October 21, 2025 • 44 mins
Andy Muir talks to Don Morrison, David Frame, Veronica Oostveen, Craig Sinclair, Warren Ross and Russell Maloney.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Time to catch up with Nathan Abernethy at a regional
Ford who was busy last week? Will you always catch your man?
Good afternoon, Nathan.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
You get it, Andy, And yeah, it was a busy week.
I'm sorry I wasn't with you on Friday. But we're
here today and another pretty ordinary day it is out there,
but luckily we've got a good showroom. It's nice and
warming here. We've got it full of new cars, plenty
of used cars out here at the moment, so a
lot of really neat stuff coming in at the moment. Andy,
But I've got to say that it is really really busy.
There's a lot of good secondhand cars that are going out.
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But look, we've still got plenty of fort Everest coming
in at the moment. We've got next Gen, which is
the latest model fort Everest out on the yard here secondhand,
and we've got the model before as well, a few
fort Everst Titanium and a few sport models out there.
All seven theaters. We've got three to be six diesels
and we've got two liter twin turbo diesel there as well.
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Plenty of good Ford Rangers coming through as well as
other brands. We've got high lacks out here. We've got Mitsubishi,
we've got hold in Colorado and a bit of everything else.
The team are on board.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
We're here to do deals.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
We've got our business manager Cody here and he can
sort the finance for you. Come in and see us,
and we like to make things very very easy. So yeah,
come in and see us if you've got time, and
we'll pick up the phone and give us a call.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Good only night catch up.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
So thank you Andy, good afternoon.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
And welcome to the muster on Hakanui. I'm Andy. You're
here until two o'clock thanks to Peters and NEDLX. Thanks
for your company and yet another gray afternoon here and
gore sound like a breaking record, but that's just what
the weather's doing at the moment. Not that I need
to tell you that straight into it. D D Smash
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afternoon showers of Bristol or westerlyes at a higher fifteen Tomorrow.
Rayard blustery western north westerlies four and seventeen. Friday afternoon
showers of breezy north westerly six and twelve, Saturday showers
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breezy to Bristol or westerlies forming four and twelve, and
Sunday showers of breezy west northwesterlyes four and twelve. Yet again,
so temperatures to hand northern south for nine point three,
Riveton eleven, tat Our nine point eight, Tittoro A nine
point one, Winton and Woodland's both nine point three as
we start the yewl with Don Morrison, willow Bank farmer
(02:38):
and Alliance Board director twenty four hours on the announcement
regarding the collaboration of Alliance Group with Dawn Meets Buying
in has been finalized through a vote and overwhelmingly so.
David Frame from Craig's Investment Partners is on the program
for veronica OUs Fine from dairy en Z Craig Saint
Clair from the gord District Council. We're having changes to
(02:58):
the rubbish yes again, hearing god, I want to say
yet again. This happened a couple of years ago regarding
the red and yellow bin. So courageous because some clarification
about what's actually going on there regarding the bin situation
down here in Gore. And to wrap up the hour,
Warren Ross, who farms at Wai Mumu. Of course we're
getting a stock style report from Balcluther courtesy of Warwick.
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How not Warwick courtesy of Russell Maloney and the team
at PGG writes. And then we start the hour with
Don Morrison. This is the Muster Roun two two o'clock
thanks to better genetics. Don Morrison starts us off this
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afternoon on the Muster willow Bank farmer and Allianceport director.
How are we good afternoon? How things?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Oh kill Indian? You've given me another good leading with
some stave dobbin and d D smash. That's a great sound.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I seriously contemplated giving you Jefferson starships just so you
could tell your story for Lucky once again, we've.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Heard that enough times and so we'll go to some
day jovin story, shall we. So HC is playing right
and Monica in March, which would be well worth going
and seeing that comfort.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
No, absolutely, when you get these concerts come around, how
you can't really knock them back, Just like the proposal
with Dawn Meets wasn't knocked back overwhelming vote in favor
of Dawn Meats getting involved with Alliance. I suppose initially
for twenty four hours on. From your perspective, it's probably
one of relief that this has gone through right.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Well, Look, I think it's probably recognition of a lot
of hard work done by a lot of people in
the whole process of putting the best deal forward for
what we needed to do, and then in delivering the
message with twenty four road shows to all our shareholders,
you know, virtual webinars. There's a whole lot of work
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from some really really good people going behind that. And
I think what we saw through the whole thing was
edible leadership from Billy Visa and our CEO and Mark
one cheer of the board. I think it was some
outstanding leadership to the galvanized people and galvanize the message.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, it's interesting to bring that up how he's saying
the leaderships galvanize the message. But the argument offer is
that the leadership hasn't been there over the last five, six,
seven years with the organization.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Look, we've been pretty strong in the in the messaging
that we've been putting out. More recently, we had a
we had a bit of a change of regime on
the on the board and the tier, and we just
said we would be more transparent. We know we weren't
as transparent as we needed to be and cheerholders needed
to understand where we were and where we're going and
why we are where we are. So certainly that last
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two years we believe we've been already transparent. You know,
it's interesting and its people. We have brief bites we have.
We have road shows where webinears to some people that
don't go or look at any of them and then say,
how you're not communicating, so I will throw it back.
There's a bit of response ability on both sides. We've
got to give opportunity to get the message out and
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people have got to take that opportunity to learn where
we are.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
But the messaging on the other foot as well, how
we go into these meetings and listening to farmers is
one of frustration too.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
And as come again, Andy, you were saying the message
from farmers was frustration.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah, absolutely, listening to farmers at the meeting and Gorse
saying this option had to go through because they were
just frustrated from the leadership angle over the last five
to six seven years. And obviously it wasn't Mark or
Willy's problem, but they inherited it.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Oh look, I don't think you can blame any one
particular regime, but what it is is it's previous and
success of boards decisions that have made or weren't made.
I mean, can we can analyze them in Hindsight's great,
we've all got twenty twenty vision on hindsights. And you know,
looking back, there was certainly clear that we as a board,
we we didn't have a mechanism to capitalize our balance sheet.
(06:56):
And there's two ways you do that. Andy, you do
that through retained earnings through profits, and with a twenty
million dollar average profit over the over the last ten
years from a company with a two billion dollar plus
turnover but worth similar levels of tapex going out, there
was not a chance to do that through retained earnings.
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And your only other mechanism is through shareholders investing. And
two things I think historically, you know, shareholders have been
more interested in schedule and competitive pricing, and you know,
there's been a lot of criticism that we weren't there
so it's so I think market share would have been
very vulnerable if you tried to take funds off your shareholders,
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and certainly in the last process with Canvas, we tried
and the message was how we would prefer to put
that money back into our farms, and that was a
clean message we got.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So what changes for the Alliance group after yesterday's announcement?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
So Alliance carries on as Alliance, albeit with a different ownership.
But what you've got is all we've got a strong
balance sheet which allows us to invest and operate in
a way that we believe we can be far more,
far stronger on pricing because we're going to be able
citizens to get stronger prices in the market, going to
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different channels and operating in a different way. So that's
the important But and not beholding to that working capital
limit that was there from the bank. But certainly it
is a bigger breath the company now andy with with
that doorn Meat partnership, with access to fifty two week
access for grassbead animal supply, new access into markets that
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we went as strong in access with our joint Ventorshire partner,
door meets and markets that we are really strong and
a lot of knowledge to be gained from their operation
around processing efficiencies that we can learn from them and
they can learn from us. So I would say it's
actually a really exciting time as a farmer to be
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looking to supply your animals to Alliance over these next years,
and particularly when we're in probably one of the strongest
supply markets that we've we've ever been in with their
with their pricing at the moment.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Now you're hearing that Irish farmers who supplied dawn meats
aren't that chuffed about this going through, and you can
understand that as well.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Andy, I think you really when you say something like that,
you've got to understand the scale of of any criticism.
Is it one farmer, is it two farmers? You know
we've seen through them.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Let's just UK farming on a hold out the moment.
The Red Tractor movement, for example, being very parochial towards
your own considering the situation through Europe and the EU.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Yeah, yeah, no, I mean they've got they got a
very strong but lobby groups over there. But I think
to say that, I think you just said that our
Irish farmers weren't happy or something to that effect. I
think that would be an absolute minority. And I think
the media always has the capability to sensation, Liz, And
we've seen this through this whole when there was an
(10:01):
alternate view to what we were proposing, it gets a
lot of media time, you know, it doesn't as you
saw that only reflected twelve percent of our suppliers, but
it was getting proportional media time to those that were
you know, we had eighty eight percent of the supply
that wanted yes. So so I think you've often got
to be careful with some of the statements that come
out in the media.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, but it's an opportunity for messaging to get out
there as well too.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Though. It's an opportunity for messaging to get out there,
but media will often try and sensationalize, which yeah, is fine,
that's that's yeah, let's say you sell elllier time or newspapers.
But I think there's a responsibility to also project the
majority feeling and reflect that view.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
To Andy Niall Brown, the boss of Dawn meets down
in the South yesterday. How was he received by the
farmers that met him?
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Oh, I think very well and really really genuine guy,
grassroots guy, great manner, but look, that's that's going to
be Niles. One of his roles will be to get
out and meet our farmers. And very early days, yet
he was obviously down for the vote. And look, there
was no there was no gimmy, there was there was
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no heads up on what it was going to be.
But obviously he would want to be there when you're
when you're looking at making that big an investment, you
want to be there to support whatever the decision was.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
So as far as over capacity, what did he have
to say about that, given it's an issue, Well, look
that's not.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
It's an issue that faces the industry and right now
it's we've clearly rationalized alliance for closing Smithfield to address
our capacity and our catchments, and we actually think we're
really well provisioned. So I can't comment on you know,
what that's going to look like for other companies, but
but there is sometimes you do have to take that
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responsibility and take the initiative and if it's the right
thing to do, you've got to be prepared to do it.
