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September 7, 2025 43 mins

Andy Muir talks to Bruce Eade, Jeff Grant, Tarryn Benton, Murray Cockburn and Ben Dooley.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Just a young girl with the quick fuse. I reserve time,
wanna land lose. I was dreaming the bigger things. And
good afternoon, and welcome to the muster on Hakanui. I'm
Andy mioer here until two o'clock thanks to Peters geneis
I mate one said to me, it is better to
have loved and lost than not to have loved at all.

(00:22):
This is when the Stags lost to the Naki in
twenty eleven with the Renfrey shield, and when we lost
that game to Kennedy at the weekend, I actually thought
of that, saying again, so well done South and Stags.
We had the shield for a short frame, but nonetheless
we held the shield. That's what it comes down to.
The all Blacks as well. Helliver went over the box.
That was one game of rugby right, and they get

(00:44):
to do it again next Saturday night at the cake Tin.
As we carry on, the music is imagine dragons. The
song here called thunder summed up the weather on Saturday night.
Five day forecasts brought to you by twin Farm tefrom
and stuff text. The proof is in the progeny Teffron
dot co dot Nzie. Speaking of the weather, this afternoon

(01:06):
sunny with like northwesterlies and a higher fourteen. Tomorrow cloudy
with breezy westerlies two and eight. Wednesday partly cloudy with
breezy nor westerlies four and eleven. Thursday scattered showers of
westerlies forming four and eleven again and on Friday showers
of brisk westerlies five and eight. So temperatures to hand
Clinton's six point eight, Harriet six point five, Northern South

(01:27):
from five point nine, Riverton eight point fourteen now six
point four, Tetao seven point two, Winton five point eight,
Woodland's six point eight, with Bruce Seed of Calso starting
us off, followed up by Jeff Grant talking about politics,
the National Party or the National Coalition. Things need to
change ahead of the election that's about thirteen months away.

(01:51):
Jeff just passes comment on that. Tarren Benton now Taran,
is involved with Jeff farm. Her and her husband Michael
manage it. She's in Stewed. Are you talking about her
journey to being there and what's it like being involved
with the cadets ship, having farming condicts help out on
farm Murray Cabra and for mainly minerals has a chat
and then Ben Dooley sheep beef and YouTube farmer out

(02:12):
of Wyndham. Has he done so about further ado. We'll
start the l next with Bruce Seed. This is the
muster until two o'clock thanks to Peter's genetics everybody. Bruce

(02:35):
Seed farms at Calso and joins us to kick off
the must of this afternoon and the Sergeant Dan Farming
ground up. Thanks for Sergeant Dan Stock foods here and
Gore Bruce. Good afternoon, pretty good house sings in Calso.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
A lot better today than it was yesterday. Anyway. It's
beautiful day here, not a cloud in the sky and
just a nice slight breezy and hopefully is dry up
some of the moisture from the weekend.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Have you had some serious rain numbers over the last
seven days?

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Oh, I wouldn't say serious. I think we're probably sitting
around that thirty five to forty mil for the last
seven to ten days. Yeah, but Saturday night was pretty
brutal alright. It was probably gone from the coldest day
we've had to one of the warmest ones we've had
this season.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
No, just as the all that's kicked off up here,
the rain was pounding down on the roof and the
wind really kicked off her and it sort of carried
on for most of the night. I know, we got
up in the morning to milk yesterday and had notification
to say there's been a power outage because the generator
had kicked in on the robots, but the hearing bone ones.
We had to go and get the generator out of

(03:41):
shed and I'll got on to the track because we
lost a phase in the high one. So yeah, I
think talking to the power man, it was reasonably general.
They had a few different areas to visit in the
early hours of yesterday morning.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
So how's everything going there? In general? Of course you
got the split carving, but is that time of year?
How's that going through?

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, we're away nicely, probably had a week slow pats
the last three or four days. We had another I
think we got up to seven or eight this morning.
There so another couple in the in the bar and
there now so back on the on the way again.
But it's everything looks good on days like this. It's
days a lot yesterday and Saturday morning you sort of

(04:20):
think shit, but you forget it's only only start a
September the way the winter was or lack of winter,
you sort of feel like we should be the middle
of October. But grass is growing, probably just not quite
quick enough at the moment. But like I said, today
and then tomorrow is meant to be even better. If
we're strung four or five of those days, Edward, I
mean together ahead of us, would would certainly be kicking

(04:42):
some goals.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
How far through carving would you say you are?

