.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Yeah, it does help for the exporters. Importers.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
You'll probably notice petrol prices back up, some of those
imported goods will feel the brunt of But as an
exporting nation, we do benefit from a lower currency. It
has stabilized, which is good, and I believe the Reserve
Bank coming out giving a good summary last week help
the markets understand that New Zealand's doing okay and should
do better next year. And hence the dollar looks like
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it's firmed up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah. The fuel price, especially here in Gore, where it
is notoriously known for being cheaper than a lot of
places in New Zealand, and it's gone up. What's diesel,
it's almost just under two dollars in some places for
goodness sake.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
Yeah, ninety five petrol is now over two dollars eighty
in most places, so yeah, quite a jump.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
It's just that's probably the ebbs and flows the dollar.
Speaker 7 (16:48):
It correlates, really it does, and every household feels the
effects of that.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
So I mean, do you guys finish up for the year.
Speaker 7 (16:55):
We actually are open every trading day of the year,
every business day, but our Gore office will close for
the days in between Christmas and New Year, and clients
can call out eight hundred number or deal with one
of the other branches, so it'll give our team here
a good rest after a busy year.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
So the way of getting in touch with you guys,
you're still at the same phone number.
Speaker 7 (17:17):
Yep, same phone number, new address, one Erk Street, and
you can find us online at craigsip dot com.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Get on your David always good to catch up and
we'll catch up in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Excellent, Thanks Andy.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
David Frame of Craig's Investment Partners. You're listening to the muster.
Next we're going to Alora. We're catching up with Steve
Henderson dairy farming up there. We're down there to appear
as where you live.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Good. Who doesn't know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Who's a never left home?
Speaker 8 (17:51):
Who's never struck.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Out too fine. Steve Henderson of Alora joins us this
afternoon on the Muster. Good afternoon, Steve the checks. They
were once upon a time the Dixie Checks, but everybody
goes and changes their names like Andy's right.
Speaker 8 (18:05):
Yeah, all of but pc they still with the Dixie
Chicks to raft down here.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Still still good chains that way.
Speaker 8 (18:11):
Yeah, yep, there's toe tapping and.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Are seventy some days I feel like it down there
where you are. Anyway, how's it been.
Speaker 8 (18:24):
Of Blake. We've been pretty good. We've got to we
splash a rain like most other people on Sunday, and yeah,
we're we're probably we haven't had a like in early
December or late November like this in a long time.
It's usually by extreme or the other. So yeah, we're
still flat out top and trying to limit the seed
head and we're still getting some pretty good growth rates
out the back of it. So yeah, we're pulled a
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few bit of feed out of the shed and obviously
no toponment's gamable pet it, so yeah, it's actually make
Hi cheat milk, which is good for a change.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
So you're actually coping pretty well down there because depending
on who you speak to him, whichever part of Southland,
it's a different scenario here.
Speaker 8 (19:01):
We are well, it's all in perspective. We've only probably
out there just once today, so in perspective we are
actually going pretty good complete the other years. So no
conditions are good for getting most of the seed in
the ground. You still got the odd pets that you've
got to work around and then they'll dry up. But yeah,
as a whole well down pretty.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Good grass cavers, then they're looking okay.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
Yeah, there's crazy in the pastor ride right now actually,
so I think they would have buttoned back.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
We might be a.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
Visiged for COMMUNA twenty one fifty maybe average cover and
kills are leading really good residuals at the moment, So
we've already done one left of topping and we're a
selective of what we topp now because you know, if
the not warranting topping, you can burn a lot of
diesel just for stetics. So they made a way of
the seed in there for us to top them now
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and near the kills are cleaning them ups really good
and milk flier shine that too. The grass would have
fled oued, whereas last year. We started to fall off
the grass pretty quickly from now on and it's just
ready grass quality.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, it's an interesting how every season though such a
variance and what you're going to get here.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
It is, it is.
Speaker 8 (20:04):
You can do as many budgets and be prepared for
as much as you can, but yeah, it's just on
the day or on the week, you've got to adapt
to it, and you sort of you know, they say
have your things on the pulse, and you probably do
to a degree. You do need to know what kels
are leaving behind and how much speed's going into the
shed and the response, so you don't want to leave
too much in the pedicra way to food. So yeah,
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we've made a couple of calls in the last ten
days to pull them through feeding back to sort of
match what they're leaving in the peddocks. So yeah, and
it's good and it's good to be farming again. As
in you know, August September, September, October, we weren't really farming.
We were just reacting to what we had to do.
