September 10, 2025 • 42 mins
Andy Muir talks to Matt Ward, Steve Henderson, Warren Ross, Nick Costar, Nathan Burdon and David Morrison.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Good afternoon. Welcome to the muster on Hakanui. My name
is Andy Muher Here it's at two o'clock. Thanks for
Pettish and Addix. Welcome along. Hope everything's going well. Good
to see some blue sky after the last couple of
days where it's been a little bit iffee. This'd be
perfectly honest. We'll look at the four cars shortly, but
certainly makes a difference to the mood right, as does
the music today. The beg's a classic five day four.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
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five point four and Woodland's six point four starting to
yell with Matt Ward farming at Morton Maze. We had
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met on the show a few weeks back now, probably
about a month ago, and just a really interesting view
towards the farming world. A very intelligent young farming mind.
Steve Henderson Abador talking about intelligence. Steve talks about his
farm and incorporating staff into the Spring Grind, what they
do differently there from Beef and Land New Zealand. We've
got Nick Costa. Warren Ross is on the program talking, well,
(01:47):
what's happening on the farm in the moment. He's a
dear farmer, so it's a quiet time of year, but
a lot of other things going on, whether it's fishing
or rallying. A few things coming up there for a
while and residents sporting Gary Nathan Birdha and what the
hell is going on with or nipball a lot there
and to try and unwind and the All Blacks the
team has been named and sebbe Reese is making his
(02:08):
debut for the Stags, but Dave Morrison from PGG writes,
and he starts us off and to tell you what
these are, some wicker prices for lambs. Starting the l
next with Matt Ward. This is the Muster until two
o'clock thanks to Peters Genetics. Matt Ward farms at Moreton,
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Mainz and joins us this afternoon on the Muster. Now,
Matt was the twenty twenty four Beef and Lamb Young
Development Young Farm and Development Scholarship winner. He chose to
follow a path ship a path along the calog Rural
Leadership and we had him on the show well about
a month ago. I suppose it's some really interesting insights,
especially regaining New Zealand agriculture overseas. And he joins this
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this afternoon down on the cold face on the Lemming Beat. Matt, good, afternoons,
how's everything and more? To Mainz?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah good Andy? Hell are you?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah? Pretty good?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
This story, this story that we're chipping away not too
bad down here. It's cold, but sunshine and when starting
to blow to dry things out. But I'll tell you
what those heated hand grips this morning we're getting They
are on double time, man, they're working wonders.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Heated hand grips, but probably the best, one of the
best inventions for for a motorbike, especially with the hand mites.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Oh with the mets on as well. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
there's nothing better, nothing better than catching the year and
getting cold hands and put them straight back in the
midst to forget about it again.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
And if you're lucky, you had a screen as well.
But nonetheless, mate, how's thing's been anyway over the last
couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
She's been wet. Yeah, she's definitely been wet, But it's
sort of like we've had such a good run through
winter it was always going to happen, so you need
to get that rain eventually, and it's just a shame
that happen and during lemon. But in my opinion, that's
why that's why you plant shelter, and especially here in
more remains like there's not much stopping it unless you've
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got to make a carp a hedge or something to
go hide behind. So it's yeah, so that is just
what it is. You just got to keep working with today.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
So shelter for the years isn't a problem on your phone.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
No, No, it's not. I've only probably got maybe one,
two three pedics lifted or planted a bit of shelter
since I've been home, and luckily managers before me and
my father before me as well head But for sight
two pots well a step like Maker Carperhages, and then
I sort of think there's a bit of a cost
and the upkeep of them. But God, when you see
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you standing standing there this morning, I would have had
five or six years get to them under a hedge
with sets of twins on each of them, happy airs,
and then one youth standing over it dead, sit in
the middle of the peddick sort of like the hedge
just pays for it. South pretty quickly, really.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
So how far through laving would you be? Matt?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Uh? You were over halfway now? Yeah, mixt a jews
are over halfway and the Hogots starts next Friday. They'll
start chipping into it, so that would pretty yeah, cruising
through pretty quick? Really?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Are you pretty intensive on the laming beat?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
I try not to be. Yeah, I know there's definitely
people a lot more intensive than me. I still mother
the odd lamb on and mark around, but I'm trying
to avoid it as much as I can. I'm I'm
pretty I take my black pigs lost me everywhere, and
anything that I need to give a hand to or
mother wrong gets a black pig. And if I see
her again while she goes straight into my baymart, and
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if I see her again and she's on the bus.
So yeah, but then it's actually quite cool. This year
is the first year you can see. It's paying dividends.
Like my younger sheep, like I billy have to touch any
of them, whereas my older sheep. There's still a few issues.
And but yeah, gradually telling all that.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Lettu so hang heads and the lights hasn't been in
the lights hasn't been too much of an issue so far.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Nah, here hasn't been too bad. He hasn't been too
always ant like already this morning, like the odd one. Oh,
I had a couple coming backwards. There's all that sort
of stuff you can't really do much about. But no,
they're not too bad. Still having some big lambs, but
I've got big us too, So you sort of what
you sort of hope big news are going to produce
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big lembs. And one gets stuck. It sort of is
what it is, hard and tassel of it.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
So obviously your arms back up and running. Last time
we spoke, you're in a car, so things are back
to normal.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
It's not. I got my past off Friday week ago
and with lambs on the ground next Saturday the next day. No,
I've been yeah, but it's been lucky. I've had someone
working with me for the past couple of weeks giving
me a hand, which has been good. And it's slowly, yeah,
slowly getting better and better. But yeah, the old crooking,
the heading dog's been working overtime, catching cheap and mucking around.
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But we're getting there.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
And I suppose the best thing about when you're starting
to get midway through landing, you can start doing shedding
out and just rebuilding things down the streamlining what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, yeah, I had seen. It's this afternoon's job. I'll
start getting around shedding the odd more about that's got
not much left innered and start boxing a few mobs
using lambs up the start of next week, and then
all of a sudden you're gone. You go from guard
around every pedict to four or five pedis, and then
the hogits they only take up a handful of peddocks.
That's just gets quicker and quicker and easier, so yeah,
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definitely over the over the worst of it now, I
think anyway.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
So labing hoggets, you've always done that.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I've always done it at home here, well they yeah,
the last I don't know how long I've been doing
it here. When I first moved back home three years ago,
I hadn't lamb a hoggit in my life. So I've
definitely learned a bit about it, seriously, around the whole
mating and the whole the whole process, and I still
haven't quite got it mastered, but I sort of have
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the opinion blade of grass and aultmating is quite an
extensive blade, and every mouse that's eating it has to
do something. So if the hoggets are here, they've got
to be producing lamb otherwise what's the real point of
having them.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Well, it goes back, it goes back to tapping. I
suppose what forty five forty eight kg for a hogot
going to the RAM will take it?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I try. I try to work on
about something like sixty percent of the adult weight, so
mine really need to be up around sixty around fifty
kilos sorry, And this year they went to the RAM
about forty eight, so they're not far off. But I
don't pamper them either. I sort of don't believe I
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should be pampering you lambs like they need to be
able to survive and they need to. Yeah, I find
if you pemper them and get them all in lamb
and they scan really well, and then if they have
a tough winter or a tough spring or something and
they all start and fall the bits. I never have
that pressure but on them. So I try to put
my mind under pressure, and if they get a lamb
and survive, then you don't really run into any issues
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from now on.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
That's a massive animal going to the ram. Fifty kilos, yeah, yeah,
yeah they are.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
They are big like they yeah, and shit they'll be God,
there'll be sixty that big hoga but they need but
they'll go and they've killed the lambs off man Lat's
waiting at nineteen and a half kilos, So they're producing
good lambs for me. But yeah, they do. They mow
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through some fee you there.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
So the case of you playing rugby is more or
less training for laming, I suppose for catching us. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Well that's why probably been a bit a bit harder.
I've been a wee bit under duane coming into Lembing
this year, definitely caring a few extra skinfolds and what
I normally would be. But but we're yeah, we're getting there.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Nothing wrong with insulation at this time of year. On
the body mate, hey, just before we go as well,
talking to a lot of farmers over the week last
week or two, just little tip bets they do, as
far as little life hacks for the matter of September
and the likes when you're doing the laming beat, what
do you do to try and deviate away from the mainstream?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
What will I do? It's going question. I'm a big fit,
I'm a big six. You're in the trenches and it's
pretty hard, specially on a weekday. I'm I quite enjoy
getting in my truck at lunch time and going for
a bit of a drive. I know it's pretty hard
to find the time, but where I am here in
Morte Mains, we've got a real good shot down in
Woodland's here the grocer, So I normally sneak down there,
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grab a pie and a softy roll and take the
long way home and just have a look around and
what everyone else is up to. And sometimes you see
even especially around the dairy farmers around us here. Let
you see how hard it is that you're doing it.