Speaker 2 (04:46):
We're over halfway there now, i'd sort of you get
to that point where you don't really count too many.
There's a lot less in the barn than there was
there and a lot more out the paddocks. So we're
making progress. But it's been pretty pretty still free touch,
would dare say it. We had the vete out this
morning just to calve care the other calf had a
head back. I just couldn't quite reach it. Old motorcross

(05:07):
injury and my shoulder doesn't have the same strength in
it now and by the vet are able to give
any for Jural though she's not pushing as much and
popped it out, so that was fine. So that's the
first visit we've had for the vets for a carving,
so pretty happy with that. At the stage we had
a lot of heat for calves, so many in fact,
we've actually had to sell a few. So it's good

(05:28):
to see them be able to be re homed, as
you might say, to somewhere else where they can go
and reach their potentially as opposed to send them on
the bobby truck.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
But it sounds that everything's ticking over.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah, no, it took it.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Not too bad.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
We're just on that n if he had your feed
at the moment with we stayed outside a bit longer
than maybe we should have looked back now at the
end of last season and that, but it's all right.
It's we're not in trouble yet. We should scrape through
if the weather picks itself up.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Are you looking at putting some furs on shortly?

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah? Yeah, no, I flicked, Oh, I think I put
about what do I spray about on twenty heat years
then not a lot obviously about two weeks ago and
we had the last that sort of fine spell and
I head for it rep in the teen days ago
and we made a bit of a plan for the
heap of blocks. So I've actually got that sitting in
bags in the shed that's a maintenance for cable for

(06:22):
it there that we're going to flick on ourselves, which
may or may not hit in the next couple of
days of just sort of wait and see what the
weather weather good'll just say, and how much rain we
we actually did have, whether we make any marks or not.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
So your major focus at the moment is pretty much
what you've been doing for the last couple of weeks,
getting those cars coming out.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, yeah, I think, and just oh, the crops about finished.
I think the next couple of days will be finished
on the crop. But then we've got the oats that
we drilled in after the maize. Those young stock will
start going on to them now, and that you're tied
them through for another month or so, so there's thirty
hec years oats to nibble their way through, so that

(07:00):
that buys us a wee bit of time as well.
So yeah, it'll be it'll come around soon enough. There'll
be these wire starting to be burned. I haven't actually
seen a surprise, and I haven't seen any tractors going
around with discs or anything silly just yet around this area,
so obviously it's not quite ready just yet.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
We'll touch a bit of footed Bruce. You probably wouldn't
have seen it too busy out on the trenches, but
the stags it was the shortest rain and shield history.
But you put all that to a side, I think
by half an hour by what Hawks pay had it
for once upon a time. But nonetheless, look for six
days we just proved that we punch above our weight
down here.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, well we've had it and that's all that matters.
I mean I did actually sneak off to the pub
and watch it. The logistics have actually gone to the
game weren't going to work out, but it certainly made
time to go and watch it at the pub. So
certainly wasn't the result we're all hoping for, but it
was probably a perfect storm. I mean, you won it,
you turn around, you celebrate, and then you've got to

(07:58):
play an unbit Canterbury who are stacked with bloody former
or current super players and all blacks who sat down,
done their homework and targeted you. Yeah, you needed everything
to go your way, and look, there was no disgrace
to the boys. I know whether he said that he was

(08:18):
embarrassed by that, there was no need to be embarrassed, mate,
you've done the province proud. The whole team has to
go out there and take it off. Y k a
lot you did. That was an amazing game. I'm surprised
that they didn't hear me yelling at the TV from
the yekto so proud, so happy. We've had it and
Southern Rugby's turned a corner in my opinion, so nobody
else has beaten Canary, so why should we be embarrassed

(08:39):
that we didn't gone forward? I think the boys have
still got another couple of ones in them. They've got
the belief now and we've all seen the Ranfurly Shield
tree of where it could end up. And if everything
goes right and has them beat Cannerbury and then a
Targo beat Tasman and then Counties beat a Targo, the
stacks get over it at the end of that or

(09:01):
something similar along it might be North Harbor. Sorry, very
far fetched for it to happen, but at the end
of the day we've had it. And that was quite
an impressive stat that came up on the TV the
other night. Is South and like the fifth highest holder
of the shield in history Canterbury Auckland was it man
or two? Maybe or Hawk's Bay and then a target.

(09:21):
I think, yeah, no, look, they've done awesome. I'm proud
of them. Yeah, I'm glad I couldn't get down there
in that. But they gave it all. And I mean,
you just look at the shield. Tad has had four
different winners in the last four four weeks. So when
was the last time that held all happened? So you know,
they say, oh, it's the shortest rain in history, but

(09:42):
you're digging for stats if you're looking at that. I mean,
we had it and that's it. When was the last
time a Targo had it?

