December 9, 2025 • 43 mins
Andy Muir talks to Jason Herrick, James Edgar, Graham Butcher, Veronica Oostveen, Lyn Berry and Mark Calder.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Good afternoon, and welcome to the muster on Hakanui. My
name's Andy Muher. This show is proudly brought to you
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to hunt day. Blue sky and abundance of breeze is
happening in the main street of war and a little
bit of cloud on the horizon as well. But just
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has come out for this season. It has averaged well.
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It's estimated about nineteen point sixty six million head, a
lift of one percent on last season. The national u
lambing percentage has increased one hundred and thirty one point
one percent, up three point seven percentage points as well,
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of fifteen Wynton and Woodlands. At fourteen point six, Jason Herrick,
president of South con Federated Farmers, gets us underway this
afternoon talking about the Yaria Maze and the changes around this,
and there's a lot to entail, so Jase tries to
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put it into a bit of context what it means.
James Egger farmser maa flat has a yarm, talking about
the situation, getting about getting his crops in, which actually
correlates to Graham Butcher as well, talking sewing dates, so
it kind of works some of what James is talking about.
Victoria who's been a darian Z's on the show. And
then lynn Bury in studio talking the twelve pests of Christmas.
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We've got a stock sale report from Mark Calder out
of PGG Rights and regarding the belt Kluther sale, and
they're not far off. Lunch in the Cracker, Windy's are
a couple down getting there. One hundred runs that are
me a pretty solid session. I'll say you call that
a draw for the first session of the second Test
in Wellington. Soout further ado, we'll start the y hour
with Jason Herrick. This is a muster until two o'clock
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Speaker 2 (02:33):
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Speaker 1 (02:46):
Can Jason Herrick as President of South in Federated Farmers
and joins us once again after quite a big twenty
four hours in the rural landscape of thing. Is fair
to say, especially from a federatid few Federated Farmers view
with Jason, good afternoon.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yeah, good afternoon and a year it's actually been quite
gratifying after the at hard work that Federated Farmers have
been putting into in particular the consent issue right up
and down the country. So there's definitely a good win
for farmers on this one.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, just very quickly, the Resource Management Act is going
to be replaced with two x the Planning Act in
the National Environment Tact is going to be cutting consent,
consent and permit numbers by forty six percent, slashing the
number of plans from more of the one hundred to
just seventeen. GDP is going to be changing yearly as well.
A lot of positives in this too. But you guys
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have fed, you'll be pretty tough.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Though offer, you know, extremely chuffed. And you've only got
to take a prime example that if you want to
do most things on a farm, you've got to get
a consent from two different councils, all right. So there's
a huge cuffing and consent requirements right there. And you know,
so there's been a big win for farmers, especially for
people that are approaching that renewal face.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
As far as farm plans and the like stem which yes,
has been pretty hot under the collar around and has
been for a while to be fair, so what the
change is there? There will be impacts all over the
board of Imagine.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Definitely, and let's hope that the farm plan proposal that
they're going to bring out is going to be streamlined
in a user friendly document that farmers can do themselves
right and the devil will be in the detail. And
you know, I'm not a policy person, but we've definitely
got to policy people digging really deep into this and
we'll make sure that we are betting on the right
side of the fence of the farmers because.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
If you look deeply inside this ariuma X what's involved.
There's over a thousand types of zones in New Zealand.
The Council is currently taking a bespoke approach to zoning. Japan,
for example, they've got thirteen so reducing the number of
zones to the figures in the double digits chase, amongst
other things. It certainly shows that there's a lot of
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this to taken on board. Leta's remember this is a
massive document as well, these hundreds of pages.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, so the original r M A from my understanding
of seven hundred and eighty pages, so there's a lot
of deciphering and that, and they definitely want to cut
that right right back and bring it for more of
a common sense, simplistic approach. And you know, when you
look at Japan, that's a lot of similarity there, you know,
thir day compared to ours, well, you know, and it
just leans towards you know, amalgamations or councils to help
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the government streamline all this. Right, So there's a bigger
white of conversation here and there's definitely a lot of
work to be done before it all lands.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Any concerns around the proposed changes.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I'm not hearing too many negatives. There's definitely some concerns
around some things, but yeah, it's common sense at the
end of the day. You know, there's going to be
less cultural requirements through a lot of the consenting process,
which is going to lessen the cost and lessen the
consent requirements. So you know, it is a good win.
And I'll dive into this a lot deeper and you know,
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see what sort of pragmatic approaches and hell common sense
it's going to be for farmers because that's what we're after.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Cnason Farm for example, a big big shift there heritage areas.
If there's one found on your farm, you're entitled to compensation.
So yeah, there's a hell of a lot of this
to entail basically, and there's everything anything and everything is.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Covered, yeah, exactly. So it's definitely time for, you know,
a change again and to be honest with the anti
people as a whole don't like change, so this will
be quite scary for a lot of people and the unknowns,
and we've just got to have faith that that the
processes are going to follow and be done right and
if they're not, we'll hold them to account. And you know,
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there's a simple ticket to pieces and make sure that
it's going to be a fit for purpose and good
for everybody.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
As far as the yes, have you been talking to
them this morning regarding the changes.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
I love.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I had a brief conversation with jerrymy far and there's
definitely a lot of details to get through, and you know,
there's going to be a lot less work for the
consensu team in the short term because of the rollover
of consent reneurals for the next two years, which is
a great result, so you know they'll be able to
concentrate a little bit more on the other necessities and
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the other functions of the council. So yeah, it will
definitely lessen their lessen their workload. That for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
It's not going to please everybody, though, Jason Forrest and
Brad Chief advisor Richard Kape saying it was a mess
of shake up in New Zealand's core environmental and planning laws,
also saying it's rewriting, rewriting the rules that protect our
rivers and lakes, the rules that are needed to make
sure the four thousand threatened species are brought back from
the brink.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
A look at.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
It's also says in there that the environmental standards are
going to be the same as what we currently have now,
you know, to the same length and depth that we
have to avite by when we do go through the
consent and process. So you know, it's not surprising that
the likes of forest and Bird and there'll be a
few more jumping up and down about this too because
they just like the attention at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So we can pretty much put this under the car
category of another thing ticked off Federated Farmers, one thing
the certain issues tacked off this year. I think we're
getting well through your list now, are we not.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, No, they're getting definitely well through the list. And
I know and we're really happy and stoked that they're
taking us serious because at the end of the day, Acrost,
there's the backbone of the country. You know, look at
good Old South and for instance, you know, fourteen percent
of the GDP at only four percent of the population.
You know, we're betting well above our weight. And it's
and it's to do with the royal sector. And there's
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no tow ways about that. So the government's taking notice
of that in pointing New Zealand in the right direction
in my opinion, and it has been so costly and
it has cost the New Zealand economy so much for
so many years, and for us to get a bit
of progress and heading in the right economic direction, these
changes need to be made. Otherwise we're just going to
keep thinking down the toilet because at the end of
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the day, rates can't continue to rise the way they are.
Our four old pensioners won't be able to afford to
pay their pay their rates on their pension by twenty
thirty five. They keep going in that direction. So the
governments really takes notice on the cost of things, and
at the end of the day, we've just got to
get back to that common sense approach, aren't we Is.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
This going to affect South of the more than other
regions in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I think it's going to affect every region in New
Zealand the same. You know, at the end of the day,
we've got to be diverse and equitable right across the board.
And you know there's farmers all over New Zealand, not
just South lond And.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
But it will also affect.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
The environmental situation in all the urban sectors as well, right,
so you know it's not just going to have an
impact on the royal sector. It's going to huge impact
on the urban sectors as well. So you know we
can all work together and go as one and be
unified in this.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Well.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
The perfect case study in this example, though Jason was supposed,
is David Clark up in Canterbury and the hopes he
was having to jump through courtesy of e CAN to
try and get consents for his farm. This is the
perfect example of why this has come.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
About, oh exactly. And you know an another case up
there too where a notified consent had had to happen
when they went for a renewal. You know, they had
had to have a public meeting and the farmer paid
seventy thousand dollars for that public meeting. He turned up
to that public meeting and everything was all good, and
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he seen some morning tea on the table there and
said he'd helped himself because he just paid seventy thousand
dollars for the process, and promptly got old it was
for council stuff only. So he was quite horrified at
that fact.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
The attention will be in the detailed proper, Jason Herrick,
thanks very much for your time on the muster once again.
If we don't speak again this year, thanks for your time.
Enjoyed the holiday season, and we'll do it again next season.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Eh, yeah, you too. Andy, you're looking forward to next.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Year, Jason Herrick of Self Confederated Farmers. You're listening to
the muster. We're way too flatinecks. James Edgar, see how
things are going up? And isn't it neck of the
woods here in West Otaga. This is a master around hawk.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
I know.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
We were away to Mowa Flat this afternoon, catching up
with James Igga farming over that way, hopefully not getting
blown off the hills or anything silly. James, good afternoon.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Oh here's a gun ending. Now it's one of the
maybe five days I've had all season that there's no
wind at the moment, so it certainly hasn't been too many.
