October 7, 2025 • 45 mins
Andy Muir talks to David Stevens, Sam Grant, Nathan Nelson, Jacob Duffy, Kathryn Wright and Warwick Howie.
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than ten point three. Town now nine point eight tillorowat
nine point six, Winton eight point six, at Woodlands at
eight point eight. David Stevens of Balfa dear Farmer starts
to muster off for your Wednesday, followed up by Sam
Grant of Craig's Investment Partners.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
An ocr announcement.
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Is due out at two o'clock this afternoon, so Sam
passes have been a comment around that. Nathan Nelson and
dear in z looking at feed on farm and just
looking at your rotations at the moment and just making
things work well. The feed is a little bit tight.
Jacob Duffy, black Caps bowler, of course, origins from Northern Southland.
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So we catch up with Jacob see how things are going.
He has been a bit going on since he spoke
to him. Last and lastly, Catherine Wright talking mental health.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
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Speaker 3 (02:25):
The stock sale report from Balclusa. I think Warick may
be back on the tools again as well. Concidentally, we'll
find out shortly they will start the yel with David Stevens.
This is the muster until two o'clock thanks to Peterson Elix.
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David Stevens is a deaf farmer base just out of
Balfa and joins us this afternoon on the muster his
requested track as for normal ac DC.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Good afternoon, David. How are you.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Good after soon?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
How's everything up there at Belfer? Are you drying out
at all? Is that a thing at the moment?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Today is a nice wind. That's a nice day today.
Pleasn't change. But yeah, it's typical springtime. I suppose yes.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Would you have noticed much different to your rainfall Tealley
compared to say this time last.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Year, Well, they tell me, and I haven't been following it,
but they tell me we've had much the same. So
I think we've probably missed out in a wee bit here.
I know, coming down from Central the other day, certainly
up the top end of the province there was a
lot of rain up there and the rivers were out,
so obviously they've had a lot more than what we've had.
But overall we've had air fha too.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Like everybody from a deer farmer's perspective, how thing's been.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yeah, Philly quiet, I mean a lot of them. I
mean I haven't got next day staggs now, so a
lot of them will be into your just starting into
cutting velvet on the next day staggs. Obviously the younger
ones are later on, but that'll be happening probably just
keeping the hinds sort of in winter mode almost you
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normally do through to probably later this month. The first
of the fauns start dropping in early November, so yeah,
it's one beauty of with deer farming. If you've got
hinds about the cave, you can actually sort of tighten
things up for them or just keep them on winter
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mode on the way through and then shut up winter
feed and hit it off at a reasonable time. Sort
of do that early November. So mind you that it
might be a wee bit later this year because of
just the season. Things have been a bit cold, so
it might be a bit quieter, but no, no, they'll
be intervelping a bit different down here, were quite a
bit later than up north. They'll be well and truly
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getting through their mixed staggs now in the North Island
and they'll be looking around and just wondering who's going
to buy it.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
So traditionally Warren Ross touched on this the other week
as well. This is pretty much the quiet time of year,
is that right?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Yes? Yes, I know. It always worked well and kids
had sports tournaments. I was one of the few dads
that could go along to co Away on trips and
that so most of the others were either landing or carving.
So no, no, it's one of the quieter times a year.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
The price of venison too.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Good news around the schedule, Like I remember talking to
you a wee while ago now and ten dollars seem
to be the dream that you wanted for a price.
But it seems as though that you've gone past that
with the schedule.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Yes, yeah, mind with costs. We're looking at a schedule
for the red venison around about well just over the
eleven dollars eleven dollars twenty for a couple of months
October November and then it drops away. Awey bit but
the ELK schedule I think from what I understand, it
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goes right through it about eleven dollars right through into
the autumn. So it's certainly a good price, but no
andy with the costs on farm now, you'd have to
be up around that eleven dollars to justify the costings
on farm now. So I don't know, it's looking good.
It's probably a good thing because the velvet is sort
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of the roomors out there about prices at the moment
and read velvet, particularly non traditional is pretty hard to sell.
I understand everything shifted last year, but just talking to
process not processes buyers this year, they've got the orders.
But non traditional is just that much harder to sell,
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and it's a harder product to actually process.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
You know.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
The traditional is far easier to process. It's not as
for those that don't know what I'm talking about. Let's
see the bigger heads that are. You know, Philly Raff
had a lot more times on in some cases blowing
out at the type of big bulb, whereas the traditional
cleaner velvet with three times and doesn't blow out at
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the top of the big top on it and cut
at the right time. So that's going to be a
wee bit of a challenge this year. So I think
the Wells at the stage sitting on their hands. There's
no prices out for a red velvet for Elk, yes,
the big stuff. This price is out for that at
around one hundred and thirty from what I understand, So
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you know, it looks as though it's going to continue
on from last year. At price is much the same
as what they were getting last year, so they'll be
happy with that.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Just go back to the Venison, she'd do. As as
the high as you've seen.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
It, yes, yes, yeah, no, I got way back. It
got closer way back in about two thousand and one two,
but unfortunately that sort of blew the market out. I mean,
it was a situation where there was a short shortage
of supply of game product going into some of the countries,
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particularly Germany, excuse me, and it pushed the price up.
But what we saw out of that was a real
drop away after that, I think had dropped right back
to about three eighty and a number of that sort
of took a number of deer farmers out of or
they left the industry actually and did something else. So
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I can't see that happening this time. I think worldwide
proteins in demand and it seems pretty secure, So you know,
we've just got to be aware of that. That's something
that we don't want to happen in game.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
As far as the velvet market, obviously the majority or
does it goes over to China and South Korea? What
are the market signals showing us from there, David.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Well, there's quite a bit of product in the pipeline.
So in Korea we've got a situation where that further
process product that goes into health products. That market at
the moment is probably I wouldn't say stagnant, but it
slowed right down. That volume has reached its sort of
peak at the stage it will grow, but it's not
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going to grow fast from what I understand, as it
has in the past. So that slowed things down. So
you're in a situation where what we really need is
trying to go down the same track, and if that happens,
we certainly get rid of the product. There's no problem
with that, and I think that's starting to happen, but
it's just slower. It's going to happen slowly. It's not
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going to happen at the pace that in Korea over
the last few years. So I think what dear farmers
need to look at is to consider just what they're
with their herds. I mean, they're in a situation where
that roffer velvet is not going to sell that to
be well, and they really need to look at their herds.
And I know, so have the cold out there mixed
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ay stacks, certainly the ones that had a rougher head.
So they need to do that, and there's a good
schedule for it. Some have done it back after post rut,
and some are obviously doing a bit of that prior
to velvet growing again for a season. So certainly I
would if I was in their position, I would certainly
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get rid of a lot of a mixed ay stacks.
I'd probably then look at the possibility of purchasing some
commercial hinds and the possibility of actually putting an out
of ball over them and getting some elk genetics into
their progeny. And certainly that schedule for elk venison going
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into the States is good and it's an opportunity there
where Also, I think the industry's probably gone a wee
bit far to the velvet. It's all very well for
me to say that, because I've done particularly well out
of selling velvet stacks and sires. But over the years
it's just grown considerably that value. And what they need
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to do is, I think grow the hind heard again
and get it into the Venison schedule. There's a number
of farmers out there, farmers out there that got rid
of their hinds. I think that now is the opportunity
to actually get rid of some of those old stags.
And certainly the schedule's got Andy. I mean you're looking
at even now seven twenty. You know, you hang a
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big stag up that's you know, one hundred and forty k.
You know, you're getting a pretty good return. They certainly
would cover the cost of an in car behind, you know,
coming on to the property. It's worth thinking about. Put
it that way.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Good to say positives in the industry. David, always appreciate
your time on the Master.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
No problem, Andy, thanks for the opportunity.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
David Stevens, deaf farmer there at neither Day, just out
of Belfay, listening to the muster. Next just along from
Hokkinu Ehq. We're going to catch up with Sam Grant
from Craig's Investment Partners.
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Speaker 3 (12:27):
Sam Grant and Cragg's Investment Partners joins us once again
on this beautiful afternoon down here in the Deep South.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
La is Sam good things? Andy appreciate having me on.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
We'll start with this the Global Dairy Trade Auction result overnight.
Another drop in the GDD price in decks of one
point six percent. Those key figures there, just quickly running
through the figures and hydrous milk fat up one point two,
butter down three, butter milk powder up two point three,
Cheeda back up sorry point eight, no lactose mozzarella down
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eleven point eight, skim milk powder back zero point five,
and whole milk old of the key one they're back
two point three percent. So that's four drops in a
row for the GDT.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah, absolutely, and I think that make it's got eight
in the last ten options I think have now dropped
since things peaked in May. So over over all the
total duty auction is down about what's that about twelve
point four percent since it's highs and May, so yeah,
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quite a big pullback from what we're technically record highed.
But I think sort of consensus out there now is
we probably can't absorb too many more decreases in the
GDT before you have to start moving that milk price.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Well, a ten dollars milk price at the moment midpoint range.
