October 28, 2025 • 44 mins
Andy Muir talks to Joseph Mooney, Jared Stockman, James Edgar, Sam Ruddenklau and Matt McRae.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Good afternoon, and welcome to the muster on hock and EWI.
My name is Andy Mueller. Here until two o'clock, of course,
thanks to Peterson LX. Welcome along to hump Day. We'll
talk about the situation down here in the South shortly,
but it's just about ram season. Dare I say it's
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(00:34):
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Speaker 2 (00:55):
Right.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
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Speaker 1 (01:07):
We need a steady set of hands at the moment.
This afternoon showers of breezy westerlies and twelve. Thursday afternoon
showers of breezy west west northwesterlies five and fourteen. Friday
morning showers of breezy west sow Westley's one and eleven.
Saturday sunny with breezy westerlyes five and fifteen, and Sundays
change it up with it sanny with breezy nor westerlyes
(01:28):
seven and nineteen. So temperatures to hand northern South and
nine point one Riveton eleven, Tiana nine point five went
in eight point six at Woodlands as well eight point
six South and the MP Joseph Mooney catch us off
to start the hour. Looking at the situation. Jared Stockram
from dairy en Z was some reminders, I suppose for
(01:50):
the dairying sector, considering the situation we're facing, how people
are coping from his perspective, and our people actually putting
their hands on saying I need a hand at the moment.
James egga farm's a maa flat. Not only has it
been windy, but has been snowy as well. So James
tell tells us all about the trials and tribulation of
the last week of October Sam running Claw from Moult
(02:13):
McLain plus more talks about implications of this weather around
what you have on the farm there regarding thing comeing
the likes, how do you negate the situation insurance claims.
Sam touches on that. Have we wrap up the yewls.
Matt McCrae of course familiar voice, but today talking on
behalf of the Beef and Land Southern Farmer Council about
(02:33):
events that are happening down here in the South and
there's a lot of events that are going on as well.
MPI is running events over the next couple of days.
A lot of community and wealthier hubs are up and
running likes about closer through South and West Otago for example,
why Kaka it's all there. There's plenty of information. If
you're able to go there and look at the Facebook
(02:53):
pages or social media the way you can find out
there's information, or if you aren't able to, if you
know of somebody that has X, go and listen out
for that. Otherwise, stay tuned to HAK and the music stops,
so we better start the UR now with Joseph Mooney.
(03:17):
Joseph Mooney is MP for Southland and starts off the
must of this afternoon, Joseph, Good afternoon. It looks as
though you've had a pretty busy few days just getting
around the electroate and we just got to remember the
sheer size of what the Southland region entails.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeah, good afternoon.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Yeah, No, simply has been a busy few days for
everyone actually since the storm hitting. Yeah, and I think
the first one of us nature really in New Zealand
where we've had so much of our electricity network knocked out,
which has then had flow on effects for our communications systems,
for our water infrastructure, and you can say food as
(03:54):
well on the back of that because of the of
the way that you know, our refrigeration so was work
and then they're flow and affixed everyone else with milking operations,
et cetera, et cetera. So there's been a big week
for everyone.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
What's the ladiest you've heard on the ground down here
in the south anyway, we're slowly but surely powering it.
They're doing a grand job. They're getting the power reinstalled,
but there's still people without power.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Yeah, the power that boys and girls has been doing
an amazing job. And I've seen it, seen them everywhere,
and I've been over a pretty pretty slipant chunk of
the south of the Otago region in the last well
since since Friday. But you I've seen them just working
their tails off, cutting the trees away and reinstalling power
poles and they need and stringing up the lines again.
(04:40):
And there's reconnected a lot of people who work just
keeping but there are I think the latest figures when
they locked off last night, we're three nine hundred still
without power and south and seventeen hundred still without power
and the targo, so there's still quite a bit of
work to go. And yeah, just just traveling around yes
afternoon talking to folks who are still just keeps them
(05:02):
coming and getting fuel for their generators, so keeping that running. Look,
I think everyone's everyone's a bit tired, but in good
spirits that you know, areware that everyone's working as hard
as they can to do what they can and I
think our region's pulled really well together. So I think
everyone diseives a lot of credit for the way they
responded to this.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Mark Mitchell, Minister for Emergency Management and Recovery, he's been
in the south. Are you keeping in close comms?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Yeah, he spent two days down here and I've stayed
in close contact with him from the very outset. Uh
and and Paul Goldsmith actually the Communications Minister, and in
contact with him. There's obviously the comstowners are quite a
big one, particularly at the outset when we had no
communications for a lot of people, which made it challenging
(05:50):
just to figure out what was going on. You know,
just by way of example, when I went showing on Friday,
he was still going and dropping seeing different people. And
you know, there's the people who had no idea of
state of emergency had been clear because they had no
way of getting communications. But look, yeah, it was awesome
to have Mark mochell support. They just said, you know,
(06:13):
get you whatever you need. And so he helped you
get more generators down here. They've got the C one
thirty down here, bring more supplies down and he came
down and spent a day in South and then another
day in the cloth O target region.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Can there's be the catalyst for change regarding communication for
rural New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Yeah, we'll look at I think we're gonna have a
lot of lessons coming out of this for a whole
raft different things actually, and just you know, there's a
I guess a identifies how important our electricity systems are
in the communication systems and how everything else flows off
the back of that. But we're gonna have, yeah, have
doing a real deep think about how how things can
(06:55):
going forwards and if they're you know, the way to
be another incident like this or or more more significant,
even how we respond to it.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
But talking to the guy.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Who's overseas the telecommunication there with the whole country, I
think this time next year we're probably going to see
a lot more satellite based systems, But obviously you need
power to make those work as well. Don't have to
be thinking about that. Well, look, I'll tell you one
interesting little little thing. I went to one of the
most remote communities down a Papatoay in the Catlands on Saturday.