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Absolutely? Bruce, will let you carry on? Will they? Technically
you're a tiger. We let your southern think you. We'll
catch up next time.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
No worries, mate, Stags for life.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Stags for life, pre seeds something it up there perfectly,
of course. In the Sergeant Dan Farming round Up, faces
of Sergeant Dan stock foods. This is the muster up next, Jeff, grunty.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
Whatever, it's.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Welcome back to the muster. Jeff Kruant joins us in
this afternoon's political round up. Good afternoon, Jeff, it sounds
like you're up in central the Targo. As the sun out.

Speaker 5 (10:33):
Yes, they're done to get a bit of sun. But
you know, Central major parts of it have had quite
a bit of rain over the last a few weeks,
a bit like Southland. Sorry for Central, that's quite good
to get rained at this time.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
Of the year.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
It sounds as though there's been a lot of wind
up that way too.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
Yeah, they definitely caught the end of that front that
went through that obviously hit a lot more damage in
terms of Wellington and Tasman area. But yeah, a bit
of wind.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Now you talk about when politicians are down for hot lend,
but nonetheless look local government restructure, you reckon, it's on
the cards. Well.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
The intention, from what I understand is now the RIMA
legislation will come into the House probably in December, the
introduction of the changes, and then the government is as
I understand, hopeful to have that through by July. Those
changes will be significant, especially for regional councils in terms

(11:34):
of what paths or what areas they will be responsible
for in terms of consent etc. And how much that
will become national nationally based, and then there will be
some implications for ter of tour authorities and so question
really starts to wind up on the basis that if
you're stripping back the regional council responsibilities, well you know,

(11:55):
what are they left to look after? And is there
more logical argument then look at the structure in the Southland,
as Rob Scott promoted, or do you say, is there
an opportunity for a single unitary authority for the whole
of Southend.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
The biggest issue seems to be though, is the blowback
from local government to central government regarding instructions on things.
Would you agree with that?

Speaker 5 (12:21):
Yeah, I look there's a bit of that in there too,
but if you looked at what the economy has done
over the last three years in terms of reduction in
employment and redundancies, public service reforms, you wouldn't have said
that the local government had stretched itself in this area.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
And arresting as well. Regarding the government, we're not far
away now from the general election. Yes it is still
just over a year away, but all of a sudden
we're seeing Winston Peter's at the weekend going into campaigning
mode from the word get go. But you're not convinced
that there won't be a change of government.

Speaker 5 (12:59):
I think that you'd have to say when you're doing
the scoreboard and putting the points on the table. There's
still a wee way to go because while the coalition
government I think has done well in terms of holding
themselves together and making some of those reforms, the implications
from those reforms. So let's take something like you can

(13:20):
now builder, we're about to be able to build a
house under seventy square meters without getting consent. Those sort
of things they haven't filtered through. The interest rates in
terms of mortgages haven't yet filtered through to where people
have more cash and in their weekly pay. So there are,
without any doubt my view, still some things that they

(13:43):
would need to get that people would start to feel
that the wind was behind them and that things were
starting to look good. And you know there's always by
Elections can be turbulent and you never know the result.
But the one in Auckland with the Mari seat showed that,
you know, the minority parties are still very.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Strong, but there's no voter engagement Jeff. But turnout for
that was well below fifty percent. This is a concerning
issue heading into local body politics as well as the
bigger picture is that nobody wants to be engaged with
the process.

Speaker 5 (14:19):
Yes, Well, democracy is a very thin thing when it
comes to societies being very upset about where they stand
in terms of the community. And I think that's a
classic situation where people tend to get turned off and
that's that could filter through to the central government in

(14:39):
terms of the election later and probably October next year.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
What do you make a former Labor in p Stewart
Natt changing his colors and going with Winston.

Speaker 5 (14:48):
Oh, the New zeal Fairs teams to collect these people,
don't they. Shane Jones came out of Labor administration. So
and I'll see one of the national MPs that I
didn't even realize have existed, a an MP from Wrong
and he obviously has joined up to using on pest. Look,
I think Winston, even at eighty is going to be

(15:11):
an impact in this next election.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
The Alliance vote is going to be crucial to understand
the impact of what this has on the writer to
remeat industry as well. Jeef, what are you thinking is
going to occur?

