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Andy Muir talks to Penny Simmonds, Peter Gardyne, Hilary Copland, Rob Bird, Taylor Painter and Sam Riley.

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Speaker 4 (00:14):
Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hakanui. My
name is Andy Muller here until two o'clock of course
thanks to Peter's genetics. Welcome along special mentioner Chris Wilson
for filling in as host over the past few shows
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Speaker 2 (01:37):
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Speaker 4 (01:38):
Starting off the hour with Penny Simmons MP from mccargill
as well as being Minister for the Environment and the
latest from a government perspective regarding the seven Defense emergency
down here in the South due to the winds. Hillary
Copeland of Banamin Crockshank Pride, the lawyers is talking wells.
We have Peter Gardine who farms over at Napdale out

(01:59):
of peace Fair in those winds a couple of weeks ago,
and the situation over in his neck of the woods
in general from Environment South and rob BYRD and wrap
up they owl a Taylor Painter from Bealfy Young Farmers.
It was all going the Bauf Rugby Club with the
bar cup, so we caught catch up with Taylor just
to talk young farmers chat as well Sam Riley from
PGG Rights and giving an update from the Laudville Saleyards.

(02:21):
Then we'll start the yewl with Penny Simmons. This is
the muster until two o'clock thanks to Peters Genetics everybody
as Penny Simmons is MP from the Cargo as well
as Minister for the Environment, makes other portfolios and joins

(02:44):
us this afternoon.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Penny, good afternoon.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Look, we're still in a state of civil emergency down
here in the South. Indications are that it is going
to be lifted perhaps later on in the week, but
make bone make no clams about it was certainly still
in that state.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Good afternoon, Yes, good afternoon.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
I'm up here in Wellington actually just watching to party.
MARII come in with the media scrum all around them,
so that's going to be interesting to watch. But look,
just look, it's been a long time for many people
and it's going to be much longer as the cleanup continues.
I understand we're down to hundreds now rather than thousands

(03:25):
without power. But by golly, those few hundred that are left,
they will be sick and tired of it, So you know,
our thoughts are with them. And look just going round
the province seeing the amount of cleanup that is going
to be there. It's going to be working progress for weeks,
if not months, and it's going to impact on farmer's

(03:47):
productivity and certainly it's going to be quite significant, significant
financial fallout both for the rural sector but also for
rural businesses. And one of the things now looking back
is looking at what we can learn, the lessons that
we can learn from this. It gives us a wake

(04:10):
up call again. I guess a lot of us wire
much better prepared straight after the christ earthquakes, and I
think in some ways as individuals, as businesses, we've let
that fall away a bit, just even simple things like
I remember after the earthquakes the people up there saying

(04:30):
they never let their petrol gauge go down in their
car under half full, because you know, you're so hampered
out in the rural sector if you can't get petrol,
if there isn't power on, you can't get petrol. Little
things like that. Also that being prepared individually with food tortures, chandles,

(04:51):
alternative cooking options, things like that. There's no doubt that
dairy farmers have really taken on board the need to
have generators. I understand there's a huge number of orders
in it's going to take to about February for a
lot of those to come through, but just understanding the

(05:12):
importance for dairy farmers of having those alternative electricity generation options.
So look, I think it has given us a wake
up call. But the other big thing that I think
needs to be discussed here at Central Government is the
loss of cell phone and internet coverage. And I know

(05:32):
talking to a number that the same thing during cyclone Gabrielle.
And of course the rural sector gets so much more
impacted by that, particularly those that are living alone or vulnerable.
You know, we had instances of people that needed oxygen

(05:53):
and you know, had no communication to be able to
let our district is no and so all of those
services it was made just that much harder through loss
of cell phone coverage and internet coverage. So that's something
I'll certainly be bringing up here at Central Government.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Okay, so you're one of these people that's been without
power for almost a fortnight.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
And yes, we can't blame power in it.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
They're doing anything and everything in all these organizations to
get it up and running, but you can understand how
they feel let down by the system as such.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
Yeah, Look, one of the things that we are looking
at is trees around power lines. A lot of the
damage was from trees bringing power lines down, and so
that's something across the country we need to look at.
We are spending a fortune from Cyclone Gabriel and other
events reinstating power when you know, we could be preventing

(06:56):
this by having some legislation around how close to our
lines trees can be planted and also what height they
can be allowed to get to. So there is some
work being done.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
There as far as Taskforce workers to come down and
help with around the fencing situation.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Is that something that's been talked about.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
No, Look, it hasn't, and I think that's mainly because
people have taken some time to assess just how much
work there is, so we haven't got a good picture
of that yet. But that's something that I'm happy to
take up with central government once we know.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
I suppose Task Force workers are still a thing. It
used to be one at one time.