So that I imagine we will see some more closures
of plants, whether it's some in this immediate year, but
certainly that will be required.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Well we'll talk about of rugby because he came with you.
How are you to rap up? That's a Targo going
to win by ever Canbury. I think they're going to
do the job on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Look, yeah, look, it's going to be a really tough game.
I think you've just got a really strong Canibary team.
So a Targo will absolutely have to have to perform
to the best on the night. But you know a
lot of young players, a lot of a lot of
belief and a lot of excitement coming out of that team.
So yeah, look at it's a fifty to fifty game
to me, Andy, a.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Targo and unders for me, Howie Morrison, And there is
nothing ever sensationalist wise that occurs on the muster. You
only get it from the horse's mouth. We do appreciate
your time. All the best tailings have really good Andy,
appreciate that and look forward to the next next chime
to chat Don Morrison out in the wednessa afternoon trying
to get some tails lobbed off. Good luck. How are
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you won't need us? You're listening to the muster up
next from Craigs and Vest with partner's David Frame.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
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Speaker 1 (13:23):
David Frame joins us this afternoon from Craig's Investment Partners.
It's gonna call you Craig then, but it is David.
You work for CRAIG'SOP.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
Good afternon good afternoon, Andy. I get that along. I
get David Craig and Craig Daniel, I get all sorts
of names.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Tell me Craig David not a bad singer from the
early two thousand fantastic singer.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
Yeah, yeah, so I'll take that one. But you don't
look like them. Oh you haven't heard me sing?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Well, I'm not. I'm not judging your singing at all,
and I'm not going to judge your ability around accounting
and around figures as well finances. That's what Craig's IP does. Well,
we're trying to figure out this GDT auction last night,
but unfortunately it seems to have been a victim of
what happened around the s outage with Amazon from the
other day.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
Yeah, we both had a good look this morning. Can't
find the data for it. The Amazon outage was quite widespread,
so it obviously affected those guys as well. I don't
know if the auction went through or if it didn't.
We definitely can't see the results of it.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Right, oh, David. A subject that's pretty relevant for a
lot of farmers at the moment is they've come to
the realization that they no longer want to be on
the farm. These siblings don't want to be involved, so
they're thinking, well, perhaps it's time to get out of
the industry, and spring traditionally is the best time to
do it. Although arguably the weather isn't playing ball at
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the moment, it will come right eventually, I suppose.
Speaker 8 (14:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
Generally we see a lot of farms come on the
market right now, don't we. And I think this year
could be quite a large season for it. We've got
a lot of people wanting to retire, some have to
for health reasons, and then on the other side, I
think there'll be quite a bit of interest from buyers
this year.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
When you say bias a such, you're talking about sheep
farmers wanting to expand given the prices, although maybe not
so much when you think about the dairy sector side
of things.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
Well, I've got clients in both the dairy and the
sheep and beef, and the large ones seem to have
deep pockets and be quite impressed that things are coming right.
We know it's all moves in different seasons, but I
know people who are eyeing up their neighbors block if
it did come on the market, and it'll be interesting
to apply prices land this season.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
So your dairy clients in particular, you look at the
season they've had though and smashing goals all over the place. Yes,
the feed's a bit tight at the moment, but you
look at the price side of things, you're looking at
ten dollars the GDTs we talked to before. Not sure
what happened there, but still you're looking at ten bucks
in the interim, which is pretty done good loot it.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
Is, And those Fonterra shareholders are potentially getting a big
payout next year as well. So I think a lot
of people are thinking what do they do with their capital?
Do they expand? And we've seen that before with all
the runoff blocksport, you know, and over the last decade,
do they invest off farm, which is something we can
help them with.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
Or do they retire debt. So they've got some large.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
Decisions ahead of them, and so do the farm sellers.
There's a fair bit of capital that could be released
through selling farms, through the dairy payout, even the sheep payout's.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
Pretty good this year, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
The land price's great.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
No, it's looking good. And we talk about on farm inflation,
which has been a key driver of prices over the
last fee while. The price of inflation, though, do you
think that's going to set itself back to equilibrium next year? Perhaps?
Speaker 6 (16:40):
I would hope.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
So it sounds like New Zealand's inflation's heading back up
a little bit towards three percent, but that's manageable. So
inflation it can be a killer, as we saw a
couple of years ago. But I think the economy's coming
right after COVID, and I think we're slowly grinding out
of a terrible recession as a country.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
How long do we COVID for things? I mean, we
look at the state of the national books and it's
not flash And let's be honest, it comes back to
that spending into the billions. But when can we start
looking at the president thinking we've just got to move
with the times.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
Well, when I talk about the economy two or three
years ago, that inflation, those high interest rates, that was
fueled directly from the government spending and the COVID period,
and as time goes on that the effects of that
will receive so we will have less influence on the economy.
What we need for our country really is to get
back on our own two feet, grow the economy, get positive,
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start spending again.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
And the New Zealand dollar as well. It's dropped quite
a bit recently, especially against the quid against the UK pound.
I'll bring it up shortly, but it's certainly it's still
pretty unstable.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
I suppose it is, which is unusual because for the
last few years a lot of economists have said that
the US dollar would drop. The US dollar actually looks
pretty strong, their economy looks pretty good, the European economy
and even the UK looks okay. We seem to be
the lag art in that regard, and hence why our
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interest rate is falling and why our dollar is falling
against our relative trading partners as well.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Which is good for exporters.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I must add, is that a concern the way the
dollars just so, I don't know just swings and ebbs
and flows the way it does, or is that just
affecting New Zealand's trade.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
It's part of our trade and it actually helps us.
So if we're exporting offshore and our economy suffering through
intrast rates or low growth, then the lower dollar should
help get more dollars back for our exports. So it
should be like a natural shock absorber of swings in
the market.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
But back to the selling of farms anyway, David, Look,
you're advice to anybody who's looking at what to do
with a bit of money, if they've got it saved
up and they're thinking, well, what do we do? You know,
if you're a seller, you're going to have something to
look at for investment, you know, looking at your portfolio
going forward, or if you're a buyer, certain thing to
keep in the back of your mind.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
Right, Yes, well, i'd say approach to your professionals early.
We're in a good position where we can provide initial
advice free of charge, so people can come and have
a yarn. We quite often see farm sellers in particular
who put the farm on the market, work through the season,
it ends up selling, and then they've got a clearing sale.
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They have to move house and suddenly they've got a
world of work to do and they don't always have
a plan, which is quite sad. So you know, if
they came in early, they can have a chat. We
can go out to the farm or and have a
chat if they're too busy to come into town, and
then we could give them an option to consider and
there's no cost to that, and then they can run
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that through with their accountant or their loved ones and
come up with a plan before the farm sells. Because
I know that it's quite a major event to sell
a farm move off farm. It tugs at the heartstrings.
You're not necessarily going to enjoy it, and a home
for your money is probably the last thing you're thinking
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of is even walking out the door, but it's probably
one of the most important things for the next ten
or twenty years.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
So if people want to get in touch with the
team at Craig's Investment Partners, the best.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
Way just come into our office at one twenty Main
Street and Gore or find us online at craigsip dot com.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Good on you, David. Always good to catch up. Thanks Andy,
David Frame of Craig's Investment Partners here and Gor. You're
listening to the muster up next with Deary and Zed.
Veronica rust Fine, welcome back to the muster for Veronica
(20:48):
Usferd of darien Z joins us next. Veronica, Good afternoon
on what is a rather wendy wet I once.
Speaker 9 (20:55):
Again, Yeah, hi Andy, how are you?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
They're pretty good, But we're just we look at the
big situation, the bigger picture, if you will, regarding feed
situations at the moment, feed deficits are occurring. I suppose
it's a good chance, from your guys' perspective of Deary
and Z just to reiterate some options that are available
for farmers at the moment because they might need it.
Speaker 9 (21:16):
Yeah, it's pretty chop and changey out there right now
with the decisions out on farm. Like I know, last
week it was looking like we were kind of coming right.
Grass was growing, soil temps might have been probably trying
to go up.
Speaker 10 (21:30):
I know there was people mowing.
Speaker 9 (21:32):
We were taking out sila, so that was really really positive,
and now this week's you know, it's kind of been
the other way around, where people are putting solage back in,
we're stopping mowing. Yeah, it looks like growth rates have
kind of gone back down again, so soil tempts have
kind of maintained around that nine degrees.
Speaker 10 (21:50):
So what are we going to do to help.
Speaker 9 (21:53):
Us out on farm when our feed budgets, you know,
we're not sorry when we're not putting in we're not
getting cultivation done, we're.
Speaker 10 (22:01):
Not putting grass in our feed budgets.
Speaker 9 (22:03):
What are those going to look like through the summer
with not having that grass coming through? So, yeah, it
would just be good right now to kind of sit
down just kind of collect where you're at in your
feed budget and what you kind of have planned for
the next three months to get you through mating.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
We all remember bank to July and especially until the
middle of August, carving was an absolute dream. But we
fast forward, we're looking at production levels. We're around the
time of pink milk as well, which is intriguing to
say the least, given that the situation is the way
it is. So it's a matter of trying to team
a production with grass growth.
Speaker 9 (22:37):
Yeah, exactly, And you know, like I've heard, I've heard
people that have hit balance date already, others that still
haven't hit it and they were meant to hit it
three weeks ago. So I mean it's very situational to
your stocking rate obviously and where you are geographically with
what the growth rates are, and also just how much
feed you're putting in. Probably something that I do want
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to bring up is like around that feed budgeting and
looking forward to the future and what we're kind of
predicting for this season. So in September, we updated our
e Contractor tool to show that this season will probably
have a break even milk price of for forecasted to
have a break even milk priced in South Lend for
owner operators at eight dollars seventy four. So probably just
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keep that in mind when we're doing our feed budgeting,
and we've got some tools there to look at that
for the cost of feed, like our feed Checker calculator,
where you can kind of look through your requirements of
the feed that you're putting in and the cost breakdown
of those going in.