Speaker 5 (15:23):
Well on the current information and that's pretty limited until
we see the pack that comes out with all the
information in terms of what it is the sixty five
to thirty five percent going to look like. They talk
about negative pledges, which mean that the majority or the
one hundred percent of the board have to agree. They

(15:45):
talk about the shares that we currently holds in the
corporate one dollar will be on a secondary market in
some prediction by the chairman that they'll be worth a
dollar twenty six. I'd have to say, unless you are
required to need to have shares to supply, I don't

(16:05):
see how they would be at a dollar twenty six
because why would you need old shares? So there are
a number of questions. I think the issue of third
party is still not being dealt with, and so unless
there is some comfort around the sixty five percent takeover,
it's not a joint venture. I don't know where that
word came from, but unless there is some comfort around

(16:29):
how that will work going forward, I think the vote's
going to be hard until farmers get and the shareholders
get a copy of the proposal and being able to
understand what that actually means in terms of implications. There
are a lot of unanswered questions in a vacuum, which
then people start to get theories about what that may

(16:52):
have impact on. But I would have to say on
the current information, I would struggle to vote for it.
And I think that the sort of clean be Oh well,
the banks will step in and take it over, and
you know there might be anything left. Well, the reality
is somebody will buy it.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
That sounds like the Paris Agreement. The more information we learn,
then we can make a more informed decision.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
Right exactly and so looking venus to the board and
the process and two lad information is in the hands
as shareholders. I think it's just speculation what the final
outcome may look like. But on current information, I would
struggle to see what the advantage was as a sheholder reliance.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Good on you, Jeff Grant, always appreciate your time. Cheers
Jeff Grants and the political round up before the end
of the year of Ben Dooley who farms near Winton.
But next in studio, Taron Benton, thanks for joining us

(18:03):
on the muster on top of the world the song
by Imagined Dragons with blue sky and abundance, which is
certainly something you want as you head into the middle
list of tea. But now I'm joined in studio by
Taran Benton and her daughter Island. Now Tarran is involved
with the husband Mike. They're managing Jeff Farm, the Sally's
Army Farm out there at Kaoi Werra. Welcome Taren, thanks

(18:23):
for joining us.

Speaker 6 (18:24):
Thanks Andy, it's good to be here.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Island is in here as well. How are you either?
You helping mum today? That's your first time in a
radio studio? Yeah, yeah, what do you think of it?
A bit different? Yeah? Yeah, Tara. Now your journey to
Jeff Farm, it's a really good story. Like yourself and
your husband Michael, you've ended up there, but you've had
a varied farming experiences over the years.

Speaker 6 (18:48):
Yeah, we've moved around a bit.

Speaker 7 (18:51):
Yeah, I'm no stranger to picking up a house, but
it's been good to have a look around and learn
different styles of farming, different people, how different people operate,
and kind of apply some of those learnings back to
back to systems like you farm.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Now, you say you've looked at different systems of farming
as such, tell us a bit about what you guys
have been up to.

Speaker 7 (19:14):
Yeah, well, if I go right back, like Michael started
with a deery farming background in the far North, so
that betting it south is is varied. And I grew
up down here in South and was probably exposed to
sort of large scale farming. And then once we were married,
we actually before we were married, we were working for

(19:36):
Land Court both in the North and South Island, and
then moved to sort of the Waikaia area and Michael
was on Glen Lapper and I was on the Deer
Improvement l I see deer farm out at Belfa.

Speaker 6 (19:51):
And then once we were married.

Speaker 7 (19:53):
We started at Kettle Flat Station for Jefree Young for
about three or four years, so that sort of Southland
Hill count. From there we moved way up to Marlo
Station in the Arlitry Valley up in Blenham, so the
Marino Real high country, isolated style, and that was an
awesome experience. And from there, when it was time to

(20:16):
get the kids into school, we actually moved to Hunterville
in the Lower North Island and managed Oda Witty Station,
which is another cadet farm, taking on about eighteen cadets
for a one year course each year.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Eighteen yeah.

Speaker 7 (20:27):
Yeah, so it's different again but really cool community and
it probably just made us realize how much we enjoyed
that that training, the training of school leavers and giving
them a shot at farming, and it was quite a
rewarding and satisfying type role, a lot of fun too.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah, so was that the catalyst for you coming back
to Southmonton.

Speaker 7 (20:53):
No, we loved Odawitty and unfortunately things just didn't pan
out the end of I think, you know, more than
half the farm got plundered and pine trees and it
sort of just with a young family, we weren't sure
that it was for us anymore. We actually headed to
a marama after that. It's probably one of the only

(21:14):
Romney farms and a marama there and did that for
about three years. Another awesome rural community and lovely climate.

Speaker 6 (21:23):
Then when.