Some people are sometimes unfortunately doing it tougher and just
that bit of a break from your own pedics and stuff. Yeah,
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it works, wonders. And you get home at night and
my partner, I saw a busy day. You haven't been
in for lunch of me. Yes to you, I've being
flared out all day.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
And that is the one farming prerogatives. No matter where
you go, more often than not, the other half has
to drive because you're too busy looking at the landscape,
and they're getting grumpy because you're doing about sixty clicks right.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, yeah, it's all part and parcel. Wasn't it Good
on you? Mate?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
We'll leave it there. All the best of sitting out
this afternoon to appreciate your.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Time yet, good man, Andy, thank you very much for that.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Matt Ward of Morton Mainz our next case as well.
He's all about inclusive and being inclusive on the farm.
That's the word I'm after, Steve Henderson. We catch up next.
This is the muster.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
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Speaker 1 (11:44):
Steve Henderson's down at Albaa, not far from Bluff or
in the Cargo for that matter, where he farms there
on a dairy farm with his wife Tracy and family,
and joins us. Good afternoon. Steve o House sings.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
I'm not too bad things Andy here sings up your.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Way pretty good. A bit of blue sky certainly changes
the murders. It's been the dodgy thirty six hours down
here in the South. We you guys are there, you're
pretty much you're like a wind tunnel on occasions. But
how's it been, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
It hasn't been too bad. We've just we've just copped
a lot of that coastal rain in the last ten days.
We've had up with the sort of seventy meals in
the last it would be ten days, so shares that
come through are pretty hepty. So yeah, we're getting there by,
but looking back at pictures and reminiscent from last year,
we're not quite as wet as we were at the
start last year, which is a good thing.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Where would you say your rainfall tell you is for
the time of year compared to normal.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
I don't know, you know, I can't tell you that one.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
But what I can tell you.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Is was crouising around the environmentself in the website, just
looking at sew a moisture, and we peaked at through
about four or five days last year and we haven't
even hit ninety five percent at all this year. So
we were wood logged pretty much from May last year
right through it all start in October, and yes, it
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gets weed on top, and we know we're near as
saturator as we were last year. So I suppose that's
an indicator of rainfall straining away as soon as it
hits the ground at the moment, which is still good.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I bought one of those little throwout rain gauge is
that you just stick in the garden at the start
of the ears, with great intentions of doing rainfall Telly's
every day. But I tended to forget that. I had
young sons who'd like to play jokes, and all of
a sudden, my rain gauge after a rainfall lasted for
about fifteen minutes, I had ninety mils.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
As long as it wasn't wasn't yellow Raindeo tipping out.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Well, I actually I actually I contemplated it for a
start and I hit them up about it, but they
swore black and blue and it was indeed just s
h two os, So I'll give them that one. You
talk back to last year, Steve O, and it is
a different situation, right.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
I had a set. Yeah, you get these Raino beats
come through and it's a go, hell, it's going to be.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Like last year.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
But what I can see is temperatures like fourteens, fifteen
and sixteen in the forecast in the next ten days,
and we just couldn't see that last year. We've supposed
good indicators. We've got calves outside now, which we had
calves still and shed so you know it's the second
week of October because it was just that bloody. We
couldn't even keep feeders around the palace to feed them,
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so we had to keep them in the shed. So yeah,
they're all pretty good benchmarks. And at the moment we're gone,
we're going to lock it in. The last year, it's
been good luck. Last time we spoke, we had a
bit of milk fever. It's sort of yeah, tape it
off now, and he had gypsum. What's the thing we
changed there? So we got chips and gown of the
springers and milk favors sort of, yeah, touch what is
the thing of the past and always rare up in
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the old fat girls in the lake carvas. But we've
we've broken the back of it. We've got a handful
of headers left and about one hundred and fifty mixed
aage stuff left the calves. So yeah, it's coming thick
and fast and missed it as wise, we're haven't had
huge outbreaks of that, which was good and probably just
an indicator of tea conditioning and the season could be
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the last year and calf house with him, but of
crypto goes through the calf shed. So yeah, Trason Ratia
getting on top of that with a bit of healthcare
and keeping those cards as good as they can be
because we do keep all their beef calves and obviously
your replacements, so there's about the six or seven hundred
cars slating around, so you want to keep on animal health.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Is it easy to get blase about carving when you're
so far through or you just keep the pressure on
yourself to keep things the way they are.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
Now?
Speaker 4 (15:28):
I often talk about your low more counsant last one
hundred and fifty, you've got these of cars and the
first six to fifty year of calves. There's just I
don't know if you get complacent, but you find you
find other jobs to do that you've been walking past
for the last six weeks, so you start going do them,
and you may overlook that check and then herd or
being quite on the game as.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
You should be.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
So yes, I suppose in that answer it is a
bit of complacency. And you know they obviously the cons
are still putting on weight for those drills in the
cab and but October and there they're the ones that
you need to keep an eye because they're also the
ones that you want to get cycling again and hopefully
you can get them on their first cycle and get
the carpets, and so they're the most memorable cares.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Are you finding yourself giving the staff a pep talk
just to keep them up and rearing up and running.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
At the moment, it's been pretty been pretty good. So
like Trace and I ris me hand on through his sprints.
So we're there all day, not all day, but when
almost every day. And now you just catch up with
them and just make sure things are taken along and
and they know, they know, they know if they've let
something slip where, they know, if they've a good idea,
bring it to the table. So now we're just doing
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that this morning actually as catching up with round links
and the why why we're keeping this roundly? What was
splitting a herd into you know, we're putting r threes
in order to unhurt to keep the dominance and hierarchy
sort of at bay. So they've got the best chance
cycling again. And yeah, as long as as long as
you involve them into the decision making and understand and why.
Now they become pretty yeah, pretty engrossed in what you're
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doing and pretty.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Accountable because one thing that can happen on the farm,
and there's nothing worse for somebody wandering around thinking, geez,
what are we doing this situation. I made the observation
to you before somebody once said, or his life here
for your andy, if you don't know what you're doing
walking around really fast, nobody's going to question you. But
that probably doesn't cut the mustard on the farm right.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Now, doesn't know if you're walking around really fast, and
not achieving anythink that's the biggest question. So I would
I would around that, and I often say that I'd
rather you take you know, a couple of minutes and
actually think of that you take so you do not
have to double life and take everything you need at
at one point and then leave and go and do
your task and come back. So yeah, walking around really
fast as long as you're doing something cool. But yeah,
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the part it doesn't quite go.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Is it a case on your farm with your staff.
There's no dumb questions.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Exactly, No, no dumb questions. The only dumb question is
the question that's been asked maybe ten times, and yeah,
I don't know I'll ever get the answer because they
can't quite retain it. But we haven't got to that
stage yet. So no, never a dumb question. And the
old classic of this time of the years, I had
to cock up with the odd vat tap, so that
question can never be asked too many times as the
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vat tap be changed before we have milt the clossums
or milk the red cause.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
So how bad was that?
Speaker 7 (18:17):
No?
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Not too bad? No, No, we worked away around it
and that the outcome wasn't too bad. So Yeah, it's
just always been mindful of don't get too complacent and routines.
Routines good, but always be I suppose, vigilant about the
routine and make sure you're still doing what you're set
to go and do properly.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
There's very much a case of what's happened has happened. Okay,
we rectify the problem, we solve this, and we move
on right one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Yet and the worst thing you can do is is
dwell on it. And the beauty was that it was
me so always good to show good, to show stuff
that you're only human.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Toms exactly, that that's the one thing it shows that
you're you're not immune from doing the odd faux para
as well, exactly.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
And the lips have you no point of dwelling in
it because you know they will learn a hell of
a lot more by doing it wrong and the feeling
guilty than you them and being on their case and
drumming it into them that you know you're cocked up
with this, this and this and this, because they'll dwell
on that and then they'll probably you know, four or
five other things today because they think it's pretty hot
on need just about this one thing that they cocked
up and at the end of the day, no one's done.
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Things haven't really been this bad.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Wise words as always, Steve, catch up in a couple
of weeks. Hopefully the carving's all but a past memory.
Denny Steve Henderson with some wise words as well. This
is the muster up. Next a way away Momo, we'll
catch up with Warren Ross, our resident fishing guru, but
as well rallying expert. Welcome back to the master. I'm
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Andy Muer and our next case is based at Way Mumou.
His name is Warren Ross, farming out that way. Well,
good afternoon, how are you.
Speaker 8 (20:13):
I've been ending? Yeah, not too bad.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
This is a quiet time of year on the ross,
farmed by the sounds of it.
Speaker 8 (20:19):
Uh yeah, no, well probably for the majority of deer
farmers it is to be fairy, so yeah, yeah, no,
it's the animals are coming off crop and just starting
to tick around on grass and and yeah there's yeah,
there's just a quite on the year for us really.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
So like so the deer they're still on crop at
the moment.
Speaker 8 (20:38):
The staggs are all off on grass, and windows are
on grass. So it's just the a couple of mobs
kettles on on on crop but all the hinds the
store on on wouldn't say crop, but on on peddis
and can feed bayleads and are there for another it's
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really so it's just pretty much still one mud really,
so give it, give it another month or so, and
well what are we now? We're weekends September and early October.
We start looking at sea stock and horns and also
carry on. So yeah, he goes by pretty quick.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Really, have you managed to turn it over any dirts yet?