Speaker 10 (23:35):
And then probably something else just to look at and be.
Speaker 9 (23:37):
Mindful of is like when you are doing that peak
milking and trying to feed those cows and coming into mating,
who's like the bottom ten percent that you're maybe not
going to mate off of and maybe just doing some
scenarios in what it looks like to call those early
versus keeping them in milking them through the season. So yeah,
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just being mindful of, you know, stocking rate. We're not
putting stuff on the ground on time. If we're not,
what are we doing to kind of balance the sheet
a little bit?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I mentioned this is Nathan last week talking about supplement levels,
but we see the situation the way there hasn't really
got any warmer at least keep things in perspective, right,
it'll be sooner than later that we are going to
get a growth explosion. But at the moment, if you
need to get supplement levels, you need to buy some
feed in you just got to do it.
Speaker 10 (24:27):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 9 (24:29):
And like I said, you can use that supplement price calculator.
I think Nathan might have talked about that last week,
just to look at what.
Speaker 10 (24:36):
Your margin on your feed is going to be.
Speaker 9 (24:38):
But remembering that's just a point in time perspective, that's
not a season perspective, to get more of a season
perspective approach in costs that would be more that feed
checker calculator.
Speaker 10 (24:51):
And then also to get that.
Speaker 9 (24:54):
Kind of three months or seasonal look at feed quantities
like meeting demand on cows that would be more or
of like our simple feed budget to go in there
and put in how much feed you're putting in, how
much pasture you have to see that you're meeting the
requirements of the cows, because yeah, obviously we want fully
fed cows all year, especially in peak milk.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
So you're encouraging people to get in touch with the
tall you with deary and zid if they've got any
concerns Vernica, Oh.
Speaker 9 (25:20):
Absolutely, yep, get in touch with us, Get in touch
with all your experts. To be honest, I had a
great conversation this morning with someone who like just lifting
off to me all their experts that they use in
their business.
Speaker 10 (25:31):
Yeah, like reach out to every single one of them
on each one.
Speaker 9 (25:35):
Like it's about having that big toolbox of people and
each person can can play a huge part in bringing
expert advice to your business.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
And the sam will come out tomorrow. That's the big thing.
To realize around this.
Speaker 10 (25:46):
Yeah, yeah, it'll come. It'll come around the corner Southland.
We'll get you down, but she won't keep you down.
So yeah, and everyone else is in the same boat.
Speaker 9 (25:54):
So reach out to your neighbors, reach out to other people,
find out what they're doing. We've got a lot of
dis Russian groups going on right now, so that's a
good place to kind of touch base with people.
Speaker 10 (26:03):
So check out our events page to see where those are.
Speaker 9 (26:07):
And yeah, just just get in contact with each other
and find out what we're doing to kind of get
over this.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
This what October.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Some people just love that saying veronicas fin a diary
and ZD always appreciate your time.
Speaker 11 (26:18):
Oh thanks Andy, cheers Veronica us Fine out of Derry
in z before the end of the year were Warren Ross.
But up next to Change of Tech Craig Sinclear talking
about changes to the recycling system regarding the Gordistry Council.
(26:58):
Welcome back, this is the mast Craig Sinclair of Gore
District Council. Here has lead to sustainability in waste management.
We're talking about recycling. You may have noticed in the
Gore region in.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Particular, they've changed the way that we're going about doing
the rubbish pickup, which stems back to three, two or
three years ago now probably even longer. Craig's notting, so
I'm not too far wrong. He'll fill this in on
that shortly. It Craig, good to catch up.
Speaker 8 (27:23):
Good Andy, how are you or.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
In the studio. I'm looking outside and it's warmer in
here that it is out there. But that one issue
that is affecting a lot of people at the moment though,
Craig has been the recycling here in the Gore region
being told we can only put glass in a yellow bin.
But all of a sudden we've gone back to the
old system. Like Southern District Council enjoys what's changed.
Speaker 8 (27:44):
Okay, So council decided earlier this year that would go
back to full recycling. So full recycling includes cardboard, your plastics, one,
two and five glass bottles are included as well en cans,
aluminum cans and tin cans, so people will be able
to put them into the yellow bins again and put
them out on the curb side. That's going to start
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on the week of the third of November. But the
first actual collection of recycling will be for the North
Gore area on the fifth of November and then we'll
go week about, so one week will be your red
waste bin and then the next week will be a
yellow recycling bin.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
So why are we changed again? Why have you gone
away from just this glass approach for the recycling.
Speaker 8 (28:26):
Well, we are having to minimize as much waste as
we can. So a number of years ago the government
just put in a waste minimization levey, which started off
at a low rate. It is now sixty five dollars
a ton. That council has to pay in a levy
for every ton of waste that we send to land
for and Gore district sends around seven and a half
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thousand ton of years, so if you do the maths
on that, it's quite a considerable amount of money we
can save if we can get people recycling better.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
So the reason the South and District Council has been
doing the recycling all the way through. What's the difference there.
Speaker 8 (29:03):
I'm not sure exactly why Gore District pulled out of it,
but there was a decision of council probably two councils ago,
that decided not to carry on with a full recycling
we're getting.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
We're starting to see a little bit of change. That's
when it comes down.
Speaker 8 (29:15):
To exactly, we're going back to what we used to
do because it's more sustainable and we can save money
by taking waste out of the waste stream.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
So as far as rural folk around the Gore region,
what change is there?
Speaker 8 (29:29):
Not a lot for them. Pakiki Lines will still be
doing what they do up at their factory up on
How can we drive there so you can drop your cardboards,
your milk bottles. They enjoy milk bottles because they're getting
a good price for them at the moment. Cans for
milk bottles, plastic milk bottles, Yeah, it's one of the
good commodities at the moment. Why is that, I don't know.
(29:50):
Recycling is a pretty fickle market, you know, and it's
up and down and it seems to be something that's
paying its way at the moment. That and aluminium cans.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
So we can expect to see plastic milk bottles on
the stock.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
Exchange maybe who knows any So.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Okay, we look at the situation in general just regarding
rubbish just not for good for Southland? Is it in
a healthy state at the moment as much as it
can be as far as management.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
So we have waste Net which is a shared service
of the three councils, and waste Net is a means
of managing the contract for our general waste across South
and so we have one company at the moment that
does all that general waste, which is Waistcoat. They manage
all the contracts and it's a cheaper way for the
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three councils to come together and manage waste together rather
than singly.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
So it's a collaborative approach, very collaborative approach.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Are you trying to convince people? Are you having what
I should say or rephrase that. Are you are you
convincing rural people that stuff doesn't exist in a forty
four gallon drummer a deadhole. Now, when it comes to
getting rid of.
Speaker 8 (30:58):
Stuff, that is a challenge. I mean, we have been
doing those things for many years and we all know
what used to go in dead holes, and we all
know what used to go and what people used to
call dumps, you know, city dumps or town dumps. We
refer to them as transfer stations. Now we only have
one landfill in South and that's ab lime and they
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do a great job of capturing gas and bits and
pieces and generating electricity and it's amazing system. So we
don't actually dump waste any more at our transfer stations.
You know, we're getting trying to get people to be
better about what they put into the waste system, splitting
it into its components. Scrap metal, send it to the
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scrap deal, get a bit of money out of it,
Aluminum cans, a same plastics, you know, recycling them cardboard,
putting it back through the system again. And if we
can do that, we're going to save some money on
our waste minimization levy.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
So using the word dump is frowned upon almost.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
Almost, yeah, because it's an old connotation. You know, we
used to throw in there everything, you know, And if
we were to dig up old landfills around Southland, I'm
sure there'll be some wonderful things found in the bottom
of them, as we would find in dead holes around Southland.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
And on the other side of it as well, though,
we're seeing a lot of people cray going around picking
up all those old cans and the likes of those
containers that contain chemicals from days gone past. So and
if the message is getting.
Speaker 8 (32:26):
Out there all we say definitely, especially in the rural
community with the egg recovery. And you've got CMC recycling
out at pocate Our as well, you know, collecting plastics
and bits and pieces too, so you know there are
options out there and the.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Habits are changing for rural New Zealand just on a
whole day you talk about for sure.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
Yeap and markets requiring it, so you know, we've got
to be smarter about the way we do things.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
So there's money and rubbish.
Speaker 8 (32:50):
Well i'd like to think so, but I haven't seen
it yet.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
We'll get this seeded later. So just to reiterate again,
the yellow bin now is from next time it goes
out won't just be glass, but it's going.
Speaker 8 (33:02):
To be plastics, cardboard, paper, paper, yep. So your plastics
one too and five only you know there are some
plastics we can't recycle. So if you're doing some plumbing
and you've got an old piece of plastic pipe that
you've cut off an end, it's no good to go
into your recycling. It's going to go into your red
bin unfortunately. So yep, we can do those things and
tins and cans.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
So recycling Week. I see the posters up out here.
Trainers been hot under the collar to keep everything so
we're aware of what's going on. So that's two weeks away.
Speaker 8 (33:32):
Yes, it is, yep, third of November. Start week, the
first collection of recycling. They will be the fifth that
so those that pick up on the Wednesday, so we'll
do the whole contract. Will be two red bins in
a week and two yellow bins in a week, and
then it will alternate into the next week. So you
have a red bin, yellow bin, red bin, yellow bin.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Right, so there's clarity around that. No good to know, Craig. Hey,
thanks for coming in. Hopefully the sun shines sooner than later.
So you've brought you in the middle of June almost.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
Day it is, and the forecast for tomorrow doesn't look
that flash either, Andy, So let's just hope it's not
as bad as they're expecting.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Yeah, let's just focus on the present. Hey, thanks for
coming in and clarifying things.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Thanks.