(07:29):
And the guy there with the gypsy caravan, he's got
solar panels on his roof and he's got some batteries,
and even though they don't see the sun from decent
chunks of time, he was able to have enough electricity
to be able to have a local place where the
community come and plugging their phones, connect to the intent
(07:50):
finances going on in the world and so these little
things on that I think given indication of might be
fresh phrase of thinking about how we ensure cottonuity if
there were to be a destruction of this in the future.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, I find a concerning you talked before about people
being unaware of it, a state of emergency being declared,
and like I was up in the basin over the
weekend and all your head was the radio churned into
Hawkinu to see what was going on, because there's no
other way. So just a great reminder as well about
having something in place if an emergency does come about.
I suppose yeah, y one.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Hundred percent, and you know, you know, sort of talking
to people around the region and what would happen. So
the a f E, which when people been talking about
for years and least hope it doesn't happen, but you
need to need to think about hair respond. And this
was something that we even't had quite like this an
easy land before this was you know, so many trees
coming down and knocking out so much of the power
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infrastructure or the transmission infrastructure.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
So yeah, it was, it was.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
It was really interesting. Like I shout out to you
guys ed Hockinui. So I think It's been a really
important communication mechanism for a lot of people who didn't
have any other way to connect to the outside. Well
for a while, and you're talking to the folks and
they they united dropped us of folks who had the radio,
(09:09):
they'd hold out a storage on their kitchen table. So
so you guys have played a really important role. But
the other side of that, tho, was that talking of
other folks they hadn't you know, they didn't have a
trains of the radio, they didn't have a bettery power radio.
They didn't have a radio because it's sort of old
school technology. And and even getting in the car was
(09:30):
an ideal because people wanted to conserve guests and the
guest guest stations weren't able to operate either, so they
didn't want to waste their guests run in the car
to listen to the radio. So there's yeah, quite a
few things we'll need to think about. And you know,
everyone need to make their own choices to some degree.
But I think something with taking taking or keeping in
(09:54):
mind what would happen if the power system mean, until
a communication system goes down the future.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Joseph Mooney MP for South and appreciated your time on
the muster of this afternoon. We know you're doing a
lot of cay's at the moment, so we always appreciate
your time.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Any appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (10:09):
Be now Culture.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Joseph Mooney, MP for South and this is the muster
up next. Jared Stockman from diaryan Za. Welcome back to
the muster. Jared Stockman of diaryan Z joins us to
(10:34):
give us an update on the situation from a dearying perspective. Jared, Good,
afternoon once again. Okay, so a later st update you've
had there regarding the situation down here in the South.
From a diaryan Z perspective, what are we saying?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Look, and he's still kind of four and a half
thousand power connections that are out. That probably equates around
one hundred and eighty deary sheds. That was kind of
as of last night. It's probably a few more gone
on today. Wide scale tree damage, infrastructure damage, fences and
(11:13):
buts and pieces. A number of people haven't been able
to milk cows, particularly in at first forty eight seventy
two hours, and so obviously we're getting the usual animal
health issues that come out of that high semitic cell count,
smestitis down cows and stuff. So yeah, still pretty grim
(11:37):
down here, I've got to say, but slowly making progress.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
As far as milkings. Farmers have managed to get ahold
of enough generators to make that work sharing them and
the likes.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Look, I think we're in a reasonable position there. We
probably a flow off the mark to be fair, and
people had heads and miss milkings. But you know, sharing
generators and stuff is not ideal because you've got you know,
people cares milking it, you know, all sorts of ours.
(12:12):
So not great for people, not great for animals. Yeah,
bit of a bit of you know, something to think
about moving forward to building some risk management into into
your farming business.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
It took it touched on Animal Wealthfare just before Jared.
What's the biggest concern around that? Obviously not getting the
milk out of the animals.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, just obviously we've got you know, emerging issues with
semitic cell counts, a mess like this, you know, down
cares because with no pair a lot of these sheds,
the dose tron doesn't work. So there's you know, animal
health minerals not getting through the troughs. So yeah, just
(12:55):
a combination of stuff. But look, once you're milking them
and stuff, generally, you know, two to four days you
can get these semitic cell counts down. But then you've
you know, again, you need power to till your milk
and make sure it's the right, you know, the right
temperature for pickup. Because we've got to remember that milk
is a it's a it's a food product, and so
(13:18):
we've got to have certain you know, health enders around it.
So yeah, just yeah, just a few things to think about.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Farmer fatigue comes into the equation as well, and this
is something we need to be really aware of.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
Yeah, look.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
That's the thing that probably concerns me most at the moment.
Farmers of finished mating sorry, finished finished calving. You've had
this big event mating starting. They've got you know, there's
there's hundreds and thousands of trees down throughout Southland. People
are pretty stress at the moment. And then throw throwing
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the fact that we've still got a large number of
of of our farmers without power. Yeah, I'm really worried,
and I guess you know, that's that's quite a good thing.
Real Support Trust have organized some awesome community barbecues that
are happening in the evenings and what we really want
to encourage people to get along to those events, So
(14:19):
check out the Real Support Trust page. Simon hot Croft
has just done an amazing job over the last you know,
five days in terms of standing up events and providing
support and getting things moving. You know, I don't know
how he does it with us. He's got his own
three farms, but yeah, he's been a man. He's been
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tagged in all directions. So health and safety really important.
