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Andy Muir talks to Jeff Grant, Matt McRae, Grant McMaster, Simon Stokes, Abbey White and Sam Riley.

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Good afternoon, Welcome to the muster on Hakanui. I'm Andy
Muer here until two o'clock of course, thanks of Peterson
the next Thanks for your company on a historic day
for the Alliance Group with the proposal from Dawn Meets
being accepted by shareholders. Jamie spoke to Markwin previously on
the country. We're going to continue on with that theme.
Catching up with a couple of regulars here on the muster,

(00:35):
Jeff Grant regarding it. Jeff's been outspoken regarding this agreement,
and Mett McCrae as well from Mockerta. But before that,
Whenstefanie's the dunes for a chilli. Tuesday five day forecasts
brought to you by twin Farm teff Rom and suff Text.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
The proof is in the progeny Tefron dot co dot nz.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
When he asks the question what are you waiting for?
We're waiting for the bloody sun for God's sake. Tuesday
is rain with brisk west north westleies and a high
of eleven. Wednesday cloudy with breezy northwesterlyes eight and fourteen.
Thursday rain with brisk northwesties four and seventeen. Friday afternoon
shells of breezy west northwest is six and twelve and
Saturday rain with breezy west nor westers five and thirteen.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Soial temperatures.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Now I've actually wrote us today's down beside them to
give you a comparison Clinton yesterday right, Here's how we'll
do it. Clinton yesterday ten point nine, today ten point one,
Harriet today nine point one. Northern Southland yesterday ten today
nine point eight, Riveton eleven point five today eleven to
ten point six. Today is nine point eight today, Row
yesterday nine point eight today again today nine point eight

(01:47):
went to nine point eight. Today nine point five went
to nine point eight. Nine point six is the reading today.
So all barring woodlands, they've all dropped by about point three.
So to give you an idea of the soil temperatures.
Starting off the hour, like I say, with Jeff Grant
talking about this decision with Alliance Group and Dawn Meet's
coming on board, and we continued that as well with

(02:07):
Mett McCrae and a few concerns about what happens now,
what questions need asked around the leadership and the direction
I suppose of the Alliance Group as such, Simons takes
us on the program from Environments Southland, as as Grant
as ask MacMaster now up there in central Otago, excuse
me around the waker Tippi basin. They're going through flooding

(02:29):
at the moment, and Grant tells us just how bad
the situation is. And then to wrap things up, Abby
White from Clinton Young Farmers, Sam Riley from PGG Rights
and gives a rundown of the Lornbull sale. Then we'll
start the hour with Jeff Grant. Jeff Grant catches up

(02:57):
with us once again this afternoon. The news came out
this morning that Alliance Farmers shareholders have voted overwhelmingly in
favor of a strategic investment partnership with Irish based Dawn.
Meet's just been pretty vocal around the situation regarding this collaboration.
Joins us today to give a bit of an overview
of what happens next. Jeff, good afternoon, once again. What's

(03:19):
your initial.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Reaction, Olio? I think Peasley, congratulations to the Alliance Creek
board and management for the success of the vote. You know,
I think all of us, either side of the argument,
would like to see that the boat was either one
way or the other reasonably strongly, and so on that basis,
I think at eighty seven have got a clear mandate

(03:44):
to follow through on the door Meets deal.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
You've heard rumors at Nile Brown, the chief executive door
Meets has been down in the South over the past
couple of days, so he wouldn't have turned up here
if there wasn't deal on the table. I suppose that
should have given it away.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Well.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
The other as would have been. I would have thought
that if there been a no vote, door Mets would
have had a view about what they might still want
to do, and that would have been either a conversation
with the banks or possibly with the NO group in
terms of their funding model. So on that basis, you know,
i'd expect if you're doing a material purchase of a company, especially,

(04:21):
I'm sure you want to be there to find out
the result.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Are you surprised at the ease of which Alliance shareholders
put this proposal through.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Look, I think that the whole debate was really driven
by two aspects. One was that there was probably a
high level of apathy in the early stages. That probably
changed a bit with us arguing the no case. So
on the number of people who actually voted in terms

(04:50):
of ninety million years that that was a substantial vote,
and so that really tells you that people got engaged
during that process. I think the second part was just
this ever ending threat of the bank stepping in on
the nineteenth of December, because it just created a cloud

(05:11):
of saying, well, what are the options if this happened.
My view has always been that the banks wouldn't have
stepped in on the nineteenth to close the plant down
six days before Christmas in the start of the peak season,
so there would have been a mechanism to work through
the season for the seasonal finance. We would have felt