Speaker 8 (34:11):
Andy's been great talking.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Craig Saint Claire from the Gore District Council where he
is leading sustainability around waste management. Heah the old forty
four gallon drum or the bum drum. I mean there
are other options there. Go and for some stuff. At
the Pekiki Lions. They doing awesome jobs. They'll shout out
to the team be Downd there doing fantastic work up
next before we finish up Warren Ross Farming at way Mumu.
(34:39):
Time welcome back to the muster the song Deady Smash.
Iall look for Thursday. It will be interesting considering the
way the weather is at the moment. But look, all
things considered, it is that time of the year to
think about the Rams for next season. The five View
Ram Open Day is happening next Thursday, October the thirtieth,
from one pm onwards eight Whitehood or Westrodia at Lawrence.
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You'll find Rodney's, Rodney Texalls and SAFF Techs on display.
Take the AVO off heavy and check out the whole
far View operation as well. That's Hamish and the team
there with their fave youe RAM Open Day, Thursday October
the thirtieth. As we go and catch up with Warren
Ross Farming at Wai Mumu our fishing gury here on
the mustard as well.
Speaker 9 (35:21):
Well.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Good afternoon, but straight off the cuff won't be too
much freshing this weekend and Tiyan. Now the competition, the
fishing comp which has been going for eighteen nine years,
has been postponed.
Speaker 12 (35:31):
Yeah, Aflue Andy, Yeah, no, he has been asty. So
I read that last night that they're talking about it,
and ye came across the news this morning that they
have cancel. It's a it's a bit of a shame,
but I guess THINKI comes first, and.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
That's pretty much what it comes down to. You look
at the driftwood that's around the edge of the lake
front and what you can't do much about. It's just
mother Nature's not playing ball. Just whoever you speak to,
you know.
Speaker 12 (35:54):
And there'll be logs on the lake as well, they
haven't reached the shore yet and also carry on. And
but they're all talking another quite a few meals, like
an inch twenty five or thirty five miles from the
next few days for particularly, but that's probably going to
get more on the on the hills and on the divide.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
So how are you.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Faring on the farm? There is that we said it
way moment.
Speaker 12 (36:14):
And that's not so we can actually be feared. We've
had a fish here of rain. But with these ones
we've been getting has certainly been drawing the ground at
time pretty quick afterwards.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
So you're managing to get the iron horse out under
the peeddic, get some firees turned over.
Speaker 12 (36:29):
No, absolutely, so I haven't had the play on the ground,
but you're sort of ripping ground up and rolling it
deck down and and spreading hay clumps around and so no,
it's not just chipping away. We haven't planned anything yet.
But I don't get carried away fit until until on
November any house, I do believe. I do have seen
some beat planners getting around in trying to plant some
(36:50):
full of beat and some pieces. But yeah, I just
I just giant you wait, uh wait, wait till November.
Before I get carried away.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
I need to catch up with Ben Dooley who's talking
the other day about getting grass and on the likes,
and I'm thinking, well, it's on the ground, but you're
just going to wait for it to grow. Now. Sometimes
you're just got to be careful what you wish for.
Speaker 12 (37:07):
Yeah, that's right, you know, and we've done it in
the past, and you know, you get a pretty good
strike but not super great, so we generally wait till years,
wait till November and or early December for grass and yeah,
and you know Saltimbers is a lot warmer and more
said all and yeah, and that's what we tend to do.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
So you wouldn't say your rainfall is any different to
other years. It's just been unseasonably cold and windy.
Speaker 12 (37:28):
Ah, well, I think September is probably well up on
the well above beverage. October hasn't been so bad, I guess.
But you know, we're just the winds. We haven't had
the wines we've been getting now for a number of years,
I guess, so yeah, but you know, so we're sitting
all right.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
And everybody's saying the same thing about the wind. It
just makes you feel grumpy.
Speaker 12 (37:48):
Oh, grumpy and tired. And it's just the same evening
you do so much hadder, you know, that's right. This
weekend will help.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
So how the stop looking at the moment or the
fake conditions as well? Are you coping?
Speaker 6 (38:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (38:00):
No, We've got plenty of feed achually on the d
unit or across the board too, to be fair. And
I'm just shifting mob a kettle as we speak this morning.
And yeah, they're all looking pretty good. So there's plenty
of thing in front of us and the unit probably
biggest chills now will be to keep the feed under control,
to be honest, sir. But that's what they're or the
or the kettle for.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
So the venison schedule, though we've talked before about these
eleven dollar contracts, everything's still pretty tickety boo in that department.
Speaker 12 (38:26):
Yeah, how far as the weird is yet now, So
we've got a few more to kill next week actually,
so the one hundred guns will gone away to the work.
So you know, we're chipping away in here yealing healing
stacks pretty quickly really, so they come along, come along
quite nicely.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
So the deer is thriving at the moment.
Speaker 12 (38:40):
I seem to be doing all right. Yeah, I just
and I also had to move a mother wavering stacks
but closer to the sheet for tomorrow morning. So that's uh,
we will start velving tomorrow actually, so uh well on
the on the mix, sage stacks nor things. It's come
along pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Really does velvetig good job. You look forward to, you look.
Speaker 12 (38:57):
Forward to at the start, and then when you get
in to January year, yeah, which you weren't doing it.
And by the time you get to the last of
the regrowth and the last of the sparkers, and even
sparkers grow right through to February and then you miss one.
Godly gosh, we're gonna go get it, get them in
and get another half a dozen done or something happened, Yeah,
by January in the January year over it.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
So it's more or less the next three months that
are taken over, taken out, taken out.
Speaker 12 (39:20):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much absolutely between we've got five hundred
staves and three hundred the alternative leaving stakes left. Yeah,
between them and them and them. It's yeah, full con job.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Really as far as there's a lines do your will?
What do you make of it?
Speaker 12 (39:36):
Well, something had to happen and I can't carry on
doing what they've been doing, I believe, and have a
discussion with someone last night actually, and farmers could just
be help them out again. What's going to happen in
three years time when they ask for pass the farmers
for more money, you know, And I believe until they
(39:58):
change something in the house in the way of consider
elating or so forth, nothing actually really going to change,
if you know what I mean, and so I think
it's weird, it's a good thing or not. I'm sure
I didn't want to see it go over offshore, but
the reality is that, Yeah, the other ones with the money, well.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
There was a business decision if I didn't do that.
The banks are wanting money and a lot of it
and not that long a time away.
Speaker 12 (40:23):
Yeah, in a very very short time correct, So the
alternative was basically and broken.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Suppose well, any farmers you speak to her involved with
the lions, what are their thoughts been.
Speaker 12 (40:34):
I haven't been talking to me. How people better if
you're out, But there's been mostly a bit of mixed,
mixed feelings about it. I guess most of them are
sort of corner like me. It's sort of on the
fence a little bit. They want to see it go sure,
but something that's going to have to has to happen,
has to change, and yeah, this is where we're at.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Yeah, A great way to look at it, mate, How
are all the best over the weekend? Take your brolly
with you and we'll catch up again. Always good to
catch up a you know, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
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Speaker 4 (42:00):
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Speaker 8 (42:00):
Heable there and where did it go on?
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Again? For c did you.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Write some present stock selling actions that occurred at the
Bell Cluther sale yards this morning? So Russell Maloney is
on the line to fill us in on hell price
this week. Good afternoon, Russell, Are we still seeing these
good prices for red meat?
Speaker 13 (42:14):
Yes, good afternoon, Andy, Good afternoon listeners. Yeah, look it's
still very strong prices right across the board. A very
windy day down here at Belle Cluther, but it sounds
like it's right across the Tago south and probably just
about everywhere. This wind is just driving people a little
bit mad. But look, price is still very very steady
down here at the bell Cluther saleyards will all be
(42:35):
a very small yarding, probably the smallest yarding with head
in a while. But I'll run you through a few
prices to get started. So you prim lambs stall with
lambs teeth, so these are last years lambs, but with
lambs teeth around at two fifty to three hundred dollars,
mark mediums two hundred to two forty and the light
around lamb around one hundred and fifty to two hundred dollars.
But we had no store lambs in today, which is
(42:57):
you know a reminder that we're into next season now
and these hoggits probably have done their dash, so we'll
skip over them. But we move on to the US again.
Strong demand for cal us or wet dry us that
are coming out of the woodwork. There large views making
one eighty to two hundred and twenty dollars, mediums one
fifty to one seventy. And look, as I mentioned the
(43:18):
quality yarding today, we had no light use in so
I will not give you a price there. What we
are wanting is said a few hoggits are cutting teeth.
As they have cut teeth, you can sort of expect
around that one hundred and twenty to one hundred and
fifty dollars for them.
Speaker 11 (43:32):
Down at the yards.
Speaker 13 (43:34):
Col rams again a few starting to come out as well,
col rams making big heavy rams around the eighty to
ninety dollars and smaller stuff around that forty to fifty.
Just a few notes here. Next week we do have
the velpers that kettle sale next Wednesday, the twenty ninth
of October. So if you got any kettle you want
to sell or you're looking at buying with that weaver
(43:54):
of grass that's coming along, please come down to the
Belkers the Saleyards on Wednesday, the twenty ninth of October.
And we are also tuning up towards the time of
year where we start talking rams. So we've got the
water Huna ram open day. That's long Ridge Genetics which
is munbane and five EU Genetics which is Hamish fuelwood.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
So running an.
Speaker 13 (44:13):
Open day on Thursday, the Thudy of October. One thing onwards.
So if you're looking at maybe changing up your n breed,
please get along to those open days and heavy we
nosy And.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
A reminder from Sam Riley as well, there is no
long bull sale next week Russell, due to it being
the long week end. I'll throw it. Throw that on there.
Speaker 13 (44:29):
That is great, you know, good to to point there
in it as well and look at tip of the week.
No horses this week. But let's get up I targo away.
What a great way to see you see that long
weekend you I suppose on Saturday, So get up a targo,
let's go boards in and n how did.
