October 12, 2025 • 44 mins
Andy Muir talks to Rob Scott, Bruce Eade, Dean Rabbidge, Murray Cockburn and Penny Simmonds.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hakanui, I
mean yo here until two o'clock of course, thanks to Peterson.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Next, welcome along. Hope you had a good weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Shout out to the Tiana Young Farmers and organizing a
fantastic barkup event up there in the basin on Saturday
night and people traveling from.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
As far away as kuro I believe.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
So well done, money going towards the local cause and
some questionable haircuts walking around as a result.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Shout out Sarah Humphries, hope you're wearing a hat today.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Great to catch up and well done on an event
proving the young farmers is going ahead and leaps and
bounds local body politics as well to the four over
the weekend South and District Council retaining Rob Scott coincidentally
starting off the show shortly, but Ben Bow as well retained.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
As the mirror of Gorse. So over and done with.
You just need more engagement regarding local body politics right.
The music is def lepping for two reasons.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Since Murray Cobran's on the show for mainly minerals requested
it and as well I've seen the movie Bank of
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the big Banks in the UK. I well recommend it
well recommended. I recommend it as a watch on Netflix.
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Speaker 3 (01:17):
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Speaker 1 (01:26):
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Speaker 2 (01:35):
Thursday light morning ray.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
With breezy westerly seven and thirteen, and Friday cloudy were
breezing northwesterlyes ten and twenty so a temperatures northern south
and ten point one a, Riveton eleven point four, Winton eleven, Tiana,
Tittaroa and Woodlands all ten point six. Rob Scott, Southam
District's mayor once again for another three years, joins us,
(01:57):
telling us what he hopes to achieve for this term
and getting engagement in the voting process. What do we
need to do to change things? Bruceed of Colso joins
us in the Sergeant Dam farming roundup, Ben Dean ravage
of Glenham and arresting press release coming out from the
government yesterday regarding methane targets a reduction there, so Dino
thinks it's a good thing and why.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
It needs to go even further.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Marray Cober and like I say, from Mainland Minerals, we
have a catch up. He's in studio later in the
hour and then Penny Simmons MP from the Cargo, so
we'll start the hour next anyway, Rob Scott, you're listening
to the Muster and Hakanui. Thanks to Peters Genetics.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Rob Scott has been re.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Elected as a South Industrict council were for a second
term with a comprehensive victory in the local body elections
over the weekend and.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Joins us this afternoon.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Rob, Good afternoon, and firstly, congratulations on your reelection.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Good afternoon, Andy, thank you.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
You must be pretty toughed, especially with the margin that
you had.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Yes, yeah, but better than the thirty nine that I
got the last time, and a lot the result was
a lot quickers at this time as well. So yeah,
I'm really really stuck and quite humble next week. It's
a good result.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, Gary Thong of course previo yourself and distant council
here before yourself only forty five votes separating three candidates
in twenty twenty two. This time though, so far four
thy seven hundred and twenty six is a difference between
yourself and Gary?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
What do you put it down to?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Oh? Well, I sort of joked about it begging my
perform inch of you over the last of the six weeks,
and I mean addictively it was. And I've worked very
hard for Southland and it's comforting to kind of see
that that's I guess been recognized and I've got the
support of the community. So yeah, I'm very happy.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Talking about voted turnout. It's a concern all over the shit.
What do you put it down to? Is it just
fatigue regarding local body politics?
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Yeah, I can't work it out, and I think it's
something that I've basically written down as one of the
things to work on to try and get rid of
that empathy and that fatigue. I mean the government haven't
helped and sort of getting the big stick out and
turning us into a bit of a I guess there
was think boy kind of thing. But I think, I mean,
(04:25):
I spoke to a few people. I spoke to someone
sort of in that last week and I said to her,
have you voted, And she said, oh, no, not yet
voting all the election stage. Yeah, I haven't missed one yet,
but I was sort of left right to the last minute,
and she's sort of forgotten about it. So I think that,
I mean, the postal system, no one and I can't.
(04:45):
We don't check our out but very hoppen at home,
and then we don't really get much mail, so that
that's part of the problem, I think.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
But also.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah, we need to do something as a sector. I think,
I think the national averages at thirty percent, that's not
not very good.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
And a resting. You're talking about the rural post and
the likes.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
That's one of the things that's pretty contentious for a
lot of people at the moment.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
No, it's sometimes changes for the better, sometimes changes for
the worst.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
But it.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Fascinates me how we've got further and further ahead in
time and technology and increase, but sometimes the services don't
stay in there and the reliability of those sorts of things.
So yeah, it's our rural communities are very important and
we've got them actual that we can communicate with them properly.
And I think sometimes and I mean it's one of
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the things that we focus on. We have to deal
with a Southland district where decisions get made in the
cities in Wellington. Let's forget about how the rest of
the world that actually keeps the country going operates. So,
you know, it's one of the challenges of case.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Are you hopeful for a one hundred percent sour coverage
rate in Southland given that the talcos don't realize the
year twenty twenty five and certain parts of the south
Southern coast will exist.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Oh, most definitely make me more productive of my role.
I can tell you most of the patches and southand
but the phone receiptment runs out and I'm trying to
sort of have conversations while I'm driving around. And yeah,
it's pretty average. It would definitely be it's good to
see vodaphone. Well sorry, One New Zealand now keep talking
that vodaphone, But One New Zealand having that satellite kind
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of coverage. I think that's going to help as it progresses.
But it's something that needs to happen. It's yeah, very
important for rural people to take connected.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
So what are your priorities for this term.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Rob, Well, carry on, carry on doing the best of
South and looking. We've got such a great council. The
community's put forward a good grouping of sixty nine elited
members to work with, so we've got a few things
that we're going to carry on working on. Roading is
definitely the big one for us. I've got to finish
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that roading, funding journeys that have been on the government
and get some equity across there, and building up our
local democracy across all of our towns and getting them strong.
The reorganization is certainly going to dominate them in the background,
but there's other stuff to sort of work on at
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the same time as that as well. And we've got
such a great district. Big things around the import that
we're still going to be working on the stud isle
and electricity. It's progressing nicely. So there's a few big projects,
but I guess just for me, it's strengthening that local
democracy with our community boards and our great team that
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we're going to have around the table.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
You use that term local democracy, just explain it in
a bit more detail.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
So we've got nine community boards spread around southern district,
so we've actually got we were quite a unique council
with sixty nine elective members, which some people see as
a bit of a challenge, but I see that as
a as a real great strength and getting our decisions
made totally and that kind of local governance and local
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scrutiny over how they may pay money get spent. It's
a much better way of doing it. And it's I
think one of the great stress that we have here
in southwind.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
You talk before about rural roads.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Of course we've got one of the biggest roading networks
in the country. Can we actually see a time and
a place where our roads are set up to a
satisfactory stand And I mean you drive between the Cargo
and Gore for example, for being State in Hillway one,
it's diabolical in places like some of the Edendale Earl
it's unacceptable.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Yeah, it's quite fun to have having a conversation with
someone over the weekend about that. And I actually said,
and our roading team might give me a clipper around
the ears for this, But if we can get the
equitible roading funding because state Highway is actually worse than
our council managed roads, and if we could get appropriate
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funding we could actually look after the state highways as
well and keep them to this time standard. We've got
another road Donald. Some people might argue that our roads
aren't that good, but they are relative to the to
other parts of the country, they're pretty good. We've got
a good team there that are running on the smell
of an oily rag. So if we can get that
funding up, yeah, maybe we could look after the government
roads too.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
But do we need to compare ourselves to the rest
of the country or due respect. We need to stay
what works best for us totally.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
And that's that's what I've been in the conversation I've
been having with the politicians is don't punish us because
we're good. This is we are contributing to the rest
of the country where that huge export contribution that we
make from our royal sector and we need that investment
in our roads, and yeah, we shouldn't be compared to
the rest of the country.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
And all your right GDP figures for Tiger Southern Dateline
now as well the other Isshue you talked about council
amalgamation We've seen the debarkle over the weekend over two
hundred councilors or meres for that matter, and elected an
opposed throughout the country.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
You're going to be pushing this agenda.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Yeah, well, I launched I like the word amountaination. I
prefer the word reorganization. But having launched it what eighty
months ago, now it's an important piece. I think it
comes down to it, or were talking about at the
start as well. We've got apathy out there. If we've
only got in the late thirty percent, five to forty
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percent of the people turning. I think Gord did quite
well getting across fifty, but that shouldn't be a celebration.
When you get to fifty percent, we should be getting
eighty percent voted tearing out. So we need to get
our system for the purpose and touching on that local
democracy piece that I talked about as well, that's that's
the part where we can actually make this work really well.
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Celebrating our community boards, having those people that are there,
they're not there for the money, they don't get paid
very well for it, so they're clearly there for the
right reason. But getting that grassroots democracy happening, so you
still got really good representation, but taking away all the
overheads and the burden of having four councils to get
all the work done. So I think there's a very
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important piece of work to have a lot there and
the system that we're operaking and has been there since
nineteen ninety nine, it is time to change and that
might actually help with some of those those other issues
that we're having.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
So what's the ultimate goal for you regarding this? Perhaps
in three years time.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
This is all go.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Yeah, hopefully the local government commissions working on at the moment.
