October 8, 2025 • 47 mins
Andy Muir talks to Geordie Eade, Jason Herrick, Nigel Woodhead, Claire Teutenburg, Nathan Burdon and David Morrison.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Good afternoon, and welcome to the muster on Hakanui. I
mean he merely here until two o'clock this afternoon, of course,
thanks to Peter's Genetics. Thanks for your company as we
see a little bit of sunshine over Main Street with
cloud on the horizon, but generally a mild afternoon, much
appreciated as well. We'll talk with it surely, but before
we go any further, if you're after a good book,
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Speaker 1 (01:03):
This afternoon cloudy, we're breezing nor Westerlys and nineteen Friday sunny,
We're breezing or westerlyes five and eighteen. Saturday cloudy with
brisk north westerlyes nine and nineteen, Sunday showers of breezing
or westerly six and fourteen, and on Monday light ray
with westerly three and eleven. So temper just a hand.
Clinton nine point nine, Northern south of nine point eight,
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Riverton ten point nine, tiann Now ten point three, Tea
at ten point two, Winton ten point three, Woodlands nine
point eight. So we start to show Jordy Yed farming
at Riverton. Jordi talks about this allion's vote that's coming
up in the next ten days or so. Jason Herick
a South con federated farmers. Has been a change of
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approach between South and feeds and fishing game. Why is this?
Jason tows us. Nigel Wardhead Farming in South Otago catches
us this afternoon while out in the paddocks beef and
lambs Clear Totenberg is on the program and our residents
Sporting gury. Nathan Burdon reviews the stag season Dave Barrison
for PGG Rights and gives us a rundown on the
(02:06):
chaff and sale report. See how these prices are going
for these lambs and then we'll start the yurl. Jordi eyed,
you're listening to the muster until two o'clock, thinks to
Peters genetics.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Right right, Jordy, Red farms over at Riverton. It is
the river era of the South, and we catch up
once again. Jordy, good afternoon. How's the river year of
looking today?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Yeah, eighteen degrees, can't complain. I think saw Teams was
probably about twelve. I think if you set there you'd
probably see the grass growing.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Well.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
The sole temperature for Riverton use today was ten point five, which,
in the scheme of things, was pretty darn good.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Yeah, it was probably about that a month ago, though.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Weren't we just going around in circles? You reckon at
the moment, we just need to try and find that
exit that brings a big yellow out for ten days,
or say.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Yeah and get rid of a sideways rain. It's just
sort of driven me nuts, really. You know, we had
two eight eight mills for September. We had about seventy
mills either side of the August and guinea of October,
so we've had four hundred mills and forty days. Yeah,
the forty days, forty nights. It's nearly an ARC, nearly
an arc being built.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
See it sounds like it, Nolly, you have all the
animals lining up in no time. But I think it's
fair to say your rainfall is pretty much where it
needs to be, probably over it for the time of year. Yeah, yeah,
no it is.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
But in saying that, it has been better than last year,
probably because we had a drier starts and I think
probably had more grass covers the user and a neck
so you know, lamb desk Telly's down well over one
hundred sort about one hundred and fifty lambs less, So
that's the positive side, I suppose. And we didn't have
a lot of mothering up. The hogwits are lambing now
and they took along pretty well. I fed them pretty
(03:57):
well through the year, so that took along pretty well.
We just down to the last sort of sixty of them.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Have your tailed yet, no, we sort.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Of tail probably about the end bound labor weekendish and
we drenched them, give them that first drench on mums
and then we sort of finish off the rest of
the mess house. So it sort of ties in pretty good.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
So your feel will be looking pretty tight.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
Is it.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Oh, not bad, because we're a wee bit understocked with
the cows coming and going and the grass. So yeah,
it's I don't know how I'd done it when I
was fully stopped, because I'm moving everything a to be here,
to see to d just to try and keep plenty
of feed because it's a pretty critical part time right
now with that milk and off mum into those lambs.
And I mean, it's certainly something we couldn't do last year,
and it's sure enough and we come to winning those
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lambs weren't there because of the October again, so crap.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
So the Alliance Greek road Shows, Jordi, we'll touch on
this because it's pretty relevant with the big vote happening
on October the twentieth and Umbicagoo. Regarding the reset and
recapitalization of the cooperative, it's almost like the Dragon's den.
But the meat industry addition, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
It is, it is, it is, And I you know,
the frustrating about for them, in my personal opinion is
it hasn't. It's not addressing anything that's wrong with the industry,
you know, it's it's just like a band aid and
keep on back to work on Monday. We just hope
that this will see what the problem is.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
But it doesn't interesting speaking to a lot of farmers though,
to be honest, especially at the meeting and good last
week Jordie, and they're resigned to the fact that whether
they wanted this to occur or not, they needed to
support it because the elt the other side of the
coin wasn't worth contemplating.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Yeah, or the other side of the corn. We don't
really know what the other side of the coin was.
It's the trouble. You know, we're sort of being lead
to believe that this is the one and only option.
But for what I have understand is the Lions have
been in the worst equity position in the earlier years.
And you know, the sentiment in my area here is
where we were probably ten years ago. Most of us
were platinum suppliers Alliance. A lot of them have moved
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supply in the last five years, but we still all
have a lot of equity in the company. So not
that we don't supply them, we still have a lot
of equity, and so we're concerned.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
And I would have.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Seen the areare here, a lot of people were against it,
but you know, I have obviously even moved far in
the last month or six weeks to know the truth
and what's happening around the rest of the problems.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
So the majority of the people around your neck of
the woods, they're against us going through and they're going
to vote accordingly.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yes, yes, from what I understand, I mean my group
chats and whatnot. I mean, it's just it just does.
It's not dealing with the absolute problems of the industry,
you know, Like I mean, in my opinion, I would
love to those two big meat companies to get in
the room and do some rationalization and come to an agreement.
And you know, we supply a milk to Fonterra. Now
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they're the you know all over the countryside, and I mean,
you know they they burn some bridges. But you know
that big cooperative seems to work, and it's worked really well,
as I've proved it well.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
You look at Frontierra, you look at Open Country as well,
two business models that are going great guns. And they
talked about it back in twenty fifteen. I think it
was about a super amalgamation between Alliance and silverfar and
Farms at the time before Shanghai mailing got involves and
Vold of Silverfa and Farms. Have we missed the boat
on that though? Are we too far down the track
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to get the brains into the room and to clash
out at an idea?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yeah we could.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Well, I'd like to hope that we're not. But I
would think we're probably at a point now that there's
surely not going to be much more of a diminishing
and lamb meat the volume, and surely we can there
still some brains there. And I mean, you know, money,
money plays a big difference, you know, if we're getting
you know, not, I'd like to love nine dollars plus
maybe ten dollars plus for kilo for lamb meat. You know,
(07:36):
that's that's great, And I mean that starts talking a
few other ideas in the room.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Then surely would it be a different situation if the
land price is down around say six dollars fifty seven
dollars a kilo, a lot we've experienced not that long ago, Yes, it.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Would be yeah, yeah, no, definitely, And I mean I
don't think we need to be in that territory again,
and I mean, you know, the industry knows that. But
if it comes back to there, you know, I think
probably to a certain extent. That's why those forestry conversions
have really taken off. And I mean, and you know
there's a bit of hope and wall, you know in
all this hope, but you know what's around the corner?
Are we going to have to give anesthetic to our
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lambs at tailing? And I mean, in my opinion on
our personal fam the only reason I tail is because
of wall. So that could be the real good night
nurse for the ball with that if we go to have.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
To go down that path a different tass. It's mental
health Awareness Week, Jordie. Let you say we're getting through
the bum's rush off September slash October gradually. What do
you do as far as a reset? Do you like
go for a run or anything like that. You're pretty
fit in your rugby days. Do you still take a
ball out and have a cack or what do you
do when you pass that the lan's not coping?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah, I'd love. I bought a new bike at this
time last year, have great intentions again and use it.
And I mean I still haven't allocated at the time.
But it's funny en after the last two weeks, my
wife's got me in the jigsaw puzzles. So at night
doing jigsaw puzzles, these real back to front ones where
you don't actually know what you're doing, and they actually,
you know, the actually has taken not only your mind
(09:03):
off what you're doing, but also stopped you're looking at
your phone.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
One thing about jigsaw puzzles and this is just me.
I can't understand why you just rip everything apart having
to put it together again for no apparent reason.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah, we've had our cat who's wholly around the lounge
and he's wrecked it twice the last time I've been
doing so Yeah, that sort of ruins the you know,
the will to what about it put all back together again.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
They just finally been. The boss was talking to me
from Workland the other day. He was asking me about Riverton.
He goes, what's Riverton Like he's thirty seconds sell rivertson
to be in the bus in Auckland.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Being born and bred in Riverton. That I would have
to be positive is that most of the time it's
a great place to be sitting there. And I mean
on a good day in the summer, I homebreck and
there's probably an area in south and that beats it.
It's just you got to put up with that sour
West occasionally. But you know, everything Ribbon's got anything going
for it. I grew up there. A lot of people
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migrated away from there for the end of the nineties,
but hell that over the summer. Now it's just back.
And you know, as soon as if we get a
bit of eight, I can't promote it anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Well, there you go. And it's called the River Era
of the South for a particular reason. Jordy, he'd always
appreciate your time on the Muster. Good Jordy reed from
the River Era of the South. That is Reverendson Jason
eric is South con Federal South Confederated Farmers. Get that
out right, he's up next. You're listening to the Muster.
(10:52):
Welcome back to the Muster, Jason Herrick as president of
South con Federated Farmers. Jason, Good afternoon. Finally we're having
a couple of days of warmer or warmish weather.
Speaker 8 (11:04):
Yeah, isn't it delightful any when the sun comes out
and the warms up a bit. That sort of lifts
the morale of a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Didn't it.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
It's basically been just a frustrating spring yet again after
what has been a pretty good winter unfortunately, as I've
talked about.