Speaker 6 (44:44):
It go on again?
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Tom,
Time to catch up with Nathan Abernethy at a regional
Ford who was busy last week? Will you always catch your man?
Good afternoon, Nathan.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
You get it, Andy, And yeah, it was a busy week.
I'm sorry I wasn't with you on Friday. But we're
here today and another pretty ordinary day it is out there,
but luckily we've got a good showroom. It's nice and
warming here. We've got it full of new cars, plenty
of used cars out here at the moment, so a
lot of really neat stuff coming in at the moment. Andy,
But I've got to say that it is really really busy.
There's a lot of good secondhand cars that are going out.
(00:28):
But look, we've still got plenty of fort Everest coming
in at the moment. We've got next Gen, which is
the latest model fort Everest out on the yard here secondhand,
and we've got the model before as well, a few
fort Everst Titanium and a few sport models out there.
All seven theaters. We've got three to be six diesels
and we've got two liter twin turbo diesel there as well.
(00:51):
Plenty of good Ford Rangers coming through as well as
other brands. We've got high lacks out here. We've got Mitsubishi,
we've got hold in Colorado and a bit of everything else.
The team are on board.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
We're here to do deals.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
We've got our business manager Cody here and he can
sort the finance for you. Come in and see us,
and we like to make things very very easy. So yeah,
come in and see us if you've got time, and
we'll pick up the phone and give us a call.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Good only night catch up.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
So thank you Andy, good afternoon.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
And welcome to the muster on Hakanui. I'm Andy. You're
here until two o'clock thanks to Peters and NEDLX. Thanks
for your company and yet another gray afternoon here and
gore sound like a breaking record, but that's just what
the weather's doing at the moment. Not that I need
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breezy to Bristol or westerlies forming four and twelve, and
Sunday showers of breezy west northwesterlyes four and twelve. Yet again,
so temperatures to hand northern south for nine point three,
Riveton eleven, tat Our nine point eight, Tittoro A nine
point one, Winton and Woodland's both nine point three as
we start the yewl with Don Morrison, willow Bank farmer
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and Alliance Board director twenty four hours on the announcement
regarding the collaboration of Alliance Group with Dawn Meets Buying
in has been finalized through a vote and overwhelmingly so.
David Frame from Craig's Investment Partners is on the program
for veronica OUs Fine from dairy en Z Craig Saint
Clair from the gord District Council. We're having changes to
(02:58):
the rubbish yes again, hearing god, I want to say
yet again. This happened a couple of years ago regarding
the red and yellow bin. So courageous because some clarification
about what's actually going on there regarding the bin situation
down here in Gore. And to wrap up the hour,
Warren Ross, who farms at Wai Mumu. Of course we're
getting a stock style report from Balcluther courtesy of Warwick.
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How not Warwick courtesy of Russell Maloney and the team
at PGG writes. And then we start the hour with
Don Morrison. This is the Muster Roun two two o'clock
thanks to better genetics. Don Morrison starts us off this
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afternoon on the Muster willow Bank farmer and Allianceport director.
How are we good afternoon? How things?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Oh kill Indian? You've given me another good leading with
some stave dobbin and d D smash. That's a great sound.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I seriously contemplated giving you Jefferson starships just so you
could tell your story for Lucky once again, we've.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Heard that enough times and so we'll go to some
day jovin story, shall we. So HC is playing right
and Monica in March, which would be well worth going
and seeing that comfort.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
No, absolutely, when you get these concerts come around, how
you can't really knock them back, Just like the proposal
with Dawn Meets wasn't knocked back overwhelming vote in favor
of Dawn Meats getting involved with Alliance. I suppose initially
for twenty four hours on. From your perspective, it's probably
one of relief that this has gone through right.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Well, Look, I think it's probably recognition of a lot
of hard work done by a lot of people in
the whole process of putting the best deal forward for
what we needed to do, and then in delivering the
message with twenty four road shows to all our shareholders,
you know, virtual webinars. There's a whole lot of work
(04:54):
from some really really good people going behind that. And
I think what we saw through the whole thing was
edible leadership from Billy Visa and our CEO and Mark
one cheer of the board. I think it was some
outstanding leadership to the galvanized people and galvanize the message.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, it's interesting to bring that up how he's saying
the leaderships galvanize the message. But the argument offer is
that the leadership hasn't been there over the last five, six,
seven years with the organization.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Look, we've been pretty strong in the in the messaging
that we've been putting out. More recently, we had a
we had a bit of a change of regime on
the on the board and the tier, and we just
said we would be more transparent. We know we weren't
as transparent as we needed to be and cheerholders needed
to understand where we were and where we're going and
why we are where we are. So certainly that last
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two years we believe we've been already transparent. You know,
it's interesting and its people. We have brief bites we have.
We have road shows where webinears to some people that
don't go or look at any of them and then say,
how you're not communicating, so I will throw it back.
There's a bit of response ability on both sides. We've
got to give opportunity to get the message out and
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people have got to take that opportunity to learn where
we are.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
But the messaging on the other foot as well, how
we go into these meetings and listening to farmers is
one of frustration too.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
And as come again, Andy, you were saying the message
from farmers was frustration.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah, absolutely, listening to farmers at the meeting and Gorse
saying this option had to go through because they were
just frustrated from the leadership angle over the last five
to six seven years. And obviously it wasn't Mark or
Willy's problem, but they inherited it.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Oh look, I don't think you can blame any one
particular regime, but what it is is it's previous and
success of boards decisions that have made or weren't made.
I mean, can we can analyze them in Hindsight's great,
we've all got twenty twenty vision on hindsights. And you know,
looking back, there was certainly clear that we as a board,
we we didn't have a mechanism to capitalize our balance sheet.
(06:56):
And there's two ways you do that. Andy, you do
that through retained earnings through profits, and with a twenty
million dollar average profit over the over the last ten
years from a company with a two billion dollar plus
turnover but worth similar levels of tapex going out, there
was not a chance to do that through retained earnings.
(07:16):
And your only other mechanism is through shareholders investing. And
two things I think historically, you know, shareholders have been
more interested in schedule and competitive pricing, and you know,
there's been a lot of criticism that we weren't there
so it's so I think market share would have been
very vulnerable if you tried to take funds off your shareholders,
(07:39):
and certainly in the last process with Canvas, we tried
and the message was how we would prefer to put
that money back into our farms, and that was a
clean message we got.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So what changes for the Alliance group after yesterday's announcement?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
So Alliance carries on as Alliance, albeit with a different ownership.
But what you've got is all we've got a strong
balance sheet which allows us to invest and operate in
a way that we believe we can be far more,
far stronger on pricing because we're going to be able
citizens to get stronger prices in the market, going to
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different channels and operating in a different way. So that's
the important But and not beholding to that working capital
limit that was there from the bank. But certainly it
is a bigger breath the company now andy with with
that doorn Meat partnership, with access to fifty two week
access for grassbead animal supply, new access into markets that
(08:39):
we went as strong in access with our joint Ventorshire partner,
door meets and markets that we are really strong and
a lot of knowledge to be gained from their operation
around processing efficiencies that we can learn from them and
they can learn from us. So I would say it's
actually a really exciting time as a farmer to be
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looking to supply your animals to Alliance over these next years,
and particularly when we're in probably one of the strongest
supply markets that we've we've ever been in with their
with their pricing at the moment.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Now you're hearing that Irish farmers who supplied dawn meats
aren't that chuffed about this going through, and you can
understand that as well.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Andy, I think you really when you say something like that,
you've got to understand the scale of of any criticism.
Is it one farmer, is it two farmers? You know
we've seen through them.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Let's just UK farming on a hold out the moment.
The Red Tractor movement, for example, being very parochial towards
your own considering the situation through Europe and the EU.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Yeah, yeah, no, I mean they've got they got a
very strong but lobby groups over there. But I think
to say that, I think you just said that our
Irish farmers weren't happy or something to that effect. I
think that would be an absolute minority. And I think
the media always has the capability to sensation, Liz, And
we've seen this through this whole when there was an
(10:01):
alternate view to what we were proposing, it gets a
lot of media time, you know, it doesn't as you
saw that only reflected twelve percent of our suppliers, but
it was getting proportional media time to those that were
you know, we had eighty eight percent of the supply
that wanted yes. So so I think you've often got
to be careful with some of the statements that come
out in the media.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, but it's an opportunity for messaging to get out
there as well too.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Though. It's an opportunity for messaging to get out there,
but media will often try and sensationalize, which yeah, is fine,
that's that's yeah, let's say you sell elllier time or newspapers.
But I think there's a responsibility to also project the
majority feeling and reflect that view.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
To Andy Niall Brown, the boss of Dawn meets down
in the South yesterday. How was he received by the
farmers that met him?
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Oh, I think very well and really really genuine guy,
grassroots guy, great manner, but look, that's that's going to
be Niles. One of his roles will be to get
out and meet our farmers. And very early days, yet
he was obviously down for the vote. And look, there
was no there was no gimmy, there was there was
(11:12):
no heads up on what it was going to be.
But obviously he would want to be there when you're
when you're looking at making that big an investment, you
want to be there to support whatever the decision was.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
So as far as over capacity, what did he have
to say about that, given it's an issue, Well, look
that's not.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
It's an issue that faces the industry and right now
it's we've clearly rationalized alliance for closing Smithfield to address
our capacity and our catchments, and we actually think we're
really well provisioned. So I can't comment on you know,
what that's going to look like for other companies, but
but there is sometimes you do have to take that
(11:51):
responsibility and take the initiative and if it's the right
thing to do, you've got to be prepared to do it.
So that I imagine we will see some more closures
of plants, whether it's some in this immediate year, but
certainly that will be required.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Well we'll talk about of rugby because he came with you.
How are you to rap up? That's a Targo going
to win by ever Canbury. I think they're going to
do the job on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Look, yeah, look, it's going to be a really tough game.
