November 26, 2025 • 45 mins
Andy Muir talks to Rob Scott, Peter Gardyne, Carey McKenzie, Bruce Ford, Nathan Burdon and David Morrison.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Good afternoon, and welcome to the muster on Hocknowie. My
name is Andy Meer here until two o'clock this afternoon.
Thanks for Peter's genetics. I appreciate your company. On an
afternoon of blue sky with some cloud on the horizon,
looking ahead to the southern storm. Shout at Nigel Wood
Heads at three o'clock this afternoon. I don't think it's
going to be too bad to be honest if you're
hitting up there, but I showed you get through before that.
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This afternoon sholls of brisk north westerly is and twenty one.
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rain with breezy sol easterlyes eight and fifteen, and Monday
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showers of breezey soal easterly seven and fifteen. So temperatures
Clinton thirteen point five, Harriet thirteen point eight Northern South
and fourteen point five, did I Riverton to on our
fourteen point three tittera of fifteen Winton fourteen point eight
and Woodlands at thirteen point six. As we start the
show today with Rob Scott's Southend District Mayor, the government's
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made noises over the past forty eight hours about council amalgamations.
Now Rob's been hot hot under the cholera regarding this
issue for the last twelve months, so he towlses in
his word as well, he think this is a good
thing to be talking about. Peter Gardine Farms and nap Dales.
We have a regular catchup see how things are going
on the farm. Bruce Ford, our Stuart Island correspondent, talks
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about all happenings down there, a beautiful Stuart Island. Is
always good to catch up with Bruce, as we do
every couple of months. Carrie McKenzie it'll be from their
New Zealand joins us this afternoon talking the next gym
program and Nathan Burdon, our resident sporting guru looking at
the Highlanders. A new jersey has been released for next season,
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well for all the Super Rugby teams. Actually Dave Morrison
for PGG Rising is an update from the Chardon sw Yards.
Then we start the hour with Rob Scott. You're listening
to the Muster until two o'clock thanks to Peters Genetics.
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Rab Scott is the mayor of the Southland District Region
and joins us this afternoon. Of course, the news came
out in the last couple of days regarding the proposal
to get rid of a the Counsel's super cities and
the likes will occur in certain parts of the country
depending on where you're based. But Rob Scott was one
of the drivers of this about this time last year,
even earlier, and joins us this afternoon to give us
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a bit of further comment. Good afternoon, Rob, you must
feel rather vindicated.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah, good afternoon, Andy. Yeah, it's quite interesting hearing some
of the interviews with the likes of Chris Bishop and
he's been using the same words that I was using
over a year ago. So yeah, it's the government's caught
up with what's happened was doing.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Why do you think this has come to the attention
all of a sudden.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I think there's a number of factors that when you
look at I mean, I know the turnout that the
elections has sort of spacked a bit of voter turn
out at the elections have spact a bit of discussion
as well. But I think it's I mean, it's been
time for change for quite a while and it's what
I've been saying, and I love the words the mirror.
What we've been saying was simplifying local government in the
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country and actually trying to get stuff done and do
it efficiently and get that engagement up. So yeah, I
think the government's recognized. I'd like to take all the
credit and say they've they've read thousand's proposal and gone, well,
this will work up and down the country, so let's
mirror that. But yeah, it's good to see that it's
been recognized.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Have you been talking to Chris special but or lately
by chance not In.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
The last couple of months, I didn't see well, I
did see the announcement coming at some stage, but yeah,
we didn't have any heads up that it was coming
on with us, so it was a surprise to us
as though, although yeah, not a huge surprise that.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
It was there.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
So yeah, we've talked about this before as well. I mean,
over two hundred people were elected to local body politics,
whether they were mayors or councilors unopposed, and that's certainly
got to be a catalyst for change though, just when
it comes to wasteful spending.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, yeah, and it's well, I mean the other words
that they've been using that mirrored what we've been saying
of their duplication, the the siloed kind of approach, all
of those sorts of things where we're just yeah, there's
a much better way of doing it.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
As far as Ben Bell Core District mayor, I do
you remember foul Cheer of environments Southland? Tom Campbell and Macawgan.
Have you been in a much dialogue of these people
regarding what's going on.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, we've had initial chats. I was actually at a
meeting with Todd McLay on, Sorry of lost Shrek of days.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Now what day are we We're on Thursday?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Thursday, so yeah, Tuesday, Tuesday night, so that the day
of the announcement, and Jeremy was there and had a
quick catch up with him and had had a bit
of a chat with Ben afterwards. I'm going to try
and have a chat with Tom today to see where
we all kind of said Jeremy was looking a bit
just tendably shell shocked. It's the timing is not that
great in terms of having just gone through an election
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and then having that that bomb bombshell drop that. Yeah,
that all of the councilors are going to be potentially
out of a out of a role. But I mean
you can't carry on waiting for these things to happen either.
It's long overdue.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Well, the human is there. The timing stinks, Kevin. We've
just had an election a couple of months ago, especially
around environment Southland.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah, although when you look at it from the southend
point of view, I mean we've been having this discussion
for a while now and just reading through the full
We had a council meeting yesterday so I didn't have
a chance until this morning to actually have a good
read through the full proposal. But when you look at
the outcomes of what they're wanting to achieve, we can
take all of them off with the vocal that we
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sent through in February of this year. So it's that
middle step of having the regional councils governed by the
three mayors. We could probably avoid that to that to me,
doesn't sound like a simple approach and just go straight
to the final outcome of having the two unitaries in Southland,
and that's going to deliver the best bank for back
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for for our people and the most simple form of
local governance as well.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Rob, can we afford the cost of amalgamation because there's
a lot of money going into consultants, YadA, YadA, YadA,
you know the drill, and there's going to be a
heck of a lot of coin change hands before this
actually comes to fruition.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
See. I don't actually think Andy, that we need to
spend a lot of money on it. We've done a
lot of the groundwork in terms of that proposal. We've
got really good local democracy for our community boards through
everything there. We've got systems in place already. I don't
think we need to make it. I think, following the
government rhetoricative keeping it simple, we can do a simple
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amalgamation or reorganization as well. We don't need to make
that too complicated either. And as they're looking at the
roles and functions of local government at the same time
and where the duplication lies, we don't need to get
a whole lot of consultants, and our best consultants are
actually our rate payers in our community who we're actually
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there to serve, and they'll have their expectations of what
we need to do. And yeah, I don't think we
need to spend a whole lot of mon on it.
It's the money that we're spending in a broken system
that I'm worried about and the money that we're wasting.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
All right, payers voicing, well, a few people actually saying
in the last couple of days Rob as well that
there's not going to be a lot of money saved
if amalgamations occur as well.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, it's if you do amalgamation for amalgamation stake, you're
not going to save any money. And it's important to
get the end result, right. I Mean, you look at
that intermediary model. But the government's proposed with the I
think we're god a CTB or whatever it's called. The
mayor's sitting on that board, you're still going to be
running through and having the regional council there with the
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duplicated kind of services and planning and all of that
kind of stuff. So the model that we proposed does
actually have savings because we're removing a lot of that duplication.
You're still going to have the CEO of the regional council.
Under that intermediary model. If we jump straight to the outcome,
we're removing a lot of those overheads and those costs
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as well, including the planning. So get into those innuitry
authorready outcomes as where we will get the savings and
we'll get them a lot faster if we skip that
intermediate steps.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Okay, let's use Tepanui as an example. That's end the
material licensing trust boundaries. Although it comes under a Targo
regional council jurisdiction, there could be a stickler.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yeah, it could be.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
And it's interesting. I saw in one of the pages
of their twenty nine page document this morning that they're
not going to look at the regional boundaries as part
of this, And there have been some people that have said, look,
you can include the sort of the Blue Mountain area
around into South End, and I mean it starts to
complicate it a little bit when you sort of cross
those regional council boundaries. But yeahs going to be a
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few little nuances in there, but I'm sure we can
work through those. As they go through. But the bigger
picture of getting the model right I think is the
most important part.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
So as far as close the district council, would you
be keen to get them involved as well?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Oh, we can have conversations, I think one of the things.
And of having a look at the national map yesterday
that the government put forward, which has got all the
boundaries and everything on, and when you look at the
South and District it's essentially it's like I'm just talking
about our current area as a district council. It's bigger
than a lot of the regions south. So we're effectively
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a region already from a size point of view, and
you don't want to go too big from a geography
point of view, and it's one of the risks when
we just focus on population, we end up getting too
big geographically and then we end up getting the bloated
staff levels because you've got to have additional staff to
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cover the area because one person can't cover that entire space,
and then you end up getting extra managers in and
you get all that kind of stuff that we're trying
to avoid in that piece, and you don't get that
same connected kind of democracy. And when you look at
the voter turnout. Auckland's probably got the worst in the
whole country. And that's a very big, unitary authority covering
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quite a wide area, but the people are very disconnected
from their elected members, which puts them off sotting when
you look at the voter turnout down south and I
know Gore did very well and Stuart Island actually got
sixty something percent. So when you get that smaller connected area,
you get a much better engagement. So it's getting that
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balance right between your population and your geography and your
representation and sort of linking it all through. So it's
quite important to look at those boundaries and how it
all ties them together.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
It's all hypothetical at the stage, rob but then you
look at the area like Gorth, it's debt loading, historical debt, etc.