I have felt that the proposal of the two unitary
authorities coming out that it's my favorite, but it's important
now for the community to have the essay. So the
proposal has been launched this I guess the process has started,
but they're very important part now, so the community that
have a voice and have a say, and I would
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like to see the new system in place by the
next election.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Rob Scott re elected South and District Council may I
always appreciate your time in the muster.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Congratulations once again.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Thanks Andy, much appreciated.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Rob Scott re elected Mayor of a South and District Council.
You're listening to the muster. We're away to Calso. We
catch up with bruceed Bruceeed Farms at Calso in South
(12:15):
Totago and joins us in the Sergeant Dan Farming round
up each every Monday. We speak to various farmers in
different parts of the region. Of course, thanks to Sergeant
Dan stock foods here and Gore. Good afternoon, Good afternoon, Andy.
How are you pretty good yourself? You survived beth'st ok.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Yeah, no, we did. It was quite nerve wreaking. It
was a hell of a race. But yeah, night, we're
going good.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
So how are you looking out there?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Likes the growth in there, speaking to a lot of
people that's taking the check obviously with the way the
temperatures have been all over the show.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
How are you fearing?
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Yeah, well, I'd probably say we've turned the corner in
the last ten days. It was looking pretty bleak probably
into last month and the beginning of this one, and
we were all sort of the only thing that got
us through that thirty five miles of rain we got
about ten days ago, with the hope that we were
going to get nineteen twenty degrees for three or four
days last week, which thankfully we got and you can
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just see the grass waving in the wind now, so
it was welcome change.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
So the tick is starting to grow over your way
now more at least, then.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Yeah, it's done too. We're not certainly flushed with it
or anything, but you know, you can certainly see a
few days in front of you now, whereas it was
a wee bit of where we put in the cows
next scenario, but brought a bit of extra supplementary feed
to bridge the gap in that, which we're slowing down
on that at the moment. So probably not out of
the woods yet. I think it's a bit weak again
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next week by the stand of things, but to be expected.
But yeah, no, it's been it's been a bit of
a bit of a struggle I think for most people feedwards,
just in the last bloody six weeks. So it's down
south around I've been in the Carver once or twice,
I think, over Carving and sort of around the Edendale
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and parts of that look to have a lot more
grass than we did earlier on, and that don't mean
down there lately, so I'm mu sure how they're fearing,
but yeah, it just seems to be up here in
West Targo, we're a little bit boody, short or slowly
to get going.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
It was interesting yesterday, Bruce, the government coming out in
the media announcing is current twenty fifteen twenty fifty sorry,
methane target of twenty four to forty seven percent is
going to be reduced to what they're saying is a
more realistic target of fourteen to twenty four percent. Interesting
bringing out news releases on a Sunday.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Yeah, especially on beth Thursday.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Especially on beth Thursday.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I first I heard of it because I was fully
engrossed in the race yesterday till the very end. Was
this morning, come to the Kioski in the radio and
I said, well, that's quite unusual for it to be
a Sunday thing. But yeah, it's good news. I suppose
they've pushed things out in that, But the end of
the day, we're just carrying on farming here, doing what
we do, and we'll worry about that sort of rubbish
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when the squeeze really comes on.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yeah, you're pretty pragmatic in that scene inspiray saying that
whatever the case of us are, whatever will be, will be.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
But you just get I don't know grumpy.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
At the fact that all these extra taxes get lamped
on the real sector at the moment.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Oh, it's a tough one. I mean, if you've got
grumpy and pissed off excuse my language, after one at
all this, every single one of those stupid things that
they dream you'd give the game away. So, you know,
will we do it? Because we love the cares, being
outside and farming in general, the pleasure that you get
from a bit of success and fruits of your labor
and all those other cliches. So not only that stuff
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sort of get me down too much. That's for the
guys with shiny asses sitting and officers to work through.
And we're out on the on the ground floor or
at the grassroots doing our job. And yeah, I sort
of ignolmost that white noise until it really needs to
come to the crunch. You know, you can say you
can get your your neckers in a twist over it,
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and that you look what happened with grounds well, you know,
going back, I don't know how man years there was
now the big protest twenty twenty one, twenty twenty one, yeah, right,
that long ago put a line in the sand, that right,
farmers have had enough now, and I think that probably
send a message to the hierarchy that if you're enoyous
enough or you go down the wrong track far enough,
there is plenty of numbers and we will get up
and say, hey, we've we've had enough. So I think
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we have that a little little bit of power in
their back pocket in the sense of the year, we'll
we'll stand up and say hey, this isn't good enough.
If it gifts to that point.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
And the reathing you talk about individuals and ivory toilers
and the likes of Federated farmers be for lambdiry and
z etc. You're quite heavy to support their work they're doing.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Yeah, I guess, so they do what they do. At
the end of the day, they're not going away. I'm
obviously paying a levy to beef and lamb and paying
a levy to dairy in Z. I'm not a member
of feeds in that, but more power to them. It's
just because it's I don't have a problem with those guys.
Good on them for standing up for us all on that. Yeah,
sometimes you wonder where that levy go for some of
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that stuff, But that's another story for another day.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
What is the story today though? Is Bathist or Bathurst
depending on how you're supposed to pronounce that, I suppose.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
But like you say, you're an avid fan of the event,
and I'll be honest, I watched a hell of a
lot more yesterday than I imagined.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
That I would.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
But just that finishing there those that last five or
six laps doing two hundred and fifty clocks or whatever.
It was side by side and somebody right behind you.
You don't know what's ahead of you because of the weather.
It was just riveting TV and sported.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
For that too.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Oh it was you know, as I said, I've been
watching it since I was a part, so I've grown
up with it and yesterday. Last year was a bit
of a procession. It was reasonably boring, but the qualifying
that on Friday was the closest have been for a
long time, so it was quite exciting. And a few
big names, well most of the big names actually didn't
either make the finish or certainly weren't in the top teen.
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Dude to mechanicals and other bits and pieces. I think
mom of the day apart from the wind for Matt
Paying from m Zealand's chairs, most it's Mustang expired on
the straight, jumped the fence and went and had a
can of beer with the crowd. You know, it's it's
just as Bathirst as it comes. But like the last
probably twenty laps, the rain was coming in, felting down
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those boys. As you say, they're doing easy two hundred
and two fifty clicks in a lot of those places
and in close quarters combat a lot of faith and
the guy next to you hoping that he's not going
to drew into the fence because the lead changed hands
probably five or six times. Cars that were out of contention,
all of a sudden, we're into contention. Old mate went
for a last or went for a lunge pass there
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and got a five second penalty. So he did actually
win the race, but he ended up third because of
the penalty, so you know, it had all the drama
that Bathurst usually has. So yeah, it was even though
it was a Ford one. It's against my religion. It
should have been a shed, but anyway, that's how it rolls.
Good to see Matt Payne get up there and do
it and yeah, great day.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, Kvy's a fly once a game. Brice, appreciate your time,
No worries, We'll see you next time.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Bruce Seed of Cowso and the Sergeant Dan farming around up.
Thanks for sageint Dan Stock foods right here in Dean
Ravage is up next.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
You're listening to the muster. This is the muster on
Hock and.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Newly Dean Ravage Farms at Glenham and joins us once again.
Good afternoon. It's been a niffy week or two of
weather Dino since we last caught up. Are you seeing
a little bit more blue sky or is it just
a case of a continuation of the last week you?
Speaker 6 (19:40):
Good afternoon, Andy, Look now thanks haven't proved a lot,
haven't they really? Days are getting longer and a few
more sunshine airs, so yeah, but more heat going around,
especially every weekend. It was nice and it doesn't take
long for Pannis to green up. Little bed and Liam's
news to sit down and enjoy it really touch Yeah taken,
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and it's que juble.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
So you've had a bit of a tinge grow up
come out through the ground.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
Yeah we have. It's a deep shadow green now, which
is needed because it'll be leaves start obviously get the
passion into their diet as well, so yes, of just
juggling peddics around, making sure they're all stocked accordingly, and yeah,
things are going reasonably Okay, it's in.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
The middle of October, though, you kind of expect the
grass to be growing, right.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
Yeah, well I shouldn't We shouldn't it.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, yeah, tailing we were all right, went well.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
We've only done the one day and the terminal to
the b u's so yeah, there seems to be enough.
There always a pictual for some reason, aren't we But yeah,
early early figures in the cap we should be on path,
not a wee bit better than than last year, and
last year was one of their best ones. So yeah,
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we'll just see what happens and another sort of fortnight
when we when we tail everything else right up, Now, you've.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Got to change that terminology for the years. I've told
you this before that A and the b mods. You
can't use that in this day and age.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
D oh, yes, so I've got the capitalists and socialist.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Oh right, we just some of your best work. I'll
give you that one. Hey.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Look, it's been an interesting weekend as well, of course,
as methane target. The government's come out saying look, we
need to recorrect this going from a target to twenty
fifty have been twenty four to forty seven percent reduction
to a more realistic target of fourteen to twenty four percent.