I think you've just got a really strong Canibary team.
So a Targo will absolutely have to have to perform
to the best on the night. But you know a
lot of young players, a lot of a lot of
belief and a lot of excitement coming out of that team.
So yeah, look at it's a fifty to fifty game
to me, Andy, a.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Targo and unders for me, Howie Morrison, And there is
nothing ever sensationalist wise that occurs on the muster. You
only get it from the horse's mouth. We do appreciate
your time. All the best tailings have really good Andy,
appreciate that and look forward to the next next chime
to chat Don Morrison out in the wednessa afternoon trying
to get some tails lobbed off. Good luck. How are
(12:56):
you won't need us? You're listening to the muster up
next from Craigs and Vest with partner's David Frame.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
The Muster financial segment brought to you by Craig's Investment
Partner's GOT. This information is general in nature and is
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Speaker 1 (13:23):
David Frame joins us this afternoon from Craig's Investment Partners.
It's gonna call you Craig then, but it is David.
You work for CRAIG'SOP.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
Good afternon good afternoon, Andy. I get that along. I
get David Craig and Craig Daniel, I get all sorts
of names.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Tell me Craig David not a bad singer from the
early two thousand fantastic singer.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
Yeah, yeah, so I'll take that one. But you don't
look like them. Oh you haven't heard me sing?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Well, I'm not. I'm not judging your singing at all,
and I'm not going to judge your ability around accounting
and around figures as well finances. That's what Craig's IP does. Well,
we're trying to figure out this GDT auction last night,
but unfortunately it seems to have been a victim of
what happened around the s outage with Amazon from the
other day.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
Yeah, we both had a good look this morning. Can't
find the data for it. The Amazon outage was quite widespread,
so it obviously affected those guys as well. I don't
know if the auction went through or if it didn't.
We definitely can't see the results of it.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Right, oh, David. A subject that's pretty relevant for a
lot of farmers at the moment is they've come to
the realization that they no longer want to be on
the farm. These siblings don't want to be involved, so
they're thinking, well, perhaps it's time to get out of
the industry, and spring traditionally is the best time to
do it. Although arguably the weather isn't playing ball at
(14:40):
the moment, it will come right eventually, I suppose.
Speaker 8 (14:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
Generally we see a lot of farms come on the
market right now, don't we. And I think this year
could be quite a large season for it. We've got
a lot of people wanting to retire, some have to
for health reasons, and then on the other side, I
think there'll be quite a bit of interest from buyers
this year.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
When you say bias a such, you're talking about sheep
farmers wanting to expand given the prices, although maybe not
so much when you think about the dairy sector side
of things.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
Well, I've got clients in both the dairy and the
sheep and beef, and the large ones seem to have
deep pockets and be quite impressed that things are coming right.
We know it's all moves in different seasons, but I
know people who are eyeing up their neighbors block if
it did come on the market, and it'll be interesting
to apply prices land this season.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
So your dairy clients in particular, you look at the
season they've had though and smashing goals all over the place. Yes,
the feed's a bit tight at the moment, but you
look at the price side of things, you're looking at
ten dollars the GDTs we talked to before. Not sure
what happened there, but still you're looking at ten bucks
in the interim, which is pretty done good loot it.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
Is, And those Fonterra shareholders are potentially getting a big
payout next year as well. So I think a lot
of people are thinking what do they do with their capital?
Do they expand? And we've seen that before with all
the runoff blocksport, you know, and over the last decade,
do they invest off farm, which is something we can
help them with.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
Or do they retire debt. So they've got some large.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
Decisions ahead of them, and so do the farm sellers.
There's a fair bit of capital that could be released
through selling farms, through the dairy payout, even the sheep payout's.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
Pretty good this year, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
The land price's great.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
No, it's looking good. And we talk about on farm inflation,
which has been a key driver of prices over the
last fee while. The price of inflation, though, do you
think that's going to set itself back to equilibrium next year? Perhaps?
Speaker 6 (16:40):
I would hope.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
So it sounds like New Zealand's inflation's heading back up
a little bit towards three percent, but that's manageable. So
inflation it can be a killer, as we saw a
couple of years ago. But I think the economy's coming
right after COVID, and I think we're slowly grinding out
of a terrible recession as a country.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
How long do we COVID for things? I mean, we
look at the state of the national books and it's
not flash And let's be honest, it comes back to
that spending into the billions. But when can we start
looking at the president thinking we've just got to move
with the times.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
Well, when I talk about the economy two or three
years ago, that inflation, those high interest rates, that was
fueled directly from the government spending and the COVID period,
and as time goes on that the effects of that
will receive so we will have less influence on the economy.
What we need for our country really is to get
back on our own two feet, grow the economy, get positive,
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start spending again.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
And the New Zealand dollar as well. It's dropped quite
a bit recently, especially against the quid against the UK pound.
I'll bring it up shortly, but it's certainly it's still
pretty unstable.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
I suppose it is, which is unusual because for the
last few years a lot of economists have said that
the US dollar would drop. The US dollar actually looks
pretty strong, their economy looks pretty good, the European economy
and even the UK looks okay. We seem to be
the lag art in that regard, and hence why our
(18:08):
interest rate is falling and why our dollar is falling
against our relative trading partners as well.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Which is good for exporters.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I must add, is that a concern the way the
dollars just so, I don't know just swings and ebbs
and flows the way it does, or is that just
affecting New Zealand's trade.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
It's part of our trade and it actually helps us.
So if we're exporting offshore and our economy suffering through
intrast rates or low growth, then the lower dollar should
help get more dollars back for our exports. So it
should be like a natural shock absorber of swings in
the market.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
But back to the selling of farms anyway, David, Look,
you're advice to anybody who's looking at what to do
with a bit of money, if they've got it saved
up and they're thinking, well, what do we do? You know,
if you're a seller, you're going to have something to
look at for investment, you know, looking at your portfolio
going forward, or if you're a buyer, certain thing to
keep in the back of your mind.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
Right, Yes, well, i'd say approach to your professionals early.
We're in a good position where we can provide initial
advice free of charge, so people can come and have
a yarn. We quite often see farm sellers in particular
who put the farm on the market, work through the season,
it ends up selling, and then they've got a clearing sale.
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They have to move house and suddenly they've got a
world of work to do and they don't always have
a plan, which is quite sad. So you know, if
they came in early, they can have a chat. We
can go out to the farm or and have a
chat if they're too busy to come into town, and
then we could give them an option to consider and
there's no cost to that, and then they can run
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that through with their accountant or their loved ones and
come up with a plan before the farm sells. Because
I know that it's quite a major event to sell
a farm move off farm. It tugs at the heartstrings.
You're not necessarily going to enjoy it, and a home
for your money is probably the last thing you're thinking
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of is even walking out the door, but it's probably
one of the most important things for the next ten
or twenty years.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
So if people want to get in touch with the
team at Craig's Investment Partners, the best.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
Way just come into our office at one twenty Main
Street and Gore or find us online at craigsip dot com.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Good on you, David. Always good to catch up. Thanks Andy,
David Frame of Craig's Investment Partners here and Gor. You're
listening to the muster up next with Deary and Zed.
Veronica rust Fine, welcome back to the muster for Veronica
(20:48):
Usferd of darien Z joins us next. Veronica, Good afternoon
on what is a rather wendy wet I once.
Speaker 9 (20:55):
Again, Yeah, hi Andy, how are you?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
They're pretty good, But we're just we look at the
big situation, the bigger picture, if you will, regarding feed
situations at the moment, feed deficits are occurring. I suppose
it's a good chance, from your guys' perspective of Deary
and Z just to reiterate some options that are available
for farmers at the moment because they might need it.
Speaker 9 (21:16):
Yeah, it's pretty chop and changey out there right now
with the decisions out on farm. Like I know, last
week it was looking like we were kind of coming right.
Grass was growing, soil temps might have been probably trying
to go up.
Speaker 10 (21:30):
I know there was people mowing.
Speaker 9 (21:32):
We were taking out sila, so that was really really positive,
and now this week's you know, it's kind of been
the other way around, where people are putting solage back in,
we're stopping mowing. Yeah, it looks like growth rates have
kind of gone back down again, so soil tempts have
kind of maintained around that nine degrees.
Speaker 10 (21:50):
So what are we going to do to help.
Speaker 9 (21:53):
Us out on farm when our feed budgets, you know,
we're not sorry when we're not putting in we're not
getting cultivation done, we're.
Speaker 10 (22:01):
Not putting grass in our feed budgets.
Speaker 9 (22:03):
What are those going to look like through the summer
with not having that grass coming through? So, yeah, it
would just be good right now to kind of sit
down just kind of collect where you're at in your
feed budget and what you kind of have planned for
the next three months to get you through mating.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
We all remember bank to July and especially until the
middle of August, carving was an absolute dream. But we
fast forward, we're looking at production levels. We're around the
time of pink milk as well, which is intriguing to
say the least, given that the situation is the way
it is. So it's a matter of trying to team
a production with grass growth.
Speaker 9 (22:37):
Yeah, exactly, And you know, like I've heard, I've heard
people that have hit balance date already, others that still
haven't hit it and they were meant to hit it
three weeks ago. So I mean it's very situational to
your stocking rate obviously and where you are geographically with
what the growth rates are, and also just how much
feed you're putting in. Probably something that I do want
(22:58):
to bring up is like around that feed budgeting and
looking forward to the future and what we're kind of
predicting for this season. So in September, we updated our
e Contractor tool to show that this season will probably
have a break even milk price of for forecasted to
have a break even milk priced in South Lend for
owner operators at eight dollars seventy four. So probably just
(23:19):
keep that in mind when we're doing our feed budgeting,
and we've got some tools there to look at that
for the cost of feed, like our feed Checker calculator,
where you can kind of look through your requirements of
the feed that you're putting in and the cost breakdown
of those going in.
Speaker 10 (23:35):
And then probably something else just to look at and be.
