September 3, 2025 • 45 mins
Andy Muir talks to Mark Dillon, Peter Gardyne, Penny Simmonds, Aaron Meilke, Hua Tamariki and David Morrison.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Every wants and then journal, Good afternoon, and welcome to
the muster on Hokinilli. I'm Andy Muller here until to
our clock thanks to Peter's genetics, thanks to your company.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
As we look out over Main.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Street here, cloudy skies, the sun trying to peek through,
but generally temperature wise, not too bad all things considered.
But before we go any further as well, the all
whack team is out interesting to say the least. The
Greek keeps his position Taylor Newell, Barrett Vay, Simon Parker
at number six, Saver number eight, so Titi Finlay, Christi Barrett, Jouanni,
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Rico Yowani, Jordi Barrett, Proctor Narrower and Jordan impact Or
reserves takey Ajo Williams, Lomax, Holland Kurriffy Preston Tupia and
Damie McKenzie. Interesting team and the box are paying. Telor
was forty at the ten. So going to be an
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interesting game for what is going to be a hell
of a weekend for rugby, especially if you're a Stags fan.
Brin Campbell's had Tunes five Day four casts brought to
you by Twin Farm teff rom and saff techs.
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Speaker 1 (01:21):
This afternoon brings showers of breezy nor westleys and fifteen.
Friday showers of brisk r westleies two and thirteen. Saturday
showers of brisk west nor westerlies.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Three and nine.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Sunday morning showers the north westerlies forming zero and day
and Monday sunny.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
With breezy r Westerly six and fourteen.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
So temperatures to hand northern south from six point five
River to eight point five, Tiadel six point nine, tinor
Row at eight point one, Winton seven and.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Woodlands seven point three.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Mark Dylan starts us off, coming to us all the
way from Prague and the Czech Republic where he's competing
in the World Plowing Championships. We catch up with Bib
see how things are going. Peter gardin farms at Netdale,
but closer to home getting into lambing moment now, so
we catch up with Pete see how things have been.
Penny Simmons, MP from mcargos on the show. Aaron Meek
(02:09):
on the beef Lambslot talking about Bella. What is Bella?
Here's a hint it's sort of do of technology and
hu Are Tamadikey Reggie South and chief executive ahead of
the Stags for a shield defense against Kennbury at the weekend.
And Dave Morrison from PGG Rights and starting us off
with a stock style report out of children. So the
music's finished, through a bit to carry on and we'll
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start the hour next with Mark Dillan.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
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District Council working together for a better Southland bar.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
The rule.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
With the heavy away over to the Czech Republic this
afternoon on the Muster Mark Dlon plowman extraordinaire once again
at the World Plowing Championships, who was over there last
year at the event in Estonia. He's there again this
year and surprise, surprise, he's away back over for next
year's edition as well, and he joins us once again
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this afternoon as they start to get organized for the
World Plowing champs on the fifth and sixth of September.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Bob good, afternoon, How things.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, not to hurt any How's everything going over on
the other side of the world in the plowing sense
of suppose?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Well, There've been a bit of rain this week, which
is really well forming because two weeks ago we had
thirty six degree days, which is a bit hot for
our self infuliments has come from the way of the
climate that yeah, so we've adapted to that. But yeah,
we hit a few issues with a gear just bending parts,
but we managed to source some new parts, so we've
got in bolded that hopefully that's going to help the process.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Thirty six degrees your v Neick Tenill looks spectacular.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Yeah, yeah, no, barent up what nicely the Soccolone is
going to be great when I get.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
In general over there. Though the season, how's it been.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Been hot? Of the normal end has been been sort
of more sporadic where there's both someone theleagning you know,
really went at harvest and then they've had a good
run while we've been here and all the abs hold
it up and some of the goal as the started seating.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Now, last time we spoke to you, you were getting
prepared for the event. What's happened since then is are
pretty much just practicing and refining your play out in.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
The lead up.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Yeah, it has been yet practicing different soil work, different
soul talks and the soul has been churning a bit
with the moisture too, So just trying to work on
the what angle we're going to take it in and
you're trying to get the best result with game.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
What's a soil type like the stuff we're.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
In today, Well, there has been the grass for practicing
the other that I was really hard, be a real,
very very sensitive. You're only just a play a couple
of meals here there, and that makes a big difference
stuftware and a piture grass land today I said a
bit of moisture on it, but it's quite undulating and
they probably cut it for three weeks ago, so it's
quite a bit of growth on it as well. So
whether we can we beginning to the isshill body work
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at the play on what it's going to be a
lot to get the grass period might be a challenged, but
there the ghosts look seeing the behaling.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
When it comes down to the drawing of the plot
to say if they have much of a bearing on
the event as such.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Oh, definitely last year in Estonia, the ground we had
in the practice, we were lucky enough we probably had
some of the beast stuff in the Patticant. We're singing
that things are going really well, and then on the
day it's some real stuff, gluggy stuff, which you probably
did the death of Cook as I could have, and
it didn't ed that was it didn't place as well
as all the lucks. But the plot drawer is a
huge part of it.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
So when do you find out which plot you've got?
Speaker 5 (05:24):
We draw plots would be we've got church service tonight
to reddication and in the prior to a church and
then I think that must be tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
We have plot draw the location of whereabouts you guys
are doing these world chairs.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
You're not far from Prague, is that right?
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Yeah, it's only about well, if you get are or
a bolt, best six k's into ten and we're actually
right in the front path of the emport. So plans
Plainsley coming past here about every three to seven minutes.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I suppose as far as logistics that's a good thing. Yeah,
I know.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
We just well we've got a rental carre at the
report and drive up to the university we were staying,
so I think it's about fifteen k's then to the
eport and sexty seven caves into town, so that seemed
enough go day.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
So when it comes down to doing your plowing as
such and you're trying to get the perfect furrow, just
how fun are the margins of what you're looking for?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I mean, we talk about all.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
These guys at the top of the game and ladies
for that matter. What is the difference between first and
say sixth place for example? How fine are we looking?
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Oh, poorts bars can only be down to some days
if it was really taught half a point between first
and second. So there's there's does I suppose you eat
you twenty different speaks, and then there's speci eight ports
from one to teen, so then you get the different
three panels of judges. So if he can get teams
and everything was perfect, but if you're getting six and
sevens and then they go beside just getting seven to night.
So it heads up to the end of the day
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to give you that phonal school.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
So when you're practice saying how many hells? The data
is edententail.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
We usually get in the car before right we're trying
to be out here at the panic well this morning,
we're in the pedict play on the day and then
we usually work until four fold each day we're getting
the furias and and I think I'll put about two
hundred leaders a days through the water already.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Well as far as fuel on the light, do you
have sponsorship for that over there or is that all
just off your own back?
Speaker 5 (07:04):
That's off our own back. But I've worked. I suppose
I have a lot of sponsors come on board. That
goes in the pot, and whether it gets allocated to
fund maintenance or fuel or travel or keeping their sales
hydrated and feeding stuff like.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
That, keeping a sales hydrated. I like that term. So
how many people? How many competitors are you up against?
Speaker 5 (07:23):
There's twenty six in the conventional and I think there's
twenty two in the reversible.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And who are the ones to look out for? Who
are your main opposition?
Speaker 5 (07:32):
I suppose that's one of the old The Irish guy here,
he's a Martin Coey, he's an older chip. I think
he's eighty one. He's still playing. He's won the World's
four times or four times. And there's multiple weather guess
here they've got world titles as well. Scotsman Andrew Mitchell,
he's won three or four world titles. Yeah, but looking
around the field, there's a lot of tough comps of competition,
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especially looking here in the grass brickiness has been real
party playing and done.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
An eighty one year old is a four time world champion.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Yeah, he hasn't played for a few years, but here's
one or four times in the past.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
That's unreal.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Now, we talked about this last time. The camaraderie is
it the same feeling at the event this year? Is
what you've seen last time?
Speaker 5 (08:11):
You've probably even better, like it's what you get to
know people but more and then there's a few of
the young fellows that have played on this year too,
so you're catching up with you seeing you're looking at
the playing throwing what he's around, give him a bit
of benter Now.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
As far as the feeling towards New Zealand, over there
in New Zealand agriculture is such, I mean we're hearing
about door meets of alliance of the likes. Has that
brought up in conversation at all when you're talking to
these people from over the EU Europe play, No, that hasn't.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Really come up and compt lot of people coming up
and asking about what this all doot's going to be
like in twenty nine, and he has a bit of
a buzz around count around there and a lot of
people are really ten to commit to New Zealand and
so we can showcase what's going on.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
So just put it into context.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Twenty twenty nine is going to be held at Riversdale,
the World Plowing Champs. Logistically, what what are you planning
on as far as the event? I mean you've been
there off and on up now to know what it needs.
What's it going to take to pull it off?
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Well, we've got a great committee and I'm pretty confident
we'll pull it off and run a really good event.
Says yeah. Putting the logistics to Chip to get the
shipping people around. But the commendation sid, we've got the
disordered already, end us having good tools and stuff in
the good ground and you know, well with the probably
the thing over here, the workshop was licking a little
first up. We're lucky at the Farmer it was really
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well quick for the marshaling Ad was a bit slove
to mark, but they caught up again now so they've
got worlders and grinders and stuff here fir us. So
if we need to do any modifications or change any shoes,
it's just just go back to the ad and get
into it and get done what you need to do.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
This might sound a little cliche, Bob, but but do
you get a Playoman's lunch for a feet.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Yeah, you do, you do, just get a lunch of it.
We paid breakfast in the mornings and then we heat it.
They get a pick lunch and we've got a camp
cheese and the back of the car. So we pulled
them out and heavy a lunch and a dB and
a little bit of out about what we're doing and
what we thin to make things work better than what
we couldn't.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Hey, awesome, Bob. Always appreciate your time. All the best
for the event. We're all backing you. And once again
I am stunded at how easily I can talk to
you on the other side of the world, and I
struggle to talk to somebody twenty five meters away from
me here on the main street of Gore on cell phones.