This comes under the equation as well. It's got to
be distributed fairly.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, no, it does. And those are sort of details
that we can work out. But again you don't need
consultants to do that. You've got really good staff, We've
got really good governance, good information, good insights. We can
do a lot of it ourselves locally.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Is there arrested that amalgamations though don't work and what
happens then, well.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
If you get it right, you design it to succeed,
not to fail. And I guess that's one of my
reasons for not involving something designed by Wellington. It needs
to be designed locally by our people, for our people,
and if we do that, it's got a very high
chance of working where it's going to fail, as if
the government actually tries to design everything and do a
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Wellington top down and do it to us. So it's
really important that as the Southern Region we focus on
the outcomes for our communities and we all work together,
even to the means some of us are going to
be out of our jobs, but we've got to work
towards those outcomes for our people and never be designed.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
By the peace good owner. I've always appreciate your time
on the muster no worse thanks Andy, Rob Scott, South
and District Council Mayor South and District Mayor for that matter,
about council amalgamations back on the table all of a
sudden after Chris Bishop's announcement on Tuesday evening, this is
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the muster up next Peter Gard and Farming a Natdale.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
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Speaker 1 (13:37):
Peter Gardine Farms and Napdale and joins us once again
on the muster Pete House. Aggs.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Yeah, good good Dale Farm today, so yeah, not a
bad wee look around. What are you have to I
did a training day for the harvesters that we use,
and yeah, full credit to the team there. They've got
a whole lot of guys from overseas here and teaching
us how to drive head is better and yeah, have
been really impressed over the last couple of years at
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the support that they've given us around driver optimization and training.
And my head is a secondhand heater. It's not the fanciest,
newest one or anything like that. But with harvesters, I
think there's always so much you can do better has
to do a better job, and yeah, it has been
really useful when I feel like we're getting more out
of our machine, which is a bit of a win
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all round and currently a very expensive part of the
business having machinery.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
How do you get on with technology in general. Though
when you're driving a harvested he's quite a bit there.
You've got to get on the uptake to be honest.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Yeah, there is mine still. It's fifteen years old, so
it's a nice modern heater, but it's not the fanciest
newest ones. And yeah, I think the technology things starting
to talk better, you know, in regards to tractors and
the likes. There was a while there. I think it
went through that awkward teenager phase where it was kind
of good and kind of not and things talk to
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other things, but not there, and I think with I
think we're sort of rounding out that circle now that
most stuff coming out's pretty awesome. And yeah, ice bust
and all that's talking pretty well to each other. And
I think you'd be crazy to buy modern stuff without
that tech when ten years ago it was sort of
hit and miss. You know, half your gear ahead at
half it didn't And.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, well, let's be honest. The tractors from a few
quite a few years ago, it was a sixteen mil
spanner and I can to see see maybe some blinded
twain and you're away laughing. These days they hook it
into a computer to fix it.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Oh, you did right. And the other thing around that,
I mean, my oldest boy is coming of an age
where he's not far away from learning how to drive
a tractor. And there aren't those basic, boring jobs that
there was when I was at age. So it's going
to be around what do we put them on first
to keep things safe and keep them learning, but not
not put them out of their depth. Because when I learned,
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you just had a three minute pair of Harry behind
one hundred and fifteen horse power tractor and there was
no theater on that pair or anything like that, and
it was all pretty basic. And you ha, do we
three meter roller? And yeah, everything's just so much bigger
and more expensive because we've sort of got to make
it all pay. And yeah, I think, how do we
get those young guys and girls into a job like
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that that's you know, doable for them, you know, to
get them started in that side of things is a
bit of a challenge.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
When you look at the situation on farm at the moment, Pete,
how's it competer this time last year?
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Would you say, yeah, we're taking over pretty good at
the moment. The weather you're ear in November, which in
October sorry, which helped. Then we probably talking us some
ram clients down south. We only got half the rainfall
that they got in September and October. I wasn't actually
aware of how it was on the rainfall front down
there where Actually I'm looking for rain at home. We
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are losing a little bit of production to the dry
but that's pretty standard for us at home there, so
not too bad. We are finding a cobboalt or a
B twelve levels in their lambs is below where I'd
wanted to. Their room levels in their lambs are really good,
but we are needing that BE twelve, which is frustrating.
In the last couple of years we've been struggling on
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that front. So I think we're going to go to
jabbing at tailing as well as the cold bolt on
the ground. Yeah, so that's sort of their front. The
Swedes are going in the ground at the moment. Everything
else is sort of up and looking up too bad,
but just ye need to keep these little bits of
rain coming through. So I think we're only sitting on
about twenty smells of rain for November at home.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Have you been testing for worms when you drench?
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Yeah, we've had the really arrange, but they've been pretty
pretty good. We've actually ended up drenching them more to
give them the B twelve, which really annoys me because
they could have not come through the shed and not
have all that sort of done along acting B twelve
at tailing time, so that's frustrating. We've given up drenching
on mum in the hill and we've actually seen a
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lift and when weights. I don't think that not drenching
them has raised their whining way, So I'm not that
but I do think at least it hasn't had a
negative effect, and I do think.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
The least pop animals come through it the yards.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
As long as they're not in need of something. It
is definitely a big plus from a workload in an
animal wealthare point of view.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
The schedule sounds as it's going to remain pretty buoyant
depending on who you speak to. I've spoken to a
couple of agents who seem pretty glass half full regarding it.
What are you hearing.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
The reports? I hear as it's pretty positive and allegedly
it is tied to fundamentals of the dollar and overseas markets.
When we're in Aussie in the winter, there is a
genuine shortage of animals around. I am too scared to
put the official forecast and my budget, my budget is
running a lower forecast than that because I'm not quite
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brave enough to put those numbers in because the seat
farmer me just isn't quite sure if we can hold that.
But either way, I mean, it's not like it's amazing
what we've got for dry hogits and with dry hogits
what we're seeing a load of cattle yesterday, So it's
going to be interesting to see what the sheet looks
like on them. And I think it's the time for
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all the guys and girls out there that have you know,
done it pretty tough the last couple of years and
kept reinventing in their business. This is the time to
make some hay and you know, make the most of
us this year, this year and the following years to come.
And yeah, I just hope everybody has you know, makes
the most of this financial situation that's out there, because
they all deserve it.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, absolutely, Pete, We'll let you carry on. It's a
bit windy where you are, but go back in there
and learn a bit more about GPUs than the like say, yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
No, We'll be ubscured by the end of the day,
and I'll be slightly less slightly less done by the
end of the day.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Pete guardin. Yeah, there's a lot to be said about
the old Ford five thousands, right, you've got the sixteen
mil spender, the five point fifty six number eight blinded
fine number eight. Why sorry, but a blinded fine. It's
amazing what you can fix when you needed to. Times
have moved on. I suppose as is a Kerry McKenzie
out of Beef and Lamb, which at next.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
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Click beeflambenz dot com. Who's going to be fun? Same
Kerrie McKenzie joins us in the Beef and Lamb New
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is a big thing for Beef and Lamb, and Carrie
is a part of this and joins this this afternoon
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to tell us why you should be a part of it.
Good afternoon, carry thanks for joining us.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
Is halla okay, Carrie?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Tell us about yourself where you're from, your farming background?
Speaker 8 (20:42):
So I'm eighteen years old. I went to Central Southern
College and just finished your protein last year. So I've
just spent in the year working on the family farm
at home because my dad had an injury. So yeah,
just a sheep farm running about two thousand sheep eight
hundred hog.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Have you had a decent season to date.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
Yeah, it's been pretty good. Obviously, with the weather recently
and all the trees coming down hasn't been great, but
it's been great to be working full time and really
knowing what it's like in the sector and everything.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
You're straight out of school going into the sheep and
beef sector. Was that always the plan or let you say,
your dad's injury kind of forced your handle it.
Speaker 8 (21:22):
Yeah, dad's injury definitely keeps me at home working. But
I think I'll do some study in the agricultural sector,
but I'm just not sure what sort of end of
it I'll go into.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
So you're thinking likes of Telford or Lincoln or the.
Speaker 8 (21:35):
Likes maybe Lincoln.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
So have you always had an interest in sheep farming?
Speaker 8 (21:41):
Yeah, So, as I said, I grew up on a
sheep farm. Very hands on, you know, I really do
enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
So what do you most enjoy about it? From your perspective.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
Stock work just working stock. I love lemming very just
so tired.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
You love lembing like very rewarding time. It can be
the best of jobs. It can be the worst of
the jobs. It depends on what mother nature provides.
Speaker 8 (22:05):
Very swiftful time can be pretty awful at moments, but
then you look around and you're like, yep, I did that.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Now the gym next course? What got you involved?
Speaker 8 (22:14):
Uh So my NEIGHBORSI owner, she was running it and
she was like, oh, this could be quite good for
you since like you're going to be down here anyway.
So I signed up and I got it, and yeah,
it's been really good so far.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
So tell us all about it. What's involved?