Speaker 8 (21:22):
Turning over? Not really, we have had the trip in
the peddic just grubbing up for the beat butts, you know,
and and just it gives a bit of the deer
a bit more too much on but as a role
now we don't get carried away too early, to be honest,
it's just yeah, we don't get carried away.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
So just darn Eames at the moment pretty much saying
nothing out of the ordinary and just staying dry.
Speaker 8 (21:45):
Yeah, well just really and yeah, no it's if you're
not getting carried away at all. Fire So it was
a we were free this morning, but you know, we
were snow on the honking noise. But you know, as
as just just cruise mud.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Really, did you have to compete with any sleeps or
any thing yesterday?
Speaker 8 (22:00):
No, we we mined. We managed to missed all the
all that yesterday. See, but I think, well here it
comes through overnight mostly, I think, so, I know we
we missed all the other all the bad, bad bad stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
So you'll be having a fishing trip into debt for
sounds sooner than later.
Speaker 8 (22:17):
We had a head a conversation with the old men
just not long ago, even used to say day before
and saying that we need to book at book a
book a trip in the are so we do the
longer now of course, and we're and and a bit warmer,
and so there's there's probably definitely a trip on the
cards very soon.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Actually, it's surprisingly late to the last summer. I was
up there.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
How low it was, Uh yeah, I'm sorry on what
you posted issue one day, and yeah that the lake
is very extremely low actually, so this is probably probably
about normal for the time of the year, to be honest.
Is on the hills most of the time, it's it's
it's snowing on top and you get to now and
as juniors are all it starts to start getting a
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bit of snow out and so forth, so you lot
to think of flup a little bit from now on.
But yeah, no, it's yeah, jus all winter time or
or under the spring. It's juniors the lowest.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
So this is a time of year you can start
indulging in your other newfound passage passion, sorry passage, which
is rallying. We talked about this a week while ago,
but it sounds like you're up to the bar, going
up to the Bar Plenty in the next few weeks,
but you're not sure where.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
Well not, I haventioned the list of the stages that
they're doing, and but I just can't recall of execu
we were going. But no, so I think seeking we
ked in October heading heading up to the Bad Plenty
mate from crew or the Pittory for a mate from
Quentin and yeah no, so it's yeh keeps coming around
again quick anyhow.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
So yeah, I think I've just found it for you. Actually,
as being held, it's just saying in the Bay of
Plenty for the Bay of Plenty rail in New Zealand,
which is scheduled for October the eleventh, so that doesn't
actually say whereabouts, but by a plenty. It's a big area.
Speaker 8 (24:07):
Yeah, it's a big area, but I think we're pretty
much basically at a towering or anyhow. Yeah, but you
know it's and then after that we're playing on going
to fung Ray I think the top top of North Island.
That's going to be early November, I think, so yeah,
I know there's there's another couple to go, so yeah,
it should be good.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Well at top of your driving in toad On is
if you like traffic, light side roundabouts, you'll be at home.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
Last one was here once was few years ago. There's
there's a few getting up here there, but I believe
there's a lot more there now, so it's.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
They'd be fine, it'd be fine, absolutely, And of course
the site for that is Chrissports dot co dot m Z.
The Russell Keeler actually gave you this website back when
you mentioned us a wee while ago. So first, who's
the driver you're following anyway? What's the team.
Speaker 8 (24:54):
Caleb McDonald? But basically I've had a Queensham and seeing us,
I've been following them and for the yeah, the last
few rearies, So no it's funny.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Good Yeah, absolutely, Hay, good on you al always good
to catch up and enjoy the Arvo. Good to chat, Yeah,
good to go, Warren Rossavoy Mumu being a deer farmer.
Not too much happening at the moment, but Kwell says,
the rallying season about to get up and running again
with the bath penty Rally and they're not too discent future.
(25:26):
This is the Muster up next Nick Costa and the
Beef and Lambslot.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
The Muster Events Diary brought to you by Beef and
Lamb New Zealand click Beef lambendz dot com.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
And the Beef and Lambslot. This afternoon, we are catching
up with Nick Costa, his general manager for Number eight
h R, who are bringing a workshop down south in
conjunction with Beef and Lamb on October the eighth, Nick,
welcome to the Muster Holls good and tell us all
about Number eight HR.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
What what's the go Yeah, yeah, Andy, We're a twenty
year plus people performance business, so we we operate in
a few areas. One of them is a training and
leadership development and then also recruitment and en HR. So yeah,
we're across across New Zealands and your big partner of
the dry stock and dairy sector.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
So it's all about the best ement of people, likes
of mindset and that is there what you guys are
all about with your workshops.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Yeah, we believe they kind of go hand in hand
with business performance. So you know, a healthy, healthy business
means you know, healthy community. So if we get the
people thing right and support the right you know, slams
on farms in you know, it all flows through to
the right places. So that includes well being and and
you know growing ultimately the leaders in these communities.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Well, leadership's a big thing. I have met wod On
earlier to start the program and he's a big believer
in that and just having the right mindset it and
going about jobs in the right manner, you know, and
I just it's every day life on the farmer suppose,
but it all starts in the top three inches right totally.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
And farming quite unique, isn't that.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
As we get seasonality, we get pressure points and we
live in our businesses so it's it's it's hard and
so so you know, investment in that, in that mindset,
in leadership and people's faces is worthwhile, we think.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Do you think that people can overthink things too much,
especially at this time of year?
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's it's all about planning, planning, right,
So the less you have to think, the better. So
if you're well set up, then then that always helps.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
But you know, it's always it's always.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
The case when you're out there and you know, sometimes
in isolation and you're a leader, which you know can
be those quite lonely roles. Yeah, the the brain can
keep can go pretty fast, can't it.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
So what would you see as the challenges that are
facing the real sector that have the biggest bearing on
things at the moment.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Yeah, there's a few drivers that we're seeing at the moment.
You know, farms are getting getting larger and teams as
a result, they're getting larger. So the biggest challenge that
you know, we see leaders have is that they technically
you know, excellent and then they move into these leadership
roles and it's actually a brand new toolkit that comes
with that transition. So that's that's been an ongoing challenge
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and it's getting getting harder as teams get bigger and
you know, the timing around what needs to be done
on farm at the you know, at the right time.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
It sort of sort of grows.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
As the consequences kind of get higher of getting that wrong.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
So that's a really big, you know, a really big piece.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
And in that, you know, while things are looking you
know a little, the horizons looking pretty good, and our
kind of primary sector is investment in those areas.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Is So is that what people can expect if they
come to your workshop on the eighth of October?
Speaker 5 (28:56):
Yeah, yes, So this workshop is we've been practiced seeing
the kind of theories for the last fifteen years for
this workshop, and yeah, thet it's centered around adult learning,
gets centered around practical application on farm and creating a
bit of a peer peer group, which is often the
biggest benefit. Right You've got like minded people in the
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room going through the same things that you're going through
on farm, leading your team. And it covers all the
fundamental stuff communication, performance management, some of the fundamentals of
employment law and those sorts of things.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
So what happens on the day, more or less like
people turn up and more from your perspective, what goes on?
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Yeah, yeah, good Christianity. So this is the seven seven
part series. So the first one eighth October in the
wider gaul area. And you know, for the for the
first first module, there'll be a bit of an.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Intro, you know, ice breaking, you know stuff. It won't
be you know, your traditional classroom style. It'll be you know,
a very it's a workshop. So we'll be putting in
the work, and you know, there'll be lots of lots
of breakout sessions and you know, and and examples that
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are current drawn out of out of what what happens
on farm all the time. You know, people are turning,
not late, not doing things in the right way, you
know that that sort of thing. So there will be
the general structure.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
We're sort of run from a nine a m.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
Till three p m and with a lunch break in
the middle, and roughly two months between each each series
and each each workshop is designed to build on the
last one.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
And do you catch out with participants in between the
modules as such?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah, yeah, there's a there will be a follow on
the Chicken Chicken. There there will be a level of
a level of homework.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
We don't want to make it feel like you're going
back to school too much, but yeah, there'll be there'll
be take away actions that will be kicking and on
to see how you going if if there's any more
support we can provide to kind of get them get
them moving now.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Of course it's this is happening in Gore on the
eighth of October. Beflamensed dot com slash events for more information.
It cost a general manager of number eight hr. Thanks
for your time on the muster Cole.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Thanks Andy and Clear Tittenberg as the local extension manager
at bason lambtocil which she's got all the info as well.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Residents Sporting Guru Nathan Brandon joins us once again. Nath
Good afternoon, nine to eleven. We'll talk about this briefly,
the anniversary of the demolition of the Twin Tailers due
to terrorism. Two planes going in there. Where were you
when it happened?
Speaker 6 (31:41):
Yeah, And it is one of those moments, isn't it
very somber time, even all these years on. I do
remember being at the Southern Times working there at the
time and it was sort of war hands on deck,
and I remember we put out a special edition of
the paper and furiously trying to get a hold of
southmders who were living in New York or living in
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various parts of the United States that were affected by
that was a horrible sort of terrorist act. So it was.