Now you can make those calls and see the results
and we're not getting made of by stuck in paddocks.
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And see it's enjoyable.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Works of the GDT result overnight. I've talked about this
with Dan Moore and Dave Frame just before. But you're
pretty much you're putting everything in perspective at the moment.
Speaker 8 (20:58):
Here we are, you know, we're obviously open country supplies
and at their supplied meetings they were they were talking
about the increase of milk coming on tap and that's
just respective I think of what's happening. But like everything
out there, and there's ways to huge your bet.
Speaker 9 (21:14):
So to speak.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
So we've got a bit bit of milk with milk
futures locked in.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
It.
Speaker 8 (21:20):
We've got ten dollars so that there's no different depicting
the interest rates or you know, taking a contract on
the imported feeds. So you just look at your top
top maybe three expenses in your top income, which is
obviously milk. So yeah, we always had your bets enough
to pay invoices and keep the bank happy.
Speaker 9 (21:38):
That's what we do.
Speaker 8 (21:39):
And then we're about half a percent of their milk
will usually huge each year. So yeah, it's just all
part and parcel. And it's obviously you know four or
five year game, not just the one new game.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
During I particularly enjoy the birds chirping in the background
while you're talking positive about the situation. It's a thing
of beauty, it is.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
And I don't know what happens in hour. I had
a comment it yesterday.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Can hear them now?
Speaker 8 (22:01):
There's only about two bloody chirpin and there's a trip
to riding in the background, which all the thoughts would
cover that. But anyway, it was a happy place.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Must be a good time at the hand of some fun.
This afternoon got to be.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
I look forward to it.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
You want to touch on this as well, regarding fires
and the likes fire permit season. That's what we all know.
What's been happening over the past couple of months down
here in the south. Trees down everywhere, still branches and
the likes and just a message you want to share.
Speaker 8 (22:27):
Yeah, so we we've actually had two different types of fires.
We had a trip to go and fire about two
weeks ago, and yeah, that was very close to a
dock block, which we've word so yep, yes, big thanks
to Kingswall. They got out and an afashionably well time
and got that fire out so it didn't quite get in.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
The duck block.
Speaker 8 (22:47):
I mean yeah, Well, obviously everybody's got a lot of
tree trimmings and branches. They've got to be current and
some are a bit more critical than others. So we've
got a couple that we're burning right now. Any young
grass head that we were trying to get in so
yet we've looked them up and we're in a zone
I think there's going to see down here. So were
we need permits all the time when you light a fire,
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But it's just being aware of what you're what you're doing,
what you don't do obviously today at the calm days,
so yes, let's hick the box and just keeping the
hedge piles well away from the head directly lighting was
There's been two or three incidents down here where there's
the pile being burned and then the winds got out
and they've been you know, team meters to the headline
that they've been pulled from and the fire crew has
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been out to put the head out. It's just that
it's almost just a waste of their bloody time when
they could be saving something more critical. So it's just
been mindful around that and if you need to light it,
light up. If you don't need to light. It just
wait for the weathers in the right situation and flying
in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Regetting your track though. Was it due to bird beasts?
Speaker 8 (23:50):
No, it wasn't, no, No, it had been just thing
all day. And then have our four in the afternoon
the trektor stopped on poor old Kellerman. There must have
been electrical to stop the tractor and then yeld in
a couple of minutes there was a flame and bear
tractors being tractors you know, but have always are here,
and plastics they just light up. So yeah, he was
pretty good. He rang me and then here we got
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on the case and he helped the old fires to
roll out some hoses and get it out because it's
just the unknown of what ken heaven. It could just
be an mber that goes up a bit high and
jumps into the dog block and then yeah, we're always
reasonably renowned for the old peat fires, so we didn't
want to be one of those fellows. It's not just
what happens on the Day's read the cushions, yeah, exactly.
Then they can last forever, and most of those peat
bogs they just continue underground and pop up, you know,
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four hundred meters for a k away and took a
months time and he continue to burn, so hopefully we
stomped it out as quick as we did.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
So that's your version of the Great Tire Fire and Springfield. Right, Yeah,
it was.
Speaker 8 (24:46):
Yet yet there was plenty of off colored smoke and
we didn't bring any sausages and they have time for that.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
But you know it was good and just finally as well,
you want to give a shout out to the IHC
caw Scheme.
Speaker 10 (24:58):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
So he's getting picked up this afternoon, no doubt with them,
along with probably hundreds of others them zelpland so here
they're going out to Launville and you've also got Algambrick
Friday and hospice going on in the same day, which
is a sol day to Mari, I know the calfs
are last wee week was pretty hot, and let's make
this one just as hot with you know, they're they're
all gifted calves and they all go to a good course.