Speaker 8 (22:29):
So there's four modules free, of which are in parison
and just one online, so you know, there was like
a finance course, so that was really interesting, just learning
about how to manage our essets because it's four people
aged eighteen to thirty, so a younger crowd sort of
getting into that next step of farming and taking over
ownership as such.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
And how many days and the months are you involved
with this? So what's a time frame?
Speaker 8 (22:55):
I suppose, So it's over the year, but there's only
about four in person days, one of which is like
a weekend as such, like two days, and then one
online after work. So we probably started back around April
May as such.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Have you enjoyed it?
Speaker 8 (23:16):
Yeah, I've enjoyed it. It's been really good, like this
knowledge like stuff I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
So what's been the most what's been your favorite part
of it? You say you're learning all the time. What's
really stood out?
Speaker 8 (23:28):
So we went up to Moscule and went to MMAS.
That was really cool. We did a tour of the
farm and like the rooms and all that, so just
seeing how they did things up via worth animal testing
and stuff and SEF account all that sort of stuff
really fascinating.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
So what are your words of advice to anybody who
wants to get involved with this?
Speaker 8 (23:51):
I would say differently, sign up like a really chilled.
The people you make are really cool, like everyone's sort
of like each other and such, all very farming.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
So it's eighteen to thirty, the eighteen year olds talking
to the thirty year olds. Are they gaining and are
you gaining a lot of knowledge?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (24:07):
So like in my sense, I'm fresh out of school,
whereas they're about to take over a farm and it's
like interesting they tell stories of like the years they
were it compared to me being fresh into it as such,
the twelve year age gap, Like it's information that's knowledgeable
to all of us, like we've all learned stuffing.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 8 (24:29):
We do a lot of interesting topics.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
So when does the next installment of Next Gen of
Next course take place?
Speaker 8 (24:37):
So they do start just before Christmas like doing and
still like reaching out to people like posting about it,
but it will go through to about the few days
like decently, if you're at the YMMO field days like
go talk to them about it. Sign up, like that's
when I'll really be taking people in.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yes, certainly looks as though it's some Agriculture's got good
young people coming through the ranks. Carry Hey, thanks to your
time on the must of this afternoon. Always good to
catch up with the younger generation coming through with a
passion for the industry. And appreciated your time.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Perfect.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Carrie mackenzie and the beef and lambslot. If you want
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to your inbox every Friday. Bruce Ford is up next,
down at Stuart Island yesterday, Lord Duran. Duran is the artist.
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The song is called Ordinary World. You're listening to the muster.
Although it's fair to say our next guest lives in
somewhere that is pretty extraordinary to coin a phrase, Bruce
Ford lives down at Stuart Island, their correspondent from down
that way. We catch up from time to time. Bruce,
Good afternoon, Good afternoon, Andy, how you today. Oh look,
it's the weather's on its way up. It's it's a
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thing of beauty after what we've experienced over the past
couple of months.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
Yeah, it's made a considerable difference around here. And we've
got a nice sunny day here and now, and whilst
it's been a few days of that, the all the
lawns and need need mowing, and everything's growing like pretty crazy.
I've got a large hydroponics letus operation going and there
was sunshine and that, and the other day it was
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up to the best part of thirty degrees on nutrient,
which is it's a pretty good push really.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
The windstorm we head in the south a few weeks back.
Now down there you reckon, you got off pretty scott free, Bruce.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
Ah, Yes, we did do it well. We did get
some wind, and that's a regular occasion here. We will
be pretty strong and things were tied.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Down pretty good.
Speaker 7 (26:55):
But certainly I couldn't find anywhere where I'd going any firewoods,
So that's a the level of what we got so
compared to the rest of the region.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
But down there on Stewart Island, a lot of school
groups have been down there lately. It's the tourism season.
Cruise ships have they been in abundance.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
Cruise ships are started off again, so we've had had
a few of those in I can't recall an angel them.
But whilst cruise ships have been threatened other parts of
the country, I think our teams still hold pretty good.
So we've been reasonably successful.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
So you're seeing no change in numbers visiting numbers.
Speaker 7 (27:31):
The cruise ships or they're pretty kenny. They fucking choose
a bit now on again, off again, but I think
we should regard them as bonus anyways, because we've had
lots of other tourists. There's bird watchers and the likes
at this time of years, things just quite busy here,
so you know where we're pleased with that.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Would you say tourist numbers are back to pre COVID levels.
Speaker 7 (27:54):
I haven't checked the numbers, but my belief is that
they will be, and we get a good on that
from our visit to levy records when I get reports
on that, and I haven't seen a recent one, but
I believed pretty much back to pre COVID.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
So what's the levy for going to Stuart Islander?
Speaker 7 (28:15):
Fifteen dollars currently started off at five and it's just
in corporate and the fair and I've not heard a
murmur that anybody's even noticed it.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Oh why would you? I mean, you're quite happy to
play it. If you've got to go somewhere, there needs
to be expenditure, some infrastructures in place, right.
Speaker 7 (28:32):
Well exactly, And we've collected an excess of one and
a half million dollars. It's been used on community facilities
and jetties and walking tracks and toilets that sort of thing,
so things that rape players surely can't be expected to
pay for.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
You talk about tourists, if you talk about ships, but
the Navy they've been in town as well.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
Yeah, we didn't think we had a defense problem. But
the Navy turned up yesterday and that was a bit
of a bonus round town. There were lots of sailors
ashore and Takaha. The school kids apparently had a visit
to the ship and they had looked round, so I
believe there was one hundred and sixty of proboard there.
They sailed again last night eight o'clock, so they were
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heading for the need and so certainly gave them a
bit of fresh air, and no doubt spent some money
because some of the eateries were quite pleased to see them.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
So they weren't coming to check your hydro products set.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
Up, No, No, probably they'd probably get their own sheer
and green for sure.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Now one figure that absolutely stounds with Stuart Island is
the amount of vehicles there. I think you see. Was
that six hundred odd vehicles? Is that right? Yep? Yeah,
and twenty k's of road. But the good news is
that the roads are getting resealed.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
Yes, somewhere I spected up for Christmas. They all it's
a regular sequence now fifteen years or so, and they
gravel stop poles, the ceiling chips have been accumulating for
the last few months because of course it's all going
to be shipped, and no doubt the finger will turn
up after Christmas and there'll be two or three weeks
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to time they get evening tidied up, and then we'll
get some fresh road markings and everything. It'll be stick
and Spain.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
You're got to be honest, every fifteen years they relydo
the roads for you. Must be pretty exciting.
Speaker 7 (30:28):
Yeah, well I try it, and it's a bit of
a different smell around the roads for a little while.
But of course we don't have any major heavy vehicles
on them, so they don't take as much damage as
your heavy trucks do on your side. Well, the only
smell cutting off those roads will be the smell of progress,
i'd suggest. Oh yeah, exactly. And you know it's a
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bit tidy up because there's always a few repairs happened
prior to it, and patching and water tables and all
that stuff, so it's a good reason to get things
it up.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Now. Are solar upgrades on the cards as well.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
Yes, we've had some time ago a few months ago
where Matt Patterson turned up with a blessing for the
community with some regional development money for solar farm. So
that's to happen after Christmas, at the start of it anyway,
and there'll be some upgrades with their lines, system, desil generators, batteries,
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so that in theory we should now ever get a
power cup again and hopefully the price will change on
reduce their price because we paid eighty five cents a
unit currently and there are some suggests in that thirty
or forty cents and it will be a reduction from
our eighty five.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Well as far as infrastructure around that, that's fantastic.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
Yeah, I want to make a hell of a difference
to anybody in business because you know, the power villas
are a fair chunk of course, and on top of electricity,
we use LPG for cooking, the eating coal, all those things.
So our power bills will mine's four hundred bucks of months.
But everybody in town that gets fort and la bill
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has electric stove and water, eating and everything electric. So
we have to skim and scrape aweave it.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Well, it's probably not that easy to go and get
a guess, but a lot image.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
I know we have a regular guest supply here at
guest shunting stations over just a local garage supply the guests,
so it's pretty straightforward.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
The local garage will be a master of all trades too.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
Oh hell, yes, yes, yes, of course they are because
I used to work for the one stage.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Oh there you go, say no more, Bruce. Now, one
thing that's really yours about Stuart Island when I've spoken
to you in the past is the fact that you'll
see key we walking down the street. But another thing
at the moment is the doctrial they're nesting and it's
bringing people to the island. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (32:56):
The latest reports that Dark have been putting out in
the media, of course, is a positive positive response for
the Dodtoral nesting in Petstin around Rapi Her and so forth.
And because of the poison operation at Rid of some
cats and wraps and things, the Dodtorals apparently are doing
very well. The council are increasing dramatically and that's looking
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pretty good.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Just finally as well. You're a former counselor for the
Southland District. I spoke to Rob Scott earlier in the
program about the chance of the malgamations of councilors. What
are your thoughts around this.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
I agree that it's well overdue. You know, we've only
got one hundred thousand people in Southland and four councilors
is a bit rich. We could do a whole lot
of bet on that and fully supporting Robin has attempts
to have it changed around, but regional councilors have got
out of hand. So I agree with Shane Jones on
that one. That's a great move.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
So an area like Stuart Island would benefit.
