October 19, 2025 • 42 mins
Andy Muir talks to Jamie King, Joseph Mooney, Ben Dooley, Craig Wiggins and Nick Bewley.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
I don't want to know. Good afternoon, and welcome to
the muster on Hakanui. I'm ending myoy here until two
o'clock thanks to Peterson X, thanks for your company. Welcome
to Monday afternoon. Although it is a tarar damp down
here in g town, if we're perfectly honest, we'll talk
away the shortly. Firstly, congratulations in North Otago and mckennerby
doing the damage in the Heartland competition and a Targo
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beating bath plenty and Kennary getting the chocolates over hawks
Fa so once again in All South Island final next weekend,
so Rugby coming to its conclusion before the Aubecks head
away overseas. The music today Maroon five.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
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Speaker 1 (00:52):
The proof is in the Progeny Tiffron dot co dot NZ.
And unfortunately the forecast is a continuation of what we
have this afternoon, so I might pay just to keep
an eye out on river levels and the likes as
is where the continues. This afternoon brings light rain with
breezing or westerlies and twelve Tuesday showers of breezing or
westerly six and ten and Wednesday cloudy with breezing nor
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Westleys nine and fifteen. Thursdays very similar rain with breezing
nor westerlyes three and fourteen and on Friday change it up.
Shall we afternoon showers a breezing or westerlies goodness me
six and twelve so temper just to hand. Clinton ten
point nine, Harriet nine point one, Northern South and ten
Riveton eleven point five now ten point six, Tidorouh Woodlands
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and Winton all nine point eight. Jamie King of Leke
Horoco starts us off for a Monday afternoon, followed up
by Joseph Mooney, MP for Southland, talking about aggraturism announcements
sound here in the South. Joseph was there earlier this
morning and taos is about all these co initiatives are
happening down here. Regarding it. Ben Dooley talking to the
Alliance group and just happenings on farm as he tries
(01:53):
to get a bit of tractor work done. Dar us
say it. Craig Wiggy Wiggins lean on a gate, talk
to him mate. A couple of events happening down here
this week. The Wiggy encourages encourages you to get along too,
and you talk to zb's Nick Bewley talks some sport
to wrap up the show. But straight off into it,
we talked to Jamie King. This is the Muster until
two o'clock thanks to Peter's genetics. So Jamie King fans
(02:19):
are like Herroko and joins us this afternoon in the
Sergeant Dan Farming ground up. Thanks for Sergeant Dan stock
foods here and go Jamie. Good afternoon, dear, I ask
what is the weather doing?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Now? I'll just listen that interest song Andy and I've
been a bit of love mate, But the weather's going
to be start so you can get some lost choices,
that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Well you said before the weather can get its head
from out of its proverbial and actually start playing ball
for a change.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, wow, mate, I think we're all about two thirds
away through springing and that I think we've still got winter. Yeah,
I've got to extend the daylight airs, but that's about
all theirs at the moment, pretty voluntil morning and night.
And I've got the river bank to bank and everything
needs flippers and snorkels again, which is challenging, but that's
all right, you sort of it's been the last six
(03:07):
weeks getting excited to get something done off the Becka
winter and just mother and Max is not really playing
the game.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
So we're about say you as far as the October
workload at the moment, I mean, have you even got tailing?
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Nah?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
No, heavan he moved to the tailing peen mate. There's
a few lambs that need tail they get in there.
Started playing a bit of velvet off the other day
and it's it's going to be a challenge all season
with selling us and it's well, it's just going through
the motions really trying to get some cereal and I'm
not lucky enough to even look at starting that yet.
(03:40):
And yeah, so you get some calves, the better the
marked and what you say to the tailor in the way,
but you sort of start chomping at the bit, but
you just can't do much. Plenty of workshop jobs.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
You just got to keep on keeping on us.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, oh love, we were here this toim last year too,
weren't we. Oh, we've had a few more sun choine
airs I suppose this spring, so probably a little bit
of shead and grass growth that. Yeah, it just doesn't
make getting anything else done any easier.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
What would you say your own fall has been so
far for the previous six weeks I think.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Twenty eighth August Mate, well up to about a week ago.
We're just show a four hundred mil I think, so
it would be about four eighty now, because I mean
we had a twenty five million here on whenever that
was Friday night. Said that, yeah, Friday night and then
yeah do you say we've had another two inches since then? Again,
so m she's a battle, but that's all right. It's
(04:38):
fickle and turn. A couple of cobbers up in North
Canterbury and they just had a guts full of northeasters.
Pivots are going and they're still getting frosts and it's
getting blown around. So there's one thing for sure, Andy,
there's no silver bullets in agriculture. So you just gotta
you think your beds, you paste everything around and have
a catch up with some people just to because everyone's
(04:58):
got their different different fights.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, we're talking to Craig Wiggy Wiggans later on in
the yell. A great point you bring out there, Jamie,
just about collaborating, connecting with your mates having a yarn,
having a shan, chewing the fact, go around, have a stubby,
have a coffee, do whatever, and just keep in touch
with people.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Right, Yeah, I had a sentory. Just go for a drive, mate,
you know, you know we're just different head of what
it is over your way and what he is. Maybe
not today, but.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
It's always good.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
That's yeah. We're creatures of socialness, the human beings that
paced to pace to keep talking because, like you say,
you think it's been in your camp, but it's always
someone else has always got other things going on. It's
can be bad everywhere. So you just got to just
keep talking and they can't run for Randy, and then
little Sudd'll be out and we'll won't even know what
we're thinking about.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
How does your lamb drop? See that looks pretty good?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Some good lambs getting around.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Yeah, for the most part, pretty good.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Your condition is probably a little bit better than what
we've sort of anticipated. I'm cheating them in a condition
off some cows at the moment, just they haven't quite
got the covers head of them as well they need.
And the happies stock class to be fear of the horns.
They sort of spread out now and it's living the dream.
But yeah, that lamb drop looks pretty good. I might
(06:12):
probably be. I don't think it'll be the record breaker,
but it won't be the worse than last year, sir, Yeah, it'll.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Be what it'll be now the Alliance group. It sounds
as though we find out tomorrow morning what happens regarding
this Dawn Meats announcement. What's your get feeling on this, Jamie,
the people you speak to, what are you thinking is
going to change tomorrow?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Well, I see they've got they've passed the C four
percent three sholder writer turn out from all accounts. So
we'll wait and see. I know I've meant gat thing.
I think it will go. Yes, interesting enough, I see
the all Meats have come out with a bit more money,
which is they obviously want it pretty badly, but for
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right or wrong, not long ter. I mean, you're you know,
I don't know if it's a good thing for the
New Zealand meat sector. A lot of sure money and
so they can squash us through a little fellow on
the global table as it is that short term. I
suppose it needs to happen at the end of the day, mate,
when the banks want their money. The banks want their money.
It's the one that's guaranteed when you take loans out
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is they want to back some part of it. So,
like you say, just gone back ten years ago, we've
put a full sighted of can I believe some board
directors would have been quite nice. We possibly wouldn't have
been in this situation, but can't look back any so
we'll just box on and see what happens.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I suppose we've talked about this before, Jamie having a
collaboration of Silverfarin Farms and a Lionce group for example.
Are changes to the red meat industry in New Zealand
about people talking about this being the catalyst for change.
This should have happened back in twenty fifteen, a lot
of people's opinions to form a super cooperative for the
red meat sector. Do you think anything changes tomorrow regardless
(07:52):
of what way the vote goes.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Ah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Mate, Yeah, so would be good. You need competition to Andy, Yeah,
from private guys, because you've from the private guys. I
normally got a bit more on the line than some
drinkers that we will board members that you just vote
on there. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know, mate,
(08:16):
Crystal Ball grades and there's no new norm there. Just yeah,
there's what it is, declining red meat numbers. It might
be a great thing. I don't know. The world needs protein,
but we send to have done a terrific job of
excluding ourselves from what's going on the world stage in
this country since well arguably you know, pre COVID days.
(08:36):
We'll we're in the twenty twenty mark. So we'll don't
We'll wait and see, We'll wait and see. I think
it's all unknown ground. But there's other meat companies out there,
and their books aren't trading that good either. You know,
we're still probably over capitalized ably. But yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
You just sound frustrated at the lack of leadership in
the industry.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I've been time, mate. I mean, yeah, it's you know,
there's another aspect of it, the velvet things interesting one
at the moment. You know, we got a huge a
lot of that float around and you know, Toning one
market and it's all coming back and we're getting told
what we need to do here in New Zealand and
grading and grown and what have you. And I said, well,
how about you guys get off your backsides and go
and sell it into another market. Do something else, well,
(09:20):
get a bit of entrepreneurs about it. What else can
we do with it? You know, like just suffers from
New Zealand. Guys, got this tall poppy syndrome. You know,
it's a real sit in the corner and pick yourselves
in the back and say how good you are? But
I mean that only flies for so long. And it's
twenty twenty five and ninety ninety five anymore, so people
just start thinking outside the box a wee bit more
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of it.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Good only Jamie. We'll catch up in due course and
interesting to see how tomorrow wines.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Ope, hey, but don't appreciate that any Good on.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
You men, Jamie King of Lake Heroko and the Sergeant
Dan Farming ground up. Thanks for Sergeant Dan stock foods
here and go. Joseph Mooney in Peter south and we
speak next is the muster?