(05:32):
comfortable about being able to meet a bulk of the
debt in some of the equity by the nineteenth. So
on that basis, you know, Fine is just going to
have to accept that they lost from seventy percent equity
down to forty percent under the current regime. You know,
this board needs to really reflect why did the company
get itself into this position in the first place. And

(05:54):
that's probably the biggest frustration as we watched the last
go up the zen meat industry disappear. The reality is
this was reflected directly on the way that board and
the management have operated over the last probably five years.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Jeff, do you have a concern this can be seen
as nothing more than a short term sugar fix.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Look, if you were looking around the world and saying
where would be a compatible person or company to be
involved in the New Zealand meat industry and fairness, door
Meats will be in that top five. So in terms
of company being in the Northern Hemisphere, higher and beef,
lower and land is a mix with the Alliance group.

(06:40):
But I just you know, the frustraction I've got is
this didn't need to happen.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Do you think the Alliance bort has been pretty transparent
through this process because a lot of people have been
cynical about it.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
No, no, they haven't at all. And I don't think
that in terms of the expring of the options. I
think the board found itself somewhat stuck by the fact
it was under some pressure.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
With the banks.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
I mean, this is like a farmer, you know, just
ignoring his bank for a long time and then suddenly
the bank says to you, look mate, if you can't
sort out the finances, we're going to shut you up
to allow you know, a co op or a company
to get to that position. It just makes you really wonder,
so is that a.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Case of the questioning starts now regarding the Alliance sport Perhaps.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Look, I think it will be a study of university
business management courses for some years to come. This would
be one of the saddest outcomes of a New Zealand
owned enterprise ending up in the hands of somebody else,
and when it probably had the opportunity of not having

(07:48):
to go back down that track.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
You talked about over capacity before, It's still something that
needs address in the red meat sector.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
All of this question is niss Quest has been in
front of the industry for about twenty five years, so
it's increasingly becoming a problem. I think over capacity will
continue for another few years. The question would be is
there going to be some consolidation or is there just
going to be companies closing That yet to play out.

(08:20):
I can't product what we're going to see, but I
would say, especially the numbers the way that declining, especially
in cheat meat, I think you're going to see a
bit of uptick with beef over the next three to
five years. But on sheet meat, I don't see a
plateau coming forward.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Some time the Northern Southern Farmer's counterproposal to Alliance. Do
you think it was a case of too little, too late?

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Look, there were two difficulties in that. One is that
I think if ball Meats and the Alliance Group proposal
have been fifty to fifty with an injection of capital
over three years, or say twenty five million from shierholders,
I don't think we would have had a debate. It
was just the fact that it was sixty five percent.

(09:06):
Could there have been an argument that eighteen months ago
that the recapitalization, Well, the reality was it was in
the hands of the board to find a suitable partner.
And I don't think anybody felt that the original capital
raised with the shareholders has done anything other than poorly timed,

(09:29):
poorly organized, and done with some arrogance in terms of
just lopping it off you without really a good explanation
as to the need and desire for the strategy of
the company going forward. So for that reason, I'd fully
understand why shareholders initially didn't put money in. It was
at the worst time we have sold a company at
the worst time it's history in terms of debt that

(09:52):
has completely turned around in the last twelve months and
its projections going forward to look much more stronger than
they did twelve months ago.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
So you believe there would have been another option on
the table if this had been a no voter but
not a bailout.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
But the banks would have been forgiving to a degree.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
No, No, the banks wouldn't have been forgiving. And the
White Eyed group had effectively had two leaders of intent,
one involved in some equity, the other involved the rationalization
in terms of debt and then the ability for farmers
to capitalize the company over a period of time. I
would have to say through the great work of Mark Gunton,

(10:32):
who's got obviously good stretch out into the international market
through his own business. Clearly those two leaders of intent
which were given to the chairman of Alliance Crew Class Friday,
were ones that genuinely would have given us a solution.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
I suppose the issue a third party, though, is just
going to hang around and if nothing else, just game
more momentum as red meat becomes a premium product and
supplies at a minimum too. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Look, I think the short term future of the remeat
industry is pretty good. You know, weuld possibly have to
thank mister Trump to a certain extent on the beach
side with tariffsucceeded of just distorting the market, and on
that basis, I think we'll see some strong pricing over
the next twelve twenty four months, but no, like all

(11:19):
ways in the meat industry, when you're up, you go down.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Jeff Grant always appreciate your time on the Muster. Cheers
Jeff Grant giving his views around the alliance deel that's
gone through. Will continue with this theme next. Matt McCrae
and Macarta will have a catch up next and get
MAT's reaction.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
This is the Muster.