Speaker 8 (11:16):
Yeah, it sort of a rinse and repeat from last year,
isn't it. And I know there's a lot of farmers
out there frustrated at the moment about the amount of
moisture that's fallen and in the constant bearrage of the
old hailstorm and a few snow flurries coming through and
call the temperatures. But you know, it is spring and
at the end of the day, we've got to look
to the future and the sun will come out on
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another day. But weather like this that improves, it definitely
lifts the morale of farmers out there.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
That's so.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, welcome to life in South and now fishing game.
There sounds as though there's been some headway me between
yourself and the organization. You've gone hard on South and
fishing game over the last twelve months, but there's been
a bit of a breakthrough there. I don't think I've
spoken to you about that since with other matters arising,
but certainly this sounds like a positive between the two organizations.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (12:06):
Absolutely, so we're getting we're getting, you know, closer to
the end now of what we were asking the Minister
to do. But with the Southern fishing Game, they've come
and leaps and bounds, and with Dave McGregor had taking
over the chairmanships doing a really good job there and
being very communicative and very transparent and open to conversation.
And we're not always going to agree on things, but
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at the end of the day, he's open to have
those conversations and we are talking and getting a little
bit more clarity, and we're going to see some of
that result this month with the government introducing the new
Bill and legislation for fishing Game into the House. They
told us that that's happening this month, which will pull
them out of the Conservation Order, away from DOC and
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have its own legislation, and there's a lot of changes
that's going to be happening in there, and I'll be
really keen to see how far they're actually going to go.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
You are calling for fishing game to be stripped of
their advocacy powers. Do you stand by that?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (13:02):
Yeah, absolutely, I still stand by that. At the end
of the day, they don't have a mandate from hunters
and fishes.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
To actually act on their behalf.
Speaker 8 (13:11):
When you look at the results from there, their council
elections from year and year out and the last election,
I think it was four percent of their license holders
turned out the vote, so that really doesn't give them
a clear mandate to represent hundreds of fishes on the
advocacy front. So yeah, definitely definitely standing behind that.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Four percent is still four percents on democratic process. So Jason,
they got given the opportunity, ninety six percent of people didn't.
Speaker 8 (13:36):
Absolutely, but there's ninety six percent a lot of them
will realized they actually don't know. They don't realize they
can vote, and it's part of the process that's been
in the past that if you wanted a vote in
your next election, you have to ticket tick that box
on the license of the year of the elections that
you want to be a voting party in that most.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
People actually don't realize that's there.
Speaker 8 (13:54):
And I do understand that that might be one of
the changes that's coming in the new legislation that if
you become a license told, you automatically get the right
to vote. You don't need to worry about ticking that
box anymore. So, yeah, it'll be interesting to see where
that all ends.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
So nothing else the last twelve months has brought a
lot of awareness around what Southern Fishing Game does.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
I suppose absolutely, and also what they were creating in
the ways of cost of farmers and cost of the
royal sector and cost of ratepayers by challenging everything in
court all the time and trying to express their advocacy function,
you know, So that it's definitely brought a lot of
light and a lot of attention around that and people
are more aware as to what was going on there now. Yeah,
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and hopefully we can we're looking to a better future
in that regard.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Do you find it a bit of a coincidence of
Karena Jordan's come back in as interim Fishing Game Chief Executive?
Speaker 8 (14:46):
Look, I think Korean has come back in asn interim
CEO because she's she's got the experience there and right
now they're in a bit of a limbo that don't
know where the organizations organization is actually going to sit
in the next twelve months. So that's probably why that
they did bring someone like to rend It back in
just to oversee this next transitional phase and so they
know exactly where they're going to be into the future,
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so then they can look for the appropriate cease, you know,
to guide them into the future with once they know
where this new legislation lands for them.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
So as far as this fishing boycott that occurred twelve
months ago, that's no longer on the cards.
Speaker 8 (15:23):
Yeah, So we've called the boycott off now and calling
a truce with fishing games South and you know, if
they move back into what they were doing before, then
it'll be it'll be kind of bad for them if
we have.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
To call for another boycott.
Speaker 8 (15:37):
But I don't think that's going to happen, not under
Dave's watch, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
So.
Speaker 8 (15:40):
Yeah, let's just what's the space to see where it goes,
and we're developing that relationship as we go.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yes, something that's good for mental health. There's a touch
of fishing for a lot of people now mental Health
Awareness Week. It's a big topic for a lot of
farmers at the moment, just trying to decipher the top
three inches after what we've had getting through landing and carving. Jason,
you're pretty well qualified to speak about this.
Speaker 8 (16:03):
Yeah, So this is why I do what I do
now and why I joined Feed's was because of my
mental health struggles that I've had in the past, Andy,
and and you know, I'm very forthcoming about my experiences
in that in that field, and you know, especially this
time of year when you're in the in the peak
of carving, starting to prepare for mating, and the sheep
farmers are out there, you know, just beginning their landing
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in a lot of parts of South and or just
coming to the end in some parts as well. And
the stresses of the weather, the constant baroers of legislation
and regulation and red tape and and and not knowing
what's coming at you, you know, And to be honest,
I was one of those farmers that really got stuck
in the epathy phase where you just stick ahead in
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the seand and hope it's all going to go away
and someone else is going to deal with it, and you.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
End up putting your head further and further in.
Speaker 8 (16:50):
That sand to the point where that you're drowning. And
you know that's not a good thing. So Mental Health
Awareness Week is always bringing that awareness to your own
mental health and the top branches and making sure that
you're actually are putting that at the forefront of your
thought pattern and knowing that there are things and organizations
out there to help you get through tough times.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
You know, I spoke to Catherine right on the subject
yesterday about farmers recognizing their mental health and no longer
being a stigma about not feeling okay. Do you think
that's right?
Speaker 8 (17:24):
Absolutely correct. I've got a lot of time for Catherine,
and in fact I was part of her study and
her thesis for her qualification at university, and so I've
been working quite a bit with Kevin over the last
few number of years. And yeah, she's definitely heading in
the right direction and I've got a lot of time
for her. And when she speaks, I think everybody should listen.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Just finally, rather poignant considering what we've been talking over
the last couple of months. But this is about democracy,
getting out there and making your vote count in the
local body elections uptake so far as pretty small, yes.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
It is.
Speaker 8 (17:58):
I encourage everybody, if you've got the charge to vote,
go get in and vote and actually make your voice heard.
This is how we form our local governments into the
next three years, right, So the regional Council absolute pertinent
that we get the right council around the table.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
So if you haven't voted.
Speaker 8 (18:15):
You get out there and vote, stand up and be counted,
and don't think for one minute that your vote won't
won't make a difference. It actually does, especially when you're
talking about numbers. And at the moment we're floating in
the twenty percent range of people actually out and vote
out of the you know, out of everyone that can vote,
and that's pretty before. We need to get that well
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up into the into the seventies and eighties. If not
as closer to one hundred, the better.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Good Only Jason, always appreciate your time.
Speaker 8 (18:43):
Welcome and I have a great halfnoon.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
But Jason Erick are South Confederated Farmers. This is the muster. Next,
were a way to South Totigo. Let's have a chin
wag with Nigel Woodhead. This is the Muster. The music
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de Da Da da song from yester year. Nonetheless, but
great tunes for a Thursday afternoon that sees the sun
out here over Main Street and Gore. We catch up
next with Nogere wood Head farming in South Totago between
Bealcloth and Milton Gidde.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Night.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
Yeah, afternoon, Andy.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
How's everything looking in your neck of the woods.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
Oh we took along right now. Yeah, although another day
like you, so it would be nice. It's quite cool
up here, cold breeze here, but yes, it's good to
see that we're the sort of starting to settle down
a bit and warm up. Yeah, we need it.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
How have you been faring over the past couple of weeks?
So I likes of this rainfall. We're hearing certain rainfall
figures around south and anyway being above normal. What have
you guys had.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
I couldn't tell you how it compares to normal, but
i'd i'd like that. Wow, I do assume it's about normal. Yeah,
I've heard a few people sort of say, oh these
are these are good old seth Taga springs where it's
not real settled until until the middle of October. So yeah,
I just think it's normal. Usually we're going to start well,
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I think we're tailing on Saturday and again coming on Saturday,
and it usually starts blowing about when you start boxing
up for tailing. So yeah, that's it's a it's breezy.
I wouldn't call it window. It's just breezy here today.
So that's just what did you get in this time
of year. But yeah, like we had what did we
get sort of fifty five meals or fifty odd meals
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out of there easterly on the weekend, and you know
there was a bit miserable.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
It wasn't much fun.
Speaker 7 (20:43):
It was interesting. Dead, Yeah, dead is here most days.
He didn't come on the weekend obviously with the with
the rubbish weather and come for a look on Monday
and see where's all your grass gone? Like he could
see a difference in three days and pasture covers just
three cold, wet days. So yeah, hopefully war up and
we can build some build some grass around us.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Again. We catch you out in your field literally you
got sounds like you've got some balls around your other life.
What's the picture you got in front of you.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
I'm trying to hide behind a tree line at the
moment to keep out of the wind for here. But
and these marble balls that have just come up to
the fence to say hello. So yeah, if you're lucky,
you might hear my heating dog decide that she's had
enough of them and give them a tune up because
she she's got that look in her eye. But yeah,
so we the balls came off for the beat. The
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air probably won't be three weeks ago, two weeks ago,
and they're on rotation, so just split them up in
the bobst Sorry someone trying to ring me, and yeah,
they're on rotation now. So these guys are These guys
are on Italian rye grass. So they took along pretty good,
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which is yes, it's good. Heaven got a food stick
up in front of kettle.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
So the beat's all over and done with. Just to
got you just need to get the iron horse out
in about some stage.
Speaker 7 (22:01):
Yeah, so I head dead on the track there. Last
week at here we got all the crop petits. He's
been over there with the earraid it so that we've
lifted them all half and opened them up. And yeah,
well we'll get in. I'll probably the one I'm standing
right the side one and there'll go and barley and
pease for signage. Actually, so I'm sort of hoping we
can wipe able to get down in next week after
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where the stays are up. The ground tep is still
pretty cold, so I was sort of hoping to have
some seeds in the ground by now, but I haven't
rushed because the ground temper is still cool. Enough, and
you know there's barley and peas are we first to
go in? And then then there's a heap of carl
and plantains, so that I'm not going to not going
to rush too much on the carl and plantain because
you need it to get out of the ground and grow.
