December 10, 2025 • 45 mins
Andy Muir talks to Eric Roy, Matt McRae, Nathan Burdon, Will Halliday, Warren Ross, Nathan Burdon and David Morrison.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Good afternoon, and welcome to the master on Hakanoi andim
You're here until two o'clock thanks to Peter Gelix. Thanks
for your company on a beautiful afternoon here on the
main street of Gtown. Blue sky and abundance, a little
bit of cloud on the horizon. Perfect afternoon for Eugeno
Knew or to Salvator's birthday, Happy Birthday, gobble nonetheless, get
straight into it. Music for today's You two.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Hakanui's five day forecast with twin farm tear from and
soft text. The proof is in the progeny tear from
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Speaker 1 (00:47):
This afternoon shells of breezy north westerlies and a high
of eighteen Friday cloud you were breezy westerly six and fifteen.
Saturday Sunday you were like northeasterly seven and twenty two.
Sunday Sunday you're like northerlies thirteen and twenty five and
Monday showers of rezon or Eastlelys ten and twenty three.
Clinton fourteen point nine gets us underway for sild temperatures
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northern south of the Riverton fifteen point one to our
sixteen point three titerow of fourteen point seven, Winton's thirteen
point three at Woodland's at fourteen point three with Eric
Roy getting us underway for a Thursday afternoon looking at
changes or proposed changes to the Resource Management Act and
what impact Eric thinks it's going to have member Cray
(01:28):
Farms at Macharita. We catch up to see how the
season is there for one last time in twenty twenty
five Warren Ross Farms at wait Moomoo, going from mockereda
away Moony see our while's coping and the lead up
to Christmas well holidays here in the Beef and lambslot,
talking about hornets have been discovered up in the North Island,
up around Auckland and what to look for if you
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happen to see one. Not that they're in the South
by any stretch, but yeah, just something else that's popped
up on the horizon through the borders and a residents
sporting gury Nathan Burn as well. We talk a bit
of rugby, sebbe Reese heading away overseas and the tourist
Southland as well, something looked forward to. In January, Dave
Morrison from PGG Rights and gives an update from the
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stock sale that was out at children this morning and
in the cricket came Williamson looked really good until he
got out just before lunch, just on lunchtime. Actually, the
last time I checked it was around one hundred and
eleven for two. Devin Conway in there going pretty well.
So without further ado, we'll start the hour next with
Eric Roy. This is the Muster until two o'clock thanks
to Betters Genetics. Eric Roy has a farm in the
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Fjordland Basin. He's wore a number of hats over the years,
including being an MP for a long time up there
in Parliament and as well recently was the chair of
the New Zealand Port Board. And we catch up on
a regular basis.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Good afternoon here, good afternoon, sunshining into you now, a
beautiful day. Can't complain about anything.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, you were saying before, you're just going to get
on top of that tractor work.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
A good day will finish it. Now. I'm poised. I'm poised.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
So we talk about these changes to Arima's that have
been proposed by Chris Bishop. You've had a little skinny
game in the game over the years there I reckon
more ways than one it'll be interesting to get your
viewpoint around this. Is this going to be a good thing?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Look, I think if it leans in the right place.
My only concern is that to get these things exactly
right takes a bit of time and quite a bit
of work, and the timetrames that they put on this
might might be a bit of a handicap to getting
it exactly right. And as long as they're open to
recognizing amendments, might be the case. But you know, I'm
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sure other MPs saying it takes several years to get
this right and we need one clause that someone can
get into that will delay and hold that up. But look,
do I think it's a good idea. Yes, we needed
to have a look at it, either personally or in
things I'm associated with. I've done subdivisions and zone changing
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of land and a few things, and it's just a nightmare.
And it's subject to so much interpretation by someone who's
trying to make a name for themselves, or that's mind you.
I can't think of any other reason why they'd be
so difficult. It's just time that we got into having
a look at and sorting out the best way forward. Look,
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if everybody's in agreement. Why should a planning officer say
you can't do this, or you need to do that,
or these are our rules, and so that stuff certainly
needs to be streamlined.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
That's for short over zealous compliance officers. You are not
alone in your thinking.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Deareric Well, we're not naming anybody or any particular council
or territorial authorities. We're just saying there's evidence that this
stuff needed to be addressed, and I think this is
a good start. We're just going to make sure lands
in the right place and if we find an anomaly,
get ready to fix it before it becomes another problem.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Because resource the Resource Management Act on its zone has
such a broad aspect to it as well. That's a
big thing to understand. And this document is massive. So
there's only certain things that you need to understand from
a farming perspective.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Surely, Well, that's true, but the Resource Management Act. I've
brought about five acts together in nineteen ninety four in
the Town and Country Planning Act and quite a few
others and address that and that needed to be done
at the time. We've now had thirty years of it.
So we need to say, well, where can it work better?
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And that's where I think Chris Bishop has probably hit
the market. It's just saying it's time to address it,
but let's get on and do it.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Is there a case essential government but government though being
too heavy handed in its rulings for like the regional
councilors to implement things well.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
This would be one of my concerns about the reforms
that have come alongside this arima in terms of where
the government wants to structural restructure the whole territory of
territorial authorities and regional councils. And to some degree, I
think they've found the regional councils to be a bit
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of a possum that they want to demonize and be
a reason why growth hasn't happened as fast as it shode.
That may be the case in some places, but and
I'm speaking as an individual here, not as my counselor
had in the regional council. But if you look at Southland,
it's absolutely unique in the country. There isn't another regional
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area that has the same issues. We've got three angry
rivers that can flood the wire of the Matwa and
the Arena. You've got another couple of Marima and the
Macariva that can do that. We've got the longest coastline
of any regional council in the country, and there's two
national parks bordering those. We've got all these things to manage.
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We've got one hundred thousand people and so I don't
think the local mayors want us to buy into this
and say, you know, we can do this job. So
actually having a unitary council that's controlled by a board
of mayas, I think we need to go back and
have another look at that see if that's the best
way to do it. And from Southern's point of view,
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we're head of the government on this. We've got the
Local Government Commission having a look at South and then
saying well what do we need here? Is the unitary
Council going to be the way? What's the structure? How
many territorial authorities do we need? And I just hope
and that's going to be an occasion where there's absolute
consultation with every sector of South and this EWI, ecological whatever.
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They're all going to have a say in that with
the Local Government Commission, and I just hope that mister
Bishop lets that process run before he comes out and
says no, a board of me is and now going
to run this.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Well, perhaps this is the opportunity to revamp the whole
council structure as well, given that over two hundred elected
officials to local government got their jobs recently without having
any to have to go do any campaigning of the
likes we're including mayors around the country. So jagumen is there.
We need to streamline this for unnecessary costs.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Oh, look, I think that's that's absolutely right. And and
to some extent, they've also been cost plus industries they
and some of the government has loaded onto them and
things that they have to do, and then you need
to pack that up with science and that employees small people,
and so the ratepayer has been the one who's had
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to fund all this, And then that needs to be
a bit of a regress, and I say put it
on the table. Let's have a look. Let's see what
is the best way that we can do this and
protect people's property rights, their health and anything else that
needs to happen in what the role of those territorial
authorities and regional councils. Let's have a look at it.
(09:19):
I'm not frightened at doing that, but.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
It's interesting too. We looked at a farming viewpoint regarding
resource consents or just the consenting process in general, making
it easier for farming just to exist because that is
what is needed to happen for a very long time.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Oh look, and I think I certainly think that this
coalition understands that the figures for exporting for the last
year one hundred billion and sixty billion of that was
from primary industry. That is our business and we have
to facilitate that while we recognize that the environment has
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to be managed and looked after. To get on and
help those people. And when you see some of the
things that are coming and now hold Her and a
whole range of things there that are just open to us,
and we need to be able to say, let's have
a look at how we can do the whole thing better.
And my expectation is that that percentage of sixty percent
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exports is going to increase. The other thing I'd say
is this supposing I had but there's a very high
net in what is New Zealand and what we export
from primary production. If you've got a manufacture invasion, importing
molding and raw materials and everything else. Agriculture is basically
just a bit of fert and add water, and so
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there's a very high net in that sixty billion that
we export, much much higher than the other forty percent
that has high inputs on imports into it before it's
really you know, remodified and exported.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Just finally, Eric, how would you look at the past
twelve months from a farming perspective.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Well, I think we've seen a redressing of the fact
that meat proteins have not been in the same kind
of role that they traditionally have. Look, I've been farming
sinside nineteen sixty five on and off, and traditionally milk
powder and red meat proteins have been within ten percent
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of each other, and milklowder got away ahead and that
brought some changes to the way in which countrysides work.