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Beautiful are you?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Joseph Mooney is MP for Southland and joined us this
afternoon on the muster. Good afternoon, Joseph, and how are you? Yeah?
Pretty good. It's a damp start to the week around
the province. By the sounds of it. Agritourism is a
big thing, especially down here in the South these days.
You're at Tom O'Brien, a very well known voice head
and muster listeners. Regarding agritourism, there was an announcement, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
There was had the launch of the Otago South and
Egraturism Network and Tom's well shed this morning, which is
which is awesome. Actually, you're just raising the profile, raising
the ability to be able to connect across the aggre
Tourism network and Otago and Southland and yeah, two parts
(11:00):
of the economy that are hugely important to our region
and nationally actually, you know, agricultural and tourism and just
a really cool option. You need to further highlight the
awesome stuff is happening in that space and maybe you know,
showcase that there's an opportunity for other folks who might
be interested.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
So we're seeing a lot of new ventures get off
the ground regarding egratourism in the South. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Look, I'm aware of someone that are bubbling away that
people plan to kick them off. And then there's other
well established ones and I mean, you know, Time's got
you a very good one. Welcome go on his station
and it should infect My wife booked us a Knight
and Cavin up on the on the tops there a
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two years ago to celebrate our one of our winning anniversaries,
and so we hiked in and stayed the night. You know,
you got the hot tip out under the stars, incredible
views and just awesome of the country.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
We're hearing all about this situation with the Lions regarding Dawn.
What's your take on it all?
Speaker 6 (12:04):
Well, yeah, I sort of it's up to the voters,
that is, decide which direction they want to go, and
then we'll see what happens if they decide to go
with door mates, you know, and as they decided they
want to do something else, then we'll be closely looking
at that. So I'm watching it very closely as the
sort of the probably extentive I when I say about that,
(12:26):
until they've made their decision. You know, there's been talking
about rationalization for the years and hasn't really happened. And look,
it's I mean, now now's a probably a good opportunity
to take a look at the fundamentals of it. That's
you know, going very very strongly now after a few
really challenging years, and it's like an awesome sector and
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I think it's going to be increasing demand globally. There
was a chance for us to take a look at
home and there's been built over, you know, generations in fact.
And yeah, so look like I'm watching with great interest
what the outcome of the vote will be tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
One of the scenarios I suppose being this doesn't get
accepted tomorrow then is certainly going to be an intriguing
time for the red meat sector.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Right.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
Yeah, Look, I'm not going to say too much at
the stage, but what I will say that, cleaving very
close on.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
It, a mega strike is happening on Thursday all around
the country. Teachers, doctors amongst others are going on strike
and a messive one of that as well. But what
Palestine has been brought onto the agenda? What's this all about?
Speaker 6 (13:29):
Yeah, and that's that's just concerning them, and it just
makes it look like that's sort of student activists running
running the unions. Frankly, I mean the fact that they'd
make Palestine the number one topic discussed with the New
Zealand Education Minister. The sensus yes, that they're just playing
politics as opposed to focusing on what's best for New
Zealand kids and know how the government and teachers can
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work together to make sure, you know, we deliver the
best education possible throughout because they have the best future possible.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
So it's really just important from the unions.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Strantly, there's a lot of frustrated pearance as well, given
us a Thursday having to reorganize their days for strike action.
And I wouldn't say every primary school in the Gore
regions involved with it, but there seems to be more
than not.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
Yeah, well it's it's up to union members decide. I
guess what how they how they respond to it. But
it's we're all working hard with the resource we've got
available to the best outcome for all news Yealanders. And
and you know, our kids are something that this government
has taken incredibly seriously. We've we've delivered a lot for students,
(14:38):
for parents and for teachers. In fact, uh one of
one of Ericasanpa's and Minister Vacation's policies was turned out
a while ago, hours to pay the teacher registration fees
for example. You know, you know acknowledging that it's it's
not an easy time for anyone, you know, with you
it's going to sue markets, that's not cheap. But look,
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we're everything we can to support our teachers, you know,
who have fire large and doing a great job in
delivering on a big change program which is making you know,
significantly measurable improvements for kids. And that's ultimately I think
what all of us should be focused on. And I
think all of us, probably our folks are really fit
the mentals. How can we make sure our kids get
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the best education possible in New Zealand so they can
have the best future possible.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
So what's on the agenda for this week, Joseph.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Well, I'm trucking to God at the mom We're going
to be having a meeting with folks from different councils
across the region. That's myself, Miles Ennison and Gary Kellerhoff.
Now see, have invited folks to come and hear from
this Australian company who got what is what they called
nano Bubbler technology which increases the auction content of a
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water molecule about seventy percent net for super increases a
bit to you know, proceeds other things in the water
of the biolitical mechanisms and it's seems to quit quite promising.
You got a briefing on it a few months ago,
and yeah, able to able to prost things things a
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hell a lot faster and potentially a lot cheaper. So
I thought it was just worth our councils having a
look at it. So we're doing that stuff known and
then from there I've got to drive to Donners to
get up to Wellington and then all we can they
can part them for the rest of the week.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
So I'll ask you again, like I asked Ge last week,
you're wearing your blue and gold jersey this week.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
Up there, made I haven't found time to go and
keep myself.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Surely you have a Highlanders jersey in your clothes, yeh,
If you've.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Got you got got one I can borrow. While I'm
coming to go, I'll grab it off you.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Well, I've got a marine Highlanders top and nothing blue
and gold unfortunately, but I'm sure you'll be able to
be accommodated somewhere along the line.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
Right, Yeah, maybe maybe when I'm well. Actually I'll just
be going straight to the airport and done us, so
probably won't catch you know, outside of the probably won't
get a take one up. There's a little bit of
a tight schedule.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
John you good on your Joseph Mooney. We understand you
are very busy. We always appreciate your time on the muster.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
I got there.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
They appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Joseph Mooney, MP for Southland. If anybody is at to
meet an airport, some safe today. And what's the blue
and gold jersey for Joseph Mooney to We're up in parliament.
Ben Dooley's up next. This is the muster.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
The musters on the farm brought to you by Southland
District Council working together for a better Southland.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Ben Dowey Farms just out of Windham, Sheep, beef and
YouTube farmer deals. Good afternoon, Good Andy. Here's a gown,
not bad, but as a look outside, it's just a
tad wet. I'd imagine the situations to say that your place.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
She's pretty miserable ear there at the moment and to
be fear of the forecast for the next nine or
ten days does not look much better, but it was
worse for some of them. But we're reasonably I wouldn't
say we're up to date, but we're reasonably. Yeah, we've
got a fear of stuff done the last few weeks,
so weather's going to do what it's gonna do. Well,
it's gonna work with it. But yeah, I think we're
sort of sitting.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Okay, you managed to get the tailing done last week?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Yep. Yeah, it was a bit earlier than I'd like
to go, especially if there's two disc lemming a bit
late lot they always do. But in hindsight, on Bloody Gred,
we got it done because it was a nice day.
We've got one we share. Right at the end of it,
Sarah managed to say to the contract that is just
before lunchtill we're just before twelve, Oh that rain stayed
away for the day, hasn't it. And we all just
looked at her and went, what did you say? And
sure enough the last pen we got rain, but that
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was it. So yeah, got that job done. All done
by sort of three thirty, and numbers are looking reasonable.
We're up on last year. We got absolutely emmered last year.
Everyone got a bit of a hiding this year. But yeah,
at least we're up a wee bit. We should have
another three or four hundred more lambs to kill, so yeah,
positives there and yeah, now.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
It's a hot topic at the moment, being we find
out tomorrow morning. This a lot proposal regarding Dawn meets
Jamie McKay on the Country previously speaking to Pete Turner
and Mosbourne, are you cautiously optimistic about what way this
is going to go?
Speaker 4 (19:09):
I don't even know if I'm cautiously optimistic. Obviously I
want the deal to go through. I think it's going
to be pretty close. One thing we've heard, I think
that that here was that Riley says there's eighty four
or eighty four percent of shares have already voted, So
at least we've had a good turnout that by as
well in favor of given that fifty percent line, that
fifty percent marker across. But yeah, it's just whether we
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get that seventy five percent in favor of. I'd like
to think we will, but yeah, there certainly won't. We
won't be making any calls. I wouldn't be making any
placing any bets on it until we actually know tomorrow.
It's yet too close for comfort for me.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
So the farmer, as you speak to, what are their
thoughts around it? I mean it's very varied. I've heard
that as well. What are you hearing?
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Yeah, I'm the same, very varied. Once again, don't really
know of anyone who's changed their minds since the whole started.
People are either for it or against it. Yeah, it
sounds to me a little bit like the bigger farmers
are against it. But then by the sounds of it,
the third party guys as a general rule, tend to
be in favor of it, and some of them we've
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got some pretty big shareholdings too. So yeah, people are
either And the people that I speak to that are
against it aren't in favor of the deal of the
Big five either. They're not in favor of pouring a
whole lot of money, and they send to talk about
wanting to see it sold up. Just just go to
other companies and see what happens there, which I mean,
there's potentially some benefits there. But I will say if
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that happens, my personal viewers that launs will close, an
alliance won't get any money out of it when it closes.
I don't think I could be wrong there. But if
we lose that, I mean, what is it the largest
sheep processing plant in the Southern Hemisphere or in the world.
Possibly even we need to reduce capacity within our industry,
but I don't think closing the biggest one is the
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right place to start, so wee a bit scared about that.
But yeah, we'll just see what happens.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
It'll be interacing what does unfold. But you can't tell me.