Speaker 6 (07:38):
Look, a lot of it has been quite specific to
the work that was done over COVID, and a lot
of those workers aren't available now.

Speaker 5 (07:49):
But of course, with unemployment at the level it is at,
there's options there.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
So Prime Minister Christopher Luxen, he's only just got back
in the country, I understand, but he'll be coming end
of the South at some states.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
Look, that's a discussion that I'll be having with him. Yes,
he just got back in the country on Sunday, so
he's been away for a few days, so I'll be
able to have that discussion with him.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
So what are your words to people at the moment though,
especially those who are just feeling a bit frustrated, Penny,
and you can understand.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
Yeah, Look, I think the incredible resilience of our communities
has just been amazing. To see people helping each other out,
helping neighbors out, helping elderly those that are quite vulnerable
in the communities. That's just been amazing to see. There's
a lot of lessons for us all to learn from it,

(08:39):
as I said earlier, but just you know, really thinking
of people over these next few weeks and months as
those with the most damage trying to reinstate fences and
get trees sorted out. And for those that have still
got power, we hope that that's going to be resolved

(09:00):
in the next few days, because, by golly, that's tough
for them being that long without power.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Now, resilience is a word that can be overused, but
that's pretty much the situation was struck down here over
the last couple of weeks. A lot of community events,
a lot of barbecues that are happening as well.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
Yeah, and look, businesses and people just helping each other out.

Speaker 7 (09:20):
You know.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
I heard of shopkeepers who were barbecuing for forty eight
hours straight, rather than letting food go off, cooking it
up for the local community. People looking out for elderly neighbors,
looking in on them, making sure they're all right. So
tremendous work from people out in the communities. But we've

(09:42):
got some lessons to learn at central government as well
as as well as local government.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Penny Simmons, always appreciate your time on the muster. Now
you go follow that media scram see what goes on.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
Eh, thank you, Okay, bye.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Penny Simmons, MP, from the cargo. You're listening to the Muster.
Next we're heading to Nepdale, catching up with Peter Gard on.

Speaker 8 (10:07):
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Speaker 2 (10:22):
Five is the artist. This is the Muster on Hakanui.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
We're joined next by Peter Gard Iron Farming at Netdale,
Blast from the Past music wise, Pete, how's everything in Netdale?

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (10:34):
Everything that that was pretty good. The we we've got
a bit of wind, so if anyone's looking for the forward,
there's no short of forward and self on this here.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
That's going to be the biggest understatement of the year.
We've had a bit of wind.

Speaker 9 (10:47):
Yeah, we've had a.

Speaker 5 (10:48):
Bit of one.

Speaker 9 (10:49):
We've lost a few trees, so we're going to have
a bit to clean up there. But I mean farm
and the and the natural environment, and that's part of
the gig for better or.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
For So how did you feel there in general with
that breeze, whether it on breeze or that wind.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Let's be honest.

Speaker 9 (11:05):
There, we've got over one hundred and fifty trees down
in the clean up, we've started some of it, but
I mean we're rud in the middle of seeding too,
trying to teel lambs for the gal So yeah, it'll
take a while to clean it all up. We're just
prioritizing the areas that we can get biggest span for buck,
so where we can clean up the most amount of
meters of fence per our spent. And yeah, I'm very

(11:28):
aware that we've got to We've got a probably a
moderate problem here. There's goings that are far worse off
than us, and especially Matsdale Sales seems to have had
a pretty worse run than us.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
I'd say, has it caused a lot of damage to
your fencing system?

Speaker 9 (11:43):
Yeah, it has caused a bit of damage. Luckily, we're
the biggest trees are that the down is actually not
hates the whole wars on that block, so that's not
as bad. Yeah, so the others. But it's also the
time year where we don't have anything behind a hot
or or anything like that, so we're not super bad
like that. So that's just yeah, it'll be something that

(12:04):
will keep chipping away when we can all annoy.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
You've got a lay pretty pretty well over there. You
just carrying on with what you need to do because
life doesn't stop on the farm, but everybody's been treated
differently by the way that mother natures fell upon them.