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Because between those three charities, I do you say, everybody
will know someone that's been involved in them, and it's
a it's a quick, easy way for you know, afters
cockies to give back to those organizations, but no doubt
we'll see in the near future.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Absolutely, Steve, Hey, we'll leave you to it with some
toe tapping the checks and those little birdies chirping the
background as a thing of beauty.
Speaker 8 (25:40):
We will no are things and conning back.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Steve Anderson, you're listening to the muster before the end
of the year. And Nathan Nelson of Derry and Z up.
Next from Growing Future Farmers, Wendy Paul. She traveled this
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road as a child, this as a master on Hakanoi.
Wendy Paul out of Growing Future Farmers joins us this afternoon. Wendy,
always good to catch up.
Speaker 10 (26:15):
How are you, Hey, Andy, I'm great, Thank you, Thanks
for having us on.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
You're always ready to catch up. Now, this is a
really cool initiative, Growing Future Farmers. You've got a new
agreement or such with Fonterra or new thing happening. What's
going on.
Speaker 10 (26:30):
Yeah, it's a great thing for us, big milestone in
terms of the evolution of GFF. So, yeah, we've been
in conversation with Fontarira for about a year and a
bit around the opportunity to partner with them. They've obviously
seen our model as something that's interesting to them around
transferable way of training differently, and they also have a
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broader career to resent a dairy strategy which is a
long term commitment through to twenty forty to support the
future workforth needs of cooperative So the alignment was really
strong in terms of this age group of attracting and
giving opportunities for young people leaving school is a different
way to get into dairy and it aligns perfectly with
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gff's long term strategy of greater impact. So we're very
excited to see.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Where it goes.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Well, it's always good to get young people involved into agriculture,
but especially when schemes like this are made available.
Speaker 10 (27:23):
Yeah, I mean the big thing is that we know
the demands there from young people and it's just about
giving them visibility and opportunities and how obviously from a
broader context, we know that we're going to need this
workforce path line or talent pathline, but sometimes they don't
quite know how to get in. So this just gives
another another opportunity for those young people to get into dairy,
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which in the sector which we very much focus on on,
how do we just open up those pathways?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah, looking here as well. Fonterra is talking about their
broader care careers and dairy strategy. It's a long term
commitment through to twenty forty to support future workforce sneeze
and highlight the diversity of opportunities across across the cooperative.
So there's a lot of different revenues as far as
career that people can choose from. That's the beauty absolutely.
Speaker 10 (28:13):
I mean, obviously our program focuses on getting skills on farm,
but that's just step one. As they get more aware
of what's out there. We've seen some of our gradgeates
go into multiple different sort of every careers and I
think the same will be in this case where obviously
Frontier is a huge employer for New Zealand and there
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I've been through it myself eighteen and a half years.
There there's a wonderful sort of popeline of all sorts
of opportunities that may be on farm but also could
be in factories, all in their global network of sales.
There's so many different opportunities and this is just the
first step in the window into those into those possibilities.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
So who are you looking at applying for this as such?
Wendy so for this one.
Speaker 10 (28:58):
It's a pilot just to make sure you test the
concept can work in dairy. So we're looking at similar
age groups, so that's sixteen to twenty, but it is
focused just purely at the moment in the White Caado
and Bay of Plenty, So they are only going to
be a small number of slots available or placements for
roughly around ten. But anybody who lives in or can
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move to the Why Caado and Bay of Plenty in
that age group with all the criterion attributes that we
look for, and young people can apply.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
So it's all about attitude making the difference.
Speaker 10 (29:31):
Yeah, I mean, you know, that's one of the biggest
thing we look for is the right attitude, willingness to learn,
and a good work ethic so that they can come
in and be a mastered to themselves but also to
those farm trainers that are investing in their futures as well.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
So as far as the cost for people that apply,
is there anything involved.
Speaker 10 (29:50):
Not to the students know, other than the basic stuff
that we talk about in the sets that they've got
to come with some equipment laptops and farm gear and
to have a restricted license. But they don't there's no
there's no students fee or program fees for this.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Pilot, so there's going to be like on farm mentorship obviously,
regional student meetups as well, so they can collaborate students
and just chew the fat and see how the progress
is going to Yeah.