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So that's all reliant on sore temperature.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
And it So how many years lift the land would
you say? You must be pretty well through it.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
Then oh, yeah, we're about about dunderby fear. There's a
handful heart it's thirty or forty hobbits to go, and.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Well, there we go.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
I've just hit enough thirty forty habits to go and
I think I had one hundred and sixty lights and
there's probably half to a third of them to go,
So yeah, not not many to be fear Like, I
say that the gang coming on Saturday to tail or
the first cycle, so good, we'll get hopefully get a
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couple of thousand and a thousand lambs tailed on Saturday
and get the bark of that done, which will be good.
So I'm sitting in the middle of just shoffing if
you're using lambs around, starting to box up for that,
and then we have a big day tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
So as far as your hogg it lambing though, it's
gone as expected, not a lot of assistance required.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
I haven't touched one yet.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
Well that's bad, but to be fair, I only I
will have to admit I've only got fifty five or something. Then,
I just because I cocked up my yulem management in
the spring and in the summer and didn't have anywhere
here as many heavy enough to go to the room
as I wanted, so and I bought some bought some
rams to go over my hoggot. So I thought I've
(24:01):
bought these leams to put something, put them over something.
So I just threw the fifty hebeous out with the rems.
So they're looking good. They you know, they're getting their
lambs born pretty well. The couple a couple went down
in the in the weekend. A couple of limbs have
killed and it easily in the weekend. But by and
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large they're they're lemming them well and the survivals good.
Lemb weight, birth weight seems to be really good. And
they took along pretty good. So yeah, it's yeah to
be fear when there's only fifty of them. It only
takes ten minutes to zipround five minutes zip around a
couple of pets, and that's that's not particularly a street sport.
It's good.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
That's a great thing about this time with you. You
can give yourself a little bit of a reset, having
got through the struggles of September and let you say,
a few hoggarts to go, but you can start looking
forward to the rest of the year for a bit
more certainty. It's always good to get through that September period, right, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
Yeah, we're out the other side now, and you know
the lambs that are here, yea, the lambs there we've gone,
are pretty much all on the ground now essentially. So
I always look forward to tailing because, yeah, then you
get a picture of where things are out for the
next year, and you can put a bit more accurate
budget on numbers, and or a bit more accurate number
and your budget for how many lambs you're going to have,
(25:19):
and yeah, getting a few gates open after tailing, so
that's a bit more stress free with the stock and
hopefully it warms up and and the lambs just start growing.
So yeah, like even this past week has been pretty cruizy,
really good and I've been able to get some other
jobs done, you know, pittch up a few fences and
(25:40):
get some jobs done they haven't been Yeah, it didn't
get done over the winter. And it's a lot more
pleasant to do them now than in the middle of
the winter.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
You know. So does Mental Health Awareness Week noise? Do
you just do anything outside of the square to keep
yourself saying in the top three inches?
Speaker 7 (25:55):
Big thing for me over the last a few years
going to the gym couple of times a week. So
Tuesday night and Thursday night I go to a gym
class in Milton and it's you know, mix of people there,
from transport operators to a few farmers, a real estate agent,
(26:16):
but to just people from all over the show and
skip our gym then just puts us through the ringer
for an hour and it's good, Like it really keeps
on the straight and narrow, and there's a fair bit
of venture and almost verging on abuse goes on between
us all. But that's what it's all about. We're all
really really good friends and get on really well. I
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look forward to that. So it's amazing. You Sometimes you
get busy with meetings and family and farm and things
and you don't get to the gym for a couple
of weeks and you walk out the door treading what's
about to come. But you definitely feel a lot better
out the other side of having a good blowout. And
on a Thursday night we sit around afterwards and E
A B here it's good. So they're definitely, yeah, that
(27:01):
definitely kicks me on the straight and arrow and I
can definitely feel it and myself we I haven't been
for a while, both the fitness side of it and
also that sort of yeah, compelling yarning yarning to the
crew because we all get on pretty well, you know,
can only.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Lia leave it there all the all the best of
those balls in the background.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
It's no host us Andy.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Niger Wood here in South Otago plus a dog and
a couple of balls as well put a background noise.
Nothing wrong with that. Claire Suvesenburg from Beef from their
New Zealand's up next and before the end of the hour,
our residents sporting guru Nathan Burden.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
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Speaker 1 (27:54):
Claire Susanburg from beef and Lair, New Zealand joins us
this afternoon on the muster clear good afternoon. Goodness, see
a bit of sunshine about in the Deep South.
Speaker 9 (28:02):
It's great, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
What a change.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
We'll enjoy it while we can.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Where there. It's like a box of chocolates you could have.
I don't know. You get a caramel nougat one moment,
the next minute you moved on to the peppermint cream.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
I don't like either of those, so.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I'll make a point. I'm not buying you roses anytime soon. Then,
you fussy bugger, no chocolate any AGM. We talked about
it last week regarding what was going on. They're happening
next week in bowcleuth A though, just a further reminder,
Yeah we have so.
Speaker 9 (28:36):
Next Tuesday, the fourteenth, we've got our AGM that's going
to be held in Balclutha. And if I said to
you Andy, it's at the Closer District War Memorial and
Community Center, would you.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
Know where that is?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I would actually say it's on the brand new building
opposite the new Puppet's about to open down by the
bridge at the far end of town on State by
Way one.
Speaker 9 (28:57):
Yeah, yeah, I think more people would know where it
is if I just see it. It's the fancy new
building just before the bridge as you're heading north. So
that's where we're having our AGM this year.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
That's how I found it. Took me years. Been living
in Gore, been here coming up seven years, you just
knew everything was by landmarks.
Speaker 9 (29:16):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, so no fancy building, so we'll utilize that.
Speaker 8 (29:22):
See what it's like.
Speaker 9 (29:23):
I haven't actually been there myself. So that's running from
one thirty till four thirty. We've we've got obviously the
team from down here with our directors due for young
Chair Met McCrae, Vice Matt Taylor, and then we've also
got Kate Ecklinn coming down as well, so it'd be
really good to hear from Kate from a national perspective
(29:46):
about what Beef and me are up to. And we've
also got Philmunt Morrison coming in to give a just
a bit of a chat around what he does is
the Kalovs Real Leader facilitator. He's got a really interesting
background being in the army, so that'll be good to
get to know a bit about him as well.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
So once again the details around the AGM and do
people need to register?
Speaker 9 (30:11):
Yeah, so jomh online to register. That's more for cattering
purposes than anything, but good to know who's coming. But yeah,
Tuesday the fourteenth, one point in the fancy new building
on the left going over the bridge.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
All chances are for catering. You're going to go to
that new pub opposite the new building down by the bridge. Yes,
well I might but yeah, no judgment. Yes, focus groups
they're all that's all about the now.
Speaker 9 (30:40):
Yeah, so we've got now we've got six focus groups
in Southam. I have to say it's it is a
bit of bit to get my head around six different topics.
But the most recent one was yesterday we had a
focus group around growing your people, growing your business. So
that's a new one that's come together collaborating with number
(31:02):
eight HR. That's been a really good There was a
really good day use today looking at there was more
of it. It was an introductory session and we looked
at motivation engagements, setting some KPIs and benchmarking around how
we're going to measure our progress as we work together
as a group over the next twelve months. But one
(31:23):
thing that was really noticed within our delivery is we
do a lot of workshops, a lot of field days
and things around product production, and now we're looking at
exploring more you know, those soft skills around people management,
but also looking at how we can support people coming
into the industry and progressing through a pretty clear pathway.
(31:46):
So yeah, it was a really good day and I'm
excited to keep that.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Group going a better ram buying day not far away
from the ram selling season, dare or say we've just
gone through landing, but the circle starts again.
Speaker 9 (32:00):
Yeah, So something that I could talk about all day.
Genetics ram buying. I mean, it's an investment that's sort
of kicks off in November, depending where you buy your rams.
Obviously North Island a bit sooner than the South. But
we've got to be in a ram by and field
day up at Nisteale station, so Nicstale obviously breathe themselves
(32:23):
Nostlee Genetics, and that is going to be on Friday,
the thirty first of October. So I've gone in there
and juggled up the day juggled up we would normally
do in a delivery workshop and have changed it around
to be a really practical hands on session So for
this particular day, we're going to have both maternal and
terminal rams in the woolshed. We're going to be talking
(32:45):
a lot around the like just the importance of actually
understanding the figures that are putting that are put in
front of you, and you know how you can actually
decipher what that means to you in terms of the
bottom line, how to select for your meat, how to
select for your growth, and what that actually means to
your business. One of the real key points that come
(33:08):
out of the field day is the importance of ensuring
that you're really clear around what your breeding objective is.
So it's being able to assess your performance on farms
and come away and see where the gaps or opportunities
lie in terms of genetics.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
So really.
Speaker 9 (33:28):
You know key skills there and how to go and
get the most out of your out of your rams
and what you're doing. So I'm excited for that day.
We also look at obviously selecting utilizing the improved tool,
and I've got a local vet coming up to also
talk about how to look after your rams from an
(33:50):
animal health perspective. More often than that we can be
prone to slapping them in the forestry block or in
the dog tarkipedict sometimes and your most expensive and more
on farm it's probably not the best way to manage them.
So we do talk about how to look after your
rams so that you know they are really going to
do the job that you want them to do.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Absolutely, and as well the where a Wise workshops they continue.
Speaker 9 (34:15):
Yes, so we've got on Thursday the thirtieth is a
we Wise workshop schedule to happen up in Roxburgh. Certainly
will be rolling out more of these, but you have
another good day scheduled for Roxburgh on the thirtieth, so
that'll be at the Roxburgh Hall. It's always going to
(34:39):
be a hot topic. I feel so good opportunity to
jump up there and learn a bit as we crack
into the drenching season of our MAM's new season Lambs.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
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Speaker 9 (34:55):
Clear yep, absolutely and jump on the website to have
a look at the events that are scheduled and to register.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
You're not a fan of Turkish delight when it comes
to the pick of mix, No, no, not for goodness sake,
I know fussy bugger, fussy bagger underrated. The Turkish delight
in the cherry ripe are much maligned and it's not fair.