But on top of that as well, Nestle pulling out
as a dairy methane action alliance, whatever that means.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Yes, been quite a productive weekend as far as that
sort of announcement goes for the real sector. Obviously, as
the zero percent target would be the ulpha going, I
think it'd be everybody's preferred position. But we've got what
we've got though, when you look at it in a
bit more context, I thanks twenty seventeen, which they're using,
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is the base you we've already seen a ten percent reduction,
and from what I understand the figures that I've been shown,
that only leaves us for another four percent to reduce
them the next twenty five years. So I could be
created on that. But if you look at a lot
of that, I think we'll get there quite easily with
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a bit of natural attrition unfortunately, and with some landy
has changed, so it's pretty good as good as a
zero percent target really if you want to look at
a lot of that.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
But it's certainly a change from twenty twenty two from
the Duran government just looking at a piece of paper
this morning from back then talking about a five year
pricing pathway which is to be established from this year
twenty twenty five going out to twenty thirty. Certainly a
change what the government wants to achieve.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Yeah, Like it just shows you how God we give
with my words here here how much of a waste
of time and effort and money both taxpayer and industry
money were spent on Hewoker are chasing this mythical target. Yeah,
so hopefully we can see the end of EGRA zero
as well, which is also spending a lot of industry
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money and producer money that could be used with some
really tangible environmental enhancements on farm rather than these biological
methane inhibitors which is just going to create another cost
and a lot of unproven science there as well. So
hopefully this reduction targets and nests they doing what they've
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done or see. Well, I've obviously seen the end of
Hiwoka Canal, which is fantastic, and hopefully this personally we
see the end of EGRA zero as well.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Now Tesco, which is the biggest buyer of New Zealand
products in Britain. They wanted all their products to be
environmentally accredited and reaching the zero across their entire supply
chain by twenty fifty. I await to see what Tesco
comes out with as a result of this in due course.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
I think once they realized that the consumers are going
to have to start paying a lot more for their
product if they want to reach these targets, they sort
of loft. The ambitions might be redusced as well. Hopefully.
I know you've I've heard it on your show and
four that everybody sort of starts buying their food within
the environmentalists head on, but as soon as they get
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the checkout, they become an economist. So I think, yeah,
the cost of all this is actually going to start
to really have an impact on things.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Well, it's the cost of living crisis, and it is
that when you go to the supermark and do the
weekly shop. Geez, what as the comparison the other day
on a brand of biscuit twelve months ago, probably two
dollars two dollars twenty at most, now up to about
three dollars thirty three dollars forty that's just one item,
and so your shop's gone that by an average I
don't know, seven or eight percent over the last eighty months.
And that's just at a guess, and I'm probably too low.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
Yeah, I as you get a fight when you go
to the checkouts.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Now, like.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
A lot of people, well most people that probably listening,
sharn't the royal sector. We're very four that we're probably
able to supply a lot of their own meat that
we can grow on farm or really yeah, we're very
fortunately position, but I wouldn't like to have to be
back paying for it at the checkout along with everything
else that seems to have gone up significantly. It's not
(25:14):
only the price has gone up, but I think the
packet sizes have also got a lot smaller as well.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Double yeah, Oh, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
You go and buy products and everything's just seemed to
have shrunk, and they've changed the packaging and they just
try and justify the rest now behind the changes.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
If only we could get paid more for smaller lambs
of being the winner, wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
We that'd be great, just getting paid all over the board.
But this is a positive. This is a great positive
will continues to go under a week in one direction,
and it's not the band either. It's talking about going upwards.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I mean at the can Every sale, the christ Church
sale last week, going up a potential of thirty two
cents once again.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Yeah, I even say that we'll spiked in the UK
as well, which is up over a pound twenty akedo
as well. So yeah, like that's really exciting for strong
Wold Seacret. It's obviously been the leg out of all
their basket of goods that we supply probably the last
thirty years really though, hasn't it, to be honest, So yeah,
(26:14):
to be more than caring production cost of harvesting and
production costs. Now it's putting it in a really good
position again. So it's good to see and hopefully it's
for all the right right reasons. It's for it's extributes
rather than just a diminishing supply.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Well, it's like Jamie McKay mentioned a wee while ago,
ten dollars for met, ten dollars for wall, ten dollars
for milk.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
It'll be a good outcome.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
Oh yeah, take that end day of the week alright, a.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Little bit of sport because we can mpc a Tago
by a plenty, cam Miller Goreboard and rebel claim him
out there doing the demage for a Tago over way
Kadow just on the verge of extra time and Kennerbury
playing Hawk's Bay in the other game at Tago by
a plenty.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Whoever wins this game, I hope they win the whole coup.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
Yeah, well hopefully it's Tigo, really, don't we Yeah, being
high in his partner like that, but gee at this
pointed not to see Counties get overline against Kenworth. Think
everybody in the country would have been happy about that one. Yeah,
it's an exciting fuddy for semi final stuff. It's been
throwing around lot and even the Tarannecke Hawk's Bay game.
I thought Tarrannick, he was hard done by Tmo dislowing well.
(27:19):
I thought it was a reasonably obvious try in the
last sort of ten minutes that would have brought them
back with him seven. It would have made it quite
a green Stead finished as well, So here the semi
finals can live up to the quarterfinals. Went for a
good weekend, Ropy next weekend too.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
And bethurs yesterday you took a keen interest in. I mean,
how could you not watch that theater play out, especially
over the last forty five minutes.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
Oh yeah, g don't Australia do sport well?
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Just the bay so bloody well commentary and everything that
resonates with the less than the watcher.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
No, it was. It was fantastic. Yeah, it was put
on the TV here and well all day yesterday and
you sort of popway and the few jobs and come
back and see what was going on. And then when
the rain started, I thank everybody was the head of
dry seat. Was pretty heavy to watch that. See that
happening to those jobs are boy scale forward. Yeah, it
was quite exciting. Finish and a key to get over
(28:14):
the line was even better.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Absolutely good on your day and always appreciate your time.
Thank you, Dane Ravage of Glennam. You're listening to the muster.
Up next Murray Cobra and from Mainland Minerals and before
the end of the year and Vacago MPE and Minister
for the Environment Penny Simmons, Welcome back to the muster
(28:46):
on Hakanui, joined in studio by Murray Cobra and of
Mainland Minerals. He requested the music today and what Murray
wants he gets and Murray Good Afternoon Hysteria by Def Leppard.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Any particular reason.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
It's one of those songs that I just remember is
that when I was going through school, you know, it
was just one of those ones that was really popular
in and everyone was under it. So it was a
great bit of music of the time.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Playing it in the Seno tape recorder or absolute.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah, the JBC cansette recorder got given from a Christmas
present one time.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Trying to tell the Yager generation these days about winding
getting the pencil.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
They'll never get it, start and turn it over and
start again.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
All part of the fun. Main Land minerals.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Since we spoke last time, we've seen a bit of
a change and the growth patterns and the likes.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
But you guys as a busy time of year.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, definitely. I'm just looking at their growth. I was
coming up from Tiana today, Andy, and it's just I mean,
Tianne is pretty much skunked out at the moment, but
there's some you can see it's starting to move. But
the further you get down towards Gore, you know, down
that Belpha back Kingston crossing back Struck Road. There's there's
some really really good tucker there, so it's it's good
to see. And I see the saw temps are sitting
(29:55):
there the last four days just under eleven degrees, just
sitting there at Tama there, and that's the outstanding you know.
We've got next got two big rainfall sort of steel
forecast for next week and later today and then I
think on the weekend. But other than that, just a
wee bit of dri drizzly rain and it's just good
sort of warm growing conditions so kept. I think three
(30:15):
or four days of sunshine amongst that too, hopefully, which
is what we need.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
And that's a big thing at the moment, I suppose,
isn't it just China when when you've had a slower
start the spring, trying to get the tucker to move on,
But quality tucker at that too.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Absolutely, and that's what we had a lot of guys
at the moment that are using the ignite end, which
is just something we've been just promoting a wee but
lately it's just it's got the quickened and quick and
slow nights, green and sulfur and and that's really important
this time of the year. You're wanting some tucker HEADI.
It's just it's key to get those two nutrients going.
Particularly you've got your pea levels are still relatively okay.
(30:50):
It's just trying the young grasses in particular, the clovers
aren't really producing that natural nights gen with you know,
takes a while to get that natural nightch and production
up to about the first eight months to two years,
so you really need to bridge that gap with some
artificial night gen. And as much as we don't like
using artificial night gen, it's actually a really important thing.
Otherwise you end up getting ahole lot of weeds and
stuff in your young grasses and that sort of defeats
(31:11):
the purpose of what you've done with your crops.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
It's at about having those tools in the toolbox.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Though, Oh absolutely dead right. So the other thing we
sort of talk about this time of the year is
actugat your saw testing done. It's something that knowing what
the detail is of the maje nutrients and trace elements,
it's really really important to understand that picture first across
(31:36):
your farm and then jigsaw your farm up and then
apply the different nutrients to the different areas without going
paddock by paddock, but just trying to get into sort
of two or three groups of fertilizer application and really
important to do that. Also, thinking back the last couple
of years with the economics of farming and the sheep
and beef guys, I know a lot of my clients
(31:57):
have been sort of backed right off, and now it's
time to really Now we got that weather in front
of us, it's really time to get that furd on
and get it, get it cranking, So get their value
out of your pastures that you've got in front of you,
and the cheapest way of growing tuckers on your farm,
but put the right nutrients on you get the best results.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
When you're talking to cockies at the moment, and they've
been hesitant because of the season, especially the sheep and
beef since you'll be noticing though a lot more sword
testing and there are fruit regimes.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Going back to how it was definitely then the intentions
there any but I think there's definitely been a bit
of people just waiting to see what hits the deck
with the numbers numbers of lambs on the deck and
how well you know, how things lock anyone's a week
but sort of you know, it all looks positive, but
let's just make sure we've got those animals that that
we can finish. That's and and I do the same thing.