Speaker 7 (33:58):
Well, nothing really will change, you just get just reshaped
of it. You know, we had reorganization in eighty nine
when we had our own council here and that got
a Melbourn ate into Southam and we've managed on that
and that's been successful. So I don't see any reason
why if the steple of regional council. But the work
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will still go on because those people will still get
a job, they will still be work to just the
headings will change.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Good on your Bruce, Always appreciate your time on the muster.
You enjoy the afternoon on beautiful Stuart Island.
Speaker 7 (34:33):
I think you're very much sandy.
Speaker 9 (34:34):
Good on you.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yeah, Bruce Ford down at Stuart Island. There's a figure
for the pub tonight. Eight hundred vehicles on Stuart Island.
You'd never believe that, but that's outstanding. Nathan Burden is
the residents Sporting Gury. We talk about a sport. Next
you're listening to the Muster. Welcome back to the Muster.
(35:03):
It's happening this afternoon the Southern Storm. Shout at Nigel
wood Here's property at Level Slat halfway between Balcluther and
Milton studying at three o'clock this afternoon. If you're in
the vicinity, you want to heat up there by all
means at Emerson's tiny pub, the Spates Bar. They're going
to be there, the Milton Lions on the Barbie silverfar
and Farms has got the meat for the barbecue and
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there's going to be a and Z the with a
coffee and ice cream card as well. So it's happening
at three o'clock the Savoy. Many thanks to Nigel and
Leanne Woodhead. As we catch up with our residence Sporting
Gury Nathan burdon house things You.
Speaker 9 (35:36):
Good mate yourself?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah, pretty good. I'm just looking at the new Highlanders jersey.
It's been released for next season. It's a throwback to
nineteen ninety six. My first look at it was it's
almost like they've gone for a bit of John McGlashan
college in there.
Speaker 9 (35:51):
Bit of aout. I guess thirty years of Super Apiant
doesn't that time feel like it's like it's flying past?
And so all the New Zealand franchise franchises are going
to be rocking a bit of a retro look. Yeah,
but I guess you know thirty years of professional rugby
in New Zealand and see the game's changed in that time,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
I remember the first game and in the cargo under
lights and Super Rugby in ninety six, I was on
a bus coming from Northern Southland. The Highlanders played the Chiefs.
Chiefs went on that occasion, but just the terraces were
absolutely choker.
Speaker 9 (36:24):
Yeah, your memories better than mine. I do you remember
game for the odd game at Kerisbrook at the time.
I remember one memorable Highland as Hurricanes game Jimmy Barnes
played at halftime. But yeah, I think they were probably
the healthy in days in some ways because you had
some some of those great personalities who were sort of
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right on the end of that amateur era and they
were pretty much able to sort of take an amateur
attitude into the professional into the professional game, so they
were sort of still training like amateurs, but getting paid
for the privilege, which you know, was probably a great
opportunity for those guys who were just able to cash
in at the end of their careers.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
In nineteen ninety six, I remember that game end Foster
at number ten for the Chiefs and playing very very
well as well when you think about it, so gee,
how time flies? Now? The ashes, the two day ashes?
What did you make of this?
Speaker 9 (37:21):
I call it a barkle, But it was hard not
to feel ripped off, wasn't it. You were sort of
settling in for what we're anticipating as being a really
great and competitive series between these two teams, and by
the end of the weekend, she was all finished. She
was all dun and dusted. So yeah, hard not to
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feel ripped off. And I guess if I was an
English cricket fan who paid thousands of pounds to get
myself to Australia to watch what was a pretty enticing
first matchup in Perth, I'd be feeling even more ripped off.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
But Mark would as well. He wanted to drive from
Perth to add Perith, sorry to Brisbane, to get his
mind off things. He didn't realize it was two eight
hundred and thirty two miles.
Speaker 9 (38:10):
Yeah, so as long as preps, as well as some
lessons and slightly more conservative batting. Maybe the team made
a few geography lessons. Is that what you say?
Speaker 1 (38:18):
I think it's a bit like that too. But look,
basball didn't work for the first innings watching it fold
and I made a point of watching a lot of
that first day and it's nineteen wickets alone, It's like,
what is going on here? Like second day England were
one hundred for one effectively at lunch they lost a
heap of wickets and then Travis here came out and
played his own basball.
Speaker 9 (38:40):
Yeah, I think that's probably the most confounding piece of
the whole thing. As you say, England was in such
a commanding position early on in their second dig and
they probably only needed another half an hour, maybe an
hour of good betting, and they would have completely batted
Australia out of that game. But yeah, the things things
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just completely completely fell apart, and they it wasn't so
much even just I guess the Bear's ball and trying
to be attacking. It was. It was sort of a
I mean they were half shots. There was there was
maybe one, you know, one you would say was was
a really good nut and the rest of them were
It just feels like Australia no, if they can just
sort of you know, just bowl wide enough, yeah that
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the you know that England will just knack off and
and that's that's the way it proved. And then obviously
Travis Head turned around and did Travis Head things at
the same time. And I guess Australia's biggest question mark
now is whether they you know, whether they keep persisting
with Osmond Kuwaja give him some sort of a fairy
tale send off on his home track at Brisbane, or
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whether they cut him now and let him go and
play even more golf.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
But is there a room for sentiment for someone like
Osmond Kuwajah.
Speaker 9 (39:56):
Yeah, it's interesting times. I think the probably the the
cricket Australia selectors are a little bit more sentimental than
they have been in the past and that's probably why
they've why they have sort of persisted. Yeah, he's been
a great servant for Australian cricket obviously, and there've been
a lot of people saying that. You know, obviously, golf's
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a big part of getting the brain right and getting
away from the game can be pretty all consuming, so
it's not necessarily that. But there's only a handful of
Australian cricketers that have played continued to play in their
in their late thirties, and not many of them have
been able to do it successfully. So he is bucking
the trend to a certain extent. But yeah, would yes,
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the sentimentalist in me would would love to see him
sort of bow out on his own terms. In Brisbane.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
The black Caps have got the first Test against the
West Indies next week. This is not exciting me one
but in Test cricket, I love it. But I don't
known if we've just got to be happy with what
we've got being Kiwi cricket fans.
Speaker 9 (40:58):
Right, yeah we do. Yeah, We've got a massive year
of red ball cricket coming up next year. Yeah. I
think it's the thing that's probably keeping Kane Williamson going
in terms of international cricket. So I guess this is
this isn't in a lot of ways, this is the
this is the appetizer to what's a big twenty twenty
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six programs. So we will take We'll take West Indies
and they are a team that can at times lift
in red ball. So I know we will go in
as a heavy favorite, especially at home. We played very
good Test cricket on our own decks. But you know,
I don't think the black Caps as we as we
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found out against a second string South African Test team
not that long ago, we're not a team that can
afford to be complacent even against teams that don't have
a great recent red ball record.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah, it'll be in the recent how that works out.
Of course next year we've got that three tests over
and Nassy perhaps the little carrot there on the end
of the fishing line for Cam Williamson as you talked about.
Speaker 9 (42:03):
Yeah, and you know, I think locally we'll have a
very close eye on you Duffly duff Man here with it.
Whether Jake obviously he's in that squad of fourteen, it's
just so competitive in terms of who's going to be
amongst those medium paces, Spleaar Tickner, Nathan Smith, Zach Folks,
who's going to be joining Matt Henry And but yeah,
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i'd love to see Jake sharing that new ball with
Matt Henry. He obviously made his Test debut earlier in
the season over in Zimbabwe, but to be able to
play a home Test match with the very special occasion
for the Big South.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
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did he go on again?
Speaker 9 (44:04):
For?
Speaker 1 (44:05):
P did writes and presents start selling action to a
sure at the Charlton sale you out this morning? Dave
Morrison was on the ground to give us a rundown
of prices tea. You're good afternoon, Good to see you're
doing your job. What's happening good as Andy?
Speaker 6 (44:18):
Yeah, look, I just have to buy me value at
the moment that at ray Bourne, which is justin Richard
Williams property, just have some very very good kettle yelling kettle.
So anyone out there was getting Kettle give me a
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two or three nine store ms today and he missed
the hundred and fifty dollars and Milliams one thirty five
forty was the smaller of the story. Leans ran one
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twenty twenty five dollars. So he's selling selling pretty strongly,
and it ripped it up.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
And if anybody wants torching Jeffers Kettle, get in touched.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
Right, tell them to wring me this afternoon.
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Yep, well then you will
Good afternoon, and welcome to the muster on Hocknowie. My
name is Andy Meer here until two o'clock this afternoon.
Thanks for Peter's genetics. I appreciate your company. On an
afternoon of blue sky with some cloud on the horizon,
looking ahead to the southern storm. Shout at Nigel Wood
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going to be too bad to be honest if you're
hitting up there, but I showed you get through before that.
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and Woodlands at thirteen point six. As we start the
show today with Rob Scott's Southend District Mayor, the government's
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made noises over the past forty eight hours about council amalgamations.
Now Rob's been hot hot under the cholera regarding this
issue for the last twelve months, so he towlses in
his word as well, he think this is a good
thing to be talking about. Peter Gardine Farms and nap Dales.