Speaker 9 (12:19):
Oh yeah, definitely, And we're pretty fortunate where we've live.
We got power back relatively soon. We're only a couple
of days without pair. One of our staff members who
lives a bit further away, she was just show up
a week without power. Yeah, so others that. But I
mean right now we're sort of hopefully finishing up sewing
oats today and then getting onto peace. So that's just

(12:41):
late enough. But that's what the salt temperatures are telling
us to do. So we can't really be fluffing around
with picking out trees. It doesn't make money when we've
got to get crops in the ground and make sure
our stock are our feed and all the rest of
it first, and then worry about these other things. And
the secondary sense.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Even having sunshine yesterday, I was coming back from Queenstown
and through northern South and there, to be honest, and
a couple of places in particular, it looked an absolute picture.
The lambs were booming and they seemed to be a
bit more cover on the paddix.

Speaker 9 (13:12):
Yeah, and we did a part to read on the
home place. We're just doing the other ones at the moment.
And where we went into leaving with huge covers better
than we've every gone, we crashed down pretty low turns
sort of similar to last year. But we held on
bitter than some guys around us. And then it's just
it's creeped up about eighty kilograms of dry meta in
the last three weeks for us, And I think I've

(13:35):
been probably a little bit aggressive buying kettle because of
trying to buy the death a wee bit. But you know,
I think we're in the phase where things are coming
right for us. But we did use nitrogen over a
feely good work of the property two weeks ago ish
because we saw.

Speaker 10 (13:51):
That in need.

Speaker 9 (13:52):
And if your gras gets below that critical mess of
sort of seventeen hundred average for your whole farm eighteen
hundred everage, which is where we were at eighteen hundred,
you know, you really lose that grunt. If you can
keep it in that growing phase, it's just such a
huge multiplor effect for using that little bit of something
to get up on keep on that plane.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
Everybody else in the Nepdale region were they as fortunate
as you guys.

Speaker 9 (14:18):
From what I've seen, and this is something that I
know people might agree withs have disagree with. Bigger trees
that haven't been as well maintained in heaches, that haven't
been topped seem to have been the worst effected around here.
I think just that more forget the area to catch
the wind, seems to have put those ones worse. So yeah,
there's sort of yeah, I don't know. I think that

(14:40):
they'll sort of moderate. I don't think we're the best off,
but I don't think we're the worst off.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Yeah, but it's fascinating, will be the word. Looking at
these massive macrocarpas. They haven't just snapped off like a
poplar or anything halfway, but the whole base of the
trees just collapsed over. There's some surreal pictures that we're
seeing else in about Oh yeah, it needs.

Speaker 9 (15:03):
A massive old tree, some of them. And it's yeah,
there's going to be a big cleaner, you know, like
those big boys. My recommendation to everybody would be, if
you can please try and hire in a twenty ton digger.
I've done a bit with these that style of trees
in the past. We've cleaned up properly with random massive
trees on it, and from a safety and a productivity

(15:25):
point of view, I think it's pretty hard to beat
having a twenty ton digger with a greateful and a
good operator to help you out there. That would be
the big thing I'd say is try and deal with
the smaller stuff, medium stuff yourself and you. Yeah, ideally
I can't endorse a twenty ton digger with grefful enough
in those bigger trees.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
But if you're not fortunate enough to be able to
get a twenty ton gret, a lot of people getting
on the saw making ends meet, trying to get the
power up and running, especially in a dairy sense. It's
just one of those things you've got to contend with
as well, along with the other workload. I mean, AI
and everything's kicked off too, right.

Speaker 9 (15:59):
Yeah, I know you've got a really good point there,
And we're probably lucky that we're our biggest trees are down.
It's not the end of the world for us, so
we're just doing everything else first. And yeah, I mean
at the moment we're trying to run the drill pretty
late into the night and all the rest of it,
so I know what that's like. And yeah, I guess
some solar units and some fences to keep cattle out

(16:20):
of the trees or something like. That's not a bad
idea of it, yeah, and others it's pretty untidy. And
I feel for the dairy police because you know, without power,
I'm milking, you know, once or twice a day. It's
pretty fundamental for them when we're not affected to that
same effect with the sheep and beef system at the moment.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
Now, we spoke to you pre lamming, and you had
a message there around mental health and taking the opportunity
to look after yourself. We fast forward to the current situation.
What would you say to people who are trying to
comprehend what's on the farm at the moment.

Speaker 9 (16:52):
Yeah, no, that's a good point.

Speaker 10 (16:56):
For us.

Speaker 9 (16:56):
We don't work Sundays unless we have to, and I'm
actually a mess event of that.

Speaker 10 (17:02):
When I used to.