(32:46):
I think, I think it's good thinking. But but but
at some point you've just got to make that call
and go right on into it.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
We've got the numbers. Things are looking good. We have
got good meat, meat, and even wolves looking even better,
isn't it so as bloody good? The lamb and b
side of things is awesome, so make the most of it.
But if you're going to finish so as quickly, you
want to make sure that you're putting that neutrin down
there into those pastures. And and also don't forget those
(33:14):
little egg sort of spark plugs making sure that those
those minerals are up to speed as well. And it's
it's often a big overlook thing. You can have everything
else pumping, but if you haven't got that those trace
minerals likes you and libdum and then for animal health,
you're going to have your copper and your zinc and
boron's really really important. Cobalt and selenium of course, so
(33:38):
and sometimes manganese can be an issue as well. So
just looking at what are those limiting factors across that
what what I call the other half of the wine barrel.
We can look at half the wine barrels, the major
new chance. The other half is the trace minerals, and
you want to make sure that if there's a big
def sit there, then you can have some major issues
as well with finishing animals.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Social media it's a great way to get your messaging
out these days. You've got Lisa in here running around
with the camera as well.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Not that that's intimidating or anything, but look, it's all
about getting in message out there. You'll be on TikTok,
no doubt, murray tick what tiktop tick tack, that's just
something you put in your mouth.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Yeah, no, no, I'm not very good on social media
at all. So it's something that we've we've always wanted
to figure out how do we do But it's a
bit better in that area. So we've got Yeah, we've
got Lisa on board here and she's done a bit
of video on here today, sort of behind the scene stuff.
So it's yeah, it's sort of how do you get
your message across how do you get your story across
(34:35):
of what you actually do and what's the genuine side
of what Mainland Minerals does and how we care for
our farmers and that that's a I see that social
media is a real avenue to do that and it's
and so far we've done extremely well with the short
short time we've been doing it. And we've got a
couple of other young guys that have been helping us out,
real real cool young guys up and Wanaka that are
(34:56):
just sort of I think it's a year year thirteen
if they was at school. They just they just start
their own company up and they're out doing all the
social media stuff and these ad campaigns and stuff, and
it's it's actually really really cool. So I'm learning lots
about it at the moment, and yeah, the views and
stuff have been amazing and it's quite it's quite interesting.
I just time will tell as to how that translates
into growing the business, But at the moment, it's it's
(35:18):
going extremely well.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah, Instagram, you some great reels on Instagram. You'll find
that out. All I know.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
All I know is my kids, I keep telling them
don't do doom scrolling. That's about the only way I
know on Instagram is that right? You just sit there
and keep watching.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Stuff flack flick. Now, you guys have got some awesome
sayings here. You're only as good as you do it.
That resonates in a.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Whole lot of ways, and a lot of people talk
about that. But the other one here as well, we're
not just about fertilizer. We're about helping farmers get the
most out of every paddock. You know, just shortened to
the point, but relevant to what you're trying to achieve, right.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Yeah, absolutely, it's yeah, we want to we want to
get as much out of that farm as we can,
and that that foot of soil under your feet is
just the most important thing. And if you don't fully
understand it, and you don't, well, if you're just getting
the same recommendations each year and you're just putting superphosphate
on and it's the same recommendation, and you sit there
and you go, I've just spent all those tens of thousands,
(36:16):
sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars and I've ticked the box.
What are you actually missing out on? And that's the
real key thing. You've got to make sure you get
those those details right and have a good grasp it
and so you so because at the end of the day,
you are only as good as that dirt that is
performing under your feet. So so get it, get stuck in,
get good people around you. And I think we also
talk about we talk about sort of products and fertilized
(36:38):
and it used to be guilty of this, you know,
but it's actually the service from your reps. You want
bloody good reps that know their stuff and they can
really help you get to the bottom of things and
and and rip that information out of the soil so
you understand the details and you put the right fertilizer
on to meet those deficits. And it can be compaction,
(36:59):
it can be different other thing things that you're not
thinking about. You just looking at the sal test. So
you need someone that's got a lot of experience round
the table. That's what we have. Mainly, we have a
good bunch of people down to earth, good people. They
really know what they're talking about. And then you can
get the most out of dirt, Then you can get
the most out of profit and loss. And then you
can also know and you sleep well at night that
you're being responsible for the environment as well.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Mainly minerals. People want to get in touch, how do
they do it?
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Probably just the website mainlyminerals dot com or if you
want to give us a call three two eight three
double zero four.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Good on you Murray. Always good to catch up, eh,
thanks Andy.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Murray Cobra and of mainly minerals. You know to say,
you're only as good as your dirt. Always got to
catch up with the team as it is. Next with
Penny Simmons, MP from the Cargo and Minister for the Environment.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
This is the Master. Welcome back to the Master.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Penny Simmons's MP from the Cargo as well as being
Minister for the Environment and joins us once once again
this afternoon, Penny Good.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Afternoon has been.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
A pretty hectic thirty six hours for the government, this
release regarding emissions.
Speaker 7 (38:16):
Yeah, it has been and the and I've just come
out of speaking in christ Church this morning at the
International Adaptation Futures Conference, so it was interesting timing for me.
But yeah, it was good to be here and it
was good to get the announcement out yesterday about the
resetting of our meet Dane targets and we had said
(38:41):
this as we came into government that we would relook
at the targets and had the expert group set up
to look at the targets and look at different scenarios.
They came up with a couple of different scenarios which
reflected between fourteen and twenty four percent. Have kept those
(39:01):
that as our target range. So I think it's really
important that it's giving clarity and certainty to our agricultural
sectors and it means that now it's going to be
science driven, technology driven in partnership with our agricultural sector
(39:22):
to get there. So if you saw the announcements, you'll
have seen that all our all the key peak bodies
from the agricultural sector with their standing alongside us, and
it is about working in partnership with our agricultural sector,
not against them, not closing down farms here and not
(39:43):
sending emissions leakage off ashore, seeing other farmers doing the
work that we could be doing, because we know that
we feed forty million people across the world and they
have to continue to be fed, and so we are
better to be having our various efficient farmers are doing
(40:03):
that work.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Must have been like walking into the lines then of
that climate adaptation conference this morning, well.
Speaker 7 (40:10):
It was an interesting situation because an international one and
so there was very much a focus on the Pacific Islands.
We had the minister from Tabalu the air and you know,
they're facing some really really difficult decisions, but we are
assisting them with significant amount of aid financial aid in
(40:33):
terms of helping them with their adaptation work. So they
are certainly getting recognized and assisted by New Zealand. But yeah,
they've got some difficult time to head some of the
smaller island nations.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Interesting how you view this now?
Speaker 1 (40:49):
The CIVICX will suggest that New Zealanders walking away from
expectations regarding the rural sector, regarding doing it a bit
for the climate. But I suppose FEDS are saying, well,
why are we gone to only fourteen twenty four percent?
Should be going lower.
Speaker 7 (41:03):
Yeah, look, we're never going to please everyone on this
those you've seen their reactions from the Green Party. They
just want to make it higher and higher. There are
some farmers who would like us to walk away from
it together, but I think it was really important to
see that the peak bodies were there beside us. Yep,
(41:25):
they probably would like it at the lower end, at
the fourteen percent end, there are others that would like
to see us pushed beyond the twenty four percent. So
I think that what we've done is take advice from experts,
look at what we can do with science and technology,
because we do not want to be shutting down our
(41:47):
biggest export earn our industry that feeds forty million people.
We don't want to be sending that offshore. So we
need to be working with our agriculture sector and it
needs to be possible to do. And we believe with
the science and technology that we're investing, and we're investing
millions in ensuring that there is a science and technology
(42:10):
there to assist their armors.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Is there a chance that our trading partners might look
at this as a cop out on our behalf regarding emissions.
Speaker 7 (42:18):
Yeah, Look, they're always looking for excuses, particularly trading partners
that have got agricultural sectors, are always looking for excuses
of being able to say why they, you know, should
be putting tariffs and things on air produce. But Ireland
is going down a similar track and we are going
(42:40):
to meet a emissions target by twenty fifty, so you know,
I think there's always that chance that trading partners are
always looking for a reason why they can put barriers
in faith for us.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
I read an article this morning. It was pretty condemning
about the whole thing. One paragraph just very quickly saying
the only thing this announcement is missing is an explicit
declaration that climate change isn't happening or it's not caused
by humans, although in its effects, the clear message the
announcement sends is one of indifference too, if not denial
(43:16):
of the hard reality of the climate crisis. Or is
that just terminology at play.
Speaker 7 (43:21):
Well, you must be reading the Green Party's website.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
In the Green Party's website, note the great Oh wasn't that?