Speaker 7 (21:26):
John chadagectually, we heard that he was looking for a
two icee and I already had an affinity with Jeff
Farm from my dad was the headship of there years
ago when I was a preschooler, and you know, we
knew John Well, My family knew John Well, and we're
just said, old, let's let's go check that out because
that could be something we're interested in. And yeah, so

(21:49):
that's how we ended up at Jiff Farm. But we
started in like a May of twenty twenty two, I think,
and by July we're a screeching your heads going what
have we done, because we've gone from shifting break fences
in their gym show to just yeah, needing flippers. But
it's been it's been an experience and yeah, I think

(22:11):
we've done a lot of growing.

Speaker 6 (22:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Look, we talk about the cadets where you guys are
based there at Jeff Farm and certainly a different dynamic.
But what did you say, you're eighteen cadets under your
wing up there.

Speaker 7 (22:23):
Yeah, and it's in now that we've had the now
that we've been at Jeff Farm and having you know,
four or five kidets, I find it a much more
personal experience, like you really get to know them, sort
of become part of your family type thing, and get
to know their personalities, their strengths, their weaknesses, where you
can where they need more support, and you've got them

(22:45):
for two years versus one. So I think it's a
better model that works for us anyway. But in the
same breath, we just need more more places to take
on these school leaders who want to get into farm.
So without the bigger places like Odawady doing what they're doing,
it's pretty Yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Tough getting young people to come along to places like
Jiff Farmer doesn't seem to be a problem.

Speaker 6 (23:10):
No.

Speaker 7 (23:10):
So we've just had our open day on the start
of August there and we had more than thirty kidets
come and we were only looking to take two. Wow,
and we had over twenty applications, good solid applications. It
gets pretty hard to split them. So in the end,
we just selected our cadets last week for twenty twenty

(23:32):
six and we've taken three.

Speaker 6 (23:35):
We have room for three, so we.

Speaker 7 (23:38):
Just thought, this is what we're here to do, so
let's take as many as we can.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
So how do you get three people from a number
like that.

Speaker 7 (23:47):
It's probably the thing we disliked the most about the
job because it's those three phone calls you get to
make and say, hey, you've made it, you know, great,
But it's the twenty odd other phone calls you've got
to make and say sorry mate, and they go, well,
why you know, what could I have done better?

Speaker 6 (24:04):
And it's like nothing.

Speaker 7 (24:07):
So it comes down to age, but not just age.
You know, we prefer to take the seventeen eighteen year olds,
but age is just a number. So more maturity and
having their independence, so we want them to have their
restricted license.

Speaker 6 (24:23):
Ideally, and.

Speaker 7 (24:28):
We're there for people who wouldn't have a shot at
farming otherwise. So we probably look favorably upon people who
perhaps don't come from They might have a farming background,
but not from a farm of their own or from
parents who are sheep and beef farmers.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Do you ever get any cadets leave halfway through the
course or half way through the internship or such.

Speaker 7 (24:49):
Yeah, so we've just had in May a cadet who
was in her second year hand in her notice, which
it's a shame, but I think when people are this young,
they're still trying to figure out what's for them and
so they give it a go.

Speaker 6 (25:06):
But you get so far through the course.

Speaker 7 (25:08):
And I mean in this situation, she had a pre
existing back injury and we've got big sheep, and so
she found it. She did find it tough when it
come to things like the sharing course and things like that,
and it was a decision she made on her own
after some.

Speaker 6 (25:24):
Back surgery actually, So yeah, it's tough.

Speaker 7 (25:30):
And ideally that's not that we don't like them to
leave halfway through, but we also understand that you know,
when you're at that age, how many career chops and
changes have we all had when we were back at
the same age.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
So, so just about lambing season, you guys are all
ready for.

Speaker 7 (25:46):
It, I think so, I hope. So we're in it anyway.
The earlies, the earlieres have started well into it and
everything else is.

Speaker 6 (25:54):
Spread out over the farm ready to go.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
So Eiler, what do you like most about lambing.

Speaker 6 (26:00):
That you get to have pets?

Speaker 1 (26:02):
How many pet lambs do you get? I've only got
one now because I want to calf this year. You
want a calf? Wow? Calfs are pretty cool that way. Hey,
thanks for coming in guys. Great to catch up and
just learning about what you guys are doing out there
regarding the cadets ship and are like Tarran and Isla.
Thanks for coming in. Great to catch up. Thanks for

(26:24):
having us Andy Taran and Ela Benton. Great to have
them in studio as well. You talk about cadets and
about things that are going on in this world and
getting young people involved in the agriculture. Certainly one of
the stories I really enjoyed telling here on the must
Murray Cobra and is up next out of Mainland Minerals.