But now that looks like and I'm hoping that we've
hit a new plateau and we can all work forward
on that. So it's been great to see that the
part of agriculture that is kind of struggling is the
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arable sector. They've had increased costs, but there hasn't been
an increase in their products, So those guys they'll be
looking for a good Christmas in a good new year.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Speaking of good Christmas, Arrah Croy, you, Elizabeth and the family,
you enjoy it, and we'll catch up in twenty twenty six. Well,
you always appreciate your time on the Muster.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
And it's been my pleasure. And can I just wish
all our listeners the very best for Christmas and have
a prosperous new year.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Eric Roy talking a lot of scenes around the arim
This is the Muster up. Next, we're a way to
Mocker Reader and let's catch up with Matt McCrae. Welcome
(12:40):
back to the Muster, you too, as the band or
the artist. The song is where the streets have no name,
Mocker Reader. I don't think there's many streets around there,
but we do find plenty of farms. In this afternoon,
we catch up once again with Matt McCrae. Matt, good afternoon,
how's mighty MOCKERRETA.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Good afternoon, Andy, your sun shining in another barmy summer
seven days. Yeah, it's great at the moment.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
This isn't This isn't always the case down here in
the Deep South, though. The last couple of weeks of
tortoised that right.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Yeah, No, it's we've had plenty of wind which has
dried things out of late, I think. Yeah, someone sent
me the soil moistograph from med and now there a
couple of weeks ago and it was about as live
as it have been in the last twelve months, which
is quite unusual at this time of the year. But
we've Yeah, we had fifteen mins of rain last week
and kind of the rest of the showers going around
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this But yeah, at this stage it suits their climate.
The things are humming along pretty nicely. The stock is
certainly enjoying it.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Well, you're notorious for quite a consistent rainfall there at
this time of year. Do you start thinking to yourself,
I'll take any rain on offer for the next six
weeks because you're not sure what January is going to bring. Well,
are you generally a bit more summer safe?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Yeah, there's a draught and mockerator, there's bigger issues at play,
and I'd say so we're pretty pretty summer safe. If
we go three weeks without a decent and terrain, we'd
think their throats cap but they yeah, vir ginerally one
hundreds a month and might be one month a year
that we don't get there in one months we get
three time set. But yeah, pretty summer safe country here.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
So you've got the tack of hammering at the moment.
A good quality lamb fade.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Yeah there is.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Obviously we've got really top feed over lembing and mine
that covers a weave back, but it's meant that. Yeah,
the quality has been good the whole way through, which
has got the lambs have certainly picked up a lot
in the last couple of weeks with a bit more
sunshine on their back, and yeah, surprising started doing a
wee bit of weaning and they're looking pretty good, certainly
well up on us years. Yeah, feed quality is pretty
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good and managed to get a crop ground out and
all the winter crops now on the ground and should
nearly all be through the grounds. Yeah, things are looking
pretty good. We'll get waning out of the way and
start worrying about a bit of balas and things like that.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Shortly for wing waiting for you guys. Is it like
a lord of the rings and it's it's ongoing over
the course of a couple of weeks. So has it
over and done with them a couple of days. It's
more of a thirty minutes set com.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Now. I we like to do it out of way,
but yeah, we've done. We ended up waning at chunk
of their maternals this week. We've swapped it up away.
But this year they were mid September lemming, but wined
them and got a handful away out of them this week.
And yeah, we're going to do with our terminals and
singles next week. So seeing the capacity thuies aren't the
same of Gonda, left them as light as possible to
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get as many of them as way off mums expecting
looking at them and the peut we should get a
fee of good worker for them a way off mum
next week and we'll spread that over a couple of
days to try and avoid drenching them too late in
the day. We kind of start early and be Hea
leans back in the pedict for lunch stomps, so you
can see the afternoon for mustering up and getting a
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break for the following day. So yeah, spread it over
a few days if we can.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
That's the interesting thing at the moment, Matt, which you
alluded to the fact that getting getting stuck into the
works isn't a problem.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Yeah, it's quite different. They keep telling us at next
week's full, next week's fold. But yeah, I haven't seen
it in some plants. Some plants in some instances they
may be, but so phony of competition for lambs out
there at the moment, and so good short term position
for the farmers to be in with that competitions driving
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some pretty healthy process. We haven't seen the slide in
the schedule that a lot we're predicting for December. So yeah,
if you ask the questions, it's amazing what you get.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
And of course there are figures were released by BEF
Lamb yesterday regarding the national lamb crop for this year.
They're predicting, well what twenty five to twenty six season
is estimated at nineteen point six million head, which is
a list of one percent one hundred and eighty eight
thousand more lambs on last season. We're talking to new
performance and the likes, but that's just pretty much the
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season we've had. But I found this figure surprising. At
the same time, I thought, due to change of farm
practice and the likes, those figures would have been slightly lower.
So it's good that it stayed where it was.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Yeah, that was great news. Isn't it good to see
a bit of a list that just goes to show
how last spring was then, especially in Otago South, and
I realized there's a lot of areas that were probably
more this year. But yeah, it's good to see that
performance or resilience and the numbers down to shine through.
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So hopefully positive advices might drive away bit more of
that and we can if you know, the hold on
us next year would be might helpful some of these
plants up a bit more.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Do you think it's a case of supply and demand
around the world with is that less a lamb available
to what there used to be? Is it still going
to be a premium product? And there will be enough
people throughout the world who want to take on this
product even though it is dearer. Though the answer just
almost seems to be yes to would.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Agree, Yeah, Yeah, I definitely I agree. I guess we
don't want to processselves out of the market where lamb
is at the moment, as should be clearly profitable for
most second big summers. So if we can get a
stabilized period where it is at the moment and put
a bit of money in the bank would be quite
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good and it might encourage a bit of an investment
back into the industry, which has been well over Joe.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
As far as we're always seeing little lifts in the market,
there will certainly some big lifts. Do you think we're
going this is going to be sustained going forward and
perhaps well may have another day in the sun.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Yeah, I would like to think so. I'll see there's
some good contracts coming out for lambswall in January, so
we're just going the lining up whether or not recrupted
or see your lambs for during that period. So it
would I'd like to think it's sustainable, but it's still
pretty disappointing compared to where it was. So I've only
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been back farming for thirteen years and it's still not
as well as what it was when I started. And
I know there's plenty of people that would have better
stories than that. But it is encouraging to start start
paying for the sharing cost of sharing, which is a
good start. Just be nice to be making some money
off it, because not many things you do in life
you would do for break even.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Would you absolutely just finally as well, ram selling season
at your place and so the guns to the gunnel.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Yeah, so we'll all go at the moment. Just getting
set up for RAMS tomorrow. It's the first one in
my head. I'm hosting it on farm, so it's soaked
up a few days in between winning and everything else
the last few weeks getting it all set up. But yeah,
I'm pretty happy with how the rams are looking, and
it's kind of an uncomfortable nervous place to be in
but pretty exciting at the same time to them sorrow
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them all up there and let the let farmers be
the judge of what bench on the chiefs. Yeah, you're
in Lucien tomorrow afternoon. Be good to see you for
a beer if nothing else.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Nothing wrong with a bear in December. Matt, Hey, thanks
to your time on the Muster of this afternoon and
through the year as well. Have a good Christmas, take
a bit of time off and we'll catch up in
January at some stage.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Sounds good. Andy, you have a good Christmas. Factone and
you listens out there. I hope you have a good
break over the first of season.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Matt McCrae of Mocar reader all the yems you're listening
to the muster up next well, Holliday from Beef and
That New Zealand. We're talking hornets.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
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Speaker 1 (20:51):
And joining us this afternoon from Beef and Air New
Zealander is Will Holliday. Will Welcome to the Muster once again.
Always good to catch up.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
Yeah, Andy, it's been a while, but yeah, great to
talk to you.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
We're talking today about the yellow legged hornets where we're
hearing a bit of us in the media, especially up
in Auckland where there's been quite a few side things
around it, but it's kind of still a mystery for
a lot of people.
Speaker 7 (21:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
So the Ministry for Primary Industries have found these hornets.
They are in the north shore of Auckland. I think
they've found about thirty odd queens now that that have
built little nests or actually quite large nests. Yeah, and
they're a bit of a concern because what they do
is they attack worker bees. So they're quite cunning. They
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hover outside bee hives and they capture these worker bees
as they emerge from the bee hive. And so it's
a bit of a concern that they're going to impact
these hives and the ability for bees to pollinate things.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Is it fair to say that a honey industry could
be under attack if these get established?
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Yep, yep. Absolutely. If they can establish, get out of
Auckland and establish in the wider country, that could be
a major impact to the honey industry. But not just
to them. Just think of all the other crops and
plants that need or that rely on these for pollination.
I'm thinking things like kiwi fruit, certain fruit trees, and
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you know the one thing that we all rely on
is clover.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
So how do they get established in Auckland will just
from overseas obviously, but just through cargo and got through
the tracks.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
Oh look, that's a great question, Andy, And I don't know,
and I'm sure that that's part of the investigation that's ongoing,
or you know, something will come out in the in
the wash once the response has been has been concluded.
But I think we need to just remember that, you know,
by security, it's not a wall, it's a net. And
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you know, we do pretty well at capturing most things
before they establish in New Zealand, but every so often
something like this gets in it and it requires a
response and potentially something ongoing. So you know, we can't
spend all the money trying to keep things out. We
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can we can capture as much as.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
We can because they also thrive on flies, bees, And
did I say at wasps? So wasps do have the
encryptonite after all?
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Yeah, yeah, I guess you could look at the silver lighting. However,
you know, yeah that that they're pretty nasty and apparently
if you do approach them will make them angry. They
can give you quite a nasty thing as well. So yeah,
I mean, given all all the reasons, I think it's
best if we can try and get rid of these things.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, so what's a major difference between a hornet nest
and a wasp nest?
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Right?