It's the thing of beauty. But like you say, it's
all about now as far as what happens regarding the
milk price as to where we're going.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
To be, right, absolutely, absolutely, yeah, And you know there's
been sort of two big drops over that sort of
period since May and July and September. Yes, hopefully getting
out the rest of the year movement that volatility and
that price isn't two major would be quite nice as
we sort of hidden into the season.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So I good time to be a dairy farm of
a cheepers.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yeah, absolutely, you know, obviously strong season capital turn coming
back to farmers as well. Yeah, you know, it's sort
of really driving the gel on the comedye at the moment.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Isn't it coming in on the next hour or so?
Sam As the Reserve Bank's ocer decision, the big question
is they going to go zero point two five or
zero point five remembering we need to stimulate the growth
after the last quarter result.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, absolutely, so that want to take their mind back
obtually I peaked at five and a half percent and
we're now sitting at three. So for expectation that we're
going to see at zero point two five percent cut,
But the real question is, you know, are we going
to see them move it to half a percent which
would take us to two and a half percent effectively
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the end of last week sort of the market chance
to sort of thinking about thirty percent chance of a
half a percent move. But I think one of the
key things for me was, you know, three of the
major banks we expect ASB and Qriybank were calling for
the bigger half a percent cut. I think there's quite
a bit of noise out there around you know, the
market really needs that sort of half a percent to
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sort of cut things along, and we're now sort of
seeing the ocr potentially bottoming and out at two point
twenty five percent at the moment. So if we get
this half a percent cut with I need that call
of a percent from the bottom, so which would obviously
put quite a relief food for mortgages and households.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Again, well that was going to be my next question.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
What would this mean for mum and dad as far
as households and regarding mortgages.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, so half of percent so OCI doesn't drive through
your longer term rates as much it as that shorter
term stuff. So if you are floating, you'd definitely see
the cut flow through almost immediately on those longer term rates.
It's a few more sort of economic factors, but you
would see a degree movement now anyway, but you'd sort
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of start to see things sort of head down to
the low fours you'd expect.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Does it look as though the OCR in general those
going in the right direction?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, the main reason we cut
the OCR is to get the economy going, make it
more attractive for people to spend, make it more attractive
for businesses to spend and to invest in. You know,
when people spending this money sort of spurs on economic growth,
which is what we need as a nation. Obviously, down
this way, it's things a lot more positive. But you know,
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if you do talk to anybody in the major centers,
particularly Wellington and Auckland, you know it is quite stark
how dire things are there comparatively to the regions. At
the moment.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
The nz X is on a wedding streak as well.
We talk about the Orbeck's doing well at eden Park.
Well it's very similar with the ZX surging three point
one percent last week, which is the strongest weekly gain
and over a year.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
So more positives yet.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Again, yeah, yeah, So the New Zealand market is very
interest rate sensitive, so any talk around interest rates being cut,
we do see good movements in the New Zealand's stock exchange.
So prior to twenty twenty, the New Zealand market was
one of the strongest round the world. Been a bit
of a lag yard it's about the last five years,
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but yes, about about thirteen and a half percent since
the end of April, which was sort of a bit
of a low in the market with all that sort
of tear off talk, and then for the year was
sort of setting up with three three point two percent,
so finally starting to get a little bit of attraction
in the New Zealand share market, which is nice to
see because, yeah, where all the growth has been over
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the last sort of few years has all been overseas,
So nice to see the local market starting to trend
in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yeah, all this tariff talk, we're not really going to
see a flow on effect until later on in the year,
is that correct?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah, yeah, so there's still a fair bit of stuff
to flow through through the US effectively. Yeah. You know,
sometimes you don't have a full picture where you land
until it's for a couple of months down the line
as well. So I think the one thing you tend
to know with this current administration of the US is
sometimes a bit more noise than the redction sometimes.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
So are we seeing a rebound of the New Zealand
dollar given it's dropped quite a bit over the against
the major currencies recently.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Away but not but not much or well below sort
of long term averages effectively at the moment, So you
still have a much weaker dollar than what we traditionally
would Sam.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
If somebody's to get in touch with the team, what's
the team at Craig's Investment Partners, the best way Yeah,
either gives to go.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
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whether U said one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Main tret In good only say I'm always appreciate.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Your time, awesome things, and welcome back to the muster.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Nathan Nelson out of Darry and Z joins us once again.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Nathan, how are you good?
Speaker 7 (19:14):
A Andy, Good to be with you as always.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah, good to catch up. Look, we're going to talk
about this straight off the cuff. Is the way that
the weather has changed. We spoke to you I think
about six weeks ago, and you were cautiously optimistic about
the spring that was ahead, and you seem to be
correct in that thinking.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
Yeah, I think we talked about back then how things
were shaping up off the back of a reasonably kind
sort of July and even August, and I dare say
things have sort of changed with the weather, that's for sure.
And yep, the last probably four even five weeks have
certainly been certainly been a battle.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
And yeah, I guess there's.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
Quite a range across the province. But yeah, the theme
would be just that challenge of back to that challenge
of feed utilization and farmers onto their second round. Most
of the herd carved down now and quite a bit
of feed demand on the herd, and just probably just
battling the elements would be the fairest way of saying it.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
So that's the thing to think about at the moment now,
feed strategies until we get some growth.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Yeah, I think it's fairly universal you and I just
chatting off here. Obviously a discussion group yesterday just north
of Gore, and the farmers that we had there were
you know, sort of fairly widespread across the province, and yeah,
there was definitely a sense of like right on top
of feed and or probably just you know, like not
a lot of feed cover in front of them, and
probably that challenge of what feed maybe is in that
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second round is actually the utilization of it without wrecking
paddocks or you know, like just making a lot of damage.
So yeah, I think probably just worthwhile touching on some
of those strategies and just things to think about. Probably
caveated by the fact that everyone's farm and system and
options are a bit different, but yeah, hopefully just will
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roll through a few strategies and something in there will
resonate for our listeners.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
So that seems to be general consensus.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Feed levels just well behind where we need them to
be given we so far through carving.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
Yeah, I think like most people would be growing probably
like below demand to be a fair comic to say
average pasture covers are quite variable, but I think, yeah,
general consensus that that feeder is definitely tight and probably yeah,
just whether you've been able to get to get some
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nitrogen fertilizer on or certainly the helicopter guys have been
busy again, you know, trying to flight on where they
can or where there's a gap to be able to
get it on. There's one option to try and boost
that sort of feed supply option. I guess the other
strategy that we'd sort of encouraging there. I say that
we probably learned a lot of lessons from last season
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in the spring that we were out just as far
as you know, if you've got that option of insured feeding,
then certainly that's the most favored options, certainly at this
milk price that's on offer at the moment, to probably
just put feed in that regard because that's your best
return on your investment and obviously you know, your highest
return on feed utilization and trying to keep cows you
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know a little bit full or content before they head
back out to the paddocks. So it'll be the first
first one to sort of really look at what's possible
in shed feeding. Then if you've got options to you know,
have some feed in some trailers, either the palm kernel
or palm kernel dt G mix, either at the exit
race or on a hard surface somewhere, just you know,
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another option to get some feed into them, or bale
of bailas or fiber or something, just so they're going
back when they do go back to those paddocks, there's
a little bit of energy in the system and a
little bit of gut fill before they actually head back
out onto the paddocks. I think the other side of
it again, every farm is different. But clearly if you've
got like standoff facilities or ability is seeing cows ofspishing
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the worst of those whether it's then yeah, definitely utilize that.
If you haven't, it's probably planned b a is Yeah,
pick one of those paddocks that can become a bit
of a standoff paddock, and you try and probably contain
or minimize you know, that pasture damage or making mother
as much as possible. Obviously acknowledge that all these shretities
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you know, are quite time consuming, and you know, people
at the end of carving, so there's probably a fair
bit of fatigue around the place as well, and just
that mental fatigue I think of, you know, sort of
been back to where we were almost this time last
spring and how much of a challenge that was. So
definitely encourage just that conversation of chicken in with your
team as well, and let's have some probably some reasoningly
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honest conversations about you know, where energy levels are at
and how people are actually yeah, like managing or coping
given that. Yeah, for the time you get the into carving,
you're reasonably sort of tied and where anyway, and then
you've got the challenge of dealing with the weather and
trying to keep cows fit and content. So yeah, definitely
checking with your teams would sugges on that front. And
if you're the farm decision maker or manager or shermocher
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her owner, I think, yeah, it's probably that sense of
picking up the phone and having a check to some
of those neighbors that you trust, or just get a
sick in opinion or chew the fat and yeah, sort
of share a bit of that mental load, and then
would probably suggest, yeah, like if you're working with a
farm consultant, worthwhile just the second opinion, run some ideas
past them, or whether it's not your consultant, it might
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be your VET or their en Z team certainly always
there as your area manager to just be a sounding
board or a bount some of those ideas about so what.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
A supplement level was like in general, Nathan, given.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
We had a kind winter, Yeah, I think like the
rallies probably, as we said earlier, if you've got that
in shed feed, then that's your first priority, just mainly
because of the utilization effect. Sounds like from you know,
discussions and regional intel, there is you know, like good
good sort of supplies of silage and bailage on farms,
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but inless you're feeding that on concrete or maybe a
lane or yeah, like that probably is going to be
potentially a bit more variable energy and or just the
utilization of that. But the reality is for those that
probably the covers are a bit lower on farm or
growth rates aren't there, that's just going to have to
be a needs must, And to be fair, you probably
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need a little bit of fiber or effective fiber going
into the diet anyway. So yeah, I think that is
probably reasonably favor off the autumn that we had last year,
and subtlements as far as sologs and vlages go, able
to be restopped.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
But yeah, I think.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
It's just a matter of pulling on all the levers
you've got just to get through this tight patch. And
I suppose in the back of farmers minds they're thinking,
you know, we sort of threw four weeks out from
plan started mating as well, so certainly want to be
sort of offering at least what intacts we can to
keep couse hitting in the right direction. Possibly another strategy
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if you've got the option to do that, or the
herd side allows, probably a good idea just splitting those
mobs on maybe body condition score, like younger animals, and
if you've got to run two different mobs, just mobbing
them up just to sort of help prioritize that condition
and keep young stock heading in there, or not young stock,
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but younger animals heading in the right direction to just
reducing the competition with some of those neckstage cows.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, good words, especially given the way the feed situations
tightened up at the moment.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Nathan always appreciate your time.