Speaker 9 (23:37):
Mindful of is like when you are doing that peak
milking and trying to feed those cows and coming into mating,
who's like the bottom ten percent that you're maybe not
going to mate off of and maybe just doing some
scenarios in what it looks like to call those early
versus keeping them in milking them through the season. So yeah,
(23:59):
just being mindful of, you know, stocking rate. We're not
putting stuff on the ground on time. If we're not,
what are we doing to kind of balance the sheet
a little bit?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I mentioned this is Nathan last week talking about supplement levels,
but we see the situation the way there hasn't really
got any warmer at least keep things in perspective, right,
it'll be sooner than later that we are going to
get a growth explosion. But at the moment, if you
need to get supplement levels, you need to buy some
feed in you just got to do it.
Speaker 10 (24:27):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 9 (24:29):
And like I said, you can use that supplement price calculator.
I think Nathan might have talked about that last week,
just to look at what.
Speaker 10 (24:36):
Your margin on your feed is going to be.
Speaker 9 (24:38):
But remembering that's just a point in time perspective, that's
not a season perspective, to get more of a season
perspective approach in costs that would be more that feed
checker calculator.
Speaker 10 (24:51):
And then also to get that.
Speaker 9 (24:54):
Kind of three months or seasonal look at feed quantities
like meeting demand on cows that would be more or
of like our simple feed budget to go in there
and put in how much feed you're putting in, how
much pasture you have to see that you're meeting the
requirements of the cows, because yeah, obviously we want fully
fed cows all year, especially in peak milk.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
So you're encouraging people to get in touch with the
tall you with deary and zid if they've got any
concerns Vernica, Oh.
Speaker 9 (25:20):
Absolutely, yep, get in touch with us, Get in touch
with all your experts. To be honest, I had a
great conversation this morning with someone who like just lifting
off to me all their experts that they use in
their business.
Speaker 10 (25:31):
Yeah, like reach out to every single one of them
on each one.
Speaker 9 (25:35):
Like it's about having that big toolbox of people and
each person can can play a huge part in bringing
expert advice to your business.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
And the sam will come out tomorrow. That's the big thing.
To realize around this.
Speaker 10 (25:46):
Yeah, yeah, it'll come. It'll come around the corner Southland.
We'll get you down, but she won't keep you down.
So yeah, and everyone else is in the same boat.
Speaker 9 (25:54):
So reach out to your neighbors, reach out to other people,
find out what they're doing. We've got a lot of
dis Russian groups going on right now, so that's a
good place to kind of touch base with people.
Speaker 10 (26:03):
So check out our events page to see where those are.
Speaker 9 (26:07):
And yeah, just just get in contact with each other
and find out what we're doing to kind of get
over this.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
This what October.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Some people just love that saying veronicas fin a diary
and ZD always appreciate your time.
Speaker 11 (26:18):
Oh thanks Andy, cheers Veronica us Fine out of Derry
in z before the end of the year were Warren Ross.
But up next to Change of Tech Craig Sinclear talking
about changes to the recycling system regarding the Gordistry Council.
(26:58):
Welcome back, this is the mast Craig Sinclair of Gore
District Council. Here has lead to sustainability in waste management.
We're talking about recycling. You may have noticed in the
Gore region in.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Particular, they've changed the way that we're going about doing
the rubbish pickup, which stems back to three, two or
three years ago now probably even longer. Craig's notting, so
I'm not too far wrong. He'll fill this in on
that shortly. It Craig, good to catch up.
Speaker 8 (27:23):
Good Andy, how are you or.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
In the studio. I'm looking outside and it's warmer in
here that it is out there. But that one issue
that is affecting a lot of people at the moment though,
Craig has been the recycling here in the Gore region
being told we can only put glass in a yellow bin.
But all of a sudden we've gone back to the
old system. Like Southern District Council enjoys what's changed.
Speaker 8 (27:44):
Okay, So council decided earlier this year that would go
back to full recycling. So full recycling includes cardboard, your plastics, one,
two and five glass bottles are included as well en cans,
aluminum cans and tin cans, so people will be able
to put them into the yellow bins again and put
them out on the curb side. That's going to start
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on the week of the third of November. But the
first actual collection of recycling will be for the North
Gore area on the fifth of November and then we'll
go week about, so one week will be your red
waste bin and then the next week will be a
yellow recycling bin.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
So why are we changed again? Why have you gone
away from just this glass approach for the recycling.
Speaker 8 (28:26):
Well, we are having to minimize as much waste as
we can. So a number of years ago the government
just put in a waste minimization levey, which started off
at a low rate. It is now sixty five dollars
a ton. That council has to pay in a levy
for every ton of waste that we send to land
for and Gore district sends around seven and a half
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thousand ton of years, so if you do the maths
on that, it's quite a considerable amount of money we
can save if we can get people recycling better.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
So the reason the South and District Council has been
doing the recycling all the way through. What's the difference there.
Speaker 8 (29:03):
I'm not sure exactly why Gore District pulled out of it,
but there was a decision of council probably two councils ago,
that decided not to carry on with a full recycling
we're getting.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
We're starting to see a little bit of change. That's
when it comes down.
Speaker 8 (29:15):
To exactly, we're going back to what we used to
do because it's more sustainable and we can save money
by taking waste out of the waste stream.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
So as far as rural folk around the Gore region,
what change is there?
Speaker 8 (29:29):
Not a lot for them. Pakiki Lines will still be
doing what they do up at their factory up on
How can we drive there so you can drop your cardboards,
your milk bottles. They enjoy milk bottles because they're getting
a good price for them at the moment. Cans for
milk bottles, plastic milk bottles, Yeah, it's one of the
good commodities at the moment. Why is that, I don't know.
(29:50):
Recycling is a pretty fickle market, you know, and it's
up and down and it seems to be something that's
paying its way at the moment. That and aluminium cans.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
So we can expect to see plastic milk bottles on
the stock.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
Exchange maybe who knows any So.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Okay, we look at the situation in general just regarding
rubbish just not for good for Southland? Is it in
a healthy state at the moment as much as it
can be as far as management.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
So we have waste Net which is a shared service
of the three councils, and waste Net is a means
of managing the contract for our general waste across South
and so we have one company at the moment that
does all that general waste, which is Waistcoat. They manage
all the contracts and it's a cheaper way for the
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three councils to come together and manage waste together rather
than singly.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
So it's a collaborative approach, very collaborative approach.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Are you trying to convince people? Are you having what
I should say or rephrase that. Are you are you
convincing rural people that stuff doesn't exist in a forty
four gallon drummer a deadhole. Now, when it comes to
getting rid of.
Speaker 8 (30:58):
Stuff, that is a challenge. I mean, we have been
doing those things for many years and we all know
what used to go in dead holes, and we all
know what used to go and what people used to
call dumps, you know, city dumps or town dumps. We
refer to them as transfer stations. Now we only have
one landfill in South and that's ab lime and they
(31:19):
do a great job of capturing gas and bits and
pieces and generating electricity and it's amazing system. So we
don't actually dump waste any more at our transfer stations.
You know, we're getting trying to get people to be
better about what they put into the waste system, splitting
it into its components. Scrap metal, send it to the
(31:40):
scrap deal, get a bit of money out of it,
Aluminum cans, a same plastics, you know, recycling them cardboard,
putting it back through the system again. And if we
can do that, we're going to save some money on
our waste minimization levy.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
So using the word dump is frowned upon almost.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
Almost, yeah, because it's an old connotation. You know, we
used to throw in there everything, you know, And if
we were to dig up old landfills around Southland, I'm
sure there'll be some wonderful things found in the bottom
of them, as we would find in dead holes around Southland.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
And on the other side of it as well, though,
we're seeing a lot of people cray going around picking
up all those old cans and the likes of those
containers that contain chemicals from days gone past. So and
if the message is getting.
Speaker 8 (32:26):
Out there all we say definitely, especially in the rural
community with the egg recovery. And you've got CMC recycling
out at pocate Our as well, you know, collecting plastics
and bits and pieces too, so you know there are
options out there and the.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Habits are changing for rural New Zealand just on a
whole day you talk about for sure.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
Yeap and markets requiring it, so you know, we've got
to be smarter about the way we do things.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
So there's money and rubbish.
Speaker 8 (32:50):
Well i'd like to think so, but I haven't seen
it yet.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
We'll get this seeded later. So just to reiterate again,
the yellow bin now is from next time it goes
out won't just be glass, but it's going.
Speaker 8 (33:02):
To be plastics, cardboard, paper, paper, yep. So your plastics
one too and five only you know there are some
plastics we can't recycle. So if you're doing some plumbing
and you've got an old piece of plastic pipe that
you've cut off an end, it's no good to go
into your recycling. It's going to go into your red
bin unfortunately. So yep, we can do those things and
tins and cans.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
So recycling Week. I see the posters up out here.
Trainers been hot under the collar to keep everything so
we're aware of what's going on. So that's two weeks away.
Speaker 8 (33:32):
Yes, it is, yep, third of November. Start week, the
first collection of recycling. They will be the fifth that
so those that pick up on the Wednesday, so we'll
do the whole contract. Will be two red bins in
a week and two yellow bins in a week, and
then it will alternate into the next week. So you
have a red bin, yellow bin, red bin, yellow bin.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Right, so there's clarity around that. No good to know, Craig. Hey,
thanks for coming in. Hopefully the sun shines sooner than later.
So you've brought you in the middle of June almost.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
Day it is, and the forecast for tomorrow doesn't look
that flash either, Andy, So let's just hope it's not
as bad as they're expecting.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Yeah, let's just focus on the present. Hey, thanks for
coming in and clarifying things.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Thanks.