Speaker 7 (43:29):
Look, there will be critics. There will be critics from
the green side that we are not doing enough. This
is not about saying there isn't climate change. It's not
about saying we're not going to meet our missions. It
is about saying we're giving certainty to our farmers. It's
about saying we're following the science in this and that
(43:51):
we are going to work with our agricultural sector to
get to those targets.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Rest assured it wasn't on the Green Party site, Petty Simmons,
but always appreciated I'm on the muster.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Enjoy the week.
Speaker 7 (44:02):
Thank you Surpi.
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Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hakanui, I
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Next, welcome along. Hope you had a good weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Shout out to the Tiana Young Farmers and organizing a
fantastic barkup event up there in the basin on Saturday
night and people traveling from.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
As far away as kuro I believe.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
So well done, money going towards the local cause and
some questionable haircuts walking around as a result.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Shout out Sarah Humphries, hope you're wearing a hat today.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Great to catch up and well done on an event
proving the young farmers is going ahead and leaps and
bounds local body politics as well to the four over
the weekend South and District Council retaining Rob Scott coincidentally
starting off the show shortly, but Ben Bow as well retained.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
As the mirror of Gorse. So over and done with.
You just need more engagement regarding local body politics right.
The music is def lepping for two reasons.
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and ten point one a, Riveton eleven point four, Winton eleven, Tiana,
Tittaroa and Woodlands all ten point six. Rob Scott, Southam
District's mayor once again for another three years, joins us,
(01:57):
telling us what he hopes to achieve for this term
and getting engagement in the voting process. What do we
need to do to change things? Bruceed of Colso joins
us in the Sergeant Dam farming roundup, Ben Dean ravage
of Glenham and arresting press release coming out from the
government yesterday regarding methane targets a reduction there, so Dino
thinks it's a good thing and why.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
It needs to go even further.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Marray Cober and like I say, from Mainland Minerals, we
have a catch up. He's in studio later in the
hour and then Penny Simmons MP from the Cargo, so
we'll start the hour next anyway, Rob Scott, you're listening
to the Muster and Hakanui. Thanks to Peters Genetics.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Rob Scott has been re.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Elected as a South Industrict council were for a second
term with a comprehensive victory in the local body elections
over the weekend and.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Joins us this afternoon.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Rob, Good afternoon, and firstly, congratulations on your reelection.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Good afternoon, Andy, thank you.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
You must be pretty toughed, especially with the margin that
you had.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Yes, yeah, but better than the thirty nine that I
got the last time, and a lot the result was
a lot quickers at this time as well. So yeah,
I'm really really stuck and quite humble next week. It's
a good result.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, Gary Thong of course previo yourself and distant council
here before yourself only forty five votes separating three candidates
in twenty twenty two. This time though, so far four
thy seven hundred and twenty six is a difference between
yourself and Gary?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
What do you put it down to?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Oh? Well, I sort of joked about it begging my
perform inch of you over the last of the six weeks,
and I mean addictively it was. And I've worked very
hard for Southland and it's comforting to kind of see
that that's I guess been recognized and I've got the
support of the community. So yeah, I'm very happy.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Talking about voted turnout. It's a concern all over the shit.
What do you put it down to? Is it just
fatigue regarding local body politics?
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Yeah, I can't work it out, and I think it's
something that I've basically written down as one of the
things to work on to try and get rid of
that empathy and that fatigue. I mean the government haven't
helped and sort of getting the big stick out and
turning us into a bit of a I guess there
was think boy kind of thing. But I think, I mean,
(04:25):
I spoke to a few people. I spoke to someone
sort of in that last week and I said to her,
have you voted, And she said, oh, no, not yet
voting all the election stage. Yeah, I haven't missed one yet,
but I was sort of left right to the last minute,
and she's sort of forgotten about it. So I think that,
I mean, the postal system, no one and I can't.
(04:45):
We don't check our out but very hoppen at home,
and then we don't really get much mail, so that
that's part of the problem, I think.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
But also.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah, we need to do something as a sector. I think,
I think the national averages at thirty percent, that's not
not very good.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
And a resting. You're talking about the rural post and
the likes.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
That's one of the things that's pretty contentious for a
lot of people at the moment.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
No, it's sometimes changes for the better, sometimes changes for
the worst.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
But it.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Fascinates me how we've got further and further ahead in
time and technology and increase, but sometimes the services don't
stay in there and the reliability of those sorts of things.
So yeah, it's our rural communities are very important and
we've got them actual that we can communicate with them properly.
And I think sometimes and I mean it's one of
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the things that we focus on. We have to deal
with a Southland district where decisions get made in the
cities in Wellington. Let's forget about how the rest of
the world that actually keeps the country going operates. So,
you know, it's one of the challenges of case.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Are you hopeful for a one hundred percent sour coverage
rate in Southland given that the talcos don't realize the
year twenty twenty five and certain parts of the south
Southern coast will exist.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Oh, most definitely make me more productive of my role.
I can tell you most of the patches and southand
but the phone receiptment runs out and I'm trying to
sort of have conversations while I'm driving around. And yeah,
it's pretty average. It would definitely be it's good to
see vodaphone. Well sorry, One New Zealand now keep talking
that vodaphone, But One New Zealand having that satellite kind
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of coverage. I think that's going to help as it progresses.
But it's something that needs to happen. It's yeah, very
important for rural people to take connected.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
So what are your priorities for this term.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Rob, Well, carry on, carry on doing the best of
South and looking. We've got such a great council. The
community's put forward a good grouping of sixty nine elited
members to work with, so we've got a few things
that we're going to carry on working on. Roading is
definitely the big one for us. I've got to finish
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that roading, funding journeys that have been on the government
and get some equity across there, and building up our
local democracy across all of our towns and getting them strong.
The reorganization is certainly going to dominate them in the background,
but there's other stuff to sort of work on at
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the same time as that as well. And we've got
such a great district. Big things around the import that
we're still going to be working on the stud isle
and electricity. It's progressing nicely. So there's a few big projects,
but I guess just for me, it's strengthening that local
democracy with our community boards and our great team that
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we're going to have around the table.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
You use that term local democracy, just explain it in
a bit more detail.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
So we've got nine community boards spread around southern district,
so we've actually got we were quite a unique council
with sixty nine elective members, which some people see as
a bit of a challenge, but I see that as
a as a real great strength and getting our decisions
made totally and that kind of local governance and local
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scrutiny over how they may pay money get spent. It's
a much better way of doing it. And it's I
think one of the great stress that we have here
in southwind.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
You talk before about rural roads.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Of course we've got one of the biggest roading networks
in the country. Can we actually see a time and
a place where our roads are set up to a
satisfactory stand And I mean you drive between the Cargo
and Gore for example, for being State in Hillway one,
it's diabolical in places like some of the Edendale Earl
it's unacceptable.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Yeah, it's quite fun to have having a conversation with
someone over the weekend about that. And I actually said,
and our roading team might give me a clipper around
the ears for this, But if we can get the
equitible roading funding because state Highway is actually worse than
our council managed roads, and if we could get appropriate
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funding we could actually look after the state highways as
well and keep them to this time standard. We've got
another road Donald. Some people might argue that our roads
aren't that good, but they are relative to the to
other parts of the country, they're pretty good. We've got
a good team there that are running on the smell
of an oily rag. So if we can get that
funding up, yeah, maybe we could look after the government
roads too.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
But do we need to compare ourselves to the rest
of the country or due respect. We need to stay
what works best for us totally.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
And that's that's what I've been in the conversation I've
been having with the politicians is don't punish us because
we're good. This is we are contributing to the rest
of the country where that huge export contribution that we
make from our royal sector and we need that investment
in our roads, and yeah, we shouldn't be compared to
the rest of the country.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
And all your right GDP figures for Tiger Southern Dateline
now as well the other Isshue you talked about council
amalgamation We've seen the debarkle over the weekend over two
hundred councilors or meres for that matter, and elected an
opposed throughout the country.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
You're going to be pushing this agenda.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Yeah, well, I launched I like the word amountaination. I
prefer the word reorganization. But having launched it what eighty
months ago, now it's an important piece. I think it
comes down to it, or were talking about at the
start as well. We've got apathy out there. If we've
only got in the late thirty percent, five to forty
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percent of the people turning. I think Gord did quite
well getting across fifty, but that shouldn't be a celebration.
When you get to fifty percent, we should be getting
eighty percent voted tearing out. So we need to get
our system for the purpose and touching on that local
democracy piece that I talked about as well, that's that's
the part where we can actually make this work really well.
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Celebrating our community boards, having those people that are there,
they're not there for the money, they don't get paid
very well for it, so they're clearly there for the
right reason. But getting that grassroots democracy happening, so you
still got really good representation, but taking away all the
overheads and the burden of having four councils to get
all the work done. So I think there's a very
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important piece of work to have a lot there and
the system that we're operaking and has been there since
nineteen ninety nine, it is time to change and that
might actually help with some of those those other issues
that we're having.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
So what's the ultimate goal for you regarding this? Perhaps
in three years time.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
This is all go.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Yeah, hopefully the local government commissions working on at the moment.
I have felt that the proposal of the two unitary
authorities coming out that it's my favorite, but it's important
now for the community to have the essay. So the
proposal has been launched this I guess the process has started,
but they're very important part now, so the community that
have a voice and have a say, and I would
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like to see the new system in place by the
next election.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Rob Scott re elected South and District Council may I
always appreciate your time in the muster.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Congratulations once again.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Thanks Andy, much appreciated.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Rob Scott re elected Mayor of a South and District Council.