You know, if you're tired and stuff, it's just you've
got to think about what sort of decision you're making.
And the last thing, you know, we've come through this
event with no fatalities or you know, serious injuries or
anything like that. And I'm both concerned is in the
coming weeks and months when people started taking down trees
(15:03):
with chainsaws. That's where you know, that's where our next
biggest risk is coming from.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
And that's where we need to have some clear messaging
as well. Jared fatigue is and good around a chainsaw.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
No, yeah, yeah, like one hundred percent, And we just
kind of need everyone to you know, take take a
bit of a breath, get themselves right on the head,
help themselves, help their staff, make sure everyone's coping okay,
when they're in the best frame of mind. You know,
the trees are not going to go anywhere, but just
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make the right decisions.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
It will.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Look, we know how practical farmers are and they just
want to get stuff done. I think everyone gets that.
But yeah, message from us is just put people first,
and put yourself first at the stage, and just make
sure you know you're right, you're clear in your mind
about the decisions that you're making, and just do risk assessments.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Have you had many farmers getting in touch so far,
Jared regarding this situation, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
We have.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
We look that the challenge has been communication, right. So
with you know, the bulk of the cell towers down
throughout South and very early you know, post the post
the kind of the guts of the storm, we just
couldn't communicate with people, and so we we we've been
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dropping out Texas on a regular basis to try and
understand who's got power, who hasn't, what supports needed, and
then try and getting them to connect with the right
people to get to get things moving. We continue to
do that on a regular basis. Ina multiple I've lost
count on how many times I've had to charge my
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phone over the last four or five days just with
phone calls. And look, our teams, yeah, you know have
worked through the weekend as you'd expect us to do,
ken to support dairy farmers and yeah, just hundreds of
course have been made and received and returned and you know,
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messages passed on. So it's been not just us something
you know, the Fonterra team have been based in the
power net helping helping power neet prioritize dairy farms to
get Maine's power on. There's just been so many organizations
that have just stepped up and then you know, just
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their rural communities. I think resilience is an over used word,
but I don't even know how to describe it. I
mean they're just just so good in terms of rolling
around and getting stuff done. So yeah, it's been a
full court press, so I think from all parties.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So you okay, messaging more or less today. Jared As
for farmers to check in with their neighbors and their mates.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Look, I don't think, to be fair, I don't think
they've got time to check in with their neighbors if
I'm being honest, because they flat out we're about to
you know, there's some farmers who are still dealing with
loss of pair on it. I think when the time comes,
you know, that'll that will happen naturally. But I think
look after yourselves, look after your staff. If you need help,
(18:13):
reach out. You know, all of our area managers on
are on der Insed website available to have a discussion
with dairy farmers, particularly if there's anything technical, but myself included,
so all of our numbers are on the website. If
anyone's got any consumes about anyone's kind of fatigue and
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thinks they're don't too much and not in a good headspace,
We've got real support and just keep yourself safe and yeah,
when the time's right, you know, checking with your neighbors.
But hey, there's some good community barbecues happening every evening.
I think tonight Woodland's Rugby Club for that that area
(18:55):
five thirty eight o'clock and Robson Rugby Club for kind
of the peace out Western Southland five eight to get along,
we'll have people there. I'll be at the rut in
one tonight and happy to have a chat and if
we can do anything to help, just let us know.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Jared Stockman of Darry and ZED, thanks for your time
on the muster once again.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Cheers, Andy, appreciate it man, you.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Can Jared Stockman of Darry and ZED with some really
relevant messaging as well. This is the muster up. Next
we go to James Egger at Moa Flat. No, not
only has the trees been in this shirt, sounds like
snow's part of the equation as well.
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Speaker 1 (19:47):
Pretty much. Stephen Fleming at Second Slip, That is Cold
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We're away to Moa Flat next, catching up with James Egger,
Sheep Beef and Venison Farmer up that way. Jane's good afternoon.
How soon's looking over your way?
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Well, we've got blue sky yet today, Andy, and the
sun's out what I wouldn't call it is warm, But anyway,
I suppose that's the start because we and I've got
pair on so so things are looking up slowly.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I guess how long did you lose power for?
Speaker 4 (20:21):
We only got al one last night later on last night,
so I guess probably On a side note, actually, I
see they got one hundred thousand for the mere relief funds.
And without advocating too much, but I'd like to see
when the last of the pair goes on, maybe some
pizza and beers shouted for those linemen, because I bet
they've had a bit of chaos on And yeah, I
(20:41):
don't think I mind my taxpayers money shouting a few
few pizzas and a bit of beer for the linesman
after they finished their hard work. Well, I know, specially
when we live here, like it's quite isolating when we
lose pair. And yeah, she's sort of getting your own
we bubble and worry about your own set of circumstances
and worrying about your own stock and raisers and velvet
and you know, well we're chasing around trying to fix
(21:05):
all the pair up today. But yeah, we had power
lines sliding in the middle of the road for probably
five days. And yeah, it was at least four or
five down round the round the district. So no, I know,
those guys have been been working hard and I see this, Well,
I've got the pair on now, but we have a
(21:25):
couple of pair poles have got quite big leans from
where the power lines have obviously pulled them halfway over.