Speaker 9 (17:02):
Run crutching games when I was a young chap in
short pants, we used to only crutch six days a week,
and I honestly guarantee that we did more lambs in
a week on a six day week then we could
have done it a seven day week. And probably the
best example of that is if your share is are
ever grumpy? The first question I always asked them as

(17:24):
when was your last day off? And if the last
day off was three weeks ago, it's usually not my problem.
If the last day off was sooner than that, it
might be my problem. So what I say is, like, man,
the problem out these shoes. They're in a change. It's huge,
But try and have a day a week off or
something if you can, because I think at as great

(17:46):
you mean your health, and my fully heartfelt position is
that I believe you will achieve more by only working
six days a week then you will seven days a week,
or limiting the work one seventh day if possible.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Yeah, And it's just about having looking at the bigger picture,
I suppose, And you've got through the busy spell, especially
if you're a lamb in a lambing sense high country.
You might argue with that at the moment you're just
starting to get through it now, but tailing and the lights.
You just got to take things in your stride sometimes
and just keep a clear, clear head to suppose.

Speaker 9 (18:19):
Oh, definitely, And like I understand what that's like because
I do the lemming and then I turn around and
we do a seeding so you kind of do two
big things back to back. And that's I'm the big
thing of like, we don't we don't see it on
a Sunday unless it's really really bad. And I know
that the guys. I'm pretty sure the guys love the
fact that they know that Sunday is for their own

(18:41):
life and your family or their friends or whatever they
want to do. And I would rather do more hours
on the other days of the week and then you
just take that day off and just enjoy life. Yeah,
because you're not here forever.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Good time, not a long time. I like that, Peter
guard I always appreciate your time.

Speaker 9 (19:00):
Gafitally thanks.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
Peter Gardin of natal with some really relevant advice too. Next,
Hillary Copeland from Bannerman Crookshank Pride the Lawyers.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
You're listening to the Muster, Thank you.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
This is a muster on Hakaui's pretty relevant advice there.
From five, a group from the late nineties into the
early two thousands. I'm sure a lot of listeners would
reminisce about the days and the rugby clubs of the
DJs turning up and them, but that song being one
of the bangers there. As we catch up next with
Hillary Copeland out of Bannerman, Crookshank Pride, the Lawyers. Good afternoon, Hi,

(19:54):
how are you going very well of what has been
an interesting couple of weeks. But there's a lot on
the table for people to consider at the moment. This
is something we're talking about today. It's all about wills,
something that I don't know. More often than not, unfortunately,
just gets put on the back burner, right.

Speaker 11 (20:11):
Yeah, So that was one of the reasons I thought
I'd better do this topic. I don't think we've done
it this year, and it's just timely. At this time
of year. I find lots of people well, actually seems
have been a bit quiet in the last few weeks,
as you mentioned, but leading up to Christmas everyone goes
on a mad dash to tick off those things off
there to do list. So I thought it was a

(20:33):
timely to remind people of the importance of having a
will and or if you've already got one, checking it's
still relevant and whether it needs updated.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
Just right back to the mayor basics. What actually is
the definition of a will?

Speaker 11 (20:48):
So the definition of a will, I guess the key
will is it's the document that sees what you want
to happen on your death in terms of your assets
and any other wishes you might have in terms of
funeral directions. So having a will gives you peace of
mind knowing that the people or charities or organizations in

(21:11):
some cases will be taken care of after you've gone.
And we I guess I would also say a will
can relieve financial and emotional strain on your family, and
it helps people to just understand what your wishes were
and then those left behind can implement those. So ultimately,
if you do not have a will, your assets may

(21:33):
not pass as you wanted them to or to the
people you wanted them to.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yeah, a great point you bring up there, they won't
pass as you wish them to go.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
So what happens there?

Speaker 11 (21:42):
The law would kick in if you don't have a will,
So that if you don't have a will, it's I strongly,
strongly encourage everyone to have one. If you don't, there
is the administration Act kicks and you die what we
call and test it, and there is a process. But
as I say, it's way easier for everyone involved if

(22:03):
you've done or you've completed your will, and then it
means that you know you're not dictated by what the
law says. You can do what you want to. And
a lot of wills are very simple, and others depending
on what you own or your family dynamic or how
you own things. You know, that can make things a
bit more complex. But that is where we come in

(22:25):
and we're here to help you make that processes through
free and simple as possible.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
Now you here about executives for people's wills and the likes.
There's a lot to go into picking the right people
to help you with your wishes in the future, right, yes.