But nonetheless, all the best for the next couple of
days a and we've got you back.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Enjoy it.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Alsome things any much presured.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Mark Dylan Plow, I'm an extraordinary over near Prague at
the World Plowing Champs on the fifth and sixth of September,
so we'll look out for results of this with eager
interest as well. All the best of vibe over there
on his travels and his wife Sonya as well. Peter
Guardin's up next, a bit closer to home. He's at Napdale.
You're listening to the muster.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Serven Nights.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Have you ever felt servan?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Peter Garden and Farms and Napdale and joins us Pete,
good afternoon. The song is Southern Nights by Glenn Campbell.
I think it's fair to say everybody listening to this
can agree with that lyric. Yes, you have experience of
Southern Nights, especially at this time of year with cows
in the carving mode and lamb's and the pen.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Defeed, it's all go.
Speaker 7 (11:25):
All go, and it's a cracking So long a Glenn Campbell.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I'm starting to appreciate his music more and more. He's
got some absolutely wicked tunes here. When I go through
it all, so yeah, I tend to play it more
often than not because there's music that a lot of
people agree with, right.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
Oh, and it's that great easy listening sort of stuff
that you can have on in the background, and a
lot of those songs have got a lot more subsistence
to them than some of the modern one STEI say it,
but that makes me start to sound like getting old andy.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
How's everything looking out there on the farm?
Speaker 7 (11:56):
Yeah, it taken away pretty good either, stud's lambing. We
just threw them a weet bit earlier to get them
over and done with. And then we're drafting up commercials
over the last couple of days and they'll start this weekend.
And we have played a couple of peddicks, so that's
pretty exciting.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Too, because we tend to forget spring should actually be
a positive time for growth and everything. Last year, hopefully
you blip on the radar, but you're always optimistic when
you're head into September.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
Oh definitely. And fertilizer on, whether it's good or whether
it's bad. And I just think if you get it
on in the spring, you've got the use of it
for the whole season, especially that sulfur that just leaches
away and it doesn't need to go on every twelve months.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Do you normally have your throred on by now or
you are hit of the bull there.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
If we're doing granular, we do sort of a split application.
We will do sulfur and maybe some nitrogen and some
selenium and cobalt early on, and then follow up with
some can and pea later with the option of using
in again or not. And this year we've gone back
to more of a super based products. It's cost effective
and it covers are looking good, so we have no
need for nitrogen, which excites me. If we don't have
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to use it, it's a dollar saved and.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
You've got split lambing dates.
Speaker 7 (13:10):
Only with the stud some players. We do do some
old girls a bit earlier or some terminals bit earlier,
but we haven't this year just from just how things
were going in the autumn. Yes, I know we're not
too bad on that front.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I think it's a time of the year as well.
You want to touch on this to tape Hete.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
We just need to look at a few positives that
are going on in the sector, because when you're getting
into the grind of the September mode, you just got
to put things into perspective. Right.
Speaker 7 (13:37):
Oh, definitely. I did a article and it ends up
in a newspaper this time last year, and there's just
some lemming tips and I couldn't believe him in a
positive feedback we've got from it. And yeah, I'd probably
flooral my English teachers if they heard had written an
article for the paper. But yeah, I just I reckon
setting up for Lemming, if you can get away for
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a long weekend or something before Lemming's good and then
remembering that it is. It is just a part of
the year, and the most important thing is the people
and then the stock after that. And yeah, just having
all those systems in place, you know, good tires and
your bike and some patient with gear, a few jackets,
getting holy go by another one. They've probably got an
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end of years season, end of winter, especially on them
in the shops, and I can a few treats on
the walls. You go a long way a.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Well on a landing beat, especially if there's only a
couple of you going around, say.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Three three two us or whatever, and.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
It's all guns to the gunnel. You just got to
think outside the square a bit. I'm not so much
thinking outside of the square, but like you say, just
having a bit of having smoke on a regular basis
during the day and just keeping people engaged because it
can be had.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
Yaka oh definitely. And probably the thing on that front
is I actually reckon a long lunch at laming time.
If you don't have heaps of stuff you're having to
do that day, if you can have a few long lunches,
I reckon that's a great thing, because.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
What how does the day look for you on the
Lemming beat? What time you outside?
Speaker 7 (15:01):
We're trying to be out by seven as the aim.
And then you know, we flick around. We're sort of
we looked them once or twice a day, usually twice
a day on the flats. Pretty fortunate. They come from
a family that was really good at tagging all the
problem sheep, so we we tagging any other hands problems
and we don't breed from them. And we're massive fans
of terminal sorrows obviously, so on the easier tire of
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the flat land side of things. And then their parent
does on the hill. Of course, they get spread out
or they got spread out last week or end of
this week, started this week, sorry, and they won't be
seeing until tailing time. So yeah, that and then yeah
we'll knock off, usually usually working seven till six thirty
or seven till seven, but you know, you know, have
an hour and a half, a lunch some days, if
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the if, the day lut, and.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
The other thing you wanted to cover off as well.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
While you're on the seat talking about the sector as such,
the widest sector and younger people coming through the industry,
which is always something to celebrate. Of course, you've had
a lot of skin on the game of young farmers
over the years. I have my regular catch up with
the team every Tuesday. But you've been talking to a
couple of individuals recently who really give you hope that
the younger generation are coming through.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
Oh, definitely. This is the twentieth Lemmings. So I think
I'm probably transitioning from a younger farmer to a middle
aged farmer now which has come out of the closet
and say that, I guess, and a couple of guys
that probably i'd say eight ten years younger than me
that I've been talking to you lately, and their ability
to think without too much tradition and not throwing away
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the fundamentals, but really pushing the boundaries of what's out
there and not being bound by you know, I guess
negative opinions or traditional sort of things that how this
spect that we're good reasons back in the day, but
now maybe aren't as relevant. And things like one of
the guys doing the same as what we do, killing
all the dry hoggits because there's no money in them,
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and you know, not being scared of buying in some
views if you need some extra ones. And yeah, just
a couple of guys are just a real breath of appreciated.
They're both running their own businesses. They're both doing some
pretty cool stuff. And you know, I just think if
you've got a guy like that around, you just just
let them go about and let them, let them get
into it, let them try some things. And yes, not
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everything that they'll do, and not everything that I've done
has worked. But we didn't get to where we've got
as an industry by doing the same things that we
we're doing one hundred years ago. And the evolution you know,
in sheep farming from like my grandfather's day is like
day and night. He said. Back in the day, they
were probably handling a third of their sheep at living time,
and I mean it's nothing like that now. And you know,
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like what our granddads and our dads did and what
we did when we were younger. We did push the
boundaries out and that's how the industry's got to where
it's got to. And there's a lot of things that
are good. There's a lot of things are bad. But
like the Sheep and New Zealand, they've they've done a
pretty good job at you did it gain in the
last one hundred and fifty odd years, and I don't
think we should limit that to where it is now.
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I think we just need to keep pushing ahead.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Just one final thought for you.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
You say there's a young farmer, you're now a middle
aged farmer. When do you officially become an old farmer?
Speaker 7 (18:10):
Well, I think i'm safely still a few years away
from No.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
No, When I come, I'll come on what ages? What
age is an old farmer?
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Take?
Speaker 7 (18:17):
Well, I had this discussion with my wife a few
years ago and I said, well, if you're going to
live till your ninety rough speaking up until when you're thirty,
you're young. From thirty to sixty your middle age, and
from sixty to ninety year old. So that's what I'll
throw out there, and I'll probably get some abuse from
of the section, now, won't I?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Andy, Oh, I'm still middle aged mate. I'll take that.
I'll let you carry on. These are you going nuts
in the background? Always good to catch up.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
Sounds good, So still be.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Pete Gardine of Napdale. Shout out to all.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
The young, middle aged old farmers out there. Penny Simmons
MP from the Cargoar Minister for the Environment. We're going
to catch up next.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
This is the master she wes Welcome back to the
Mussar on Hokui.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Penny Simmons MP for him for Cargo as well as
Minneso for the Environment amongst other portfolios, joins us once again.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Good afternoon, Penny, Yes.
Speaker 8 (19:17):
Good afternoon. Lovely to be spending a day in Southland
after I've spent a febit of time over the last
few days. We've had a couple of weeks of recess
and so I've been all over the country. I've been
to Blenham and Nelson and christ Church and Napier and Palmerston,
North manikou Auckland and Hamilton, visiting the politechs there and
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meeting with mayors and community leaders, but also doing a
few environmental visits. So it's lovely to be back in
southlad for a day or two.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, talk about what you've been up to, especially around
the wineries in Blenham and waste. You talk about waste
these days, just in any way, shape or form, and
everybody's trying to do the best for the environment.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
What's happening there.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
Yeah, see, well that's right they are. And of course
we hear a lot about the farming wastewater and things
like that, but actually many sectors have got real issues
with disposing of waste, and certainly in the wine sector
they have considerable wastewater, but also organic waste after pressing
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the grapes and skins and things like that, so they've
got fairly significant issues there. Sometimes it is used for
animal feed, but that depends on whether there's a need
for it, how the grass situation is. And of course
there's not a lot of dairy farms around blend them
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and so actually being able to transport the waste to
the farms is quite expensive. So yeah, they've got some
real issues because all that organic waste going into landfill
is not great. So they are looking at what options
they've got for composting and other things like that. But yeah,
we forget that other sectors really are the main producers
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of waste going also to the construction sector. Seventy percent
of what goes a landfills across the country is construction
and demolition waste and of that eighty percent of soil.