We have a regular catchup see how things are going
on the farm. Bruce Ford, our Stuart Island correspondent, talks
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about all happenings down there, a beautiful Stuart Island. Is
always good to catch up with Bruce, as we do
every couple of months. Carrie McKenzie it'll be from their
New Zealand joins us this afternoon talking the next gym
program and Nathan Burdon, our resident sporting guru looking at
the Highlanders. A new jersey has been released for next season,
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well for all the Super Rugby teams. Actually Dave Morrison
for PGG Rising is an update from the Chardon sw Yards.
Then we start the hour with Rob Scott. You're listening
to the Muster until two o'clock thanks to Peters Genetics.
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Rab Scott is the mayor of the Southland District Region
and joins us this afternoon. Of course, the news came
out in the last couple of days regarding the proposal
to get rid of a the Counsel's super cities and
the likes will occur in certain parts of the country
depending on where you're based. But Rob Scott was one
of the drivers of this about this time last year,
even earlier, and joins us this afternoon to give us
(03:13):
a bit of further comment. Good afternoon, Rob, you must
feel rather vindicated.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah, good afternoon, Andy. Yeah, it's quite interesting hearing some
of the interviews with the likes of Chris Bishop and
he's been using the same words that I was using
over a year ago. So yeah, it's the government's caught
up with what's happened was doing.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Why do you think this has come to the attention
all of a sudden.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I think there's a number of factors that when you
look at I mean, I know the turnout that the
elections has sort of spacked a bit of voter turn
out at the elections have spact a bit of discussion
as well. But I think it's I mean, it's been
time for change for quite a while and it's what
I've been saying, and I love the words the mirror.
What we've been saying was simplifying local government in the
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country and actually trying to get stuff done and do
it efficiently and get that engagement up. So yeah, I
think the government's recognized. I'd like to take all the
credit and say they've they've read thousand's proposal and gone, well,
this will work up and down the country, so let's
mirror that. But yeah, it's good to see that it's
been recognized.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Have you been talking to Chris special but or lately
by chance not In.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
The last couple of months, I didn't see well, I
did see the announcement coming at some stage, but yeah,
we didn't have any heads up that it was coming
on with us, so it was a surprise to us
as though, although yeah, not a huge surprise that.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
It was there.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
So yeah, we've talked about this before as well. I mean,
over two hundred people were elected to local body politics,
whether they were mayors or councilors unopposed, and that's certainly
got to be a catalyst for change though, just when
it comes to wasteful spending.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, yeah, and it's well, I mean the other words
that they've been using that mirrored what we've been saying
of their duplication, the the siloed kind of approach, all
of those sorts of things where we're just yeah, there's
a much better way of doing it.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
As far as Ben Bell Core District mayor, I do
you remember foul Cheer of environments Southland? Tom Campbell and Macawgan.
Have you been in a much dialogue of these people
regarding what's going on.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, we've had initial chats. I was actually at a
meeting with Todd McLay on, Sorry of lost Shrek of days.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Now what day are we We're on Thursday?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Thursday, so yeah, Tuesday, Tuesday night, so that the day
of the announcement, and Jeremy was there and had a
quick catch up with him and had had a bit
of a chat with Ben afterwards. I'm going to try
and have a chat with Tom today to see where
we all kind of said Jeremy was looking a bit
just tendably shell shocked. It's the timing is not that
great in terms of having just gone through an election
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and then having that that bomb bombshell drop that. Yeah,
that all of the councilors are going to be potentially
out of a out of a role. But I mean
you can't carry on waiting for these things to happen either.
It's long overdue.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Well, the human is there. The timing stinks, Kevin. We've
just had an election a couple of months ago, especially
around environment Southland.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah, although when you look at it from the southend
point of view, I mean we've been having this discussion
for a while now and just reading through the full
We had a council meeting yesterday so I didn't have
a chance until this morning to actually have a good
read through the full proposal. But when you look at
the outcomes of what they're wanting to achieve, we can
take all of them off with the vocal that we
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sent through in February of this year. So it's that
middle step of having the regional councils governed by the
three mayors. We could probably avoid that to that to me,
doesn't sound like a simple approach and just go straight
to the final outcome of having the two unitaries in Southland,
and that's going to deliver the best bank for back
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for for our people and the most simple form of
local governance as well.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Rob, can we afford the cost of amalgamation because there's
a lot of money going into consultants, YadA, YadA, YadA,
you know the drill, and there's going to be a
heck of a lot of coin change hands before this
actually comes to fruition.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
See. I don't actually think Andy, that we need to
spend a lot of money on it. We've done a
lot of the groundwork in terms of that proposal. We've
got really good local democracy for our community boards through
everything there. We've got systems in place already. I don't
think we need to make it. I think, following the
government rhetoricative keeping it simple, we can do a simple
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amalgamation or reorganization as well. We don't need to make
that too complicated either. And as they're looking at the
roles and functions of local government at the same time
and where the duplication lies, we don't need to get
a whole lot of consultants, and our best consultants are
actually our rate payers in our community who we're actually
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there to serve, and they'll have their expectations of what
we need to do. And yeah, I don't think we
need to spend a whole lot of mon on it.
It's the money that we're spending in a broken system
that I'm worried about and the money that we're wasting.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
All right, payers voicing, well, a few people actually saying
in the last couple of days Rob as well that
there's not going to be a lot of money saved
if amalgamations occur as well.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, it's if you do amalgamation for amalgamation stake, you're
not going to save any money. And it's important to
get the end result, right. I Mean, you look at
that intermediary model. But the government's proposed with the I
think we're god a CTB or whatever it's called. The
mayor's sitting on that board, you're still going to be
running through and having the regional council there with the
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duplicated kind of services and planning and all of that
kind of stuff. So the model that we proposed does
actually have savings because we're removing a lot of that duplication.
You're still going to have the CEO of the regional council.
Under that intermediary model. If we jump straight to the outcome,
we're removing a lot of those overheads and those costs
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as well, including the planning. So get into those innuitry
authorready outcomes as where we will get the savings and
we'll get them a lot faster if we skip that
intermediate steps.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Okay, let's use Tepanui as an example. That's end the
material licensing trust boundaries. Although it comes under a Targo
regional council jurisdiction, there could be a stickler.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yeah, it could be.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
And it's interesting. I saw in one of the pages
of their twenty nine page document this morning that they're
not going to look at the regional boundaries as part
of this, And there have been some people that have said, look,
you can include the sort of the Blue Mountain area
around into South End, and I mean it starts to
complicate it a little bit when you sort of cross
those regional council boundaries. But yeahs going to be a
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few little nuances in there, but I'm sure we can
work through those. As they go through. But the bigger
picture of getting the model right I think is the
most important part.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
So as far as close the district council, would you
be keen to get them involved as well?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Oh, we can have conversations, I think one of the things.
And of having a look at the national map yesterday
that the government put forward, which has got all the
boundaries and everything on, and when you look at the
South and District it's essentially it's like I'm just talking
about our current area as a district council. It's bigger
than a lot of the regions south. So we're effectively
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a region already from a size point of view, and
you don't want to go too big from a geography
point of view, and it's one of the risks when
we just focus on population, we end up getting too
big geographically and then we end up getting the bloated
staff levels because you've got to have additional staff to
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cover the area because one person can't cover that entire space,
and then you end up getting extra managers in and
you get all that kind of stuff that we're trying
to avoid in that piece, and you don't get that
same connected kind of democracy. And when you look at
the voter turnout. Auckland's probably got the worst in the
whole country. And that's a very big, unitary authority covering
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quite a wide area, but the people are very disconnected
from their elected members, which puts them off sotting when
you look at the voter turnout down south and I
know Gore did very well and Stuart Island actually got
sixty something percent. So when you get that smaller connected area,
you get a much better engagement. So it's getting that
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balance right between your population and your geography and your
representation and sort of linking it all through. So it's
quite important to look at those boundaries and how it
all ties them together.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
It's all hypothetical at the stage, rob but then you
look at the area like Gorth, it's debt loading, historical debt, etc.
This comes under the equation as well. It's got to
be distributed fairly.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, no, it does. And those are sort of details
that we can work out. But again you don't need
consultants to do that. You've got really good staff, We've
got really good governance, good information, good insights. We can
do a lot of it ourselves locally.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Is there arrested that amalgamations though don't work and what
happens then, well.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
If you get it right, you design it to succeed,
not to fail. And I guess that's one of my
reasons for not involving something designed by Wellington. It needs
to be designed locally by our people, for our people,
and if we do that, it's got a very high
chance of working where it's going to fail, as if
the government actually tries to design everything and do a
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Wellington top down and do it to us. So it's
really important that as the Southern Region we focus on
the outcomes for our communities and we all work together,
even to the means some of us are going to
be out of our jobs, but we've got to work
towards those outcomes for our people and never be designed.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
By the peace good owner. I've always appreciate your time
on the muster no worse thanks Andy, Rob Scott, South
and District Council Mayor South and District Mayor for that matter,
about council amalgamations back on the table all of a
sudden after Chris Bishop's announcement on Tuesday evening, this is
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the muster up next Peter Gard and Farming a Natdale.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
This interview brought to you by agriss Iner South Branches
in Laudeville, Gore, Cromwell, Milton and Ranfilly. Dropped by your
local Agressenter South Branch today.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Peter Gardine Farms and Napdale and joins us once again
on the muster Pete House. Aggs.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Yeah, good good Dale Farm today, so yeah, not a
bad wee look around. What are you have to I
did a training day for the harvesters that we use,
and yeah, full credit to the team there. They've got
a whole lot of guys from overseas here and teaching
us how to drive head is better and yeah, have
been really impressed over the last couple of years at
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the support that they've given us around driver optimization and training.