It was probably it was an exciting time from from
a journalism perspective, but in terms of humanity, obviously a
terrible time. And I was actually in New York three
years later for the for the I guess, the remembrance,
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the three year anniversary of it, and looking down into
what was still a massive crater where the Twin Towers
had been, and you sort of gave you a sense
of the scale. All the blown out windows of the
buildings around the place too, gave you a sense of
the scale of just what a what a huge thing
it had been.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Right this z Allbacks team Degrout Takeyaho, Lomex, Barrett Vai,
Parker saves A, Tt Hotham, Barrett Casser, Barrett Proctor, Jordan Mackenzie, Reserves, McAllister, Williams,
Neil Holland, TURRIFFI, Christie to Pia and love.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
Yeah, I guess unlike Erasmus Razor, Robertson hasn't made any
more changes than he really needed to, has He sort
of just covering those those injuries and whatnot from from
last week and the question I guess will be, you know,
can this team bring the same physicality that they were
able to provided Eden Park? And I think you know,
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Ardie Savi, after after his one hundred tests, asked the question,
really put the challenge down, I think to his teammates
to say, you know, we can. We can get up
for a big game like this when we're trying to
defend a fifty test record at eden Park, but every
every stadium in New Zealand is our home stadium and
we need to be able to bring this regardless of
where we are. And we know they've got a pretty
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average recent record in the Capital, particularly against South Africa,
so that it'll be interesting comes Saturday whether they can
whether they can do it back up two weeks in
a row.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
We talked about this briefly before we came on there.
Leroy Carter, it sounds like he's got more toe than
a Roman sandal.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
Great line, great line.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
That's a great line.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Anyway, it's an old school line.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
We might get onto old school later on. Yeah, Leroy Cardo,
huge pace, isn't it one of those aspects of the
game that you can't coach. He's an exciting talent gets it,
gets an opportunity on the back of some pretty strong
super rugby performances, isn't it. And one of those players
that sort of graduated out of the sevens program as well.
(34:23):
So it'd be great to see him get a wee
bit of space on that left wing and let him
loose see what he can do.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
The Greek keeps his place in the front row. He's
been playing pretty well.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Yeah, this is This has been a massive comeback story,
hasn't it from Ethan And obviously we follow this this closely.
He's a he's a south and a true and true Ethan,
the Greek, and he's been given his opportunity this year
and he's and he's taken. He's taken both hands. He
would have he would have loved, I'm sure that opportunity
to challenge himself against that big South African pack last
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week and he and he did more than a job.
He did a great job for the All Blacks and
it's just great to see him sort of finding that form.
It wasn't that long ago that he was probably the
best Lucy prop in the world, and you know, he's
probably rapidly getting back up here again.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Sevi Ree making his South and Stagg's debut on Sunday,
so more or less he's out of the AB's frame
for the time being.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
Definitely like the All Blacks loss and obviously some some
form issues in terms of the back three for the
All Blacks. Is Southod's game, and what a great opportunity.
Probably a late Sunday afternoon contest against Counties. Possibly not
the most inspiring sort of fear, but when you throw
in a severe rece debut, I was going to say
(35:39):
Maroon Jersey, but of course they're playing in the charity
Purple Strip this weekend, helping to raise money for that
great cause, Hawthorndale Village. So yeah, great to see severy
Reee out there be even greater if he could get
away hat trick on his in his Stag's debut, wouldn't
it and help us to a big one over over Counties? Right?
Speaker 1 (35:59):
You mentioned the word old school before we got to
address this Neple New Zealand in the sacking of Dame
Nolene Tarroa. There sounds like there is so much this
to unpack.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
It's huge, isn't it? And I think we're only hearing
sort of obliquely some of the some of the issues
that may have brought us to this point. I was
reflecting on this before and thinking probably about you know,
Ian Foster and during his coaching tenure and all blacks,
and you know, he was sitting very close to being
(36:30):
sacked and then until a sort of a delegation of
senior players went to New Zealand Rugby and said no,
he's air man and we want you to keep him.
And that was enough to keep Foster in his job
through the through the Rugby World Cup. And I guess
this is the this is the other side of the coin.
Sounds like a selection of players not happy with aspects
of Noline Dame Dame Nolen toto is coaching. But I
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guess the question for me is I can't imagine her
coaching style has changed terribly much.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Over the last a few years.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
So you know what, what is the thing that is
that has sparked sparked these issues and brought us to
this point. I've got to say, I mean, Dane Nolen
would have to be one of the most respected figures
in New Zealand netball and obviously people down in the
South have got a real soft spot for her. After
her time down coaching down here as well. So I
(37:23):
think no one's winning out of the situation at the moment,
and hopefully it can can't be brought through to a
positive conclusion.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Do you think this is a case of the precious
generation coming through?
Speaker 6 (37:33):
Yeah, whether we label it the precious generator, definitely. I
think most people involved in high performance sport recognize that
there's a generation of athlete coming through now that that
ask more questions than the players before them. They don't
want to know that, they don't just want to know what,
they want to know why, and that sort of That
has prompted some, I guess coaches to be a bit
(37:56):
more thoughtful or think differently about how they deliver messages
and that sort of thing. But at the end of
the day, it's the coach's job to get the best
out of the players and sometimes that's not all about
that's not all about hugs and kisses. It's sometimes there's
some tough love required as well, So you know, this
could well be one of those situations.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Matt winer Raight, chair of New Zealand Apple, coming out
and saying that the AZI Premiership list next year is
still going to be an exciting with all these younger
players coming through, But the reality is, Nathan, you know
what it's like. You follow netball quite a bit. A
lot of these players have gone over to Australia. It's
going to decimate the competition of top talent. Yes, these
young players are coming through, but these young fans coming
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through the gates, they want to see these top players.
Speaker 6 (38:39):
Yeah, you're dead right, mate, Seven or eight of the
New Zealand's best players plus a handful of others hitting
across the ditch or heading to other opportunities. England's out
there as well, so I think we've got a taste
of it this year. This was an opportunity for some
of those young players to come through with quite a
heavy injury toll at the start of the of the competition,
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and instead we sort of we saw some players coming
out of retirement. So I just don't know whether the
depth exists at the moment. And it's a real shame
because the I guess the New Zealand game domestically is
quite finely poised in terms of whether it's commercially sustainable
or not. And it was actually a pretty good.
Speaker 7 (39:20):
Product all in all.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
You know, with the with the changes that they made,
and it was quite a close competition, lots of lots
of close games. So after what was a reasonably positive
sort of season, this is probably the last thing that
Netble and New Zealand needs.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Get on your NAEs and always appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
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Speaker 2 (39:40):
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Speaker 1 (39:50):
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Speaker 3 (39:59):
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Speaker 1 (40:00):
For the afternoon. Appreciated your company. I'm Andy Muir. This
has been the master on hock and nui many things
for Peter's genetics. Enjoy the afternoon. See tomorrow one o'clock.
Hey well, I'll right sure, have we got there?
Speaker 3 (40:13):
And what did he go on again? For?
Speaker 1 (40:15):
I'm a twenty third PGG writes from present stock selling
action that occurred at the Charlton, So we adds this morning.
Now Dave Morrison's on the line. He's a king of
cramp who was dancing around the pub last night after tennis? Tiger?
Were you dancing in the pens today after the lamb price.
Speaker 9 (40:29):
What did we get was here we had a pretty
pretty good sale today for big for big heavy lambs.
The best of Hivy lambs the one three thirty two,
which is a good line, but I'm talking Britivy lambs
here any but that was the top price today. Mania
lambs sort of two fifty to eighty with the light
of the prime lambs store good lambs sort.
Speaker 7 (40:51):
Of ninety at the smaller of the prime prime lamps
sort of Ford Stores forty five dollars there, but yeah,
pretty good, pretty good yard have pretty small yelling as well.
Speaker 9 (41:04):
Ay, and the new section used the best of use
the park was pretty good today. He to use one
sixty one seventy so that was certainly halfy today. Menion
sort of one twenty five, one thirty with the life
of this use stage hiving around the sort of seventy
five to twenty five dollars rams and today seventy dollars
for rams today and store lambs just a couple of
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lines of stall amps and their today best of store
lambs are one thirty five at the smaller edge one
twenty one twenty five dollars and that wraps it.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Up any how high can you see these lamb prices going? Tagele,
Oh look.
Speaker 9 (41:40):
We're we're still on a high and narrow over ten dollars?
Or are we sort of anywhere from ten dollars to
ten to thy forty a K. I actually couldn't tell
you any No one really knows.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
And Barron going.
Speaker 9 (41:50):
But I believe that the best, the strongest point is
the beast.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
They're talking to.
Speaker 9 (41:53):
Beef up and maybe have another dollar Lamb maybe pretty
stable around around it, like I said, early ten and
beat can't leave it?
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Hire you you have been underracing. You say three hundred
and thirty dollars for a land. That's got to be
your record for down south.
Speaker 7 (42:06):
Uh yeah, look yeah, I think it may have been
the ending I said you last night that on top
Belfurd the Soul, which was about three eighty years play.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
So we did that play, which was good.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Last question, how's your cram? But you sworded.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Pretty good bye? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (42:21):
That pretty good on the table.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Always appreciate it when I had the last night at all,
as a matter for another day or I always appreciate
your time. I enjoyed the Abba tagleway. We didn't you
just
Good afternoon. Welcome to the muster on Hakanui. My name
is Andy Muher Here it's at two o'clock. Thanks for
Pettish and Addix. Welcome along. Hope everything's going well. Good
to see some blue sky after the last couple of
days where it's been a little bit iffee. This'd be
perfectly honest. We'll look at the four cars shortly, but
certainly makes a difference to the mood right, as does
the music today. The beg's a classic five day four.