There has been countered talks going on behind the scenes
if it is a no vote as well regarding Alliance,
and perhaps I don't know, somebody the government and one
way shape or Formers perhaps is what the next option
would be, because that would be pretty blase on their behalf.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Well, we did here Onceton the other day talking about
how he's danced against it and that maybe the company
should have come to the government. I don't personally believe
the government has any space any place in these negotiations.
And I'm not sure that I'm a fan of the
idea of corporate bailouts too. As much as it would
short term work in their favor this time, it would
open the floodgates for all sorts of things to happen.
If we look back to the Hubard finance thing, I
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was pretty against that being backed by the government. Yeah,
it's the way New Zealand works. It's not really a
place we should be going but I'm sure there's conversations
with other processes as well. I'm sure, like if if
Alliance closes, obviously the other some of the other processes
are going to be looking to snap up those plants
because they're going to have an influx of people looking
to kill lambs. The lambs have got to be killed somewhere,
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haven't they end cattle? So something will definitely happen. It's
just what shape that takes we don't know. But yes,
I'm sure conversations are being had behind closed doors.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
But regardless what happens tomorrow. Over capacity as a concern, being.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
One hundred percent agree, yeah, we definitely have too much capacity.
But I guess from my point of view, like just
listening to the previous generation talk about the way things
have been in the past, will we need to address
that over capacity? Like I say, I'm not sure shutting
the largest sheeap meat processing plant in the Southern Hemisphere
is a great place to start. We probably need to
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be looking at closing down some smaller plants fir ust.
But then the problem you run into there is those
smaller plants are running very profitably at the moment. Then
I do wonder two how much of their over capacity
does get sold to third party traders and gets put
through Lawnville. Anyway, we know a bit of that happens.
And if we lose Lawnville, I like I say, I
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just get scared. You don't just want to go all
in and say right, let square says down to absolute
minimum capacity required, because then we're going to be having
our allocated space every year. You won't be able to
change it. You'll have to kill when you've got space,
as opposed to having that flexibility to shift your kill
according to grass growth. And well, I understand that costs
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the industry a lot of money. It also makes it
a lot of money, and we need to find a
happy medium in between there not go from one polar
extreme to the other.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
It's interesting though, speaking at individuals over the weekend who
kill third party and you know, maybebout three thousand lambs
or something like that, there's their lamb kill for the season.
But you totally get it. You can do it if
you're getting above seed or of course you've got to do.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
That, oh one hundred percent. I've got nothing against the
third party guys.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
The nature of the game, right, The argument.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Is that of Lawnville disappears, then a lot of the
third party guys will have very little area to go.
But by all means, we always used to get quite
upset about the third party thing, and I didn't realize
that they were all shared up, and a few years
ago when I found out they were shared up, it's like, well,
if they're shared up and they're supplying, you can't really
be against that. They've got their money and the thing,
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they're entitled to their space and they're working out, they're working.
They're just they're just using the systems their advantage. So
absolutely nothing against those courses.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Just finally, your YouTube, your YouTube channel, Deep South Sheep
and Beef. Anything been happening there lately? You're just too busy?
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Yeah, No, I've got three or four videos yet since
I was talking to you last time. One get a
bit of grass and uh might have been shedding out,
I think, and something else. And there's another one. It'll
just be a really instrumental one on tailing. It's pretty
hard to do much recording when you're tailing.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
So when you say instrumental, what are you playing the
guitar in the backery on what's ago?
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Instrumental? Might not be the best read to use this.
It'll just be a whole lot of clips put together.
There'll be no talking or anything in it. It'll just
be a bit of noise from the lambs and a
bit of music over the top and I don't know,
four or five minutes long maybe and just yeah, as
opposed to a usual type of videos, it'll just be
I don't even know what the right word is, but
a cinematic experience, you might.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Say cinematic experience. It here from Ben Dooley. First, always
appreciate your time. Will you wait tomorrow? Not good on you, Andy,
Ben Dooley. Sheep farming and bee farming for that matter.
Down there whindom you're listening to the Muster before the
end of the hour, and yous talk Zeb's Nick Bewley.
But up next Craig Wiggy Wiggins. Welcome back to the Muster.
(25:25):
Craig Wiggy Wiggins, lean on a gate. Talk to him, mate.
We've spoken to Wiggy in the past about the work
he's doing there around rural mental health, and we catch
up this afternoon. A couple of events on the horizon
down here in the Deep South. Wiggy house things.
Speaker 7 (25:38):
Yeah, it's going to be great to be back in
your area. Andy. To be fair, I'm looking forward to
to being down there in the next few days with
Clump next. So yeah, that's great.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
They told me.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
The weather's not been there flesh down.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
It's been interesting. It's been challenging for a lot of
people we had last year. It hasn't been as wet,
but only in some places only marginally dry, a wiggy.
I don't know. I think it's just spring being spring,
but it's just frustration.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
Yeah, no, definitely made it has been but on and
often Mid Canterbury as well. It's actually we've had huge
nor Westers up here and everyone in the second them already,
so a long way to go in that space. But
never mind. Let's talk about what's going on down your way.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Absolutely now you're coming down Southworth Lee Nonygate. Talk to
a mate I think called Club Connect as well. A
couple of cool things going on.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
Yeah, definitely so. Slade McFarlane, myself and Andy Rowland when available,
we have from Foresight Bar have been traveling around the country.
We've been everywhere from Gisbone to down to Greymouth and
the Cargo of course, and up to Auckland and we're
back in that area of yours now because we really
believe that you know that it's important work we're doing.
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And Club Connectors were Club's New Zealand, the Workingmen's Clubs
are Arisas, et cetera. They've got behind us and said, hey,
we we're a bit of a best deal of connection
in rural New Zealand. Would you like to come do
some talks around the country and we can tell everybody
what you've not available and then from there we can
find those people that want to be trained in the
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area to be those connectors of people that reach out
and can help people when they are in need, or
that people can go to when a need and they
can facilitate some help. So it's a pretty big project
and we're pretty proud of it. It's been going really
well around the country. And now that we've got a
understanding or a partnership with Mates in Construction to provide
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training services throughout rural New Zealand for our really especially
our rural service industries, but big farms and corporates as well. Yeah,
it's going well.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
You talk about mental health issues in the rural sector,
what about what's the tradees, what's it like there.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
So if you actually have a look at construction, for example,
the construction industry is probably number one for suicides in
New Zealand, and rural New Zealand is right next to it.
The primary industry is right next to it, not far behind.
So there is a lot of a lot of snagair,
as I've said, between in the two organizations. And you know,
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we actually know antecdotically that if you have a training
program in place, if you're a big business and you
actually have a mental health program such as what we're
talking about with the lean on the Gate program, you
can actually reduce a number of people thinking about suicide
at any one time by half, just by having that
approach or putting your arm around somebody and saying that
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we're here for you. You're a big part of our organization
and we we value your health and well being, especially
mental health, and we have pathways for you to take
if things aren't trucking too well, either in the business
or outside of the business. You know, it's a it's
a great realistic approach, you know, and we all we
all have times in our life where we need somebody mate,
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and so why not have the people that you trust
the most trained up, such as your vets and an
agronomous and stock agents to know how to get help
for you if you need it.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Are we finally in the rural industry in particular the
ald Star persona. I've talked about this actually quite recently
with cats and Wright. Are you finding cockies are a
lot more out there? As far as opening up regarding
mental health Wigi, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:11):
In certain genres, there is definitely more about it. The
younger generation seem to be we've done a lot more
work in that, and to be fair to the older generation,
it's a little bit of like physical health, mate. We
know a lot more about how the heart and the
arteries and all the organs work, but we also know
a lot more about how the brain works, and we
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can actually put labels on things and work within those
confines of actually diagnosis. So the fact that we can
actually do a lot more in that space these days
is there's no more just strawed out pill popping. There's
a lot of other avenues available to doctors and coaches
and stuff like that. So that's opening up the pathway
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to a lot more people doing things. But I still
believe one hundred percent that strong people make strong communities,
and strong commun unities make stronger people. So if we
can at grassroots level get back to the day where
we're communicating with each other and reaching out for help
when we need it and not just trying to do
it all on our own back, that really helps. And
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especially the way the transient nation of work is done.
You know, like there's a lot of people rotate true
jobs around New Zealand now rather than being in one
job for thirty years. So it's a matter of everybody
investing and those that are coming into the area and
also those that are coming into the inior areas investing
in their communities as well.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
So these events that are happening in about Closer tomorrow
and Tianel Wednesday, what are the details around them.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
Yeah, we'll check off at six thirty. Slade and I
will do a talk. We'll all start it off and
Slat will tell his story x Mary all Black had
a hell of a journey through mental health in his
own way, and then Rolly Andrew rolling from down there
and you're into the world. He is a great rugby
referee and he talks a lot about the financial pressures
(31:03):
of life and how to handle those and make good decisions,
and then I wrap it up with a couple of
workshops at.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
The end of it.
Speaker 7 (31:08):
We should be all done by around eight point thirty,
and we like to kick around afterwards because there's always
a lot of conversations to have too. So yeah, as
I said, six point thirty and start, and that's in
the baucus of the club and club and we'd really
like to see you down there.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
So what's a big takeaway from these events? Wig? Are
you getting farmers or tradees or whoever coming up to
you after these events and actually being a lot more
open about what their feelings are and the likes without
going or den in.