So I'm guessing that we've got pair now. But the
last of the fixing isn't isn't done yet, like there's
going to be a secondary repair job, you know, tidying
it up afterwards. But anyway, shout out to the linesman. Yeah,
I appreciate the work and everyone that's been involved in
(21:46):
the emergency response. We had Joseph Murney called in, so
I was impressed with that was actually the end of
a long day cutting branches off off fences and you know,
it was a bit puffed actually, but yeah, I was good.
Good to see Joseph, And yeah, like those guys have
done a lot of keys and probably kept the communication up.
So yeah, no, thanks to everyone's hard work.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
But you have had snow to contend with as well.
We had those snow flurries falling Gore on Monday night.
But you guys got a proper dump, didn't you.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Yeah, we got proper snow. We had about two inches
probably the place here and up the top farm. We
must have probably had six. Yeah. The great irony of
the thing was about the only time the last two
months we haven't had the wind, because the snow comes
straight down in big flakes, sort of like the winter,
and no wind at all, and it was almost nice,
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not even contained with wind. Yeah, no, it's just been
a bit of a battle the spring. It's now definitely
worse than last year for us personally. The pasture covers. Yeah, please,
we panicked earlier, I guess, and we were front filling it.
But yeah, we now we're starting to yes, going to
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take some real farming to try and keep everything going.
I guess you've always said that anyone can farm in
a good year, but you certainly find out your top
blokes in the in a bad year. And yeah, she's
becoming fairly testing.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I guess they have a mother nature. She's a great
leveler all round, no matter what your farming ability is.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Though, Oh absolutely, yep, yeah, yeah, we're just well, just
with the grass growth now is actually probably the main problem. Though. Well,
you know, we've got a pair on now and the
season's going to sort of been what it's going to be.
Actually lemon doesn't look too bad. We've got feeling at
the stage. Not that we've got tailing yet up here,
but yes, certainly that grasscover when you're losing like that,
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you know, heading into November when we really should be
picking up your top growth rates the whole year, and
you know it's just hasn't happened yet. For a Tiger South, it's.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
A better balance as well as what you can get
done on the farm as well. James were planning out
the day just not getting a hitting, a hitting yourself
at the moment, I suppose.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Yeah, yeah, well not much changes for us even though,
so we're still next. Priority jobs are sort of well
tailing to be honest, because there's some big lambs round,
but we left the tails on some of our bigger
lambs down at Riverside, So anything that's really forward we'll
probably just leave the tails on, because yeah, it's easy enough.
I don't like cuting the tails off those really big lambs.
(24:17):
I think it affects them too much personally. And then
yeah there's lamb drenching and we've got one to be another.
I was actually just talking the wholly about that this morning.
At winder Crops. We usually spray out about the tenth
to fifteenth of November, but we're certainly considering the current situation.
We might pull them back to say the start of
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December before we spray them out, and just maybe put
them a wee bit more area, just because I don't
see the point in spraying out graft and then underfeeding sheep,
so then our lambs get smaller and then we'd get
behind in the season. So yeah, we're just starting now
to put in place and do some thinking around what
we're going to do with the lower covers and how
we're going to change things. I know Cole, it was
(25:00):
up the top farm. He used to plant turnips and
he was doing that at the start of January, and
this theory was there was no point spread out grass
if he didn't have enough affecting the sheep's milking and
everything else. So yeah, I mean it's certainly different tools.
We've got to change our outlook, I guess. So now
we're going to make sure we stay flexible. I was
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actually laughing in the middle of the pear cut too,
because yeah, things on farm don't change all that much
because we had to still velvet and the freeze velvet
down so yeah, he was sort of in the middle
of the long weekend and I was Johnny in charge,
and the jobs and the farm just carried on. So no,
it's yeah, it's just farming, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
That's one with the positors at the moment though, just
across the sectors, James, is the fact that the red
meat price, the price of dairy it is very secure
at the moment. I suppose, Yeah, it is.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
And you're still going to execute to get the kilos
out the gate. That's the important thing. So sometimes you
can be knocked around with the weather or doing different things,
but it's just to be yeah, keeping that in mind.
You know. I know some of the guys there they're
talking significantly wears lammings, and you know, sometimes if you
can try and get the same kilos out the gate
with leese lambs, you still end up at the same spot.
(26:13):
And that's what you got to think about once you
get into it. Is well, sort of like a bad
half a rugby, I guess, and need to use an analogy.
You sort of got to flush that one and get
rid of the half and change your mindset and then
look forward, I guess. And that's certainly what we're trying
to do now. I board through on the weekend and
we got most of the trees cut off, all the
fences because I just like, wow, when you first get
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there bit of adrenaline. I like to just get the
get the fences back up and running and just you know,
hock into it. And then we actually gave my sister
down an out drive there there. We gave her a
hand on Saturday, and you've got the trees off her
fences and it was nice, nice just to get into it.
And then now we're just yeah, trying to look forward
and work out how this event doesn't impact their business
(26:55):
too much.
Speaker 8 (26:55):
I guess, So.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
What do you do to mistigate that impact that you
have had over the last ten days?
Speaker 4 (27:04):
I guess we're around with shuffling stock round. I mean,
then they're going to sell some store stock. We will.
You can sell use and lambs all counted, and you'll
find even with low grass covers, if you can get
your stocking rate down low enough, your sheep will still
whichually be perfectly fine, and they will grow away. Sometimes
if you have done that year, I mean, you might
have to put in the weave of extra lamb crop
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or there's lots of different ways to skin the cat.
You know, we can be quite flexible in our farming systems.