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five point four and Woodland's six point four starting to
yell with Matt Ward farming at Morton Maze. We had
(01:23):
met on the show a few weeks back now, probably
about a month ago, and just a really interesting view
towards the farming world. A very intelligent young farming mind.
Steve Henderson Abador talking about intelligence. Steve talks about his
farm and incorporating staff into the Spring Grind, what they
do differently there from Beef and Land New Zealand. We've
got Nick Costa. Warren Ross is on the program talking, well,
(01:47):
what's happening on the farm in the moment. He's a
dear farmer, so it's a quiet time of year, but
a lot of other things going on, whether it's fishing
or rallying. A few things coming up there for a
while and residents sporting Gary Nathan Birdha and what the
hell is going on with or nipball a lot there
and to try and unwind and the All Blacks the
team has been named and sebbe Reese is making his
(02:08):
debut for the Stags, but Dave Morrison from PGG writes,
and he starts us off and to tell you what
these are, some wicker prices for lambs. Starting the l
next with Matt Ward. This is the Muster until two
o'clock thanks to Peters Genetics. Matt Ward farms at Moreton,
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Mainz and joins us this afternoon on the Muster. Now,
Matt was the twenty twenty four Beef and Lamb Young
Development Young Farm and Development Scholarship winner. He chose to
follow a path ship a path along the calog Rural
Leadership and we had him on the show well about
a month ago. I suppose it's some really interesting insights,
especially regaining New Zealand agriculture overseas. And he joins this
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this afternoon down on the cold face on the Lemming Beat. Matt, good, afternoons,
how's everything and more? To Mainz?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah good Andy? Hell are you?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah? Pretty good?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
This story, this story that we're chipping away not too
bad down here. It's cold, but sunshine and when starting
to blow to dry things out. But I'll tell you
what those heated hand grips this morning we're getting They
are on double time, man, they're working wonders.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Heated hand grips, but probably the best, one of the
best inventions for for a motorbike, especially with the hand mites.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Oh with the mets on as well. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
there's nothing better, nothing better than catching the year and
getting cold hands and put them straight back in the
midst to forget about it again.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
And if you're lucky, you had a screen as well.
But nonetheless, mate, how's thing's been anyway over the last
couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
She's been wet. Yeah, she's definitely been wet, But it's
sort of like we've had such a good run through
winter it was always going to happen, so you need
to get that rain eventually, and it's just a shame
that happen and during lemon. But in my opinion, that's
why that's why you plant shelter, and especially here in
more remains like there's not much stopping it unless you've
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got to make a carp a hedge or something to
go hide behind. So it's yeah, so that is just
what it is. You just got to keep working with today.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
So shelter for the years isn't a problem on your phone.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
No, No, it's not. I've only probably got maybe one,
two three pedics lifted or planted a bit of shelter
since I've been home, and luckily managers before me and
my father before me as well head But for sight
two pots well a step like Maker Carperhages, and then
I sort of think there's a bit of a cost
and the upkeep of them. But God, when you see
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you standing standing there this morning, I would have had
five or six years get to them under a hedge
with sets of twins on each of them, happy airs,
and then one youth standing over it dead, sit in
the middle of the peddick sort of like the hedge
just pays for it. South pretty quickly, really.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
So how far through laving would you be? Matt?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Uh? You were over halfway now? Yeah, mixt a jews
are over halfway and the Hogots starts next Friday. They'll
start chipping into it, so that would pretty yeah, cruising
through pretty quick? Really?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Are you pretty intensive on the laming beat?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
I try not to be. Yeah, I know there's definitely
people a lot more intensive than me. I still mother
the odd lamb on and mark around, but I'm trying
to avoid it as much as I can. I'm I'm
pretty I take my black pigs lost me everywhere, and
anything that I need to give a hand to or
mother wrong gets a black pig. And if I see
her again while she goes straight into my baymart, and
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if I see her again and she's on the bus.
So yeah, but then it's actually quite cool. This year
is the first year you can see. It's paying dividends.
Like my younger sheep, like I billy have to touch any
of them, whereas my older sheep. There's still a few issues.
And but yeah, gradually telling all that.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Lettu so hang heads and the lights hasn't been in
the lights hasn't been too much of an issue so far.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Nah, here hasn't been too bad. He hasn't been too
always ant like already this morning, like the odd one. Oh,
I had a couple coming backwards. There's all that sort
of stuff you can't really do much about. But no,
they're not too bad. Still having some big lambs, but
I've got big us too, So you sort of what
you sort of hope big news are going to produce
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big lembs. And one gets stuck. It sort of is
what it is, hard and tassel of it.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
So obviously your arms back up and running. Last time
we spoke, you're in a car, so things are back
to normal.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
It's not. I got my past off Friday week ago
and with lambs on the ground next Saturday the next day. No,
I've been yeah, but it's been lucky. I've had someone
working with me for the past couple of weeks giving
me a hand, which has been good. And it's slowly, yeah,
slowly getting better and better. But yeah, the old crooking,
the heading dog's been working overtime, catching cheap and mucking around.
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But we're getting there.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
And I suppose the best thing about when you're starting
to get midway through landing, you can start doing shedding
out and just rebuilding things down the streamlining what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, yeah, I had seen. It's this afternoon's job. I'll
start getting around shedding the odd more about that's got
not much left innered and start boxing a few mobs
using lambs up the start of next week, and then
all of a sudden you're gone. You go from guard
around every pedict to four or five pedis, and then
the hogits they only take up a handful of peddocks.
That's just gets quicker and quicker and easier, so yeah,
(07:22):
definitely over the over the worst of it now, I
think anyway.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
So labing hoggets, you've always done that.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I've always done it at home here, well they yeah,
the last I don't know how long I've been doing
it here. When I first moved back home three years ago,
I hadn't lamb a hoggit in my life. So I've
definitely learned a bit about it, seriously, around the whole
mating and the whole the whole process, and I still
haven't quite got it mastered, but I sort of have
(07:50):
the opinion blade of grass and aultmating is quite an
extensive blade, and every mouse that's eating it has to
do something. So if the hoggets are here, they've got
to be producing lamb otherwise what's the real point of
having them.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Well, it goes back, it goes back to tapping. I
suppose what forty five forty eight kg for a hogot
going to the RAM will take it?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I try. I try to work on
about something like sixty percent of the adult weight, so
mine really need to be up around sixty around fifty
kilos sorry, And this year they went to the RAM
about forty eight, so they're not far off. But I
don't pamper them either. I sort of don't believe I
(08:30):
should be pampering you lambs like they need to be
able to survive and they need to. Yeah, I find
if you pemper them and get them all in lamb
and they scan really well, and then if they have
a tough winter or a tough spring or something and
they all start and fall the bits. I never have
that pressure but on them. So I try to put
my mind under pressure, and if they get a lamb
and survive, then you don't really run into any issues
(08:53):
from now on.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
That's a massive animal going to the ram. Fifty kilos, yeah, yeah,
yeah they are.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
They are big like they yeah, and shit they'll be God,
there'll be sixty that big hoga but they need but
they'll go and they've killed the lambs off man Lat's
waiting at nineteen and a half kilos, So they're producing
good lambs for me. But yeah, they do. They mow
(09:21):
through some fee you there.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
So the case of you playing rugby is more or
less training for laming, I suppose for catching us. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Well that's why probably been a bit a bit harder.
I've been a wee bit under duane coming into Lembing
this year, definitely caring a few extra skinfolds and what
I normally would be. But but we're yeah, we're getting there.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Nothing wrong with insulation at this time of year. On
the body mate, hey, just before we go as well,
talking to a lot of farmers over the week last
week or two, just little tip bets they do, as
far as little life hacks for the matter of September
and the likes when you're doing the laming beat, what
do you do to try and deviate away from the mainstream?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
What will I do? It's going question. I'm a big fit,
I'm a big six. You're in the trenches and it's
pretty hard, specially on a weekday. I'm I quite enjoy
getting in my truck at lunch time and going for
a bit of a drive. I know it's pretty hard
to find the time, but where I am here in
Morte Mains, we've got a real good shot down in
Woodland's here the grocer, So I normally sneak down there,
(10:20):
grab a pie and a softy roll and take the
long way home and just have a look around and
what everyone else is up to. And sometimes you see
even especially around the dairy farmers around us here. Let
you see how hard it is that you're doing it.
Some people are sometimes unfortunately doing it tougher and just
that bit of a break from your own pedics and stuff. Yeah,
(10:40):
it works, wonders. And you get home at night and
my partner, I saw a busy day. You haven't been
in for lunch of me. Yes to you, I've being
flared out all day.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
And that is the one farming prerogatives. No matter where
you go, more often than not, the other half has
to drive because you're too busy looking at the landscape,
and they're getting grumpy because you're doing about sixty clicks right.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, yeah, it's all part and parcel. Wasn't it Good
on you? Mate?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
We'll leave it there. All the best of sitting out
this afternoon to appreciate your.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Time yet, good man, Andy, thank you very much for that.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Matt Ward of Morton Mainz our next case as well.