Speaker 7 (31:35):
Yeah, one hundred percent. We open up some pretty big
pathways for communication. And also the fact that we're offering
those training you know, even people from the Royal Support
Trusts regionally are saying, hey, these trainings will be really
good for us as well. But ye know, look, that's
one of the reasons we hang around afterwards. We really
do get a lot of conversations. We're able to facilitate
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a lot of help too. But you know, even we've
been into a few schools and universities and young farmers
clubs lately too, and those are where we get a
lot of people reaching out, you know, just to have
just an older heater and that can just talk to
them and say, look, you know, we can't help you. You
don't need to go through life by yourself. And you
know some of the young people, you know, we think
(32:19):
they're but soft and stuff like that. I can tell
you anecdotally some of the stories that some of these
young people have been through in their first twenty years
of life. And it's a lot more than what I
had to go through, believe me.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Just finally, you're good made up there, Donnie forty is
all about the yellow O next week or the gold
and no beating Kennery, but you'll be back in the
red and black, so presume.
Speaker 7 (32:41):
Ah, yeah, mate, I listen. I'm a north Wiland, the
true and through, and so it's a great way to
open up some controversial ye conversations. But yeah, forty and
nine were neighbors up to about six months ago, and
he puts another flag up every time something like that.
So yeah, I know you're related to him too, which
says a lot. So we'll watch with baited breaths, but
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it'll be a good game and hell, to be fair,
I'm wondering if the North Islanders actually have a decent
rugby team the way these guys are playing down here.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
It's one thing to ponder. Hey, good on your WIGGI
always appreciate your time, mate.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
Hey thanks Andy, go.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Craig wiggy Wigans lean on the gates. Talk to mate.
Those two events happening about close to anti Anew Tuesday
and Wednesday, respectively. You're listening to the Muster. Before we
wrap up, we'll talk a bit of rugby a bit
of NPC with Nick Buley next out of New Storgsy
be welcome back to the Muster on Hakanuid Now. If
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(34:05):
Ram Open Day happening Thursday October the thirtieth. As we
catch up with the news Dogs MBS Nick Bewley Nick,
good afternoon. Do you need a few rams to graze
the stadium of yours when it finishes up next week?
Speaker 5 (34:18):
Might do actually ending here? Good afternoon, tou. There's a
little bit of uncertainty around the future of our elongated
temporary stadium at Addington, whether it's going to return to
I don't know, a sort of recreational use for the community,
or whether it will just go to the highest bidder
and we'll see some more medium density housing shoot up
in that area of christ Church. But yeah, the time being,
(34:41):
while the decision make is swept around that after this
provincial final at the weekend between Caunterbe and Otamia, we
might take a couple of rams to keep the field
in good shape.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
The Polo Projects Stadium, How will it be remembered in
christ Church because we never forget, well we never forget
what Lancaster Park was like, but this has been a stadium.
I suppose it served its purpose in between Takaha.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
Yeah, I think it's going to have quite a confused legacy,
if you're like or a conflicting legacy, because let's face it,
without it, where would the Crusaders and where would Canterbury
Rugby have gone Rugby Park their training base. There has
been the odd game there, but it's far too small,
so they needed somewhere to go. They couldn't return to
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Lancaster Park Course, so it has served a really important
purpose Since the earthquakes in twenty eleven. However, I think
there's been increasing frustration, particularly given the delays to the
new stadium which will finally open in April next year,
and the match day experience that you do have in Addington.
(35:44):
Let's not forgetting it. It is sort of held together
by scaff and the like, and it rattles and it's
pretty tough going, particularly in winter. So yeah, I think
there won't be many people who will miss it, but
I think on the whole people will remember it as
serving a really important purpose because, as I say, without it,
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I don't know what it would mean for the Crusaders
and Cannabary probably have to go play at a bunch
of different clubs around the region just to have home games.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Canterbury versus Otago in the NPC Final it's a remake
of two thousand and one, where redo I should say,
both teams arguably and pretty good form. Well they're in
the final, so it goes about saying, but this match
could actually be defined as a classic. From my opinion,
I'm with you, yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
I was very fortunate to commentate the Cannabury Otago Ranfilly
Shield game about a month or so ago on gold Sport,
and that was an absolute barn burner, a targo of
course getting the job done. They came back late and
won that one by I think it was two points
and they might have been thirty eight thirty six, held
onto the Ranfilly Shield and have locked that away for
the summer. I think it's two teams who go about
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their style of rugby in slightly different ways. For Cannabury
it's all about a suffocating defense and dominance up in
the carry, the clean and the collision through their forward pack.
As we saw on the weekend Hawks they were you know,
they were there or thereabouts in the first half, but
just completely blind away in the second. Whereas Otago I
(37:19):
think almost everyone's second team by the sounds of things
around the office and grossier dandy. The way they're going
about the style of rugby very entertaining product. They're willing
to shift the ball attack from deep within their own half.
They've got this incredibly exciting young half back that everyone's
talking about, Dylan Pledger and the open side flanker to
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Lucas Casey I think is a serious challenge, and then
molded with some real experienced players like your Jonah Nerekis
and Sam Gilbert. So I think it sets up really nicely.
Is obviously that you know the regional history and too
old foes Cannabury are targeting, and a lot of familiarity
too between the two teams. You think James Lynch's who's
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part of the Canterbury coaching staff. He captain Otaga, played
almost his entire professional career down in Dunedin. And then
you got first year Otigo head coach Mark Brown who's
based up here in christ Church and was formerly a
Cannabury MVC co coach with Reuben Thorn. So there's a
lot on the line. It all shapes really nicely for
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the Saturday I just hope there's a bumper crowded. Last
time I checked this morning, six thousand tickets already pre sold,
which would I reckon exceed the crowd that was there
on Saturday night for that semi final. So if we
can get north of ten thousand. That's got to be
the hope they can fit about fifteen thousand in there.
It would be great to see that sold outside pop
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up before Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Now you gave me the tip. Earlier on of the season,
nick around, Dylan played Duram, watching him explode onto the
scene the way that he has. But why has he
missed out on selection for the av for the New
Zealand A side.
Speaker 7 (38:58):
Yeah it's a.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
Good question, isn't it Because for mine, he already, even
though he hasn't played Super rugby, would have to be
one of the top six half backs in the country.
It's an interesting balancing act. This All Blacks fifteen, This
New Zealand B side, if you like, given its coach
by Jamie Joseph, who will also be Dylan Pledge's Super
rugby coach for the Highlanders in season twenty twenty six.
(39:21):
So the official line was that Dylan Pledger is still
very young in his rugby journey. The preference for the
Jamie Joseph and the preference for all the way up
for the All Blacks coaches is that Dylan Pledge has
a full Super Agby preseason under his belt back home
and is ready to fire from the word go in
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Super rugby next year. I kind of understand it, but
sometimes you know, if we cast our minds all the
way back to a young Richie McCoy who didn't play
Super rugby before he played for the All Blacks, just
came straight off an MPC campaign, sometimes you just got
to look at talent and say, if you're old enough,
you're good enough. And for me at least I would
have loved to see him board the plane next week
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on that All Blacks fifteen torp Alas. We're going to
see him in this MPC final on Saturday, and we're
going to hear his name for a long time to come.
I don't want to put too much pressure on the
young man, but for me anyway, Andy, we're two years
out from a World Cup. We've got a fantastic half
back already in the All Blacks and Cameron royguard. But
it would not shock me, Dylan pledge you by that
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point be twenty two years old for that World Cup
in Australia. If he's in the mix already such as
his talent and the rise already from the New Zealand
under twenty ranks to completely dominating MPC level. I can
see him just shooting the lights out in super rugby
and going all the way to being a very good
All Black.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Just finally, the Black Caps against Englyn playing short form
at the moment before the fifty over variety kicks off
sooner than later. But unfortunately the weather gods aren't playing
ball as they aren't around the country in a lot
of instances at the moment. And I don't know, scheduling
cracket for New Zealand and October seems a bit bizarre.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
Yeah, their hands are tight, are a little bit, aren't
they Andy where you know that's such as the dominance
and proliferation of franchise T twenty cricket around the country,
around the world, I should say, you know they're struggling
to sort of fit in around those schedules in terms
of getting marquee nations like Australia and England. But you're
absolutely right. Yeah, it's a real risk and reward dance
(41:25):
to schedule any cricket in October, such as the volatility
of the weather. We've found that here in christ Church
Saturday Night's game of course being abandoned O run chase
there for the Black Cats tonight. The forecast I am
pleased to say it looks slightly bitter. There is the
odd chance of a shower, but we should get in
all of or if not, just a couple of minor
(41:45):
disruptions for the second T twenty. But yeah, you would
hope down the line we can get back to it
genuinely being a summer of cricket.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Nicky, we can hear your commentaries on Gold Sport for
the final time. You're probably taking the red le gun
with you on Saturday, taking that seat home with you.
You deserve and mate all the best for the call.
Speaker 5 (42:03):
Thank Eddie. You have been very lucky this year with
a Super Rugby Final with the Crusaders and now an
NBC final here and cross Yitch as well. Cannot wait.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
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Speaker 1 (42:25):
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So well done, guys. That's us for the afternoon. I'm
andy you it we hear about this alliance. Result tomorrow
will be all over it. Enjoy the afternoon, stay wrapped up,
(42:47):
See you tomorrow, my hem.