Speaker 6 (11:40):
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Speaker 1 (11:53):
Matt McCrae farms at Macareta and joins us this afternoon
to give us his take regarding the alliance to decision
with Dawn Meet's Matt, Good, afternoon, democracy spoke this morning
and the way the alliance cooperative. What are your initial thoughts?

Speaker 5 (12:09):
Yeah, afternoon, Andy, Ye're not are overly surprising, to be fair,
but yeah, still bit a sweet nonetheless good they've got
a good clear mend either way, and yeah, let's hope
they can move forward with a strong mend that now.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
I suppose nothing else, there was strong, clear messaging from
shareholders that they believed in the concept.

Speaker 5 (12:30):
Yeah, it was like it was good that it wasn't
one or two percent the way, because it just leaves
a lot of questions to isn't it. Yeah, there'll still
be a lot of questions. But it goes to show
that it was at sixty two percent of shareholders or
whatever head voted in eighty seven percent of total ytes.
So yeah, good to see. Good a good turnout, and

(12:52):
it goes to show what can be done for a
lot of other companies and processes around. Yeah, be encouraging
that if even big farmers could get that engaged on
a lot of other issues facing the industry at the moment.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
That's an interesting point you bring up there, getting farmers
to engage another and other issues I suppose, But to
be fair, this was a pretty major one.

Speaker 5 (13:15):
Yeah, it is like it's a it is a big issue,
and yeah, a new chapter in the meat industry and
New Zealand. Tom will tell how it plays out. I
guess the challenge now is making this decision the right
one for alliance, isn't it. So yeah, we'll wait and
see how it plays out. But certainly relieved for the staff,

(13:38):
the drafters and meat workers in the short term, certainly
it provides them. So yeah, I guess we'll work through
what the challenges are as they come to head over
the next few years.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Absolutely, it's got to be pretty stressful for all the
drafters as well as the meat worker as well.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Shout to everybody involved.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
With the alliance today because uncertaintly going forward is never
a good So at least they can sit there and
sleep eases and knowing they've got a job tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
Yeah exactly. And yeah, we have a very good relationship
with their drafter and he does a fantastic job, and
know a lot of the meat workers in that too,
So it is reassuring that coming months Tom and Limb
start rolling in there that they will get killed. But yeah,
it still bigs the questions. It doesn't actually change anything

(14:27):
in terms of the industry structure or the way way
a lance operates. So yeah, we look forward to seeing
what Dawn and what's role they playing and shaping that
in the future.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
So what does this mean for the red sect, for
the red meat sector going forward in your opinion, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
It's a good question. Yeah, it would be one. We'll
be asking of Dawn the Way a lot to see
what they how they see it playing out. But I
guess this still is overcapacity. There's stillers in market opportunities,
and yes, hopefully it's not a continuation of last men
standing and we have a procurement more for the next

(15:09):
five years. But i'd like to see Yeah, I still
like to see a bit of leadership in that space.
But I guess I've got to get to know each other. Now.
It's in your company, isn't it. Tom will only tell,
and it's hope they play a positive role in shaping
the future.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Dawn mates.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
The figures look good on paper, but if you're an
Alliance shareholder, still it's an unknown quantity too. Yeah, no
it is.

Speaker 5 (15:32):
I still think they got it, got it cheap. Alliance
had turned around the web. But yeah, if you played
to them, they got in and struck while the iron
was hot. So yeah, Tom will tell how that investment is.
But I guess we've just lost well, based on the
independent report, we've just lost a few thousands and tens
of thousands of dollars in equidy today, which makes it,

(15:55):
like I said earlier, a bit bit of sweet. But yeah,
let's hope that investment that is all there, has a
good return going forward. Obviously see themselves as a bit
of a saviors to Alliance, but not necessarily rely the industry,
Sir Tom will tear that plays out and how their
relationships with some of the other players in the industry go.

(16:16):
But being nice, I think we could use some of
the current market hires to fax a few of the
bigger problems at stake.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
But yeah, Tom will tell Matt you went along to
the meeting yesterday with your brother and you were glad
you took him along because you have Jake that you
were at the youngest one in the room. Do you
think there is a real concern though about young people,
young farmers needing to engage more.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
Yeah, there certainly is. Is saying it was please please
to take him along. There there were a lot of
there weren't a lot of younger pharmas here and that's
probably an Alliance problem and also an industry problem to
get younger people engaged. And so yeah, going forward, I

(17:01):
don't know, like I said earlier, it was good to
see a vote to turn out, but it'd be good
to see some young people there with the shoulders to
the wheel to make some positive changes going forward. It's
good to make most of a wet day and get
a few ten jobs sticked off or where it. We're
in there, so you're always interesting to see how those
processes play out. And yeah, say in the future either way,

(17:23):
we were a part of it, so yeah, there's a
few opinions, and it was fairly respectful and process. I've
probably learned just as much watching online at home. But
good to make use of a wet day, and we've
had twenty of them at the moment.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
So speaking of wet days, what a ground condition is
like a mocker reader at the moment.