Speaker 9 (35:17):
Keep it simple and andy, just a block of I
don't know. You get on my good side if you
brought me a Wittker's almond.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Gold actually arm and gold fickle.
Speaker 9 (35:25):
If you need a favor, just turn up with that,
be fine.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
If not, turn up with Turkish delight so you can
talk about the Turkish to light when you go to
the beef and lamb agem down at the brand new
building opposite the new pub by the bridge on State Highway.
Speaker 9 (35:38):
One, and you'll find me in the pub.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Right over. Clear or go well, I can always good
to chat. Clear Susenburgh once again beefwammd dot com slash
events to get the e Diary into your m box
every Friday. Residents Sporting Garry Nathan Burdon. He's up next
to says the master our Residents Spotting Gary Nathan Burdon
(36:10):
joins us once again on the muster and Nath's good afternoon.
The song is messaging a bottle, what do you reckon?
The message in the bottle will be from Rugby, Southland.
If somebody founded after this season.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Yeah, interesting question. It has been an interesting and interesting
old season. And I guess it's always a roller coaster
ride when you're when you're a Stags fan. But this
season in particular has dished up some incredible highs and
one in particular, but some but some pretty low lows
as well, hasn't it? And Yeah, it's just really hard
to I guess put a gauge on the whole season
(36:42):
because the disparity between what they were like when they
were when they were very good and what they were
like when they were very bad was just was a
very wide margin.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
They had three wins in a row to set up
the season. Unfortunately the next four games they conceded fifty
points in each of them. It just went from bad
to wes culbinating in that loss to a very average
North harves side, it has to be seid last week.
And I think the concern is when we look in
next season, they talk about keeping the squad together, but
this is South and you know, for a fact, let's
(37:12):
be honest, how many of those players will be back
down South next year compared to what we had this season.
The continuation from last year and it's just going to
I don't know what changes.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
I guess that's one of the frustrating factors, isn't it.
From going into this season and as we sort of
locked the head and planned and got excited about the
year head and you thought about those sort of an
increasing number of guys who were either playing at Super
rugby level or going over and playing Major League rugby
in the States. But at least we're getting some sort
(37:44):
of a professional you know, outing outside of the NPC,
and so we're training professionals. You know, they're in the
gym twelve months of the year. They were doing all
that good stuff. And the hope that sort of the
more we have with that stack, you know, the more
distant the Stags will be. But it just didn't come
to pass this year. And you know, you could you
(38:06):
can put your finger on on injuries. I think if
the Stags, the Stags at their best with their full
squad were more than competitive against against most of the
competition that they came up against this year, but they
just weren't able to put that that strongest fifteen or
twenty three out on the park often enough.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
It's initially that other teams face as well though, hence
you got a squad at twenty three. But what was
it the Stags save put up there on the tribune
forty players used throughout the year.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yeah, it might have been closer to closer to fifty two,
which was interesting as well the number two last year.
And I guess some key players and some key positions.
I think it's when you start getting hit and you know,
the front row was a great example, once you start
getting hit in the same position with multiple injuries, and
(38:55):
sort of hark back to Auckland at one stage were
down to their sixth tight hed prop. But this was
a kid who was in New Zealand under twenty representatives,
so you know, they had that depth that they could cover.
And obviously Aukland's not probably the best example because they
didn't have a data even worse season than we did,
didn't they, But you know, it just sort of goes
to show we don't obviously have the depth that we need.
(39:17):
I would love to it would be great to have
a golden run where the Stags did have limited injury
issues during the season, just to see where they're at
because well, obviously we know, you know, it was an
issue that was pinpointed by the coaches during the season
that when they have to go to the cupboard and
look at the likes of your South and Development, self
(39:38):
and country that sort of thing, they don't at the
moment have the faith that they can bring those guys
up to NPC level.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
When does it get to the stage that perhaps we
consider we are what we are as a rugby union
and perhaps Heartland comes into the equation. I'm not saying
do it, but do we just need to be realistic
at some stage perhaps given we've still got the support
regardless of what grade would play.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Yeah, it's a it's a it's a whoary old chestnut
that one, isn't it. And and it's an argument that's
been tossed tossed around backwards and forwards. And you know,
when I when I've looked back at Southam's rugby history,
We've we've just a province that we just don't sit
comfortably at either level. We're either up in first division
taking air licks or we're down in second division and
(40:22):
you know, and we're we're almost a bit of a
bully down in that competition. The I guess that the
siding factor for me is, you know, do we want
the Jack Taylor's of this world and the Shawn Withies
and and those sorts of guys. Do we want them
to be playing in a Maroon jersey and and hopefully
going on to higher honors while they're still in Southend?
Or are we happy for them to be going off
(40:43):
and playing for a Targo and Canterbury and and the
likes of you know, the de Wawson's of Justin Marshall's
following that sort of path as they as they did
in the olden days. Because if we stop being a
first division union, that's that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
And the rest thing you said Tigo only last year,
last years, actually they haven't been going to flash, but
all of a sudden the stars have aligned and well,
I've got to kind of take back the words I
said we won the Shield about us having a developmental
program up in Dunedin because it Taiga this year has
been the standout team and the competition.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Yeah, they have, and this is a team that is
not chopped full of superstars. You know, they they've got some,
they've got a handy amount of super rugby players. But
it's been it's been some of the guys that haven't
even played Super Rugby yet that have been real standouts
for that team. The coach Mark Brown has got them
absolutely cranking. And this was a team and I know,
(41:35):
you know, we sort of they managed to they won
Stag Day to kick their kick the competition off. But
when you when you looked at them early doors, you
never saw them as being a serious title contender. But gee,
you know, they finished the regular season with the Ranfrey
Shield locked up and every chance to go on and
actually win the competition. So there's you know, there's something
(41:57):
to be said that the coach, the people in that
team have been able to sort of squeeze everything out
of the talent that they've got. Great to see a
guy like Cam Miller, you know, really starting to hit
his straps in that number ten jersey and building his confidence.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Now the net Botney zelland Debarcer getting Dame Nolen Totro.
This goes from bad to worse for the organization.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
It's a it's just such a tough situation and such
a bad look for the sport at a time when
they when they know they needed some positive headlines. But
things were sort of morphed from some sort of a
performance or a culture issue and a bit of a
clash between players and the coaching staff into an employment issue,
(42:41):
and at that stage it all becomes very legal and
and and all very messy, doesn't it. And no one's
really sort of coming out of this thing with too
much credits, you know. I always sort of fall back
to the to the fact, you know, Dame Nolen Toto
would have to be one of the most respected figures
in the game, and you just sort of wonder whether
(43:01):
she's being treated fairly through this whole process. I guess
the answer that their is, you know, from the outside,
just feels like she hasn't been. And I think Nipple's
gone to self a bit of a disservice through the
whole thing.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
And you would have blamed Dane Noel Lane from walking
away from coaching the Silver Friends altogether, would you?
Speaker 3 (43:18):
No, absolutely not. And I think we sort of forget
just what a lonely position a coach, and especially a
coach at that level can be. You sort of think
of that the coach as being the sort of all
powerful figure, but at the end of the day, the
players have each other to lean on, and if a
coach doesn't have the support of the organization above her
or above them and around them, then they're just they're
(43:41):
just one person and they you know, you sort of
wonder who they have to who they have to lean
a shoulder to lean on. So you know, pretty pretty
tough position really.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Just finally, Reese Walsh, he won a premiership with the
Bristol Broncos. Not forgetting his with the worry is for
a year during the COVID era. But look, I've never
seen a guy on a rugby league field, or a
rugby field for that matter, possibly Janah Lomu, but seagull
handedly win a competition on his own the way that
the way that Reese Welsh did on Sunday night. That
was an unbelievable performance in the NRAL final.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
Yeah, and a guy who at a very at the
same time can be probably the most prodigiously talented rugby
league player on the planet but also the most polarizing.
You know, I watched very early on in that game
him making no arms, tackled it. In another sport he
would have been he would have been off with a
red card and you wouldn't have seen him again, probably
(44:34):
for six months. But for some reason in a grand
final sort of all bets are off, and then he
goes on to sort of, as you say, just just
take that game where the scruff of the neck and
basically win the broncos A title. So he's a very
talented player. He's only young, and he's going to be
making headlines for a long time.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Yet the guy just who's his talent and the way
that he did those tackles four or five try saving
tackles for goodness, say try assists. He's a guy whenever
he gets the ball, something is going to happen. That's
how good he is.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
Yeah, I read somewhere he's a like eighty eight telegrams.
Speaker 5 (45:07):
Ringing we you know.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
But the but the power as on both sides of
the ball is absolutely outstanding. And not a massively tall
bike either for you know, for a fallback, and obviously
rugby league still has a has an aerial aspect to
it as well. But yeah, just prodigiously.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Talented residents boorting Gary Nathan Brandan, always appreciate your.
Speaker 7 (45:27):
Time, lovely thanks mate.
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I'm Andy Muller. This has been the muster on hockinw
He used the Peters genelix during the afternoon. Loose sky, Hell,
good see you tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (46:05):
Hey, well all right, so he'll go there and what
are you going again?
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Stock selling action cam's courtesy of PGG Writes and Dave
Morrison giving us a rundown on prices from Charlton sale
Yards with a style occurred this morning diet I take
how do we go?
Speaker 7 (46:19):
Good?
Speaker 6 (46:19):
End?
Speaker 5 (46:19):
The looky big big guard in this morning, serving a
lot bigger than normal to start of the mist of
the lambs and the very big heavy lambes. Only three
hundreds the midium lanes anyway from sort of two twenty
to two fifty, with the bottom edge of the prime
names around it sort of one one sixty five, one seventy.