Speaker 6 (24:00):
So, I'm actually looking at the NPI website right now,
and I encourage people, if they are interested in this,
to go to the MPI website because there's some great
photos on there. And yeah, these things they can create
a nest apparently as large as eighty centimeters tool, which
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if you think about that, that's quite a big nest.
But what they've been finding is these these smaller nests
are what they call an embryo or primary nest that
the queens build themselves, and that's about the size of
a tennis ball, and they sort of hang from a
tree branch or under the eaves of houses or sheds, So.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Very similar to the way that wasps established tea.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
Similar to the paper wasp. And I think what we
have been hearing is a lot of I wouldn't say
false reports. I'd say, you know, a bit of mistaken
identity where people are reporting to MPI that they think
they've got them and it does turn out to be
a paper wasp. But but I certainly encourage people to
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keep reporting because every one of these nests that we
find is really significant.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Same question again, how do you differentiate between a wasp
and a hornet?
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Right?
Speaker 6 (25:24):
The main thing is the size. So these hornets they
are about up to about an inch long or two
and a half centimeters long, whereas your standard, your German
wasp is a lot slimmer and shorter. And then when
you get down to your paper wasps, they're only about
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half the size of these hornets. So they're significantly large
insect by by you know, relatively, and so yeah, that's
that's the number one thing. Really, But if you go
on to the MPI website be able to see a
really good close up photo with some really good distinguishing
features that will help you identify them.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
But the main thing to remember at the moment this
has only been found in the Auckland region. We're just
giving people an indication if they see something out of
the ordinary down here, then there's a possibility perhaps and
that's all it is, that it could be your hornet.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
Absolutely. You know, we're in the response phase in Auckland,
specifically on the north shore, but for the rest of
the country. You know, we're really asking for people to
get out and if they see something unusual, do let
us know or do let mp I know, because you know,
we want to make sure that we can contain this
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and then and then try and eradicate it from where
it is.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Well, Holiday, thanks very much your time on the muster
and here is hoping we keep this pest where it belongs.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
Absolutely, Andy, pleasure to talk to you. We'll catch you
ladder mate.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Well Holiday had a lamb, so once again the yellow
legged hornet. It's bigger than a wasp and we will
just make this clear. It hasn't been found in the
South Island yet, only up in the Auckland region. It's
certainly something to look out for you they or hornets.
What if you got You've got the what was it
the Bill Cosby Show back in the day. It was
a show within a show. Fad Albert and the Gang,
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the Brown Hornet back in the early eighties for those
that remember that, right, and Charlotte Hornets in the NBA.
Apart from that, kind of an unknown quality but nonetheless
as well. I'll go to bflairmenz dot com to get
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the artists that's sung there with her out to you.
I left to google how old that song is. I'm
thinking nineteen eighty seven other likes, which seems a scary
long time ago. Warren Ross Farms at Way Mooy. We
catch up every couple of weeks.
Speaker 8 (28:11):
Good afternoon while yeah after the andy and listeners.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
How's everything going up in Mighty White Momoy?
Speaker 8 (28:17):
Yeah, not too bad. It's ly indy, so you know,
we're just prepping on on things and yeah, pretty much
gonna everything done we need to get done for Christmas. Really, sir,
I wouldn't say we're going to have a cruizy lead
up for Christmas, but yeah, yeah, just in long quite nicely.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
How's the velvet in going.
Speaker 8 (28:34):
Yeah, yeah, now as we're still tripping away at that,
and we'll be tripping away that for a little while
yet still trying to still killing a few, so yeah,
we just won't be as much regress to do come
next year, so no, it would be Yeah, even that
sort of think is going to make it a lot
easier and quarter which is good.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yes, how are you changing your dynamics there? What's going on?
Speaker 8 (28:55):
Well, we're actually got where we're out of the least
block turning heats on the first of May. So we're
going to keep all the beef kews in beef kettle
and replace it well and replace the stags with themes
and of course the beef cross is all pretty pretty
very strong at the moment. So yeah, that's what we're
sort of tagging at the moment, sort of ditching the
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bevering steggs and getting into the into the beef market
a bit more.
Speaker 7 (29:19):
Was that a.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Reflection of the velvet market A little bit the a
bit of it and just going to be everything really,
to be honest, you're just it's just a mixture of yeah,
the profucts almos suppose, so everything else side just taking
along what you've got the grass growing, yep.
Speaker 8 (29:35):
No, grass is cranking along a right with cutting, cutting
balads and side one cuptain solids today for tomorrow and.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
We are planting my last pegg of the grass.
Speaker 8 (29:45):
Uh, you know, everything's everything's all the eggwork to be done,
you know now. So yeah, no sort of reading up
to the date with anything. So probably about three or
four pegs of balance Luke befool Christmas is probably we'll
putting it's up.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Probably.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Could you make quite a bit of Baylors throughout the season.
Speaker 8 (30:03):
We have done in the past, but I think this
year we're going to try and not to make quite
as much. And we've got we do have a lot
more melves, a lot more meles on board, so hopefully
we don't have to make as much.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Well it's going to be a lot more, Alex. I
suppose when you get rid of the dear side of things.
Speaker 8 (30:21):
Well that's right here, not yet, so whether I'm miss
them or not, I'm not sure, but I.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Do believe we'll have still have a few any hell because.
Speaker 8 (30:28):
We won't be able to kill them more than any hell.
So true, And I'm not sure if there's I'm not
too sure if there's much of a market for upsteads
at the moment. So the time will tell.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, the cattle industry as well, certainly on a high
at the moment, as is the lamb and new sectors too,
So a lot of puzzles you can take away there.
You look at your centergy of the farm and you
just want to make things work, I suppose, so you've
got to do these adjustments they occur.
Speaker 8 (30:53):
Well, I think that's what a lot of farmers look
at too. And everyone's different, but you know, you just
sort of a debt. But some pieces and and sometimes
it's not huge, huge numbers either way, but it's just
it is still worth looking around at options to go ahead.
Someone tell when you stay they were forced to breading
the risk around and diverse, diverse fies, you know, and
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that's that's a great thing, you know, And diversification. This
year for us we've been low has probably it's been
a good thing.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Well, it's like back in the early two thousands when
dairy grazing of heif has made of may certainly became
a proposition for a lot of sheep and beef farmers,
and gradually over time as this option has become a
lot more viable for both parties and certainly has been
part of a lot of farming synergies. And you can
understand why.
Speaker 8 (31:38):
Yeah, absolutely, So we've had a fairly good report over
the years two with with the graves as we've had
on board, So you know, it's been it's been a
good sort of income over these So.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
How would you rate the farming year on a whole
I was talking to Mett McCrae earlier in the Yeller
and he said that he is pretty pretty content with
the way that she can beef farming was looking at
the moment. So would you share that sentiment?
Speaker 8 (32:00):
Is it probably would be clear like the whole farming
industry is actually probably in a reasonally good place. The
weather the velves down, and the grain guys are struggling
a little bit, But I mean outside that the weather, Yeah,
there hasn't been all that bad for the whole year. Yes,
there was a bit average and nasty, but it actually
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hasn't been all that bad. And and you look at
the groundwork when it did come right, we got on
the groundwork pretty pretty smartly really, So all in all,
I don't think they's been all that bad.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
You're a fishing guru here on the mustard while you'll
be heading up to the lakes, and no doubt.
Speaker 8 (32:37):
Yeah, no, let's see, we'll be getting away for a decent,
decent break and I think there's a quick plane over
the hill some stage in between. So yeah, we won't
have to be rushing home to do velvet well, probably handful,
but not as many as what we have done in
the past. We'll be but we will be coming back
and forward stop still need moved and feed and watered
and was to carry on. So we'll be coming game
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a bit between and Corsa. And it's the beauty of it,
of course that says he just so close about.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
One hundred and forty five clicks are an hour and
a half and you're there. It certainly makes a lot
of sense.
Speaker 8 (33:12):
Absolutely, So we can we get up at six o'clock
in the morning and scoot home and and two of
us and in Garth brother in law, and three of
us and he made his lawns and we get some animals,
and yeah, it's and then came. Sometimes we can pick
up there by by lunchtime, but after now it's it
is quite close to handy.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
So you can honestly say that Gath doesn't take you
away on maneuvers, and you're up there by lunchtime.
Speaker 8 (33:37):
Every day, not every day.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Occasionally he leads me astray, but yeah, okay, don't believe
that for a moment. Good on you gas. You know
you're listening more often than not. But just in general,
it's just been one of those seasons really when we
look forward.
Speaker 8 (33:52):
To Yeah, no, it's absolutely it is a silly season.
Of course it has to be down by the twenty fifth,
but you know it doesn't really have to be. You know, well,
crops need to be in, but of course you're going
to come to graph. It doesn't really matter too much
this year.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
Next to you, another good.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
On your wild We'll let you carry on your mirry way.
We've always appreciated you taking the time out of your
busy schedule to heavy yarm of us on the mustard,
so you enjoy the break, go and catch some big
fish and we'll do it all again next year.
Speaker 8 (34:20):
Yeah, no, gonna go to acause everybody to have a
safe and happy years.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Warren Ross a boy murmoo. So this song here with
All without you. I googled it. It is a Joshua
Tree and it came out in nineteen eighty seven, so
twenty eight. Oh what a nineteen eighty nineteen one two.
It's old. Let's just put it that way. Classic song, no, nonetheless.