(26:57):
A way to catch up with Murray Cobra next out
of Minerals married. Good afternoon, Helse Saggs.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah, good end to yourself.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Blue Sky suddainly makes a change to the mood after
the last couple of days, which have been decidedly average.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Yeah, that's right. I thought the house is going to
bla off the foundations on the weekend.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
But I know we've got we've got some beautiful weather
following it, and let's.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Make the most of that. And does look like a
little bit more rougher weather on the weekend, sort of
later in this week, but fingers Cross doesn't come to much.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
And and had a Father's Day go for you.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Did you get some good prizzies?

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Yeah? I got a bucket of M and M's not
that I needed.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Them, it's good enough for the health regime.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Absolutely. My buddy's a temple marry. You know that. Now.
How's everything been with you guys at Mainland Minerals anyway,
I dar say, reasonably busy lately.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Oh you know, we're getting really busy now, yeah, start
of spring as we're talking about this unpredictable weather, but
we've got yeah, we've got a few bit of work
lined up ahead of us. And yeah, a lot of
people obviously the dairy side of a lot of in
rounds going out, kicking things off of that cold of
thought conditions nutrient with and what we do there with

(28:07):
the ignite end with the slow slow S and N
and also the quick sulfur and night gen as well,
and that with that ignite end as works very very well.
Get we get more sulfur nine in it as well
as the sulfate. So that's that works really well, quick
quick boost of those cold temperatures and longer term you
we're growing more grass too, So that's been a week cracker.

(28:30):
There's lots of there going out. We've also got a
lot of fine particle for the trucks, also a bit
of work building for the planes, and quite a bit
of the head of the helicopter. So so that's that's
looking pretty good. Yeah, but a lot of pressure on
feet at the moment, so we're always looking at how
we can kick kick those things on. So yeah, things

(28:51):
things to look at. We've got your cut and carry
areas if you're sheeting beef guys. Often that's been sort
of overlooked in the last year too, so you start
looking at those areas, start looking at your young grasses
less than two year old. Also for your for your
dairy guys as well, those those young areas really need
to boost those up. And then yeah, looking at what

(29:15):
sort of maintenance side of things and make sure you're
getting those salt tests. Don't just go the old blankets.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
You'll be a right chuck the super on.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Often it's in the other areas you might actually have
OKAP and you might need to really kick it on
in other areas that that are the biggest limiting nutrients.
So that's what we really specialize here at use the
right tool, whether it's the granular fire side of it
or the fine particle.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Well, there was still temperatures at the moment Murray pretty
much the late fives up into the early eightes. So
so fin that range that you'd expect for the time
of year. Suppose well that's right.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
And we might see that drop back a week, but
over the next next week, so getting these frosts. So yeah,
so if you're if you're putting any any nutrient nine
at the moment, you want to make sure that you're
boosting it up with with some of that more likes.
Ther mo side of things is what our equivalent is
the ignite in for the m O. But with the
benefit of having that SUL for ninety and that works

(30:08):
between that sort of five to seven degree soil temp
and ideally and rising, it's not the biggest issue. If
it does drop below that, the nutrients still there. You
just want to you just want to be very strategic
about how you use that when.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
You start getting these color temperatures I suppose, and your
covers slowly started disappear. Talking to some mates the other
day saying that September is more or let's just being
September like you normally expect, right, But you're trying to
plan your head for your covers heading later onto the season.
So what's a good approach to take.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Well, ideally you've got your sal test by now, so
it's going to it's going to depend on whether your
dairy or where your sheep and beef dairy side of things.
Make sure you're getting your soil tests so you're well
set up for your crops that are coming up. So
you want to do your planning on where your crop
paddic's going to be. Get your good sort tests and
those peedics so you know what nutriment needs going to

(31:02):
get the best yield for your crops. You also want
to look at your your maintenance side of things across
the across not just a lot of people I come
across in the dairy side of it, they're always looking
at the flint and nine ethline areas. That that makes
sense in quite a few farms, but there's a lot
of farms where you find flowin areas are actually some
peddics are low in potassium, typically the okay and phosphates.

(31:25):
Some can sun can be low as well are the
younger conversions. And then conversely on the on the nine
effluent side of things, you can actually find there's some
pretty good potassium levels out there, but there's also a
lot of low and very low potassium. So you want
to try to figure out what that that jigsaw the
farm up into those okay potassium low potassium are very

(31:45):
low potassum is typically in a dairy farm. How it looks,
it's better to try to understand that and then put
the right mixes on the right areas with your with
your sheep and beef, you look at those young grass areas,
look at your cut and carry areas, look at your
maintenance areas and get good soalt testsing you know the
right the right nutrient to go on there, tidy up
your crop areas and happy days.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Mariy For somebody that hasn't used fine particle application before,
what are the benefits.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Additional to what you're getting with your granular we're still
putting on the major nutrients. We're activating a lot of
the nutrient that's that's locked up in the soil andy
So we're using a biological activator which is the lime
flower and what we call the pasture pro which is
very active microbes, fungi, bacteria, and yeasts. And when we're