So we are putting an enormous amount of soil into
our landfills, which is ridiculous. I don't think that's happening
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so much in the regions I think, and particularly down here,
we're a bit more canny. We don't like spending money
on waste levees putting soil into landfills. So you see
buns around new houses with planting on them, and around
industrial sites. But it is a real issue in terms
of the cost of building and demolishing, having to take
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away so much waste and going to our landfills. But
going back to the wine industry, it was really interesting
to discuss with a number of the wine makers the
state of the New Zealand industry. Prices are set and
they're having a really tough year, there's no doubt about it.
But wine consumption across the world is declining. However, New
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Zealand is something against the trends in terms of the
volume and mount of wine that is being exported from
New Zealand is still increasing and our price is still
keeping strong in comparison to a number of other areas,
so they are going something gains against the worldwide trends
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of consumption decreasing. But they are still growing their industry,
which is great for New Zealand. But they're doing it
tough this year, which kind of reminds us of their
primary sector. There are always cycles within the sector, aren't they.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
You know, when.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
Red meat and wool and dairreas going up, we forget
that there are other parts of the primary sector, like
the wine industry that's feeling it really tough at the moment.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Well, that puts them into perspective. Waste from the agricultural
side of life, and you talk about those numbers regarding
waste from the building fraternity.
Speaker 8 (23:20):
Yes, yeah, it's really significant and of course it adds
to the cost of building. So we are looking now
as commissioned some work within the ministry and looking at
how we can use the soil better, how we can
be less strict about the contamination, because some of the
soil that's going away is really lightly contaminated or not
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contaminated at all. So just looking at some of the
things that we are doing and how we might be
able to change it, and of course the waste levy
increasing is making it more viable for other alternative.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
How would you describe the mood amongst the vinyard owners
considering these tariffs have been implemented.
Speaker 8 (24:03):
Yeah, look pretty subdued. Interestingly, the winery that I visited
with Kim Crawford one which is American owned, So they're
pretty subdued about the impact that the tariffs are going
to have because North America is a particularly strong market
(24:24):
for a lot of our wine makers. But you know,
they've been through tough times before and they are just
trying to work with reducing their costs and increasing their
marketing and looking for the market regions. So doing those
kinds of things that we all do once you get
hit with some additional costs, and they are finding it
(24:47):
particularly tough this year, There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Right, we'd better mention the stags hiding around fairly shield.
I pity the individuals that you put a Monday afternoon
if it happened to have been on it happened to
have been on a thirty our flight from the other
side of the world. Rovan and the cargo right and
all these people there waving placards and everything.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Because you had to wait for the other passengers to
get off.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
The plane, you're absolutely naked, and all of a sudden
you walk in there and all this yah hoing's going on.
But it was for a right course, I suppose, wasn't
it the Stags coming through there?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
And you'll agree with us, how good was it? Oh?
Speaker 8 (25:20):
Look, just brilliant.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
I couldn't be there.
Speaker 8 (25:22):
I actually flew out to Awkward just a couple of
hours before it, so I wasn't there, but I sent
a card of congratulations round. But jee, it was great.
Just watching the game was fantastic. You sat there with
sort of nervous anticipation that the tide was going to turn.
But once we got to I think it was about
the twelve minute mark before the end of the game,
(25:42):
I thought, actually, we've got this. They can't turn it
quickly enough now. And it was tremendous, Absolutely tremendous. I mean,
we were obviously quite involved back in two thousand and
nine and twenty and eleven with the st zero fees
sponsorship of the Stag, so we saw a lot of
the shield and the excitement around it, and of course
(26:04):
the previous time that it was won back in nineteen
fifty nine was also a very interesting year. That was
the year I was born. So I've got all these connections.
I feel quite strongly connected to the Shield and you know,
I just really think we need to get behind them
for this Saturday because an overconfident Canterbury team, who knows
(26:27):
what can happen.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Here's a big question for you for a Thursday afternoon.
Penny Simmons, Are you an aggressive sports watcher?
Speaker 8 (26:35):
Oh, well it can be. Yes. I've done a lot
of sports playing and coaching and reefing and involved in sports,
so yes, you do. You certainly get into the atmosphere
of it, don't you. And it's hard to be contained.
But lo there was lots of shouting and charing going on,
(26:56):
that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Well that's the Riversdale part of you coming out as
opposed to be Simmons.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Always got to get always got to catch up. You
enjoy the afternoon.
Speaker 8 (27:04):
Lovely, Thanks very much, Bye, Penny Simmons, always.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Got to catch up. This is the muster before the
end of the hour.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Who are Tawariki, Chief Executive of Rugby Southland Up next, however,
Aaron Meekl and the Beef and Lamb slot talking about Bella.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
What is Bella? We find out next, I'm so bred
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Speaker 1 (27:41):
Joining us in the Beef and Lamb slot this afternoon
on the Muster is a voice from years going past
here on the program.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
His name is Aaron Meekel. These days of the Ebb
of Beef and Lamb erin. Good. Good to catch up Andy,
and it has been a wee while it has been.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Of course, you are on the show with Jamie McKay
ore g probably about twenty odd years ago now to believe.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Yeah, unfortunately it was that long and I started to
think back, I don't feel that old, but yeah, back when. Yeah,
as we were talking mister mackaia, the show is a
lot more casual then, but not quite the big multimedia
BC is now.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Technology comes under that boat as well. Now, Aaron, today
we're talking about Bella. Tell us about Bella. It's ai
the Beef and lamb version.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Yeah, so we've been working on this for a wee while.
We had a few ideas, but obviously when the chet
GPT type revolution hit, it changed the ballpark. So yeah,
on Tuesday we released BELLA, which is short for Beef
and Lamb Assistant, which is it's an AI tool. Basically,
it's an answer tool how by AI and as hopefully
(28:48):
a lot of your listeners know, we've got a heap
of information from researchers, other farmers, industry people, et cetera
on our knowledge hub and what we want to move
from it. We had a search engine so you could
locate stuff, but the AI tool we've created, BELLA is
an answer tool and it's there to create answers they
(29:09):
so rather than us saying this is the fact sheet
or a resource bock on throwing break lambs or something
like that, people have got their own question and they
get their own answer. So it's it's quite specific and
hopefully some of your listeners have had a lot. I
don't know if you've had a look yet.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Well, not not yet. I'm going to this afternoon though.
Rest assured about that. It's threadly grabbed my curiosity. Now
you think about when the Internet started up and all
these search engines, I mean Yahoo, like us whatever you
call that. Ask Jeeves was a search engine for looking
at things. But these days is that many different platforms
about finding out knowledge. So I suppose it just made
(29:45):
sense for Farming to get on board.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Yeah, you use check GPT, A beller will be very familiar.
The platforms don't change much. But the thing you get
with chet GGPT is what they call hallucinations. So it
makes stuff up or it gets stuff that's irrelevant, so
excuse me. And actually the problem they talk about is
it's a bit like BS. Some of the stuff that
(30:09):
AI makes up then gets on the Internet and gets
ingested by other AI tools and so it spreads, like
you know, the infection spread. So Fouler is ring fence.
It's only working on information that's on Beef and Amy
zealand knowledge Hub. And for those of you that have
seen it or have a go, you'll see we've got
an avatar there. It looks like a heading dog, and
(30:29):
that's how we said. It's a digital heading dog, a
well trained one. It will get better, but it only
works within the fences, you know, on our property. It
won't jump the fence into the neighbor's place and come
back with a zel packers. It won't chase a rabbit.
It's just out there to round up digital sheep effectively
digital information and do what you want it to the
(30:51):
same with AI that we like is AI is coming
for tasks, not for jobs, So it's not going to
run the farm. It's not going to make those decisions,
but there to support decisions and do tasks. So rather
than beef and Lamb saying here's the answer or as
best we can, he's a bit of information. It's there
for farmers to ask their questions and get their answers.
(31:13):
And the other thing that they'll finish on is it's
search engine. You tend to ask a specific question to
locate something. Bello will handle really long and quite detailed
and specific question. So your farm's information, you'll question lots
of details and it'll it'll create an answer. So very
different from a search engine. But yeah, we're really excited
(31:35):
about it. We think it puts the Ultimately, it puts
the power for dealing with information in the user's hands,
not beef and lamby zell and tends.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
So it's been like you say, quite a few years
in the making and you're pretty happy with the final product.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Yeah, lot we have. As I say, there were early
chip Box before I I, but they were quite constrained.
You had to write their questions and answers and it
could guide people through those, and we were something a
bit more flexible. Yeah, we're really happy, but also we
want people to use it and give us feedback. We've
deliberately gone out with Bella like a heading up. She's
(32:11):
well trained, we've let her off the leash and she's
performing well, but she's not the finished article yet and
it'll keep learning and keep training. So we know there's
things that's not quite right yet not perfect, but we
want people to tell us where they want to go
within what where we should spend the money or do
further development. So if you or others are using it,
(32:32):
there's sums up and thumbs down, buttons when you get
an answer to tell us that you think it's right,
or if it's not right, tell us why it's not,
or let us know if there's something else that could do.
We've got a few ideas for development there. We think Vala,
the digital heading dog, can go with her training, but
it's worthing well enough that we want to see her
to have it now see what they can do. But yeah,
(32:53):
we really want to get that use the lead feedback
on where we can go. I'd rather be as I
say to say, here you going to finished product, take.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
It to leave it, and here you're talking about. One
of the instances you could pop in there is about
managing worms, I mean drench rotations. That's a big thing
these days with warm burden's being an issue. What can
people expect and they type that in for example.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Yeah, so Bala has a lot of information so can
get quite long answers, but it'll first come back with
so I should say, if we haven't missed ready, it's
online at Askbala dot co dot m Z, or it's
linked from the beef and a New Zealand website. Bella
will start the summary if you keep bullet points to
the key bit. So if you ask a drench question
(33:35):
like that will go to the Wormwise database, which is
sort of the standard, the industry standard for all the
best information and a greed practice around internal parasite management.