Nathan Brandon's up next. All the promise, This says the
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muss on Hakkanui Residents Sporting Gury. Nathan Burnan joins us
once again. Good ay, nath mate, how are you pretty good?
You too? All I want is you? From the Wrestling
hum album of nineteen eighty nine. Great great band, back.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
In the good old days before they before they got
a little bit weird. I'm not a messive concert concert goer,
but I have been to you two a couple of
times at Mount Smart and they put on a pretty
good show.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Zoo Roper was arguably when they started to Jump the shark.
Speaker 7 (35:30):
Yeah, jump the shark, get a bit political, get a
bit bono, sort of got a bit, got a bit loose,
really didn't he? But yeah, that old stuff fantastic.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Sebu Reese, good old Southland Swede Sevu. He's flying the
coop from New Zealand Rugby at the end of the year,
going over to Purple Gong, only if they don't drop
divisions apparently. But look, you can't ask you. The guy
has been a great servant for the Crusaders and the
All Blacks as well, and you're not really for Southland, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (35:59):
A mess of massive servant for the Crusaders, hasn't he
since twenty nineteen the leading trist is actually a little
bit surprised by this, but the leading tri scorer in
all Super Rugby for New Zealand. It's a fantastic effort
hopefully would bring up one hundred games for the Crusaders
in the in the next year's competition. So he's been
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he's been great for them. And yeah, so it was
cleenty of excitement when he when he signed with Southend
and there was a lot of excitement obviously when he
when he finally made that appearance in a Marine Jersey.
Unfortunately didn't get touched the ball much and that was
a game that will probably prefer to prefer to forget,
but just I guess it just shows you the fleeting
nature of sports term and he was arguably, you know
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very much and that the starting winger for the All
Blacks at the beginning of this campaign, but it was
almost a forgotten man by the end of it. So
you know, you can't blame these guys for as they
start that sort of inevitable slide that they that they
want to cash in.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
You take a Jay Rockets sit of any sort of Zipavata.
Was a couple of wingers off the top of my
head who've played a lot of rugby in New Zealand,
were really good players as well, went overseas and that's
just the nature of the beast, right They've got to
go overseas and make hay while the sun shines to
corner phrase.
Speaker 7 (37:14):
Yeah, a couple of great names of New Zealand World
rugby the year, isn't it. And I guess it's some
of that top end that top end speed. When I
think of severe rece, I think about probably know what
arguably might be the last try that he scored for
the All Blacks, you know, against Wales, where he had
basically no room to move and he managed to completely
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skin the defender on the outside who never even got
a fingernail on him. That was just it was just
a classic sort of severe Reese try and I guess,
you know, if that's sort of the lasting impression that
he leaves on All Black rugby, and then then it
was a pretty good one.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
The All Black schedule next year, seventeen games lined up
and that's without the finals of this new competition they're doing.
They've got this tour to South Africa. They're getting to
play the Sharks, Stormers, the Bulls and the Lions as well,
these what we're super rugby franchises. But it's a big
schedule for next season too. It's going to be a
big year. When you think about it, you can.
Speaker 7 (38:13):
Understand why they're going to keep as much as they can.
They're going to keep the likes of the Sevy Reeses
on ice through next year. It's a huge buffet of
rugby and some massive sort of initiatives in terms of
this greatest rivalry aspect that they're promoting against greats to
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the South Africa, and you know, I guess the part
of the thing is going to be great to have
a toil to get their teeth stuck into, but it
will be a massive challenge in terms of the all
Black resources next year, so that'll probably be be really
interesting to watch on and see how Scott Robertson and
that the coaching management try and manage that. There's a
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lot of Rugby Nations Cup. But by the same token,
this is this massive commercial imperative isn't here to try
and drive the branding and try and create as much
commercial revenue as they can.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
The Black Caps bowling stocks, they go from bad to worse.
Blair Techna had a great debut us today but then
heard his shoulder sliding to save a ball. So once
again we're going to see the depth tested.
Speaker 7 (39:22):
Yeah, it only feels like five minutes ago that we
were sort of raving about just how deep we were
in terms of New Zealand New Zealand seam attack. But
nowadays you sort of, I guess every time the phone rooms,
you're sort of having a lot to see. It might
be New Zealand Cricket selector ring to see if you're
available or not. But yeah, it's been a it's been
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a horror run. Players getting injured in these last couple
of games, and also players who were either being rested
or were injured out before that, the likes of your
Cole Jamison's and your Willow Rourks, these sorts of guys.
So I don't know, I don't know if there's been
a time in recent memory, well we've we've been in
a sort of injury stricken status, so particularly in that
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in that one area of the game. So no surprise,
I guess, you know, after carrying such a heavy workload
in the second half of that that first Test, that
Jake Duffy and Zach folks aren't as penetrative as as
we'd like so far in this Test. I mean they
just bowled themselves into the ground in that first Test,
isn't they.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Well, who's got plenty of time for practice? There've been
the England cricket team. Now they're under the fire, under
fire once again. They've gone up to news of all
players for a few days of our and r photos
of them having a couple of quiets and playing on
the beach, which is understandable. You're on tilly, you've been
away for a month, you need to unwind. But somebody
came out of the Great Call yesterday saying RNDA McCallum,
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the greatest, the greatest redemption for New Zealand cricket as
far as payback, we're getting the twenty nineteen final at Lord's.
Speaker 7 (40:52):
It's I mean, it's a it's a it's a long
and an arduous tour, isn't it of Australia, And I
guess it just became longer and even more arduous when
you're two down and I think there's only been one
team that's ever come back from that to win a series,
so pretty testing times. You have to imagine the likes
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of the likes of Bears and probably some other guys
there potentially fighting for their for their playing and coaching careers.
But it's hard to see them really turning this ship around,
which must be pretty frustrating given it's I mean, it's
a handy it's a handy Australian team, but it's not
one of it. It's not one of the great Australian teams,
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I don't think, but by any shape. But they just
I guess where they've got it is. They've got it
in the top the top two inches. They mentally they
are so much stronger than this English team and when
times get tough, there's definitely you definitely put your money
on the Assies rather than the English.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Yeah, Mitchell Stark, let's be honest. So he lives in
the heads of Kiwi's rent free. Now just finally the
Tour of South and the dates for this has been
changed jee to the weather, we'd realize that it's happening
in January.
Speaker 7 (42:04):
Yeah, interesting, So Easts Bent touris south and rescheduled from
its traditional time frame in the in the first week
of November, pushed out to mid jen traffic were we
were obviously still in a state of emergency in November
and yeah, so exciting times for for a mid gen week.
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It'll be a good field, potentially even stronger than the
field that we would have had in November. Likes of
Josh Burnette, two time winter coming back to ride. He
wouldn't have been here in November, so great to have
him on board. And slightly different some course changes. Queen's
Park not available, so moving out to a ye Kiwi
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area for the for the initial time trial and also
when the when the race gets back to town on
the following Saturday afternoons. So in Bcargo also hosting the
New Zealand Criterium Championships on the saying course the day before,
so bringing a whole lot of cycling down here in
the middle of January, and New Zealand's best writers will
(43:09):
be on display.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
So pretty exciting, absolutely nice. Always appreciate your time. This
chat one last time for twenty twenty five next week.
Always appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (43:18):
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like that? Anyway, that's us for the afternoon. I'm Andy Muller.
This has been the muster on Hakanui. Many thanks paid
the genetics enjoyed the afternoon podcast going up shortly see
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Speaker 8 (44:07):
Too, he'll go there And what did he go on again?
Speaker 1 (44:08):
For?
Speaker 8 (44:09):
I'm a twenty five again.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Stock selling action occurred this morning at the charlt And
Sale yeah, it's courtesy of PGG. Right, so we catch
up with David Morrison and give us a rundown on prices.
Could I take or how do we go good?
Speaker 5 (44:19):
And you're pretty good today? Any to start with the
spring lanes, the best spring names two twenty to two thirty,
the millions for the around it's the one seventy five
to one eighty five, and just a the lighter light
spring lanes. A few of them probably should have been
in the open the stores for the one fifty one
to sixty end of the muttin your Mutton was to
be beck with again today the big head of us.
Speaker 10 (44:41):
Are any sort of sort of two ten to twenty
big big, that's the.
Speaker 5 (44:43):
Big big here.
Speaker 10 (44:44):
To use the many views for one seventy five to
one eighty and then use the best year around it
to the one twenty five to thirty five doors. We
had a half dozen pens all ends in there today. Yeah,
I selling pretty much on pales the last couple of weeks.
The best all m one fifty to one to fifty
five million names for one thirty one thirty five. Just
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the small small wee lambs run into on hundred and
hundred and five dollars.
Speaker 5 (45:11):
We also had the I C Sale here today, Andy,
which is obviously very very good cause we're pushing one
hundred cabs and which is donated donated by a from
the dairy farmers, supported by about four purchases annual purchases.
That was purchases, i should say, which is very good.
So the best of the ball best the freezing boys
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six hundred and six fifteen and the best the beefies
six to fifty to seven, with the off types putting
down as lower as sort of three fifty to four
to fifty dollars and thet you're rested up.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Will give me for the Hey, just finally, Tago, have
you got last sale for the year next week?
Speaker 5 (45:48):
Did another another fund next week? Mate?