But Keen wants a very strong market. The end of
(46:41):
aboutoon six and Andy the best of us couple hundred
dollars hit death very heavy, US million, US having one
fifty to one sixty five, one seventy with the light
of condition news around that sort of ninety five and
fifteen dollars, A few rams in there today and the
best of the rams seventy five to twenty dollars lanes
ne'sary three or four lines of those in the UH,
(47:02):
and they arranged one twenty five to one thirty dollars
and UH and that wrapped it up, Andy and time
when all
Speaker 4 (47:08):
Needed investing, all fifty, didn't you
Good afternoon, and welcome to the muster on Hakanui. I
mean he merely here until two o'clock this afternoon, of course,
thanks to Peter's Genetics. Thanks for your company as we
see a little bit of sunshine over Main Street with
cloud on the horizon, but generally a mild afternoon, much
appreciated as well. We'll talk with it surely, but before
we go any further, if you're after a good book,
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This afternoon cloudy, we're breezing nor Westerlys and nineteen Friday sunny,
We're breezing or westerlyes five and eighteen. Saturday cloudy with
brisk north westerlyes nine and nineteen, Sunday showers of breezing
or westerly six and fourteen, and on Monday light ray
with westerly three and eleven. So temper just a hand.
Clinton nine point nine, Northern south of nine point eight,
(01:23):
Riverton ten point nine, tiann Now ten point three, Tea
at ten point two, Winton ten point three, Woodlands nine
point eight. So we start to show Jordy Yed farming
at Riverton. Jordi talks about this allion's vote that's coming
up in the next ten days or so. Jason Herick
a South con federated farmers. Has been a change of
(01:44):
approach between South and feeds and fishing game. Why is this?
Jason tows us. Nigel Wardhead Farming in South Otago catches
us this afternoon while out in the paddocks beef and
lambs Clear Totenberg is on the program and our residents
Sporting gury. Nathan Burdon reviews the stag season Dave Barrison
for PGG Rights and gives us a rundown on the
(02:06):
chaff and sale report. See how these prices are going
for these lambs and then we'll start the yurl. Jordi eyed,
you're listening to the muster until two o'clock, thinks to
Peters genetics.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Right right, Jordy, Red farms over at Riverton. It is
the river era of the South, and we catch up
once again. Jordy, good afternoon. How's the river year of
looking today?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Yeah, eighteen degrees, can't complain. I think saw Teams was
probably about twelve. I think if you set there you'd
probably see the grass growing.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Well.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
The sole temperature for Riverton use today was ten point five, which,
in the scheme of things, was pretty darn good.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Yeah, it was probably about that a month ago, though.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Weren't we just going around in circles? You reckon at
the moment, we just need to try and find that
exit that brings a big yellow out for ten days,
or say.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Yeah and get rid of a sideways rain. It's just
sort of driven me nuts, really. You know, we had
two eight eight mills for September. We had about seventy
mills either side of the August and guinea of October,
so we've had four hundred mills and forty days. Yeah,
the forty days, forty nights. It's nearly an ARC, nearly
an arc being built.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
See it sounds like it, Nolly, you have all the
animals lining up in no time. But I think it's
fair to say your rainfall is pretty much where it
needs to be, probably over it for the time of year. Yeah, yeah,
no it is.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
But in saying that, it has been better than last year,
probably because we had a drier starts and I think
probably had more grass covers the user and a neck
so you know, lamb desk Telly's down well over one
hundred sort about one hundred and fifty lambs less, So
that's the positive side, I suppose. And we didn't have
a lot of mothering up. The hogwits are lambing now
and they took along pretty well. I fed them pretty
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well through the year, so that took along pretty well.
We just down to the last sort of sixty of them.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Have your tailed yet, no, we sort.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Of tail probably about the end bound labor weekendish and
we drenched them, give them that first drench on mums
and then we sort of finish off the rest of
the mess house. So it sort of ties in pretty good.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
So your feel will be looking pretty tight.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
Is it.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Oh, not bad, because we're a wee bit understocked with
the cows coming and going and the grass. So yeah,
it's I don't know how I'd done it when I
was fully stopped, because I'm moving everything a to be here,
to see to d just to try and keep plenty
of feed because it's a pretty critical part time right
now with that milk and off mum into those lambs.
And I mean, it's certainly something we couldn't do last year,
and it's sure enough and we come to winning those
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lambs weren't there because of the October again, so crap.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
So the Alliance Greek road Shows, Jordi, we'll touch on
this because it's pretty relevant with the big vote happening
on October the twentieth and Umbicagoo. Regarding the reset and
recapitalization of the cooperative, it's almost like the Dragon's den.
But the meat industry addition, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
It is, it is, it is, And I you know,
the frustrating about for them, in my personal opinion is
it hasn't. It's not addressing anything that's wrong with the industry,
you know, it's it's just like a band aid and
keep on back to work on Monday. We just hope
that this will see what the problem is.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
But it doesn't interesting speaking to a lot of farmers though,
to be honest, especially at the meeting and good last
week Jordie, and they're resigned to the fact that whether
they wanted this to occur or not, they needed to
support it because the elt the other side of the
coin wasn't worth contemplating.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Yeah, or the other side of the corn. We don't
really know what the other side of the coin was.
It's the trouble. You know, we're sort of being lead
to believe that this is the one and only option.
But for what I have understand is the Lions have
been in the worst equity position in the earlier years.
And you know, the sentiment in my area here is
where we were probably ten years ago. Most of us
were platinum suppliers Alliance. A lot of them have moved
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supply in the last five years, but we still all
have a lot of equity in the company. So not
that we don't supply them, we still have a lot
of equity, and so we're concerned.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
And I would have.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Seen the areare here, a lot of people were against it,
but you know, I have obviously even moved far in
the last month or six weeks to know the truth
and what's happening around the rest of the problems.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
So the majority of the people around your neck of
the woods, they're against us going through and they're going
to vote accordingly.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yes, yes, from what I understand, I mean my group
chats and whatnot. I mean, it's just it just does.
It's not dealing with the absolute problems of the industry,
you know, Like I mean, in my opinion, I would
love to those two big meat companies to get in
the room and do some rationalization and come to an agreement.
And you know, we supply a milk to Fonterra. Now
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they're the you know all over the countryside, and I mean,
you know they they burn some bridges. But you know
that big cooperative seems to work, and it's worked really well,
as I've proved it well.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
You look at Frontierra, you look at Open Country as well,
two business models that are going great guns. And they
talked about it back in twenty fifteen. I think it
was about a super amalgamation between Alliance and silverfar and
Farms at the time before Shanghai mailing got involves and
Vold of Silverfa and Farms. Have we missed the boat
on that though? Are we too far down the track
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to get the brains into the room and to clash
out at an idea?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yeah we could.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Well, I'd like to hope that we're not. But I
would think we're probably at a point now that there's
surely not going to be much more of a diminishing
and lamb meat the volume, and surely we can there
still some brains there. And I mean, you know, money,
money plays a big difference, you know, if we're getting
you know, not, I'd like to love nine dollars plus
maybe ten dollars plus for kilo for lamb meat. You know,
(07:36):
that's that's great, And I mean that starts talking a
few other ideas in the room.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Then surely would it be a different situation if the
land price is down around say six dollars fifty seven
dollars a kilo, a lot we've experienced not that long ago, Yes, it.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Would be yeah, yeah, no, definitely, And I mean I
don't think we need to be in that territory again,
and I mean, you know, the industry knows that. But
if it comes back to there, you know, I think
probably to a certain extent. That's why those forestry conversions
have really taken off. And I mean, and you know
there's a bit of hope and wall, you know in
all this hope, but you know what's around the corner?
Are we going to have to give anesthetic to our
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lambs at tailing? And I mean, in my opinion on
our personal fam the only reason I tail is because
of wall. So that could be the real good night
nurse for the ball with that if we go to have.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
To go down that path a different tass. It's mental
health Awareness Week, Jordie. Let you say we're getting through
the bum's rush off September slash October gradually. What do
you do as far as a reset? Do you like
go for a run or anything like that. You're pretty
fit in your rugby days. Do you still take a
ball out and have a cack or what do you
do when you pass that the lan's not coping?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah, I'd love. I bought a new bike at this
time last year, have great intentions again and use it.
And I mean I still haven't allocated at the time.
But it's funny en after the last two weeks, my
wife's got me in the jigsaw puzzles. So at night
doing jigsaw puzzles, these real back to front ones where
you don't actually know what you're doing, and they actually,
you know, the actually has taken not only your mind
(09:03):
off what you're doing, but also stopped you're looking at
your phone.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
One thing about jigsaw puzzles and this is just me.
I can't understand why you just rip everything apart having
to put it together again for no apparent reason.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah, we've had our cat who's wholly around the lounge
and he's wrecked it twice the last time I've been
doing so Yeah, that sort of ruins the you know,
the will to what about it put all back together again.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
They just finally been. The boss was talking to me
from Workland the other day. He was asking me about Riverton.
He goes, what's Riverton Like he's thirty seconds sell rivertson
to be in the bus in Auckland.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Being born and bred in Riverton. That I would have
to be positive is that most of the time it's
a great place to be sitting there. And I mean
on a good day in the summer, I homebreck and
there's probably an area in south and that beats it.
It's just you got to put up with that sour
West occasionally. But you know, everything Ribbon's got anything going
for it. I grew up there. A lot of people
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migrated away from there for the end of the nineties,
but hell that over the summer. Now it's just back.
And you know, as soon as if we get a
bit of eight, I can't promote it anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Well, there you go. And it's called the River Era
of the South for a particular reason. Jordy, he'd always
appreciate your time on the Muster. Good Jordy reed from
the River Era of the South. That is Reverendson Jason
eric is South con Federal South Confederated Farmers. Get that
out right, he's up next. You're listening to the Muster.
(10:52):
Welcome back to the Muster, Jason Herrick as president of
South con Federated Farmers. Jason, Good afternoon. Finally we're having
a couple of days of warmer or warmish weather.
Speaker 8 (11:04):
Yeah, isn't it delightful any when the sun comes out
and the warms up a bit. That sort of lifts
the morale of a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Didn't it.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
It's basically been just a frustrating spring yet again after
what has been a pretty good winter unfortunately, as I've
talked about.