I don't want to know. Good afternoon, and welcome to
the muster on Hakanui. I'm ending myoy here until two
o'clock thanks to Peterson X, thanks for your company. Welcome
to Monday afternoon. Although it is a tarar damp down
here in g town, if we're perfectly honest, we'll talk
away the shortly. Firstly, congratulations in North Otago and mckennerby
doing the damage in the Heartland competition and a Targo
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beating bath plenty and Kennary getting the chocolates over hawks
Fa so once again in All South Island final next weekend,
so Rugby coming to its conclusion before the Aubecks head
away overseas. The music today Maroon five.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
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Speaker 1 (00:52):
The proof is in the Progeny Tiffron dot co dot NZ.
And unfortunately the forecast is a continuation of what we
have this afternoon, so I might pay just to keep
an eye out on river levels and the likes as
is where the continues. This afternoon brings light rain with
breezing or westerlies and twelve Tuesday showers of breezing or
westerly six and ten and Wednesday cloudy with breezing nor
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Westleys nine and fifteen. Thursdays very similar rain with breezing
nor westerlyes three and fourteen and on Friday change it up.
Shall we afternoon showers a breezing or westerlies goodness me
six and twelve so temper just to hand. Clinton ten
point nine, Harriet nine point one, Northern South and ten
Riveton eleven point five now ten point six, Tidorouh Woodlands
(01:33):
and Winton all nine point eight. Jamie King of Leke
Horoco starts us off for a Monday afternoon, followed up
by Joseph Mooney, MP for Southland, talking about aggraturism announcements
sound here in the South. Joseph was there earlier this
morning and taos is about all these co initiatives are
happening down here. Regarding it. Ben Dooley talking to the
Alliance group and just happenings on farm as he tries
(01:53):
to get a bit of tractor work done. Dar us
say it. Craig Wiggy Wiggins lean on a gate, talk
to him mate. A couple of events happening down here
this week. The Wiggy encourages encourages you to get along too,
and you talk to zb's Nick Bewley talks some sport
to wrap up the show. But straight off into it,
we talked to Jamie King. This is the Muster until
two o'clock thanks to Peter's genetics. So Jamie King fans
(02:19):
are like Herroko and joins us this afternoon in the
Sergeant Dan Farming ground up. Thanks for Sergeant Dan stock
foods here and go Jamie. Good afternoon, dear, I ask
what is the weather doing?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Now? I'll just listen that interest song Andy and I've
been a bit of love mate, But the weather's going
to be start so you can get some lost choices,
that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Well you said before the weather can get its head
from out of its proverbial and actually start playing ball
for a change.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, wow, mate, I think we're all about two thirds
away through springing and that I think we've still got winter. Yeah,
I've got to extend the daylight airs, but that's about
all theirs at the moment, pretty voluntil morning and night.
And I've got the river bank to bank and everything
needs flippers and snorkels again, which is challenging, but that's
all right, you sort of it's been the last six
(03:07):
weeks getting excited to get something done off the Becka
winter and just mother and Max is not really playing
the game.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
So we're about say you as far as the October
workload at the moment, I mean, have you even got tailing?
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Nah?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
No, heavan he moved to the tailing peen mate. There's
a few lambs that need tail they get in there.
Started playing a bit of velvet off the other day
and it's it's going to be a challenge all season
with selling us and it's well, it's just going through
the motions really trying to get some cereal and I'm
not lucky enough to even look at starting that yet.
(03:40):
And yeah, so you get some calves, the better the
marked and what you say to the tailor in the way,
but you sort of start chomping at the bit, but
you just can't do much. Plenty of workshop jobs.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
You just got to keep on keeping on us.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, oh love, we were here this toim last year too,
weren't we. Oh, we've had a few more sun choine
airs I suppose this spring, so probably a little bit
of shead and grass growth that. Yeah, it just doesn't
make getting anything else done any easier.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
What would you say your own fall has been so
far for the previous six weeks I think.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Twenty eighth August Mate, well up to about a week ago.
We're just show a four hundred mil I think, so
it would be about four eighty now, because I mean
we had a twenty five million here on whenever that
was Friday night. Said that, yeah, Friday night and then
yeah do you say we've had another two inches since then? Again,
so m she's a battle, but that's all right. It's
(04:38):
fickle and turn. A couple of cobbers up in North
Canterbury and they just had a guts full of northeasters.
Pivots are going and they're still getting frosts and it's
getting blown around. So there's one thing for sure, Andy,
there's no silver bullets in agriculture. So you just gotta
you think your beds, you paste everything around and have
a catch up with some people just to because everyone's
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got their different different fights.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, we're talking to Craig Wiggy Wiggans later on in
the yell. A great point you bring out there, Jamie,
just about collaborating, connecting with your mates having a yarn,
having a shan, chewing the fact, go around, have a stubby,
have a coffee, do whatever, and just keep in touch
with people.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Right, Yeah, I had a sentory. Just go for a drive, mate,
you know, you know we're just different head of what
it is over your way and what he is. Maybe
not today, but.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
It's always good.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
That's yeah. We're creatures of socialness, the human beings that
paced to pace to keep talking because, like you say,
you think it's been in your camp, but it's always
someone else has always got other things going on. It's
can be bad everywhere. So you just got to just
keep talking and they can't run for Randy, and then
little Sudd'll be out and we'll won't even know what
we're thinking about.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
How does your lamb drop? See that looks pretty good?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Some good lambs getting around.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Yeah, for the most part, pretty good.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Your condition is probably a little bit better than what
we've sort of anticipated. I'm cheating them in a condition
off some cows at the moment, just they haven't quite
got the covers head of them as well they need.
And the happies stock class to be fear of the horns.
They sort of spread out now and it's living the dream.
But yeah, that lamb drop looks pretty good. I might
(06:12):
probably be. I don't think it'll be the record breaker,
but it won't be the worse than last year, sir, Yeah, it'll.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Be what it'll be now the Alliance group. It sounds
as though we find out tomorrow morning what happens regarding
this Dawn Meats announcement. What's your get feeling on this, Jamie,
the people you speak to, what are you thinking is
going to change tomorrow?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Well, I see they've got they've passed the C four
percent three sholder writer turn out from all accounts. So
we'll wait and see. I know I've meant gat thing.
I think it will go. Yes, interesting enough, I see
the all Meats have come out with a bit more money,
which is they obviously want it pretty badly, but for
(06:53):
right or wrong, not long ter. I mean, you're you know,
I don't know if it's a good thing for the
New Zealand meat sector. A lot of sure money and
so they can squash us through a little fellow on
the global table as it is that short term. I
suppose it needs to happen at the end of the day, mate,
when the banks want their money. The banks want their money.
It's the one that's guaranteed when you take loans out
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is they want to back some part of it. So,
like you say, just gone back ten years ago, we've
put a full sighted of can I believe some board
directors would have been quite nice. We possibly wouldn't have
been in this situation, but can't look back any so
we'll just box on and see what happens.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I suppose we've talked about this before, Jamie having a
collaboration of Silverfarin Farms and a Lionce group for example.
Are changes to the red meat industry in New Zealand
about people talking about this being the catalyst for change.
This should have happened back in twenty fifteen, a lot
of people's opinions to form a super cooperative for the
red meat sector. Do you think anything changes tomorrow regardless
(07:52):
of what way the vote goes.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Ah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Mate, Yeah, so would be good. You need competition to Andy, Yeah,
from private guys, because you've from the private guys. I
normally got a bit more on the line than some
drinkers that we will board members that you just vote
on there. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know, mate,
(08:16):
Crystal Ball grades and there's no new norm there. Just yeah,
there's what it is, declining red meat numbers. It might
be a great thing. I don't know. The world needs protein,
but we send to have done a terrific job of
excluding ourselves from what's going on the world stage in
this country since well arguably you know, pre COVID days.
(08:36):
We'll we're in the twenty twenty mark. So we'll don't
We'll wait and see, We'll wait and see. I think
it's all unknown ground. But there's other meat companies out there,
and their books aren't trading that good either. You know,
we're still probably over capitalized ably. But yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
You just sound frustrated at the lack of leadership in
the industry.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I've been time, mate. I mean, yeah, it's you know,
there's another aspect of it, the velvet things interesting one
at the moment. You know, we got a huge a
lot of that float around and you know, Toning one
market and it's all coming back and we're getting told
what we need to do here in New Zealand and
grading and grown and what have you. And I said, well,
how about you guys get off your backsides and go
and sell it into another market. Do something else, well,
(09:20):
get a bit of entrepreneurs about it. What else can
we do with it? You know, like just suffers from
New Zealand. Guys, got this tall poppy syndrome. You know,
it's a real sit in the corner and pick yourselves
in the back and say how good you are? But
I mean that only flies for so long. And it's
twenty twenty five and ninety ninety five anymore, so people
just start thinking outside the box a wee bit more
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of it.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Good only Jamie. We'll catch up in due course and
interesting to see how tomorrow wines.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Ope, hey, but don't appreciate that any Good on.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
You men, Jamie King of Lake Heroko and the Sergeant
Dan Farming ground up. Thanks for Sergeant Dan stock foods
here and go. Joseph Mooney in Peter south and we
speak next is the muster?
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Beautiful are you?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Joseph Mooney is MP for Southland and joined us this
afternoon on the muster. Good afternoon, Joseph, and how are you? Yeah?
Pretty good. It's a damp start to the week around
the province. By the sounds of it. Agritourism is a
big thing, especially down here in the South these days.