And my head is a secondhand heater. It's not the fanciest,
newest one or anything like that. But with harvesters, I
think there's always so much you can do better has
to do a better job, and yeah, it has been
really useful when I feel like we're getting more out
of our machine, which is a bit of a win
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all round and currently a very expensive part of the
business having machinery.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
How do you get on with technology in general. Though
when you're driving a harvested he's quite a bit there.
You've got to get on the uptake to be honest.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Yeah, there is mine still. It's fifteen years old, so
it's a nice modern heater, but it's not the fanciest
newest ones. And yeah, I think the technology things starting
to talk better, you know, in regards to tractors and
the likes. There was a while there. I think it
went through that awkward teenager phase where it was kind
of good and kind of not and things talk to
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other things, but not there, and I think with I
think we're sort of rounding out that circle now that
most stuff coming out's pretty awesome. And yeah, ice bust
and all that's talking pretty well to each other. And
I think you'd be crazy to buy modern stuff without
that tech when ten years ago it was sort of
hit and miss. You know, half your gear ahead at
half it didn't And.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, well, let's be honest. The tractors from a few
quite a few years ago, it was a sixteen mil
spanner and I can to see see maybe some blinded
twain and you're away laughing. These days they hook it
into a computer to fix it.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Oh, you did right. And the other thing around that,
I mean, my oldest boy is coming of an age
where he's not far away from learning how to drive
a tractor. And there aren't those basic, boring jobs that
there was when I was at age. So it's going
to be around what do we put them on first
to keep things safe and keep them learning, but not
not put them out of their depth. Because when I learned,
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you just had a three minute pair of Harry behind
one hundred and fifteen horse power tractor and there was
no theater on that pair or anything like that, and
it was all pretty basic. And you ha, do we
three meter roller? And yeah, everything's just so much bigger
and more expensive because we've sort of got to make
it all pay. And yeah, I think, how do we
get those young guys and girls into a job like
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that that's you know, doable for them, you know, to
get them started in that side of things is a
bit of a challenge.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
When you look at the situation on farm at the moment, Pete,
how's it competer this time last year?
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Would you say, yeah, we're taking over pretty good at
the moment. The weather you're ear in November, which in
October sorry, which helped. Then we probably talking us some
ram clients down south. We only got half the rainfall
that they got in September and October. I wasn't actually
aware of how it was on the rainfall front down
there where Actually I'm looking for rain at home. We
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are losing a little bit of production to the dry
but that's pretty standard for us at home there, so
not too bad. We are finding a cobboalt or a
B twelve levels in their lambs is below where I'd
wanted to. Their room levels in their lambs are really good,
but we are needing that BE twelve, which is frustrating.
In the last couple of years we've been struggling on
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that front. So I think we're going to go to
jabbing at tailing as well as the cold bolt on
the ground. Yeah, so that's sort of their front. The
Swedes are going in the ground at the moment. Everything
else is sort of up and looking up too bad,
but just ye need to keep these little bits of
rain coming through. So I think we're only sitting on
about twenty smells of rain for November at home.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Have you been testing for worms when you drench?
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Yeah, we've had the really arrange, but they've been pretty
pretty good. We've actually ended up drenching them more to
give them the B twelve, which really annoys me because
they could have not come through the shed and not
have all that sort of done along acting B twelve
at tailing time, so that's frustrating. We've given up drenching
on mum in the hill and we've actually seen a
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lift and when weights. I don't think that not drenching
them has raised their whining way, So I'm not that
but I do think at least it hasn't had a
negative effect, and I do think.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
The least pop animals come through it the yards.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
As long as they're not in need of something. It
is definitely a big plus from a workload in an
animal wealthare point of view.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
The schedule sounds as it's going to remain pretty buoyant
depending on who you speak to. I've spoken to a
couple of agents who seem pretty glass half full regarding it.
What are you hearing.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
The reports? I hear as it's pretty positive and allegedly
it is tied to fundamentals of the dollar and overseas markets.
When we're in Aussie in the winter, there is a
genuine shortage of animals around. I am too scared to
put the official forecast and my budget, my budget is
running a lower forecast than that because I'm not quite
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brave enough to put those numbers in because the seat
farmer me just isn't quite sure if we can hold that.
But either way, I mean, it's not like it's amazing
what we've got for dry hogits and with dry hogits
what we're seeing a load of cattle yesterday, So it's
going to be interesting to see what the sheet looks
like on them. And I think it's the time for
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all the guys and girls out there that have you know,
done it pretty tough the last couple of years and
kept reinventing in their business. This is the time to
make some hay and you know, make the most of
us this year, this year and the following years to come.
And yeah, I just hope everybody has you know, makes
the most of this financial situation that's out there, because
they all deserve it.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, absolutely, Pete, We'll let you carry on. It's a
bit windy where you are, but go back in there
and learn a bit more about GPUs than the like say, yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
No, We'll be ubscured by the end of the day,
and I'll be slightly less slightly less done by the
end of the day.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Pete guardin. Yeah, there's a lot to be said about
the old Ford five thousands, right, you've got the sixteen
mil spender, the five point fifty six number eight blinded
fine number eight. Why sorry, but a blinded fine. It's
amazing what you can fix when you needed to. Times
have moved on. I suppose as is a Kerry McKenzie
out of Beef and Lamb, which at next.
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Click beeflambenz dot com. Who's going to be fun? Same
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is a big thing for Beef and Lamb, and Carrie
is a part of this and joins this this afternoon
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to tell us why you should be a part of it.
Good afternoon, carry thanks for joining us.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
Is halla okay, Carrie?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Tell us about yourself where you're from, your farming background?
Speaker 8 (20:42):
So I'm eighteen years old. I went to Central Southern
College and just finished your protein last year. So I've
just spent in the year working on the family farm
at home because my dad had an injury. So yeah,
just a sheep farm running about two thousand sheep eight
hundred hog.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Have you had a decent season to date.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
Yeah, it's been pretty good. Obviously, with the weather recently
and all the trees coming down hasn't been great, but
it's been great to be working full time and really
knowing what it's like in the sector and everything.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
You're straight out of school going into the sheep and
beef sector. Was that always the plan or let you say,
your dad's injury kind of forced your handle it.
Speaker 8 (21:22):
Yeah, dad's injury definitely keeps me at home working. But
I think I'll do some study in the agricultural sector,
but I'm just not sure what sort of end of
it I'll go into.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
So you're thinking likes of Telford or Lincoln or the.
Speaker 8 (21:35):
Likes maybe Lincoln.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
So have you always had an interest in sheep farming?
Speaker 8 (21:41):
Yeah, So, as I said, I grew up on a
sheep farm. Very hands on, you know, I really do
enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
So what do you most enjoy about it? From your perspective.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
Stock work just working stock. I love lemming very just
so tired.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
You love lembing like very rewarding time. It can be
the best of jobs. It can be the worst of
the jobs. It depends on what mother nature provides.
Speaker 8 (22:05):
Very swiftful time can be pretty awful at moments, but
then you look around and you're like, yep, I did that.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Now the gym next course? What got you involved?
Speaker 8 (22:14):
Uh So my NEIGHBORSI owner, she was running it and
she was like, oh, this could be quite good for
you since like you're going to be down here anyway.
So I signed up and I got it, and yeah,
it's been really good so far.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
So tell us all about it. What's involved?
Speaker 8 (22:29):
So there's four modules free, of which are in parison
and just one online, so you know, there was like
a finance course, so that was really interesting, just learning
about how to manage our essets because it's four people
aged eighteen to thirty, so a younger crowd sort of
getting into that next step of farming and taking over
ownership as such.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
And how many days and the months are you involved
with this? So what's a time frame?
Speaker 8 (22:55):
I suppose, So it's over the year, but there's only
about four in person days, one of which is like
a weekend as such, like two days, and then one
online after work. So we probably started back around April
May as such.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Have you enjoyed it?
Speaker 8 (23:16):
Yeah, I've enjoyed it. It's been really good, like this
knowledge like stuff I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
So what's been the most what's been your favorite part
of it? You say you're learning all the time. What's
really stood out?
Speaker 8 (23:28):
So we went up to Moscule and went to MMAS.
That was really cool. We did a tour of the
farm and like the rooms and all that, so just
seeing how they did things up via worth animal testing
and stuff and SEF account all that sort of stuff
really fascinating.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
So what are your words of advice to anybody who
wants to get involved with this?
Speaker 8 (23:51):
I would say differently, sign up like a really chilled.