Speaker 8 (11:16):
Yeah, it sort of a rinse and repeat from last year,
isn't it. And I know there's a lot of farmers
out there frustrated at the moment about the amount of
moisture that's fallen and in the constant bearrage of the
old hailstorm and a few snow flurries coming through and
call the temperatures. But you know, it is spring and
at the end of the day, we've got to look
to the future and the sun will come out on
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another day. But weather like this that improves, it definitely
lifts the morale of farmers out there.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
That's so.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, welcome to life in South and now fishing game.
There sounds as though there's been some headway me between
yourself and the organization. You've gone hard on South and
fishing game over the last twelve months, but there's been
a bit of a breakthrough there. I don't think I've
spoken to you about that since with other matters arising,
but certainly this sounds like a positive between the two organizations.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (12:06):
Absolutely, so we're getting we're getting, you know, closer to
the end now of what we were asking the Minister
to do. But with the Southern fishing Game, they've come
and leaps and bounds, and with Dave McGregor had taking
over the chairmanships doing a really good job there and
being very communicative and very transparent and open to conversation.
And we're not always going to agree on things, but
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at the end of the day, he's open to have
those conversations and we are talking and getting a little
bit more clarity, and we're going to see some of
that result this month with the government introducing the new
Bill and legislation for fishing Game into the House. They
told us that that's happening this month, which will pull
them out of the Conservation Order, away from DOC and
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have its own legislation, and there's a lot of changes
that's going to be happening in there, and I'll be
really keen to see how far they're actually going to go.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
You are calling for fishing game to be stripped of
their advocacy powers. Do you stand by that?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (13:02):
Yeah, absolutely, I still stand by that. At the end
of the day, they don't have a mandate from hunters
and fishes.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
To actually act on their behalf.
Speaker 8 (13:11):
When you look at the results from there, their council
elections from year and year out and the last election,
I think it was four percent of their license holders
turned out the vote, so that really doesn't give them
a clear mandate to represent hundreds of fishes on the
advocacy front. So yeah, definitely definitely standing behind that.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Four percent is still four percents on democratic process. So Jason,
they got given the opportunity, ninety six percent of people didn't.
Speaker 8 (13:36):
Absolutely, but there's ninety six percent a lot of them
will realized they actually don't know. They don't realize they
can vote, and it's part of the process that's been
in the past that if you wanted a vote in
your next election, you have to ticket tick that box
on the license of the year of the elections that
you want to be a voting party in that most.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
People actually don't realize that's there.
Speaker 8 (13:54):
And I do understand that that might be one of
the changes that's coming in the new legislation that if
you become a license told, you automatically get the right
to vote. You don't need to worry about ticking that
box anymore. So, yeah, it'll be interesting to see where
that all ends.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
So nothing else the last twelve months has brought a
lot of awareness around what Southern Fishing Game does.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
I suppose absolutely, and also what they were creating in
the ways of cost of farmers and cost of the
royal sector and cost of ratepayers by challenging everything in
court all the time and trying to express their advocacy function,
you know, So that it's definitely brought a lot of
light and a lot of attention around that and people
are more aware as to what was going on there now. Yeah,
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and hopefully we can we're looking to a better future
in that regard.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Do you find it a bit of a coincidence of
Karena Jordan's come back in as interim Fishing Game Chief Executive?
Speaker 8 (14:46):
Look, I think Korean has come back in asn interim
CEO because she's she's got the experience there and right
now they're in a bit of a limbo that don't
know where the organizations organization is actually going to sit
in the next twelve months. So that's probably why that
they did bring someone like to rend It back in
just to oversee this next transitional phase and so they
know exactly where they're going to be into the future,
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so then they can look for the appropriate cease, you know,
to guide them into the future with once they know
where this new legislation lands for them.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
So as far as this fishing boycott that occurred twelve
months ago, that's no longer on the cards.
Speaker 8 (15:23):
Yeah, So we've called the boycott off now and calling
a truce with fishing games South and you know, if
they move back into what they were doing before, then
it'll be it'll be kind of bad for them if
we have.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
To call for another boycott.
Speaker 8 (15:37):
But I don't think that's going to happen, not under
Dave's watch, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
So.
Speaker 8 (15:40):
Yeah, let's just what's the space to see where it goes,
and we're developing that relationship as we go.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yes, something that's good for mental health. There's a touch
of fishing for a lot of people now mental Health
Awareness Week. It's a big topic for a lot of
farmers at the moment, just trying to decipher the top
three inches after what we've had getting through landing and carving. Jason,
you're pretty well qualified to speak about this.
Speaker 8 (16:03):
Yeah, So this is why I do what I do
now and why I joined Feed's was because of my
mental health struggles that I've had in the past, Andy,
and and you know, I'm very forthcoming about my experiences
in that in that field, and you know, especially this
time of year when you're in the in the peak
of carving, starting to prepare for mating, and the sheep
farmers are out there, you know, just beginning their landing
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in a lot of parts of South and or just
coming to the end in some parts as well. And
the stresses of the weather, the constant baroers of legislation
and regulation and red tape and and and not knowing
what's coming at you, you know, And to be honest,
I was one of those farmers that really got stuck
in the epathy phase where you just stick ahead in
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the seand and hope it's all going to go away
and someone else is going to deal with it, and you.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
End up putting your head further and further in.
Speaker 8 (16:50):
That sand to the point where that you're drowning. And
you know that's not a good thing. So Mental Health
Awareness Week is always bringing that awareness to your own
mental health and the top branches and making sure that
you're actually are putting that at the forefront of your
thought pattern and knowing that there are things and organizations
out there to help you get through tough times.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
You know, I spoke to Catherine right on the subject
yesterday about farmers recognizing their mental health and no longer
being a stigma about not feeling okay. Do you think
that's right?
Speaker 8 (17:24):
Absolutely correct. I've got a lot of time for Catherine,
and in fact I was part of her study and
her thesis for her qualification at university, and so I've
been working quite a bit with Kevin over the last
few number of years. And yeah, she's definitely heading in
the right direction and I've got a lot of time
for her. And when she speaks, I think everybody should listen.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Just finally, rather poignant considering what we've been talking over
the last couple of months. But this is about democracy,
getting out there and making your vote count in the
local body elections uptake so far as pretty small, yes.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
It is.
Speaker 8 (17:58):
I encourage everybody, if you've got the charge to vote,
go get in and vote and actually make your voice heard.
This is how we form our local governments into the
next three years, right, So the regional Council absolute pertinent
that we get the right council around the table.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
So if you haven't voted.
Speaker 8 (18:15):
You get out there and vote, stand up and be counted,
and don't think for one minute that your vote won't
won't make a difference. It actually does, especially when you're
talking about numbers. And at the moment we're floating in
the twenty percent range of people actually out and vote
out of the you know, out of everyone that can vote,
and that's pretty before. We need to get that well
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up into the into the seventies and eighties. If not
as closer to one hundred, the better.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Good Only Jason, always appreciate your time.
Speaker 8 (18:43):
Welcome and I have a great halfnoon.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
But Jason Erick are South Confederated Farmers. This is the muster. Next,
were a way to South Totigo. Let's have a chin
wag with Nigel Woodhead. This is the Muster. The music
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as the Police. That song there do Doo Doo doo
de Da Da da song from yester year. Nonetheless, but
great tunes for a Thursday afternoon that sees the sun
out here over Main Street and Gore. We catch up
next with Nogere wood Head farming in South Totago between
Bealcloth and Milton Gidde.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Night.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
Yeah, afternoon, Andy.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
How's everything looking in your neck of the woods.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
Oh we took along right now. Yeah, although another day
like you, so it would be nice. It's quite cool
up here, cold breeze here, but yes, it's good to
see that we're the sort of starting to settle down
a bit and warm up. Yeah, we need it.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
How have you been faring over the past couple of weeks?
So I likes of this rainfall. We're hearing certain rainfall
figures around south and anyway being above normal. What have
you guys had.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
I couldn't tell you how it compares to normal, but
i'd i'd like that. Wow, I do assume it's about normal. Yeah,
I've heard a few people sort of say, oh these
are these are good old seth Taga springs where it's
not real settled until until the middle of October. So yeah,
I just think it's normal. Usually we're going to start well,
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I think we're tailing on Saturday and again coming on Saturday,
and it usually starts blowing about when you start boxing
up for tailing. So yeah, that's it's a it's breezy.
I wouldn't call it window. It's just breezy here today.
So that's just what did you get in this time
of year. But yeah, like we had what did we
get sort of fifty five meals or fifty odd meals
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out of there easterly on the weekend, and you know
there was a bit miserable.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
It wasn't much fun.
Speaker 7 (20:43):
It was interesting. Dead, Yeah, dead is here most days.
He didn't come on the weekend obviously with the with
the rubbish weather and come for a look on Monday
and see where's all your grass gone? Like he could
see a difference in three days and pasture covers just
three cold, wet days. So yeah, hopefully war up and
we can build some build some grass around us.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Again. We catch you out in your field literally you
got sounds like you've got some balls around your other life.
What's the picture you got in front of you.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
I'm trying to hide behind a tree line at the
moment to keep out of the wind for here. But
and these marble balls that have just come up to
the fence to say hello. So yeah, if you're lucky,
you might hear my heating dog decide that she's had
enough of them and give them a tune up because
she she's got that look in her eye. But yeah,
so we the balls came off for the beat. The
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air probably won't be three weeks ago, two weeks ago,
and they're on rotation, so just split them up in
the bobst Sorry someone trying to ring me, and yeah,
they're on rotation now. So these guys are These guys
are on Italian rye grass. So they took along pretty good,
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which is yes, it's good. Heaven got a food stick
up in front of kettle.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
So the beat's all over and done with. Just to
got you just need to get the iron horse out
in about some stage.
Speaker 7 (22:01):
Yeah, so I head dead on the track there. Last
week at here we got all the crop petits. He's
been over there with the earraid it so that we've
lifted them all half and opened them up. And yeah,
well we'll get in. I'll probably the one I'm standing
right the side one and there'll go and barley and
pease for signage. Actually, so I'm sort of hoping we
can wipe able to get down in next week after
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where the stays are up. The ground tep is still
pretty cold, so I was sort of hoping to have
some seeds in the ground by now, but I haven't
rushed because the ground temper is still cool. Enough, and
you know there's barley and peas are we first to
go in? And then then there's a heap of carl
and plantains, so that I'm not going to not going
to rush too much on the carl and plantain because
you need it to get out of the ground and grow.