You're at Tom O'Brien, a very well known voice head
and muster listeners. Regarding agritourism, there was an announcement, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
There was had the launch of the Otago South and
Egraturism Network and Tom's well shed this morning, which is
which is awesome. Actually, you're just raising the profile, raising
the ability to be able to connect across the aggre
Tourism network and Otago and Southland and yeah, two parts
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of the economy that are hugely important to our region
and nationally actually, you know, agricultural and tourism and just
a really cool option. You need to further highlight the
awesome stuff is happening in that space and maybe you know,
showcase that there's an opportunity for other folks who might
be interested.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
So we're seeing a lot of new ventures get off
the ground regarding egratourism in the South. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Look, I'm aware of someone that are bubbling away that
people plan to kick them off. And then there's other
well established ones and I mean, you know, Time's got
you a very good one. Welcome go on his station
and it should infect My wife booked us a Knight
and Cavin up on the on the tops there a
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two years ago to celebrate our one of our winning anniversaries,
and so we hiked in and stayed the night. You know,
you got the hot tip out under the stars, incredible
views and just awesome of the country.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
We're hearing all about this situation with the Lions regarding Dawn.
What's your take on it all?
Speaker 6 (12:04):
Well, yeah, I sort of it's up to the voters,
that is, decide which direction they want to go, and
then we'll see what happens if they decide to go
with door mates, you know, and as they decided they
want to do something else, then we'll be closely looking
at that. So I'm watching it very closely as the
sort of the probably extentive I when I say about that,
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until they've made their decision. You know, there's been talking
about rationalization for the years and hasn't really happened. And look,
it's I mean, now now's a probably a good opportunity
to take a look at the fundamentals of it. That's
you know, going very very strongly now after a few
really challenging years, and it's like an awesome sector and
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I think it's going to be increasing demand globally. There
was a chance for us to take a look at
home and there's been built over, you know, generations in fact.
And yeah, so look like I'm watching with great interest
what the outcome of the vote will be tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
One of the scenarios I suppose being this doesn't get
accepted tomorrow then is certainly going to be an intriguing
time for the red meat sector.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Right.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
Yeah, Look, I'm not going to say too much at
the stage, but what I will say that, cleaving very
close on.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
It, a mega strike is happening on Thursday all around
the country. Teachers, doctors amongst others are going on strike
and a messive one of that as well. But what
Palestine has been brought onto the agenda? What's this all about?
Speaker 6 (13:29):
Yeah, and that's that's just concerning them, and it just
makes it look like that's sort of student activists running
running the unions. Frankly, I mean the fact that they'd
make Palestine the number one topic discussed with the New
Zealand Education Minister. The sensus yes, that they're just playing
politics as opposed to focusing on what's best for New
Zealand kids and know how the government and teachers can
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work together to make sure, you know, we deliver the
best education possible throughout because they have the best future possible.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
So it's really just important from the unions.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Strantly, there's a lot of frustrated pearance as well, given
us a Thursday having to reorganize their days for strike action.
And I wouldn't say every primary school in the Gore
regions involved with it, but there seems to be more
than not.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
Yeah, well it's it's up to union members decide. I
guess what how they how they respond to it. But
it's we're all working hard with the resource we've got
available to the best outcome for all news Yealanders. And
and you know, our kids are something that this government
has taken incredibly seriously. We've we've delivered a lot for students,
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for parents and for teachers. In fact, uh one of
one of Ericasanpa's and Minister Vacation's policies was turned out
a while ago, hours to pay the teacher registration fees
for example. You know, you know acknowledging that it's it's
not an easy time for anyone, you know, with you
it's going to sue markets, that's not cheap. But look,
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we're everything we can to support our teachers, you know,
who have fire large and doing a great job in
delivering on a big change program which is making you know,
significantly measurable improvements for kids. And that's ultimately I think
what all of us should be focused on. And I
think all of us, probably our folks are really fit
the mentals. How can we make sure our kids get
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the best education possible in New Zealand so they can
have the best future possible.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
So what's on the agenda for this week, Joseph.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Well, I'm trucking to God at the mom We're going
to be having a meeting with folks from different councils
across the region. That's myself, Miles Ennison and Gary Kellerhoff.
Now see, have invited folks to come and hear from
this Australian company who got what is what they called
nano Bubbler technology which increases the auction content of a
(15:48):
water molecule about seventy percent net for super increases a
bit to you know, proceeds other things in the water
of the biolitical mechanisms and it's seems to quit quite promising.
You got a briefing on it a few months ago,
and yeah, able to able to prost things things a
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hell a lot faster and potentially a lot cheaper. So
I thought it was just worth our councils having a
look at it. So we're doing that stuff known and
then from there I've got to drive to Donners to
get up to Wellington and then all we can they
can part them for the rest of the week.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
So I'll ask you again, like I asked Ge last week,
you're wearing your blue and gold jersey this week.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
Up there, made I haven't found time to go and
keep myself.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Surely you have a Highlanders jersey in your clothes, yeh,
If you've.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Got you got got one I can borrow. While I'm
coming to go, I'll grab it off you.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Well, I've got a marine Highlanders top and nothing blue
and gold unfortunately, but I'm sure you'll be able to
be accommodated somewhere along the line.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
Right, Yeah, maybe maybe when I'm well. Actually I'll just
be going straight to the airport and done us, so
probably won't catch you know, outside of the probably won't
get a take one up. There's a little bit of
a tight schedule.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
John you good on your Joseph Mooney. We understand you
are very busy. We always appreciate your time on the muster.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
I got there.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
They appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Joseph Mooney, MP for Southland. If anybody is at to
meet an airport, some safe today. And what's the blue
and gold jersey for Joseph Mooney to We're up in parliament.
Ben Dooley's up next. This is the muster.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
The musters on the farm brought to you by Southland
District Council working together for a better Southland.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Ben Dowey Farms just out of Windham, Sheep, beef and
YouTube farmer deals. Good afternoon, Good Andy. Here's a gown,
not bad, but as a look outside, it's just a
tad wet. I'd imagine the situations to say that your place.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
She's pretty miserable ear there at the moment and to
be fear of the forecast for the next nine or
ten days does not look much better, but it was
worse for some of them. But we're reasonably I wouldn't
say we're up to date, but we're reasonably. Yeah, we've
got a fear of stuff done the last few weeks,
so weather's going to do what it's gonna do. Well,
it's gonna work with it. But yeah, I think we're
sort of sitting.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Okay, you managed to get the tailing done last week?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Yep. Yeah, it was a bit earlier than I'd like
to go, especially if there's two disc lemming a bit
late lot they always do. But in hindsight, on Bloody Gred,
we got it done because it was a nice day.
We've got one we share. Right at the end of it,
Sarah managed to say to the contract that is just
before lunchtill we're just before twelve, Oh that rain stayed
away for the day, hasn't it. And we all just
looked at her and went, what did you say? And
sure enough the last pen we got rain, but that
(18:36):
was it. So yeah, got that job done. All done
by sort of three thirty, and numbers are looking reasonable.
We're up on last year. We got absolutely emmered last year.
Everyone got a bit of a hiding this year. But yeah,
at least we're up a wee bit. We should have
another three or four hundred more lambs to kill, so yeah,
positives there and yeah, now.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
It's a hot topic at the moment, being we find
out tomorrow morning. This a lot proposal regarding Dawn meets
Jamie McKay on the Country previously speaking to Pete Turner
and Mosbourne, are you cautiously optimistic about what way this
is going to go?
Speaker 4 (19:09):
I don't even know if I'm cautiously optimistic. Obviously I
want the deal to go through. I think it's going
to be pretty close. One thing we've heard, I think
that that here was that Riley says there's eighty four
or eighty four percent of shares have already voted, So
at least we've had a good turnout that by as
well in favor of given that fifty percent line, that
fifty percent marker across. But yeah, it's just whether we
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get that seventy five percent in favor of. I'd like
to think we will, but yeah, there certainly won't. We
won't be making any calls. I wouldn't be making any
placing any bets on it until we actually know tomorrow.
It's yet too close for comfort for me.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
So the farmer, as you speak to, what are their
thoughts around it? I mean it's very varied. I've heard
that as well. What are you hearing?
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Yeah, I'm the same, very varied. Once again, don't really
know of anyone who's changed their minds since the whole started.
People are either for it or against it. Yeah, it
sounds to me a little bit like the bigger farmers
are against it. But then by the sounds of it,
the third party guys as a general rule, tend to
be in favor of it, and some of them we've
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got some pretty big shareholdings too. So yeah, people are
either And the people that I speak to that are
against it aren't in favor of the deal of the
Big five either. They're not in favor of pouring a
whole lot of money, and they send to talk about
wanting to see it sold up. Just just go to
other companies and see what happens there, which I mean,
there's potentially some benefits there. But I will say if
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that happens, my personal viewers that launs will close, an
alliance won't get any money out of it when it closes.
I don't think I could be wrong there. But if
we lose that, I mean, what is it the largest
sheep processing plant in the Southern Hemisphere or in the world.
Possibly even we need to reduce capacity within our industry,
but I don't think closing the biggest one is the
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right place to start, so wee a bit scared about that.
But yeah, we'll just see what happens.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
It'll be interacing what does unfold. But you can't tell me.
There has been countered talks going on behind the scenes
if it is a no vote as well regarding Alliance,
and perhaps I don't know, somebody the government and one
way shape or Formers perhaps is what the next option
would be, because that would be pretty blase on their behalf.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Well, we did here Onceton the other day talking about
how he's danced against it and that maybe the company
should have come to the government. I don't personally believe
the government has any space any place in these negotiations.