Now we look forward to when the stags get their
velvet cut off, because from there we can sort of
lock them down into some paddocks with rougher grass and
then we can shuffle the sheep round and put them
into some of the valving paddocks. That's just early enough now,
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but that's certainly another ten days and we'll start freeing
up valving paddocks which have got good grass. So yeah,
we can shuffle the using lambs round into there to
eat that grass and they'll let their blocks come back
away again and then they'll probably go. So no, there's
always things you can do if you actively think about it.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
James Egga of mar Flat. Always good to check on
the muster. Thanks for your time once again.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Thanks thanks that dye, and yeah, I hope everyone he
really looks up and you've got to flush the dunny
from the last you know, well, what's happened so far
the spring and look forward, so good luck to everyone
out there.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
James Egga from mar Flat. You are listening to the
muster on hakan Nui before the end of the Yell
and Matt McCrae on behalf of Beef and Lad New Zealand.
But up next from Melt McClain plus more, Sam Running Claw,
(28:49):
Welcome back to the Muster on Hakaui. Sam Rudding Claw
of Melet McClain plus more based here and Good joins
us once again this afternoon. Sam Hell things, Yeah, good things, Sandy.
Speaker 8 (29:01):
Yeah, I'm sort of feeling reasonably lucky, even though I'm
sitting at home at the moment without power. But it's
pretty pales in comparison to some guys out there. You know,
I feel feel for a lot of the people in
the in the region from the weather events of last
week here.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
So at the moment, while people try and comprehend what's
needed on the farm, insurance and the likes, this is
when it comes to the fourth Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
I mean people have got to what I look after themselves,
I think in the first instance, and yeah, think about
think about themselves and their families and their communities and
just do what needs.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
To be done.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
But there's no rush either, and you know that certainly
comes to like some insurance claims and that sort of thing,
like there's been already from what we've heard a massive
number of lodge claims, and I'm sure there's heaps yet
to come, so claim processing and response times will lo
we'd be pretty extended. But you know, you've got time.
(30:03):
You don't have to you don't have to get in
and get a claim in now. And sometimes with you,
with the passage of time, you'll find other things that
that you can claim on or need repaired. So yeah,
maybe just taking a breather on some of that sort
of stuff.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
It's always good.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
So it's not a matter of having to rush your
claims in. Just be measured and calculated as to how
the situation's unfollowed first, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:29):
I think so, like, yeah, certainly the stuff there you'll
know straight away that you can get a claim in.
But I was like, I was talking to so, you
know this morning. He's a dairy farmer, and he was saying,
you know, he hasn't even really thought about an insurance
claim at this point of time. He's just trying to
get his head around what the actual impact is. From
a milk perspective. You can see that immediate loss of
(30:51):
milk and come there, but yeah, what's ongoing impact of that?
And getting around the farm and checking everything out, and
you take some time. But I think right at the
very moment, probably the most important things to be doing
is just gathering that information for a claim. You know,
make sure you're taking plenty of photos of damage to
support your claim, before and after type stuff. And also
(31:14):
as invoices come in for cost relating to a claim,
make surely you've got them really available so you can
help speed up that process.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Another thing that comes into the equation SAM is business
continuity or cash flow planning. It's kind of in limbo
for sheep farmers at the moment. You may have had
a few drives gone to the yards, you might have
a bit of hog it wall lying around, but apart
from that there isn't too much there. But on the
dairying perspective as well, you're flat out milking the cows.
You're just trying to plan for the next three or
four weeks as to what's going to happen with cash flow.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (31:44):
So I mean for a lot of people, or most people, unfortunately,
cost of refencing, tree clearing and that sort of thing
is unlucky to recover by insurance. And we've heard stories
of that running into hundreds of thousands of dollars some people.
So they're just in the short terms of cash kefel
cash flow planning will be needed and banking support maybe
(32:09):
to extend overdrafts if they're in that sort of position. Yeah,
so we're here to help were here account it will
be here to help help with that. Thankfully, Commodity prices
are strong, which is a small sort of lining in this,
but I'm sure people weren't really planning on spending that
strong return on repeasent maintenance and clearing trees and that
(32:31):
sort of thing. So yeah, just I guess making sure
that you that you're just talking to your bank particularly,
and yeah, where we can help, we'll help out there
where we can.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
And the big thing is, don't feel precious of doing
everything today. These are ways tomorrow, right.
Speaker 8 (32:48):
One hundred percent, I think. Yeah, So I said near
the start, you know, people lily need to take care
of themselves in the first instance. You know, it's a
pretty tough time out there and really hardacking to see.
And I drove down to mccago on Friday, had meetings
down there, and man, there's some yeah, there's certainly some
widespread destruction and it's going to take a long time
to fix up. So yeah, I don't think that you
(33:11):
need to do it all this week. There's plenty of time.
But however, I guess there is some time pressure there.
From a tax perspective, if we can get if we
can get some of that repairs and maintenance into this
income year before balance dat, then you know there could
be some good tax benefits of doing that.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Now the investment boost scheme can work in your favor
as well.
Speaker 8 (33:35):
Yeah, one hundred percent. So right at the moment, people
will be probably thinking about purchasing a generator or looking
at things such as solar panels and battery backup solutions
and that.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Sort of stuff.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
You know, it's always in the case or after a
disaster like this, that you realize that maybe some of
those things that required and you just remember that immediate
write down from an investment brist perspective available but only
for new assets. So if you're going to purchase a
secondhand generator or something like that, you're not going to
(34:10):
get it for that, but anything.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
New you will see. What's the man revenues take on
the situation at the moment. What do people need to
remember here.