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So that's all reliant on sore temperature.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
And it So how many years lift the land would
you say? You must be pretty well through it.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
Then oh, yeah, we're about about dunderby fear. There's a
handful heart it's thirty or forty hobbits to go, and.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Well, there we go.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
I've just hit enough thirty forty habits to go and
I think I had one hundred and sixty lights and
there's probably half to a third of them to go,
So yeah, not not many to be fear Like, I
say that the gang coming on Saturday to tail or
the first cycle, so good, we'll get hopefully get a
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couple of thousand and a thousand lambs tailed on Saturday
and get the bark of that done, which will be good.
So I'm sitting in the middle of just shoffing if
you're using lambs around, starting to box up for that,
and then we have a big day tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
So as far as your hogg it lambing though, it's
gone as expected, not a lot of assistance required.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
I haven't touched one yet.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
Well that's bad, but to be fair, I only I
will have to admit I've only got fifty five or something. Then,
I just because I cocked up my yulem management in
the spring and in the summer and didn't have anywhere
here as many heavy enough to go to the room
as I wanted, so and I bought some bought some
rams to go over my hoggot. So I thought I've
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bought these leams to put something, put them over something.
So I just threw the fifty hebeous out with the rems.
So they're looking good. They you know, they're getting their
lambs born pretty well. The couple a couple went down
in the in the weekend. A couple of limbs have
killed and it easily in the weekend. But by and
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large they're they're lemming them well and the survivals good.
Lemb weight, birth weight seems to be really good. And
they took along pretty good. So yeah, it's yeah to
be fear when there's only fifty of them. It only
takes ten minutes to zipround five minutes zip around a
couple of pets, and that's that's not particularly a street sport.
It's good.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
That's a great thing about this time with you. You
can give yourself a little bit of a reset, having
got through the struggles of September and let you say,
a few hoggarts to go, but you can start looking
forward to the rest of the year for a bit
more certainty. It's always good to get through that September period, right, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
Yeah, we're out the other side now, and you know
the lambs that are here, yea, the lambs there we've gone,
are pretty much all on the ground now essentially. So
I always look forward to tailing because, yeah, then you
get a picture of where things are out for the
next year, and you can put a bit more accurate
budget on numbers, and or a bit more accurate number
and your budget for how many lambs you're going to have,
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and yeah, getting a few gates open after tailing, so
that's a bit more stress free with the stock and
hopefully it warms up and and the lambs just start growing.
So yeah, like even this past week has been pretty cruizy,
really good and I've been able to get some other
jobs done, you know, pittch up a few fences and
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get some jobs done they haven't been Yeah, it didn't
get done over the winter. And it's a lot more
pleasant to do them now than in the middle of
the winter.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
You know. So does Mental Health Awareness Week noise? Do
you just do anything outside of the square to keep
yourself saying in the top three inches?
Speaker 7 (25:55):
Big thing for me over the last a few years
going to the gym couple of times a week. So
Tuesday night and Thursday night I go to a gym
class in Milton and it's you know, mix of people there,
from transport operators to a few farmers, a real estate agent,
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but to just people from all over the show and
skip our gym then just puts us through the ringer
for an hour and it's good, Like it really keeps
on the straight and narrow, and there's a fair bit
of venture and almost verging on abuse goes on between
us all. But that's what it's all about. We're all
really really good friends and get on really well. I
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look forward to that. So it's amazing. You Sometimes you
get busy with meetings and family and farm and things
and you don't get to the gym for a couple
of weeks and you walk out the door treading what's
about to come. But you definitely feel a lot better
out the other side of having a good blowout. And
on a Thursday night we sit around afterwards and E
A B here it's good. So they're definitely, yeah, that
(27:01):
definitely kicks me on the straight and arrow and I
can definitely feel it and myself we I haven't been
for a while, both the fitness side of it and
also that sort of yeah, compelling yarning yarning to the
crew because we all get on pretty well, you know,
can only.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Lia leave it there all the all the best of
those balls in the background.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
It's no host us Andy.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Niger Wood here in South Otago plus a dog and
a couple of balls as well put a background noise.
Nothing wrong with that. Claire Suvesenburg from Beef from their
New Zealand's up next and before the end of the hour,
our residents sporting guru Nathan Burden.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
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Speaker 1 (27:54):
Claire Susanburg from beef and Lair, New Zealand joins us
this afternoon on the muster clear good afternoon. Goodness, see
a bit of sunshine about in the Deep South.
Speaker 9 (28:02):
It's great, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
What a change.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
We'll enjoy it while we can.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Where there. It's like a box of chocolates you could have.
I don't know. You get a caramel nougat one moment,
the next minute you moved on to the peppermint cream.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
I don't like either of those, so.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I'll make a point. I'm not buying you roses anytime soon. Then,
you fussy bugger, no chocolate any AGM. We talked about
it last week regarding what was going on. They're happening
next week in bowcleuth A though, just a further reminder,
Yeah we have so.
Speaker 9 (28:36):
Next Tuesday, the fourteenth, we've got our AGM that's going
to be held in Balclutha. And if I said to
you Andy, it's at the Closer District War Memorial and
Community Center, would you.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
Know where that is?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I would actually say it's on the brand new building
opposite the new Puppet's about to open down by the
bridge at the far end of town on State by
Way one.
Speaker 9 (28:57):
Yeah, yeah, I think more people would know where it
is if I just see it. It's the fancy new
building just before the bridge as you're heading north. So
that's where we're having our AGM this year.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
That's how I found it. Took me years. Been living
in Gore, been here coming up seven years, you just
knew everything was by landmarks.
Speaker 9 (29:16):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, so no fancy building, so we'll utilize that.
Speaker 8 (29:22):
See what it's like.
Speaker 9 (29:23):
I haven't actually been there myself. So that's running from
one thirty till four thirty. We've we've got obviously the
team from down here with our directors due for young
Chair Met McCrae, Vice Matt Taylor, and then we've also
got Kate Ecklinn coming down as well, so it'd be
really good to hear from Kate from a national perspective
(29:46):
about what Beef and me are up to. And we've
also got Philmunt Morrison coming in to give a just
a bit of a chat around what he does is
the Kalovs Real Leader facilitator. He's got a really interesting
background being in the army, so that'll be good to
get to know a bit about him as well.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
So once again the details around the AGM and do
people need to register?
Speaker 9 (30:11):
Yeah, so jomh online to register. That's more for cattering
purposes than anything, but good to know who's coming. But yeah,
Tuesday the fourteenth, one point in the fancy new building
on the left going over the bridge.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
All chances are for catering. You're going to go to
that new pub opposite the new building down by the bridge. Yes,
well I might but yeah, no judgment. Yes, focus groups
they're all that's all about the now.
Speaker 9 (30:40):
Yeah, so we've got now we've got six focus groups
in Southam. I have to say it's it is a
bit of bit to get my head around six different topics.
But the most recent one was yesterday we had a
focus group around growing your people, growing your business. So
that's a new one that's come together collaborating with number
(31:02):
eight HR. That's been a really good There was a
really good day use today looking at there was more
of it. It was an introductory session and we looked
at motivation engagements, setting some KPIs and benchmarking around how
we're going to measure our progress as we work together
as a group over the next twelve months. But one
(31:23):
thing that was really noticed within our delivery is we
do a lot of workshops, a lot of field days
and things around product production, and now we're looking at
exploring more you know, those soft skills around people management,
but also looking at how we can support people coming
into the industry and progressing through a pretty clear pathway.
(31:46):
So yeah, it was a really good day and I'm
excited to keep that.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Group going a better ram buying day not far away
from the ram selling season, dare or say we've just
gone through landing, but the circle starts again.
Speaker 9 (32:00):
Yeah, So something that I could talk about all day.
Genetics ram buying. I mean, it's an investment that's sort
of kicks off in November, depending where you buy your rams.
Obviously North Island a bit sooner than the South. But
we've got to be in a ram by and field
day up at Nisteale station, so Nicstale obviously breathe themselves
(32:23):
Nostlee Genetics, and that is going to be on Friday,
the thirty first of October. So I've gone in there
and juggled up the day juggled up we would normally
do in a delivery workshop and have changed it around
to be a really practical hands on session So for
this particular day, we're going to have both maternal and
terminal rams in the woolshed. We're going to be talking
(32:45):
a lot around the like just the importance of actually
understanding the figures that are putting that are put in
front of you, and you know how you can actually
decipher what that means to you in terms of the
bottom line, how to select for your meat, how to
select for your growth, and what that actually means to
your business. One of the real key points that come
(33:08):
out of the field day is the importance of ensuring
that you're really clear around what your breeding objective is.
So it's being able to assess your performance on farms
and come away and see where the gaps or opportunities
lie in terms of genetics.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
So really.
Speaker 9 (33:28):
You know key skills there and how to go and
get the most out of your out of your rams
and what you're doing. So I'm excited for that day.
We also look at obviously selecting utilizing the improved tool,
and I've got a local vet coming up to also
talk about how to look after your rams from an
(33:50):
animal health perspective. More often than that we can be
prone to slapping them in the forestry block or in
the dog tarkipedict sometimes and your most expensive and more
on farm it's probably not the best way to manage them.
So we do talk about how to look after your
rams so that you know they are really going to
do the job that you want them to do.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Absolutely, and as well the where a Wise workshops they continue.
Speaker 9 (34:15):
Yes, so we've got on Thursday the thirtieth is a
we Wise workshop schedule to happen up in Roxburgh. Certainly
will be rolling out more of these, but you have
another good day scheduled for Roxburgh on the thirtieth, so
that'll be at the Roxburgh Hall. It's always going to
(34:39):
be a hot topic. I feel so good opportunity to
jump up there and learn a bit as we crack
into the drenching season of our MAM's new season Lambs.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
B flam is it dot com slash events to get
the e Diary in your inbox every Friday as well.
Speaker 9 (34:55):
Clear yep, absolutely and jump on the website to have
a look at the events that are scheduled and to register.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
You're not a fan of Turkish delight when it comes
to the pick of mix, No, no, not for goodness sake,
I know fussy bugger, fussy bagger underrated. The Turkish delight
in the cherry ripe are much maligned and it's not fair.