(32:35):
when we're putting that on, we're we're activating the organic
metadist that's full of nitrogen, full of phosphorus, full of
sulfur and trace minerals. So we're getting that getting that
nutrient so it's available again. The microbes can feed on
that nutrient, the plant can feed on nutrients, which means
the animal ends up feeding on the yield. The additional

(32:56):
yield and evenness of growth. We're also putting seed on
at the same time. It's a very good way. And
with the dairy side of things, if you've got your
dairy platform that you tend to go very slowly around
with renewing pasture. So what we do is we actually
put the with the maintenance firt We're putting the seed

(33:16):
on with white clover's, red clovers, plantain, and that's filling
in gaps and getting more new vigorous young grasses to
help renew those pastures as well as putting the nutrient
at the same time, and that just it's a game change.
It works really well. We use the grainular and the
fine part of together and figure out what is a
customized approach for your fertilize of your farm, and it

(33:37):
works very well. We've done it for guys fifteen years
that are continuing to lift their yields and they're dropping
their metabolic issues as well.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Marry. The best way to get in touch on Mainland minerals.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Well probably probably the simplest way as Mainland Minerals dot com.
Have a look at the contact details there or just
give us a call at three two eight three double
zero four at the office.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
And Gore Murray always appreciate your time.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Cheers, Andy, good talk man.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Murray Cobra and the main Lame minerals. You know the
slogan you're only as good as you do it. Let's
wrap up next we're going down to Winden, depending on
where you're based, and we're catching up with Ben Dooley,
Sheep Beef and YouTube farmer.

Speaker 7 (34:23):
The Musters on the Farm brought to you by a
Southland District Council working together for a better Southland.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Ben Dooley farms down near wind and a sheep beef
and YouTube farmer as well. He's got a YouTube channel
called Deep South Sheep and Beef and joins us this
afternoon Dolls after, good afternoon, how's the weekend and going?

Speaker 4 (34:48):
Yeah it was, it was all right, it could have
been a bit better. Where just got the old girls
living at the moment, old girls and some lighter ones
and stuff at motion times. So there's about three hundred
they Yeah, they were going pretty well today and night
was a bit rough but it didn't do a huge
amount of damage. Just a bit of work to do
the next morning. A few our girls that have got
a bit confused and got cast and started leading and

(35:09):
stupid stuff like that. And you've got one lamb Bo
the foi right now. His mother decided to drop him
in a creek, so he's still alive. He's doing well now,
but he wasn't very nice when I picked him up,
So yeah, just is what it is, one of those things.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
You're lucky this occurred when it did, not say in
another ten days time.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
Yeah, all the rest of them start on the twelfth. Well,
the triplets are just starting now with a typical fashion.
So yeah, we'll see what the weather does for the
rest of the month. Hopefully it's not a repeat of
last year, because I don't know how many of us
will handle another one of those. But yeah, if it does,
what changes we make moving forward, I don't know, but yeah, we.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Got to think happy thoughts. It hasn't happened yet. Every
day is going to be different.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
Right, absolutely absolutely. We've already had three inches of round
for the month here, so it's got a.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Balance out, right, You've had three inches for September so far.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Yeah, I'll including those last two or three days of August,
think it is since it's out of ratings. Yeah, yeah,
but to be fair, things are holding up pretty well.
I mean, it all happened after spreading out, so it's
not like we made a heap of mud anywhere, and
us are still looking pretty good around the place covers
are taking a bit of a hit, but they're still reasonable.
So yeah, yeah, we'll just look forward and cross their
fingers and hope it's good.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
How's the situation with bearings are you?

Speaker 4 (36:21):
We've actually been really low this year. Don't ask me why.
I have no idea. I think today we've had eight.
Normally we would expect between twenty five and one hundred.
Sort of wonder four percent, one hundred being absolute worst
case scenario, one percent being his case, and normally we've
had most of them by now. They could still be coming.
But yeah, they've been really low numbers so far, and ironically, normally,

(36:44):
when we have low numbers of bearings, we have really
no survivability with them. But actually this year we're sitting
at about sixty percent, so there's only been three away
from beerings so far, which is quite promising.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Well that's a positive.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, No, and udifs has been a bit lower.
Whether it's because we did them a bit, oh, I
shouldn't say harder this one. Do we hit them on
swedes for longer than we normally would, so whether that
plays a bit of a part into it. They didn't
get the huge amounts of grass in the gats or something.
I don't know, maybe they're not quite as fat still
in good note, but yeah, either way, it's working at
the stage.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Ben Winston Peters has been in the news once again
over the last couple of days. The New Zealand First
Conference occurred, ruling out working with Chris Hepkins. But by
the sounds of it, it means he wouldn't rule out working
with Flavor. But this brings in an interesting equation for
a lot of people, namely with Mark Petterson going around
doing all these Wolfsheared meetings around the future of Warwen
In all honesty, how do you think he go going

(37:39):
into people's walls sheds knowing that they are with a
left coalition?