You're listening to the muster. We're away to Calso. We
catch up with bruceed Bruceeed Farms at Calso in South
(12:15):
Totago and joins us in the Sergeant Dan Farming round
up each every Monday. We speak to various farmers in
different parts of the region. Of course, thanks to Sergeant
Dan stock foods here and Gore. Good afternoon, Good afternoon, Andy.
How are you pretty good yourself? You survived beth'st ok.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Yeah, no, we did. It was quite nerve wreaking. It
was a hell of a race. But yeah, night, we're
going good.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
So how are you looking out there?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Likes the growth in there, speaking to a lot of
people that's taking the check obviously with the way the
temperatures have been all over the show.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
How are you fearing?
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Yeah, well, I'd probably say we've turned the corner in
the last ten days. It was looking pretty bleak probably
into last month and the beginning of this one, and
we were all sort of the only thing that got
us through that thirty five miles of rain we got
about ten days ago, with the hope that we were
going to get nineteen twenty degrees for three or four
days last week, which thankfully we got and you can
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just see the grass waving in the wind now, so
it was welcome change.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
So the tick is starting to grow over your way
now more at least, then.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Yeah, it's done too. We're not certainly flushed with it
or anything, but you know, you can certainly see a
few days in front of you now, whereas it was
a wee bit of where we put in the cows
next scenario, but brought a bit of extra supplementary feed
to bridge the gap in that, which we're slowing down
on that at the moment. So probably not out of
the woods yet. I think it's a bit weak again
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next week by the stand of things, but to be expected.
But yeah, no, it's been it's been a bit of
a bit of a struggle I think for most people feedwards,
just in the last bloody six weeks. So it's down
south around I've been in the Carver once or twice,
I think, over Carving and sort of around the Edendale
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and parts of that look to have a lot more
grass than we did earlier on, and that don't mean
down there lately, so I'm mu sure how they're fearing,
but yeah, it just seems to be up here in
West Targo, we're a little bit boody, short or slowly
to get going.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
It was interesting yesterday, Bruce, the government coming out in
the media announcing is current twenty fifteen twenty fifty sorry,
methane target of twenty four to forty seven percent is
going to be reduced to what they're saying is a
more realistic target of fourteen to twenty four percent. Interesting
bringing out news releases on a Sunday.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Yeah, especially on beth Thursday.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Especially on beth Thursday.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I first I heard of it because I was fully
engrossed in the race yesterday till the very end. Was
this morning, come to the Kioski in the radio and
I said, well, that's quite unusual for it to be
a Sunday thing. But yeah, it's good news. I suppose
they've pushed things out in that, But the end of
the day, we're just carrying on farming here, doing what
we do, and we'll worry about that sort of rubbish
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when the squeeze really comes on.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yeah, you're pretty pragmatic in that scene inspiray saying that
whatever the case of us are, whatever will be, will be.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
But you just get I don't know grumpy.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
At the fact that all these extra taxes get lamped
on the real sector at the moment.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Oh, it's a tough one. I mean, if you've got
grumpy and pissed off excuse my language, after one at
all this, every single one of those stupid things that
they dream you'd give the game away. So, you know,
will we do it? Because we love the cares, being
outside and farming in general, the pleasure that you get
from a bit of success and fruits of your labor
and all those other cliches. So not only that stuff
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sort of get me down too much. That's for the
guys with shiny asses sitting and officers to work through.
And we're out on the on the ground floor or
at the grassroots doing our job. And yeah, I sort
of ignolmost that white noise until it really needs to
come to the crunch. You know, you can say you
can get your your neckers in a twist over it,
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and that you look what happened with grounds well, you know,
going back, I don't know how man years there was
now the big protest twenty twenty one, twenty twenty one, yeah, right,
that long ago put a line in the sand, that right,
farmers have had enough now, and I think that probably
send a message to the hierarchy that if you're enoyous
enough or you go down the wrong track far enough,
there is plenty of numbers and we will get up
and say, hey, we've we've had enough. So I think
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we have that a little little bit of power in
their back pocket in the sense of the year, we'll
we'll stand up and say hey, this isn't good enough.
If it gifts to that point.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
And the reathing you talk about individuals and ivory toilers
and the likes of Federated farmers be for lambdiry and
z etc. You're quite heavy to support their work they're doing.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Yeah, I guess, so they do what they do. At
the end of the day, they're not going away. I'm
obviously paying a levy to beef and lamb and paying
a levy to dairy in Z. I'm not a member
of feeds in that, but more power to them. It's
just because it's I don't have a problem with those guys.
Good on them for standing up for us all on that. Yeah,
sometimes you wonder where that levy go for some of
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that stuff, But that's another story for another day.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
What is the story today though? Is Bathist or Bathurst
depending on how you're supposed to pronounce that, I suppose.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
But like you say, you're an avid fan of the event,
and I'll be honest, I watched a hell of a
lot more yesterday than I imagined.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
That I would.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
But just that finishing there those that last five or
six laps doing two hundred and fifty clocks or whatever.
It was side by side and somebody right behind you.
You don't know what's ahead of you because of the weather.
It was just riveting TV and sported.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
For that too.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Oh it was you know, as I said, I've been
watching it since I was a part, so I've grown
up with it and yesterday. Last year was a bit
of a procession. It was reasonably boring, but the qualifying
that on Friday was the closest have been for a
long time, so it was quite exciting. And a few
big names, well most of the big names actually didn't
either make the finish or certainly weren't in the top teen.
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Dude to mechanicals and other bits and pieces. I think
mom of the day apart from the wind for Matt
Paying from m Zealand's chairs, most it's Mustang expired on
the straight, jumped the fence and went and had a
can of beer with the crowd. You know, it's it's
just as Bathirst as it comes. But like the last
probably twenty laps, the rain was coming in, felting down
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those boys. As you say, they're doing easy two hundred
and two fifty clicks in a lot of those places
and in close quarters combat a lot of faith and
the guy next to you hoping that he's not going
to drew into the fence because the lead changed hands
probably five or six times. Cars that were out of contention,
all of a sudden, we're into contention. Old mate went
for a last or went for a lunge pass there
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and got a five second penalty. So he did actually
win the race, but he ended up third because of
the penalty, so you know, it had all the drama
that Bathurst usually has. So yeah, it was even though
it was a Ford one. It's against my religion. It
should have been a shed, but anyway, that's how it rolls.
Good to see Matt Payne get up there and do
it and yeah, great day.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, Kvy's a fly once a game. Brice, appreciate your time,
No worries, We'll see you next time.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Bruce Seed of Cowso and the Sergeant Dan farming around up.
Thanks for sageint Dan Stock foods right here in Dean
Ravage is up next.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
You're listening to the muster. This is the muster on
Hock and.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Newly Dean Ravage Farms at Glenham and joins us once again.
Good afternoon. It's been a niffy week or two of
weather Dino since we last caught up. Are you seeing
a little bit more blue sky or is it just
a case of a continuation of the last week you?
Speaker 6 (19:40):
Good afternoon, Andy, Look now thanks haven't proved a lot,
haven't they really? Days are getting longer and a few
more sunshine airs, so yeah, but more heat going around,
especially every weekend. It was nice and it doesn't take
long for Pannis to green up. Little bed and Liam's
news to sit down and enjoy it really touch Yeah taken,
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and it's que juble.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
So you've had a bit of a tinge grow up
come out through the ground.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
Yeah we have. It's a deep shadow green now, which
is needed because it'll be leaves start obviously get the
passion into their diet as well, so yes, of just
juggling peddics around, making sure they're all stocked accordingly, and yeah,
things are going reasonably Okay, it's in.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
The middle of October, though, you kind of expect the
grass to be growing, right.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
Yeah, well I shouldn't We shouldn't it.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, yeah, tailing we were all right, went well.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
We've only done the one day and the terminal to
the b u's so yeah, there seems to be enough.
There always a pictual for some reason, aren't we But yeah,
early early figures in the cap we should be on path,
not a wee bit better than than last year, and
last year was one of their best ones. So yeah,
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we'll just see what happens and another sort of fortnight
when we when we tail everything else right up, Now, you've.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Got to change that terminology for the years. I've told
you this before that A and the b mods. You
can't use that in this day and age.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
D oh, yes, so I've got the capitalists and socialist.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Oh right, we just some of your best work. I'll
give you that one. Hey.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Look, it's been an interesting weekend as well, of course,
as methane target. The government's come out saying look, we
need to recorrect this going from a target to twenty
fifty have been twenty four to forty seven percent reduction
to a more realistic target of fourteen to twenty four percent.