But it really depends on the question that the answers
aren't set. So if you ask about managing nematidioris in
south and in spring. It'll give an answer about that
targeted to that area, that species of internal parasite and
(33:57):
that time of year. So what it really does well
as well as answer it, it'll prove where it got
the information from. So all the answer will have the
sources linked hyperlink through it. You can click on those
and it will take you to those so that are
a fat sheep their resource box. But if you try it,
(34:18):
what's really interesting about that? It'll take you to the
worm Wise guidebook, which is you know, forty or fifty
pages long, but Balo will open it on the page
and highlight the paragraph where it got the bit of information.
So if you want to check your answer, you'll get
that reference. And it does the same. This is the
really neat bit ending for videos and podcasts. So we
might have an hour long web in our video with
(34:39):
Jenny Diddanski on internal parasite management or Trevor cock on
body condition score those sorts of industry experts. It'll open
the video right at the minute you know where they're
talking about that specific that same nematodorus, So you don't
have to sit through the whole hour. You can go
click on that and open up and you'll hear Jenny
or Trevor whoever it may be, talking about that specific
(35:00):
of information you wanted. So it's it's a comprehensive answer.
It backs it up and it lets you find out
more if you really want to go and dig into it.
So yeah, amazingly powerful. Good on you.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Aaron always got to catch up.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Ask Bella dot co dot in zid if people have
got a curiosity right, yes, definitely.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Have a go and as I say, let us know
what you think and how we can make it even better.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Right Aaron Michael talking about Bella Askbella.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Dot co dot in zid. Thanks to Bee from their
New Zealand who take Rugby south and CEO he's had
a busy week. I'd imagine we catch up next it.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
In this we got support us farf miles around.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
We were gone, the heart were raised.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, we can't get enough of the roaring pin, the
sweet eaters. This is the muster on a Thursday afternoon.
Who A Tamariki is the chief executive of Rugby Southland.
How are welcome to the Muster. It's fair to say
your week would have been pretty hectic to date.
Speaker 10 (36:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a good summary.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Mate.
Speaker 10 (36:21):
It's it's been busy, very busy, but it's a good
busy and we've we're loving it here with yourself in
that moment. But yeah, she's a busy old time.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
So on Sunday evening when the Stags run the Shield,
is that when you went into planning mode or is
it a case of having a few celebratory drinks first
before thanks Captain de Gear.
Speaker 10 (36:42):
Yeah, yeah, look well I guess probably Amorro was probably well,
so to speak. I was up there with and watched
the team and lift it went down in the change rooms,
had had a quite beer with them, not so much quiet,
but straight away we kicked into some planning. So there's
(37:05):
a few fair few phone calls made on on Sunday
after the game, and we let the team celebrate accordingly.
But no, we got into planning mode pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
And that's what you need to do on occasions like this, right,
you need to celebrate. The success is none more so
than a team like the Stags, which you know wants to.
Successes have been a rarity over the past few seasons.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
But you're on a roll. You're on three in a
row and a winning streak as such, but lifting the
round freely shield and talking about this with Morgan mitchell
Us today, it's something that a lot of players in
the NPC and all Blacks of that matter, they never
get to experience it.
Speaker 10 (37:42):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely right. And I recall I've heard recently
that in order to talk about playing for a number
of years and never actually having a crack at it.
So yeah, Mortga's dead right there. There's a lot of
professional players that sometimes will play the whole never never
get to experience either either playing for the shield if
(38:04):
you need the shield. So uh, it's a it's a
it's a special time. It's a special it's very special
trophy here in New Zealand, and it means a lot,
especially to you know, smaller regions such as ourselves, and
particularly for our supporters who, through the thick and thin,
even through those sort of some dire years, stood by
(38:25):
us and stood by the stag. So very special. And
then and I'm sure Morgie as well, like the player,
Like Morgie, he's he's stuck with the union being a
real contributor. Uh, And it's really really nice to see
him experience the moment like that on Sunday while he's
still got the you know, when he's still wearing the
(38:46):
Stags jersey. It's a couple of other players here too
that have put some decent shifts in over the years,
so so really really pleasing, really nice to see them
and enjoy that moment. So yeah, it's been great.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Can you put the money value on what this is
worth to Rugby South and and south And in particular
by holding the shield, even if it is only for
seven or eight days.
Speaker 10 (39:08):
Yes, I'll be It'd be difficult for me to try
and put money value on it. I think, Uh, there's
so much there's so much value in terms of.
Speaker 11 (39:23):
From my perspective, it's probably how proud we are as
a problem.
Speaker 10 (39:27):
As the people is the south Enders, how we how
we do get a bit of stick nationally around living
at the bottom of the MW Zealand, how we've had
some you know we do. We do struggle for results
and we have done historically playing in this top tier
of the n PC. So the value for me is
is to be able to give south Enders moments where
(39:51):
they can stand a bit taller, what would the smile
in their face and be really proud to be from
Southend and and and and have a group of men
from South and go up and believe that they are
equal to us. Not you know, then then a lot
of the teams that they play against, you know, and
the top of competition in New Zealand, so it'd be hard.
(40:15):
But to be honest, it's it's more around making South
and does feel proud and that's what we're really we're
really stoked to be able to do or we've got
an opportunity to do that through the Stag So it's
that's more what it's about for me.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Now, Saturday, you talked at the start of the year
of the Union, did T and K for Stag Day
just went under that figure? How confident are you're getting
ten thousand to Rugby Park on Saturday?
Speaker 10 (40:39):
Oh, be honest, I'm probably more confident regarding this Shield
defense and that I was. I was going into Stag Day.
I thought we traveled tracking well for Stag Day. But
you know, I looked at the crowds wise as we
had when we lasted the Shield in twenty eleven and
particularly nine. You know those crowds they exceeded ten k. Well,
(41:03):
it truly exceeded ten k. Act, I think for real
the Otago shield defense. You know nine we cracked eighteen.
So put it I'm confident. Put it that way prefails
attracking really well. What I would what I would say
would be pleased. If you are going to turn, if
you are going to come to the game, then then
try and get that ticket. Try and buy that ticket
(41:24):
before the Before the match, you would probably would have
seen a lot of the scenes. On stag day, we
had somewhere around eight point five k here and it
was it was a very busy stadium, so we're not
sure if we'll have much more capacity outside of sort
of tent to living k. So I would just encourage
(41:46):
anyone that's going to come along buy those tickets early
so we can we can inform the public around how
it's tracking.
Speaker 11 (41:53):
But back to your.
Speaker 10 (41:54):
Original questions, make me I'm confident. I'm confident we'll get
ten k plus.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
That probably leads some more frustrations from your angle regarding
that part of the grand stand that's out of commission.
Speaker 10 (42:05):
Yeah, look, there there's we have a frustration that's additional
it's additional space, right that we could have people sitting.
So I think regardless of what the future holds for that.
You know, we can always grow the stadium through temporary
setting if we need to. But at the moment, our
crowd size is it's not too much of a factor,
(42:28):
but it is. It is a bit of an eyesore,
isn't it, Like sitting.
Speaker 11 (42:31):
It's hard to watch our tes the stags on TV
when you see such a big portion of the stand
that's uh, that's out of use. So there's a there,
like I'm sure you're the public where.
Speaker 10 (42:44):
There's a there's an outdoor stadium working group that's trying
to solve you know, what we do with the stadium
and including that will be what that's what's happening with
those seats. So yeah, I agreed, like it is a
it's hard to hard to it's hard to have that
area just sitting empty right when we're trying trying to
get as many self and supporters into the stadium. But
(43:04):
we'll work with what we have to.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Yeah, But nonetheless, who is going to be a hell
of an occasion on Saturday afternoon there at Rugby Park Stadium.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Appreciated your time on the MUSTERUS afternoon.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
And it's been a hectic week, no doubt, for everybody involved.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
All this left is say for Saturday is Antler's up?
Speaker 10 (43:21):
Absolutely mate? I appreciate it, Eddie. Not that.
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Speaker 2 (43:39):
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Speaker 1 (43:41):
I wanted to blame somebody else, but then I remembered,
with great power comes great responsibility. Great to catch up
with Hua Tamariki there chief consecutive for Rugby Southland. To
put it into context from a Ragby sealphone perspective regarding
the week holding the shield, that's us for the afternoon
fully shield special coming up on the muster tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
I made him you'll enjoy the afternoon.
Speaker 6 (44:06):
Hey, well all right, sure he'll go there. And what
are you going again?
Speaker 1 (44:09):
For stock selling action comes Curtsey PGG Rights and every Tuesday,
Wednesday and Thursday here on the muster. So we catch
up with Dave Morrison out of PGG Rights in here
and good talking about the chaut and sale yard sale
this morning take or what happened.
Speaker 10 (44:23):
A flute?
Speaker 9 (44:23):
Andy looked pleasant morning in this morning? Just a smaller
yelling a game just obviously this time of year. Just
the lame big big heavy lambs sort of twenty four
or five lambs and the hook. There are two hundred
and fifty to sixty dollars many lambs sort of.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
One eighty five one.
Speaker 9 (44:42):
Ninety's the smaller of the lame, sort of semi scores.
Speaker 12 (44:46):
Lest prime name sort of anywhere from sort of one
thirty five to.
Speaker 9 (44:53):
The mutterin just of two or three nines of us.
Speaker 12 (44:56):
Is the best name one forty one fifty that's in
pretty heavy use. All the same medium sort of one
twenty one twenty five with the lighting condition use just surround.