And I'm not sure that I'm a fan of the
idea of corporate bailouts too. As much as it would
short term work in their favor this time, it would
open the floodgates for all sorts of things to happen.
If we look back to the Hubard finance thing, I
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was pretty against that being backed by the government. Yeah,
it's the way New Zealand works. It's not really a
place we should be going but I'm sure there's conversations
with other processes as well. I'm sure, like if if
Alliance closes, obviously the other some of the other processes
are going to be looking to snap up those plants
because they're going to have an influx of people looking
to kill lambs. The lambs have got to be killed somewhere,
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haven't they end cattle? So something will definitely happen. It's
just what shape that takes we don't know. But yes,
I'm sure conversations are being had behind closed doors.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
But regardless what happens tomorrow. Over capacity as a concern, being.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
One hundred percent agree, yeah, we definitely have too much capacity.
But I guess from my point of view, like just
listening to the previous generation talk about the way things
have been in the past, will we need to address
that over capacity? Like I say, I'm not sure shutting
the largest sheeap meat processing plant in the Southern Hemisphere
is a great place to start. We probably need to
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be looking at closing down some smaller plants fir ust.
But then the problem you run into there is those
smaller plants are running very profitably at the moment. Then
I do wonder two how much of their over capacity
does get sold to third party traders and gets put
through Lawnville. Anyway, we know a bit of that happens.
And if we lose Lawnville, I like I say, I
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just get scared. You don't just want to go all
in and say right, let square says down to absolute
minimum capacity required, because then we're going to be having
our allocated space every year. You won't be able to
change it. You'll have to kill when you've got space,
as opposed to having that flexibility to shift your kill
according to grass growth. And well, I understand that costs
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the industry a lot of money. It also makes it
a lot of money, and we need to find a
happy medium in between there not go from one polar
extreme to the other.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
It's interesting though, speaking at individuals over the weekend who
kill third party and you know, maybebout three thousand lambs
or something like that, there's their lamb kill for the season.
But you totally get it. You can do it if
you're getting above seed or of course you've got to do.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
That, oh one hundred percent. I've got nothing against the
third party guys.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
The nature of the game, right, The argument.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Is that of Lawnville disappears, then a lot of the
third party guys will have very little area to go.
But by all means, we always used to get quite
upset about the third party thing, and I didn't realize
that they were all shared up, and a few years
ago when I found out they were shared up, it's like, well,
if they're shared up and they're supplying, you can't really
be against that. They've got their money and the thing,
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they're entitled to their space and they're working out, they're working.
They're just they're just using the systems their advantage. So
absolutely nothing against those courses.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Just finally, your YouTube, your YouTube channel, Deep South Sheep
and Beef. Anything been happening there lately? You're just too busy?
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Yeah, No, I've got three or four videos yet since
I was talking to you last time. One get a
bit of grass and uh might have been shedding out,
I think, and something else. And there's another one. It'll
just be a really instrumental one on tailing. It's pretty
hard to do much recording when you're tailing.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
So when you say instrumental, what are you playing the
guitar in the backery on what's ago?
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Instrumental? Might not be the best read to use this.
It'll just be a whole lot of clips put together.
There'll be no talking or anything in it. It'll just
be a bit of noise from the lambs and a
bit of music over the top and I don't know,
four or five minutes long maybe and just yeah, as
opposed to a usual type of videos, it'll just be
I don't even know what the right word is, but
a cinematic experience, you might.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Say cinematic experience. It here from Ben Dooley. First, always
appreciate your time. Will you wait tomorrow? Not good on you, Andy,
Ben Dooley. Sheep farming and bee farming for that matter.
Down there whindom you're listening to the Muster before the
end of the hour, and yous talk Zeb's Nick Bewley.
But up next Craig Wiggy Wiggins. Welcome back to the Muster.
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Craig Wiggy Wiggins, lean on a gate. Talk to him, mate.
We've spoken to Wiggy in the past about the work
he's doing there around rural mental health, and we catch
up this afternoon. A couple of events on the horizon
down here in the Deep South. Wiggy house things.
Speaker 7 (25:38):
Yeah, it's going to be great to be back in
your area. Andy. To be fair, I'm looking forward to
to being down there in the next few days with
Clump next. So yeah, that's great.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
They told me.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
The weather's not been there flesh down.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
It's been interesting. It's been challenging for a lot of
people we had last year. It hasn't been as wet,
but only in some places only marginally dry, a wiggy.
I don't know. I think it's just spring being spring,
but it's just frustration.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
Yeah, no, definitely made it has been but on and
often Mid Canterbury as well. It's actually we've had huge
nor Westers up here and everyone in the second them already,
so a long way to go in that space. But
never mind. Let's talk about what's going on down your way.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Absolutely now you're coming down Southworth Lee Nonygate. Talk to
a mate I think called Club Connect as well. A
couple of cool things going on.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
Yeah, definitely so. Slade McFarlane, myself and Andy Rowland when available,
we have from Foresight Bar have been traveling around the country.
We've been everywhere from Gisbone to down to Greymouth and
the Cargo of course, and up to Auckland and we're
back in that area of yours now because we really
believe that you know that it's important work we're doing.
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And Club Connectors were Club's New Zealand, the Workingmen's Clubs
are Arisas, et cetera. They've got behind us and said, hey,
we we're a bit of a best deal of connection
in rural New Zealand. Would you like to come do
some talks around the country and we can tell everybody
what you've not available and then from there we can
find those people that want to be trained in the
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area to be those connectors of people that reach out
and can help people when they are in need, or
that people can go to when a need and they
can facilitate some help. So it's a pretty big project
and we're pretty proud of it. It's been going really
well around the country. And now that we've got a
understanding or a partnership with Mates in Construction to provide
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training services throughout rural New Zealand for our really especially
our rural service industries, but big farms and corporates as well. Yeah,
it's going well.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
You talk about mental health issues in the rural sector,
what about what's the tradees, what's it like there.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
So if you actually have a look at construction, for example,
the construction industry is probably number one for suicides in
New Zealand, and rural New Zealand is right next to it.
The primary industry is right next to it, not far behind.
So there is a lot of a lot of snagair,
as I've said, between in the two organizations. And you know,
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we actually know antecdotically that if you have a training
program in place, if you're a big business and you
actually have a mental health program such as what we're
talking about with the lean on the Gate program, you
can actually reduce a number of people thinking about suicide
at any one time by half, just by having that
approach or putting your arm around somebody and saying that
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we're here for you. You're a big part of our organization
and we we value your health and well being, especially
mental health, and we have pathways for you to take
if things aren't trucking too well, either in the business
or outside of the business. You know, it's a it's
a great realistic approach, you know, and we all we
all have times in our life where we need somebody mate,
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and so why not have the people that you trust
the most trained up, such as your vets and an
agronomous and stock agents to know how to get help
for you if you need it.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Are we finally in the rural industry in particular the
ald Star persona. I've talked about this actually quite recently
with cats and Wright. Are you finding cockies are a
lot more out there? As far as opening up regarding
mental health Wigi, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:11):
In certain genres, there is definitely more about it. The
younger generation seem to be we've done a lot more
work in that, and to be fair to the older generation,
it's a little bit of like physical health, mate. We
know a lot more about how the heart and the
arteries and all the organs work, but we also know
a lot more about how the brain works, and we
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can actually put labels on things and work within those
confines of actually diagnosis. So the fact that we can
actually do a lot more in that space these days
is there's no more just strawed out pill popping. There's
a lot of other avenues available to doctors and coaches
and stuff like that. So that's opening up the pathway
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to a lot more people doing things. But I still
believe one hundred percent that strong people make strong communities,
and strong commun unities make stronger people. So if we
can at grassroots level get back to the day where
we're communicating with each other and reaching out for help
when we need it and not just trying to do
it all on our own back, that really helps. And
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especially the way the transient nation of work is done.
You know, like there's a lot of people rotate true
jobs around New Zealand now rather than being in one
job for thirty years. So it's a matter of everybody
investing and those that are coming into the area and
also those that are coming into the inior areas investing
in their communities as well.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
So these events that are happening in about Closer tomorrow
and Tianel Wednesday, what are the details around them.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
Yeah, we'll check off at six thirty. Slade and I
will do a talk. We'll all start it off and
Slat will tell his story x Mary all Black had
a hell of a journey through mental health in his
own way, and then Rolly Andrew rolling from down there
and you're into the world. He is a great rugby
referee and he talks a lot about the financial pressures
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of life and how to handle those and make good decisions,
and then I wrap it up with a couple of
workshops at.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
The end of it.
Speaker 7 (31:08):
We should be all done by around eight point thirty,
and we like to kick around afterwards because there's always
a lot of conversations to have too. So yeah, as
I said, six point thirty and start, and that's in
the baucus of the club and club and we'd really
like to see you down there.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
So what's a big takeaway from these events? Wig? Are
you getting farmers or tradees or whoever coming up to
you after these events and actually being a lot more
open about what their feelings are and the likes without
going or den in.