Speaker 8 (34:18):
So they come out on Friday and said there's no
need to get in touch with them straight away. Focus
on right now on recovery and looking after yourself, your
family and your community, and they'll provide support when you're
ready to get in touch. But I guess the main
thing is there was GST and personal text due yesterday
(34:39):
for what provisional tax was for Maybellance States. So I
mean if you haven't or if you've overlooked those, which
is understandable at the moment, just to maybe just either
get in touch with your accountant and they can talk
to the ID or talk to the ID direct and
to say, look, you know, things of things of pretty
(35:01):
pretty tough at the moment, so yeah, and they want
to support that. So yeah, just get in touch with them,
really is the main thing.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
So the big thing to remember is they are understanding
of a situation regarding leeway, Yeah one hundred percent.
Speaker 8 (35:14):
Yeah, but I think that they are understanding of it.
But if you haven't paid text yesterday and you and
you get in touch with them in February March and
say I didn't pay text back then, then they may
take a different.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
View on that.
Speaker 8 (35:25):
But you know, if you're as a geniorine thing you
didn't have internet or didn't have power or both of
those things, then yeah, get in touch with when you.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Can say in the team at malot mclaim plus more.
How do people get in touch?
Speaker 8 (35:40):
So yeah, you can either ring us in the cargo
which was O three two one four four one sixty
six gore is three to eight five oh seven seven
or hello at m MCA dot co dot MZ.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Can only say I'm always appreciate your time. All the
best right slip Sam running claw from well mcclaim plus more.
This is the Muster before we wrap up, Matt mccrane.
Speaker 9 (36:11):
The Muster Events Diary brought to you by Beef and
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Speaker 1 (36:23):
Matt McCrae joins us this afternoon. He is the chair
of the Beef and Lamb's Southern Farmer Council. Matt, Good, afternoon,
House things.
Speaker 7 (36:32):
Afternoon, Endy, you had another BOONI down macarator can't campaign.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Today to find bami Ah.
Speaker 7 (36:39):
It hasn't stopped raining for a while yet, but I've
got a rope over my head at the moment, so
I can hear you on the phone. Getting a bit
loud outside. I'm sending in the sheet a minute ago.
So yeah, hopefully one day closer to some sunshine, jeep as.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
We don't want their concrete to get dry, do we.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
Yeah, yeah, it would be amazing what we'll get done
when it does. Fine, happened, but yeah, it's been good.
We've had it way bit of round and been your
mud about. Now it's is probably limiting progress away.
Speaker 9 (37:07):
Bit.
Speaker 7 (37:08):
It's nice to see some pair of trucks going up
the road this morning.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yeah, what's the situation of Marcerda power wise for.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
Probably half all stages. It's going to come up to the
billions stages over the weekend. And we've got a few
trees over at Boundary and neighboring Gary Farms.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
It's sort of have pair on you.
Speaker 7 (37:25):
So yeah, I really appreciate the pair and it goes
working hard to get every one pair, and yeah, thinking
of all the all the others throughout the region and
that don't have pair or excess as well. So the
kids thought it was a novelty for the first couple
of days, but I think it's even wearing thin with
them at the moment.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah, A massive shout out to power, and that we
cannot underestimate the job that the teams are doing around
here in the south. The's hundreds of them on the
ground and it's it's a job that's just ongoing. But
as far as rainfall down there at marcaredas though you're
not immune to the odd drop. So but where are
you inside this time last year? What's the comparison, Matte.
Speaker 7 (38:05):
I haven't actually been a bit scared to work it out.
In comparison to last year, I'd say we're pretty similar
to be fair, I think we've had to over a
tw hundred mills around for this month and a bit
over two hundred for the month before and one hundred
at the end of August. Getting well up there for
us even by extend. It's but like there's been parts
(38:25):
of the region that I've had much more than us toes.
It's possibly the lack of drawing that's effecting us at
the moment. But yeah, we don't know.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
If we your whole.
Speaker 7 (38:35):
Time, mate, for conditions to come right based off last year,
everything will get done. So it's just yah taking a
breath and getting some sitting down and doing some planning.
So when that sun shun comes out. You can get
through what you need to do, but probably not rushing
things like tailing or cleaning up if it risks safe
(38:56):
to your long term implications around animal health and things
like that. Yeah, one lesson we learned from last year
is it's amazing what you can get a toe when
the sun comes out.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
I think the irony being this time last year I
said to you, when it comes to the rain gauge,
just go and drill a hole lot of the ten mills,
and you sorted right, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (39:15):
No, I did joke about that. I think I'll warm
my last one out, so actually putting new rain gage
up yesterday.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
And oh really, oh well, disregard and.
Speaker 7 (39:24):
Put a whole about five meals up in my old one. Yeah,
you know it's bad when you wear out of rain gauge.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
But what's the messaging from Beef and Lamb at the
moment regarding welfare. I mean, we talk about the situation
Lambing's well through for a lot of people, hogot, Lambing
coming to its conclusion, a lot of people behind on tailing,
and the likes arguably drenching of Lambs comes into the
equation sooner than later. But what's what's the messaging you
think people need to remember, Matt.
Speaker 7 (39:50):
Yeah, key things, I guess look after yourselves, your family
and your farm team and neighbors first, and then yeah
it certainly there's stop that stock welfare around water and tailing.
Obviously there is still a bit of lemming happening. And
but yeah, just if you're worried, talk to your vets.
There's a lot of vaccines been sitting in fridges that
(40:12):
possibly needs throwing out. There's swat insurance as forth. Yeah,
talk talk to your vets.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
Don't risk it.