Speaker 7 (26:30):
Thanks Andy, good to chat.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Nathan Nelson of Derry and z I got rid of
Daniel Beddingfield and put his sister on instead. A lot
more Perichia and that's what we want. On a Wednesday
right before the end of the year. Are Catherine Wright
talking Mental Health Awareness Week? But up next black Cat
Jacob Duffy, Well, back to the muster on haker Nuie.
(27:01):
Jacob Duffy, black Caps bowler. Of course, his origins were
from Lumsden and Northern South and we spoke to him
a wee while ago now and he's just about to
go over to the UK and to do a Stinton
County cricket. But since then I think it's fear as say,
it has been quite a bit going on in his
cricketing landscape. Jacob joins us this afternoon to give us
a bit of a rundown about it all. Jacob, Welcome
to the muster once again.
Speaker 8 (27:23):
We don't know where's mate takes of me.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah, last time we spoke to you, it was on
the eve of departing over of going over to the
UK to be part of the County Championship for Worcestership.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I think I've pronounced that correctly.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
When it's Worcester, Worcestershire, Worcestershire, it's one of the other,
isn't it.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
Yeah, you're doing better than me. Yeah, Yeah, that's a
cool trip. Obviously, sign up for w to do sort
of a three months st playing a mixture of four
day cricket and twenty twenty crickets, but a long stint
to ours, three months of full on you know, their
schedule of there's crazy, so you're sort of playing four
or five days out a week, so that was pretty
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full on and then they're from there. We're lucky. We
went to Zimbabwe on the Black kIPS tour and we
had a successful twenty twenty series and then followed by
obviously a Test day boo as well, which is cool.
And then we've got a very very last minute arter
to go join up in one hundred as an injury replacement,
so back to the UK we went, and then yeah,
come September, I managed to miss all the winter and
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get home for a sunny spring.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yeah yeah, and Verdi commas on that one, mate, But
like we talk about going over and we you know,
last time we spoke about County cricket. Arguably it could
be considered a grind playing cricket five days a week.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
How did you find it?
Speaker 8 (28:37):
Yeah, grind's a good way to put it. But yeah,
the schedule, this is a hot topic over there. They
play fourteen first class games, which is a lot, says
fourteen four hours. We play eight over here, So they
are playing, you know, sort of Monday to Thursday every week,
with you know a lot of bus travel and things
like that.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Luckily, we'll still quite a.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
Bowling friendly sort of place, so we acceed some shortened
games in terms of like you know, we're sort of
three D fixes sometimes just because yes, that couldn't survive
the four days. But it was a grind, mate, But
it was awesome, awesome experience. It's something I've always sort
of looked at from a distance and watched. So to
get over there and see what it's like from the
south and you know, put myself through the grind was
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a you know, it was a good challenge.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
And you compare it to what we see over here
in New Zealand with the planket shield and the likes.
From your perspective, what's the biggest difference apart from playing time.
Speaker 8 (29:34):
Yeah, it's a lot of people ask you that it's
what's the quality light? Is it better as it worse?
It's so hard to say because conditions are so different.
So well, for one, they use a different ball, so
they use a juke ball, which helps the bowlers moths,
it does more, it swings more. But their pictures are
so slow and pract to be honestly, you know, they're
like low slow. They suit sort of medium pace less
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slow bowling guys who are just running and there's a
skill and you know they're deadly accurate at what they do.
But for a guy, let me, I come over with
a little bit extra pace, that sort of worked against
you over there. You know, guys could use that pace
for as the slab older as they couldn't really hit
the ball for the line. So it was a challenge
in itself. It was a good challenge for me because
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obviously got We've got a Test series over the next year,
so it's sort of good prep for that. But yes,
it's just very very different. So yeah, it's almost hard
to explain any.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Now you bring up an interesting situation. They're regarding the ball.
The juke ball very much notorious over in the UK,
the croco barre ball generally used around the rest of
the world. Is there there big a difference between the
use of the cracker ball?
Speaker 7 (30:44):
It is?
Speaker 4 (30:45):
It is.
Speaker 8 (30:45):
Yeah, the juke ball sort of laugh before eighty overs.
You can still have a swing and ball come the
steving us over, whereas the croco baro ball sort of
dies maybe at best after thirty forty overs. So it
depends on where you look at it. I guess, you know,
guys have to be a bit more creative in terms
of how you're getting guys out. That's why we see
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a lot of bounce of plans over here and guys like,
now we're going to have made that popular. But they
trial the cocobar of this. They play four of their
fourteen rounds with cocobarra balls, and you just see the
scores skyrocket. You know that you're getting silly games like
one thing gets six hundred, the next team gets seven
hundred and they shake hands. So yeah, there is a
(31:26):
bit of a difference. And yeah, I'm not sure what
the right answer is. I think the corcobar works well
in New Yellen and the dupi will works well in England,
So maybe it is that's just how it should be now.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Test Stavo occurred a couple of months back. Now Jacob
in Zimbabwe, just explain what that meant to you and
actually have the silver thrown one and the longer format
of the game.
Speaker 8 (31:47):
Yeah, it was, yeah, very special. You know, I'm not
I'm not a spring chicken anymore. I turned thirty one
just around that time, so and there's been a lot
of times where I thought that sort of test tabu
might never come. So I guess to finally get that
ID and finally get that to get the baggy Black
Cat was it was very special. And yeah, I guess
(32:08):
at times like that you sort of reflect on, you know,
how you got there, all the people that took to
get you there, and yeah, that's certainly what the hell
of a lot of people that were that did get
me there, especially for the southern folks, my family, all
the coaches growing up and then supportive life now. So
it was a very cool reflecting time over as a babe.
(32:30):
The shame wasn't in New Zealand. I could have done
it in front of Myndew zeal you know, friends and family.
But yes, that's one thing you're never to take off
me as my black.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Cat being in camp with the Test team.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Is there any difference to say, the short form format
when you're all together or it's pretty much the same
as just a different format.
Speaker 8 (32:49):
That's good question. Nah, very much the same. Everyone's pretty
relaxed in both sort of camps. There's a lot of
crossover in terms of players and stuff. But yeah, no,
I would't say it's a huge difference. I have been
in and around the Test team a lot in the
last four years. I just haven't played much, to be honest,
so I've sat there and carried a lot of drinks.
But still some of my best croocketing memories have come
(33:12):
in the Test are in it, you know, Like I
was there for the build up of the World Test
Championship final. I was there in India for the three
Nils serious sweep ahead of them over there, and some
of those are some of the best touring times in
my life. So it is a very very cool and
like you said, it's very rewarding when you do you do,
you know, pour cool things off. And yes, they still
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wouldn't very specially part of that group.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
But at the same time, playing at the Mount over
the weekend Bowlington Mitchell marsh. You still must have pinch
yourself to see yourself in those situations.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
Right, Yeah, yeah, you do. You know, growing up you
watch the Chapel Headley and his elm versus Ossie was
always the big ones. There's the one I got excited
for as a kid. You know, see Brenda McCullum sort
of Scoop Ramp and Sean take for in the early
days and things like that. You know, they were sort
of the memo of one. So YEAHS came up against
(34:02):
the big brother was pretty cool. We probably didn't put
our best product out there. But they're playing a team
man s. They're playing a grist of brand and cricket
and I think they've won in about twenty five of
our thirty twenty twenties, so you know they're they're the
informed team going into a sort of a World Cup
year next year. So awesome prep for the start of
the summer.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Certainly from a from a fans' perspective, Jacob playing Australia
straight away, it gives you anxiety and sends you to
a shrink because you know how it's been over the years.
But when you're on there, torena yourself as such, what
do you do do You just have to get mind
over matter and just focus on what you're doing. Given
it is a much daunted betting betting team you're facing.
Speaker 8 (34:45):
There is a lot by that to us, mate, they're
all massive.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Big blokes.