It's sort of seventy five to eighty five dollars. Stall
lams are pretty quietly if they do, and the best
of stall lamps are one twenty five to one thirty,
(45:17):
the very small lamps sort of one fifteen to one twenty,
and that wraps up the over
Every wants and then journal, Good afternoon, and welcome to
the muster on Hokinilli. I'm Andy Muller here until to
our clock thanks to Peter's genetics, thanks to your company.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
As we look out over Main.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Street here, cloudy skies, the sun trying to peek through,
but generally temperature wise, not too bad all things considered.
But before we go any further as well, the all
whack team is out interesting to say the least. The
Greek keeps his position Taylor Newell, Barrett Vay, Simon Parker
at number six, Saver number eight, so Titi Finlay, Christi Barrett, Jouanni,
(00:40):
Rico Yowani, Jordi Barrett, Proctor Narrower and Jordan impact Or
reserves takey Ajo Williams, Lomax, Holland Kurriffy Preston Tupia and
Damie McKenzie. Interesting team and the box are paying. Telor
was forty at the ten. So going to be an
(01:01):
interesting game for what is going to be a hell
of a weekend for rugby, especially if you're a Stags fan.
Brin Campbell's had Tunes five Day four casts brought to
you by Twin Farm teff rom and saff techs.
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Speaker 1 (01:21):
This afternoon brings showers of breezy nor westleys and fifteen.
Friday showers of brisk r westleies two and thirteen. Saturday
showers of brisk west nor westerlies.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Three and nine.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Sunday morning showers the north westerlies forming zero and day
and Monday sunny.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
With breezy r Westerly six and fourteen.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
So temperatures to hand northern south from six point five
River to eight point five, Tiadel six point nine, tinor
Row at eight point one, Winton seven and.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Woodlands seven point three.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Mark Dylan starts us off, coming to us all the
way from Prague and the Czech Republic where he's competing
in the World Plowing Championships. We catch up with Bib
see how things are going. Peter gardin farms at Netdale,
but closer to home getting into lambing moment now, so
we catch up with Pete see how things have been.
Penny Simmons, MP from mcargos on the show. Aaron Meek
(02:09):
on the beef Lambslot talking about Bella. What is Bella?
Here's a hint it's sort of do of technology and
hu Are Tamadikey Reggie South and chief executive ahead of
the Stags for a shield defense against Kennbury at the weekend.
And Dave Morrison from PGG Rights and starting us off
with a stock style report out of children. So the
music's finished, through a bit to carry on and we'll
(02:30):
start the hour next with Mark Dillan.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
The Musters on the Farm brought to you by Southland
District Council working together for a better Southland bar.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
The rule.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
With the heavy away over to the Czech Republic this
afternoon on the Muster Mark Dlon plowman extraordinaire once again
at the World Plowing Championships, who was over there last
year at the event in Estonia. He's there again this
year and surprise, surprise, he's away back over for next
year's edition as well, and he joins us once again
(03:09):
this afternoon as they start to get organized for the
World Plowing champs on the fifth and sixth of September.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Bob good, afternoon, How things.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, not to hurt any How's everything going over on
the other side of the world in the plowing sense
of suppose?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Well, There've been a bit of rain this week, which
is really well forming because two weeks ago we had
thirty six degree days, which is a bit hot for
our self infuliments has come from the way of the
climate that yeah, so we've adapted to that. But yeah,
we hit a few issues with a gear just bending parts,
but we managed to source some new parts, so we've
got in bolded that hopefully that's going to help the process.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Thirty six degrees your v Neick Tenill looks spectacular.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Yeah, yeah, no, barent up what nicely the Soccolone is
going to be great when I get.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
In general over there. Though the season, how's it been.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Been hot? Of the normal end has been been sort
of more sporadic where there's both someone theleagning you know,
really went at harvest and then they've had a good
run while we've been here and all the abs hold
it up and some of the goal as the started seating.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Now, last time we spoke to you, you were getting
prepared for the event. What's happened since then is are
pretty much just practicing and refining your play out in.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
The lead up.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Yeah, it has been yet practicing different soil work, different
soul talks and the soul has been churning a bit
with the moisture too, So just trying to work on
the what angle we're going to take it in and
you're trying to get the best result with game.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
What's a soil type like the stuff we're.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
In today, Well, there has been the grass for practicing
the other that I was really hard, be a real,
very very sensitive. You're only just a play a couple
of meals here there, and that makes a big difference
stuftware and a piture grass land today I said a
bit of moisture on it, but it's quite undulating and
they probably cut it for three weeks ago, so it's
quite a bit of growth on it as well. So
whether we can we beginning to the isshill body work
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at the play on what it's going to be a
lot to get the grass period might be a challenged, but
there the ghosts look seeing the behaling.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
When it comes down to the drawing of the plot
to say if they have much of a bearing on
the event as such.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Oh, definitely last year in Estonia, the ground we had
in the practice, we were lucky enough we probably had
some of the beast stuff in the Patticant. We're singing
that things are going really well, and then on the
day it's some real stuff, gluggy stuff, which you probably
did the death of Cook as I could have, and
it didn't ed that was it didn't place as well
as all the lucks. But the plot drawer is a
huge part of it.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
So when do you find out which plot you've got?
Speaker 5 (05:24):
We draw plots would be we've got church service tonight
to reddication and in the prior to a church and
then I think that must be tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
We have plot draw the location of whereabouts you guys
are doing these world chairs.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
You're not far from Prague, is that right?
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Yeah, it's only about well, if you get are or
a bolt, best six k's into ten and we're actually
right in the front path of the emport. So plans
Plainsley coming past here about every three to seven minutes.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I suppose as far as logistics that's a good thing. Yeah,
I know.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
We just well we've got a rental carre at the
report and drive up to the university we were staying,
so I think it's about fifteen k's then to the
eport and sexty seven caves into town, so that seemed
enough go day.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
So when it comes down to doing your plowing as
such and you're trying to get the perfect furrow, just
how fun are the margins of what you're looking for?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I mean, we talk about all.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
These guys at the top of the game and ladies
for that matter. What is the difference between first and
say sixth place for example? How fine are we looking?
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Oh, poorts bars can only be down to some days
if it was really taught half a point between first
and second. So there's there's does I suppose you eat
you twenty different speaks, and then there's speci eight ports
from one to teen, so then you get the different
three panels of judges. So if he can get teams
and everything was perfect, but if you're getting six and
sevens and then they go beside just getting seven to night.
So it heads up to the end of the day
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to give you that phonal school.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
So when you're practice saying how many hells? The data
is edententail.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
We usually get in the car before right we're trying
to be out here at the panic well this morning,
we're in the pedict play on the day and then
we usually work until four fold each day we're getting
the furias and and I think I'll put about two
hundred leaders a days through the water already.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Well as far as fuel on the light, do you
have sponsorship for that over there or is that all
just off your own back?
Speaker 5 (07:04):
That's off our own back. But I've worked. I suppose
I have a lot of sponsors come on board. That
goes in the pot, and whether it gets allocated to
fund maintenance or fuel or travel or keeping their sales
hydrated and feeding stuff like.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
That, keeping a sales hydrated. I like that term. So
how many people? How many competitors are you up against?
Speaker 5 (07:23):
There's twenty six in the conventional and I think there's
twenty two in the reversible.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And who are the ones to look out for? Who
are your main opposition?
Speaker 5 (07:32):
I suppose that's one of the old The Irish guy here,
he's a Martin Coey, he's an older chip. I think
he's eighty one. He's still playing. He's won the World's
four times or four times. And there's multiple weather guess
here they've got world titles as well. Scotsman Andrew Mitchell,
he's won three or four world titles. Yeah, but looking
around the field, there's a lot of tough comps of competition,
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especially looking here in the grass brickiness has been real
party playing and done.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
An eighty one year old is a four time world champion.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Yeah, he hasn't played for a few years, but here's
one or four times in the past.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
That's unreal.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Now, we talked about this last time. The camaraderie is
it the same feeling at the event this year? Is
what you've seen last time?
Speaker 5 (08:11):
You've probably even better, like it's what you get to
know people but more and then there's a few of
the young fellows that have played on this year too,
so you're catching up with you seeing you're looking at
the playing throwing what he's around, give him a bit
of benter Now.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
As far as the feeling towards New Zealand, over there
in New Zealand agriculture is such, I mean we're hearing
about door meets of alliance of the likes. Has that
brought up in conversation at all when you're talking to
these people from over the EU Europe play, No, that hasn't.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Really come up and compt lot of people coming up
and asking about what this all doot's going to be
like in twenty nine, and he has a bit of
a buzz around count around there and a lot of
people are really ten to commit to New Zealand and
so we can showcase what's going on.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
So just put it into context.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Twenty twenty nine is going to be held at Riversdale,
the World Plowing Champs. Logistically, what what are you planning
on as far as the event? I mean you've been
there off and on up now to know what it needs.
What's it going to take to pull it off?
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Well, we've got a great committee and I'm pretty confident
we'll pull it off and run a really good event.
Says yeah. Putting the logistics to Chip to get the
shipping people around. But the commendation sid, we've got the
disordered already, end us having good tools and stuff in
the good ground and you know, well with the probably
the thing over here, the workshop was licking a little
first up. We're lucky at the Farmer it was really
(09:25):
well quick for the marshaling Ad was a bit slove
to mark, but they caught up again now so they've
got worlders and grinders and stuff here fir us. So
if we need to do any modifications or change any shoes,
it's just just go back to the ad and get
into it and get done what you need to do.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
This might sound a little cliche, Bob, but but do
you get a Playoman's lunch for a feet.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Yeah, you do, you do, just get a lunch of it.
We paid breakfast in the mornings and then we heat it.
They get a pick lunch and we've got a camp
cheese and the back of the car. So we pulled
them out and heavy a lunch and a dB and
a little bit of out about what we're doing and
what we thin to make things work better than what
we couldn't.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Hey, awesome, Bob. Always appreciate your time. All the best
for the event. We're all backing you. And once again
I am stunded at how easily I can talk to
you on the other side of the world, and I
struggle to talk to somebody twenty five meters away from
me here on the main street of Gore on cell phones.