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Yep, for sure, Ruddy, you're good on yet
Good afternoon, and welcome to the master on Hakanoi andim
You're here until two o'clock thanks to Peter Gelix. Thanks
for your company on a beautiful afternoon here on the
main street of Gtown. Blue sky and abundance, a little
bit of cloud on the horizon. Perfect afternoon for Eugeno
Knew or to Salvator's birthday, Happy Birthday, gobble nonetheless, get
straight into it. Music for today's You two.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
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Speaker 1 (00:47):
This afternoon shells of breezy north westerlies and a high
of eighteen Friday cloud you were breezy westerly six and fifteen.
Saturday Sunday you were like northeasterly seven and twenty two.
Sunday Sunday you're like northerlies thirteen and twenty five and
Monday showers of rezon or Eastlelys ten and twenty three.
Clinton fourteen point nine gets us underway for sild temperatures
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northern south of the Riverton fifteen point one to our
sixteen point three titerow of fourteen point seven, Winton's thirteen
point three at Woodland's at fourteen point three with Eric
Roy getting us underway for a Thursday afternoon looking at
changes or proposed changes to the Resource Management Act and
what impact Eric thinks it's going to have member Cray
(01:28):
Farms at Macharita. We catch up to see how the
season is there for one last time in twenty twenty
five Warren Ross Farms at wait Moomoo, going from mockereda
away Moony see our while's coping and the lead up
to Christmas well holidays here in the Beef and lambslot,
talking about hornets have been discovered up in the North Island,
up around Auckland and what to look for if you
(01:51):
happen to see one. Not that they're in the South
by any stretch, but yeah, just something else that's popped
up on the horizon through the borders and a residents
sporting gury Nathan Burn as well. We talk a bit
of rugby, sebbe Reese heading away overseas and the tourist
Southland as well, something looked forward to. In January, Dave
Morrison from PGG Rights and gives an update from the
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stock sale that was out at children this morning and
in the cricket came Williamson looked really good until he
got out just before lunch, just on lunchtime. Actually, the
last time I checked it was around one hundred and
eleven for two. Devin Conway in there going pretty well.
So without further ado, we'll start the hour next with
Eric Roy. This is the Muster until two o'clock thanks
to Betters Genetics. Eric Roy has a farm in the
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Fjordland Basin. He's wore a number of hats over the years,
including being an MP for a long time up there
in Parliament and as well recently was the chair of
the New Zealand Port Board. And we catch up on
a regular basis.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Good afternoon here, good afternoon, sunshining into you now, a
beautiful day. Can't complain about anything.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, you were saying before, you're just going to get
on top of that tractor work.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
A good day will finish it. Now. I'm poised. I'm poised.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
So we talk about these changes to Arima's that have
been proposed by Chris Bishop. You've had a little skinny
game in the game over the years there I reckon
more ways than one it'll be interesting to get your
viewpoint around this. Is this going to be a good thing?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Look, I think if it leans in the right place.
My only concern is that to get these things exactly
right takes a bit of time and quite a bit
of work, and the timetrames that they put on this
might might be a bit of a handicap to getting
it exactly right. And as long as they're open to
recognizing amendments, might be the case. But you know, I'm
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sure other MPs saying it takes several years to get
this right and we need one clause that someone can
get into that will delay and hold that up. But look,
do I think it's a good idea. Yes, we needed
to have a look at it, either personally or in
things I'm associated with. I've done subdivisions and zone changing
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of land and a few things, and it's just a nightmare.
And it's subject to so much interpretation by someone who's
trying to make a name for themselves, or that's mind you.
I can't think of any other reason why they'd be
so difficult. It's just time that we got into having
a look at and sorting out the best way forward. Look,
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if everybody's in agreement. Why should a planning officer say
you can't do this, or you need to do that,
or these are our rules, and so that stuff certainly
needs to be streamlined.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
That's for short over zealous compliance officers. You are not
alone in your thinking.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Deareric Well, we're not naming anybody or any particular council
or territorial authorities. We're just saying there's evidence that this
stuff needed to be addressed, and I think this is
a good start. We're just going to make sure lands
in the right place and if we find an anomaly,
get ready to fix it before it becomes another problem.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Because resource the Resource Management Act on its zone has
such a broad aspect to it as well. That's a
big thing to understand. And this document is massive. So
there's only certain things that you need to understand from
a farming perspective.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Surely, Well, that's true, but the Resource Management Act. I've
brought about five acts together in nineteen ninety four in
the Town and Country Planning Act and quite a few
others and address that and that needed to be done
at the time. We've now had thirty years of it.
So we need to say, well, where can it work better?
(05:51):
And that's where I think Chris Bishop has probably hit
the market. It's just saying it's time to address it,
but let's get on and do it.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Is there a case essential government but government though being
too heavy handed in its rulings for like the regional
councilors to implement things well.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
This would be one of my concerns about the reforms
that have come alongside this arima in terms of where
the government wants to structural restructure the whole territory of
territorial authorities and regional councils. And to some degree, I
think they've found the regional councils to be a bit
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of a possum that they want to demonize and be
a reason why growth hasn't happened as fast as it shode.
That may be the case in some places, but and
I'm speaking as an individual here, not as my counselor
had in the regional council. But if you look at Southland,
it's absolutely unique in the country. There isn't another regional
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area that has the same issues. We've got three angry
rivers that can flood the wire of the Matwa and
the Arena. You've got another couple of Marima and the
Macariva that can do that. We've got the longest coastline
of any regional council in the country, and there's two
national parks bordering those. We've got all these things to manage.
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We've got one hundred thousand people and so I don't
think the local mayors want us to buy into this
and say, you know, we can do this job. So
actually having a unitary council that's controlled by a board
of mayas, I think we need to go back and
have another look at that see if that's the best
way to do it. And from Southern's point of view,
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we're head of the government on this. We've got the
Local Government Commission having a look at South and then
saying well what do we need here? Is the unitary
Council going to be the way? What's the structure? How
many territorial authorities do we need? And I just hope
and that's going to be an occasion where there's absolute
consultation with every sector of South and this EWI, ecological whatever.
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They're all going to have a say in that with
the Local Government Commission, and I just hope that mister
Bishop lets that process run before he comes out and
says no, a board of me is and now going
to run this.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Well, perhaps this is the opportunity to revamp the whole
council structure as well, given that over two hundred elected
officials to local government got their jobs recently without having
any to have to go do any campaigning of the
likes we're including mayors around the country. So jagumen is there.
We need to streamline this for unnecessary costs.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Oh, look, I think that's that's absolutely right. And and
to some extent, they've also been cost plus industries they
and some of the government has loaded onto them and
things that they have to do, and then you need
to pack that up with science and that employees small people,
and so the ratepayer has been the one who's had
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to fund all this, And then that needs to be
a bit of a regress, and I say put it
on the table. Let's have a look. Let's see what
is the best way that we can do this and
protect people's property rights, their health and anything else that
needs to happen in what the role of those territorial
authorities and regional councils. Let's have a look at it.
(09:19):
I'm not frightened at doing that, but.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
It's interesting too. We looked at a farming viewpoint regarding
resource consents or just the consenting process in general, making
it easier for farming just to exist because that is
what is needed to happen for a very long time.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Oh look, and I think I certainly think that this
coalition understands that the figures for exporting for the last
year one hundred billion and sixty billion of that was
from primary industry. That is our business and we have
to facilitate that while we recognize that the environment has
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to be managed and looked after. To get on and
help those people. And when you see some of the
things that are coming and now hold Her and a
whole range of things there that are just open to us,
and we need to be able to say, let's have
a look at how we can do the whole thing better.
And my expectation is that that percentage of sixty percent
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exports is going to increase. The other thing I'd say
is this supposing I had but there's a very high
net in what is New Zealand and what we export
from primary production. If you've got a manufacture invasion, importing
molding and raw materials and everything else. Agriculture is basically
just a bit of fert and add water, and so
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there's a very high net in that sixty billion that
we export, much much higher than the other forty percent
that has high inputs on imports into it before it's
really you know, remodified and exported.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Just finally, Eric, how would you look at the past
twelve months from a farming perspective.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Well, I think we've seen a redressing of the fact
that meat proteins have not been in the same kind
of role that they traditionally have. Look, I've been farming
sinside nineteen sixty five on and off, and traditionally milk
powder and red meat proteins have been within ten percent
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of each other, and milklowder got away ahead and that
brought some changes to the way in which countrysides work.
But now that looks like and I'm hoping that we've
hit a new plateau and we can all work forward
on that. So it's been great to see that the
part of agriculture that is kind of struggling is the
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arable sector. They've had increased costs, but there hasn't been
an increase in their products, So those guys they'll be
looking for a good Christmas in a good new year.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Speaking of good Christmas, Arrah Croy, you, Elizabeth and the family,
you enjoy it, and we'll catch up in twenty twenty six. Well,
you always appreciate your time on the Muster.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
And it's been my pleasure. And can I just wish
all our listeners the very best for Christmas and have
a prosperous new year.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Eric Roy talking a lot of scenes around the arim
This is the Muster up. Next, we're a way to
Mocker Reader and let's catch up with Matt McCrae. Welcome
(12:40):
back to the Muster, you too, as the band or
the artist. The song is where the streets have no name,
Mocker Reader. I don't think there's many streets around there,
but we do find plenty of farms. In this afternoon,
we catch up once again with Matt McCrae. Matt, good afternoon,
how's mighty MOCKERRETA.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Good afternoon, Andy, your sun shining in another barmy summer
seven days. Yeah, it's great at the moment.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
This isn't This isn't always the case down here in
the Deep South, though. The last couple of weeks of
tortoised that right.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Yeah, No, it's we've had plenty of wind which has
dried things out of late, I think. Yeah, someone sent
me the soil moistograph from med and now there a
couple of weeks ago and it was about as live
as it have been in the last twelve months, which
is quite unusual at this time of the year. But
we've Yeah, we had fifteen mins of rain last week
and kind of the rest of the showers going around
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this But yeah, at this stage it suits their climate.