I went out fishing fishing with the Great Wolfson there
on Sunday and we had a beautiful day and a
waker and there was no wind. Yeah, it's I've really
enjoyed the five days it hasn't been windy.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
How many fish did you catch?
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Oh, just enough for a feed year four or five
and ticked around and a few power and yeah, and
that was just really a bit of a good day
off farm. So that was nice to do something different.
It's been pretty much chaos here, but we're well on
the control. But yeah, it's certainly busy time of the
air up until about now and then start weaning and stuff.
But we yeah, really trying to focus on getting those
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swedes and then the groundwork done and focus on getting
those lambs drenched and tailed. And yeah, it's just the
sort of that time of the year. There's about three
months of the year to go. Boy fairly fast.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
You can almost rename December organized chaos.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah, we've well, crops are all in, so it's all
ticked off. We'll try and get more cars than November
if we can. So we've just got a couple of
days waning to tidy up before Christmas and finishing the
lamb drenching sort of this week, and we're out here
just at the top road and I don't know if
you're making this job. So yeah, it's under control, which
(12:34):
is actually a nice feeling. But yeah, I certainly I
don't like to have the Swedes in lateness on one
thing I don't like especially up here. We were on
there when it crops too much.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So what would you call late for your Swedes.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
That's a great question. First in December really, Yeah, got
to be in November preferably. We would like to work
on a middle of November, specially we sort of sow
about seventy hec years, so you've got to get started
probably the middle of the month, just to make sure
you finish your last pedix on time. But yeah, we're
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quite close to Central Tigo. Sometimes not every season, but
we certainly can if we're drawing out. It's nice to
get those couple of rains on the sweedes early just
to get them up and going. If you get too
late into December and then you get that dry January
on them like central you just yeah, it's pretty hard
and everything.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
So if you had a more consistent rainfall, you want
to be too stressed about your swedes going in, say
mid December.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
I've done it before. I figure it pays to panic
early because that way you get them in at some stage.
If you're aiming for the middle of December and then
they're not in by Christmas, you know, you're just getting wood. Yeah.
It's just one of the things in farming up here.
I've found it's a lot easier six months of the
year if you've got good winter crops because you can
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just do your feed budgets and everything works and you're
not streeting. If you've got a week of snow or
anything like that, are you know you can just feed
them more is when you don't have enough up here,
you can lose a lot of weight and sheep and
cattle just trying to get through. Yeah, not every year,
it's just some I always try, and it's just risk mitigation.
It's something that I really focus on, is getting those
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crops in.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Is it a spraad and sow situation or you wreaking
the ground.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
No swedes adrect drilled, so we just spray them two
days later the swedes go straight in. That next grass
spray is really the timing of that. That's the absolute
key I've found, and we use and plenty of fertilizer.
We don't usually worry about coming back in with nitrogen.
It's more the grass and weed spray that you do
about a month, well six weeks after sewing. It just depends,
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but that's an absolute key. You just can't have the
grass or weeds competing with the swedes through the timing
of that EG spray in my opinion, with direct drilling
is yeah, absolutely key. And we're using two hundred and
fifty kilos a DAP down the spout, so plenty of
fertilizer as well, because they can't grow without fertilizers. Yeah, no,
it's working out for us anyway.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
So you're working on a season of Tago climate. What
are your clover covers like? At the moment?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Climate is really good, stock are really good. It's just
sometimes we can dry out. I guess on some of
the laest source we don't like it. Sometimes you can
drive if you ever coming up the hill from etric
you can watch the line of the dry and it
comes all the way up to Mars Flat. So you can,
especially in the summer, if you go down there for
ice cream months a week and you'll just watch the
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dry and they will just come all the way up
right up to the top of Mile Flat, so you can.
Actually you've got about three weeks warning. I reckon if
you keep an eye on that dry line. That's sort
of a yeah, wee thing I do sometimes.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, so you use the excuse of an ice cream
and intric to actually go and see what the line's doing.
As far as moisture on the.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Hills, Yeah, it did, right, Yep.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Lamb quality, we're getting up to waning season. If people
haven't weaned, it's pretty much just that time being December,
you reckon. Lamb quality is something needs to be focused.
So I'm given, especially the way the prices have rebounded.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
And we were just talking there off there before. Certainly
something I've been thinking about. And I hear comments from
people around the place sometimes, you know, and talking about
really getting hard into those lambs at waning time because
the price is good, you know, going down to fifteen
point five KOs sixteen kilos and I guess something that
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I'm reflecting on in eleven dollars lamb schedule is that
actually the most important thing is to keep the quality
of our product up in market because if people stop
buying it because it's not very good, well, what's going
to happen to our price? It's actually going to go down.
So one of the things I think we really need
to focus on as farmers is actually having to think
about the consumer. And you know, if you've got those
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hard lambs and I've gone off and there were but there,
the reality is the store price is very high and
maybe they're better off going somewhere so somebody else can
fatten them up, because yeah, I guess that's just one
thing infect on. You know, as we go forward, I
guess with lower sheet numbers, we actually need to be
really focused on the quality of the product we're supplying
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because I know, even in Australia, I've been listening to
some podcasts over there and they're starting to really work
on intramuscular fat and lambs and Maually Pete gathers the
one to talk to you about that next time if
you're interested. But there's quite a bit in there. But
I guess when it comes back to it's the same
as a good steak. If you see that nice marble
steak and it looks good and it's been hung, well,
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you know, you know you're in for a really good
eating quality experience and you're actually happy to pay the
money to get it. But if you have a really
tough steak, you know, you might you think to yourself, oh,
I know I can actually do something with chicken or
some other protein or something else. So I guess I'm
just reflecting as far everywhere we should all be actually
thinking about that and thinking about how every lamb if
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we can, that goes off there farm to go and
get processed, is actually you know, you be really happy
to eat it yourself. And I think they will just
help the markets and just help everyone oversees the consumer
because I actually get a great experience and like, yes,
even though it's more expensive, I will actually pay for
the lamb because I want to, you know, show other people.
So yeah, something that I guess as a farmer, it's
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not thought of very much, but it sort of needs
to be. I guess as we're going through this time
of high prices.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Two things come to mind. For me straight away, James.
Number one is animal genetics, thus giving you a better product.
But number two, like you talked about before, is every
season is different than lambs and aren't just going to
go out sometimes the way we hope? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Absolutely, I think the modern days changed, and I actually, well, yeah,
a couple of points from me. One of them i'd
like to maybe are backing off of the Well, the
approaching companies need to give you the market premiums as
they go. They don't need to change change the point
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compared to how mean are coming out of New Zealand,
because that's actually not a good market signal to just
crash and burn it weaning because you know, the price
is going to go down a dollar fifty just because
there's plenty of lambs here and the you know that's
the process is large, and well, that's actually not good
for anybody because then people are panicking killing these lambs
light or not quite fat enough when they could get further.
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It's not optimum for the eating experience. I guess that's
just that's just us in the processing companies, which is
actually the wrong way. We're not thinking about the consumer
enough if we're doing that. So yeah, that's certainly one
thing I'd like changed, and the other thing I think
is definitely there because we've got lower sheet numbers. It's
very and there's quite a lot of you know, lamb
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lamb fatness around the place. I guess I don't see
the store market well. I making sure it's worth enough
that it's actually better off to take that to somebody
else to make some money off once again, and not
just process it. Because the processes are competing to fill
up their chain. It's a bit of a roundabout way
you're saying that. I think everyone from the farm at
the process, so we all need to think about the
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consumer more because that way everyone can hear high prices
on the way through and not just thinking about scrabbling
around with New Zealand putting premiums on killing light lambs
or lambs that actually aren't finished or won't deliver the
desired eating experience.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah, yeah, wise words. As always, James will leave it there.
Thanks for your time on the muster, not just today
but throughout the year. You enjoy the holiday season mates,
and we'll be in touched in twenty twenty six. Always
appreciate your time.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Thanks, Andy, and I hope everyone out there, including you.
Here's a new year, and Merry Christmas. Sir, No, it's good.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
James Egger of mar Flat shout out Wilson Devery as well.
Always good to have you listening in Wilson as you are.
Next in studio, Graham Butcher. This is the muster to
the muster, Graham. God's gonna say, Graham studio. He's in studio.
But his name's Graham Butcher. How are you?
Speaker 6 (21:06):
I'm very good and you and yourself.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I'll get someone's name right. Probably helps metters, suppose, mate. Look,
we haven't spoken to you for a few weeks. There's
been quite a bit going onto the rural landscape. We'll
start off of this. The big news and the farming
sector over the past twenty four hours is a changing
around Resource Management Act.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
Yes absolutely, I haven't read the whole eight hundred pages.
I'm not likely to either, just some summaries. There's some
really interesting stuff in it. A lot of the stuff
we sort of hoped for and half expecteds happened. One
of the more interesting ones that I came across is
that regulated a relief part of the whole act, and
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this is when imposing significant restrictions such as heritage protections
and significant natural areas, council must provide practical relief mechanisms.