But nonetheless, all the best for the next couple of
days a and we've got you back.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Enjoy it.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Alsome things any much presured.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Mark Dylan Plow, I'm an extraordinary over near Prague at
the World Plowing Champs on the fifth and sixth of September,
so we'll look out for results of this with eager
interest as well. All the best of vibe over there
on his travels and his wife Sonya as well. Peter
Guardin's up next, a bit closer to home. He's at Napdale.
You're listening to the muster.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Serven Nights.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Have you ever felt servan?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Peter Garden and Farms and Napdale and joins us Pete,
good afternoon. The song is Southern Nights by Glenn Campbell.
I think it's fair to say everybody listening to this
can agree with that lyric. Yes, you have experience of
Southern Nights, especially at this time of year with cows
in the carving mode and lamb's and the pen.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Defeed, it's all go.
Speaker 7 (11:25):
All go, and it's a cracking So long a Glenn Campbell.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I'm starting to appreciate his music more and more. He's
got some absolutely wicked tunes here. When I go through
it all, so yeah, I tend to play it more
often than not because there's music that a lot of
people agree with, right.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
Oh, and it's that great easy listening sort of stuff
that you can have on in the background, and a
lot of those songs have got a lot more subsistence
to them than some of the modern one STEI say it,
but that makes me start to sound like getting old andy.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
How's everything looking out there on the farm?
Speaker 7 (11:56):
Yeah, it taken away pretty good either, stud's lambing. We
just threw them a weet bit earlier to get them
over and done with. And then we're drafting up commercials
over the last couple of days and they'll start this weekend.
And we have played a couple of peddicks, so that's
pretty exciting.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Too, because we tend to forget spring should actually be
a positive time for growth and everything. Last year, hopefully
you blip on the radar, but you're always optimistic when
you're head into September.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
Oh definitely. And fertilizer on, whether it's good or whether
it's bad. And I just think if you get it
on in the spring, you've got the use of it
for the whole season, especially that sulfur that just leaches
away and it doesn't need to go on every twelve months.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Do you normally have your throred on by now or
you are hit of the bull there.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
If we're doing granular, we do sort of a split application.
We will do sulfur and maybe some nitrogen and some
selenium and cobalt early on, and then follow up with
some can and pea later with the option of using
in again or not. And this year we've gone back
to more of a super based products. It's cost effective
and it covers are looking good, so we have no
need for nitrogen, which excites me. If we don't have
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to use it, it's a dollar saved and.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
You've got split lambing dates.
Speaker 7 (13:10):
Only with the stud some players. We do do some
old girls a bit earlier or some terminals bit earlier,
but we haven't this year just from just how things
were going in the autumn. Yes, I know we're not
too bad on that front.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I think it's a time of the year as well.
You want to touch on this to tape Hete.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
We just need to look at a few positives that
are going on in the sector, because when you're getting
into the grind of the September mode, you just got
to put things into perspective. Right.
Speaker 7 (13:37):
Oh, definitely. I did a article and it ends up
in a newspaper this time last year, and there's just
some lemming tips and I couldn't believe him in a
positive feedback we've got from it. And yeah, I'd probably
flooral my English teachers if they heard had written an
article for the paper. But yeah, I just I reckon
setting up for Lemming, if you can get away for
(13:57):
a long weekend or something before Lemming's good and then
remembering that it is. It is just a part of
the year, and the most important thing is the people
and then the stock after that. And yeah, just having
all those systems in place, you know, good tires and
your bike and some patient with gear, a few jackets,
getting holy go by another one. They've probably got an
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end of years season, end of winter, especially on them
in the shops, and I can a few treats on
the walls. You go a long way a.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Well on a landing beat, especially if there's only a
couple of you going around, say.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Three three two us or whatever, and.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
It's all guns to the gunnel. You just got to
think outside the square a bit. I'm not so much
thinking outside of the square, but like you say, just
having a bit of having smoke on a regular basis
during the day and just keeping people engaged because it
can be had.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
Yaka oh definitely. And probably the thing on that front
is I actually reckon a long lunch at laming time.
If you don't have heaps of stuff you're having to
do that day, if you can have a few long lunches,
I reckon that's a great thing, because.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
What how does the day look for you on the
Lemming beat? What time you outside?
Speaker 7 (15:01):
We're trying to be out by seven as the aim.
And then you know, we flick around. We're sort of
we looked them once or twice a day, usually twice
a day on the flats. Pretty fortunate. They come from
a family that was really good at tagging all the
problem sheep, so we we tagging any other hands problems
and we don't breed from them. And we're massive fans
of terminal sorrows obviously, so on the easier tire of
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the flat land side of things. And then their parent
does on the hill. Of course, they get spread out
or they got spread out last week or end of
this week, started this week, sorry, and they won't be
seeing until tailing time. So yeah, that and then yeah
we'll knock off, usually usually working seven till six thirty
or seven till seven, but you know, you know, have
an hour and a half, a lunch some days, if
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the if, the day lut, and.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
The other thing you wanted to cover off as well.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
While you're on the seat talking about the sector as such,
the widest sector and younger people coming through the industry,
which is always something to celebrate. Of course, you've had
a lot of skin on the game of young farmers
over the years. I have my regular catch up with
the team every Tuesday. But you've been talking to a
couple of individuals recently who really give you hope that
the younger generation are coming through.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
Oh, definitely. This is the twentieth Lemmings. So I think
I'm probably transitioning from a younger farmer to a middle
aged farmer now which has come out of the closet
and say that, I guess, and a couple of guys
that probably i'd say eight ten years younger than me
that I've been talking to you lately, and their ability
to think without too much tradition and not throwing away
(16:30):
the fundamentals, but really pushing the boundaries of what's out
there and not being bound by you know, I guess
negative opinions or traditional sort of things that how this
spect that we're good reasons back in the day, but
now maybe aren't as relevant. And things like one of
the guys doing the same as what we do, killing
all the dry hoggits because there's no money in them,
(16:53):
and you know, not being scared of buying in some
views if you need some extra ones. And yeah, just
a couple of guys are just a real breath of appreciated.
They're both running their own businesses. They're both doing some
pretty cool stuff. And you know, I just think if
you've got a guy like that around, you just just
let them go about and let them, let them get
into it, let them try some things. And yes, not
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everything that they'll do, and not everything that I've done
has worked. But we didn't get to where we've got
as an industry by doing the same things that we
we're doing one hundred years ago. And the evolution you know,
in sheep farming from like my grandfather's day is like
day and night. He said. Back in the day, they
were probably handling a third of their sheep at living time,
and I mean it's nothing like that now. And you know,
(17:38):
like what our granddads and our dads did and what
we did when we were younger. We did push the
boundaries out and that's how the industry's got to where
it's got to. And there's a lot of things that
are good. There's a lot of things are bad. But
like the Sheep and New Zealand, they've they've done a
pretty good job at you did it gain in the
last one hundred and fifty odd years, and I don't
think we should limit that to where it is now.
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I think we just need to keep pushing ahead.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Just one final thought for you.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
You say there's a young farmer, you're now a middle
aged farmer. When do you officially become an old farmer?
Speaker 7 (18:10):
Well, I think i'm safely still a few years away
from No.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
No, When I come, I'll come on what ages? What
age is an old farmer?
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Take?
Speaker 7 (18:17):
Well, I had this discussion with my wife a few
years ago and I said, well, if you're going to
live till your ninety rough speaking up until when you're thirty,
you're young. From thirty to sixty your middle age, and
from sixty to ninety year old. So that's what I'll
throw out there, and I'll probably get some abuse from
of the section, now, won't I?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Andy, Oh, I'm still middle aged mate. I'll take that.
I'll let you carry on. These are you going nuts
in the background? Always good to catch up.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
Sounds good, So still be.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Pete Gardine of Napdale. Shout out to all.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
The young, middle aged old farmers out there. Penny Simmons
MP from the Cargoar Minister for the Environment. We're going
to catch up next.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
This is the master she wes Welcome back to the
Mussar on Hokui.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Penny Simmons MP for him for Cargo as well as
Minneso for the Environment amongst other portfolios, joins us once again.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Good afternoon, Penny, Yes.
Speaker 8 (19:17):
Good afternoon. Lovely to be spending a day in Southland
after I've spent a febit of time over the last
few days. We've had a couple of weeks of recess
and so I've been all over the country. I've been
to Blenham and Nelson and christ Church and Napier and Palmerston,
North manikou Auckland and Hamilton, visiting the politechs there and
(19:41):
meeting with mayors and community leaders, but also doing a
few environmental visits. So it's lovely to be back in
southlad for a day or two.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, talk about what you've been up to, especially around
the wineries in Blenham and waste. You talk about waste
these days, just in any way, shape or form, and
everybody's trying to do the best for the environment.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
What's happening there.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
Yeah, see, well that's right they are. And of course
we hear a lot about the farming wastewater and things
like that, but actually many sectors have got real issues
with disposing of waste, and certainly in the wine sector
they have considerable wastewater, but also organic waste after pressing
(20:26):
the grapes and skins and things like that, so they've
got fairly significant issues there. Sometimes it is used for
animal feed, but that depends on whether there's a need
for it, how the grass situation is. And of course
there's not a lot of dairy farms around blend them
(20:47):
and so actually being able to transport the waste to
the farms is quite expensive. So yeah, they've got some
real issues because all that organic waste going into landfill
is not great. So they are looking at what options
they've got for composting and other things like that. But yeah,
we forget that other sectors really are the main producers
(21:10):
of waste going also to the construction sector. Seventy percent
of what goes a landfills across the country is construction
and demolition waste and of that eighty percent of soil.