Speaker 11 (22:41):
So you have trustees and executives, so that is typically
the people, well person or people. Sometimes it can be
an organization. So sometimes as a law firm we might
forel for certain reasons be appointed at a trustee and
executive and those are the people that are responsible for
carrying out your wishes as outlined in your will. The

(23:02):
other key one is for people with young children is
testametric guardians, so that you know, parents can appoint someone
who would help make important decisions for children if both
parents aren't there. And I guess the terminology sometimes I
think or even the you know, just talking about will

(23:23):
sort of it's a bit of a morbid topic of
lese and it puts people off. But I cannot scroop
en us the amount of times I have people sit
at my desk in my office and once we've done it,
like sometimes if it's simple, it's you know, it's very simple,
painless exercise, and at the end they're like, oh my gosh,
I've been waiting for years.

Speaker 10 (23:44):
To do that.

Speaker 11 (23:44):
I wish you've made it so simple and easy. Should
have done it years ago. So don't be scared by
the whole process. It's it's relatively simple and pain free.
And in those more complex structures, you know, in a
farming situation or depending on what structures and ownership entities

(24:05):
you have, obviously we would work. We work in with
accountants and whoever else is necessary to make sure we've
got things set up the best that we can to achieve,
you know, the objectives that the parties want to achieve.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
Now, when an individual passes, it's unfortunate how it does
get messy. But can the executives for a will, can
they be challenged by siblings and the life.

Speaker 11 (24:30):
Yes, but that is where I mean Yes, people always
talk about, you know, the very American ways people talk
about the reading of the will. It's quite an American
term that said, we sit down with people and go
through it. And people also talk about contesting a will,
and yes, unfortunately we do see that. But again that's

(24:52):
where I'm like, come and see us and get it sorted,
because that's my job is to advise you properly to
avoid it exactly that situation. So get the right advice,
you know, and quite often nine times out of ten,
in more, when you've got significant assets, it would involve

(25:13):
working with your lawyer, and I would always check in
with the accountant and get it set up right so
we can avoid any issues after, because the last thing
you want is family, you know, having a fallout after
because something hasn't been done properly.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
Because you hear the artists as well Hilary about people
being told before the individual passes about what the will
will contain.

Speaker 11 (25:36):
Yeah, and I was just about to say that Andy,
I am, you know, in the old days, I don't
know what we call the old days, but you know
there's a can of word. Yeah. Back in the day,
people and I'm talking probably a few generations ago, everyone
kept their cards quite close to their chest and didn't
tell anyone those days are gone. And I personally am

(25:58):
a massive advocate for openness and transparency and communication because
it lets front foot and deal with it. So if
there are going to be issues, they can be dealt with.
I've got personal experiences where you know, people have told
you know, people share that information, and that's personal choice.

(26:20):
And again it depends on the family situation. Sometimes they
are interesting dynamics that we need to be mindful of,
and I'm extremely mindful of that because I don't want
anyone to be upset or hurt by anything that unrevels.
So again, all of that is part of that information
gathering phase and setting up the will so that we

(26:42):
can address any issues if need be. But look, the
majority of wills can be pretty simple. You know, in
a very simple scenario, it's mum and dad and then
they leave everything to each other with what we call
a gift over to children, So if mum and dad
are both no longer there, it all goes to the children.
So it can be very simple. But there are more

(27:02):
complex ones, which is even more important that you get
the right advice and get it sorted. And the other
thing is once you have one, making sure you review
it and it's necessary updated. So any big event in
your life, buying a property, entering a relationship, ending a relationship,

(27:25):
you know, is it still relevant. The other thing as
well is if you get married, your will is null
and voice. People are horrified when I tell them that.
So if you made a will before you were married
and then you get married, it's yes, it's not relevant.
You need to update it.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
So if anybody's listening to this and want to get
some lots to get in touch with the team of
Batamin Crookshanng Pride.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
The lawyers talk about will's Hillary, how do they do it?

Speaker 11 (27:53):
They can pop into the office at five Fearfield Street
or otherwise on our website which is CEP Law dot
co dot nzeed and here's a office tappy with all
our details.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Hillary Copeland always great to chat.

Speaker 11 (28:07):
Awesome, Thanks Andy, You have a good day.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
Hillary Copeland of Bannaman Crookshank Pride. The lawyers all about wills.
Where there is a wild is away right, Well, not
always everything is as it seems that the team at
Bannaman Crookshank Pride helps you out regarding law. Before the
end of the hour, Taylor Painter from Bouf Young Farmers,
but up next from Environment South and them Rob Bird. This

(28:38):
is the master on Haka Noi Rob Bird of Environment
South and joins us next. He is Land Sustainability Officer
in the spot which is sponsored by Environment Southland.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Rob. Good afternoon.