Speaker 7 (40:21):
I'll see they'll put up a post on Facebook. The'll
be from the Facebook page today with northern South and
vets around some of the risks around tailing in the
in the rain. So the good thing is the forecast
is looking better next week, so a few days in
the big scheme of things isn't going to hurt. But
the main thing, look after yourself and your stock and
(40:42):
in your community.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Suppose it's it done if you do darned if you
don't situation with tailing, if the contractors are working the
time frames there and what I know, what do you
do there? Just a matter of having dialogue seeing if
you can swap days perhaps.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
Yeah, I guess it's fairly widespread and everyone's in up together.
But things things will happen. There's there will there will
be periods where the sun comes out and we can
get a lot of tubes. Yeah, just think about the
or my messages thing about the long term imtifications of it,
if you are pushing the boundaries, and how that might
slow things down. I realize feeds tight and underground conditions
(41:20):
are wet, but yeah, just make sure you those those
decisions are well thought through when you pull the trigger
on them, and yeah, and the other things around that.
The clearing or clean up has started pretty quickly in
a lot of cases. The big one is safety first,
(41:41):
particularly with the trees, and yeah, a lot of them
can be very dangerous. And I know a lot of
big thumbers in the region work alone. So make sure
you're communicating and working with neighbors and go and help
each other out would be the thing, because we don't
want anyone undred doing things that they shouldn't be doing.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
That's a major one there, especially regarding fatigue and chainsaws.
We can't reiterate that enough. Now, as far as events
that are happening South, little support trusts. They're on the
ground up and running and as well a lot of
areas just having community events over the next week or so.
By the looks of it, it's.
Speaker 7 (42:17):
Good to see a few of them popping up. Haven't
been online a lot with communication issues, but they it's
good to see row Support have got a lot bee
from them. I've got a couple of events up in
Roxburgh and at Nasdale later in the week and then yeah,
I've seen a few. We're having one after ram opened
here on Friday, barbecue a few beers too, so it's
(42:40):
just a good chance to look up those events. Get
off farm and no doubt that be something happening close
to you. So problem sheds, problem halved and people we
have some pretty good innovative ways of dealing with some
issues that we've got at the moment, so you get
off and re evaluate. We were at well Tefla. When
(43:01):
the sun comes out.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Great messaging is always Matt McCrae. Always appreciate your time.
Hopefully that power comes on sooner than later. At mocker reader, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (43:10):
Cheers any.
Speaker 6 (43:14):
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(43:44):
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Speaker 5 (44:00):
Just
Good afternoon, and welcome to the muster on hock and EWI.
My name is Andy Mueller. Here until two o'clock, of course,
thanks to Peterson LX. Welcome along to hump Day. We'll
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That's at the five you Ram Open Day. We'll crank
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You've got nothing to want, just a steady set of
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Speaker 1 (01:07):
We need a steady set of hands at the moment.
This afternoon showers of breezy westerlies and twelve. Thursday afternoon
showers of breezy west west northwesterlies five and fourteen. Friday
morning showers of breezy west sow Westley's one and eleven.
Saturday sunny with breezy westerlyes five and fifteen, and Sundays
change it up with it sanny with breezy nor westerlyes
(01:28):
seven and nineteen. So temperatures to hand northern South and
nine point one Riveton eleven, Tiana nine point five went
in eight point six at Woodlands as well eight point
six South and the MP Joseph Mooney catch us off
to start the hour. Looking at the situation. Jared Stockram
from dairy en Z was some reminders, I suppose for
(01:50):
the dairying sector, considering the situation we're facing, how people
are coping from his perspective, and our people actually putting
their hands on saying I need a hand at the moment.
James egga farm's a maa flat. Not only has it
been windy, but has been snowy as well. So James
tell tells us all about the trials and tribulation of
the last week of October Sam running Claw from Moult
(02:13):
McLain plus more talks about implications of this weather around
what you have on the farm there regarding thing comeing
the likes, how do you negate the situation insurance claims.
Sam touches on that. Have we wrap up the yewls.
Matt McCrae of course familiar voice, but today talking on
behalf of the Beef and Land Southern Farmer Council about
(02:33):
events that are happening down here in the South and
there's a lot of events that are going on as well.
MPI is running events over the next couple of days.
A lot of community and wealthier hubs are up and
running likes about closer through South and West Otago for example,
why Kaka it's all there. There's plenty of information. If
you're able to go there and look at the Facebook
(02:53):
pages or social media the way you can find out
there's information, or if you aren't able to, if you
know of somebody that has X, go and listen out
for that. Otherwise, stay tuned to HAK and the music stops,
so we better start the UR now with Joseph Mooney.
(03:17):
Joseph Mooney is MP for Southland and starts off the
must of this afternoon, Joseph, Good afternoon. It looks as
though you've had a pretty busy few days just getting
around the electroate and we just got to remember the
sheer size of what the Southland region entails.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeah, good afternoon.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Yeah, No, simply has been a busy few days for
everyone actually since the storm hitting. Yeah, and I think
the first one of us nature really in New Zealand
where we've had so much of our electricity network knocked out,
which has then had flow on effects for our communications systems,
for our water infrastructure, and you can say food as
(03:54):
well on the back of that because of the of
the way that you know, our refrigeration so was work
and then they're flow and affixed everyone else with milking operations,
et cetera, et cetera. So there's been a big week
for everyone.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
What's the ladiest you've heard on the ground down here
in the south anyway, we're slowly but surely powering it.