Speaker 5 (17:45):
Pretty pretty average, to be fair. The feeds well and
truly disappeared, and we're just seemed to be getting one
and Chaps strode out a little bit and then more rain,
so's not hard to make a mess at the moment.
It wouldn't be too much tailing getting done up the scully,
but you were just trying to toddy up a few
things for an open next Friday, and yeah, give todying

(18:10):
up and make your selfsh'd up to script. But yeah,
the weather's proven challenging in that regard a way.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Are you getting through the tailing? And were likes okay
or just another job and he's ticked off.

Speaker 5 (18:21):
H we got the lucky We got the bulk of
it done. The fortnight of got it was a good
job to have done. But yeah, we're just waiting to
get tided up on a few later, Lemmon Lemmas and
your hogg its finished Lemmon in the next couple of days.
Give them a week or ten days and cut the
rest of the towels off. But yeah, it's not looking

(18:42):
too bad. But the weather has certainly had some effect
going forward. But yeah, certainly enough to play the bulls
this see, which is good.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Good on you mate, I always appreciate your time on
the Master.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
Was cheering.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Met my cry of Marco readers.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
At the end of the hour, we are catching off
the abbe white out of Clinton young farmers, Simon stocks
from Environment South. But up next we head up to
close ber In Station on the edges of Lake Wakster,
Lake Wakstapoo, Lake Wakin Tippoo. That should be with Grant
disaster Big Master.

Speaker 7 (19:17):
Wing.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Thanks to Abby Rural we catch up the grant disaster
Big Master, and we do so again this afternoon, Disaster.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Good afternoon.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
It sounds as though up in the basin and waking
tippoo you almost need to have your flippers on.

Speaker 8 (19:35):
Yeah, it doesn't rain, it just paused. So good afternoon, Andy,
Good after everybody. The weather's turned to shite and haven't
stopped raining since about six o'clock yesterday morning. And that
time we've had was when I left this morning at
eight o'clock seventy.

Speaker 9 (19:49):
Five mils so.

Speaker 8 (19:51):
And it's still it's east off a little bit. It's
the tag six degrees. A lot of snow went around it.
Well it's hard to see because it was just clagged in,
but there was snow went around yesterday afternoon and it
was gone this morning with more rain. So yeah, I've
been over our town at the Hill's block there this morning.
The flats along hod and Gully Road Borough washed with water.

(20:15):
I think that's more a drainage problem that the council
have with subdeveloped developments going in and we're nowhere for
the water people putting up burms and you know, water
not being able to get down into the over your
gravel and what have you. But you fit of water
on the flats there, but nine degrees in ourtown and
the rain at east and it was a little bit

(20:36):
fens a little bit warmer. But looking around over there,
as mentioned before, the two d jeries is about one
hundred and forty of them lambing over there. Picked up
a dead you and one dead lamb this morning, so
that was all right. And I'm just out at Moat
Lake now and it's you know, the road is coming
into Moat Lake and just by Lake Kirkpatrick, it's on

(20:57):
a bit of a fall. It's just absolutely rded out,
so gouged out, I should say, and a lot of
surface water. And again the Lily Hills is just waterfalls
from places I haven't seen andy. So that's today, and
I don't think the forecast is much better for Thursday.
So yeah, they're trying times.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Compared to last year, Grant, what's to like is a
very similar similar but we've had more.

Speaker 8 (21:23):
Rain man I over a slightly longer period, and it
doesn't look as it's going to ease, you know, the
end of this week, either. So it's yeah, it's very
green at the moment, and if it does stop raining
and we get a bit of heat, I'm sure we're
going to be in a good position as long as
all the lambs don't get washed away in the meantime.
But just coming through the road this morning, and I

(21:47):
haven't seen too many dead lambs, and sent a couple
up in the bushes, but there's other lambs around them,
so I just carry on. And when it flies up
tomorrow the next day and they're lying in the sun,
hopefully I'll pick them up. But yeah, at this stage,
I think that the lambing has been a bit well,
it's been a bit slower, which hasn't been savad I
guess it's it's an ill wind that blows no good.