Speaker 12 (28:50):
Good afternoon, Andy, I hope you're going well right.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
So the recovery from the winds, as we just talked
about then about the situation, what's the latest from the
Nees perspective.

Speaker 12 (29:01):
Yeah, it's great. More and more farmers are getting their
power reconnected, especially to their dairy sheds, those in the
dairy sector, and it seems that many more people are
slowly getting back to a bit of normality and or
moving fairly closer to it. We're still working with those
who haven't got power or dealing with on farm infrastructure issues,

(29:25):
especially things like vencing and stuff that I've been speaking
to people. The damage caused last month was a wide
range of issues really, firstly for farmers and their families,
workers being cut off at home, animal health issues that
they've had to also manage, and also the environmental issues

(29:46):
and logistic issues that are having trees an object thrown
around all over the farm seen many shed roofs lifted off,
brand new fences that have had trees come over the.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
Yeah, so what is an environment south and doing to
help farmers that are in need of support.

Speaker 10 (30:06):
We're here to.

Speaker 12 (30:07):
Support farmers in the best way we can. It doesn't
need to be strictly in our work areas, but all
sorts of things. I'll say, the EMS is running, so
we've got welfare and logistics issues. We're certainly welcoming any
questions around land manage and environmental side of things. We

(30:27):
can help with managing effluent ponds, say on dairy farms.
We know a lot of guys have high ponds and
they possibly need to irrigate, so we welcome any contact
that people might have questions around that. Hopefully the weather
is turned. Yes, they was one out of the basket yesterday,

(30:48):
but there has been a lot of rain and we
certainly realize that some of the effluent ponds are quite high.
So if you think about giving us a call to
manage that, that'll be a great first step. And yeah,
we're looking here first and foremost to help people.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
Now around cultivation, everybody, you're seriously behind as far as
getting the iron horses up and running out on the paddocks.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
There'll be a priority at the moment, no doubt.

Speaker 12 (31:15):
Yes, as I say, as hopefully the weather's turned and
obviously cultivation has been put on the back burner in
dealing with a recovery from an event like this we
saw last month. The wet weather the follow didn't help either.
With a bit of sun around, farmers will be itching
to get out there and cultivate, with a window for

(31:35):
getting seeds into the ground only getting narrower now as
we're getting sort of closer to Christmas. A few things
to remember around cultivation, and I won't go into large amounts,
but particularly with grass to crop, particularly no cultivation in
critical source areas. Making sure you have your five meter

(32:00):
buffers and ten meter buffers on slopes ten to twenty
and anything zero to mine as the five meter buffers.
And also remembering particularly around winter grazing, that you double
that so it's a ten meter buffer for zero to
nine degrees slope and a twenty meter buffer for ten

(32:22):
to twenty. But if you guys can get onto the website,
we've got some excellent information on the ES website and
if you just type in cultivation into the search bar
it will take you hopefully to a page on some
of those cultivation rules that will help people. But we're

(32:42):
always here to help people and people can easily call
into the land Sustainability team or our compliance team for
further information.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
So that's the key messaging today, Rob, get in touch
regarding cultivation.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Have you got any.

Speaker 12 (32:55):
Concerns, get in touch, Get in touch if you've got
any queries about it. It can be a little bit
of minefield for some people. But as to say again,
first port of call if you if you can just
have a look at that web page. We've got some
excellent videos there on YouTube. But again if you want
to speak to a person, there's always something to speak

(33:16):
on to the end of the line, and we're quite
happy to come out to the property.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
So what's the number to get in touch with the
land sustainability team, Rob.

Speaker 12 (33:23):
The land sustainability number here is eight hundred seven six
eight eight four five, so it's eight hundred seven six
eight eight four five.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Good on your Rob, Always good to check on the muster.

Speaker 12 (33:37):
Wonderful Andy. Always great to talk to you and as
I say again, please keep in contact with es.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Rob Bird, land Sustainability Officer, as Environment Southland.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
This is the muster before we rap up.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
Taylor Painter from Balfy Young Farmers.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
This is the Master on Hakanui.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
Before we wrap up, Taylor Painter of Balfer Young Farmers
joins us once again. Balfer Young Farmers Club had their
annual Barkup or bark Off, whichever you'd like to call
it at the week d.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Taylor, Good afternoon.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
It sounds as I was a pretty good evening down
there in the land of Maroon and Gold.