Now that I wasn't expecting that sort of thing. So
in other words, if you, as a farmer are impacted
by regulations and posts on you by council, counsel are
expected to compensate.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
That's some hectic terminology for saying that money.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
Well the devil, Yeah, the devil is going to be
in the detail of that one, of course, but it's
a very good principle to have.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
So as I said, devil's in the detail. We'll find out.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
But that's that's the one that struck me as something
that was really interesting.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Can councils afford to pay that though? That's going to
be the issue, probably not.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
Situation, but maybe it's angled from the fact that when
the councilors get around the table with a highlighted pen
saying this is a significant natural area, they may pause
and think, we're going to have to pay for that
good thing. Really, so what what's it actually doing instead
of making the farmer pay for the regulations which the
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whole of New Zealand citizens benefit from. In fact, in reality,
everyone in New Zealand's going to pay for it for now,
which I.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
Think is good.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah, certainly. It's a document that's found a lot of
favor of rural New Zealand forests and bird not so
much as you'd expect. But it just had to happen though,
like common sense just had to prevail.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
It had to prevail. And I mean the.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Rules that are going to be surrounding who you have
to consult to get a consent about anything. That's going
to be a pretty significant change too.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
This again the devil will in the detail.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
I haven't read it completely, but that had to change.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Your savings are plenty. If you get bored, you can
go and read those seven hundred odd pages. Graham. There's
one thing next time. I'm sure you won't sweete Sewing
dates interacing as well. People have different philosophies around this.
Back in the day, it was all about the Gorse
Show or the End Cargo Show. Getting things so and
James Egger before saying that ed in November is when
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he has to have them in just for the moisture reasonings.
What are you thinking, because well, I would have said,
it's just depending on where you're based in what your
farm types like, it's.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
A farmer who's been on the farm for a number
of years or no. The risk involved with later sewings.
And you know, James has obviously got an issue with
dry conditions there and he's got to get them early
to get left cover, get the roots down so they
can scavenge for the moisture. But there's a bit of
theory around sewing dates for kale in particular. Probably applies
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to swede too, but Carla has got a better root
foraging system than swedes. Then I'm suffering from break. You
haven't got a screwdriver in the studios and I haven't
got just hold on to it.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
You're just gonna have to hang on to it.
Speaker 7 (24:32):
Then, the basic driver of brassica crops for winter is
your average daily temperature, which relates to growing degree days.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
That's the that's the critical bit. So what so in theory,
here's here's what happens.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
You take the number of days in a month, your
average daily temperature for that month, and a neiba has
all that information as far as south And is concerned.
You have a base temperature below which nothing happened, which,
in the case of brassacres, somewhere between four and a
half degrees and five degrees.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
So you're growing.
Speaker 7 (25:05):
Degree days as average temperature for the month less your
base temperature. That's your growing degree days, and you multiply
that by the days in the month and you get
growing degree days for the month. Now, for every growing
degree day that you have, you should grow about ten
kgrees a dry matter and kale. So there's a theoretical
(25:25):
formula there you can work out just what crop yield
you're going to get.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
So I've actually done that.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
One of the things you've got to take into account
is that for the first twenty odd days, not a
lot's happening, so you've got to take twenty days off
your growing degree days. This is a great exercise for Excel.
You can put all this stuff and it comes up
with great answers. So anyway, if you are sowing first
of December in the Gore area with all the growing
degree days in what have you. In theory you should
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have an accumulated growth by the end of May of
just under twelve ton. Now that sounds like it's pretty
much what happens practice early December. Growing first of December
good growing condition. You've got a twelf ton crop. That
sounds pretty reasonable. So what I did after I had
all that set up in excel, I said, Okay, if
we delay it to mid December, if we delay it
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to mid January, or if we delay it to the
first of February, what sort of impact on yields do
we likely have? Now, the impact from going first to
December to fifteenth of December a two week delay is
only about a five degree or five percent drop in
the yield. So we go from just under twelve ton
to about eleven point four ton, So not a huge
(26:35):
impact by delaying that two weeks from first to December.
If we go to mid January, from mid December to
mid January, delay a month, and some people are looking
at that sort of proposition, there's a thirty four percent
drop in yield, so we drop to about seven and
a half ton. Now, seven and a half ton is
still a reasonably useful yield to carry into the winter,
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so it's not out of the question. If we go
to the first of February two week delay, we get
to under five ton.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Now those sorts of yields.
Speaker 7 (27:07):
Look like what happens on farm, but these this calculation
depends on having significant moisture, not significant adequate moisture, adequate fertility,
good plant population, good establishment, and that often doesn't happen
on farm. So I would have thought that getting it
in by Christmas times quite important. If you're delayed till
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mid January, you're still in with a chance of getting
a useful crop. If you're getting into late January early February,
you've got to think of other options.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Well said, Hey, just finally as well, you want to
comment on the schedule price at the moment, you're showing
me some store figures before far out.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
Yeah, that's the microphone, microphone, you've got a budget in
here here we have. Yeah, Typically over the past few
years are the per kilo price for stall lambs live
weight is about forty eight or mid forties to forty
eight percent of the schedule value. Right now it's hovering
(28:06):
around fifty percent, which is sort of an historic high.
So you know, there's there's a lot of good things
happening with farming at the moment. The schedules haven't been
dropping like they would usually be doing this time of
the year, and we've we've got some pretty high shared
your prices as well, so they are pretty good store prices,
good works price hopefully will carry on to be good.
(28:27):
And we've got the RMA which is going to make
it easy for farming, so we can sort of offset
wet springs and winds out of that.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
Good news.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
A lot of happy they feely topics for the end
of the year, growing with everything'shunky dory.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
Yeah, it's looking forward to next year.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Good on your graham, enjoy the holidays. We'll catch you
in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Absolutely, and the same to you.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Welcome back to the muss Veronica oastpin of darien Zid,
catch us up once again, get ave Veronica house things
being over the past few weeks. Hi, how are you?
Speaker 7 (29:07):
You're good?
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Chat bots are all the rage at the moment. Beef
and Lamb's got Bella darien Zid. You've got daisy, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
And actually far actually has one too, But yeah, we've
got we've got daisy that came out a few weeks ago.
That's on our website. So if you go onto darienzed
dot Cota and zed at the.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Top, there's a little daisy icon. You just tap on that.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
And then the chatbot will open. We are trying to
get that into more of like an app per format.
But yeah, you can put anything you want in there
and it'll come up with a response. Like yesterday, I
think I searched what was the low dcat equivalent to
May's silog and it came.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
Up with a bunch of answers for me.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
So I don't have to remember which technoe I read
what in. I can just put ask it a question
and it comes out with all the resources linked to it,
all the tool link to it, and any of the
scientific research link to the question that I'm asking as well.
So yeah, just just really handy to not have to
sit down and read and pour through our website because
it's quite it's quite big and extensive.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
I remember having this conversation with Steve Wilkins, I think
it was about two thousand and seven. Get a Steve
if you're listening, and he talked about having picts on
phone and actually taking a photo of something and setting
it through to get identification, and at the time it
was just groundbreaking, but all of a sudden, we see
what we faced was as far as AI and the
likes and certainly a different era.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Yeah, definitely like and Steve's spot on actually met Steve
last night. He's spot on, like he and I think
like if we can, if we can get AI to
it's one thing for us to use AI to ask
the questions, but we kind of want AI to give
us the answers that we want. But we have to
be quite creative with the way that we asked the
(30:55):
questions and knowing how to ask the questions that we
want to get the answers to. Otherwise it doesn't really understand,
you know, the context of the question. So the more
information we can give it, the better it's going to
answer our questions. Like the more details that we can give.
So I was up at the Precision Dairy conference last
week that was in christ Church that Dairy and Z hosted.
(31:19):
But it's an international conference that moves around every three
years to a different country, and a lot of conversation
about tech AI, what's it, where is it at, where
is it going to go? And it was just really
interesting to hear that, like, you know, there's Derry's quite
quite advanced with this stuff, Like we've had a lot
of this stuff for a long time, as you know,
(31:40):
a Steve was saying, but yeah, like it's just interesting
to hear that like the amount of data farmers have.
And now it's almost to the point that we've been
given too.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Much concerns around technology and the evolution of it, anything
in particular to be worried about. I'm not necessarily talking AI,
I'm just talking across the board.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
I mean, there are a few concerns. I mean, one
thing that I hear quite a bit is I'm sorry,
I don't know how else to word this, but is
this making us stupid? You know, like our people on
farm losing skills? I guess that's the big the big
thing that I hear a lot of times, I think.