(22:10):
But yeah, it's there's I'm reasonably happy the way things
are looking. Over thought, it might have been a lot
worse than it is, so quite pleased about that. But
if it's not raining any time at life, of.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Course you're right in the middle of lambing at the
moment too, so it's less than ideal.

Speaker 8 (22:26):
No, And you know, carving still full bore as well.
And but yesterday, while that rain was just constant, it
didn't have a there was no window. That wasn't such
a chill factor like you get with the wind. Mind
Do I say that because I was sitting inside in
front of the log burn in the afternoon. But it
was you know, it wasn't it wasn't windy, and it

(22:48):
wasn't a cold wind. So just just that continual rain,
which is sort of the less of the evils. A
bit of wind during the night. But then I thought,
I like it might have blown through, but then raining
again this morning, so and can and continuing to do
it now and as I say, it's down six degrees
here at the moment.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Now, you've had a couple of instances around lambing with
members of.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
The public or tourists. I don't know, you've got a
bit of a story tell around this disaster. I'm sure
it'd be pretty much a doozy as well.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
Well, you know, we.

Speaker 8 (23:16):
Can't be all doom and gloom. You know, dogs are
killing bloody sheep and the rains here. But you know,
there's always the silver lining, isn't there. And that's what
life's about. You just got to keep going. But I
got to call the other night to say, as a
bloke said that he was coming out of Moat Lake
and there was a u that was down by a
fence line next to the road, and it had a

(23:38):
couple of lambs that were a bit sickly, and he
tried to give one on the feet and so I said,
I'm right, I'll be around there in the morning and
i'll sort that out. Because it was dark. So I
come over in the morning and I just was coming
up towards the area and this guy stops in the car,
saw you, the manager, and I said, yes, I am,
I said, you're the guy that's He said, sorry, he

(23:59):
said on the way that's been pestering about that that
sheet and I said, I hope good on. You know,
thanks very much, and anyway, he said, well, he said,
I've been there this morning. The lamb, he said, I
gave it. I tried to give it a drink last
night and come after you obviously, and he said I've
been here this morning. I got there early and he
said it was quite cold. He said, so I've had

(24:20):
it in my car for the last hour with the
heater on. I said, thanks very much, sure that there's
much appreciated. Oh, I can take over from here, which
I did, so I thought, you know, you know the public,
you can't. Sometimes you think, gee, I wish they'd just
just sort of mind their own business. But you know
that most people are animal lovers and they see the

(24:40):
best and everything. And you know, I said to this guy,
well you've done really well, thanks very much. So I thought,
you know, people are you know, for a lot of
a lot of reasons. You know, the people that come out,
they are very you know that they want to see
the best and everything, and nature is you know, does
its own thing, and they're there to help and they
think they're a great time and sometimes they don't. But

(25:02):
you can't knock them forward, and you've got to thank
them and be grateful.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
I guess facts in the rural urban divide one day
at a time.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Hey, Grant, just finally, what are your thoughts around this alliance,
this alliance deal it is now with doing meats?

Speaker 8 (25:16):
Well, I think it was a sort of a form
long conclusion really. I mean that there's all the facts
and the figures we've heard. There's there's nothing new that
we don't know about the about the meat industry. So
you know, the their debt service and with the banks,
you know, it comes back to over capacity and the
meat works. You got to say poor management along the way,

(25:37):
you know, procurement, wars, marketing, all of that. You know,
there's you know, there's been recessions and what have you.
But at the end of the day, we need to
sell our meet. And I you know, I thought it
was a good effort from those that that group of
farmers that thought they could get something going. But I guess,
you know, eighty eight percent people wanted one of the

(26:00):
hour to go. I think the fact is, you know
that the dead loading is incredible, and you know, we
need to we need to be able to get on
and and supply the lands and farmers not having to
be putting in their in their pockets. Then you know,
we we need good management to make sure this happens.
And I just I just hope the fact that you know,
well we've got you know, we've got you know, the

(26:23):
Chinese and with silver fir and farms and Japanese NSCO,
so we've got the paddies and with us now and
I guess you know that, but I think that could
be right is the fact that you know, if we
can kill here off season to the to the northern hemisphere,
and perhaps that opens up markets for you know, getting

(26:44):
meat into the into the EU and eas into the
UK practs. But you know, the farmers have spoken and
it's not as it was a tight run thing. I
think people just had a you know, guts full of
everything that's happening. And that's hope that the new broom
sweeps clean.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Who grud all the best of the weather up there.
Here's hoping you get some sunshine and someones to dry
things out sooner than later.