He's all about inclusive and being inclusive on the farm.
That's the word I'm after, Steve Henderson. We catch up next.
This is the muster.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
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Speaker 1 (11:44):
Steve Henderson's down at Albaa, not far from Bluff or
in the Cargo for that matter, where he farms there
on a dairy farm with his wife Tracy and family,
and joins us. Good afternoon. Steve o House sings.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
I'm not too bad things Andy here sings up your.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Way pretty good. A bit of blue sky certainly changes
the murders. It's been the dodgy thirty six hours down
here in the South. We you guys are there, you're
pretty much you're like a wind tunnel on occasions. But
how's it been, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
It hasn't been too bad. We've just we've just copped
a lot of that coastal rain in the last ten days.
We've had up with the sort of seventy meals in
the last it would be ten days, so shares that
come through are pretty hepty. So yeah, we're getting there by,
but looking back at pictures and reminiscent from last year,
we're not quite as wet as we were at the
start last year, which is a good thing.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Where would you say your rainfall tell you is for
the time of year compared to normal.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
I don't know, you know, I can't tell you that one.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
But what I can tell you.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Is was crouising around the environmentself in the website, just
looking at sew a moisture, and we peaked at through
about four or five days last year and we haven't
even hit ninety five percent at all this year. So
we were wood logged pretty much from May last year
right through it all start in October, and yes, it
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gets weed on top, and we know we're near as
saturator as we were last year. So I suppose that's
an indicator of rainfall straining away as soon as it
hits the ground at the moment, which is still good.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I bought one of those little throwout rain gauge is
that you just stick in the garden at the start
of the ears, with great intentions of doing rainfall Telly's
every day. But I tended to forget that. I had
young sons who'd like to play jokes, and all of
a sudden, my rain gauge after a rainfall lasted for
about fifteen minutes, I had ninety mils.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
As long as it wasn't wasn't yellow Raindeo tipping out.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Well, I actually I actually I contemplated it for a
start and I hit them up about it, but they
swore black and blue and it was indeed just s
h two os, So I'll give them that one. You
talk back to last year, Steve O, and it is
a different situation, right.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
I had a set. Yeah, you get these Raino beats
come through and it's a go, hell, it's going to be.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Like last year.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
But what I can see is temperatures like fourteens, fifteen
and sixteen in the forecast in the next ten days,
and we just couldn't see that last year. We've supposed
good indicators. We've got calves outside now, which we had
calves still and shed so you know it's the second
week of October because it was just that bloody. We
couldn't even keep feeders around the palace to feed them,
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so we had to keep them in the shed. So yeah,
they're all pretty good benchmarks. And at the moment we're gone,
we're going to lock it in. The last year, it's
been good luck. Last time we spoke, we had a
bit of milk fever. It's sort of yeah, tape it
off now, and he had gypsum. What's the thing we
changed there? So we got chips and gown of the
springers and milk favors sort of, yeah, touch what is
the thing of the past and always rare up in
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the old fat girls in the lake carvas. But we've
we've broken the back of it. We've got a handful
of headers left and about one hundred and fifty mixed
aage stuff left the calves. So yeah, it's coming thick
and fast and missed it as wise, we're haven't had
huge outbreaks of that, which was good and probably just
an indicator of tea conditioning and the season could be
(15:00):
the last year and calf house with him, but of
crypto goes through the calf shed. So yeah, Trason Ratia
getting on top of that with a bit of healthcare
and keeping those cards as good as they can be
because we do keep all their beef calves and obviously
your replacements, so there's about the six or seven hundred
cars slating around, so you want to keep on animal health.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Is it easy to get blase about carving when you're
so far through or you just keep the pressure on
yourself to keep things the way they are.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
Now?
Speaker 4 (15:28):
I often talk about your low more counsant last one
hundred and fifty, you've got these of cars and the
first six to fifty year of calves. There's just I
don't know if you get complacent, but you find you
find other jobs to do that you've been walking past
for the last six weeks, so you start going do them,
and you may overlook that check and then herd or
being quite on the game as.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
You should be.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
So yes, I suppose in that answer it is a
bit of complacency. And you know they obviously the cons
are still putting on weight for those drills in the
cab and but October and there they're the ones that
you need to keep an eye because they're also the
ones that you want to get cycling again and hopefully
you can get them on their first cycle and get
the carpets, and so they're the most memorable cares.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Are you finding yourself giving the staff a pep talk
just to keep them up and rearing up and running.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
At the moment, it's been pretty been pretty good. So
like Trace and I ris me hand on through his sprints.
So we're there all day, not all day, but when
almost every day. And now you just catch up with
them and just make sure things are taken along and
and they know, they know, they know if they've let
something slip where, they know, if they've a good idea,
bring it to the table. So now we're just doing
(16:35):
that this morning actually as catching up with round links
and the why why we're keeping this roundly? What was
splitting a herd into you know, we're putting r threes
in order to unhurt to keep the dominance and hierarchy
sort of at bay. So they've got the best chance
cycling again. And yeah, as long as as long as
you involve them into the decision making and understand and why.
Now they become pretty yeah, pretty engrossed in what you're
(16:58):
doing and pretty.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Accountable because one thing that can happen on the farm,
and there's nothing worse for somebody wandering around thinking, geez,
what are we doing this situation. I made the observation
to you before somebody once said, or his life here
for your andy, if you don't know what you're doing
walking around really fast, nobody's going to question you. But
that probably doesn't cut the mustard on the farm right.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Now, doesn't know if you're walking around really fast, and
not achieving anythink that's the biggest question. So I would
I would around that, and I often say that I'd
rather you take you know, a couple of minutes and
actually think of that you take so you do not
have to double life and take everything you need at
at one point and then leave and go and do
your task and come back. So yeah, walking around really
fast as long as you're doing something cool. But yeah,
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the part it doesn't quite go.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Is it a case on your farm with your staff.
There's no dumb questions.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Exactly, No, no dumb questions. The only dumb question is
the question that's been asked maybe ten times, and yeah,
I don't know I'll ever get the answer because they
can't quite retain it. But we haven't got to that
stage yet. So no, never a dumb question. And the
old classic of this time of the years, I had
to cock up with the odd vat tap, so that
question can never be asked too many times as the
(18:09):
vat tap be changed before we have milt the clossums
or milk the red cause.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
So how bad was that?
Speaker 7 (18:17):
No?
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Not too bad? No, No, we worked away around it
and that the outcome wasn't too bad. So Yeah, it's
just always been mindful of don't get too complacent and routines.
Routines good, but always be I suppose, vigilant about the
routine and make sure you're still doing what you're set
to go and do properly.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
There's very much a case of what's happened has happened. Okay,
we rectify the problem, we solve this, and we move
on right one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Yet and the worst thing you can do is is
dwell on it. And the beauty was that it was
me so always good to show good, to show stuff
that you're only human.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Toms exactly, that that's the one thing it shows that
you're you're not immune from doing the odd faux para
as well, exactly.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
And the lips have you no point of dwelling in
it because you know they will learn a hell of
a lot more by doing it wrong and the feeling
guilty than you them and being on their case and
drumming it into them that you know you're cocked up
with this, this and this and this, because they'll dwell
on that and then they'll probably you know, four or
five other things today because they think it's pretty hot
on need just about this one thing that they cocked
up and at the end of the day, no one's done.
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Things haven't really been this bad.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Wise words as always, Steve, catch up in a couple
of weeks. Hopefully the carving's all but a past memory.
Denny Steve Henderson with some wise words as well. This
is the muster up. Next a way away Momo, we'll
catch up with Warren Ross, our resident fishing guru, but
as well rallying expert. Welcome back to the master. I'm
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Andy Muer and our next case is based at Way Mumou.
His name is Warren Ross, farming out that way. Well,
good afternoon, how are you.
Speaker 8 (20:13):
I've been ending? Yeah, not too bad.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
This is a quiet time of year on the ross,
farmed by the sounds of it.
Speaker 8 (20:19):
Uh yeah, no, well probably for the majority of deer
farmers it is to be fairy, so yeah, yeah, no,
it's the animals are coming off crop and just starting
to tick around on grass and and yeah there's yeah,
there's just a quite on the year for us really.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
So like so the deer they're still on crop at
the moment.
Speaker 8 (20:38):
The staggs are all off on grass, and windows are
on grass. So it's just the a couple of mobs
kettles on on on crop but all the hinds the
store on on wouldn't say crop, but on on peddis
and can feed bayleads and are there for another it's
(21:00):
really so it's just pretty much still one mud really,
so give it, give it another month or so, and
well what are we now? We're weekends September and early October.
We start looking at sea stock and horns and also
carry on. So yeah, he goes by pretty quick.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Really, have you managed to turn it over any dirts yet?
Speaker 8 (21:22):
Turning over? Not really, we have had the trip in
the peddic just grubbing up for the beat butts, you know,
and and just it gives a bit of the deer
a bit more too much on but as a role
now we don't get carried away too early, to be honest,
it's just yeah, we don't get carried away.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
So just darn Eames at the moment pretty much saying
nothing out of the ordinary and just staying dry.