And so at this Dairy Precision Dairy conference, a brilliant,
(32:21):
brilliant farmer was on a farmer panel. Her name is
Sharan Roscombe. She's also a South and dairy farmer, and
she explained it really well. She was like, you can
have two versions of this. We could have like people
coming to our farms who are very skilled people who
are interested in technology. This next like another generation who
are very interested in this, and we can attract these
(32:41):
people to our farms and they can we can kind
of almost like accelerate our farms with these types of
people coming in and using this data to like better
than I can probably use it because we didn't grow
up with this data on our farms, right, Or we
can have a different route of people that we're trying
to use AI to replace skills. So it kind of
(33:04):
depends on your system and obviously what type of farm
you have and what type of employer you know, employees
that you can get in your geographical location, you know
all this other information. But she was like, you know,
it doesn't have to be negative. You can look at
this as a positive. And I just thought, you know,
like credit to her. She's amazing, And I just thought
that was a really refreshing way too to look at
(33:26):
tech on farms.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yes, certainly was Hey, good on your Veronica. I always
appreciate your time on the muster. If we don't catch
up next week. You enjoyed the break. We'll see you
in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Okay, thanks Andy, cheers see it.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Veronica, O Spain of Deary and Z. Before we rap up,
Lynn Barry was in studio talking about the Federative Farmer's
Twelve Pieces of Christmas MEMI thanks for joining that, says
(34:00):
the Master on hok and Louis. Lynn Burry catches up
in studio, Lynn House sings, Oh, it's just Peachey. Just
bring the microphone up a little bit closer to yourself.
There you go, It's just Peachey.
Speaker 9 (34:13):
If if the wind would stop blowing, because it's blind
and imacaw for the last four months, and I think
I can count on one hand the number of stool
days we've had for more than like eight hours, it
would be even better.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
We haven't been used to the wind in the South
man I issue over the past couple of years.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
Oh look, this is be the worst it's been since
I've been up in Omacau in the last eight years.
It's just just shocking. I've only had one day when
I've been able to get out and do some spraying,
which is really bad.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
The Twelve Pests of Christmas.
Speaker 9 (34:43):
Yes, so FEDS have put a nice big bill board
up in Wellington I here with the twelve Pests of Christmas,
them being wilding pines and they should include carbon credit
pines because as I was coming into West Totago this morning,
I see another lovely farmers all sprayed out and I'm
assuming that'll go into pines, which is really heartbreaking. Possums,
(35:07):
feral deer and goats, wildcats, wallabies, rabbits, pigs, cooy carp rats,
and I won't say what I put the word in
front of those.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Ducks, but ducks it sounds like duck.
Speaker 9 (35:19):
It does does very close. And Canadian geese. So I
thought i'd pack on Canadian geese because they're moving down
this way, and especially around Tiana they and in some
of our high country areas and around big lakes they're
causing huge problems. The old the old Canadian geese. They
(35:40):
were introduced in eighteen seventy six, but they died out
really quickly. I think it was only about ten of
them introduced then. But then in nineteen oh five and
again in a nineteen twenty they introduced fifty game birds
and they were protected under the Wildlife Act of nineteen
fifty three and were managed technically nowadays or earlier on
(36:02):
by fishing game New Zealand. Most of them were found
in the South Island. It wasn't until the sixties when
they started importing them into the North Island in groups
of five hundred to eight hundred. A couple of them
up into the warra Wrapper and then up in Wellington
in the Auckland areas, and over that time they have
(36:24):
thrived with no peace or animals to keep on top
of them, and currently they reckon. It's about about sixty
thousand of the little critters flying around. So the biggest
problem with them is that you know, they pooh everywhere.
They pooh roughly every twelve minutes and over a whole
(36:46):
day can produce a whole kilo of poos because they're
a bit different from chooks and other birds because they
don't have a gizzard, where a chuck and some of
the other birds will have a gizzard and that food
will sit in there and they'll break it down a goose.
It just goes like it's just one long pipe. It's
in one end and out the other, and ninety seventy
(37:07):
five percent of that's water and the rest of it
it's like whatever else they've been eating.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
So their digestive system is effectively a slurry.
Speaker 9 (37:14):
Point, definitely, and it's full of bugs. It's full of
things like Kempellabacter, Jardier crypto and good oldie coali that
lots of our woke greenies keep telling us is caused
by dairy cows, but in fact, when they did the
(37:35):
survey tested the waters down here in Southland, eighty percent
of E coli and the rivers down here was caused
by wild fowl witch fishing game manage. But we won't
talk about that today because I'll be here all day.
So they produce about a kilo of pooh every day,
they eat about two kilos of grass, and they reckon
(37:55):
four Canadian gooses equal to one stock unit. So that's
a sexy fvekg knew how much the eggs for a
whole year pass.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
The Canadian geese, I will say, not for Canadian gooses.
Speaker 9 (38:07):
Oh, don't be so paquet. When did you get so woke?
Speaker 1 (38:12):
That's not work. It's the egnistictions.
Speaker 9 (38:14):
Look, I'm dyslexing. Everyone knows that I can't spell or
talk proper English.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
So continue.
Speaker 9 (38:21):
So they nest and it takes about twenty eight to
twenty nine days for the eggs to hatch out and
eight to nine weeks for the chicks to fledge in January.
February is the time that we get them to help
get rid of them, because that's basically open season on
Canadian geese now, and they molt over that time, so
they can't fly, so this is when they go and
(38:43):
they round them up and reduce their numbers. Also, they
can do it while they are nesting. They come in
and they can eject the eggs or they oil the eggs.
They did that back in the sixties for a couple
of years and had amazing results. But they found that
the geese went and nested somewhere else when that nesting
ground proved unfruitful sort of thing. So they try and
(39:06):
leave one or two eggs in the nest so that
they've got a couple of little chicks and they'll still
come back this next season and they can keep on
top of the numbers that way.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
So this is Lynn Berry unfiltered today, and there is
a reason for this. Tell us why.
Speaker 9 (39:20):
Well, it's been nearly twenty eight years since i started
doing this little spot on Hokinue. I've been in Southland
now coming up thirty years, so I'm just about a
local and I've decided it's probably about time to wheel
my zimmer frame and park it somewhere else for a change.
And I've decided that today's going to be my last
(39:43):
day doing correspondence on Hokkinui. And it's been an amazing
run and I've had some amazing laughs with Jamie and
Nick back in the day and been felt really privileged
to be able to share my travels overseas and the
information that about those countries as well.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
And you also had a proposal on he once.
Speaker 9 (40:06):
Oh yes, back in the day when I was stupid.
On the twenty ninth of February one year, I read
out this really poem about all these different things and
then proposed to my now X on the radio, and
we got a dag special on it, so everyone got
(40:26):
a few more cents for their DAGs because he ended
up saying yes, which he probably regrets regrets now anyway.
But yeah, and yeah, there's been some really good times.
And I'd like to thank everybody out there who's had
to put up with me all these years and listen
to my dribble. But thank you very much. And I
(40:46):
wish everybody really really merry Christmas. And I'll still be
around annoying people, but just not on the air.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
No, thank you very much. And let you say, there's
been a long time from the concepts from the concer
HOKANII back in the nineties, you've been quite happy to
come on for a chat. Been awesome chatting overseas as well,
having a yarn from somewhere far flong. Where are you
going next for your holidays?
Speaker 9 (41:10):
I'm on the pension now, you know, on the soup,
but we can't afford to do things like travel overseas.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
I's got to say you go to the Gold Coast
and play the poke's in winter.
Speaker 9 (41:22):
Well, I had been invited to a wedding in India
and January, but I had an expense of repair on
my car, so that's gone out the window.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Okay, lit Well, you can hang around with this laugh
out loud.
Speaker 10 (41:34):
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Speaker 1 (41:45):
To today because we can waiter. Will my pizza be long? No, surah,
It'll still be round and the final one as well.
I fired my fruit delivery driver today. I hate to
let the man go, but he was driving me bananas,
Glynn Berry and studio for the final time. My name's
(42:05):
Andy Muir. I'll be back tomorrow one o'clock. You're listening
to the muster on Hockenui of course thanks to Peter's genetics.
Enjoy the afternoon podcast going up shortly? Hey, well all right,
so heab we go there and where are it go
on again for Wednesday mens stock selling action that a
curred at the Barcluther. So he adds this morning Mark
Carter from PGG Rights and gifts the rundown on prices Mark,
(42:27):
Good afternoon, how are we looking?
Speaker 5 (42:29):
Good day?
Speaker 8 (42:29):
Here we go and that very good.
Speaker 5 (42:31):
Thanks.
Speaker 8 (42:31):
We'll get on the way with the good yarding today
of some prime lambs spring prime lambs. They started at
through fifty to two seventy for the tops, two and
thirty for your good middles, and one sixty for the
larger end stall ms. With a smaller yarding of spring
stall ms. Then they feasted fifty for the tops and
(42:53):
thirty for the mediums, and smaller ones are fifty to
ninety good yarding of where I was going to use
today too. They started at two forty two twenty to
two forty, sorry, one hundred and eighty to two hundred
for year middles, and your lighter end were one hundred
and ten one hundred and forty our small selection of rams,
and that fetched seventy dollars. But yeah, it was a
(43:14):
very good yarding of where it was needed to spring
lambs with strong blind demand, small yarding of stores which
sold well. And our cattles sails next week, the seventeenth December,
and it'll be us for the year down here at Belklopa,
thank you very much
Speaker 1 (43:28):
And we're going out playing half for her.
Good afternoon, and welcome to the muster on Hakanui. My
name's Andy Muher. This show is proudly brought to you
by Peter's Genetics. We're here until two o'clock. Welcome along
to hunt day. Blue sky and abundance of breeze is
happening in the main street of war and a little
bit of cloud on the horizon as well. But just
unteresting the note. The beef and lamb national lamb crop
has come out for this season. It has averaged well.