Speaker 8 (27:05):
Hey yeah, I'll just put the flippers and the goggles
on snorker and I was just going to kick the.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Okay, grand disaster, McMaster, Thanks for a team at RB Rural.
We do hope the weather sorts itself up, sorts herself
out up there in the base. And anyway, like Grant
was talking about, Simon stakes is up next from Environment Southland.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Never gets to grind.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
It's good.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Welcome back to the muster.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
I'm Andy Mier and our next guest is Simon stakes Land,
sustainability manager with Environment south and this and have you
sponsored by Environment Southland. Simon, good afternoon, Welcome to the
muster and more importantly, welcome to the Deep South.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
Yeah no jog Andy, No, thank you very much. That's
awesome and yeah, no, really enjoying my what is it
six weeks now, it's been pretty awesome.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Just been a little bit cooler than what you're used to.
You're based in the Bay a Plenty originally, Yes.

Speaker 10 (28:10):
Yeah, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
I've spent quite a bit of time up in the
Bay of Plenty, living near Fokatane. But I'm actually actually
hawks Bay born and bred, so Hawks Bay can have
its cold moments as well. But yeah, no, I'll get used.

Speaker 8 (28:24):
To it now.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Simon.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
You're the new land Sustainability manager at Environment Southland. Your
background is such for the role?

Speaker 2 (28:31):
What have you got?

Speaker 4 (28:33):
Yeah, it's a long title, isn't it. Well, actually, I'm
just about creeping into my fourth decade of work in
this area of work. I've well, we sold the farm
way back around the mid two thousand, so I was
essentially in a farming career, but then went to work

(28:53):
in the regional council system as a land management officer
and started my career in Tomata Nui, center of the
North Island. And then I suppose twenty three years later
i'd moved made my way through to Hawk's Bay and
up to Bay a plenty and just been heavily involved
and working with farmers in the industry all that time

(29:13):
through regional councils. Then I went working on my own
actually because I had a bit of a role at
Beef and Land New Zealand running their environmental management strategy
for a couple of years, and then decided to just
have a crack on my own because I ended up
with two good pieces of work. One was looking at

(29:35):
land use change and revitalizing Tataile, which went for about
four and a half years with the science challenges, and
then I was also developing I've put in place a
pretty of the free project eradicating or eliminating possums working
for Natiahwa, which is an EE based around the Bay

(29:56):
of Plenty or based near Fokatano basically, and that was
an awesome project. Yeah, And anyway, this role came up
and I wanted to challenge and I wanted to find
a different part of the world to work in and
what a place to come to.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
So what would you say is a big focus for
the Land sustainability team during the spring and heading into summer.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
Well, the main focus is working with farmers and getting
out and talking to as many farmers as possible because
the guys have got plenty of knowledge about the activities
that occur on farm through spring and summer, particularly around
any of the cultivation, sewing crops, etc. And also one
of the key things is that we've got funding in

(30:40):
our catchment improvement fund and would like to spend it,
so we're looking for farmers who want projects with us.
Those projects can range from your kind of your standard
by peer and work through to wetlands, wetlands and erosion
control planting as well, so there's a few options there.

(31:00):
Bit mostly it's just getting out of the office and
getting out and being a part of the farming community
and helping them with whatever they need advice with.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
So that's basically your cool focus in the role. They're
just getting out and giving advice to farmers. Regarding oursion
with likes as you alluded.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
To, Yeah, yeah, look at I've been working in this
type of work for a long time and we've got
to have really strong solid relationships not with our farmers
but also the community they live and work, and the
best way to do that is to be out there
and amongst it all all the time as much as possible.
Because technically the guys are really well trained. They know

(31:38):
a lot of technical things about land management and biodiversity
and they can offer up as much support and guidance
to farmers as possible. And there's a really key focus
at the moment too on planning or farm planning you
could breshwater farm planning, whatever you want to call it.

(31:59):
And the team are very well trained to be able
to help farmers with getting those those sort of thinking
required to future proof them in place. And they're they're available,
and I suppose a good thing is that they're free,
so you know, that's what we're designed to do.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
So if somebody wants to get in touch, so i'mon
with the team regarding Lends sustainability, what's the best way to.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Go about it?

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Well, the basic way is to give an eight hundred
number I eight hundred seventy six eighty eight forty five
and asked to speak to one of the one of
the team and they'll come back to you straight away.
And of course there's always the email service as well,
which is service at ES dot govt dot m Z.