Speaker 7 (31:35):
Yeah, one hundred percent. We open up some pretty big
pathways for communication. And also the fact that we're offering
those training you know, even people from the Royal Support
Trusts regionally are saying, hey, these trainings will be really
good for us as well. But ye know, look, that's
one of the reasons we hang around afterwards. We really
do get a lot of conversations. We're able to facilitate
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a lot of help too. But you know, even we've
been into a few schools and universities and young farmers
clubs lately too, and those are where we get a
lot of people reaching out, you know, just to have
just an older heater and that can just talk to
them and say, look, you know, we can't help you. You
don't need to go through life by yourself. And you
know some of the young people, you know, we think
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they're but soft and stuff like that. I can tell
you anecdotally some of the stories that some of these
young people have been through in their first twenty years
of life. And it's a lot more than what I
had to go through, believe me.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Just finally, you're good made up there, Donnie forty is
all about the yellow O next week or the gold
and no beating Kennery, but you'll be back in the
red and black, so presume.
Speaker 7 (32:41):
Ah, yeah, mate, I listen. I'm a north Wiland, the
true and through, and so it's a great way to
open up some controversial ye conversations. But yeah, forty and
nine were neighbors up to about six months ago, and
he puts another flag up every time something like that.
So yeah, I know you're related to him too, which
says a lot. So we'll watch with baited breaths, but
(33:03):
it'll be a good game and hell, to be fair,
I'm wondering if the North Islanders actually have a decent
rugby team the way these guys are playing down here.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
It's one thing to ponder. Hey, good on your WIGGI
always appreciate your time, mate.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
Hey thanks Andy, go.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Craig wiggy Wigans lean on the gates. Talk to mate.
Those two events happening about close to anti Anew Tuesday
and Wednesday, respectively. You're listening to the Muster. Before we
wrap up, we'll talk a bit of rugby a bit
of NPC with Nick Buley next out of New Storgsy
be welcome back to the Muster on Hakanuid Now. If
(33:43):
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Ram Open Day happening Thursday October the thirtieth. As we
catch up with the news Dogs MBS Nick Bewley Nick,
good afternoon. Do you need a few rams to graze
the stadium of yours when it finishes up next week?
Speaker 5 (34:18):
Might do actually ending here? Good afternoon, tou. There's a
little bit of uncertainty around the future of our elongated
temporary stadium at Addington, whether it's going to return to
I don't know, a sort of recreational use for the community,
or whether it will just go to the highest bidder
and we'll see some more medium density housing shoot up
in that area of christ Church. But yeah, the time being,
(34:41):
while the decision make is swept around that after this
provincial final at the weekend between Caunterbe and Otamia, we
might take a couple of rams to keep the field
in good shape.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
The Polo Projects Stadium, How will it be remembered in
christ Church because we never forget, well we never forget
what Lancaster Park was like, but this has been a stadium.
I suppose it served its purpose in between Takaha.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
Yeah, I think it's going to have quite a confused legacy,
if you're like or a conflicting legacy, because let's face it,
without it, where would the Crusaders and where would Canterbury
Rugby have gone Rugby Park their training base. There has
been the odd game there, but it's far too small,
so they needed somewhere to go. They couldn't return to
(35:24):
Lancaster Park Course, so it has served a really important
purpose Since the earthquakes in twenty eleven. However, I think
there's been increasing frustration, particularly given the delays to the
new stadium which will finally open in April next year,
and the match day experience that you do have in Addington.
(35:44):
Let's not forgetting it. It is sort of held together
by scaff and the like, and it rattles and it's
pretty tough going, particularly in winter. So yeah, I think
there won't be many people who will miss it, but
I think on the whole people will remember it as
serving a really important purpose because, as I say, without it,
(36:07):
I don't know what it would mean for the Crusaders
and Cannabary probably have to go play at a bunch
of different clubs around the region just to have home games.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Canterbury versus Otago in the NPC Final it's a remake
of two thousand and one, where redo I should say,
both teams arguably and pretty good form. Well they're in
the final, so it goes about saying, but this match
could actually be defined as a classic. From my opinion,
I'm with you, yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
I was very fortunate to commentate the Cannabury Otago Ranfilly
Shield game about a month or so ago on gold Sport,
and that was an absolute barn burner, a targo of
course getting the job done. They came back late and
won that one by I think it was two points
and they might have been thirty eight thirty six, held
onto the Ranfilly Shield and have locked that away for
the summer. I think it's two teams who go about
(36:55):
their style of rugby in slightly different ways. For Cannabury
it's all about a suffocating defense and dominance up in
the carry, the clean and the collision through their forward pack.
As we saw on the weekend Hawks they were you know,
they were there or thereabouts in the first half, but
just completely blind away in the second. Whereas Otago I
(37:19):
think almost everyone's second team by the sounds of things
around the office and grossier dandy. The way they're going
about the style of rugby very entertaining product. They're willing
to shift the ball attack from deep within their own half.
They've got this incredibly exciting young half back that everyone's
talking about, Dylan Pledger and the open side flanker to
(37:39):
Lucas Casey I think is a serious challenge, and then
molded with some real experienced players like your Jonah Nerekis
and Sam Gilbert. So I think it sets up really nicely.
Is obviously that you know the regional history and too
old foes Cannabury are targeting, and a lot of familiarity
too between the two teams. You think James Lynch's who's
(38:02):
part of the Canterbury coaching staff. He captain Otaga, played
almost his entire professional career down in Dunedin. And then
you got first year Otigo head coach Mark Brown who's
based up here in christ Church and was formerly a
Cannabury MVC co coach with Reuben Thorn. So there's a
lot on the line. It all shapes really nicely for
(38:24):
the Saturday I just hope there's a bumper crowded. Last
time I checked this morning, six thousand tickets already pre sold,
which would I reckon exceed the crowd that was there
on Saturday night for that semi final. So if we
can get north of ten thousand. That's got to be
the hope they can fit about fifteen thousand in there.
It would be great to see that sold outside pop
(38:44):
up before Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Now you gave me the tip. Earlier on of the season,
nick around, Dylan played Duram, watching him explode onto the
scene the way that he has. But why has he
missed out on selection for the av for the New
Zealand A side.
Speaker 7 (38:58):
Yeah it's a.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
Good question, isn't it Because for mine, he already, even
though he hasn't played Super rugby, would have to be
one of the top six half backs in the country.
It's an interesting balancing act. This All Blacks fifteen, This
New Zealand B side, if you like, given its coach
by Jamie Joseph, who will also be Dylan Pledge's Super
rugby coach for the Highlanders in season twenty twenty six.
(39:21):
So the official line was that Dylan Pledger is still
very young in his rugby journey. The preference for the
Jamie Joseph and the preference for all the way up
for the All Blacks coaches is that Dylan Pledge has
a full Super Agby preseason under his belt back home
and is ready to fire from the word go in
(39:41):
Super rugby next year. I kind of understand it, but
sometimes you know, if we cast our minds all the
way back to a young Richie McCoy who didn't play
Super rugby before he played for the All Blacks, just
came straight off an MPC campaign, sometimes you just got
to look at talent and say, if you're old enough,
you're good enough. And for me at least I would
have loved to see him board the plane next week
(40:04):
on that All Blacks fifteen torp Alas. We're going to
see him in this MPC final on Saturday, and we're
going to hear his name for a long time to come.
I don't want to put too much pressure on the
young man, but for me anyway, Andy, we're two years
out from a World Cup. We've got a fantastic half
back already in the All Blacks and Cameron royguard. But
it would not shock me, Dylan pledge you by that
(40:25):
point be twenty two years old for that World Cup
in Australia. If he's in the mix already such as
his talent and the rise already from the New Zealand
under twenty ranks to completely dominating MPC level. I can
see him just shooting the lights out in super rugby
and going all the way to being a very good
All Black.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Just finally, the Black Caps against Englyn playing short form
at the moment before the fifty over variety kicks off
sooner than later. But unfortunately the weather gods aren't playing
ball as they aren't around the country in a lot
of instances at the moment. And I don't know, scheduling
cracket for New Zealand and October seems a bit bizarre.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
Yeah, their hands are tight, are a little bit, aren't
they Andy where you know that's such as the dominance
and proliferation of franchise T twenty cricket around the country,
around the world, I should say, you know they're struggling
to sort of fit in around those schedules in terms
of getting marquee nations like Australia and England. But you're
absolutely right. Yeah, it's a real risk and reward dance
(41:25):
to schedule any cricket in October, such as the volatility
of the weather. We've found that here in christ Church
Saturday Night's game of course being abandoned O run chase
there for the Black Cats tonight. The forecast I am
pleased to say it looks slightly bitter. There is the
odd chance of a shower, but we should get in
all of or if not, just a couple of minor
(41:45):
disruptions for the second T twenty. But yeah, you would
hope down the line we can get back to it
genuinely being a summer of cricket.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Nicky, we can hear your commentaries on Gold Sport for
the final time. You're probably taking the red le gun
with you on Saturday, taking that seat home with you.
You deserve and mate all the best for the call.
Speaker 5 (42:03):
Thank Eddie. You have been very lucky this year with
a Super Rugby Final with the Crusaders and now an
NBC final here and cross Yitch as well. Cannot wait.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
It should be a doozy that Sunday, laugh out loud
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Speaker 1 (42:25):
What's Irish and stays out all night hetti your furniture
you good and finally as well, just to shout out
to the way Keck a man who under lang Shield
and gold for the first time in twenty five years.
So well done, guys. That's us for the afternoon. I'm
andy you it we hear about this alliance. Result tomorrow
will be all over it. Enjoy the afternoon, stay wrapped up,
(42:47):
See you tomorrow, my hem.
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