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It's estimated about nineteen point sixty six million head, a
lift of one percent on last season. The national u
lambing percentage has increased one hundred and thirty one point
one percent, up three point seven percentage points as well,
so this is good news considering the way the weather
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and fourteen point nine Robson fifteen point seven on our
fifteen point eight shout out the base of ninety point
foury FM, good to have you tuning in toador Row
of fifteen Wynton and Woodlands. At fourteen point six, Jason Herrick,
president of South con Federated Farmers, gets us underway this
afternoon talking about the Yaria Maze and the changes around this,
and there's a lot to entail, so Jase tries to
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put it into a bit of context what it means.
James Egger farmser maa flat has a yarm, talking about
the situation, getting about getting his crops in, which actually
correlates to Graham Butcher as well, talking sewing dates, so
it kind of works some of what James is talking about.
Victoria who's been a darian Z's on the show. And
then lynn Bury in studio talking the twelve pests of Christmas.
(02:07):
We've got a stock sale report from Mark Calder out
of PGG Rights and regarding the belt Kluther sale, and
they're not far off. Lunch in the Cracker, Windy's are
a couple down getting there. One hundred runs that are
me a pretty solid session. I'll say you call that
a draw for the first session of the second Test
in Wellington. Soout further ado, we'll start the y hour
with Jason Herrick. This is a muster until two o'clock
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thanks to Peters Genetics.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
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Speaker 1 (02:46):
Can Jason Herrick as President of South in Federated Farmers
and joins us once again after quite a big twenty
four hours in the rural landscape of thing. Is fair
to say, especially from a federatid few Federated Farmers view
with Jason, good afternoon.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yeah, good afternoon and a year it's actually been quite
gratifying after the at hard work that Federated Farmers have
been putting into in particular the consent issue right up
and down the country. So there's definitely a good win
for farmers on this one.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, just very quickly, the Resource Management Act is going
to be replaced with two x the Planning Act in
the National Environment Tact is going to be cutting consent,
consent and permit numbers by forty six percent, slashing the
number of plans from more of the one hundred to
just seventeen. GDP is going to be changing yearly as well.
A lot of positives in this too. But you guys
(03:37):
have fed, you'll be pretty tough.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Though offer, you know, extremely chuffed. And you've only got
to take a prime example that if you want to
do most things on a farm, you've got to get
a consent from two different councils, all right. So there's
a huge cuffing and consent requirements right there. And you know,
so there's been a big win for farmers, especially for
people that are approaching that renewal face.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
As far as farm plans and the like stem which yes,
has been pretty hot under the collar around and has
been for a while to be fair, so what the
change is there? There will be impacts all over the
board of Imagine.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Definitely, and let's hope that the farm plan proposal that
they're going to bring out is going to be streamlined
in a user friendly document that farmers can do themselves
right and the devil will be in the detail. And
you know, I'm not a policy person, but we've definitely
got to policy people digging really deep into this and
we'll make sure that we are betting on the right
side of the fence of the farmers because.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
If you look deeply inside this ariuma X what's involved.
There's over a thousand types of zones in New Zealand.
The Council is currently taking a bespoke approach to zoning. Japan,
for example, they've got thirteen so reducing the number of
zones to the figures in the double digits chase, amongst
other things. It certainly shows that there's a lot of
(04:54):
this to taken on board. Leta's remember this is a
massive document as well, these hundreds of pages.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, so the original r M A from my understanding
of seven hundred and eighty pages, so there's a lot
of deciphering and that, and they definitely want to cut
that right right back and bring it for more of
a common sense, simplistic approach. And you know, when you
look at Japan, that's a lot of similarity there, you know,
thir day compared to ours, well, you know, and it
just leans towards you know, amalgamations or councils to help
(05:24):
the government streamline all this. Right, So there's a bigger
white of conversation here and there's definitely a lot of
work to be done before it all lands.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Any concerns around the proposed changes.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I'm not hearing too many negatives. There's definitely some concerns
around some things, but yeah, it's common sense at the
end of the day. You know, there's going to be
less cultural requirements through a lot of the consenting process,
which is going to lessen the cost and lessen the
consent requirements. So you know, it is a good win.
And I'll dive into this a lot deeper and you know,
(05:57):
see what sort of pragmatic approaches and hell common sense
it's going to be for farmers because that's what we're after.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Cnason Farm for example, a big big shift there heritage areas.
If there's one found on your farm, you're entitled to compensation.
So yeah, there's a hell of a lot of this
to entail basically, and there's everything anything and everything is.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Covered, yeah, exactly. So it's definitely time for, you know,
a change again and to be honest with the anti
people as a whole don't like change, so this will
be quite scary for a lot of people and the unknowns,
and we've just got to have faith that that the
processes are going to follow and be done right and
if they're not, we'll hold them to account. And you know,
(06:37):
there's a simple ticket to pieces and make sure that
it's going to be a fit for purpose and good
for everybody.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
As far as the yes, have you been talking to
them this morning regarding the changes.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
I love.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I had a brief conversation with jerrymy far and there's
definitely a lot of details to get through, and you know,
there's going to be a lot less work for the
consensu team in the short term because of the rollover
of consent reneurals for the next two years, which is
a great result, so you know they'll be able to
concentrate a little bit more on the other necessities and
(07:10):
the other functions of the council. So yeah, it will
definitely lessen their lessen their workload. That for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
It's not going to please everybody, though, Jason Forrest and
Brad Chief advisor Richard Kape saying it was a mess
of shake up in New Zealand's core environmental and planning laws,
also saying it's rewriting, rewriting the rules that protect our
rivers and lakes, the rules that are needed to make
sure the four thousand threatened species are brought back from
the brink.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
A look at.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
It's also says in there that the environmental standards are
going to be the same as what we currently have now,
you know, to the same length and depth that we
have to avite by when we do go through the
consent and process. So you know, it's not surprising that
the likes of forest and Bird and there'll be a
few more jumping up and down about this too because
they just like the attention at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So we can pretty much put this under the car
category of another thing ticked off Federated Farmers, one thing
the certain issues tacked off this year. I think we're
getting well through your list now, are we not.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, No, they're getting definitely well through the list. And
I know and we're really happy and stoked that they're
taking us serious because at the end of the day, Acrost,
there's the backbone of the country. You know, look at
good Old South and for instance, you know, fourteen percent
of the GDP at only four percent of the population.
You know, we're betting well above our weight. And it's
and it's to do with the royal sector. And there's
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no tow ways about that. So the government's taking notice
of that in pointing New Zealand in the right direction
in my opinion, and it has been so costly and
it has cost the New Zealand economy so much for
so many years, and for us to get a bit
of progress and heading in the right economic direction, these
changes need to be made. Otherwise we're just going to
keep thinking down the toilet because at the end of
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the day, rates can't continue to rise the way they are.
Our four old pensioners won't be able to afford to
pay their pay their rates on their pension by twenty
thirty five. They keep going in that direction. So the
governments really takes notice on the cost of things, and
at the end of the day, we've just got to
get back to that common sense approach, aren't we Is.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
This going to affect South of the more than other
regions in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I think it's going to affect every region in New
Zealand the same. You know, at the end of the day,
we've got to be diverse and equitable right across the board.
And you know there's farmers all over New Zealand, not
just South lond And.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
But it will also affect.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
The environmental situation in all the urban sectors as well, right,
so you know it's not just going to have an
impact on the royal sector. It's going to huge impact
on the urban sectors as well. So you know we
can all work together and go as one and be
unified in this.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Well.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
The perfect case study in this example, though Jason was supposed,
is David Clark up in Canterbury and the hopes he
was having to jump through courtesy of e CAN to
try and get consents for his farm. This is the
perfect example of why this has come.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
About, oh exactly. And you know an another case up
there too where a notified consent had had to happen
when they went for a renewal. You know, they had
had to have a public meeting and the farmer paid
seventy thousand dollars for that public meeting. He turned up
to that public meeting and everything was all good, and
(10:12):
he seen some morning tea on the table there and
said he'd helped himself because he just paid seventy thousand
dollars for the process, and promptly got old it was
for council stuff only. So he was quite horrified at
that fact.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
The attention will be in the detailed proper, Jason Herrick,
thanks very much for your time on the muster once again.
If we don't speak again this year, thanks for your time.
Enjoyed the holiday season, and we'll do it again next season.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Eh, yeah, you too. Andy, you're looking forward to next.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Year, Jason Herrick of Self Confederated Farmers. You're listening to
the muster. We're way too flatinecks. James Edgar, see how
things are going up? And isn't it neck of the
woods here in West Otaga. This is a master around hawk.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
I know.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
We were away to Mowa Flat this afternoon, catching up
with James Igga farming over that way, hopefully not getting
blown off the hills or anything silly. James, good afternoon.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Oh here's a gun ending. Now it's one of the
maybe five days I've had all season that there's no
wind at the moment, so it certainly hasn't been too many.