But on top of that as well, Nestle pulling out
as a dairy methane action alliance, whatever that means.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Yes, been quite a productive weekend as far as that
sort of announcement goes for the real sector. Obviously, as
the zero percent target would be the ulpha going, I
think it'd be everybody's preferred position. But we've got what
we've got though, when you look at it in a
bit more context, I thanks twenty seventeen, which they're using,
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is the base you we've already seen a ten percent reduction,
and from what I understand the figures that I've been shown,
that only leaves us for another four percent to reduce
them the next twenty five years. So I could be
created on that. But if you look at a lot
of that, I think we'll get there quite easily with
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a bit of natural attrition unfortunately, and with some landy
has changed, so it's pretty good as good as a
zero percent target really if you want to look at
a lot of that.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
But it's certainly a change from twenty twenty two from
the Duran government just looking at a piece of paper
this morning from back then talking about a five year
pricing pathway which is to be established from this year
twenty twenty five going out to twenty thirty. Certainly a
change what the government wants to achieve.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Yeah, Like it just shows you how God we give
with my words here here how much of a waste
of time and effort and money both taxpayer and industry
money were spent on Hewoker are chasing this mythical target. Yeah,
so hopefully we can see the end of EGRA zero
as well, which is also spending a lot of industry
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money and producer money that could be used with some
really tangible environmental enhancements on farm rather than these biological
methane inhibitors which is just going to create another cost
and a lot of unproven science there as well. So
hopefully this reduction targets and nests they doing what they've
(23:30):
done or see. Well, I've obviously seen the end of
Hiwoka Canal, which is fantastic, and hopefully this personally we
see the end of EGRA zero as well.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Now Tesco, which is the biggest buyer of New Zealand
products in Britain. They wanted all their products to be
environmentally accredited and reaching the zero across their entire supply
chain by twenty fifty. I await to see what Tesco
comes out with as a result of this in due course.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
I think once they realized that the consumers are going
to have to start paying a lot more for their
product if they want to reach these targets, they sort
of loft. The ambitions might be redusced as well. Hopefully.
I know you've I've heard it on your show and
four that everybody sort of starts buying their food within
the environmentalists head on, but as soon as they get
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the checkout, they become an economist. So I think, yeah,
the cost of all this is actually going to start
to really have an impact on things.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Well, it's the cost of living crisis, and it is
that when you go to the supermark and do the
weekly shop. Geez, what as the comparison the other day
on a brand of biscuit twelve months ago, probably two
dollars two dollars twenty at most, now up to about
three dollars thirty three dollars forty that's just one item,
and so your shop's gone that by an average I
don't know, seven or eight percent over the last eighty months.
And that's just at a guess, and I'm probably too low.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
Yeah, I as you get a fight when you go
to the checkouts.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Now, like.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
A lot of people, well most people that probably listening,
sharn't the royal sector. We're very four that we're probably
able to supply a lot of their own meat that
we can grow on farm or really yeah, we're very
fortunately position, but I wouldn't like to have to be
back paying for it at the checkout along with everything
else that seems to have gone up significantly. It's not
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only the price has gone up, but I think the
packet sizes have also got a lot smaller as well.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Double yeah, Oh, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
You go and buy products and everything's just seemed to
have shrunk, and they've changed the packaging and they just
try and justify the rest now behind the changes.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
If only we could get paid more for smaller lambs
of being the winner, wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
We that'd be great, just getting paid all over the board.
But this is a positive. This is a great positive
will continues to go under a week in one direction,
and it's not the band either. It's talking about going upwards.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I mean at the can Every sale, the christ Church
sale last week, going up a potential of thirty two
cents once again.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Yeah, I even say that we'll spiked in the UK
as well, which is up over a pound twenty akedo
as well. So yeah, like that's really exciting for strong
Wold Seacret. It's obviously been the leg out of all
their basket of goods that we supply probably the last
thirty years really though, hasn't it, to be honest, So yeah,
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to be more than caring production cost of harvesting and
production costs. Now it's putting it in a really good
position again. So it's good to see and hopefully it's
for all the right right reasons. It's for it's extributes
rather than just a diminishing supply.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Well, it's like Jamie McKay mentioned a wee while ago,
ten dollars for met, ten dollars for wall, ten dollars
for milk.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
It'll be a good outcome.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
Oh yeah, take that end day of the week alright, a.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Little bit of sport because we can mpc a Tago
by a plenty, cam Miller Goreboard and rebel claim him
out there doing the demage for a Tago over way
Kadow just on the verge of extra time and Kennerbury
playing Hawk's Bay in the other game at Tago by
a plenty.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Whoever wins this game, I hope they win the whole coup.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
Yeah, well hopefully it's Tigo, really, don't we Yeah, being
high in his partner like that, but gee at this
pointed not to see Counties get overline against Kenworth. Think
everybody in the country would have been happy about that one. Yeah,
it's an exciting fuddy for semi final stuff. It's been
throwing around lot and even the Tarannecke Hawk's Bay game.
I thought Tarrannick, he was hard done by Tmo dislowing well.
(27:19):
I thought it was a reasonably obvious try in the
last sort of ten minutes that would have brought them
back with him seven. It would have made it quite
a green Stead finished as well, So here the semi
finals can live up to the quarterfinals. Went for a
good weekend, Ropy next weekend too.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
And bethurs yesterday you took a keen interest in. I mean,
how could you not watch that theater play out, especially
over the last forty five minutes.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
Oh yeah, g don't Australia do sport well?
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Just the bay so bloody well commentary and everything that
resonates with the less than the watcher.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
No, it was. It was fantastic. Yeah, it was put
on the TV here and well all day yesterday and
you sort of popway and the few jobs and come
back and see what was going on. And then when
the rain started, I thank everybody was the head of
dry seat. Was pretty heavy to watch that. See that
happening to those jobs are boy scale forward. Yeah, it
was quite exciting. Finish and a key to get over
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the line was even better.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Absolutely good on your day and always appreciate your time.
Thank you, Dane Ravage of Glennam. You're listening to the muster.
Up next Murray Cobra and from Mainland Minerals and before
the end of the year and Vacago MPE and Minister
for the Environment Penny Simmons, Welcome back to the muster
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on Hakanui, joined in studio by Murray Cobra and of
Mainland Minerals. He requested the music today and what Murray
wants he gets and Murray Good Afternoon Hysteria by Def Leppard.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Any particular reason.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
It's one of those songs that I just remember is
that when I was going through school, you know, it
was just one of those ones that was really popular
in and everyone was under it. So it was a
great bit of music of the time.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Playing it in the Seno tape recorder or absolute.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah, the JBC cansette recorder got given from a Christmas
present one time.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Trying to tell the Yager generation these days about winding
getting the pencil.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
They'll never get it, start and turn it over and
start again.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
All part of the fun. Main Land minerals.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Since we spoke last time, we've seen a bit of
a change and the growth patterns and the likes.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
But you guys as a busy time of year.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, definitely. I'm just looking at their growth. I was
coming up from Tiana today, Andy, and it's just I mean,
Tianne is pretty much skunked out at the moment, but
there's some you can see it's starting to move. But
the further you get down towards Gore, you know, down
that Belpha back Kingston crossing back Struck Road. There's there's
some really really good tucker there, so it's it's good
to see. And I see the saw temps are sitting
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there the last four days just under eleven degrees, just
sitting there at Tama there, and that's the outstanding you know.
We've got next got two big rainfall sort of steel
forecast for next week and later today and then I
think on the weekend. But other than that, just a
wee bit of dri drizzly rain and it's just good
sort of warm growing conditions so kept. I think three
(30:15):
or four days of sunshine amongst that too, hopefully, which
is what we need.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
And that's a big thing at the moment, I suppose,
isn't it just China when when you've had a slower
start the spring, trying to get the tucker to move on,
But quality tucker at that too.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Absolutely, and that's what we had a lot of guys
at the moment that are using the ignite end, which
is just something we've been just promoting a wee but
lately it's just it's got the quickened and quick and
slow nights, green and sulfur and and that's really important
this time of the year. You're wanting some tucker HEADI.
It's just it's key to get those two nutrients going.
Particularly you've got your pea levels are still relatively okay.
(30:50):
It's just trying the young grasses in particular, the clovers
aren't really producing that natural nights gen with you know,
takes a while to get that natural nightch and production
up to about the first eight months to two years,
so you really need to bridge that gap with some
artificial night gen. And as much as we don't like
using artificial night gen, it's actually a really important thing.
Otherwise you end up getting ahole lot of weeds and
stuff in your young grasses and that sort of defeats
(31:11):
the purpose of what you've done with your crops.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
It's at about having those tools in the toolbox.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Though, Oh absolutely dead right. So the other thing we
sort of talk about this time of the year is
actugat your saw testing done. It's something that knowing what
the detail is of the maje nutrients and trace elements,
it's really really important to understand that picture first across
(31:36):
your farm and then jigsaw your farm up and then
apply the different nutrients to the different areas without going
paddock by paddock, but just trying to get into sort
of two or three groups of fertilizer application and really
important to do that. Also, thinking back the last couple
of years with the economics of farming and the sheep
and beef guys, I know a lot of my clients
(31:57):
have been sort of backed right off, and now it's
time to really Now we got that weather in front
of us, it's really time to get that furd on
and get it, get it cranking, So get their value
out of your pastures that you've got in front of you,
and the cheapest way of growing tuckers on your farm,
but put the right nutrients on you get the best results.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
When you're talking to cockies at the moment, and they've
been hesitant because of the season, especially the sheep and
beef since you'll be noticing though a lot more sword
testing and there are fruit regimes.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Going back to how it was definitely then the intentions
there any but I think there's definitely been a bit
of people just waiting to see what hits the deck
with the numbers numbers of lambs on the deck and
how well you know, how things lock anyone's a week
but sort of you know, it all looks positive, but
let's just make sure we've got those animals that that
we can finish. That's and and I do the same thing.