Speaker 9 (35:17):
Keep it simple and andy, just a block of I
don't know. You get on my good side if you
brought me a Wittker's almond.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Gold actually arm and gold fickle.
Speaker 9 (35:25):
If you need a favor, just turn up with that,
be fine.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
If not, turn up with Turkish delight so you can
talk about the Turkish to light when you go to
the beef and lamb agem down at the brand new
building opposite the new pub by the bridge on State Highway.
Speaker 9 (35:38):
One, and you'll find me in the pub.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Right over. Clear or go well, I can always good
to chat. Clear Susenburgh once again beefwammd dot com slash
events to get the e Diary into your m box
every Friday. Residents Sporting Garry Nathan Burdon. He's up next
to says the master our Residents Spotting Gary Nathan Burdon
(36:10):
joins us once again on the muster and Nath's good afternoon.
The song is messaging a bottle, what do you reckon?
The message in the bottle will be from Rugby, Southland.
If somebody founded after this season.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Yeah, interesting question. It has been an interesting and interesting
old season. And I guess it's always a roller coaster
ride when you're when you're a Stags fan. But this
season in particular has dished up some incredible highs and
one in particular, but some but some pretty low lows
as well, hasn't it? And Yeah, it's just really hard
to I guess put a gauge on the whole season
(36:42):
because the disparity between what they were like when they
were when they were very good and what they were
like when they were very bad was just was a
very wide margin.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
They had three wins in a row to set up
the season. Unfortunately the next four games they conceded fifty
points in each of them. It just went from bad
to wes culbinating in that loss to a very average
North harves side, it has to be seid last week.
And I think the concern is when we look in
next season, they talk about keeping the squad together, but
this is South and you know, for a fact, let's
(37:12):
be honest, how many of those players will be back
down South next year compared to what we had this season.
The continuation from last year and it's just going to
I don't know what changes.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
I guess that's one of the frustrating factors, isn't it.
From going into this season and as we sort of
locked the head and planned and got excited about the
year head and you thought about those sort of an
increasing number of guys who were either playing at Super
rugby level or going over and playing Major League rugby
in the States. But at least we're getting some sort
(37:44):
of a professional you know, outing outside of the NPC,
and so we're training professionals. You know, they're in the
gym twelve months of the year. They were doing all
that good stuff. And the hope that sort of the
more we have with that stack, you know, the more
distant the Stags will be. But it just didn't come
to pass this year. And you know, you could you
(38:06):
can put your finger on on injuries. I think if
the Stags, the Stags at their best with their full
squad were more than competitive against against most of the
competition that they came up against this year, but they
just weren't able to put that that strongest fifteen or
twenty three out on the park often enough.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
It's initially that other teams face as well though, hence
you got a squad at twenty three. But what was
it the Stags save put up there on the tribune
forty players used throughout the year.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yeah, it might have been closer to closer to fifty two,
which was interesting as well the number two last year.
And I guess some key players and some key positions.
I think it's when you start getting hit and you know,
the front row was a great example, once you start
getting hit in the same position with multiple injuries, and
(38:55):
sort of hark back to Auckland at one stage were
down to their sixth tight hed prop. But this was
a kid who was in New Zealand under twenty representatives,
so you know, they had that depth that they could cover.
And obviously Aukland's not probably the best example because they
didn't have a data even worse season than we did,
didn't they, But you know, it just sort of goes
to show we don't obviously have the depth that we need.
(39:17):
I would love to it would be great to have
a golden run where the Stags did have limited injury
issues during the season, just to see where they're at
because well, obviously we know, you know, it was an
issue that was pinpointed by the coaches during the season
that when they have to go to the cupboard and
look at the likes of your South and Development, self
(39:38):
and country that sort of thing, they don't at the
moment have the faith that they can bring those guys
up to NPC level.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
When does it get to the stage that perhaps we
consider we are what we are as a rugby union
and perhaps Heartland comes into the equation. I'm not saying
do it, but do we just need to be realistic
at some stage perhaps given we've still got the support
regardless of what grade would play.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Yeah, it's a it's a it's a whoary old chestnut
that one, isn't it. And and it's an argument that's
been tossed tossed around backwards and forwards. And you know,
when I when I've looked back at Southam's rugby history,
We've we've just a province that we just don't sit
comfortably at either level. We're either up in first division
taking air licks or we're down in second division and
(40:22):
you know, and we're we're almost a bit of a
bully down in that competition. The I guess that the
siding factor for me is, you know, do we want
the Jack Taylor's of this world and the Shawn Withies
and and those sorts of guys. Do we want them
to be playing in a Maroon jersey and and hopefully
going on to higher honors while they're still in Southend?
Or are we happy for them to be going off
(40:43):
and playing for a Targo and Canterbury and and the
likes of you know, the de Wawson's of Justin Marshall's
following that sort of path as they as they did
in the olden days. Because if we stop being a
first division union, that's that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
And the rest thing you said Tigo only last year,
last years, actually they haven't been going to flash, but
all of a sudden the stars have aligned and well,
I've got to kind of take back the words I
said we won the Shield about us having a developmental
program up in Dunedin because it Taiga this year has
been the standout team and the competition.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Yeah, they have, and this is a team that is
not chopped full of superstars. You know, they they've got some,
they've got a handy amount of super rugby players. But
it's been it's been some of the guys that haven't
even played Super Rugby yet that have been real standouts
for that team. The coach Mark Brown has got them
absolutely cranking. And this was a team and I know,
(41:35):
you know, we sort of they managed to they won
Stag Day to kick their kick the competition off. But
when you when you looked at them early doors, you
never saw them as being a serious title contender. But gee,
you know, they finished the regular season with the Ranfrey
Shield locked up and every chance to go on and
actually win the competition. So there's you know, there's something
(41:57):
to be said that the coach, the people in that
team have been able to sort of squeeze everything out
of the talent that they've got. Great to see a
guy like Cam Miller, you know, really starting to hit
his straps in that number ten jersey and building his confidence.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Now the net Botney zelland Debarcer getting Dame Nolen Totro.
This goes from bad to worse for the organization.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
It's a it's just such a tough situation and such
a bad look for the sport at a time when
they when they know they needed some positive headlines. But
things were sort of morphed from some sort of a
performance or a culture issue and a bit of a
clash between players and the coaching staff into an employment issue,
(42:41):
and at that stage it all becomes very legal and
and and all very messy, doesn't it. And no one's
really sort of coming out of this thing with too
much credits, you know. I always sort of fall back
to the to the fact, you know, Dame Nolen Toto
would have to be one of the most respected figures
in the game, and you just sort of wonder whether
(43:01):
she's being treated fairly through this whole process. I guess
the answer that their is, you know, from the outside,
just feels like she hasn't been. And I think Nipple's
gone to self a bit of a disservice through the
whole thing.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
And you would have blamed Dane Noel Lane from walking
away from coaching the Silver Friends altogether, would you?
Speaker 3 (43:18):
No, absolutely not. And I think we sort of forget
just what a lonely position a coach, and especially a
coach at that level can be. You sort of think
of that the coach as being the sort of all
powerful figure, but at the end of the day, the
players have each other to lean on, and if a
coach doesn't have the support of the organization above her
or above them and around them, then they're just they're
(43:41):
just one person and they you know, you sort of
wonder who they have to who they have to lean
a shoulder to lean on. So you know, pretty pretty
tough position really.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Just finally, Reese Walsh, he won a premiership with the
Bristol Broncos. Not forgetting his with the worry is for
a year during the COVID era. But look, I've never
seen a guy on a rugby league field, or a
rugby field for that matter, possibly Janah Lomu, but seagull
handedly win a competition on his own the way that
the way that Reese Welsh did on Sunday night. That
was an unbelievable performance in the NRAL final.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
Yeah, and a guy who at a very at the
same time can be probably the most prodigiously talented rugby
league player on the planet but also the most polarizing.
You know, I watched very early on in that game
him making no arms, tackled it. In another sport he
would have been he would have been off with a
red card and you wouldn't have seen him again, probably
(44:34):
for six months. But for some reason in a grand
final sort of all bets are off, and then he
goes on to sort of, as you say, just just
take that game where the scruff of the neck and
basically win the broncos A title. So he's a very
talented player. He's only young, and he's going to be
making headlines for a long time.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Yet the guy just who's his talent and the way
that he did those tackles four or five try saving
tackles for goodness, say try assists. He's a guy whenever
he gets the ball, something is going to happen. That's
how good he is.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
Yeah, I read somewhere he's a like eighty eight telegrams.
Speaker 5 (45:07):
Ringing we you know.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
But the but the power as on both sides of
the ball is absolutely outstanding. And not a massively tall
bike either for you know, for a fallback, and obviously
rugby league still has a has an aerial aspect to
it as well. But yeah, just prodigiously.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Talented residents boorting Gary Nathan Brandan, always appreciate your.
Speaker 7 (45:27):
Time, lovely thanks mate.
Speaker 6 (45:32):
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Speaker 1 (45:42):
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He used the Peters genelix during the afternoon. Loose sky, Hell,
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Speaker 5 (46:05):
Hey, well all right, so he'll go there and what
are you going again?
Speaker 1 (46:08):
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Speaker 7 (46:19):
Good?
Speaker 6 (46:19):
End?
Speaker 5 (46:19):
The looky big big guard in this morning, serving a
lot bigger than normal to start of the mist of
the lambs and the very big heavy lambes. Only three
hundreds the midium lanes anyway from sort of two twenty
to two fifty, with the bottom edge of the prime
names around it sort of one one sixty five, one seventy.
But Keen wants a very strong market. The end of
(46:41):
aboutoon six and Andy the best of us couple hundred
dollars hit death very heavy, US million, US having one
fifty to one sixty five, one seventy with the light
of condition news around that sort of ninety five and
fifteen dollars, A few rams in there today and the
best of the rams seventy five to twenty dollars lanes
ne'sary three or four lines of those in the UH,
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and UH and that wrapped it up, Andy and time
when all
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