Speaker 8 (34:11):
Andy's been great talking.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Craig Saint Claire from the Gore District Council where he
is leading sustainability around waste management. Heah the old forty
four gallon drum or the bum drum. I mean there
are other options there. Go and for some stuff. At
the Pekiki Lions. They doing awesome jobs. They'll shout out
to the team be Downd there doing fantastic work up
next before we finish up Warren Ross Farming at way Mumu.
(34:39):
Time welcome back to the muster the song Deady Smash.
Iall look for Thursday. It will be interesting considering the
way the weather is at the moment. But look, all
things considered, it is that time of the year to
think about the Rams for next season. The five View
Ram Open Day is happening next Thursday, October the thirtieth,
from one pm onwards eight Whitehood or Westrodia at Lawrence.
(35:02):
You'll find Rodney's, Rodney Texalls and SAFF Techs on display.
Take the AVO off heavy and check out the whole
far View operation as well. That's Hamish and the team
there with their fave youe RAM Open Day, Thursday October
the thirtieth. As we go and catch up with Warren
Ross Farming at Wai Mumu our fishing gury here on
the mustard as well.
Speaker 9 (35:21):
Well.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Good afternoon, but straight off the cuff won't be too
much freshing this weekend and Tiyan. Now the competition, the
fishing comp which has been going for eighteen nine years,
has been postponed.
Speaker 12 (35:31):
Yeah, Aflue Andy, Yeah, no, he has been asty. So
I read that last night that they're talking about it,
and ye came across the news this morning that they
have cancel. It's a it's a bit of a shame,
but I guess THINKI comes first, and.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
That's pretty much what it comes down to. You look
at the driftwood that's around the edge of the lake
front and what you can't do much about. It's just
mother Nature's not playing ball. Just whoever you speak to,
you know.
Speaker 12 (35:54):
And there'll be logs on the lake as well, they
haven't reached the shore yet and also carry on. And
but they're all talking another quite a few meals, like
an inch twenty five or thirty five miles from the
next few days for particularly, but that's probably going to
get more on the on the hills and on the divide.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
So how are you.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Faring on the farm? There is that we said it
way moment.
Speaker 12 (36:14):
And that's not so we can actually be feared. We've
had a fish here of rain. But with these ones
we've been getting has certainly been drawing the ground at
time pretty quick afterwards.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
So you're managing to get the iron horse out under
the peeddic, get some firees turned over.
Speaker 12 (36:29):
No, absolutely, so I haven't had the play on the ground,
but you're sort of ripping ground up and rolling it
deck down and and spreading hay clumps around and so no,
it's not just chipping away. We haven't planned anything yet.
But I don't get carried away fit until until on
November any house, I do believe. I do have seen
some beat planners getting around in trying to plant some
(36:50):
full of beat and some pieces. But yeah, I just
I just giant you wait, uh wait, wait till November.
Before I get carried away.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
I need to catch up with Ben Dooley who's talking
the other day about getting grass and on the likes,
and I'm thinking, well, it's on the ground, but you're
just going to wait for it to grow. Now. Sometimes
you're just got to be careful what you wish for.
Speaker 12 (37:07):
Yeah, that's right, you know, and we've done it in
the past, and you know, you get a pretty good
strike but not super great, so we generally wait till years,
wait till November and or early December for grass and yeah,
and you know Saltimbers is a lot warmer and more
said all and yeah, and that's what we tend to do.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
So you wouldn't say your rainfall is any different to
other years. It's just been unseasonably cold and windy.
Speaker 12 (37:28):
Ah, well, I think September is probably well up on
the well above beverage. October hasn't been so bad, I guess.
But you know, we're just the winds. We haven't had
the wines we've been getting now for a number of years,
I guess, so yeah, but you know, so we're sitting
all right.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
And everybody's saying the same thing about the wind. It
just makes you feel grumpy.
Speaker 12 (37:48):
Oh, grumpy and tired. And it's just the same evening
you do so much hadder, you know, that's right. This
weekend will help.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
So how the stop looking at the moment or the
fake conditions as well? Are you coping?
Speaker 6 (38:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (38:00):
No, We've got plenty of feed achually on the d
unit or across the board too, to be fair. And
I'm just shifting mob a kettle as we speak this morning.
And yeah, they're all looking pretty good. So there's plenty
of thing in front of us and the unit probably
biggest chills now will be to keep the feed under control,
to be honest, sir. But that's what they're or the
or the kettle for.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
So the venison schedule, though we've talked before about these
eleven dollar contracts, everything's still pretty tickety boo in that department.
Speaker 12 (38:26):
Yeah, how far as the weird is yet now, So
we've got a few more to kill next week actually,
so the one hundred guns will gone away to the work.
So you know, we're chipping away in here yealing healing
stacks pretty quickly really, so they come along, come along
quite nicely.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
So the deer is thriving at the moment.
Speaker 12 (38:40):
I seem to be doing all right. Yeah, I just
and I also had to move a mother wavering stacks
but closer to the sheet for tomorrow morning. So that's uh,
we will start velving tomorrow actually, so uh well on
the on the mix, sage stacks nor things. It's come
along pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Really does velvetig good job. You look forward to, you look.
Speaker 12 (38:57):
Forward to at the start, and then when you get
in to January year, yeah, which you weren't doing it.
And by the time you get to the last of
the regrowth and the last of the sparkers, and even
sparkers grow right through to February and then you miss one.
Godly gosh, we're gonna go get it, get them in
and get another half a dozen done or something happened, Yeah,
by January in the January year over it.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
So it's more or less the next three months that
are taken over, taken out, taken out.
Speaker 12 (39:20):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much absolutely between we've got five hundred
staves and three hundred the alternative leaving stakes left. Yeah,
between them and them and them. It's yeah, full con job.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Really as far as there's a lines do your will?
What do you make of it?
Speaker 12 (39:36):
Well, something had to happen and I can't carry on
doing what they've been doing, I believe, and have a
discussion with someone last night actually, and farmers could just
be help them out again. What's going to happen in
three years time when they ask for pass the farmers
for more money, you know, And I believe until they
(39:58):
change something in the house in the way of consider
elating or so forth, nothing actually really going to change,
if you know what I mean, and so I think
it's weird, it's a good thing or not. I'm sure
I didn't want to see it go over offshore, but
the reality is that, Yeah, the other ones with the money, well.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
There was a business decision if I didn't do that.
The banks are wanting money and a lot of it
and not that long a time away.
Speaker 12 (40:23):
Yeah, in a very very short time correct, So the
alternative was basically and broken.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Suppose well, any farmers you speak to her involved with
the lions, what are their thoughts been.
Speaker 12 (40:34):
I haven't been talking to me. How people better if
you're out, But there's been mostly a bit of mixed,
mixed feelings about it. I guess most of them are
sort of corner like me. It's sort of on the
fence a little bit. They want to see it go sure,
but something that's going to have to has to happen,
has to change, and yeah, this is where we're at.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Yeah, A great way to look at it, mate, How
are all the best over the weekend? Take your brolly
with you and we'll catch up again. Always good to
catch up a you know, absolutely.
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Speaker 4 (42:00):
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Speaker 8 (42:00):
Heable there and where did it go on?
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Again? For c did you.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Write some present stock selling actions that occurred at the
Bell Cluther sale yards this morning? So Russell Maloney is
on the line to fill us in on hell price
this week. Good afternoon, Russell, Are we still seeing these
good prices for red meat?
Speaker 13 (42:14):
Yes, good afternoon, Andy, Good afternoon listeners. Yeah, look it's
still very strong prices right across the board. A very
windy day down here at Belle Cluther, but it sounds
like it's right across the Tago south and probably just
about everywhere. This wind is just driving people a little
bit mad. But look, price is still very very steady
down here at the bell Cluther saleyards will all be
(42:35):
a very small yarding, probably the smallest yarding with head
in a while. But I'll run you through a few
prices to get started. So you prim lambs stall with
lambs teeth, so these are last years lambs, but with
lambs teeth around at two fifty to three hundred dollars,
mark mediums two hundred to two forty and the light
around lamb around one hundred and fifty to two hundred dollars.
But we had no store lambs in today, which is
(42:57):
you know a reminder that we're into next season now
and these hoggits probably have done their dash, so we'll
skip over them. But we move on to the US again.
Strong demand for cal us or wet dry us that
are coming out of the woodwork. There large views making
one eighty to two hundred and twenty dollars, mediums one
fifty to one seventy. And look, as I mentioned the
(43:18):
quality yarding today, we had no light use in so
I will not give you a price there. What we
are wanting is said a few hoggits are cutting teeth.
As they have cut teeth, you can sort of expect
around that one hundred and twenty to one hundred and
fifty dollars for them.
Speaker 11 (43:32):
Down at the yards.
Speaker 13 (43:34):
Col rams again a few starting to come out as well,
col rams making big heavy rams around the eighty to
ninety dollars and smaller stuff around that forty to fifty.
Just a few notes here. Next week we do have
the velpers that kettle sale next Wednesday, the twenty ninth
of October. So if you got any kettle you want
to sell or you're looking at buying with that weaver
(43:54):
of grass that's coming along, please come down to the
Belkers the Saleyards on Wednesday, the twenty ninth of October.
And we are also tuning up towards the time of
year where we start talking rams. So we've got the
water Huna ram open day. That's long Ridge Genetics which
is munbane and five EU Genetics which is Hamish fuelwood.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
So running an.
Speaker 13 (44:13):
Open day on Thursday, the Thudy of October. One thing onwards.
So if you're looking at maybe changing up your n breed,
please get along to those open days and heavy we
nosy And.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
A reminder from Sam Riley as well, there is no
long bull sale next week Russell, due to it being
the long week end. I'll throw it. Throw that on there.
Speaker 13 (44:29):
That is great, you know, good to to point there
in it as well and look at tip of the week.
No horses this week. But let's get up I targo away.
What a great way to see you see that long
weekend you I suppose on Saturday, So get up a targo,
let's go boards in and n how did.
Speaker 6 (44:44):
It go on again?
Speaker 4 (44:44):
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