Speaker 8 (21:45):
Yeah, well just really and yeah, no it's if you're
not getting carried away at all. Fire So it was
a we were free this morning, but you know, we
were snow on the honking noise. But you know, as
as just just cruise mud.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Really, did you have to compete with any sleeps or
any thing yesterday?
Speaker 8 (22:00):
No, we we mined. We managed to missed all the
all that yesterday. See, but I think, well here it
comes through overnight mostly, I think, so, I know we
we missed all the other all the bad, bad bad stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
So you'll be having a fishing trip into debt for
sounds sooner than later.
Speaker 8 (22:17):
We had a head a conversation with the old men
just not long ago, even used to say day before
and saying that we need to book at book a
book a trip in the are so we do the
longer now of course, and we're and and a bit warmer,
and so there's there's probably definitely a trip on the
cards very soon.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Actually, it's surprisingly late to the last summer. I was
up there.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
How low it was, Uh yeah, I'm sorry on what
you posted issue one day, and yeah that the lake
is very extremely low actually, so this is probably probably
about normal for the time of the year, to be honest.
Is on the hills most of the time, it's it's
it's snowing on top and you get to now and
as juniors are all it starts to start getting a
(23:02):
bit of snow out and so forth, so you lot
to think of flup a little bit from now on.
But yeah, no, it's yeah, jus all winter time or
or under the spring. It's juniors the lowest.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
So this is a time of year you can start
indulging in your other newfound passage passion, sorry passage, which
is rallying. We talked about this a week while ago,
but it sounds like you're up to the bar, going
up to the Bar Plenty in the next few weeks,
but you're not sure where.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
Well not, I haventioned the list of the stages that
they're doing, and but I just can't recall of execu
we were going. But no, so I think seeking we
ked in October heading heading up to the Bad Plenty
mate from crew or the Pittory for a mate from
Quentin and yeah no, so it's yeh keeps coming around
again quick anyhow.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
So yeah, I think I've just found it for you. Actually,
as being held, it's just saying in the Bay of
Plenty for the Bay of Plenty rail in New Zealand,
which is scheduled for October the eleventh, so that doesn't
actually say whereabouts, but by a plenty. It's a big area.
Speaker 8 (24:07):
Yeah, it's a big area, but I think we're pretty
much basically at a towering or anyhow. Yeah, but you
know it's and then after that we're playing on going
to fung Ray I think the top top of North Island.
That's going to be early November, I think, so yeah,
I know there's there's another couple to go, so yeah,
it should be good.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Well at top of your driving in toad On is
if you like traffic, light side roundabouts, you'll be at home.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
Last one was here once was few years ago. There's
there's a few getting up here there, but I believe
there's a lot more there now, so it's.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
They'd be fine, it'd be fine, absolutely, And of course
the site for that is Chrissports dot co dot m Z.
The Russell Keeler actually gave you this website back when
you mentioned us a wee while ago. So first, who's
the driver you're following anyway? What's the team.
Speaker 8 (24:54):
Caleb McDonald? But basically I've had a Queensham and seeing us,
I've been following them and for the yeah, the last
few rearies, So no it's funny.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Good Yeah, absolutely, Hay, good on you al always good
to catch up and enjoy the Arvo. Good to chat, Yeah,
good to go, Warren Rossavoy Mumu being a deer farmer.
Not too much happening at the moment, but Kwell says,
the rallying season about to get up and running again
with the bath penty Rally and they're not too discent future.
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This is the Muster up next Nick Costa and the
Beef and Lambslot.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
The Muster Events Diary brought to you by Beef and
Lamb New Zealand click Beef lambendz dot com.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
And the Beef and Lambslot. This afternoon, we are catching
up with Nick Costa, his general manager for Number eight
h R, who are bringing a workshop down south in
conjunction with Beef and Lamb on October the eighth, Nick,
welcome to the Muster Holls good and tell us all
about Number eight HR.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
What what's the go Yeah, yeah, Andy, We're a twenty
year plus people performance business, so we we operate in
a few areas. One of them is a training and
leadership development and then also recruitment and en HR. So yeah,
we're across across New Zealands and your big partner of
the dry stock and dairy sector.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
So it's all about the best ement of people, likes
of mindset and that is there what you guys are
all about with your workshops.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Yeah, we believe they kind of go hand in hand
with business performance. So you know, a healthy, healthy business
means you know, healthy community. So if we get the
people thing right and support the right you know, slams
on farms in you know, it all flows through to
the right places. So that includes well being and and
you know growing ultimately the leaders in these communities.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Well, leadership's a big thing. I have met wod On
earlier to start the program and he's a big believer
in that and just having the right mindset it and
going about jobs in the right manner, you know, and
I just it's every day life on the farmer suppose,
but it all starts in the top three inches right totally.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
And farming quite unique, isn't that.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
As we get seasonality, we get pressure points and we
live in our businesses so it's it's it's hard and
so so you know, investment in that, in that mindset,
in leadership and people's faces is worthwhile, we think.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Do you think that people can overthink things too much,
especially at this time of year?
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's it's all about planning, planning, right,
So the less you have to think, the better. So
if you're well set up, then then that always helps.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
But you know, it's always it's always.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
The case when you're out there and you know, sometimes
in isolation and you're a leader, which you know can
be those quite lonely roles. Yeah, the the brain can
keep can go pretty fast, can't it.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
So what would you see as the challenges that are
facing the real sector that have the biggest bearing on
things at the moment.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Yeah, there's a few drivers that we're seeing at the moment.
You know, farms are getting getting larger and teams as
a result, they're getting larger. So the biggest challenge that
you know, we see leaders have is that they technically
you know, excellent and then they move into these leadership
roles and it's actually a brand new toolkit that comes
with that transition. So that's that's been an ongoing challenge
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and it's getting getting harder as teams get bigger and
you know, the timing around what needs to be done
on farm at the you know, at the right time.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
It sort of sort of grows.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
As the consequences kind of get higher of getting that wrong.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
So that's a really big, you know, a really big piece.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
And in that, you know, while things are looking you
know a little, the horizons looking pretty good, and our
kind of primary sector is investment in those areas.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Is So is that what people can expect if they
come to your workshop on the eighth of October?
Speaker 5 (28:56):
Yeah, yes, So this workshop is we've been practiced seeing
the kind of theories for the last fifteen years for
this workshop, and yeah, thet it's centered around adult learning,
gets centered around practical application on farm and creating a
bit of a peer peer group, which is often the
biggest benefit. Right You've got like minded people in the
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room going through the same things that you're going through
on farm, leading your team. And it covers all the
fundamental stuff communication, performance management, some of the fundamentals of
employment law and those sorts of things.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
So what happens on the day, more or less like
people turn up and more from your perspective, what goes on?
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Yeah, yeah, good Christianity. So this is the seven seven
part series. So the first one eighth October in the
wider gaul area. And you know, for the for the
first first module, there'll be a bit of an.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Intro, you know, ice breaking, you know stuff. It won't
be you know, your traditional classroom style. It'll be you know,
a very it's a workshop. So we'll be putting in
the work, and you know, there'll be lots of lots
of breakout sessions and you know, and and examples that
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are current drawn out of out of what what happens
on farm all the time. You know, people are turning,
not late, not doing things in the right way, you
know that that sort of thing. So there will be
the general structure.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
We're sort of run from a nine a m.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
Till three p m and with a lunch break in
the middle, and roughly two months between each each series
and each each workshop is designed to build on the
last one.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
And do you catch out with participants in between the
modules as such?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah, yeah, there's a there will be a follow on
the Chicken Chicken. There there will be a level of
a level of homework.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
We don't want to make it feel like you're going
back to school too much, but yeah, there'll be there'll
be take away actions that will be kicking and on
to see how you going if if there's any more
support we can provide to kind of get them get
them moving now.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Of course it's this is happening in Gore on the
eighth of October. Beflamensed dot com slash events for more information.
It cost a general manager of number eight hr. Thanks
for your time on the muster Cole.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Thanks Andy and Clear Tittenberg as the local extension manager
at bason lambtocil which she's got all the info as well.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Residents Sporting Guru Nathan Brandon joins us once again. Nath
Good afternoon, nine to eleven. We'll talk about this briefly,
the anniversary of the demolition of the Twin Tailers due
to terrorism. Two planes going in there. Where were you
when it happened?
Speaker 6 (31:41):
Yeah, And it is one of those moments, isn't it
very somber time, even all these years on. I do
remember being at the Southern Times working there at the
time and it was sort of war hands on deck,
and I remember we put out a special edition of
the paper and furiously trying to get a hold of
southmders who were living in New York or living in
(32:02):
various parts of the United States that were affected by
that was a horrible sort of terrorist act. So it was.