Speaker 4 (37:44):
Yeah? I don't. I honestly don't know. I feel sorry
for the men because I quite like him, But I
think he's done a favorite of good work in there.
But yeah, goes back to the old thing. Winston ruled
out working with her darn back in twenty twenty three,
was it? Yeah, it was he rolled out working with her.
Obviously she didn't hang around for that election anyway. Thankfully

(38:07):
he didn't go with them at the time. But he's
done this before twenty seventeen is ingrained in my mind.
He didn't go with the right because of a personal grievance,
nothing else, nothing to do with the country, which I
think was absolutely just wrong. So yeah, he certainly won't
be getting my vote. You've got to give the guy's

(38:29):
credit for what they're doing at the moment. They're doing
some great work in there, They're saying some great things.
They're pushing some buttons that certainly need to be pushed.
But that twenty seventeen election is certainly stuck in the
back of my mind.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
But well, if these policies that New Zealand First are
coming out with all these thinking, especially around drilling and
the likes, you can't really see it aligning with labor.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
No, you can't. But like I said, I just just
look back to the things they were saying from twenty
seventeen to twenty twenty, and they're saying the opposite things now. So,
like I say, they do some good work, they do
some great things, but at the same time, they do
what they need to do to get into pairs. So
always very cautious of trusting them. But yeah, if if
the current Colissen carries on and let's be honest, if

(39:10):
you know, the next sellection around, if the right get
and it's not going to be a two party one
up the stage, it'll be a three And it is
working quite well at the moment. So yeah, it'd be
great to see it carry on. Like I say, yeah,
we just need some security that it's a right wing government.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Right back to the lambing beat dolls at that time
of year. What's the tip you've got for the lambing beat?
What's something you do to break things up while you're
out and about.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
Yeah, so we're sort of change things around a bit
here this year. I'm going to be doing most of
the leaving because we've got a few more carves around
and we're we're just going to see how it goes.
But we're planning to pull any any triple at you
that has three live lambs, we're just going to leave
you with two if we can. So it's going to
be a bit of hand rearing and stuff to do.
So yeah, my both of our errors will be expanded

(39:55):
a wee bit. But a few things I do. I've
got the old said pots just you know, headphones, whatever
you do can't be listening to a bit of music
on the way around. If it's really, really, really horrible
weather and it works, there's nothing wrong with stopping for
a coffee if you around can sort of fit where
you can wind up. You've got a three air round today,
cooling after two airs and have a coffee and go

(40:17):
backhead after that. But yeah, biggest, one of the biggest
things I find is just keeping on top of the deads,
keeping those picked up. If it is really nasty weather.
There's nothing more demoralizing than going out and seeing a
wold of stuff in the paddic and going, man, how
much of that's fresh? If you don't know, because often
it's it's not as bad as you think. But if
you don't, just especially the lambs, if you just keep

(40:37):
on top of that, just keeping picked up, keeping tidy,
and then when you go out around your paddocks, it
looks a lot better from the road, but it also
looks a lot better from your own mind's point of view,
and yeah, can make a big difference to things.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Is there a slinky trailer running this season?

Speaker 4 (40:54):
I'm not sure in a lot of the areas, but
yet we've got one here, so Mimmy hew I think
Marker Reader and glennam, I've got one going. They're going
up to the old Newton's victory just up the hill
behind us. So yeah, they they've got a few good
numbers out of us a couple of nights. But to
be fear, actually numbers of dead limbs are probably down
of it this year so so far. So yeah, they
seem to think they're going to be able to pay

(41:15):
us something, and regardless of whether they are or not,
just to keep the industry going. If you get nothing
for it, it's you might as we're give them to
them instead of putting them down the whole. But yep,
there's one gown.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Well not that long ago it was fifty cents per
sound lamb.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure in more recent times we might
have got a dollar Lamar Jesus. Still still not much,
but the argument it cost us nothing to put the
lambs up and it keeps them going. So yeah, if
they're making a buck ahead of it, we might as
well support them, hadn't.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
We absolutely deals. Hey, we'll leave it there, all the
best on the cold face. We'll catch up a gear.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
Mate, Good on you mate.

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