Speaker 8 (34:48):
They're a lot bigger than that we have, like physically,
they're brand of cricket they're playing right now. I see
they've just brought into this not given a crap bylocks
of it. You know, they go out and they're swing
hard and and it's yeah, it looks were freeing when
to play their cricket. So there is a little bit
that I think we come out in that first game
and quickly as a bowling in it, we sort of yeah,
(35:11):
we're a little bit on the deck foot there. I
thought the way we come out there that last game
almost defended sort of a lowest total apart from a
good match my century. I thought we, yeah, we were
better off for that first one, that first head out
and yeah, shame of the run out in the middle
because I would have loved another got them and.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Just finally England's next on the shed. You're not too
far away. What do you do in between and between
the weeks before preparation mself as such.
Speaker 8 (35:40):
Yep, so it's just the mirror go around continues. You know,
they're here sort of next week. So I've got the
week spinning mostly a Tiger Bolts this week, just training
and begging along with their prison preseason stuff, so taking
over the bowling and sort of using it as a
bit of a catch up on or sort of my
strength and conditioning to and the lifting of my running,
so heavy training week and then we got to cross.
(36:02):
It's on the Monday, so yeah, that's the play.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Hey, good on, you're Jacob. Thanks very much for your
time on the Muster. We're enjoying watching your work down
here in the Deep South and we'll continue to do so.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Always appreciate your time. We'll catch up again.
Speaker 8 (36:16):
Hellower's mate Blady guys, thanks having me this.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Jacob Duffy black Cat cricketer doing a sterling job as well.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
England series coming up.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Before we wrap up, Catherine Wright, we're talking mental health
Awareness week.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Feel that rain on yours. No one else can feel it, file.
Speaker 7 (36:39):
No one else, no one else can speak the words on.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Your Katherine Wright joins us this afternoon on the Muster.
Of course, she's a counselor based on the Fieldland basin,
as well as doing a thesis regarding real mental health. Catherine,
welcome once again we catch you this afternoon, just on
your way back from Auckland. You been speaking. Firstly, we've
got blue sky, it's warmer, it's windy in the south,
(37:04):
but it certainly is a change to the mood.
Speaker 9 (37:08):
Absolutely, thanks Andy. Yeah, and I checked the weather forecast
is today and actually, very interestingly the weather forecast is
warmer down south and it is for here at Auckland.
So looking forward to coming home.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
It'll be the first time in about five years because
it's been bloody cold down here.
Speaker 9 (37:24):
Absolutely, yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
So it is Mental Health Awareness Week, Catherine, from your lens,
what's something you need to focus on when you're getting
into October on a farming on a farming instance.
Speaker 9 (37:36):
Okay, a few things. So I'm actually up here. I've
been at a conference speaking about rural mental health too,
mental health professionals, and the theme that's kind of come
through and also happens to be the theme of mental
health Awareness this week is actually connection and community. We
talk about individual mental health interventions, which are great too,
(38:00):
but then if you can just take a step back
and look at a community, and look at your rural
community and think about how could you either make that
better or how could you get involved. So community interventions
are things like stepping for farmers. It's like your rugby team,
it's like your pay group. It's any kind of group
that happens in a rural community that you can get involved.
(38:22):
And with the longer days, now is the time to
get out and try to test something out, test a
different group. Don't write it off if it's not something
that you think that you wouldn't be interested in straightaway.
I also want to acknowledge that everybody's coming to the
end of four or five months of feeding out and
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that there is stress, and there probably has been loneliness
and isolation. I would urge you to not let that
stop you from getting out and connecting because we need
it is it's a visceral need. It's like hunger or
first if we feel lonely, we need to reach out
to people. It's the way that we're Would.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
You say the overall state of mental health is improving,
It's a really good question.
Speaker 9 (39:07):
I think that a lot of mental health issues are
becoming more visible. So awareness is growing, which is great.
But with awareness comes a real or perceived view that
it is becoming more common. I'm not so sure that
it is. I just think that it was hidden a
little better. We didn't have the internet to or social
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media to see these problems all the time. People are
feeling safer to be able to speak out and say so.
Therefore it's becoming more visible. I'm not sure that it
is increasing. In fact, I've seen some statistics in certain
mental health challenges that are actually getting.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Better because there used to be a real stigma around
not feeling okay in a mental capacity.
Speaker 8 (39:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (39:50):
Yes, and I do believe that there still is that stigma.
In my research, it's one of the clear barriers to
health seeking. Fortunately, it's the hardest one to address. What
I have found in my work and in my research
is that these stories of help seeking, of normalizing mental
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health help seeking behavior, they must come from peence a pre.
They must be positive stories told on the ground in
rural communities that go from people to people. It cannot
be people speaking down to rural people telling them what's
what they need to do and what needs to happen.
It needs to come peence a pre and Often when
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people get to a place of finally opening up, talking
to their mate, talking to someone they work with, quite
often the reception is something like I've been there.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Too, So, like you talked about before, we're coming towards
the end of the winter slash, landing, carving, grind. What's
your message to people regarding getting off remembering that there's always.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Work to do.
Speaker 9 (40:56):
There is always work to do, and I don't think
that it will ever end. It's a little bit like
sweeping the path before it's stopped snowing, or we've all
seen that meme of the guy trying to push the
ocean back into the ocean with the broom. But to
be sustainable as an ongoing occupation for you, even if
you feel stressed, even if you feel like you've got
(41:18):
no energy, The way that you will regain energy and
gain some feeling of autonomy over your own life is
to actually make that first step. Take take it along
with you, take your stress with you, take your exhaustion,
your fear of perhaps seeing other people. You can do
these things even when you feel that way.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
You went from tier now all the way up to Auckland. Now.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Auckland's a big city, especially in the context of a
country like New Zealand. Do you just notice that when
you're walking down the street about just attitudes on people
being different, especially in a mental sense, that makes sense.
Speaker 9 (41:54):
It's really funny that you should say that end, because
I hadn't. This is that conversation with a group of
people yesterday. There's something about the way that we are
as real people that's difficult to put your finger on,
that is automatically visible if you see another real person.
And that's exactly what happened to me yesterday. I don't
know if it's the body language or the way that
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they interact. Maybe it's our personal space. We all know,
and it's true we do have a bigger personal space circle.
I certainly find here that people don't kind of look
at you. There's a lot of people. Everybody's busy going
about their lives. It's like everybody's in an insular bubble.
Just I'm actually watching from the sixteenth floor right now,
(42:40):
I'm stand onto the footpath and I can see it
right now. Nobody looks at each other, no one interacts.
It's quite interesting.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
So nobody's wearing in their text of moleskins or our rems.
Speaker 9 (42:51):
I saw one yesterday and that's how I knew he
was a shaman. Besha.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Well, that's the thing, isn't it. And the thing about
being rural though with a lot of people, If you're
any more relaxed, you'd fall over right.
Speaker 10 (43:02):
Oh absolutely, And I think it's really easy to forget
these phenomenal parties that we have as for real people.
Yes there are issues, Yes we have problems. Yes there
are things that are difficult to solve. But actually, what
if it's.
Speaker 9 (43:18):
Our humanity and our sense of connection that sets us
apart from the rest of the population. That is something
that we can truly be grateful for and just be
in that. If that makes sense, I love it.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Catherine Wright. Always appreciate your time on the muster. Great
messaging is per usual, No problem, thanks.
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Speaker 2 (44:14):
Hey, well all actually go there?
Speaker 4 (44:16):
And what are he going again for?
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Stop selling?
Speaker 3 (44:18):
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us a rundown on prices. How do we go work?
Speaker 11 (44:28):
Yeah, so we're welcome listeners from a very funny ed
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Speaker 3 (44:33):
Hey.
Speaker 11 (44:34):
Yeah, he look at ports, kept rocking on. We heading
other good yarding of the lamb. I looked at prices,
rocked on again. Let's not being to those layers today
anywhere between two hundred and fifty hef over three hundred
dollars three and three hundred and twenty dollars for the
real monsters. And we got to get some really good laying.
I had a good medium layers today anywhere again getting
from one hundred and eighty to two hundred and fifty dollars,
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and not of the years we get us at the
moment at Matton Market's rocking along and of course a
lot of wiks. You're going is coming here and let
money there anywhere sort of from there the sort of
one sixty sixty right food and the sort of two
twenties after some sort of some real leptote stumpers there
one or two if we lost the years and make
it over a hundred of dollars, but that marks me
very strong. The last still three weeks good medium views.
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They're making that fort one hundred and twenty to one
hundred and sixty one hundred and sixty dollars, and the
lightning were sort of a swing sort of eighty five
that a hundred seen depending on what they are. I
will ever know. The kettle sell here a third week
of the month, so I believe it is so another
kettle seals and the and the entries are give them
the same a regular duty gets even though what was
going to come to the ladyship them, and of course
it will be up better. Hey are you probably helping guys?
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than ten point three. Town now nine point eight tillorowat
nine point six, Winton eight point six, at Woodlands at
eight point eight. David Stevens of Balfa dear Farmer starts
to muster off for your Wednesday, followed up by Sam
Grant of Craig's Investment Partners.