The people you make are really cool, like everyone's sort
of like each other and such, all very farming.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
So it's eighteen to thirty, the eighteen year olds talking
to the thirty year olds. Are they gaining and are
you gaining a lot of knowledge?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (24:07):
So like in my sense, I'm fresh out of school,
whereas they're about to take over a farm and it's
like interesting they tell stories of like the years they
were it compared to me being fresh into it as such,
the twelve year age gap, Like it's information that's knowledgeable
to all of us, like we've all learned stuffing.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 8 (24:29):
We do a lot of interesting topics.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
So when does the next installment of Next Gen of
Next course take place?
Speaker 8 (24:37):
So they do start just before Christmas like doing and
still like reaching out to people like posting about it,
but it will go through to about the few days
like decently, if you're at the YMMO field days like
go talk to them about it. Sign up, like that's
when I'll really be taking people in.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yes, certainly looks as though it's some Agriculture's got good
young people coming through the ranks. Carry Hey, thanks to your
time on the must of this afternoon. Always good to
catch up with the younger generation coming through with a
passion for the industry. And appreciated your time.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Perfect.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
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to your inbox every Friday. Bruce Ford is up next,
down at Stuart Island yesterday, Lord Duran. Duran is the artist.
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The song is called Ordinary World. You're listening to the muster.
Although it's fair to say our next guest lives in
somewhere that is pretty extraordinary to coin a phrase, Bruce
Ford lives down at Stuart Island, their correspondent from down
that way. We catch up from time to time. Bruce,
Good afternoon, Good afternoon, Andy, how you today. Oh look,
it's the weather's on its way up. It's it's a
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thing of beauty after what we've experienced over the past
couple of months.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
Yeah, it's made a considerable difference around here. And we've
got a nice sunny day here and now, and whilst
it's been a few days of that, the all the
lawns and need need mowing, and everything's growing like pretty crazy.
I've got a large hydroponics letus operation going and there
was sunshine and that, and the other day it was
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up to the best part of thirty degrees on nutrient,
which is it's a pretty good push really.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
The windstorm we head in the south a few weeks back.
Now down there you reckon, you got off pretty scott free, Bruce.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
Ah, Yes, we did do it well. We did get
some wind, and that's a regular occasion here. We will
be pretty strong and things were tied.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Down pretty good.
Speaker 7 (26:55):
But certainly I couldn't find anywhere where I'd going any firewoods,
So that's a the level of what we got so
compared to the rest of the region.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
But down there on Stewart Island, a lot of school
groups have been down there lately. It's the tourism season.
Cruise ships have they been in abundance.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
Cruise ships are started off again, so we've had had
a few of those in I can't recall an angel them.
But whilst cruise ships have been threatened other parts of
the country, I think our teams still hold pretty good.
So we've been reasonably successful.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
So you're seeing no change in numbers visiting numbers.
Speaker 7 (27:31):
The cruise ships or they're pretty kenny. They fucking choose
a bit now on again, off again, but I think
we should regard them as bonus anyways, because we've had
lots of other tourists. There's bird watchers and the likes
at this time of years, things just quite busy here,
so you know where we're pleased with that.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Would you say tourist numbers are back to pre COVID levels.
Speaker 7 (27:54):
I haven't checked the numbers, but my belief is that
they will be, and we get a good on that
from our visit to levy records when I get reports
on that, and I haven't seen a recent one, but
I believed pretty much back to pre COVID.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
So what's the levy for going to Stuart Islander?
Speaker 7 (28:15):
Fifteen dollars currently started off at five and it's just
in corporate and the fair and I've not heard a
murmur that anybody's even noticed it.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Oh why would you? I mean, you're quite happy to
play it. If you've got to go somewhere, there needs
to be expenditure, some infrastructures in place, right.
Speaker 7 (28:32):
Well exactly, And we've collected an excess of one and
a half million dollars. It's been used on community facilities
and jetties and walking tracks and toilets that sort of thing,
so things that rape players surely can't be expected to
pay for.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
You talk about tourists, if you talk about ships, but
the Navy they've been in town as well.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
Yeah, we didn't think we had a defense problem. But
the Navy turned up yesterday and that was a bit
of a bonus round town. There were lots of sailors
ashore and Takaha. The school kids apparently had a visit
to the ship and they had looked round, so I
believe there was one hundred and sixty of proboard there.
They sailed again last night eight o'clock, so they were
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heading for the need and so certainly gave them a
bit of fresh air, and no doubt spent some money
because some of the eateries were quite pleased to see them.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
So they weren't coming to check your hydro products set.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
Up, No, No, probably they'd probably get their own sheer
and green for sure.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Now one figure that absolutely stounds with Stuart Island is
the amount of vehicles there. I think you see. Was
that six hundred odd vehicles? Is that right? Yep? Yeah,
and twenty k's of road. But the good news is
that the roads are getting resealed.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
Yes, somewhere I spected up for Christmas. They all it's
a regular sequence now fifteen years or so, and they
gravel stop poles, the ceiling chips have been accumulating for
the last few months because of course it's all going
to be shipped, and no doubt the finger will turn
up after Christmas and there'll be two or three weeks
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to time they get evening tidied up, and then we'll
get some fresh road markings and everything. It'll be stick
and Spain.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
You're got to be honest, every fifteen years they relydo
the roads for you. Must be pretty exciting.
Speaker 7 (30:28):
Yeah, well I try it, and it's a bit of
a different smell around the roads for a little while.
But of course we don't have any major heavy vehicles
on them, so they don't take as much damage as
your heavy trucks do on your side. Well, the only
smell cutting off those roads will be the smell of progress,
i'd suggest. Oh yeah, exactly. And you know it's a
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bit tidy up because there's always a few repairs happened
prior to it, and patching and water tables and all
that stuff, so it's a good reason to get things
it up.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Now. Are solar upgrades on the cards as well.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
Yes, we've had some time ago a few months ago
where Matt Patterson turned up with a blessing for the
community with some regional development money for solar farm. So
that's to happen after Christmas, at the start of it anyway,
and there'll be some upgrades with their lines, system, desil generators, batteries,
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so that in theory we should now ever get a
power cup again and hopefully the price will change on
reduce their price because we paid eighty five cents a
unit currently and there are some suggests in that thirty
or forty cents and it will be a reduction from
our eighty five.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Well as far as infrastructure around that, that's fantastic.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
Yeah, I want to make a hell of a difference
to anybody in business because you know, the power villas
are a fair chunk of course, and on top of electricity,
we use LPG for cooking, the eating coal, all those things.
So our power bills will mine's four hundred bucks of months.
But everybody in town that gets fort and la bill
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has electric stove and water, eating and everything electric. So
we have to skim and scrape aweave it.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Well, it's probably not that easy to go and get
a guess, but a lot image.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
I know we have a regular guest supply here at
guest shunting stations over just a local garage supply the guests,
so it's pretty straightforward.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
The local garage will be a master of all trades too.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
Oh hell, yes, yes, yes, of course they are because
I used to work for the one stage.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Oh there you go, say no more, Bruce. Now, one
thing that's really yours about Stuart Island when I've spoken
to you in the past is the fact that you'll
see key we walking down the street. But another thing
at the moment is the doctrial they're nesting and it's
bringing people to the island. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (32:56):
The latest reports that Dark have been putting out in
the media, of course, is a positive positive response for
the Dodtoral nesting in Petstin around Rapi Her and so forth.
And because of the poison operation at Rid of some
cats and wraps and things, the Dodtorals apparently are doing
very well. The council are increasing dramatically and that's looking
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pretty good.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Just finally as well. You're a former counselor for the
Southland District. I spoke to Rob Scott earlier in the
program about the chance of the malgamations of councilors. What
are your thoughts around this.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
I agree that it's well overdue. You know, we've only
got one hundred thousand people in Southland and four councilors
is a bit rich. We could do a whole lot
of bet on that and fully supporting Robin has attempts
to have it changed around, but regional councilors have got
out of hand. So I agree with Shane Jones on
that one. That's a great move.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
So an area like Stuart Island would benefit.
Speaker 7 (33:58):
Well, nothing really will change, you just get just reshaped
of it. You know, we had reorganization in eighty nine
when we had our own council here and that got
a Melbourn ate into Southam and we've managed on that
and that's been successful. So I don't see any reason
why if the steple of regional council. But the work
(34:21):
will still go on because those people will still get
a job, they will still be work to just the
headings will change.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Good on your Bruce, Always appreciate your time on the muster.
You enjoy the afternoon on beautiful Stuart Island.
Speaker 7 (34:33):
I think you're very much sandy.
Speaker 9 (34:34):
Good on you.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yeah, Bruce Ford down at Stuart Island. There's a figure
for the pub tonight. Eight hundred vehicles on Stuart Island.
You'd never believe that, but that's outstanding. Nathan Burden is
the residents Sporting Gury. We talk about a sport. Next
you're listening to the Muster. Welcome back to the Muster.
(35:03):
It's happening this afternoon the Southern Storm. Shout at Nigel
wood Here's property at Level Slat halfway between Balcluther and
Milton studying at three o'clock this afternoon. If you're in
the vicinity, you want to heat up there by all
means at Emerson's tiny pub, the Spates Bar. They're going
to be there, the Milton Lions on the Barbie silverfar
and Farms has got the meat for the barbecue and
(35:24):
there's going to be a and Z the with a
coffee and ice cream card as well. So it's happening
at three o'clock the Savoy. Many thanks to Nigel and
Leanne Woodhead. As we catch up with our residence Sporting
Gury Nathan burdon house things You.