The things are humming along pretty nicely. The stock is
certainly enjoying it.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Well, you're notorious for quite a consistent rainfall there at
this time of year. Do you start thinking to yourself,
I'll take any rain on offer for the next six
weeks because you're not sure what January is going to bring. Well,
are you generally a bit more summer safe?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Yeah, there's a draught and mockerator, there's bigger issues at play,
and I'd say so we're pretty pretty summer safe. If
we go three weeks without a decent and terrain, we'd
think their throats cap but they yeah, vir ginerally one
hundreds a month and might be one month a year
that we don't get there in one months we get
three time set. But yeah, pretty summer safe country here.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
So you've got the tack of hammering at the moment.
A good quality lamb fade.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Yeah there is.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Obviously we've got really top feed over lembing and mine
that covers a weave back, but it's meant that. Yeah,
the quality has been good the whole way through, which
has got the lambs have certainly picked up a lot
in the last couple of weeks with a bit more
sunshine on their back, and yeah, surprising started doing a
wee bit of weaning and they're looking pretty good, certainly
well up on us years. Yeah, feed quality is pretty
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good and managed to get a crop ground out and
all the winter crops now on the ground and should
nearly all be through the grounds. Yeah, things are looking
pretty good. We'll get waning out of the way and
start worrying about a bit of balas and things like that.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Shortly for wing waiting for you guys. Is it like
a lord of the rings and it's it's ongoing over
the course of a couple of weeks. So has it
over and done with them a couple of days. It's
more of a thirty minutes set com.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Now. I we like to do it out of way,
but yeah, we've done. We ended up waning at chunk
of their maternals this week. We've swapped it up away.
But this year they were mid September lemming, but wined
them and got a handful away out of them this week.
And yeah, we're going to do with our terminals and
singles next week. So seeing the capacity thuies aren't the
same of Gonda, left them as light as possible to
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get as many of them as way off mums expecting
looking at them and the peut we should get a
fee of good worker for them a way off mum
next week and we'll spread that over a couple of
days to try and avoid drenching them too late in
the day. We kind of start early and be Hea
leans back in the pedict for lunch stomps, so you
can see the afternoon for mustering up and getting a
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break for the following day. So yeah, spread it over
a few days if we can.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
That's the interesting thing at the moment, Matt, which you
alluded to the fact that getting getting stuck into the
works isn't a problem.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Yeah, it's quite different. They keep telling us at next
week's full, next week's fold. But yeah, I haven't seen
it in some plants. Some plants in some instances they
may be, but so phony of competition for lambs out
there at the moment, and so good short term position
for the farmers to be in with that competitions driving
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some pretty healthy process. We haven't seen the slide in
the schedule that a lot we're predicting for December. So yeah,
if you ask the questions, it's amazing what you get.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
And of course there are figures were released by BEF
Lamb yesterday regarding the national lamb crop for this year.
They're predicting, well what twenty five to twenty six season
is estimated at nineteen point six million head, which is
a list of one percent one hundred and eighty eight
thousand more lambs on last season. We're talking to new
performance and the likes, but that's just pretty much the
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season we've had. But I found this figure surprising. At
the same time, I thought, due to change of farm
practice and the likes, those figures would have been slightly lower.
So it's good that it stayed where it was.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Yeah, that was great news. Isn't it good to see
a bit of a list that just goes to show
how last spring was then, especially in Otago South, and
I realized there's a lot of areas that were probably
more this year. But yeah, it's good to see that
performance or resilience and the numbers down to shine through.
(17:41):
So hopefully positive advices might drive away bit more of
that and we can if you know, the hold on
us next year would be might helpful some of these
plants up a bit more.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Do you think it's a case of supply and demand
around the world with is that less a lamb available
to what there used to be? Is it still going
to be a premium product? And there will be enough
people throughout the world who want to take on this
product even though it is dearer. Though the answer just
almost seems to be yes to would.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Agree, Yeah, Yeah, I definitely I agree. I guess we
don't want to processselves out of the market where lamb
is at the moment, as should be clearly profitable for
most second big summers. So if we can get a
stabilized period where it is at the moment and put
a bit of money in the bank would be quite
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good and it might encourage a bit of an investment
back into the industry, which has been well over Joe.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
As far as we're always seeing little lifts in the market,
there will certainly some big lifts. Do you think we're
going this is going to be sustained going forward and
perhaps well may have another day in the sun.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Yeah, I would like to think so. I'll see there's
some good contracts coming out for lambswall in January, so
we're just going the lining up whether or not recrupted
or see your lambs for during that period. So it
would I'd like to think it's sustainable, but it's still
pretty disappointing compared to where it was. So I've only
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been back farming for thirteen years and it's still not
as well as what it was when I started. And
I know there's plenty of people that would have better
stories than that. But it is encouraging to start start
paying for the sharing cost of sharing, which is a
good start. Just be nice to be making some money
off it, because not many things you do in life
you would do for break even.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Would you absolutely just finally as well, ram selling season
at your place and so the guns to the gunnel.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Yeah, so we'll all go at the moment. Just getting
set up for RAMS tomorrow. It's the first one in
my head. I'm hosting it on farm, so it's soaked
up a few days in between winning and everything else
the last few weeks getting it all set up. But yeah,
I'm pretty happy with how the rams are looking, and
it's kind of an uncomfortable nervous place to be in
but pretty exciting at the same time to them sorrow
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them all up there and let the let farmers be
the judge of what bench on the chiefs. Yeah, you're
in Lucien tomorrow afternoon. Be good to see you for
a beer if nothing else.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Nothing wrong with a bear in December. Matt, Hey, thanks
to your time on the Muster of this afternoon and
through the year as well. Have a good Christmas, take
a bit of time off and we'll catch up in
January at some stage.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Sounds good. Andy, you have a good Christmas. Factone and
you listens out there. I hope you have a good
break over the first of season.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Matt McCrae of Mocar reader all the yems you're listening
to the muster up next well, Holliday from Beef and
That New Zealand. We're talking hornets.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
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Speaker 1 (20:51):
And joining us this afternoon from Beef and Air New
Zealander is Will Holliday. Will Welcome to the Muster once again.
Always good to catch up.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
Yeah, Andy, it's been a while, but yeah, great to
talk to you.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
We're talking today about the yellow legged hornets where we're
hearing a bit of us in the media, especially up
in Auckland where there's been quite a few side things
around it, but it's kind of still a mystery for
a lot of people.
Speaker 7 (21:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
So the Ministry for Primary Industries have found these hornets.
They are in the north shore of Auckland. I think
they've found about thirty odd queens now that that have
built little nests or actually quite large nests. Yeah, and
they're a bit of a concern because what they do
is they attack worker bees. So they're quite cunning. They
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hover outside bee hives and they capture these worker bees
as they emerge from the bee hive. And so it's
a bit of a concern that they're going to impact
these hives and the ability for bees to pollinate things.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Is it fair to say that a honey industry could
be under attack if these get established?
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Yep, yep. Absolutely. If they can establish, get out of
Auckland and establish in the wider country, that could be
a major impact to the honey industry. But not just
to them. Just think of all the other crops and
plants that need or that rely on these for pollination.
I'm thinking things like kiwi fruit, certain fruit trees, and
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you know the one thing that we all rely on
is clover.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
So how do they get established in Auckland will just
from overseas obviously, but just through cargo and got through
the tracks.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
Oh look, that's a great question, Andy, And I don't know,
and I'm sure that that's part of the investigation that's ongoing,
or you know, something will come out in the in
the wash once the response has been has been concluded.
But I think we need to just remember that, you know,
by security, it's not a wall, it's a net. And
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you know, we do pretty well at capturing most things
before they establish in New Zealand, but every so often
something like this gets in it and it requires a
response and potentially something ongoing. So you know, we can't
spend all the money trying to keep things out. We
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can we can capture as much as.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
We can because they also thrive on flies, bees, And
did I say at wasps? So wasps do have the
encryptonite after all?
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Yeah, yeah, I guess you could look at the silver lighting. However,
you know, yeah that that they're pretty nasty and apparently
if you do approach them will make them angry. They
can give you quite a nasty thing as well. So yeah,
I mean, given all all the reasons, I think it's
best if we can try and get rid of these things.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, so what's a major difference between a hornet nest
and a wasp nest?
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Right?
Speaker 6 (24:00):
So, I'm actually looking at the NPI website right now,
and I encourage people, if they are interested in this,
to go to the MPI website because there's some great
photos on there. And yeah, these things they can create
a nest apparently as large as eighty centimeters tool, which
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if you think about that, that's quite a big nest.