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Is due out at two o'clock this afternoon, so Sam
passes have been a comment around that. Nathan Nelson and
dear in z looking at feed on farm and just
looking at your rotations at the moment and just making
things work well. The feed is a little bit tight.
Jacob Duffy, black Caps bowler, of course, origins from Northern Southland.
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So we catch up with Jacob see how things are going.
He has been a bit going on since he spoke
to him. Last and lastly, Catherine Wright talking mental health.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
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The stock sale report from Balclusa. I think Warick may
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Speaker 2 (02:58):
Good afternoon, David. How are you.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Good after soon?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
How's everything up there at Belfer? Are you drying out
at all? Is that a thing at the moment?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Today is a nice wind. That's a nice day today.
Pleasn't change. But yeah, it's typical springtime. I suppose yes.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Would you have noticed much different to your rainfall Tealley
compared to say this time last.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Year, Well, they tell me, and I haven't been following it,
but they tell me we've had much the same. So
I think we've probably missed out in a wee bit here.
I know, coming down from Central the other day, certainly
up the top end of the province there was a
lot of rain up there and the rivers were out,
so obviously they've had a lot more than what we've had.
But overall we've had air fha too.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Like everybody from a deer farmer's perspective, how thing's been.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yeah, Philly quiet, I mean a lot of them. I
mean I haven't got next day staggs now, so a
lot of them will be into your just starting into
cutting velvet on the next day staggs. Obviously the younger
ones are later on, but that'll be happening probably just
keeping the hinds sort of in winter mode almost you
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normally do through to probably later this month. The first
of the fauns start dropping in early November, so yeah,
it's one beauty of with deer farming. If you've got
hinds about the cave, you can actually sort of tighten
things up for them or just keep them on winter
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mode on the way through and then shut up winter
feed and hit it off at a reasonable time. Sort
of do that early November. So mind you that it
might be a wee bit later this year because of
just the season. Things have been a bit cold, so
it might be a bit quieter, but no, no, they'll
be intervelping a bit different down here, were quite a
bit later than up north. They'll be well and truly
(04:58):
getting through their mixed staggs now in the North Island
and they'll be looking around and just wondering who's going
to buy it.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
So traditionally Warren Ross touched on this the other week
as well. This is pretty much the quiet time of year,
is that right?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Yes? Yes, I know. It always worked well and kids
had sports tournaments. I was one of the few dads
that could go along to co Away on trips and
that so most of the others were either landing or carving.
So no, no, it's one of the quieter times a year.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
The price of venison too.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Good news around the schedule, Like I remember talking to
you a wee while ago now and ten dollars seem
to be the dream that you wanted for a price.
But it seems as though that you've gone past that
with the schedule.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Yes, yeah, mind with costs. We're looking at a schedule
for the red venison around about well just over the
eleven dollars eleven dollars twenty for a couple of months
October November and then it drops away. Awey bit but
the ELK schedule I think from what I understand, it
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goes right through it about eleven dollars right through into
the autumn. So it's certainly a good price, but no
andy with the costs on farm now, you'd have to
be up around that eleven dollars to justify the costings
on farm now. So I don't know, it's looking good.
It's probably a good thing because the velvet is sort
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of the roomors out there about prices at the moment
and read velvet, particularly non traditional is pretty hard to sell.
I understand everything shifted last year, but just talking to
process not processes buyers this year, they've got the orders.
But non traditional is just that much harder to sell,
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and it's a harder product to actually process.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
You know.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
The traditional is far easier to process. It's not as
for those that don't know what I'm talking about. Let's
see the bigger heads that are. You know, Philly Raff
had a lot more times on in some cases blowing
out at the type of big bulb, whereas the traditional
cleaner velvet with three times and doesn't blow out at
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the top of the big top on it and cut
at the right time. So that's going to be a
wee bit of a challenge this year. So I think
the Wells at the stage sitting on their hands. There's
no prices out for a red velvet for Elk, yes,
the big stuff. This price is out for that at
around one hundred and thirty from what I understand, So
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you know, it looks as though it's going to continue
on from last year. At price is much the same
as what they were getting last year, so they'll be
happy with that.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Just go back to the Venison, she'd do. As as
the high as you've seen.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
It, yes, yes, yeah, no, I got way back. It
got closer way back in about two thousand and one two,
but unfortunately that sort of blew the market out. I mean,
it was a situation where there was a short shortage
of supply of game product going into some of the countries,
(08:13):
particularly Germany, excuse me, and it pushed the price up.
But what we saw out of that was a real
drop away after that, I think had dropped right back
to about three eighty and a number of that sort
of took a number of deer farmers out of or
they left the industry actually and did something else. So
(08:34):
I can't see that happening this time. I think worldwide
proteins in demand and it seems pretty secure, So you know,
we've just got to be aware of that. That's something
that we don't want to happen in game.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
As far as the velvet market, obviously the majority or
does it goes over to China and South Korea? What
are the market signals showing us from there, David.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Well, there's quite a bit of product in the pipeline.
So in Korea we've got a situation where that further
process product that goes into health products. That market at
the moment is probably I wouldn't say stagnant, but it
slowed right down. That volume has reached its sort of
peak at the stage it will grow, but it's not
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going to grow fast from what I understand, as it
has in the past. So that slowed things down. So
you're in a situation where what we really need is
trying to go down the same track, and if that happens,
we certainly get rid of the product. There's no problem
with that, and I think that's starting to happen, but
it's just slower. It's going to happen slowly. It's not
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going to happen at the pace that in Korea over
the last few years. So I think what dear farmers
need to look at is to consider just what they're
with their herds. I mean, they're in a situation where
that roffer velvet is not going to sell that to
be well, and they really need to look at their herds.
And I know, so have the cold out there mixed
(10:03):
ay stacks, certainly the ones that had a rougher head.
So they need to do that, and there's a good
schedule for it. Some have done it back after post rut,
and some are obviously doing a bit of that prior
to velvet growing again for a season. So certainly I
would if I was in their position, I would certainly
(10:24):
get rid of a lot of a mixed ay stacks.
I'd probably then look at the possibility of purchasing some
commercial hinds and the possibility of actually putting an out
of ball over them and getting some elk genetics into
their progeny. And certainly that schedule for elk venison going
(10:45):
into the States is good and it's an opportunity there
where Also, I think the industry's probably gone a wee
bit far to the velvet. It's all very well for
me to say that, because I've done particularly well out
of selling velvet stacks and sires. But over the years
it's just grown considerably that value. And what they need
(11:08):
to do is, I think grow the hind heard again
and get it into the Venison schedule. There's a number
of farmers out there, farmers out there that got rid
of their hinds. I think that now is the opportunity
to actually get rid of some of those old stags.
And certainly the schedule's got Andy. I mean you're looking
at even now seven twenty. You know, you hang a
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big stag up that's you know, one hundred and forty k.
You know, you're getting a pretty good return. They certainly
would cover the cost of an in car behind, you know,
coming on to the property. It's worth thinking about. Put
it that way.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Good to say positives in the industry. David, always appreciate
your time on the Master.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
No problem, Andy, thanks for the opportunity.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
David Stevens, deaf farmer there at neither Day, just out
of Belfay, listening to the muster. Next just along from
Hokkinu Ehq. We're going to catch up with Sam Grant
from Craig's Investment Partners.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
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Speaker 3 (12:27):
Sam Grant and Cragg's Investment Partners joins us once again
on this beautiful afternoon down here in the Deep South.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
La is Sam good things? Andy appreciate having me on.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
We'll start with this the Global Dairy Trade Auction result overnight.
Another drop in the GDD price in decks of one
point six percent. Those key figures there, just quickly running
through the figures and hydrous milk fat up one point two,
butter down three, butter milk powder up two point three,
Cheeda back up sorry point eight, no lactose mozzarella down
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eleven point eight, skim milk powder back zero point five,
and whole milk old of the key one they're back
two point three percent. So that's four drops in a
row for the GDT.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah, absolutely, and I think that make it's got eight
in the last ten options I think have now dropped
since things peaked in May. So over over all the
total duty auction is down about what's that about twelve
point four percent since it's highs and May, so yeah,
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quite a big pullback from what we're technically record highed.
But I think sort of consensus out there now is
we probably can't absorb too many more decreases in the
GDT before you have to start moving that milk price.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Well, a ten dollars milk price at the moment midpoint range.
It's the thing of beauty. But like you say, it's
all about now as far as what happens regarding the
milk price as to where we're going.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
To be, right, absolutely, absolutely, yeah, And you know there's
been sort of two big drops over that sort of
period since May and July and September. Yes, hopefully getting
out the rest of the year movement that volatility and
that price isn't two major would be quite nice as
we sort of hidden into the season.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So I good time to be a dairy farm of
a cheepers.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yeah, absolutely, you know, obviously strong season capital turn coming
back to farmers as well. Yeah, you know, it's sort
of really driving the gel on the comedye at the moment.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Isn't it coming in on the next hour or so?