So we are putting an enormous amount of soil into
our landfills, which is ridiculous. I don't think that's happening
(21:32):
so much in the regions I think, and particularly down here,
we're a bit more canny. We don't like spending money
on waste levees putting soil into landfills. So you see
buns around new houses with planting on them, and around
industrial sites. But it is a real issue in terms
of the cost of building and demolishing, having to take
(21:57):
away so much waste and going to our landfills. But
going back to the wine industry, it was really interesting
to discuss with a number of the wine makers the
state of the New Zealand industry. Prices are set and
they're having a really tough year, there's no doubt about it.
But wine consumption across the world is declining. However, New
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Zealand is something against the trends in terms of the
volume and mount of wine that is being exported from
New Zealand is still increasing and our price is still
keeping strong in comparison to a number of other areas,
so they are going something gains against the worldwide trends
(22:44):
of consumption decreasing. But they are still growing their industry,
which is great for New Zealand. But they're doing it
tough this year, which kind of reminds us of their
primary sector. There are always cycles within the sector, aren't they.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
You know, when.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
Red meat and wool and dairreas going up, we forget
that there are other parts of the primary sector, like
the wine industry that's feeling it really tough at the moment.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Well, that puts them into perspective. Waste from the agricultural
side of life, and you talk about those numbers regarding
waste from the building fraternity.
Speaker 8 (23:20):
Yes, yeah, it's really significant and of course it adds
to the cost of building. So we are looking now
as commissioned some work within the ministry and looking at
how we can use the soil better, how we can
be less strict about the contamination, because some of the
soil that's going away is really lightly contaminated or not
(23:42):
contaminated at all. So just looking at some of the
things that we are doing and how we might be
able to change it, and of course the waste levy
increasing is making it more viable for other alternative.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
How would you describe the mood amongst the vinyard owners
considering these tariffs have been implemented.
Speaker 8 (24:03):
Yeah, look pretty subdued. Interestingly, the winery that I visited
with Kim Crawford one which is American owned, So they're
pretty subdued about the impact that the tariffs are going
to have because North America is a particularly strong market
(24:24):
for a lot of our wine makers. But you know,
they've been through tough times before and they are just
trying to work with reducing their costs and increasing their
marketing and looking for the market regions. So doing those
kinds of things that we all do once you get
hit with some additional costs, and they are finding it
(24:47):
particularly tough this year, There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Right, we'd better mention the stags hiding around fairly shield.
I pity the individuals that you put a Monday afternoon
if it happened to have been on it happened to
have been on a thirty our flight from the other
side of the world. Rovan and the cargo right and
all these people there waving placards and everything.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Because you had to wait for the other passengers to
get off.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
The plane, you're absolutely naked, and all of a sudden
you walk in there and all this yah hoing's going on.
But it was for a right course, I suppose, wasn't
it the Stags coming through there?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
And you'll agree with us, how good was it? Oh?
Speaker 8 (25:20):
Look, just brilliant.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
I couldn't be there.
Speaker 8 (25:22):
I actually flew out to Awkward just a couple of
hours before it, so I wasn't there, but I sent
a card of congratulations round. But jee, it was great.
Just watching the game was fantastic. You sat there with
sort of nervous anticipation that the tide was going to turn.
But once we got to I think it was about
the twelve minute mark before the end of the game,
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I thought, actually, we've got this. They can't turn it
quickly enough now. And it was tremendous, Absolutely tremendous. I mean,
we were obviously quite involved back in two thousand and
nine and twenty and eleven with the st zero fees
sponsorship of the Stag, so we saw a lot of
the shield and the excitement around it, and of course
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the previous time that it was won back in nineteen
fifty nine was also a very interesting year. That was
the year I was born. So I've got all these connections.
I feel quite strongly connected to the Shield and you know,
I just really think we need to get behind them
for this Saturday because an overconfident Canterbury team, who knows
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what can happen.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Here's a big question for you for a Thursday afternoon.
Penny Simmons, Are you an aggressive sports watcher?
Speaker 8 (26:35):
Oh, well it can be. Yes. I've done a lot
of sports playing and coaching and reefing and involved in sports,
so yes, you do. You certainly get into the atmosphere
of it, don't you. And it's hard to be contained.
But lo there was lots of shouting and charing going on,
(26:56):
that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Well that's the Riversdale part of you coming out as
opposed to be Simmons.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Always got to get always got to catch up. You
enjoy the afternoon.
Speaker 8 (27:04):
Lovely, Thanks very much, Bye, Penny Simmons, always.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Got to catch up. This is the muster before the
end of the hour.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Who are Tawariki, Chief Executive of Rugby Southland Up next, however,
Aaron Meekl and the Beef and Lamb slot talking about Bella.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
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Speaker 1 (27:41):
Joining us in the Beef and Lamb slot this afternoon
on the Muster is a voice from years going past
here on the program.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
His name is Aaron Meekel. These days of the Ebb
of Beef and Lamb erin. Good. Good to catch up Andy,
and it has been a wee while it has been.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Of course, you are on the show with Jamie McKay
ore g probably about twenty odd years ago now to believe.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Yeah, unfortunately it was that long and I started to
think back, I don't feel that old, but yeah, back when. Yeah,
as we were talking mister mackaia, the show is a
lot more casual then, but not quite the big multimedia
BC is now.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Technology comes under that boat as well. Now, Aaron, today
we're talking about Bella. Tell us about Bella. It's ai
the Beef and lamb version.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Yeah, so we've been working on this for a wee while.
We had a few ideas, but obviously when the chet
GPT type revolution hit, it changed the ballpark. So yeah,
on Tuesday we released BELLA, which is short for Beef
and Lamb Assistant, which is it's an AI tool. Basically,
it's an answer tool how by AI and as hopefully
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a lot of your listeners know, we've got a heap
of information from researchers, other farmers, industry people, et cetera
on our knowledge hub and what we want to move
from it. We had a search engine so you could
locate stuff, but the AI tool we've created, BELLA is
an answer tool and it's there to create answers they
(29:09):
so rather than us saying this is the fact sheet
or a resource bock on throwing break lambs or something
like that, people have got their own question and they
get their own answer. So it's it's quite specific and
hopefully some of your listeners have had a lot. I
don't know if you've had a look yet.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Well, not not yet. I'm going to this afternoon though.
Rest assured about that. It's threadly grabbed my curiosity. Now
you think about when the Internet started up and all
these search engines, I mean Yahoo, like us whatever you
call that. Ask Jeeves was a search engine for looking
at things. But these days is that many different platforms
about finding out knowledge. So I suppose it just made
(29:45):
sense for Farming to get on board.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Yeah, you use check GPT, A beller will be very familiar.
The platforms don't change much. But the thing you get
with chet GGPT is what they call hallucinations. So it
makes stuff up or it gets stuff that's irrelevant, so
excuse me. And actually the problem they talk about is
it's a bit like BS. Some of the stuff that
(30:09):
AI makes up then gets on the Internet and gets
ingested by other AI tools and so it spreads, like
you know, the infection spread. So Fouler is ring fence.
It's only working on information that's on Beef and Amy
zealand knowledge Hub. And for those of you that have
seen it or have a go, you'll see we've got
an avatar there. It looks like a heading dog, and
(30:29):
that's how we said. It's a digital heading dog, a
well trained one. It will get better, but it only
works within the fences, you know, on our property. It
won't jump the fence into the neighbor's place and come
back with a zel packers. It won't chase a rabbit.
It's just out there to round up digital sheep effectively
digital information and do what you want it to the
(30:51):
same with AI that we like is AI is coming
for tasks, not for jobs, So it's not going to
run the farm. It's not going to make those decisions,
but there to support decisions and do tasks. So rather
than beef and Lamb saying here's the answer or as
best we can, he's a bit of information. It's there
for farmers to ask their questions and get their answers.
(31:13):
And the other thing that they'll finish on is it's
search engine. You tend to ask a specific question to
locate something. Bello will handle really long and quite detailed
and specific question. So your farm's information, you'll question lots
of details and it'll it'll create an answer. So very
different from a search engine. But yeah, we're really excited
(31:35):
about it. We think it puts the Ultimately, it puts
the power for dealing with information in the user's hands,
not beef and lamby zell and tends.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
So it's been like you say, quite a few years
in the making and you're pretty happy with the final product.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Yeah, lot we have. As I say, there were early
chip Box before I I, but they were quite constrained.
You had to write their questions and answers and it
could guide people through those, and we were something a
bit more flexible. Yeah, we're really happy, but also we
want people to use it and give us feedback. We've
deliberately gone out with Bella like a heading up. She's
(32:11):
well trained, we've let her off the leash and she's
performing well, but she's not the finished article yet and
it'll keep learning and keep training. So we know there's
things that's not quite right yet not perfect, but we
want people to tell us where they want to go
within what where we should spend the money or do
further development. So if you or others are using it,
(32:32):
there's sums up and thumbs down, buttons when you get
an answer to tell us that you think it's right,
or if it's not right, tell us why it's not,
or let us know if there's something else that could do.
We've got a few ideas for development there. We think Vala,
the digital heading dog, can go with her training, but
it's worthing well enough that we want to see her
to have it now see what they can do. But yeah,
(32:53):
we really want to get that use the lead feedback
on where we can go. I'd rather be as I
say to say, here you going to finished product, take.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
It to leave it, and here you're talking about. One
of the instances you could pop in there is about
managing worms, I mean drench rotations. That's a big thing
these days with warm burden's being an issue. What can
people expect and they type that in for example.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Yeah, so Bala has a lot of information so can
get quite long answers, but it'll first come back with
so I should say, if we haven't missed ready, it's
online at Askbala dot co dot m Z, or it's
linked from the beef and a New Zealand website. Bella
will start the summary if you keep bullet points to
the key bit. So if you ask a drench question
(33:35):
like that will go to the Wormwise database, which is
sort of the standard, the industry standard for all the
best information and a greed practice around internal parasite management.