Speaker 10 (34:29):
It was great. Yeah, No, the Barkup went really well.
I'm really really so, you know, getting in, you know,
sitting up, getting sponsors organized and all of that, and yeah,
obviously half the profits are going to the Belfer Scouts
and cubs and it was really great. I think we

(34:51):
probably had about ten to fifteen of the Belfer Scouts
getting us a hand with raffles, handing out prizes, and
some of the kids even got involved with the human Bark,
which was really awesome to see.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
Well, that's a disturbing thing about the night. The human
bark was almost more popular than.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
The dog bark.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (35:15):
I think we had around forty entries for the working
dog and then this year we decided to cat the
Human Bark to ten peers. We had a kids get
up on stage and do it from the scouts, and
then it was basically just about couple verse couple for
the barkup Harry McCallum and Megan Wife.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
Yeah, yeah, I was about to say, I've seen that
photo of those two winning it.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
What does that tell you?

Speaker 10 (35:42):
Oh, I don't even want to know what happens in
the droom.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
And you said it not be with g to keep going.

Speaker 10 (35:52):
We also had Max McCallum and Janelle McCullum, so it
was basically brother verse brother who's the better McCollum and
I sadly Harry came out on top.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Oh Goodyeah, that's good from you actually some of your
bitter work, Taylor. So so, like you say, it was
it was a success, a successful evening going towards the
worthy cause.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
So it was never a bad night out there in
balf that was it.

Speaker 10 (36:18):
No, No, no, we had had bad management the band
there playing, so they kept off at around twenty to
nine and carried us fur until midnight. And no, it
was the environment and everything. It was really good, really
chilled out and you know the evening ran really smoothly,
so we're all happy with howween.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
How did everybody around the bell for region, from your understanding,
how did they fear in the wind?

Speaker 10 (36:44):
Yeah, there's quite a lot of damage. Obviously, a lot
of trees down. Powell was out for quite a while.
But yeah, we the fire brigade actually did like a
barbecue on Thursday night, my Suesday night, and so it
was just great. So like people who didn't have power
to go down have a bv end all of that

(37:07):
and catch up. But no, I think I think everything
and everyone's starting to slowly recover, and obviously there are
some people still without power, yeah, and all of that,
so you know, it's not gonna Roame wasn't built in
a day, so yeah, it'll be a while before everything
is semi back to normal. But hey, at least there's

(37:28):
a lot of flywood around the place.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
Well, I suppose when life gives you gives you a lemon,
you've got to try and make lemonade somehow.

Speaker 10 (37:35):
Oh exactly.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
So it's certainly something.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
Like we say, everybody's still without power, Our thoughts are
with you, and sooner or later, hopefully everything is restored
as far as it about for clubs though. Everything seems
to be ticking away.

Speaker 5 (37:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (37:48):
No, everything's taken along quite nicely. Now that the barkup
is over, we have another event at the end of
the month. We have Missed Belfa on the twenty nights
of November, so if you want tickets, you can head
to our Facebook page and we have a link up
on one of the posts where you can go and

(38:10):
purchase your tickets. It's going to be quite a good night.
I think we've got about around fifteen to eighteen drag queens.
We've got quite a quite a few of the bealthy
young farmer employees that have stepped in for business businesses.
So I think it's once it's all come together, it's

(38:31):
going to be a fantastic night.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Now.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
They did this event there a few years ago and
my wife took her friend who's a corporate high flyer
from Auckland. She came up for a night in Belfa
and what was the event. It was miss Belfer, So
that was her initiation into Belfer nightlife.

Speaker 10 (38:49):
Oh jeeus should be a good night. I think we're
all really looking forward to it. So we're still in
the process of planning everything. No it's coming coming along
quite nicely.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Yeah, it'll be a grand event for sure.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
As far as other happenings are from the club, are
you doing lots of fundraising going and helping people out
with regards to trees and feedcing of the likes.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Or what's the go.

Speaker 10 (39:13):
Yeah, so we do have a fundraiser, got a group
hitting out on farm to go chop up some firewood
for a fundraiser. We've also got a few members who
are doing Moviimber this month. So quite a lot of
baby faces turned up to the meeting the other night.

(39:37):
Baby faces, yeah, baby faces. Yeah, they their mos off
and they're now baby faced.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
Oh well, and that's going towards a great cause as well.
That's the beauty of November.

Speaker 10 (39:48):
Right, Oh exactly, it's definitely a great cause. So yeah,
I think we'll chuck a link up and if anyone
wants to donate to that, they can help out the
young farmers.