Sam As the Reserve Bank's ocer decision, the big question
is they going to go zero point two five or
zero point five remembering we need to stimulate the growth
after the last quarter result.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, absolutely, so that want to take their mind back
obtually I peaked at five and a half percent and
we're now sitting at three. So for expectation that we're
going to see at zero point two five percent cut,
But the real question is, you know, are we going
to see them move it to half a percent which
would take us to two and a half percent effectively
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the end of last week sort of the market chance
to sort of thinking about thirty percent chance of a
half a percent move. But I think one of the
key things for me was, you know, three of the
major banks we expect ASB and Qriybank were calling for
the bigger half a percent cut. I think there's quite
a bit of noise out there around you know, the
market really needs that sort of half a percent to
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sort of cut things along, and we're now sort of
seeing the ocr potentially bottoming and out at two point
twenty five percent at the moment. So if we get
this half a percent cut with I need that call
of a percent from the bottom, so which would obviously
put quite a relief food for mortgages and households.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Again, well that was going to be my next question.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
What would this mean for mum and dad as far
as households and regarding mortgages.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, so half of percent so OCI doesn't drive through
your longer term rates as much it as that shorter
term stuff. So if you are floating, you'd definitely see
the cut flow through almost immediately on those longer term rates.
It's a few more sort of economic factors, but you
would see a degree movement now anyway, but you'd sort
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of start to see things sort of head down to
the low fours you'd expect.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Does it look as though the OCR in general those
going in the right direction?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, the main reason we cut
the OCR is to get the economy going, make it
more attractive for people to spend, make it more attractive
for businesses to spend and to invest in. You know,
when people spending this money sort of spurs on economic growth,
which is what we need as a nation. Obviously, down
this way, it's things a lot more positive. But you know,
(16:42):
if you do talk to anybody in the major centers,
particularly Wellington and Auckland, you know it is quite stark
how dire things are there comparatively to the regions. At
the moment.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
The nz X is on a wedding streak as well.
We talk about the Orbeck's doing well at eden Park.
Well it's very similar with the ZX surging three point
one percent last week, which is the strongest weekly gain
and over a year.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
So more positives yet.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Again, yeah, yeah, So the New Zealand market is very
interest rate sensitive, so any talk around interest rates being cut,
we do see good movements in the New Zealand's stock exchange.
So prior to twenty twenty, the New Zealand market was
one of the strongest round the world. Been a bit
of a lag yard it's about the last five years,
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but yes, about about thirteen and a half percent since
the end of April, which was sort of a bit
of a low in the market with all that sort
of tear off talk, and then for the year was
sort of setting up with three three point two percent,
so finally starting to get a little bit of attraction
in the New Zealand share market, which is nice to
see because, yeah, where all the growth has been over
(17:49):
the last sort of few years has all been overseas,
So nice to see the local market starting to trend
in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yeah, all this tariff talk, we're not really going to
see a flow on effect until later on in the year,
is that correct?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah, yeah, so there's still a fair bit of stuff
to flow through through the US effectively. Yeah. You know,
sometimes you don't have a full picture where you land
until it's for a couple of months down the line
as well. So I think the one thing you tend
to know with this current administration of the US is
sometimes a bit more noise than the redction sometimes.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
So are we seeing a rebound of the New Zealand
dollar given it's dropped quite a bit over the against
the major currencies recently.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Away but not but not much or well below sort
of long term averages effectively at the moment, So you
still have a much weaker dollar than what we traditionally
would Sam.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
If somebody's to get in touch with the team, what's
the team at Craig's Investment Partners, the best way Yeah,
either gives to go.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
On two o nine to zero one five foot or
whether U said one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Main tret In good only say I'm always appreciate.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Your time, awesome things, and welcome back to the muster.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Nathan Nelson out of Darry and Z joins us once again.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Nathan, how are you good?
Speaker 7 (19:14):
A Andy, Good to be with you as always.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah, good to catch up. Look, we're going to talk
about this straight off the cuff. Is the way that
the weather has changed. We spoke to you I think
about six weeks ago, and you were cautiously optimistic about
the spring that was ahead, and you seem to be
correct in that thinking.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
Yeah, I think we talked about back then how things
were shaping up off the back of a reasonably kind
sort of July and even August, and I dare say
things have sort of changed with the weather, that's for sure.
And yep, the last probably four even five weeks have
certainly been certainly been a battle.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
And yeah, I guess there's.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
Quite a range across the province. But yeah, the theme
would be just that challenge of back to that challenge
of feed utilization and farmers onto their second round. Most
of the herd carved down now and quite a bit
of feed demand on the herd, and just probably just
battling the elements would be the fairest way of saying it.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
So that's the thing to think about at the moment now,
feed strategies until we get some growth.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Yeah, I think it's fairly universal you and I just
chatting off here. Obviously a discussion group yesterday just north
of Gore, and the farmers that we had there were
you know, sort of fairly widespread across the province, and yeah,
there was definitely a sense of like right on top
of feed and or probably just you know, like not
a lot of feed cover in front of them, and
probably that challenge of what feed maybe is in that
(20:40):
second round is actually the utilization of it without wrecking
paddocks or you know, like just making a lot of damage.
So yeah, I think probably just worthwhile touching on some
of those strategies and just things to think about. Probably
caveated by the fact that everyone's farm and system and
options are a bit different, but yeah, hopefully just will
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roll through a few strategies and something in there will
resonate for our listeners.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
So that seems to be general consensus.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Feed levels just well behind where we need them to
be given we so far through carving.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
Yeah, I think like most people would be growing probably
like below demand to be a fair comic to say
average pasture covers are quite variable, but I think, yeah,
general consensus that that feeder is definitely tight and probably yeah,
just whether you've been able to get to get some
(21:32):
nitrogen fertilizer on or certainly the helicopter guys have been
busy again, you know, trying to flight on where they
can or where there's a gap to be able to
get it on. There's one option to try and boost
that sort of feed supply option. I guess the other
strategy that we'd sort of encouraging there. I say that
we probably learned a lot of lessons from last season
(21:53):
in the spring that we were out just as far
as you know, if you've got that option of insured feeding,
then certainly that's the most favored options, certainly at this
milk price that's on offer at the moment, to probably
just put feed in that regard because that's your best
return on your investment and obviously you know, your highest
return on feed utilization and trying to keep cows you
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know a little bit full or content before they head
back out to the paddocks. So it'll be the first
first one to sort of really look at what's possible
in shed feeding. Then if you've got options to you know,
have some feed in some trailers, either the palm kernel
or palm kernel dt G mix, either at the exit
race or on a hard surface somewhere, just you know,
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another option to get some feed into them, or bale
of bailas or fiber or something, just so they're going
back when they do go back to those paddocks, there's
a little bit of energy in the system and a
little bit of gut fill before they actually head back
out onto the paddocks. I think the other side of
it again, every farm is different. But clearly if you've
got like standoff facilities or ability is seeing cows ofspishing
(22:57):
the worst of those whether it's then yeah, definitely utilize that.
If you haven't, it's probably planned b a is Yeah,
pick one of those paddocks that can become a bit
of a standoff paddock, and you try and probably contain
or minimize you know, that pasture damage or making mother
as much as possible. Obviously acknowledge that all these shretities
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you know, are quite time consuming, and you know, people
at the end of carving, so there's probably a fair
bit of fatigue around the place as well, and just
that mental fatigue I think of, you know, sort of
been back to where we were almost this time last
spring and how much of a challenge that was. So
definitely encourage just that conversation of chicken in with your
team as well, and let's have some probably some reasoningly
(23:41):
honest conversations about you know, where energy levels are at
and how people are actually yeah, like managing or coping
given that. Yeah, for the time you get the into carving,
you're reasonably sort of tied and where anyway, and then
you've got the challenge of dealing with the weather and
trying to keep cows fit and content. So yeah, definitely
checking with your teams would sugges on that front. And
if you're the farm decision maker or manager or shermocher
(24:05):
her owner, I think, yeah, it's probably that sense of
picking up the phone and having a check to some
of those neighbors that you trust, or just get a
sick in opinion or chew the fat and yeah, sort
of share a bit of that mental load, and then
would probably suggest, yeah, like if you're working with a
farm consultant, worthwhile just the second opinion, run some ideas
past them, or whether it's not your consultant, it might
(24:26):
be your VET or their en Z team certainly always
there as your area manager to just be a sounding
board or a bount some of those ideas about so what.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
A supplement level was like in general, Nathan, given.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
We had a kind winter, Yeah, I think like the
rallies probably, as we said earlier, if you've got that
in shed feed, then that's your first priority, just mainly
because of the utilization effect. Sounds like from you know,
discussions and regional intel, there is you know, like good
good sort of supplies of silage and bailage on farms,
(24:58):
but inless you're feeding that on concrete or maybe a
lane or yeah, like that probably is going to be
potentially a bit more variable energy and or just the
utilization of that. But the reality is for those that
probably the covers are a bit lower on farm or
growth rates aren't there, that's just going to have to
be a needs must, And to be fair, you probably
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need a little bit of fiber or effective fiber going
into the diet anyway. So yeah, I think that is
probably reasonably favor off the autumn that we had last year,
and subtlements as far as sologs and vlages go, able
to be restopped.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
But yeah, I think.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
It's just a matter of pulling on all the levers
you've got just to get through this tight patch. And
I suppose in the back of farmers minds they're thinking,
you know, we sort of threw four weeks out from
plan started mating as well, so certainly want to be
sort of offering at least what intacts we can to
keep couse hitting in the right direction. Possibly another strategy
(25:58):
if you've got the option to do that, or the
herd side allows, probably a good idea just splitting those
mobs on maybe body condition score, like younger animals, and
if you've got to run two different mobs, just mobbing
them up just to sort of help prioritize that condition
and keep young stock heading in there, or not young stock,
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but younger animals heading in the right direction to just
reducing the competition with some of those neckstage cows.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, good words, especially given the way the feed situations
tightened up at the moment.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Nathan always appreciate your time.