I went out fishing fishing with the Great Wolfson there
on Sunday and we had a beautiful day and a
waker and there was no wind. Yeah, it's I've really
enjoyed the five days it hasn't been windy.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
How many fish did you catch?
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Oh, just enough for a feed year four or five
and ticked around and a few power and yeah, and
that was just really a bit of a good day
off farm. So that was nice to do something different.
It's been pretty much chaos here, but we're well on
the control. But yeah, it's certainly busy time of the
air up until about now and then start weaning and stuff.
But we yeah, really trying to focus on getting those
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swedes and then the groundwork done and focus on getting
those lambs drenched and tailed. And yeah, it's just the
sort of that time of the year. There's about three
months of the year to go. Boy fairly fast.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
You can almost rename December organized chaos.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah, we've well, crops are all in, so it's all
ticked off. We'll try and get more cars than November
if we can. So we've just got a couple of
days waning to tidy up before Christmas and finishing the
lamb drenching sort of this week, and we're out here
just at the top road and I don't know if
you're making this job. So yeah, it's under control, which
(12:34):
is actually a nice feeling. But yeah, I certainly I
don't like to have the Swedes in lateness on one
thing I don't like especially up here. We were on
there when it crops too much.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So what would you call late for your Swedes.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
That's a great question. First in December really, Yeah, got
to be in November preferably. We would like to work
on a middle of November, specially we sort of sow
about seventy hec years, so you've got to get started
probably the middle of the month, just to make sure
you finish your last pedix on time. But yeah, we're
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quite close to Central Tigo. Sometimes not every season, but
we certainly can if we're drawing out. It's nice to
get those couple of rains on the sweedes early just
to get them up and going. If you get too
late into December and then you get that dry January
on them like central you just yeah, it's pretty hard
and everything.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
So if you had a more consistent rainfall, you want
to be too stressed about your swedes going in, say
mid December.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
I've done it before. I figure it pays to panic
early because that way you get them in at some stage.
If you're aiming for the middle of December and then
they're not in by Christmas, you know, you're just getting wood. Yeah.
It's just one of the things in farming up here.
I've found it's a lot easier six months of the
year if you've got good winter crops because you can
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just do your feed budgets and everything works and you're
not streeting. If you've got a week of snow or
anything like that, are you know you can just feed
them more is when you don't have enough up here,
you can lose a lot of weight and sheep and
cattle just trying to get through. Yeah, not every year,
it's just some I always try, and it's just risk mitigation.
It's something that I really focus on, is getting those
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crops in.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Is it a spraad and sow situation or you wreaking
the ground.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
No swedes adrect drilled, so we just spray them two
days later the swedes go straight in. That next grass
spray is really the timing of that. That's the absolute
key I've found, and we use and plenty of fertilizer.
We don't usually worry about coming back in with nitrogen.
It's more the grass and weed spray that you do
about a month, well six weeks after sewing. It just depends,
(14:43):
but that's an absolute key. You just can't have the
grass or weeds competing with the swedes through the timing
of that EG spray in my opinion, with direct drilling
is yeah, absolutely key. And we're using two hundred and
fifty kilos a DAP down the spout, so plenty of
fertilizer as well, because they can't grow without fertilizers. Yeah, no,
it's working out for us anyway.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
So you're working on a season of Tago climate. What
are your clover covers like? At the moment?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Climate is really good, stock are really good. It's just
sometimes we can dry out. I guess on some of
the laest source we don't like it. Sometimes you can
drive if you ever coming up the hill from etric
you can watch the line of the dry and it
comes all the way up to Mars Flat. So you can,
especially in the summer, if you go down there for
ice cream months a week and you'll just watch the
(15:30):
dry and they will just come all the way up
right up to the top of Mile Flat, so you can.
Actually you've got about three weeks warning. I reckon if
you keep an eye on that dry line. That's sort
of a yeah, wee thing I do sometimes.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, so you use the excuse of an ice cream
and intric to actually go and see what the line's doing.
As far as moisture on the.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Hills, Yeah, it did, right, Yep.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Lamb quality, we're getting up to waning season. If people
haven't weaned, it's pretty much just that time being December,
you reckon. Lamb quality is something needs to be focused.
So I'm given, especially the way the prices have rebounded.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
And we were just talking there off there before. Certainly
something I've been thinking about. And I hear comments from
people around the place sometimes, you know, and talking about
really getting hard into those lambs at waning time because
the price is good, you know, going down to fifteen
point five KOs sixteen kilos and I guess something that
(16:24):
I'm reflecting on in eleven dollars lamb schedule is that
actually the most important thing is to keep the quality
of our product up in market because if people stop
buying it because it's not very good, well, what's going
to happen to our price? It's actually going to go down.
So one of the things I think we really need
to focus on as farmers is actually having to think
about the consumer. And you know, if you've got those
(16:47):
hard lambs and I've gone off and there were but there,
the reality is the store price is very high and
maybe they're better off going somewhere so somebody else can
fatten them up, because yeah, I guess that's just one
thing infect on. You know, as we go forward, I
guess with lower sheet numbers, we actually need to be
really focused on the quality of the product we're supplying
(17:10):
because I know, even in Australia, I've been listening to
some podcasts over there and they're starting to really work
on intramuscular fat and lambs and Maually Pete gathers the
one to talk to you about that next time if
you're interested. But there's quite a bit in there. But
I guess when it comes back to it's the same
as a good steak. If you see that nice marble
steak and it looks good and it's been hung, well,
(17:31):
you know, you know you're in for a really good
eating quality experience and you're actually happy to pay the
money to get it. But if you have a really
tough steak, you know, you might you think to yourself, oh,
I know I can actually do something with chicken or
some other protein or something else. So I guess I'm
just reflecting as far everywhere we should all be actually
thinking about that and thinking about how every lamb if
(17:54):
we can, that goes off there farm to go and
get processed, is actually you know, you be really happy
to eat it yourself. And I think they will just
help the markets and just help everyone oversees the consumer
because I actually get a great experience and like, yes,
even though it's more expensive, I will actually pay for
the lamb because I want to, you know, show other people.
So yeah, something that I guess as a farmer, it's
(18:15):
not thought of very much, but it sort of needs
to be. I guess as we're going through this time
of high prices.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Two things come to mind. For me straight away, James.
Number one is animal genetics, thus giving you a better product.
But number two, like you talked about before, is every
season is different than lambs and aren't just going to
go out sometimes the way we hope? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Absolutely, I think the modern days changed, and I actually, well, yeah,
a couple of points from me. One of them i'd
like to maybe are backing off of the Well, the
approaching companies need to give you the market premiums as
they go. They don't need to change change the point
(18:59):
compared to how mean are coming out of New Zealand,
because that's actually not a good market signal to just
crash and burn it weaning because you know, the price
is going to go down a dollar fifty just because
there's plenty of lambs here and the you know that's
the process is large, and well, that's actually not good
for anybody because then people are panicking killing these lambs
light or not quite fat enough when they could get further.
(19:21):
It's not optimum for the eating experience. I guess that's
just that's just us in the processing companies, which is
actually the wrong way. We're not thinking about the consumer
enough if we're doing that. So yeah, that's certainly one
thing I'd like changed, and the other thing I think
is definitely there because we've got lower sheet numbers. It's
very and there's quite a lot of you know, lamb
(19:44):
lamb fatness around the place. I guess I don't see
the store market well. I making sure it's worth enough
that it's actually better off to take that to somebody
else to make some money off once again, and not
just process it. Because the processes are competing to fill
up their chain. It's a bit of a roundabout way
you're saying that. I think everyone from the farm at
the process, so we all need to think about the
(20:06):
consumer more because that way everyone can hear high prices
on the way through and not just thinking about scrabbling
around with New Zealand putting premiums on killing light lambs
or lambs that actually aren't finished or won't deliver the
desired eating experience.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah, yeah, wise words. As always, James will leave it there.
Thanks for your time on the muster, not just today
but throughout the year. You enjoy the holiday season mates,
and we'll be in touched in twenty twenty six. Always
appreciate your time.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Thanks, Andy, and I hope everyone out there, including you.
Here's a new year, and Merry Christmas. Sir, No, it's good.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
James Egger of mar Flat shout out Wilson Devery as well.
Always good to have you listening in Wilson as you are.
Next in studio, Graham Butcher. This is the muster to
the muster, Graham. God's gonna say, Graham studio. He's in studio.
But his name's Graham Butcher. How are you?
Speaker 6 (21:06):
I'm very good and you and yourself.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I'll get someone's name right. Probably helps metters, suppose, mate. Look,
we haven't spoken to you for a few weeks. There's
been quite a bit going onto the rural landscape. We'll
start off of this. The big news and the farming
sector over the past twenty four hours is a changing
around Resource Management Act.
Speaker 7 (21:23):
Yes absolutely, I haven't read the whole eight hundred pages.
I'm not likely to either, just some summaries. There's some
really interesting stuff in it. A lot of the stuff
we sort of hoped for and half expecteds happened. One
of the more interesting ones that I came across is
that regulated a relief part of the whole act, and
(21:45):
this is when imposing significant restrictions such as heritage protections
and significant natural areas, council must provide practical relief mechanisms.