Speaker 9 (35:36):
Good mate yourself?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah, pretty good. I'm just looking at the new Highlanders jersey.
It's been released for next season. It's a throwback to
nineteen ninety six. My first look at it was it's
almost like they've gone for a bit of John McGlashan
college in there.
Speaker 9 (35:51):
Bit of aout. I guess thirty years of Super Apiant
doesn't that time feel like it's like it's flying past?
And so all the New Zealand franchise franchises are going
to be rocking a bit of a retro look. Yeah,
but I guess you know thirty years of professional rugby
in New Zealand and see the game's changed in that time,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
I remember the first game and in the cargo under
lights and Super Rugby in ninety six, I was on
a bus coming from Northern Southland. The Highlanders played the Chiefs.
Chiefs went on that occasion, but just the terraces were
absolutely choker.
Speaker 9 (36:24):
Yeah, your memories better than mine. I do you remember
game for the odd game at Kerisbrook at the time.
I remember one memorable Highland as Hurricanes game Jimmy Barnes
played at halftime. But yeah, I think they were probably
the healthy in days in some ways because you had
some some of those great personalities who were sort of
(36:46):
right on the end of that amateur era and they
were pretty much able to sort of take an amateur
attitude into the professional into the professional game, so they
were sort of still training like amateurs, but getting paid
for the privilege, which you know, was probably a great
opportunity for those guys who were just able to cash
in at the end of their careers.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
In nineteen ninety six, I remember that game end Foster
at number ten for the Chiefs and playing very very
well as well when you think about it, so gee,
how time flies? Now? The ashes, the two day ashes?
What did you make of this?
Speaker 9 (37:21):
I call it a barkle, But it was hard not
to feel ripped off, wasn't it. You were sort of
settling in for what we're anticipating as being a really
great and competitive series between these two teams, and by
the end of the weekend, she was all finished. She
was all dun and dusted. So yeah, hard not to
(37:43):
feel ripped off. And I guess if I was an
English cricket fan who paid thousands of pounds to get
myself to Australia to watch what was a pretty enticing
first matchup in Perth, I'd be feeling even more ripped off.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
But Mark would as well. He wanted to drive from
Perth to add Perith, sorry to Brisbane, to get his
mind off things. He didn't realize it was two eight
hundred and thirty two miles.
Speaker 9 (38:10):
Yeah, so as long as preps, as well as some
lessons and slightly more conservative batting. Maybe the team made
a few geography lessons. Is that what you say?
Speaker 1 (38:18):
I think it's a bit like that too. But look,
basball didn't work for the first innings watching it fold
and I made a point of watching a lot of
that first day and it's nineteen wickets alone, It's like,
what is going on here? Like second day England were
one hundred for one effectively at lunch they lost a
heap of wickets and then Travis here came out and
played his own basball.
Speaker 9 (38:40):
Yeah, I think that's probably the most confounding piece of
the whole thing. As you say, England was in such
a commanding position early on in their second dig and
they probably only needed another half an hour, maybe an
hour of good betting, and they would have completely batted
Australia out of that game. But yeah, the things things
(39:02):
just completely completely fell apart, and they it wasn't so
much even just I guess the Bear's ball and trying
to be attacking. It was. It was sort of a
I mean they were half shots. There was there was
maybe one, you know, one you would say was was
a really good nut and the rest of them were
It just feels like Australia no, if they can just
sort of you know, just bowl wide enough, yeah that
(39:25):
the you know that England will just knack off and
and that's that's the way it proved. And then obviously
Travis Head turned around and did Travis Head things at
the same time. And I guess Australia's biggest question mark
now is whether they you know, whether they keep persisting
with Osmond Kuwaja give him some sort of a fairy
tale send off on his home track at Brisbane, or
(39:48):
whether they cut him now and let him go and
play even more golf.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
But is there a room for sentiment for someone like
Osmond Kuwajah.
Speaker 9 (39:56):
Yeah, it's interesting times. I think the probably the the
cricket Australia selectors are a little bit more sentimental than
they have been in the past and that's probably why
they've why they have sort of persisted. Yeah, he's been
a great servant for Australian cricket obviously, and there've been
a lot of people saying that. You know, obviously, golf's
(40:17):
a big part of getting the brain right and getting
away from the game can be pretty all consuming, so
it's not necessarily that. But there's only a handful of
Australian cricketers that have played continued to play in their
in their late thirties, and not many of them have
been able to do it successfully. So he is bucking
the trend to a certain extent. But yeah, would yes,
(40:40):
the sentimentalist in me would would love to see him
sort of bow out on his own terms. In Brisbane.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
The black Caps have got the first Test against the
West Indies next week. This is not exciting me one
but in Test cricket, I love it. But I don't
known if we've just got to be happy with what
we've got being Kiwi cricket fans.
Speaker 9 (40:58):
Right, yeah we do. Yeah, We've got a massive year
of red ball cricket coming up next year. Yeah. I
think it's the thing that's probably keeping Kane Williamson going
in terms of international cricket. So I guess this is
this isn't in a lot of ways, this is the
this is the appetizer to what's a big twenty twenty
(41:20):
six programs. So we will take We'll take West Indies
and they are a team that can at times lift
in red ball. So I know we will go in
as a heavy favorite, especially at home. We played very
good Test cricket on our own decks. But you know,
I don't think the black Caps as we as we
(41:41):
found out against a second string South African Test team
not that long ago, we're not a team that can
afford to be complacent even against teams that don't have
a great recent red ball record.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah, it'll be in the recent how that works out.
Of course next year we've got that three tests over
and Nassy perhaps the little carrot there on the end
of the fishing line for Cam Williamson as you talked about.
Speaker 9 (42:03):
Yeah, and you know, I think locally we'll have a
very close eye on you Duffly duff Man here with it.
Whether Jake obviously he's in that squad of fourteen, it's
just so competitive in terms of who's going to be
amongst those medium paces, Spleaar Tickner, Nathan Smith, Zach Folks,
who's going to be joining Matt Henry And but yeah,
(42:25):
i'd love to see Jake sharing that new ball with
Matt Henry. He obviously made his Test debut earlier in
the season over in Zimbabwe, but to be able to
play a home Test match with the very special occasion
for the Big South.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Under good on your nas, always appreciate your time.
Speaker 9 (42:41):
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Speaker 1 (42:55):
After thirty years of marriage, Tom and Sandra went to counseling.
When asked what the proper was, Sandra goes into a
tirade listing every problem that ever hadn't the years have
been married. On and on she goes neglect, lack of intimacy, emptiness, loneliness,
feeling unloved and unlovable, an entire laundry list of unmet
needs she has endured. Finally, after getting this, after allowing
(43:17):
this for a sufficient length of time, the therapist gets up,
walks around the desk and asks Sandra to stand. He
embraces her passionately and kisses her long and hard. While
Tom watches have raised eyebrows. Sandra sits down stunned and silent.
The therapist turns to Tom and says, this is what
your wife needs at least three times a week. Can
you handle that? Tom? Thanks for a moment? In replies, Well,
(43:39):
I can bring her in on Mondays and Wednesdays, but
on Fridays I go fishing. That's us for the afternoon.
Hopefully I'll see you up at the shout this afternoon,
the Southern Farmers Shout at Nigel wood Is property. I'm
Andy Muir. This has been the muster on HAWKERNI many
things to Peter's genetics. Enjoy the afternoon see tomorrow. Hey,
(44:02):
well all right, sure haven we go there? And what
did he go on again?
Speaker 9 (44:04):
For?
Speaker 1 (44:05):
P did writes and presents start selling action to a
sure at the Charlton sale you out this morning? Dave
Morrison was on the ground to give us a rundown
of prices tea. You're good afternoon, Good to see you're
doing your job. What's happening good as Andy?
Speaker 6 (44:18):
Yeah, look, I just have to buy me value at
the moment that at ray Bourne, which is justin Richard
Williams property, just have some very very good kettle yelling kettle.
So anyone out there was getting Kettle give me a
bell this afternoon. Just the specta tous yelling in mask
today any very strong they the best news two fifty
(44:38):
two sixty billion, sort of one five A couple hundred
was the light to use the light night use around
ten hundred and thirty dollars into the prime vands. The
couple ring them come ondred dollars.
Speaker 7 (44:52):
Five.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
We have to explain specially in hu gard this we're
on just a handful of colns there three out of
four the eight dollars becoming pet fourteen two legs just
two or three nine store ms today and he missed
the hundred and fifty dollars and Milliams one thirty five
forty was the smaller of the story. Leans ran one
(45:14):
twenty twenty five dollars. So he's selling selling pretty strongly,
and it ripped it up.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
And if anybody wants torching Jeffers Kettle, get in touched.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
Right, tell them to wring me this afternoon.
Speaker 6 (45:23):
There's a very good lineup of yelling Kettle his day.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
Yep, well then you will
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