Speaker 7 (26:30):
Thanks Andy, good to chat.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Nathan Nelson of Derry and z I got rid of
Daniel Beddingfield and put his sister on instead. A lot
more Perichia and that's what we want. On a Wednesday
right before the end of the year. Are Catherine Wright
talking Mental Health Awareness Week? But up next black Cat
Jacob Duffy, Well, back to the muster on haker Nuie.
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Jacob Duffy, black Caps bowler. Of course, his origins were
from Lumsden and Northern South and we spoke to him
a wee while ago now and he's just about to
go over to the UK and to do a Stinton
County cricket. But since then I think it's fear as say,
it has been quite a bit going on in his
cricketing landscape. Jacob joins us this afternoon to give us
a bit of a rundown about it all. Jacob, Welcome
to the muster once again.
Speaker 8 (27:23):
We don't know where's mate takes of me.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah, last time we spoke to you, it was on
the eve of departing over of going over to the
UK to be part of the County Championship for Worcestership.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I think I've pronounced that correctly.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
When it's Worcester, Worcestershire, Worcestershire, it's one of the other,
isn't it.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
Yeah, you're doing better than me. Yeah, Yeah, that's a
cool trip. Obviously, sign up for w to do sort
of a three months st playing a mixture of four
day cricket and twenty twenty crickets, but a long stint
to ours, three months of full on you know, their
schedule of there's crazy, so you're sort of playing four
or five days out a week, so that was pretty
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full on and then they're from there. We're lucky. We
went to Zimbabwe on the Black kIPS tour and we
had a successful twenty twenty series and then followed by
obviously a Test day boo as well, which is cool.
And then we've got a very very last minute arter
to go join up in one hundred as an injury replacement,
so back to the UK we went, and then yeah,
come September, I managed to miss all the winter and
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get home for a sunny spring.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yeah yeah, and Verdi commas on that one, mate, But
like we talk about going over and we you know,
last time we spoke about County cricket. Arguably it could
be considered a grind playing cricket five days a week.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
How did you find it?
Speaker 8 (28:37):
Yeah, grind's a good way to put it. But yeah,
the schedule, this is a hot topic over there. They
play fourteen first class games, which is a lot, says
fourteen four hours. We play eight over here, So they
are playing, you know, sort of Monday to Thursday every week,
with you know a lot of bus travel and things
like that.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Luckily, we'll still quite a.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
Bowling friendly sort of place, so we acceed some shortened
games in terms of like you know, we're sort of
three D fixes sometimes just because yes, that couldn't survive
the four days. But it was a grind, mate, But
it was awesome, awesome experience. It's something I've always sort
of looked at from a distance and watched. So to
get over there and see what it's like from the
south and you know, put myself through the grind was
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a you know, it was a good challenge.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
And you compare it to what we see over here
in New Zealand with the planket shield and the likes.
From your perspective, what's the biggest difference apart from playing time.
Speaker 8 (29:34):
Yeah, it's a lot of people ask you that it's
what's the quality light? Is it better as it worse?
It's so hard to say because conditions are so different.
So well, for one, they use a different ball, so
they use a juke ball, which helps the bowlers moths,
it does more, it swings more. But their pictures are
so slow and pract to be honestly, you know, they're
like low slow. They suit sort of medium pace less
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slow bowling guys who are just running and there's a
skill and you know they're deadly accurate at what they do.
But for a guy, let me, I come over with
a little bit extra pace, that sort of worked against
you over there. You know, guys could use that pace
for as the slab older as they couldn't really hit
the ball for the line. So it was a challenge
in itself. It was a good challenge for me because
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obviously got We've got a Test series over the next year,
so it's sort of good prep for that. But yes,
it's just very very different. So yeah, it's almost hard
to explain any.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Now you bring up an interesting situation. They're regarding the ball.
The juke ball very much notorious over in the UK,
the croco barre ball generally used around the rest of
the world. Is there there big a difference between the
use of the cracker ball?
Speaker 7 (30:44):
It is?
Speaker 4 (30:45):
It is.
Speaker 8 (30:45):
Yeah, the juke ball sort of laugh before eighty overs.
You can still have a swing and ball come the
steving us over, whereas the croco baro ball sort of
dies maybe at best after thirty forty overs. So it
depends on where you look at it. I guess, you know,
guys have to be a bit more creative in terms
of how you're getting guys out. That's why we see
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a lot of bounce of plans over here and guys like,
now we're going to have made that popular. But they
trial the cocobar of this. They play four of their
fourteen rounds with cocobarra balls, and you just see the
scores skyrocket. You know that you're getting silly games like
one thing gets six hundred, the next team gets seven
hundred and they shake hands. So yeah, there is a
(31:26):
bit of a difference. And yeah, I'm not sure what
the right answer is. I think the corcobar works well
in New Yellen and the dupi will works well in England,
So maybe it is that's just how it should be now.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Test Stavo occurred a couple of months back. Now Jacob
in Zimbabwe, just explain what that meant to you and
actually have the silver thrown one and the longer format
of the game.
Speaker 8 (31:47):
Yeah, it was, yeah, very special. You know, I'm not
I'm not a spring chicken anymore. I turned thirty one
just around that time, so and there's been a lot
of times where I thought that sort of test tabu
might never come. So I guess to finally get that
ID and finally get that to get the baggy Black
Cat was it was very special. And yeah, I guess
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at times like that you sort of reflect on, you know,
how you got there, all the people that took to
get you there, and yeah, that's certainly what the hell
of a lot of people that were that did get
me there, especially for the southern folks, my family, all
the coaches growing up and then supportive life now. So
it was a very cool reflecting time over as a babe.
(32:30):
The shame wasn't in New Zealand. I could have done
it in front of Myndew zeal you know, friends and family.
But yes, that's one thing you're never to take off
me as my black.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Cat being in camp with the Test team.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Is there any difference to say, the short form format
when you're all together or it's pretty much the same
as just a different format.
Speaker 8 (32:49):
That's good question. Nah, very much the same. Everyone's pretty
relaxed in both sort of camps. There's a lot of
crossover in terms of players and stuff. But yeah, no,
I would't say it's a huge difference. I have been
in and around the Test team a lot in the
last four years. I just haven't played much, to be honest,
so I've sat there and carried a lot of drinks.
But still some of my best croocketing memories have come
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in the Test are in it, you know, Like I
was there for the build up of the World Test
Championship final. I was there in India for the three
Nils serious sweep ahead of them over there, and some
of those are some of the best touring times in
my life. So it is a very very cool and
like you said, it's very rewarding when you do you do,
you know, pour cool things off. And yes, they still
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wouldn't very specially part of that group.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
But at the same time, playing at the Mount over
the weekend Bowlington Mitchell marsh. You still must have pinch
yourself to see yourself in those situations.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
Right, Yeah, yeah, you do. You know, growing up you
watch the Chapel Headley and his elm versus Ossie was
always the big ones. There's the one I got excited
for as a kid. You know, see Brenda McCullum sort
of Scoop Ramp and Sean take for in the early
days and things like that. You know, they were sort
of the memo of one. So YEAHS came up against
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the big brother was pretty cool. We probably didn't put
our best product out there. But they're playing a team
man s. They're playing a grist of brand and cricket
and I think they've won in about twenty five of
our thirty twenty twenties, so you know they're they're the
informed team going into a sort of a World Cup
year next year. So awesome prep for the start of
the summer.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Certainly from a from a fans' perspective, Jacob playing Australia
straight away, it gives you anxiety and sends you to
a shrink because you know how it's been over the years.
But when you're on there, torena yourself as such, what
do you do do You just have to get mind
over matter and just focus on what you're doing. Given
it is a much daunted betting betting team you're facing.
Speaker 8 (34:45):
There is a lot by that to us, mate, they're
all massive.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Big blokes.
Speaker 8 (34:48):
They're a lot bigger than that we have, like physically,
they're brand of cricket they're playing right now. I see
they've just brought into this not given a crap bylocks
of it. You know, they go out and they're swing
hard and and it's yeah, it looks were freeing when
to play their cricket. So there is a little bit
that I think we come out in that first game
and quickly as a bowling in it, we sort of yeah,
(35:11):
we're a little bit on the deck foot there. I
thought the way we come out there that last game
almost defended sort of a lowest total apart from a
good match my century. I thought we, yeah, we were
better off for that first one, that first head out
and yeah, shame of the run out in the middle
because I would have loved another got them and.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Just finally England's next on the shed. You're not too
far away. What do you do in between and between
the weeks before preparation mself as such.