But what they've been finding is these these smaller nests
are what they call an embryo or primary nest that
the queens build themselves, and that's about the size of
a tennis ball, and they sort of hang from a
tree branch or under the eaves of houses or sheds, So.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Very similar to the way that wasps established tea.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
Similar to the paper wasp. And I think what we
have been hearing is a lot of I wouldn't say
false reports. I'd say, you know, a bit of mistaken
identity where people are reporting to MPI that they think
they've got them and it does turn out to be
a paper wasp. But but I certainly encourage people to
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keep reporting because every one of these nests that we
find is really significant.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Same question again, how do you differentiate between a wasp
and a hornet?
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Right?
Speaker 6 (25:24):
The main thing is the size. So these hornets they
are about up to about an inch long or two
and a half centimeters long, whereas your standard, your German
wasp is a lot slimmer and shorter. And then when
you get down to your paper wasps, they're only about
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half the size of these hornets. So they're significantly large
insect by by you know, relatively, and so yeah, that's
that's the number one thing. Really, But if you go
on to the MPI website be able to see a
really good close up photo with some really good distinguishing
features that will help you identify them.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
But the main thing to remember at the moment this
has only been found in the Auckland region. We're just
giving people an indication if they see something out of
the ordinary down here, then there's a possibility perhaps and
that's all it is, that it could be your hornet.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
Absolutely. You know, we're in the response phase in Auckland,
specifically on the north shore, but for the rest of
the country. You know, we're really asking for people to
get out and if they see something unusual, do let
us know or do let mp I know, because you know,
we want to make sure that we can contain this
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and then and then try and eradicate it from where
it is.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Well, Holiday, thanks very much your time on the muster
and here is hoping we keep this pest where it belongs.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
Absolutely, Andy, pleasure to talk to you. We'll catch you
ladder mate.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Well Holiday had a lamb, so once again the yellow
legged hornet. It's bigger than a wasp and we will
just make this clear. It hasn't been found in the
South Island yet, only up in the Auckland region. It's
certainly something to look out for you they or hornets.
What if you got You've got the what was it
the Bill Cosby Show back in the day. It was
a show within a show. Fad Albert and the Gang,
(27:19):
the Brown Hornet back in the early eighties for those
that remember that, right, and Charlotte Hornets in the NBA.
Apart from that, kind of an unknown quality but nonetheless
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(27:58):
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long time ago. Warren Ross Farms at Way Mooy. We
catch up every couple of weeks.
Speaker 8 (28:11):
Good afternoon while yeah after the andy and listeners.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
How's everything going up in Mighty White Momoy?
Speaker 8 (28:17):
Yeah, not too bad. It's ly indy, so you know,
we're just prepping on on things and yeah, pretty much
gonna everything done we need to get done for Christmas. Really, sir,
I wouldn't say we're going to have a cruizy lead
up for Christmas, but yeah, yeah, just in long quite nicely.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
How's the velvet in going.
Speaker 8 (28:34):
Yeah, yeah, now as we're still tripping away at that,
and we'll be tripping away that for a little while
yet still trying to still killing a few, so yeah,
we just won't be as much regress to do come
next year, so no, it would be Yeah, even that
sort of think is going to make it a lot
easier and quarter which is good.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yes, how are you changing your dynamics there? What's going on?
Speaker 8 (28:55):
Well, we're actually got where we're out of the least
block turning heats on the first of May. So we're
going to keep all the beef kews in beef kettle
and replace it well and replace the stags with themes
and of course the beef cross is all pretty pretty
very strong at the moment. So yeah, that's what we're
sort of tagging at the moment, sort of ditching the
(29:16):
bevering steggs and getting into the into the beef market
a bit more.
Speaker 7 (29:19):
Was that a.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Reflection of the velvet market A little bit the a
bit of it and just going to be everything really,
to be honest, you're just it's just a mixture of yeah,
the profucts almos suppose, so everything else side just taking
along what you've got the grass growing, yep.
Speaker 8 (29:35):
No, grass is cranking along a right with cutting, cutting
balads and side one cuptain solids today for tomorrow and.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
We are planting my last pegg of the grass.
Speaker 8 (29:45):
Uh, you know, everything's everything's all the eggwork to be done,
you know now. So yeah, no sort of reading up
to the date with anything. So probably about three or
four pegs of balance Luke befool Christmas is probably we'll
putting it's up.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Probably.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Could you make quite a bit of Baylors throughout the season.
Speaker 8 (30:03):
We have done in the past, but I think this
year we're going to try and not to make quite
as much. And we've got we do have a lot
more melves, a lot more meles on board, so hopefully
we don't have to make as much.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Well it's going to be a lot more, Alex. I
suppose when you get rid of the dear side of things.
Speaker 8 (30:21):
Well that's right here, not yet, so whether I'm miss
them or not, I'm not sure, but I.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Do believe we'll have still have a few any hell because.
Speaker 8 (30:28):
We won't be able to kill them more than any hell.
So true, And I'm not sure if there's I'm not
too sure if there's much of a market for upsteads
at the moment. So the time will tell.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, the cattle industry as well, certainly on a high
at the moment, as is the lamb and new sectors too,
So a lot of puzzles you can take away there.
You look at your centergy of the farm and you
just want to make things work, I suppose, so you've
got to do these adjustments they occur.
Speaker 8 (30:53):
Well, I think that's what a lot of farmers look
at too. And everyone's different, but you know, you just
sort of a debt. But some pieces and and sometimes
it's not huge, huge numbers either way, but it's just
it is still worth looking around at options to go ahead.
Someone tell when you stay they were forced to breading
the risk around and diverse, diverse fies, you know, and
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that's that's a great thing, you know, And diversification. This
year for us we've been low has probably it's been
a good thing.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Well, it's like back in the early two thousands when
dairy grazing of heif has made of may certainly became
a proposition for a lot of sheep and beef farmers,
and gradually over time as this option has become a
lot more viable for both parties and certainly has been
part of a lot of farming synergies. And you can
understand why.
Speaker 8 (31:38):
Yeah, absolutely, So we've had a fairly good report over
the years two with with the graves as we've had
on board, So you know, it's been it's been a
good sort of income over these So.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
How would you rate the farming year on a whole
I was talking to Mett McCrae earlier in the Yeller
and he said that he is pretty pretty content with
the way that she can beef farming was looking at
the moment. So would you share that sentiment?
Speaker 8 (32:00):
Is it probably would be clear like the whole farming
industry is actually probably in a reasonally good place. The
weather the velves down, and the grain guys are struggling
a little bit, But I mean outside that the weather, Yeah,
there hasn't been all that bad for the whole year. Yes,
there was a bit average and nasty, but it actually
(32:21):
hasn't been all that bad. And and you look at
the groundwork when it did come right, we got on
the groundwork pretty pretty smartly really, So all in all,
I don't think they's been all that bad.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
You're a fishing guru here on the mustard while you'll
be heading up to the lakes, and no doubt.
Speaker 8 (32:37):
Yeah, no, let's see, we'll be getting away for a decent,
decent break and I think there's a quick plane over
the hill some stage in between. So yeah, we won't
have to be rushing home to do velvet well, probably handful,
but not as many as what we have done in
the past. We'll be but we will be coming back
and forward stop still need moved and feed and watered
and was to carry on. So we'll be coming game
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a bit between and Corsa. And it's the beauty of it,
of course that says he just so close about.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
One hundred and forty five clicks are an hour and
a half and you're there. It certainly makes a lot
of sense.
Speaker 8 (33:12):
Absolutely, So we can we get up at six o'clock
in the morning and scoot home and and two of
us and in Garth brother in law, and three of
us and he made his lawns and we get some animals,
and yeah, it's and then came. Sometimes we can pick
up there by by lunchtime, but after now it's it
is quite close to handy.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
So you can honestly say that Gath doesn't take you
away on maneuvers, and you're up there by lunchtime.
Speaker 8 (33:37):
Every day, not every day.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Occasionally he leads me astray, but yeah, okay, don't believe
that for a moment. Good on you gas. You know
you're listening more often than not. But just in general,
it's just been one of those seasons really when we
look forward.
Speaker 8 (33:52):
To Yeah, no, it's absolutely it is a silly season.
Of course it has to be down by the twenty fifth,
but you know it doesn't really have to be. You know, well,
crops need to be in, but of course you're going
to come to graph. It doesn't really matter too much
this year.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
Next to you, another good.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
On your wild We'll let you carry on your mirry way.
We've always appreciated you taking the time out of your
busy schedule to heavy yarm of us on the mustard,
so you enjoy the break, go and catch some big
fish and we'll do it all again next year.
Speaker 8 (34:20):
Yeah, no, gonna go to acause everybody to have a
safe and happy years.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Warren Ross a boy murmoo. So this song here with
All without you. I googled it. It is a Joshua
Tree and it came out in nineteen eighty seven, so
twenty eight. Oh what a nineteen eighty nineteen one two.
It's old. Let's just put it that way. Classic song, no, nonetheless.
Nathan Brandon's up next. All the promise, This says the
(34:59):
muss on Hakkanui Residents Sporting Gury. Nathan Burnan joins us
once again. Good ay, nath mate, how are you pretty good?
You too? All I want is you? From the Wrestling
hum album of nineteen eighty nine. Great great band, back.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
In the good old days before they before they got
a little bit weird. I'm not a messive concert concert goer,
but I have been to you two a couple of
times at Mount Smart and they put on a pretty
good show.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Zoo Roper was arguably when they started to Jump the shark.