Now that I wasn't expecting that sort of thing. So
in other words, if you, as a farmer are impacted
by regulations and posts on you by council, counsel are
expected to compensate.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
That's some hectic terminology for saying that money.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
Well the devil, Yeah, the devil is going to be
in the detail of that one, of course, but it's
a very good principle to have.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
So as I said, devil's in the detail. We'll find out.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
But that's that's the one that struck me as something
that was really interesting.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Can councils afford to pay that though? That's going to
be the issue, probably not.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
Situation, but maybe it's angled from the fact that when
the councilors get around the table with a highlighted pen
saying this is a significant natural area, they may pause
and think, we're going to have to pay for that
good thing. Really, so what what's it actually doing instead
of making the farmer pay for the regulations which the
(22:51):
whole of New Zealand citizens benefit from. In fact, in reality,
everyone in New Zealand's going to pay for it for now,
which I.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
Think is good.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah, certainly. It's a document that's found a lot of
favor of rural New Zealand forests and bird not so
much as you'd expect. But it just had to happen though,
like common sense just had to prevail.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
It had to prevail. And I mean the.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Rules that are going to be surrounding who you have
to consult to get a consent about anything. That's going
to be a pretty significant change too.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
This again the devil will in the detail.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
I haven't read it completely, but that had to change.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Your savings are plenty. If you get bored, you can
go and read those seven hundred odd pages. Graham. There's
one thing next time. I'm sure you won't sweete Sewing
dates interacing as well. People have different philosophies around this.
Back in the day, it was all about the Gorse
Show or the End Cargo Show. Getting things so and
James Egger before saying that ed in November is when
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he has to have them in just for the moisture reasonings.
What are you thinking, because well, I would have said,
it's just depending on where you're based in what your
farm types like, it's.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
A farmer who's been on the farm for a number
of years or no. The risk involved with later sewings.
And you know, James has obviously got an issue with
dry conditions there and he's got to get them early
to get left cover, get the roots down so they
can scavenge for the moisture. But there's a bit of
theory around sewing dates for kale in particular. Probably applies
(24:19):
to swede too, but Carla has got a better root
foraging system than swedes. Then I'm suffering from break. You
haven't got a screwdriver in the studios and I haven't
got just hold on to it.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
You're just gonna have to hang on to it.
Speaker 7 (24:32):
Then, the basic driver of brassica crops for winter is
your average daily temperature, which relates to growing degree days.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
That's the that's the critical bit. So what so in theory,
here's here's what happens.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
You take the number of days in a month, your
average daily temperature for that month, and a neiba has
all that information as far as south And is concerned.
You have a base temperature below which nothing happened, which,
in the case of brassacres, somewhere between four and a
half degrees and five degrees.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
So you're growing.
Speaker 7 (25:05):
Degree days as average temperature for the month less your
base temperature. That's your growing degree days, and you multiply
that by the days in the month and you get
growing degree days for the month. Now, for every growing
degree day that you have, you should grow about ten
kgrees a dry matter and kale. So there's a theoretical
(25:25):
formula there you can work out just what crop yield
you're going to get.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
So I've actually done that.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
One of the things you've got to take into account
is that for the first twenty odd days, not a
lot's happening, so you've got to take twenty days off
your growing degree days. This is a great exercise for Excel.
You can put all this stuff and it comes up
with great answers. So anyway, if you are sowing first
of December in the Gore area with all the growing
degree days in what have you. In theory you should
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have an accumulated growth by the end of May of
just under twelve ton. Now that sounds like it's pretty
much what happens practice early December. Growing first of December
good growing condition. You've got a twelf ton crop. That
sounds pretty reasonable. So what I did after I had
all that set up in excel, I said, Okay, if
we delay it to mid December, if we delay it
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to mid January, or if we delay it to the
first of February, what sort of impact on yields do
we likely have? Now, the impact from going first to
December to fifteenth of December a two week delay is
only about a five degree or five percent drop in
the yield. So we go from just under twelve ton
to about eleven point four ton, So not a huge
(26:35):
impact by delaying that two weeks from first to December.
If we go to mid January, from mid December to
mid January, delay a month, and some people are looking
at that sort of proposition, there's a thirty four percent
drop in yield, so we drop to about seven and
a half ton. Now, seven and a half ton is
still a reasonably useful yield to carry into the winter,
(26:55):
so it's not out of the question. If we go
to the first of February two week delay, we get
to under five ton.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Now those sorts of yields.
Speaker 7 (27:07):
Look like what happens on farm, but these this calculation
depends on having significant moisture, not significant adequate moisture, adequate fertility,
good plant population, good establishment, and that often doesn't happen
on farm. So I would have thought that getting it
in by Christmas times quite important. If you're delayed till
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mid January, you're still in with a chance of getting
a useful crop. If you're getting into late January early February,
you've got to think of other options.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Well said, Hey, just finally as well, you want to
comment on the schedule price at the moment, you're showing
me some store figures before far out.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
Yeah, that's the microphone, microphone, you've got a budget in
here here we have. Yeah, Typically over the past few
years are the per kilo price for stall lambs live
weight is about forty eight or mid forties to forty
eight percent of the schedule value. Right now it's hovering
(28:06):
around fifty percent, which is sort of an historic high.
So you know, there's there's a lot of good things
happening with farming at the moment. The schedules haven't been
dropping like they would usually be doing this time of
the year, and we've we've got some pretty high shared
your prices as well, so they are pretty good store prices,
good works price hopefully will carry on to be good.
(28:27):
And we've got the RMA which is going to make
it easy for farming, so we can sort of offset
wet springs and winds out of that.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
Good news.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
A lot of happy they feely topics for the end
of the year, growing with everything'shunky dory.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
Yeah, it's looking forward to next year.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Good on your graham, enjoy the holidays. We'll catch you
in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Absolutely, and the same to you.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Welcome back to the muss Veronica oastpin of darien Zid,
catch us up once again, get ave Veronica house things
being over the past few weeks. Hi, how are you?
Speaker 7 (29:07):
You're good?
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Chat bots are all the rage at the moment. Beef
and Lamb's got Bella darien Zid. You've got daisy, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
And actually far actually has one too, But yeah, we've
got we've got daisy that came out a few weeks ago.
That's on our website. So if you go onto darienzed
dot Cota and zed at the.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Top, there's a little daisy icon. You just tap on that.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
And then the chatbot will open. We are trying to
get that into more of like an app per format.
But yeah, you can put anything you want in there
and it'll come up with a response. Like yesterday, I
think I searched what was the low dcat equivalent to
May's silog and it came.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
Up with a bunch of answers for me.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
So I don't have to remember which technoe I read
what in. I can just put ask it a question
and it comes out with all the resources linked to it,
all the tool link to it, and any of the
scientific research link to the question that I'm asking as well.
So yeah, just just really handy to not have to
sit down and read and pour through our website because
it's quite it's quite big and extensive.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
I remember having this conversation with Steve Wilkins, I think
it was about two thousand and seven. Get a Steve
if you're listening, and he talked about having picts on
phone and actually taking a photo of something and setting
it through to get identification, and at the time it
was just groundbreaking, but all of a sudden, we see
what we faced was as far as AI and the
likes and certainly a different era.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Yeah, definitely like and Steve's spot on actually met Steve
last night. He's spot on, like he and I think
like if we can, if we can get AI to
it's one thing for us to use AI to ask
the questions, but we kind of want AI to give
us the answers that we want. But we have to
be quite creative with the way that we asked the
(30:55):
questions and knowing how to ask the questions that we
want to get the answers to. Otherwise it doesn't really understand,
you know, the context of the question. So the more
information we can give it, the better it's going to
answer our questions. Like the more details that we can give.
So I was up at the Precision Dairy conference last
week that was in christ Church that Dairy and Z hosted.
(31:19):
But it's an international conference that moves around every three
years to a different country, and a lot of conversation
about tech AI, what's it, where is it at, where
is it going to go? And it was just really
interesting to hear that, like, you know, there's Derry's quite
quite advanced with this stuff, Like we've had a lot
of this stuff for a long time, as you know,
(31:40):
a Steve was saying, but yeah, like it's just interesting
to hear that like the amount of data farmers have.
And now it's almost to the point that we've been
given too.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Much concerns around technology and the evolution of it, anything
in particular to be worried about. I'm not necessarily talking AI,
I'm just talking across the board.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
I mean, there are a few concerns. I mean, one
thing that I hear quite a bit is I'm sorry,
I don't know how else to word this, but is
this making us stupid? You know, like our people on
farm losing skills? I guess that's the big the big
thing that I hear a lot of times, I think.