(32:45):
You can tell I'm reading that off a page for sure.
But also there's a lot of people out there who
know know the team and so if you're talking to
some of the real professionals or agencies who know us,
they may be able to help get in touch with
the right person as well.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
So yeah, good on your Simon, appreciated your time on
the muster and trust me, the sun does come out
in Southland eventually.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Yeah, no, I believe you all right mate, Thank you very.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Much, Simon Stokes, Lands Sustainability Manager for Environments Southland. You're
listening to the muster before we wrap up. Abby White
out of Clinton Young Farmers, welcome back to the Muster.

(33:32):
Joining us in our Young Farmer's Chat this afternoon is
Abby White of Clinton Young Farmers, based in clive Vale,
which she's working.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
On a farm.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Abby, good, afternoon. It sounds as though you've had a
bit of a I don't know. The weather sounds like
Clive Vale's doing the same as everywhere else. It's is
wind and rain and anything but sun.

Speaker 7 (33:48):
Absolutely. Yeah, we've got son out at the minute. But yes,
the one's definitely making itself well known around here today.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Ground conditions just saturated on imagine.

Speaker 7 (34:00):
Yeah, we are itching to get that out into the
Paddix to get them worked up, so hopefully this wind
is drying it out, which is all that's good for
at the moment.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Have you managed to get the tailing done.

Speaker 7 (34:12):
Yeah, we tailed probably about a fortnight ago, so yeah,
got that out of the way before all the rubbish.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Clinton Young Farmers. The district finals were held there last weekend.
Tell us all about it.

Speaker 7 (34:23):
Yeah, so we had a fantastic day, twenty four contestants
and they were put to the test over fifteen modules
which were hosted by outside businesses and that and yeah,
great day head by all.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
So we got the eight winners to go through to
the regionals.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
As far as the tasks that they had to do,
straining a wire motorbike module that goes about saying what
else did they.

Speaker 5 (34:48):
Have to do?

Speaker 7 (34:50):
There was a bit to do with like land care
and things like that. We had a counting one war
identification and I think the most popular, I think have
been the first aid where they had to do CPR
and a dummy.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
So why was that popular?

Speaker 7 (35:06):
Ah, something a bit different, I think, And yeah, it
was all monitored by the computer and it kind of
gave them a score that way. So yeah, a few
red faces and puff people came out of that module,
but I think it was well enjoyed.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
So is that how it works these days when you're
working on a dummy doing CPR, there's actually a computer
in there that tells you if you're getting the ratio on.

Speaker 7 (35:26):
That, right, I believe?

Speaker 2 (35:28):
So, yeah, jeez, that's pretty high tech.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
It's pretty cool actually, but very relevant as well, because
you can't underestimate first aid, especially.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
When you're a cocky exactly.

Speaker 7 (35:36):
Yes, you even know when it might come in handy.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
So how many contestants weren't from a farming background you reckon?

Speaker 7 (35:44):
I'd say a good chunk of them, quite a few
you could obviously tell who was more competitive, and then
there was a good handful that came through just to
give it a go and really enjoyed it. And I
think they'll be back next time.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
So Attorney's got the regions this year, haven't they? But
that's not happening for a wee while yet, is that right?

Speaker 7 (36:04):
Not till the start of Febury.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
That's right just before field days actually, So our eight
finalists going through to the regionals and Kristen Lafisky, Cameron Smith,
Harry McCallum, Henry Smith, Haydn Smith, all the Smith's, Sharon
Sherman's Lucky Dad and Tom Slid Lucky Tom and Cam
Smith obviously the rep last year, so three names, yes,

(36:26):
anonymous of the event. Was there a quizz or anything
like that at the end of the day or is
it all purely on modules?

Speaker 7 (36:32):
It's all purely on modules at the district's level, so
it's more hands on and your interactive with you know,
module hosts and hopefully learning quite a bit from them.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Do you have many people coming out and supporting.

Speaker 7 (36:44):
Yeah, we had a few people's families there braving the
weather in the morning, but yeah, it was good to
see a few spectators.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, it's just as crazy how it's all kicked off again,
it's not that long ago since you was crowned in
the cargo in July and bimfarre it's October already, right,
I know too, right, I'm not keen on that everything else, Clinton,
Young Farmers. Since we spoke last how's everything been?

Speaker 7 (37:08):
Yeah? Good, it was just the lead up to districts
was pretty busy. But we might put our feet up
for a couple of weeks and then get on to
our next adventures, I suppose. So what's your next adventures,
Well we've got We're hoping that Agri Kids have a
go day at the South Totago amp Show towards the
end of November, and then we'll have our club end

(37:31):
of year doo as well at the start of December.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Now it sounds as other Agricids competition is really well
supported and almost filled up.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Is that correct? Have you heard?

Speaker 8 (37:41):
I think so?