Speaker 10 (30:18):
Absolutely, you know that the model will be very similar
to our existing shep Beef and Deer in the sense
that the students are on their own farms four days
a week and then they get to be part of
the cohort at least one day a week. In some weeks,
it may be more when they're doing more group training,
but their idea is to very much create that sense
of community and collaboration as a as a pilot cohort.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
The prospective students, Wendy, how can they apply?
Speaker 10 (30:43):
So please go on our website. There's a specific dairy
page on our website. They can apply through that, but
if they've got any questions, just to call us on
our number which is on the website oh to one
three one five five three four, and we can answer
any questions.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Good on you, Wendy. You always good to catch up.
You enjoy the afternoon.
Speaker 10 (31:03):
Thank you so much, Andy, Thanks for having us.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Who doesn't Wendy Paul, chief executive of Growing Future Farmers.
Always good to see initiatives like this taking off as well. So,
like Wendy said, if you're curious about this as it
is based in the Waykado Bay offmedi region and nonetheless
certainly avenues for people looking at getting into the dairying
sector from a young a young age Growing Futurefarmers dot
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co dot NZ as well or get in touch oh
to one three one five y three four regarding a
pilot intake for early twenty twenty six. Nathan Nelson of
daryan Zi joins us. Next when.
Speaker 8 (31:47):
Such a.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Welcome back to the muster, Nathan Nelson of Dairy and
Zed catches up once again. Nathan Good, Ugh to know.
Speaker 11 (32:01):
Good Andy, get to be with you again.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yeah, good to catch up. It's obviously all guns to
the guttle and the lead up to the busy season.
Speaker 11 (32:10):
Yeah, it certainly is on the on the dairy front
with obviously in the middle of our sort of homegrown
feed maximizing homeground feed events and between that and actually
juggling what needs to be done on the phone, whether
it's getting some mowing gune or some baialage or crops
in the ground. Cows obviously been mated as well, and
probably better chat about winning some cars and hopefully getting
them off to their support blocks as well.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yeah, just before we talk about that. As far as
feed covers, how's it looking, because it sounds as it's
feast or famine as far as moisture around the province,
depending on who you speak to.
Speaker 11 (32:42):
Yeah, look where were yesterday, Winton. We're sort of Capuca
today and will be Bayswater sort of glad Vale tomorrow.
So yeah, sort of probably central Western I suppose looking
a picture to be honest. Yeah, they're a bit of
pre grade mowing going on and good, good covers and yeah,
set up reasonably well there. But yeah, definitely very rearable
(33:04):
across the chat. I think you and I were having
that conversation off here even us today. Sort of weather
pattern a little bit of a thunderplump where we were
coming to town and it was sort of dry as
so Yeah, certainly quite rearable across the province, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
So weaning weights and calves something you'd like to come
in on today, Nathan, Yeah.
Speaker 11 (33:22):
Look, it's probably that time of the year some preps
already into that, just depending on wearing systems and carving
dates on farm. But yeah, certainly sort of thinking about that.
It's probably just one of those extra jobs at this
time of the year, very much a juggle between getting
everything done. But I suppose if we were going to
do it by the book and set up for scales,
obviously that's the most accurate way of doing it. So
(33:45):
again guidelines. Everyone's going to have their own sort of
views around this, but we would probably say like minimum
weights if you're running more that sort of Jersey breed,
seventy five plus kilos over the scales, if you're into
that more crossbread typing of those minimum and then up
to that sort of top end prision range anywhere from
ninety five to sort of one hundred kilos over the scales,
(34:06):
and then yeah, probably the other key thing with that
as well was if they're on that at least a
kilo of meal being consumed probably one of the things
that most people will know, but just that sort of
whole diet change around. Yeah, weaning and going out to
support blocks or wherever those replacement cars are going to
be kept. Ideal, if you could keep a little bit
of meal going into them just while they're going sort
(34:28):
of through that transition phase. Yeah, at least maybe a
couple of weeks, a couple of three weeks, just to
keep that sort of consistent feed going into the diet
that they were on the home farm and where they're
going to for grazing. So, yeah, if you're going to
do it by the book, certainly those are sort of
the guidelines to be aiming for.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Well, just calf management one oh one, just maintaining ways.