It was probably it was an exciting time from from
a journalism perspective, but in terms of humanity, obviously a
terrible time. And I was actually in New York three
years later for the for the I guess, the remembrance,
(32:23):
the three year anniversary of it, and looking down into
what was still a massive crater where the Twin Towers
had been, and you sort of gave you a sense
of the scale. All the blown out windows of the
buildings around the place too, gave you a sense of
the scale of just what a what a huge thing
it had been.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Right this z Allbacks team Degrout Takeyaho, Lomex, Barrett Vai,
Parker saves A, Tt Hotham, Barrett Casser, Barrett Proctor, Jordan Mackenzie, Reserves, McAllister, Williams,
Neil Holland, TURRIFFI, Christie to Pia and love.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
Yeah, I guess unlike Erasmus Razor, Robertson hasn't made any
more changes than he really needed to, has He sort
of just covering those those injuries and whatnot from from
last week and the question I guess will be, you know,
can this team bring the same physicality that they were
able to provided Eden Park? And I think you know,
(33:18):
Ardie Savi, after after his one hundred tests, asked the question,
really put the challenge down, I think to his teammates
to say, you know, we can. We can get up
for a big game like this when we're trying to
defend a fifty test record at eden Park, but every
every stadium in New Zealand is our home stadium and
we need to be able to bring this regardless of
where we are. And we know they've got a pretty
(33:40):
average recent record in the Capital, particularly against South Africa,
so that it'll be interesting comes Saturday whether they can
whether they can do it back up two weeks in
a row.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
We talked about this briefly before we came on there.
Leroy Carter, it sounds like he's got more toe than
a Roman sandal.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
Great line, great line.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
That's a great line.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Anyway, it's an old school line.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
We might get onto old school later on. Yeah, Leroy Cardo,
huge pace, isn't it one of those aspects of the
game that you can't coach. He's an exciting talent gets it,
gets an opportunity on the back of some pretty strong
super rugby performances, isn't it. And one of those players
that sort of graduated out of the sevens program as well.
(34:23):
So it'd be great to see him get a wee
bit of space on that left wing and let him
loose see what he can do.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
The Greek keeps his place in the front row. He's
been playing pretty well.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Yeah, this is This has been a massive comeback story,
hasn't it from Ethan And obviously we follow this this closely.
He's a he's a south and a true and true Ethan,
the Greek, and he's been given his opportunity this year
and he's and he's taken. He's taken both hands. He
would have he would have loved, I'm sure that opportunity
to challenge himself against that big South African pack last
(34:56):
week and he and he did more than a job.
He did a great job for the All Blacks and
it's just great to see him sort of finding that form.
It wasn't that long ago that he was probably the
best Lucy prop in the world, and you know, he's
probably rapidly getting back up here again.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Sevi Ree making his South and Stagg's debut on Sunday,
so more or less he's out of the AB's frame
for the time being.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
Definitely like the All Blacks loss and obviously some some
form issues in terms of the back three for the
All Blacks. Is Southod's game, and what a great opportunity.
Probably a late Sunday afternoon contest against Counties. Possibly not
the most inspiring sort of fear, but when you throw
in a severe rece debut, I was going to say
(35:39):
Maroon Jersey, but of course they're playing in the charity
Purple Strip this weekend, helping to raise money for that
great cause, Hawthorndale Village. So yeah, great to see severy
Reee out there be even greater if he could get
away hat trick on his in his Stag's debut, wouldn't
it and help us to a big one over over Counties? Right?
Speaker 1 (35:59):
You mentioned the word old school before we got to
address this Neple New Zealand in the sacking of Dame
Nolene Tarroa. There sounds like there is so much this
to unpack.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
It's huge, isn't it? And I think we're only hearing
sort of obliquely some of the some of the issues
that may have brought us to this point. I was
reflecting on this before and thinking probably about you know,
Ian Foster and during his coaching tenure and all blacks,
and you know, he was sitting very close to being
(36:30):
sacked and then until a sort of a delegation of
senior players went to New Zealand Rugby and said no,
he's air man and we want you to keep him.
And that was enough to keep Foster in his job
through the through the Rugby World Cup. And I guess
this is the this is the other side of the coin.
Sounds like a selection of players not happy with aspects
of Noline Dame Dame Nolen toto is coaching. But I
(36:54):
guess the question for me is I can't imagine her
coaching style has changed terribly much.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Over the last a few years.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
So you know what, what is the thing that is
that has sparked sparked these issues and brought us to
this point. I've got to say, I mean, Dane Nolen
would have to be one of the most respected figures
in New Zealand netball and obviously people down in the
South have got a real soft spot for her. After
her time down coaching down here as well. So I
(37:23):
think no one's winning out of the situation at the moment,
and hopefully it can can't be brought through to a
positive conclusion.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Do you think this is a case of the precious
generation coming through?
Speaker 6 (37:33):
Yeah, whether we label it the precious generator, definitely. I
think most people involved in high performance sport recognize that
there's a generation of athlete coming through now that that
ask more questions than the players before them. They don't
want to know that, they don't just want to know what,
they want to know why, and that sort of That
has prompted some, I guess coaches to be a bit
(37:56):
more thoughtful or think differently about how they deliver messages
and that sort of thing. But at the end of
the day, it's the coach's job to get the best
out of the players and sometimes that's not all about
that's not all about hugs and kisses. It's sometimes there's
some tough love required as well, So you know, this
could well be one of those situations.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Matt winer Raight, chair of New Zealand Apple, coming out
and saying that the AZI Premiership list next year is
still going to be an exciting with all these younger
players coming through, But the reality is, Nathan, you know
what it's like. You follow netball quite a bit. A
lot of these players have gone over to Australia. It's
going to decimate the competition of top talent. Yes, these
young players are coming through, but these young fans coming
(38:36):
through the gates, they want to see these top players.
Speaker 6 (38:39):
Yeah, you're dead right, mate, Seven or eight of the
New Zealand's best players plus a handful of others hitting
across the ditch or heading to other opportunities. England's out
there as well, so I think we've got a taste
of it this year. This was an opportunity for some
of those young players to come through with quite a
heavy injury toll at the start of the of the competition,
(39:02):
and instead we sort of we saw some players coming
out of retirement. So I just don't know whether the
depth exists at the moment. And it's a real shame
because the I guess the New Zealand game domestically is
quite finely poised in terms of whether it's commercially sustainable
or not. And it was actually a pretty good.
Speaker 7 (39:20):
Product all in all.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
You know, with the with the changes that they made,
and it was quite a close competition, lots of lots
of close games. So after what was a reasonably positive
sort of season, this is probably the last thing that
Netble and New Zealand needs.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Get on your NAEs and always appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Lovely things, mate, laugh.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Out loud with ag proud because life on the land
can be a laughing matter. Brought to us by sheer
Well data working to help the livestock farmer.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom has
never put one into a fruit salad.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Believe it.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
For the afternoon. Appreciated your company. I'm Andy Muir. This
has been the master on hock and nui many things
for Peter's genetics. Enjoy the afternoon. See tomorrow one o'clock.
Hey well, I'll right sure, have we got there?
Speaker 3 (40:13):
And what did he go on again? For?
Speaker 1 (40:15):
I'm a twenty third PGG writes from present stock selling
action that occurred at the Charlton, So we adds this morning.
Now Dave Morrison's on the line. He's a king of
cramp who was dancing around the pub last night after tennis? Tiger?
Were you dancing in the pens today after the lamb price.
Speaker 9 (40:29):
What did we get was here we had a pretty
pretty good sale today for big for big heavy lambs.
The best of Hivy lambs the one three thirty two,
which is a good line, but I'm talking Britivy lambs
here any but that was the top price today. Mania
lambs sort of two fifty to eighty with the light
of the prime lambs store good lambs sort.
Speaker 7 (40:51):
Of ninety at the smaller of the prime prime lamps
sort of Ford Stores forty five dollars there, but yeah,
pretty good, pretty good yard have pretty small yelling as well.
Speaker 9 (41:04):
Ay, and the new section used the best of use
the park was pretty good today. He to use one
sixty one seventy so that was certainly halfy today. Menion
sort of one twenty five, one thirty with the life
of this use stage hiving around the sort of seventy
five to twenty five dollars rams and today seventy dollars
for rams today and store lambs just a couple of
(41:27):
lines of stall amps and their today best of store
lambs are one thirty five at the smaller edge one
twenty one twenty five dollars and that wraps it.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Up any how high can you see these lamb prices going? Tagele,
Oh look.
Speaker 9 (41:40):
We're we're still on a high and narrow over ten dollars?
Or are we sort of anywhere from ten dollars to
ten to thy forty a K. I actually couldn't tell
you any No one really knows.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
And Barron going.
Speaker 9 (41:50):
But I believe that the best, the strongest point is
the beast.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
They're talking to.
Speaker 9 (41:53):
Beef up and maybe have another dollar Lamb maybe pretty
stable around around it, like I said, early ten and
beat can't leave it?
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Hire you you have been underracing. You say three hundred
and thirty dollars for a land. That's got to be
your record for down south.
Speaker 7 (42:06):
Uh yeah, look yeah, I think it may have been
the ending I said you last night that on top
Belfurd the Soul, which was about three eighty years play.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
So we did that play, which was good.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Last question, how's your cram? But you sworded.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Pretty good bye? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (42:21):
That pretty good on the table.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Always appreciate it when I had the last night at all,
as a matter for another day or I always appreciate
your time. I enjoyed the Abba tagleway. We didn't you
just
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