Speaker 6 (37:42):
Well.

Speaker 7 (37:42):
Our one that we run is like non official Agrecids,
but it's just kind of to reach out to the
school zon don't get involved yea, So it's more of
just to have a go and see what it's about
if they want to enter properly.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
I'll presume you have good feedback from the school as
well regarding it though when it comes to this kind
of thing, Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 7 (38:00):
They often try to get us in a couple of
their lunch times during the term and give more kids
from the school all go, which is quite good. We
might look into more doings.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
So have you got any inter club challenges on the
horizon or anything like that?

Speaker 7 (38:16):
Nothing coming up anytime soon, but I think a few
of the other clubs have got a few things in
the pipeline, so we'll see if we get called up
for a challenge soon.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
We'll just wait for the weather to sort itself out.
Then it's game one now. If anybody was to get
in touch ay regarding Clinton young farmers, what do they
need today?

Speaker 7 (38:35):
I'll just pop over to our Facebook page. Yeah, and
can flip us a message. Someone will reply.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Back to you and yeah, hey, Abby White out of
Clinton Young Farmers. Always good to catch up. Congratulations of
the finalists going through the regionals. But well downder Clinton
as well. Putting on the day. It's never easy to
do something like that. The organization and the YURLs a
go into it. By all, the council was a fantastic occasion.
So you guys give yourselves a pat on the back.

Speaker 6 (38:59):
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Speaker 1 (39:14):
If you ever think English is not a weird language,
just remember that read and lead rhyme, and read and
lead rhyme.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
But read and lead don't rhyme, and neither do read
and lead.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Just a confusing one there today because I can Howie
Morrison on the program tomorrow Don Morrison, Alliance board director.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
To engage some reaction from his perspective.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Twenty four hours on from the announcement regarding Alliance and
Dawn Meat going together in this venture.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
My name's y.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Buy you even listening to the muster on Harkni of
course thanks to peterston Nick. The podcast is going up
shortly and we'll catch up with you tomorrow. Stay warm
out there.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
Hey, well all right too, he'll go there?

Speaker 4 (40:02):
And what did he go on?

Speaker 5 (40:02):
Again?

Speaker 1 (40:03):
For stock selling action occurred this morning courtesy of PGG
Wrightson at the Loneville sale yards. So we catch up
with Sam Rdy get a run down on prices. Good afternoon, Sam.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
How hot do we go today?

Speaker 7 (40:14):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Going, Eddie?

Speaker 10 (40:15):
Pretty similar last week? Mate, to be looking at it
Storekattle probably up a weave it some buger quality on
there and selling on a very strong market.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
So we'll go with the.

Speaker 11 (40:26):
Prime lambs again this week.

Speaker 10 (40:28):
Tops of those with three hundred to three hundred and fifty,
mediums two forty to two eighty and the lighter end
crimes one hundred and eighty to two thirty.

Speaker 11 (40:36):
Into the years just the medium outing of years and
today tops of those one seventy to two thirty the
medium's one fifty to one sixty five in the lighter
in US one twenty to one forty, with the lower
condition US at ninety tw one hundred dollars rams and
tops of the heavy rams or one hundred dollars the
medium seventy to eighty. Just a handful of store lambs.

Speaker 10 (40:57):
And today it's still one fifty to one sixty on
MOS and one thirty on the medium, and the using
lambs all counted, we're one hundred and twenty six to
one thirty four dollars. So just a couple of lines
of lozen moving into the prime cattle mate, just the
small yarding of prime cattle selling on a firm market.

Speaker 9 (41:14):
Good to see steers four sixty to five seventy kgs.
They were four dollars fifty to four dollars seventy kilow
Gary heav Is at five hundred and thirty kg's four
dollars sixty Gary heav Is at three forty to four
hundred kgs three dollars fifty to three.

Speaker 10 (41:28):
Dollars eighty five. And those cows are selling very well.
Five hundred kg plus cows three dollars twenty to three
dollars thirty six into the store kettle. They're small yarding
a store kettle with some very good quality there there
some two your angus cross stairs at six hundred and
fifty nine kgs. They were three thousand, one hundred and

(41:49):
eighty dollars. Some two year old here if across stairs
at six hundred and ten kilos twenty nine hundred and
eighty dollars. Some are two here up across years at
four hundred and forty nine kg he's two thy one
hundred and thirty dollars. And two here across heifers at
to four hundred and twenty seven kilos they were nineteen
hundred and thirty dollars.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
So excuse me.

Speaker 10 (42:10):
That wraps up Normaleah, very successful day if you're selling
some good quality kettle.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Now he's Admi
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