Speaker 8 (35:40):
Yep, so it's just the mirror go around continues. You know,
they're here sort of next week. So I've got the
week spinning mostly a Tiger Bolts this week, just training
and begging along with their prison preseason stuff, so taking
over the bowling and sort of using it as a
bit of a catch up on or sort of my
strength and conditioning to and the lifting of my running,
so heavy training week and then we got to cross.
(36:02):
It's on the Monday, so yeah, that's the play.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Hey, good on, you're Jacob. Thanks very much for your
time on the Muster. We're enjoying watching your work down
here in the Deep South and we'll continue to do so.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Always appreciate your time. We'll catch up again.
Speaker 8 (36:16):
Hellower's mate Blady guys, thanks having me this.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Jacob Duffy black Cat cricketer doing a sterling job as well.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
England series coming up.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Before we wrap up, Catherine Wright, we're talking mental health
Awareness week.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Feel that rain on yours. No one else can feel it, file.
Speaker 7 (36:39):
No one else, no one else can speak the words on.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Your Katherine Wright joins us this afternoon on the Muster.
Of course, she's a counselor based on the Fieldland basin,
as well as doing a thesis regarding real mental health. Catherine,
welcome once again we catch you this afternoon, just on
your way back from Auckland. You been speaking. Firstly, we've
got blue sky, it's warmer, it's windy in the south,
(37:04):
but it certainly is a change to the mood.
Speaker 9 (37:08):
Absolutely, thanks Andy. Yeah, and I checked the weather forecast
is today and actually, very interestingly the weather forecast is
warmer down south and it is for here at Auckland.
So looking forward to coming home.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
It'll be the first time in about five years because
it's been bloody cold down here.
Speaker 9 (37:24):
Absolutely, yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
So it is Mental Health Awareness Week, Catherine, from your lens,
what's something you need to focus on when you're getting
into October on a farming on a farming instance.
Speaker 9 (37:36):
Okay, a few things. So I'm actually up here. I've
been at a conference speaking about rural mental health too,
mental health professionals, and the theme that's kind of come
through and also happens to be the theme of mental
health Awareness this week is actually connection and community. We
talk about individual mental health interventions, which are great too,
(38:00):
but then if you can just take a step back
and look at a community, and look at your rural
community and think about how could you either make that
better or how could you get involved. So community interventions
are things like stepping for farmers. It's like your rugby team,
it's like your pay group. It's any kind of group
that happens in a rural community that you can get involved.
(38:22):
And with the longer days, now is the time to
get out and try to test something out, test a
different group. Don't write it off if it's not something
that you think that you wouldn't be interested in straightaway.
I also want to acknowledge that everybody's coming to the
end of four or five months of feeding out and
(38:43):
that there is stress, and there probably has been loneliness
and isolation. I would urge you to not let that
stop you from getting out and connecting because we need
it is it's a visceral need. It's like hunger or
first if we feel lonely, we need to reach out
to people. It's the way that we're Would.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
You say the overall state of mental health is improving,
It's a really good question.
Speaker 9 (39:07):
I think that a lot of mental health issues are
becoming more visible. So awareness is growing, which is great.
But with awareness comes a real or perceived view that
it is becoming more common. I'm not so sure that
it is. I just think that it was hidden a
little better. We didn't have the internet to or social
(39:28):
media to see these problems all the time. People are
feeling safer to be able to speak out and say so.
Therefore it's becoming more visible. I'm not sure that it
is increasing. In fact, I've seen some statistics in certain
mental health challenges that are actually getting.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Better because there used to be a real stigma around
not feeling okay in a mental capacity.
Speaker 8 (39:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (39:50):
Yes, and I do believe that there still is that stigma.
In my research, it's one of the clear barriers to
health seeking. Fortunately, it's the hardest one to address. What
I have found in my work and in my research
is that these stories of help seeking, of normalizing mental
(40:12):
health help seeking behavior, they must come from peence a pre.
They must be positive stories told on the ground in
rural communities that go from people to people. It cannot
be people speaking down to rural people telling them what's
what they need to do and what needs to happen.
It needs to come peence a pre and Often when
(40:33):
people get to a place of finally opening up, talking
to their mate, talking to someone they work with, quite
often the reception is something like I've been there.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Too, So, like you talked about before, we're coming towards
the end of the winter slash, landing, carving, grind. What's
your message to people regarding getting off remembering that there's always.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Work to do.
Speaker 9 (40:56):
There is always work to do, and I don't think
that it will ever end. It's a little bit like
sweeping the path before it's stopped snowing, or we've all
seen that meme of the guy trying to push the
ocean back into the ocean with the broom. But to
be sustainable as an ongoing occupation for you, even if
you feel stressed, even if you feel like you've got
(41:18):
no energy, The way that you will regain energy and
gain some feeling of autonomy over your own life is
to actually make that first step. Take take it along
with you, take your stress with you, take your exhaustion,
your fear of perhaps seeing other people. You can do
these things even when you feel that way.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
You went from tier now all the way up to Auckland. Now.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Auckland's a big city, especially in the context of a
country like New Zealand. Do you just notice that when
you're walking down the street about just attitudes on people
being different, especially in a mental sense, that makes sense.
Speaker 9 (41:54):
It's really funny that you should say that end, because
I hadn't. This is that conversation with a group of
people yesterday. There's something about the way that we are
as real people that's difficult to put your finger on,
that is automatically visible if you see another real person.
And that's exactly what happened to me yesterday. I don't
know if it's the body language or the way that
(42:17):
they interact. Maybe it's our personal space. We all know,
and it's true we do have a bigger personal space circle.
I certainly find here that people don't kind of look
at you. There's a lot of people. Everybody's busy going
about their lives. It's like everybody's in an insular bubble.
Just I'm actually watching from the sixteenth floor right now,
(42:40):
I'm stand onto the footpath and I can see it
right now. Nobody looks at each other, no one interacts.
It's quite interesting.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
So nobody's wearing in their text of moleskins or our rems.
Speaker 9 (42:51):
I saw one yesterday and that's how I knew he
was a shaman. Besha.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Well, that's the thing, isn't it. And the thing about
being rural though with a lot of people, If you're
any more relaxed, you'd fall over right.
Speaker 10 (43:02):
Oh absolutely, And I think it's really easy to forget
these phenomenal parties that we have as for real people.
Yes there are issues, Yes we have problems. Yes there
are things that are difficult to solve. But actually, what
if it's.
Speaker 9 (43:18):
Our humanity and our sense of connection that sets us
apart from the rest of the population. That is something
that we can truly be grateful for and just be
in that. If that makes sense, I love it.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Catherine Wright. Always appreciate your time on the muster. Great
messaging is per usual, No problem, thanks.
Speaker 11 (43:38):
Andy, laugh out loud with ad proud because life on
the land can be a laughing matter.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
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the livestock farmer.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
If you're being chased by a pack of taxideramists, don't
play dead. And there's another thought for the day as well.
Never eat yellow snow. That's ask for the afternoon. I mean, Dymo,
you've been listening to the Master on Hakanoi thanks to
Peter Geneix, please sky enjoy, get the shorts out, see
you tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Hey, well all actually go there?
Speaker 4 (44:16):
And what are he going again for?
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Stop selling?
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Action occurred about cluster sallyad this morning of course sakes
of PGG right soon worick? How we he's beat for
one final appearance. We've got on this afternoon to give
us a rundown on prices. How do we go work?
Speaker 11 (44:28):
Yeah, so we're welcome listeners from a very funny ed
winding ball clus.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Hey.
Speaker 11 (44:34):
Yeah, he look at ports, kept rocking on. We heading
other good yarding of the lamb. I looked at prices,
rocked on again. Let's not being to those layers today
anywhere between two hundred and fifty hef over three hundred
dollars three and three hundred and twenty dollars for the
real monsters. And we got to get some really good laying.
I had a good medium layers today anywhere again getting
from one hundred and eighty to two hundred and fifty dollars,
(44:55):
and not of the years we get us at the
moment at Matton Market's rocking along and of course a
lot of wiks. You're going is coming here and let
money there anywhere sort of from there the sort of
one sixty sixty right food and the sort of two
twenties after some sort of some real leptote stumpers there
one or two if we lost the years and make
it over a hundred of dollars, but that marks me
very strong. The last still three weeks good medium views.
(45:17):
They're making that fort one hundred and twenty to one
hundred and sixty one hundred and sixty dollars, and the
lightning were sort of a swing sort of eighty five
that a hundred seen depending on what they are. I
will ever know. The kettle sell here a third week
of the month, so I believe it is so another
kettle seals and the and the entries are give them
the same a regular duty gets even though what was
going to come to the ladyship them, and of course
it will be up better. Hey are you probably helping guys?
(45:39):
You play postil We just meet it but fit of winner,
and shall we all fantastic? Thank you very much,
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