Speaker 7 (35:30):
Yeah, jump the shark, get a bit political, get a
bit bono, sort of got a bit, got a bit loose,
really didn't he? But yeah, that old stuff fantastic.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Sebu Reese, good old Southland Swede Sevu. He's flying the
coop from New Zealand Rugby at the end of the year,
going over to Purple Gong, only if they don't drop
divisions apparently. But look, you can't ask you. The guy
has been a great servant for the Crusaders and the
All Blacks as well, and you're not really for Southland, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (35:59):
A mess of massive servant for the Crusaders, hasn't he
since twenty nineteen the leading trist is actually a little
bit surprised by this, but the leading tri scorer in
all Super Rugby for New Zealand. It's a fantastic effort
hopefully would bring up one hundred games for the Crusaders
in the in the next year's competition. So he's been
(36:20):
he's been great for them. And yeah, so it was
cleenty of excitement when he when he signed with Southend
and there was a lot of excitement obviously when he
when he finally made that appearance in a Marine Jersey.
Unfortunately didn't get touched the ball much and that was
a game that will probably prefer to prefer to forget,
but just I guess it just shows you the fleeting
nature of sports term and he was arguably, you know
(36:43):
very much and that the starting winger for the All
Blacks at the beginning of this campaign, but it was
almost a forgotten man by the end of it. So
you know, you can't blame these guys for as they
start that sort of inevitable slide that they that they
want to cash in.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
You take a Jay Rockets sit of any sort of Zipavata.
Was a couple of wingers off the top of my
head who've played a lot of rugby in New Zealand,
were really good players as well, went overseas and that's
just the nature of the beast, right They've got to
go overseas and make hay while the sun shines to
corner phrase.
Speaker 7 (37:14):
Yeah, a couple of great names of New Zealand World
rugby the year, isn't it. And I guess it's some
of that top end that top end speed. When I
think of severe rece, I think about probably know what
arguably might be the last try that he scored for
the All Blacks, you know, against Wales, where he had
basically no room to move and he managed to completely
(37:36):
skin the defender on the outside who never even got
a fingernail on him. That was just it was just
a classic sort of severe Reese try and I guess,
you know, if that's sort of the lasting impression that
he leaves on All Black rugby, and then then it
was a pretty good one.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
The All Black schedule next year, seventeen games lined up
and that's without the finals of this new competition they're doing.
They've got this tour to South Africa. They're getting to
play the Sharks, Stormers, the Bulls and the Lions as well,
these what we're super rugby franchises. But it's a big
schedule for next season too. It's going to be a
big year. When you think about it, you can.
Speaker 7 (38:13):
Understand why they're going to keep as much as they can.
They're going to keep the likes of the Sevy Reeses
on ice through next year. It's a huge buffet of
rugby and some massive sort of initiatives in terms of
this greatest rivalry aspect that they're promoting against greats to
(38:34):
the South Africa, and you know, I guess the part
of the thing is going to be great to have
a toil to get their teeth stuck into, but it
will be a massive challenge in terms of the all
Black resources next year, so that'll probably be be really
interesting to watch on and see how Scott Robertson and
that the coaching management try and manage that. There's a
(38:58):
lot of Rugby Nations Cup. But by the same token,
this is this massive commercial imperative isn't here to try
and drive the branding and try and create as much
commercial revenue as they can.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
The Black Caps bowling stocks, they go from bad to worse.
Blair Techna had a great debut us today but then
heard his shoulder sliding to save a ball. So once
again we're going to see the depth tested.
Speaker 7 (39:22):
Yeah, it only feels like five minutes ago that we
were sort of raving about just how deep we were
in terms of New Zealand New Zealand seam attack. But
nowadays you sort of, I guess every time the phone rooms,
you're sort of having a lot to see. It might
be New Zealand Cricket selector ring to see if you're
available or not. But yeah, it's been a it's been
(39:43):
a horror run. Players getting injured in these last couple
of games, and also players who were either being rested
or were injured out before that, the likes of your
Cole Jamison's and your Willow Rourks, these sorts of guys.
So I don't know, I don't know if there's been
a time in recent memory, well we've we've been in
a sort of injury stricken status, so particularly in that
(40:04):
in that one area of the game. So no surprise,
I guess, you know, after carrying such a heavy workload
in the second half of that that first Test, that
Jake Duffy and Zach folks aren't as penetrative as as
we'd like so far in this Test. I mean they
just bowled themselves into the ground in that first Test,
isn't they.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Well, who's got plenty of time for practice? There've been
the England cricket team. Now they're under the fire, under
fire once again. They've gone up to news of all
players for a few days of our and r photos
of them having a couple of quiets and playing on
the beach, which is understandable. You're on tilly, you've been
away for a month, you need to unwind. But somebody
came out of the Great Call yesterday saying RNDA McCallum,
(40:44):
the greatest, the greatest redemption for New Zealand cricket as
far as payback, we're getting the twenty nineteen final at Lord's.
Speaker 7 (40:52):
It's I mean, it's a it's a it's a long
and an arduous tour, isn't it of Australia, And I
guess it just became longer and even more arduous when
you're two down and I think there's only been one
team that's ever come back from that to win a series,
so pretty testing times. You have to imagine the likes
(41:14):
of the likes of Bears and probably some other guys
there potentially fighting for their for their playing and coaching careers.
But it's hard to see them really turning this ship around,
which must be pretty frustrating given it's I mean, it's
a handy it's a handy Australian team, but it's not
one of it. It's not one of the great Australian teams,
(41:36):
I don't think, but by any shape. But they just
I guess where they've got it is. They've got it
in the top the top two inches. They mentally they
are so much stronger than this English team and when
times get tough, there's definitely you definitely put your money
on the Assies rather than the English.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Yeah, Mitchell Stark, let's be honest. So he lives in
the heads of Kiwi's rent free. Now just finally the
Tour of South and the dates for this has been
changed jee to the weather, we'd realize that it's happening
in January.
Speaker 7 (42:04):
Yeah, interesting, So Easts Bent touris south and rescheduled from
its traditional time frame in the in the first week
of November, pushed out to mid jen traffic were we
were obviously still in a state of emergency in November
and yeah, so exciting times for for a mid gen week.
(42:25):
It'll be a good field, potentially even stronger than the
field that we would have had in November. Likes of
Josh Burnette, two time winter coming back to ride. He
wouldn't have been here in November, so great to have
him on board. And slightly different some course changes. Queen's
Park not available, so moving out to a ye Kiwi
(42:48):
area for the for the initial time trial and also
when the when the race gets back to town on
the following Saturday afternoons. So in Bcargo also hosting the
New Zealand Criterium Championships on the saying course the day before,
so bringing a whole lot of cycling down here in
the middle of January, and New Zealand's best writers will
(43:09):
be on display.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
So pretty exciting, absolutely nice. Always appreciate your time. This
chat one last time for twenty twenty five next week.
Always appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (43:18):
Sounds good, mate, Yes, laugh out loud with ag proud
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Speaker 1 (43:30):
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Well you marry me as a time traveler spoiling the future?
Will you marry me as a cave woman trying to
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(43:54):
like that? Anyway, that's us for the afternoon. I'm Andy Muller.
This has been the muster on Hakanui. Many thanks paid
the genetics enjoyed the afternoon podcast going up shortly see
them right hey, well i'll right.
Speaker 8 (44:07):
Too, he'll go there And what did he go on again?
Speaker 1 (44:08):
For?
Speaker 8 (44:09):
I'm a twenty five again.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Stock selling action occurred this morning at the charlt And
Sale yeah, it's courtesy of PGG. Right, so we catch
up with David Morrison and give us a rundown on prices.
Could I take or how do we go good?
Speaker 5 (44:19):
And you're pretty good today? Any to start with the
spring lanes, the best spring names two twenty to two thirty,
the millions for the around it's the one seventy five
to one eighty five, and just a the lighter light
spring lanes. A few of them probably should have been
in the open the stores for the one fifty one
to sixty end of the muttin your Mutton was to
be beck with again today the big head of us.
Speaker 10 (44:41):
Are any sort of sort of two ten to twenty
big big, that's the.
Speaker 5 (44:43):
Big big here.
Speaker 10 (44:44):
To use the many views for one seventy five to
one eighty and then use the best year around it
to the one twenty five to thirty five doors. We
had a half dozen pens all ends in there today. Yeah,
I selling pretty much on pales the last couple of weeks.
The best all m one fifty to one to fifty
five million names for one thirty one thirty five. Just
(45:06):
the small small wee lambs run into on hundred and
hundred and five dollars.
Speaker 5 (45:11):
We also had the I C Sale here today, Andy,
which is obviously very very good cause we're pushing one
hundred cabs and which is donated donated by a from
the dairy farmers, supported by about four purchases annual purchases.
That was purchases, i should say, which is very good.
So the best of the ball best the freezing boys
(45:31):
six hundred and six fifteen and the best the beefies
six to fifty to seven, with the off types putting
down as lower as sort of three fifty to four
to fifty dollars and thet you're rested up.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Will give me for the Hey, just finally, Tago, have
you got last sale for the year next week?
Speaker 5 (45:48):
Did another another fund next week? Mate?
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Yep, for sure, Ruddy, you're good on yet
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