Speaker 4 (39:59):
With m So you guys sound like you're too social
to actually be doing any work.

Speaker 10 (40:06):
By the time we have our monthly meetings and then
Thirsty Thursday every week. It's quite good and obviously you
know take tailing and lambing and carving and all that
thing being quite busy as well, so I haven't really
had the chance to get out and do fundraisers because
obviously everyone's been super busy. So obviously now that's slowing down,

(40:30):
we'll probably get back on the horse and get some
more fundraisers going.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
Well, that's the big thing as well. At the moment,
you talk about getting off the farm and doing stuff,
and I give you a jib about it, but at
the same time, it's about getting off the farm and
actually having a yarn and catching up.

Speaker 10 (40:44):
Right, Oh exactly. And I mean everyone needs those breaks,
you know, even if it's for a couple of hours,
just to get off the farm and relax and chill
out and you know, hang out with people, and it's
definitely good for your mental health, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
So when do you hold your meetings, Taylor?

Speaker 10 (41:03):
So we hold our meetings the first Monday of every month.
At the moment, we are having our meetings at Riversdale Pub.
So yeah, if you meet any questions asked or want
to know what we're up to, just head to our
Facebook page Beffy Young Farmers or our Instagram and you

(41:24):
can see what we're up to on our socials.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Have you got your phones blocked back yet?

Speaker 11 (41:30):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Is it all above Is it all above board?

Speaker 10 (41:33):
Still, let's just say that some other clubs had some
fun writing in some fines for us.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Yeah. I heard a little bit about that. Actually not
to names.

Speaker 10 (41:45):
Yeah so yeah, but yeah, no the checking costume went
to someone our.

Speaker 6 (41:54):
It wasn't me.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
Yeah, it needed to Hey, get on your tailor will
leave it there. Always good to catch up and all
the best up there in this window.

Speaker 10 (42:03):
Not awesome, Thanks so much for that, Andy.

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Speaker 4 (42:18):
I p to my neighbor. He told his wife he
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the day in the pub. Gone but not for cotton.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
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Speaker 4 (42:33):
We'll leave it there for the My name's Andy Muller.
That says been the muster on Hakanui of course, Thank sir.
Peter's to Ednix podcasts going up shortly. Enjoy the afternoon,
see you tomorrow here for I'm a PGG writes and
present stock selling action that occurred at the Louisville sale
yards this morning. So we catching up with Sam Riley
to give us a rundown on prices. Good afternoon, How

(42:55):
do we.

Speaker 7 (42:55):
Go any high? You're pretty similar for the last couple
of weeks, to be quite honest. The prime land those
mate still good yachting of prime LANs coming in two
fifty to three hundred dollars on the tops of lows,
two hundred to two forty five on the mediums, and
one hundred and sixty to one ninety on the lighter

(43:15):
end prime lambs, the few with teeth coming through as well,
and they're sort of a net one fifty fio hundred
dollars in the years, the good heavy years going grew
well at the moment one eighty two twenty five and
the medium's one fifty to one seventy five for most
lighter injuries and one hundred, one hundred and thirty dollars
just a handful of store lambs, and today they were

(43:36):
one hundred and fifty one hundred and eighty dollars and
one pen of us and lands that all counted were
one hundred and forty dollars. That wraps up the sheet
mate into the kettle. The prime cattle today good guting
of prime kettle mainly siste of mainly cows. There quote
today steers five hundred klow plus stares four dollars sixty eight.

(43:56):
He was at three eighty to four to sixty kg,
theory three eighty to four four fifteen heathers at six
hundred and fifty kilos four twenty five akilo cows into
the kews. The good heavy kews are five hundred plus
kgs three dollars forty five to three dollars forty eight,
the medium kels at five hundred kilos two dollars eighty

(44:17):
to three dollars, and those lighter cows at four hundred
and thirty kilos two dollars two dollars sixty That wraps
up the prime kettle. And then just a handful of stores.

Speaker 9 (44:28):
And today.

Speaker 7 (44:30):
Good good call the share a heifers at three hundred
and sixty twelve kilos. They were yealings at eighteen hundred
and forty dollars. Some ciminite heifers it's three hundred and
forty six kilos seventeen hundred and sixty dollars, some yelling
chaar A cross mix six three hundred and ninety seven
kgs nineteen hundred and fifty dollars, and some two year

(44:51):
free from balls. At five hundred kilos they were twenty
two hundred and fifty dollars, just a small yarding of
store store kettle with Yeah, of course he's probably struggling
a wee bit with the lack of feed and seff
ones at the moment, right m oh
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