Speaker 11 (34:50):
And putting it on Yeah, absolutely, and probably secondary to that,
you know, like that's ideal. The roalde is we've always
got maybe a few cars that are whatever reason, had
a little health check in their rearing system or just
a bit later carving, or I don't know, just maybe
poor doers. It's again depending on mob sizes and what's possible,
but really probably the only practical option for them is
(35:13):
whether they can actually be sort of run a bit
separate or almost sort of treated. Is that, yeah, sort
of separate mob I guess, just to reduce a bit
of competition or try and get a bit of fresh
feed going into them and help them get up to
weights there. I say a little bit of compensatory growth
if that's an option, and probably one of the other things,
which again just sounds dead obvious, but we probably see
(35:35):
you know, this have a big impact on growth raats
or certainly check young stock carves. Is just that access
to clean fresh water and certainly some of these days
are a bit warmer. But yeah, it's just sort of surprising,
like it sounds obvious, but that sort of Yeah, clean
water can have a big impact on actual growth raats
as well for those replacement heaths getting off to a
(35:57):
good start.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
And the other thing today ball management. It's all about
being safe.
Speaker 11 (36:03):
Yeah, look, I think that's the key thing.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Obviously.
Speaker 11 (36:06):
Again we've got listeners with a whole range of different systems.
Some are obviously running the all ab or sort of
using the wearables, but we've probably got just as many
that are still maybe a bit more of a traditional
mix of artificial breeding and balls and probably coming to
that stage where some are looking at bringing balls back
onto farm to run with the mix stage cows. So yeah,
(36:26):
I think probably the key messages for this time of
the year. I'm make sure those bulls probably land on
farm like nobody likes having them around, but they do
need to be on farm probab at least a week
or ten days before you actually need to use them,
just to check that any lameness or any injuries or
just sort of yeah, give them that little bit of
rest or boost period before you're actually going to need
to use them. But certainly probably that chat with the
(36:49):
team on farm they need to be managing them, just
a get obvious things like mark them up or paint
them so they're reasonably easy to actually identify. Just have
a bit of a yarn around what your plans are
and how to deal with them and how you're actually
going to manage them on farm, and just keep that
safety top of mind, to be honest as the keeping
and they're obviously you know, charged up and keen to
(37:11):
do their jobs. So yeah, it's that's just having that
set around it, isn't it to be honest And again
just a couple of obvious tips there is, you know,
land them on farm, keep them in their mobs as
far as their ball teams go, because again they're obviously
working out their dominant structures and who wants to be
the boss, So if you are rotating balls around, which
(37:31):
would encourage just keep them in their same mods if possible,
unless they obviously get lame or injured, and then yeah,
probably again, like from a technical point of view, the
working ratio to of thirty thirty cows to one working ball,
and I suppose that's the key as long as that
ball's in working order. Sometimes a good idea, depending on programs,
(37:52):
to have a few extra balls going to cover that,
you know, say weeks sort of five and six and seven,
and then just assess as you're going through, if they're
not in a heck of a lot of work and
you're confident around your repro results and they're just scrapping them,
possibly actually take tax some out and then probably just
the other side as well, just keeping yourself covered from
(38:14):
a bi security point of view, a disease point of view,
if you are bringing those animals and off farm the like,
just make sure that they have got their disease statuses
as far as BBD or TV or YONIS and some
of those nasties that you're probably working pretty hard to
keep out of your herd. Just make sure they're either
coming with those certificates or have those vaccines and sort
(38:34):
of verified. Because last thing you want us obviously introduce
a disease or something into your herd through that pathway.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Absolutely nice. Always appreciate your time on the master.
Speaker 11 (38:44):
Good to catch up things.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
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Speaker 2 (39:34):
A little little.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
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did it go on again?
Speaker 11 (39:39):
For him?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
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how do we go?
Speaker 9 (39:51):
Good day? Here we go on years? It was good.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Thanks.
Speaker 9 (39:53):
We had a smaller yarding today, but what was then
sold very well. We'll keep rolling into it. Last season
two hundred and eighty three hundred dollars for the tops,
middles two hundred and two fifty. There wasn't much of
a bottom here. Today we had some spring lambs in
which was the siding the tops, and then went for
two hundred and three fifty, and the stores of the
(40:14):
spring lambs are at one fifty to one seventy. They
had caught a reasonable yard in the rams, and today
they went from one to twenty for the tops and
seventy dollars for your light and middle end.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Years.
Speaker 9 (40:24):
Getting into the end, they're still going very strong through
seventy three fifty for the tops, one seventy to one
ninety for the middles, and in the lighter end were
one hundred and ten to one hundred and forty. It
was good good share run in the south, which is
really per every one up that time a year. Again
if you have got your rams sorted out, have ay
(40:47):
we count up and get talking to your local agent
for local ram breeder and our next kettle sale will
beyond the seventeenth of December. That it was the fourner
one for the year.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Thank you very upper man telling things that are you
was in our good name.
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