(32:46):
I think, I think it's good thinking. But but but
at some point you've just got to make that call
and go right on into it.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
We've got the numbers. Things are looking good. We have
got good meat, meat, and even wolves looking even better,
isn't it so as bloody good? The lamb and b
side of things is awesome, so make the most of it.
But if you're going to finish so as quickly, you
want to make sure that you're putting that neutrin down
there into those pastures. And and also don't forget those
(33:14):
little egg sort of spark plugs making sure that those
those minerals are up to speed as well. And it's
it's often a big overlook thing. You can have everything
else pumping, but if you haven't got that those trace
minerals likes you and libdum and then for animal health,
you're going to have your copper and your zinc and
boron's really really important. Cobalt and selenium of course, so
(33:38):
and sometimes manganese can be an issue as well. So
just looking at what are those limiting factors across that
what what I call the other half of the wine barrel.
We can look at half the wine barrels, the major
new chance. The other half is the trace minerals, and
you want to make sure that if there's a big
def sit there, then you can have some major issues
as well with finishing animals.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Social media it's a great way to get your messaging
out these days. You've got Lisa in here running around
with the camera as well.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Not that that's intimidating or anything, but look, it's all
about getting in message out there. You'll be on TikTok,
no doubt, murray tick what tiktop tick tack, that's just
something you put in your mouth.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Yeah, no, no, I'm not very good on social media
at all. So it's something that we've we've always wanted
to figure out how do we do But it's a
bit better in that area. So we've got Yeah, we've
got Lisa on board here and she's done a bit
of video on here today, sort of behind the scene stuff.
So it's yeah, it's sort of how do you get
your message across how do you get your story across
(34:35):
of what you actually do and what's the genuine side
of what Mainland Minerals does and how we care for
our farmers and that that's a I see that social
media is a real avenue to do that and it's
and so far we've done extremely well with the short
short time we've been doing it. And we've got a
couple of other young guys that have been helping us out,
real real cool young guys up and Wanaka that are
(34:56):
just sort of I think it's a year year thirteen
if they was at school. They just they just start
their own company up and they're out doing all the
social media stuff and these ad campaigns and stuff, and
it's it's actually really really cool. So I'm learning lots
about it at the moment, and yeah, the views and
stuff have been amazing and it's quite it's quite interesting.
I just time will tell as to how that translates
into growing the business, But at the moment, it's it's
(35:18):
going extremely well.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah, Instagram, you some great reels on Instagram. You'll find
that out. All I know.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
All I know is my kids, I keep telling them
don't do doom scrolling. That's about the only way I
know on Instagram is that right? You just sit there
and keep watching.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Stuff flack flick. Now, you guys have got some awesome
sayings here. You're only as good as you do it.
That resonates in a.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Whole lot of ways, and a lot of people talk
about that. But the other one here as well, we're
not just about fertilizer. We're about helping farmers get the
most out of every paddock. You know, just shortened to
the point, but relevant to what you're trying to achieve, right.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Yeah, absolutely, it's yeah, we want to we want to
get as much out of that farm as we can,
and that that foot of soil under your feet is
just the most important thing. And if you don't fully
understand it, and you don't, well, if you're just getting
the same recommendations each year and you're just putting superphosphate
on and it's the same recommendation, and you sit there
and you go, I've just spent all those tens of thousands,
(36:16):
sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars and I've ticked the box.
What are you actually missing out on? And that's the
real key thing. You've got to make sure you get
those those details right and have a good grasp it
and so you so because at the end of the day,
you are only as good as that dirt that is
performing under your feet. So so get it, get stuck in,
get good people around you. And I think we also
talk about we talk about sort of products and fertilized
(36:38):
and it used to be guilty of this, you know,
but it's actually the service from your reps. You want
bloody good reps that know their stuff and they can
really help you get to the bottom of things and
and and rip that information out of the soil so
you understand the details and you put the right fertilizer
on to meet those deficits. And it can be compaction,
(36:59):
it can be different other thing things that you're not
thinking about. You just looking at the sal test. So
you need someone that's got a lot of experience round
the table. That's what we have. Mainly, we have a
good bunch of people down to earth, good people. They
really know what they're talking about. And then you can
get the most out of dirt, Then you can get
the most out of profit and loss. And then you
can also know and you sleep well at night that
you're being responsible for the environment as well.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Mainly minerals. People want to get in touch, how do
they do it?
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Probably just the website mainlyminerals dot com or if you
want to give us a call three two eight three
double zero four.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Good on you Murray. Always good to catch up, eh,
thanks Andy.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Murray Cobra and of mainly minerals. You know to say,
you're only as good as your dirt. Always got to
catch up with the team as it is. Next with
Penny Simmons, MP from the Cargo and Minister for the Environment.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
This is the Master. Welcome back to the Master.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Penny Simmons's MP from the Cargo as well as being
Minister for the Environment and joins us once once again
this afternoon, Penny Good.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Afternoon has been.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
A pretty hectic thirty six hours for the government, this
release regarding emissions.
Speaker 7 (38:16):
Yeah, it has been and the and I've just come
out of speaking in christ Church this morning at the
International Adaptation Futures Conference, so it was interesting timing for me.
But yeah, it was good to be here and it
was good to get the announcement out yesterday about the
resetting of our meet Dane targets and we had said
(38:41):
this as we came into government that we would relook
at the targets and had the expert group set up
to look at the targets and look at different scenarios.
They came up with a couple of different scenarios which
reflected between fourteen and twenty four percent. Have kept those
(39:01):
that as our target range. So I think it's really
important that it's giving clarity and certainty to our agricultural
sectors and it means that now it's going to be
science driven, technology driven in partnership with our agricultural sector
(39:22):
to get there. So if you saw the announcements, you'll
have seen that all our all the key peak bodies
from the agricultural sector with their standing alongside us, and
it is about working in partnership with our agricultural sector,
not against them, not closing down farms here and not
(39:43):
sending emissions leakage off ashore, seeing other farmers doing the
work that we could be doing, because we know that
we feed forty million people across the world and they
have to continue to be fed, and so we are
better to be having our various efficient farmers are doing
(40:03):
that work.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Must have been like walking into the lines then of
that climate adaptation conference this morning, well.
Speaker 7 (40:10):
It was an interesting situation because an international one and
so there was very much a focus on the Pacific Islands.
We had the minister from Tabalu the air and you know,
they're facing some really really difficult decisions, but we are
assisting them with significant amount of aid financial aid in
(40:33):
terms of helping them with their adaptation work. So they
are certainly getting recognized and assisted by New Zealand. But yeah,
they've got some difficult time to head some of the
smaller island nations.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Interesting how you view this now?
Speaker 1 (40:49):
The CIVICX will suggest that New Zealanders walking away from
expectations regarding the rural sector, regarding doing it a bit
for the climate. But I suppose FEDS are saying, well,
why are we gone to only fourteen twenty four percent?
Should be going lower.
Speaker 7 (41:03):
Yeah, look, we're never going to please everyone on this
those you've seen their reactions from the Green Party. They
just want to make it higher and higher. There are
some farmers who would like us to walk away from
it together, but I think it was really important to
see that the peak bodies were there beside us. Yep,
(41:25):
they probably would like it at the lower end, at
the fourteen percent end, there are others that would like
to see us pushed beyond the twenty four percent. So
I think that what we've done is take advice from experts,
look at what we can do with science and technology,
because we do not want to be shutting down our
(41:47):
biggest export earn our industry that feeds forty million people.
We don't want to be sending that offshore. So we
need to be working with our agriculture sector and it
needs to be possible to do. And we believe with
the science and technology that we're investing, and we're investing
millions in ensuring that there is a science and technology
(42:10):
there to assist their armors.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Is there a chance that our trading partners might look
at this as a cop out on our behalf regarding emissions.
Speaker 7 (42:18):
Yeah, Look, they're always looking for excuses, particularly trading partners
that have got agricultural sectors, are always looking for excuses
of being able to say why they, you know, should
be putting tariffs and things on air produce. But Ireland
is going down a similar track and we are going
(42:40):
to meet a emissions target by twenty fifty, so you know,
I think there's always that chance that trading partners are
always looking for a reason why they can put barriers
in faith for us.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
I read an article this morning. It was pretty condemning
about the whole thing. One paragraph just very quickly saying
the only thing this announcement is missing is an explicit
declaration that climate change isn't happening or it's not caused
by humans, although in its effects, the clear message the
announcement sends is one of indifference too, if not denial
(43:16):
of the hard reality of the climate crisis. Or is
that just terminology at play.
Speaker 7 (43:21):
Well, you must be reading the Green Party's website.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
In the Green Party's website, note the great Oh wasn't that?
Speaker 7 (43:29):
Look, there will be critics. There will be critics from
the green side that we are not doing enough. This
is not about saying there isn't climate change. It's not
about saying we're not going to meet our missions. It
is about saying we're giving certainty to our farmers. It's
about saying we're following the science in this and that
(43:51):
we are going to work with our agricultural sector to
get to those targets.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Rest assured it wasn't on the Green Party site, Petty Simmons,
but always appreciated I'm on the muster.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Enjoy the week.
Speaker 7 (44:02):
Thank you Surpi.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Laugh out loud with a proud because life on the
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(44:30):
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Speaker 2 (44:34):
The backast going up shortly.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
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