But it really depends on the question that the answers
aren't set. So if you ask about managing nematidioris in
south and in spring. It'll give an answer about that
targeted to that area, that species of internal parasite and
(33:57):
that time of year. So what it really does well
as well as answer it, it'll prove where it got
the information from. So all the answer will have the
sources linked hyperlink through it. You can click on those
and it will take you to those so that are
a fat sheep their resource box. But if you try it,
(34:18):
what's really interesting about that? It'll take you to the
worm Wise guidebook, which is you know, forty or fifty
pages long, but Balo will open it on the page
and highlight the paragraph where it got the bit of information.
So if you want to check your answer, you'll get
that reference. And it does the same. This is the
really neat bit ending for videos and podcasts. So we
might have an hour long web in our video with
(34:39):
Jenny Diddanski on internal parasite management or Trevor cock on
body condition score those sorts of industry experts. It'll open
the video right at the minute you know where they're
talking about that specific that same nematodorus, So you don't
have to sit through the whole hour. You can go
click on that and open up and you'll hear Jenny
or Trevor whoever it may be, talking about that specific
(35:00):
of information you wanted. So it's it's a comprehensive answer.
It backs it up and it lets you find out
more if you really want to go and dig into it.
So yeah, amazingly powerful. Good on you.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Aaron always got to catch up.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Ask Bella dot co dot in zid if people have
got a curiosity right, yes, definitely.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Have a go and as I say, let us know
what you think and how we can make it even better.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Right Aaron Michael talking about Bella Askbella.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Dot co dot in zid. Thanks to Bee from their
New Zealand who take Rugby south and CEO he's had
a busy week. I'd imagine we catch up next it.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
In this we got support us farf miles around.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
We were gone, the heart were raised.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, we can't get enough of the roaring pin, the
sweet eaters. This is the muster on a Thursday afternoon.
Who A Tamariki is the chief executive of Rugby Southland.
How are welcome to the Muster. It's fair to say
your week would have been pretty hectic to date.
Speaker 10 (36:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a good summary.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Mate.
Speaker 10 (36:21):
It's it's been busy, very busy, but it's a good
busy and we've we're loving it here with yourself in
that moment. But yeah, she's a busy old time.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
So on Sunday evening when the Stags run the Shield,
is that when you went into planning mode or is
it a case of having a few celebratory drinks first
before thanks Captain de Gear.
Speaker 10 (36:42):
Yeah, yeah, look well I guess probably Amorro was probably well,
so to speak. I was up there with and watched
the team and lift it went down in the change rooms,
had had a quite beer with them, not so much quiet,
but straight away we kicked into some planning. So there's
(37:05):
a few fair few phone calls made on on Sunday
after the game, and we let the team celebrate accordingly.
But no, we got into planning mode pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
And that's what you need to do on occasions like this, right,
you need to celebrate. The success is none more so
than a team like the Stags, which you know wants to.
Successes have been a rarity over the past few seasons.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
But you're on a roll. You're on three in a
row and a winning streak as such, but lifting the
round freely shield and talking about this with Morgan mitchell
Us today, it's something that a lot of players in
the NPC and all Blacks of that matter, they never
get to experience it.
Speaker 10 (37:42):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely right. And I recall I've heard recently
that in order to talk about playing for a number
of years and never actually having a crack at it.
So yeah, Mortga's dead right there. There's a lot of
professional players that sometimes will play the whole never never
get to experience either either playing for the shield if
(38:04):
you need the shield. So uh, it's a it's a
it's a special time. It's a special it's very special
trophy here in New Zealand, and it means a lot,
especially to you know, smaller regions such as ourselves, and
particularly for our supporters who, through the thick and thin,
even through those sort of some dire years, stood by
(38:25):
us and stood by the stag. So very special. And
then and I'm sure Morgie as well, like the player,
Like Morgie, he's he's stuck with the union being a
real contributor. Uh, And it's really really nice to see
him experience the moment like that on Sunday while he's
still got the you know, when he's still wearing the
(38:46):
Stags jersey. It's a couple of other players here too
that have put some decent shifts in over the years,
so so really really pleasing, really nice to see them
and enjoy that moment. So yeah, it's been great.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Can you put the money value on what this is
worth to Rugby South and and south And in particular
by holding the shield, even if it is only for
seven or eight days.
Speaker 10 (39:08):
Yes, I'll be It'd be difficult for me to try
and put money value on it. I think, Uh, there's
so much there's so much value in terms of.
Speaker 11 (39:23):
From my perspective, it's probably how proud we are as
a problem.
Speaker 10 (39:27):
As the people is the south Enders, how we how
we do get a bit of stick nationally around living
at the bottom of the MW Zealand, how we've had
some you know we do. We do struggle for results
and we have done historically playing in this top tier
of the n PC. So the value for me is
is to be able to give south Enders moments where
(39:51):
they can stand a bit taller, what would the smile
in their face and be really proud to be from
Southend and and and and have a group of men
from South and go up and believe that they are
equal to us. Not you know, then then a lot
of the teams that they play against, you know, and
the top of competition in New Zealand, so it'd be hard.
(40:15):
But to be honest, it's it's more around making South
and does feel proud and that's what we're really we're
really stoked to be able to do or we've got
an opportunity to do that through the Stag So it's
that's more what it's about for me.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Now, Saturday, you talked at the start of the year
of the Union, did T and K for Stag Day
just went under that figure? How confident are you're getting
ten thousand to Rugby Park on Saturday?
Speaker 10 (40:39):
Oh, be honest, I'm probably more confident regarding this Shield
defense and that I was. I was going into Stag Day.
I thought we traveled tracking well for Stag Day. But
you know, I looked at the crowds wise as we
had when we lasted the Shield in twenty eleven and
particularly nine. You know those crowds they exceeded ten k. Well,
(41:03):
it truly exceeded ten k. Act, I think for real
the Otago shield defense. You know nine we cracked eighteen.
So put it I'm confident. Put it that way prefails
attracking really well. What I would what I would say
would be pleased. If you are going to turn, if
you are going to come to the game, then then
try and get that ticket. Try and buy that ticket
(41:24):
before the Before the match, you would probably would have
seen a lot of the scenes. On stag day, we
had somewhere around eight point five k here and it
was it was a very busy stadium, so we're not
sure if we'll have much more capacity outside of sort
of tent to living k. So I would just encourage
(41:46):
anyone that's going to come along buy those tickets early
so we can we can inform the public around how
it's tracking.
Speaker 11 (41:53):
But back to your.
Speaker 10 (41:54):
Original questions, make me I'm confident. I'm confident we'll get
ten k plus.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
That probably leads some more frustrations from your angle regarding
that part of the grand stand that's out of commission.
Speaker 10 (42:05):
Yeah, look, there there's we have a frustration that's additional
it's additional space, right that we could have people sitting.
So I think regardless of what the future holds for that.
You know, we can always grow the stadium through temporary
setting if we need to. But at the moment, our
crowd size is it's not too much of a factor,
(42:28):
but it is. It is a bit of an eyesore,
isn't it, Like sitting.
Speaker 11 (42:31):
It's hard to watch our tes the stags on TV
when you see such a big portion of the stand
that's uh, that's out of use. So there's a there,
like I'm sure you're the public where.
Speaker 10 (42:44):
There's a there's an outdoor stadium working group that's trying
to solve you know, what we do with the stadium
and including that will be what that's what's happening with
those seats. So yeah, I agreed, like it is a
it's hard to hard to it's hard to have that
area just sitting empty right when we're trying trying to
get as many self and supporters into the stadium. But
(43:04):
we'll work with what we have to.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Yeah, But nonetheless, who is going to be a hell
of an occasion on Saturday afternoon there at Rugby Park Stadium.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Appreciated your time on the MUSTERUS afternoon.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
And it's been a hectic week, no doubt, for everybody involved.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
All this left is say for Saturday is Antler's up?
Speaker 10 (43:21):
Absolutely mate? I appreciate it, Eddie. Not that.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
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Speaker 2 (43:39):
Like count myself shredding cheese.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
I wanted to blame somebody else, but then I remembered,
with great power comes great responsibility. Great to catch up
with Hua Tamariki there chief consecutive for Rugby Southland. To
put it into context from a Ragby sealphone perspective regarding
the week holding the shield, that's us for the afternoon
fully shield special coming up on the muster tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
I made him you'll enjoy the afternoon.
Speaker 6 (44:06):
Hey, well all right, sure he'll go there. And what
are you going again?
Speaker 1 (44:09):
For stock selling action comes Curtsey PGG Rights and every Tuesday,
Wednesday and Thursday here on the muster. So we catch
up with Dave Morrison out of PGG Rights in here
and good talking about the chaut and sale yard sale
this morning take or what happened.
Speaker 10 (44:23):
A flute?
Speaker 9 (44:23):
Andy looked pleasant morning in this morning? Just a smaller
yelling a game just obviously this time of year. Just
the lame big big heavy lambs sort of twenty four
or five lambs and the hook. There are two hundred
and fifty to sixty dollars many lambs sort of.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
One eighty five one.
Speaker 9 (44:42):
Ninety's the smaller of the lame, sort of semi scores.
Speaker 12 (44:46):
Lest prime name sort of anywhere from sort of one
thirty five to.
Speaker 9 (44:53):
The mutterin just of two or three nines of us.
Speaker 12 (44:56):
Is the best name one forty one fifty that's in
pretty heavy use. All the same medium sort of one
twenty one twenty five with the lighting condition use just surround.
It's sort of seventy five to eighty five dollars. Stall
lams are pretty quietly if they do, and the best
of stall lamps are one twenty five to one thirty,
(45:17):
the very small lamps sort of one fifteen to one twenty,
and that wraps up the over
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