And so at this Dairy Precision Dairy conference, a brilliant,
(32:21):
brilliant farmer was on a farmer panel. Her name is
Sharan Roscombe. She's also a South and dairy farmer, and
she explained it really well. She was like, you can
have two versions of this. We could have like people
coming to our farms who are very skilled people who
are interested in technology. This next like another generation who
are very interested in this, and we can attract these
(32:41):
people to our farms and they can we can kind
of almost like accelerate our farms with these types of
people coming in and using this data to like better
than I can probably use it because we didn't grow
up with this data on our farms, right, Or we
can have a different route of people that we're trying
to use AI to replace skills. So it kind of
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depends on your system and obviously what type of farm
you have and what type of employer you know, employees
that you can get in your geographical location, you know
all this other information. But she was like, you know,
it doesn't have to be negative. You can look at
this as a positive. And I just thought, you know,
like credit to her. She's amazing, And I just thought
that was a really refreshing way too to look at
(33:26):
tech on farms.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yes, certainly was Hey, good on your Veronica. I always
appreciate your time on the muster. If we don't catch
up next week. You enjoyed the break. We'll see you
in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Okay, thanks Andy, cheers see it.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Veronica, O Spain of Deary and Z. Before we rap up,
Lynn Barry was in studio talking about the Federative Farmer's
Twelve Pieces of Christmas MEMI thanks for joining that, says
(34:00):
the Master on hok and Louis. Lynn Burry catches up
in studio, Lynn House sings, Oh, it's just Peachey. Just
bring the microphone up a little bit closer to yourself.
There you go, It's just Peachey.
Speaker 9 (34:13):
If if the wind would stop blowing, because it's blind
and imacaw for the last four months, and I think
I can count on one hand the number of stool
days we've had for more than like eight hours, it
would be even better.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
We haven't been used to the wind in the South
man I issue over the past couple of years.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
Oh look, this is be the worst it's been since
I've been up in Omacau in the last eight years.
It's just just shocking. I've only had one day when
I've been able to get out and do some spraying,
which is really bad.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
The Twelve Pests of Christmas.
Speaker 9 (34:43):
Yes, so FEDS have put a nice big bill board
up in Wellington I here with the twelve Pests of Christmas,
them being wilding pines and they should include carbon credit
pines because as I was coming into West Totago this morning,
I see another lovely farmers all sprayed out and I'm
assuming that'll go into pines, which is really heartbreaking. Possums,
(35:07):
feral deer and goats, wildcats, wallabies, rabbits, pigs, cooy carp rats,
and I won't say what I put the word in
front of those.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Ducks, but ducks it sounds like duck.
Speaker 9 (35:19):
It does does very close. And Canadian geese. So I
thought i'd pack on Canadian geese because they're moving down
this way, and especially around Tiana they and in some
of our high country areas and around big lakes they're
causing huge problems. The old the old Canadian geese. They
(35:40):
were introduced in eighteen seventy six, but they died out
really quickly. I think it was only about ten of
them introduced then. But then in nineteen oh five and
again in a nineteen twenty they introduced fifty game birds
and they were protected under the Wildlife Act of nineteen
fifty three and were managed technically nowadays or earlier on
(36:02):
by fishing game New Zealand. Most of them were found
in the South Island. It wasn't until the sixties when
they started importing them into the North Island in groups
of five hundred to eight hundred. A couple of them
up into the warra Wrapper and then up in Wellington
in the Auckland areas, and over that time they have
(36:24):
thrived with no peace or animals to keep on top
of them, and currently they reckon. It's about about sixty
thousand of the little critters flying around. So the biggest
problem with them is that you know, they pooh everywhere.
They pooh roughly every twelve minutes and over a whole
(36:46):
day can produce a whole kilo of poos because they're
a bit different from chooks and other birds because they
don't have a gizzard, where a chuck and some of
the other birds will have a gizzard and that food
will sit in there and they'll break it down a goose.
It just goes like it's just one long pipe. It's
in one end and out the other, and ninety seventy
(37:07):
five percent of that's water and the rest of it
it's like whatever else they've been eating.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
So their digestive system is effectively a slurry.
Speaker 9 (37:14):
Point, definitely, and it's full of bugs. It's full of
things like Kempellabacter, Jardier crypto and good oldie coali that
lots of our woke greenies keep telling us is caused
by dairy cows, but in fact, when they did the
(37:35):
survey tested the waters down here in Southland, eighty percent
of E coli and the rivers down here was caused
by wild fowl witch fishing game manage. But we won't
talk about that today because I'll be here all day.
So they produce about a kilo of pooh every day,
they eat about two kilos of grass, and they reckon
(37:55):
four Canadian gooses equal to one stock unit. So that's
a sexy fvekg knew how much the eggs for a
whole year pass.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
The Canadian geese, I will say, not for Canadian gooses.
Speaker 9 (38:07):
Oh, don't be so paquet. When did you get so woke?
Speaker 1 (38:12):
That's not work. It's the egnistictions.
Speaker 9 (38:14):
Look, I'm dyslexing. Everyone knows that I can't spell or
talk proper English.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
So continue.
Speaker 9 (38:21):
So they nest and it takes about twenty eight to
twenty nine days for the eggs to hatch out and
eight to nine weeks for the chicks to fledge in January.
February is the time that we get them to help
get rid of them, because that's basically open season on
Canadian geese now, and they molt over that time, so
they can't fly, so this is when they go and
(38:43):
they round them up and reduce their numbers. Also, they
can do it while they are nesting. They come in
and they can eject the eggs or they oil the eggs.
They did that back in the sixties for a couple
of years and had amazing results. But they found that
the geese went and nested somewhere else when that nesting
ground proved unfruitful sort of thing. So they try and
(39:06):
leave one or two eggs in the nest so that
they've got a couple of little chicks and they'll still
come back this next season and they can keep on
top of the numbers that way.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
So this is Lynn Berry unfiltered today, and there is
a reason for this. Tell us why.
Speaker 9 (39:20):
Well, it's been nearly twenty eight years since i started
doing this little spot on Hokinue. I've been in Southland
now coming up thirty years, so I'm just about a
local and I've decided it's probably about time to wheel
my zimmer frame and park it somewhere else for a change.
And I've decided that today's going to be my last
(39:43):
day doing correspondence on Hokkinui. And it's been an amazing
run and I've had some amazing laughs with Jamie and
Nick back in the day and been felt really privileged
to be able to share my travels overseas and the
information that about those countries as well.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
And you also had a proposal on he once.
Speaker 9 (40:06):
Oh yes, back in the day when I was stupid.
On the twenty ninth of February one year, I read
out this really poem about all these different things and
then proposed to my now X on the radio, and
we got a dag special on it, so everyone got
(40:26):
a few more cents for their DAGs because he ended
up saying yes, which he probably regrets regrets now anyway.
But yeah, and yeah, there's been some really good times.
And I'd like to thank everybody out there who's had
to put up with me all these years and listen
to my dribble. But thank you very much. And I
(40:46):
wish everybody really really merry Christmas. And I'll still be
around annoying people, but just not on the air.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
No, thank you very much. And let you say, there's
been a long time from the concepts from the concer
HOKANII back in the nineties, you've been quite happy to
come on for a chat. Been awesome chatting overseas as well,
having a yarn from somewhere far flong. Where are you
going next for your holidays?
Speaker 9 (41:10):
I'm on the pension now, you know, on the soup,
but we can't afford to do things like travel overseas.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
I's got to say you go to the Gold Coast
and play the poke's in winter.
Speaker 9 (41:22):
Well, I had been invited to a wedding in India
and January, but I had an expense of repair on
my car, so that's gone out the window.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Okay, lit Well, you can hang around with this laugh
out loud.
Speaker 10 (41:34):
Here we go, laugh out loud with ag proud because
life on the land can be a laughing matter. Brought
to us by sheer Well Data working to help the
livestock farmer.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
To today because we can waiter. Will my pizza be long? No, surah,
It'll still be round and the final one as well.
I fired my fruit delivery driver today. I hate to
let the man go, but he was driving me bananas,
Glynn Berry and studio for the final time. My name's
(42:05):
Andy Muir. I'll be back tomorrow one o'clock. You're listening
to the muster on Hockenui of course thanks to Peter's genetics.
Enjoy the afternoon podcast going up shortly? Hey, well all right,
so heab we go there and where are it go
on again for Wednesday mens stock selling action that a
curred at the Barcluther. So he adds this morning Mark
Carter from PGG Rights and gifts the rundown on prices Mark,
(42:27):
Good afternoon, how are we looking?
Speaker 5 (42:29):
Good day?
Speaker 8 (42:29):
Here we go and that very good.
Speaker 5 (42:31):
Thanks.
Speaker 8 (42:31):
We'll get on the way with the good yarding today
of some prime lambs spring prime lambs. They started at
through fifty to two seventy for the tops, two and
thirty for your good middles, and one sixty for the
larger end stall ms. With a smaller yarding of spring
stall ms. Then they feasted fifty for the tops and
(42:53):
thirty for the mediums, and smaller ones are fifty to
ninety good yarding of where I was going to use
today too. They started at two forty two twenty to
two forty, sorry, one hundred and eighty to two hundred
for year middles, and your lighter end were one hundred
and ten one hundred and forty our small selection of rams,
and that fetched seventy dollars. But yeah, it was a
(43:14):
very good yarding of where it was needed to spring
lambs with strong blind demand, small yarding of stores which
sold well. And our cattles sails next week, the seventeenth December,
and it'll be us for the year down here at Belklopa,
thank you very much
Speaker 1 (43:28):
And we're going out playing half for her.
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