They're doing a grand job. They're getting the power reinstalled,
but there's still people without power.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Yeah, the power that boys and girls has been doing
an amazing job. And I've seen it, seen them everywhere,
and I've been over a pretty pretty slipant chunk of
the south of the Otago region in the last well
since since Friday. But you I've seen them just working
their tails off, cutting the trees away and reinstalling power
poles and they need and stringing up the lines again.
(04:40):
And there's reconnected a lot of people who work just
keeping but there are I think the latest figures when
they locked off last night, we're three nine hundred still
without power and south and seventeen hundred still without power
and the targo, so there's still quite a bit of
work to go. And yeah, just just traveling around yes
afternoon talking to folks who are still just keeps them
(05:02):
coming and getting fuel for their generators, so keeping that running. Look,
I think everyone's everyone's a bit tired, but in good
spirits that you know, areware that everyone's working as hard
as they can to do what they can and I
think our region's pulled really well together. So I think
everyone diseives a lot of credit for the way they
responded to this.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Mark Mitchell, Minister for Emergency Management and Recovery, he's been
in the south. Are you keeping in close comms?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Yeah, he spent two days down here and I've stayed
in close contact with him from the very outset. Uh
and and Paul Goldsmith actually the Communications Minister, and in
contact with him. There's obviously the comstowners are quite a
big one, particularly at the outset when we had no
communications for a lot of people, which made it challenging
(05:50):
just to figure out what was going on. You know,
just by way of example, when I went showing on Friday,
he was still going and dropping seeing different people. And
you know, there's the people who had no idea of
state of emergency had been clear because they had no
way of getting communications. But look, yeah, it was awesome
to have Mark mochell support. They just said, you know,
(06:13):
get you whatever you need. And so he helped you
get more generators down here. They've got the C one
thirty down here, bring more supplies down and he came
down and spent a day in South and then another
day in the cloth O target region.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Can there's be the catalyst for change regarding communication for
rural New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Yeah, we'll look at I think we're gonna have a
lot of lessons coming out of this for a whole
raft different things actually, and just you know, there's a
I guess a identifies how important our electricity systems are
in the communication systems and how everything else flows off
the back of that. But we're gonna have, yeah, have
doing a real deep think about how how things can
(06:55):
going forwards and if they're you know, the way to
be another incident like this or or more more significant,
even how we respond to it.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
But talking to the guy.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Who's overseas the telecommunication there with the whole country, I
think this time next year we're probably going to see
a lot more satellite based systems, But obviously you need
power to make those work as well. Don't have to
be thinking about that. Well, look, I'll tell you one
interesting little little thing. I went to one of the
most remote communities down a Papatoay in the Catlands on Saturday.
(07:29):
And the guy there with the gypsy caravan, he's got
solar panels on his roof and he's got some batteries,
and even though they don't see the sun from decent
chunks of time, he was able to have enough electricity
to be able to have a local place where the
community come and plugging their phones, connect to the intent
(07:50):
finances going on in the world and so these little
things on that I think given indication of might be
fresh phrase of thinking about how we ensure cottonuity if
there were to be a destruction of this in the future.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, I find a concerning you talked before about people
being unaware of it, a state of emergency being declared,
and like I was up in the basin over the
weekend and all your head was the radio churned into
Hawkinu to see what was going on, because there's no
other way. So just a great reminder as well about
having something in place if an emergency does come about.
I suppose yeah, y one.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Hundred percent, and you know, you know, sort of talking
to people around the region and what would happen. So
the a f E, which when people been talking about
for years and least hope it doesn't happen, but you
need to need to think about hair respond. And this
was something that we even't had quite like this an
easy land before this was you know, so many trees
coming down and knocking out so much of the power
(08:43):
infrastructure or the transmission infrastructure.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
So yeah, it was, it was.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
It was really interesting. Like I shout out to you
guys ed Hockinui. So I think It's been a really
important communication mechanism for a lot of people who didn't
have any other way to connect to the outside. Well
for a while, and you're talking to the folks and
they they united dropped us of folks who had the radio,
(09:09):
they'd hold out a storage on their kitchen table. So
so you guys have played a really important role. But
the other side of that, tho, was that talking of
other folks they hadn't you know, they didn't have a
trains of the radio, they didn't have a bettery power radio.
They didn't have a radio because it's sort of old
school technology. And and even getting in the car was
(09:30):
an ideal because people wanted to conserve guests and the
guest guest stations weren't able to operate either, so they
didn't want to waste their guests run in the car
to listen to the radio. So there's yeah, quite a
few things we'll need to think about. And you know,
everyone need to make their own choices to some degree.
But I think something with taking taking or keeping in
(09:54):
mind what would happen if the power system mean, until
a communication system goes down the future.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Joseph Mooney MP for South and appreciated your time on
the muster of this afternoon. We know you're doing a
lot of cay's at the moment, so we always appreciate
your time.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Any appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (10:09):
Be now Culture.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Joseph Mooney, MP for South and this is the muster
up next. Jared Stockman from diaryan Za. Welcome back to
the muster. Jared Stockman of diaryan Z joins us to
(10:34):
give us an update on the situation from a dearying perspective. Jared, Good,
afternoon once again. Okay, so a later st update you've
had there regarding the situation down here in the South.
From a diaryan Z perspective, what are we saying?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Look, and he's still kind of four and a half
thousand power connections that are out. That probably equates around
one hundred and eighty deary sheds. That was kind of
as of last night. It's probably a few more gone
on today. Wide scale tree damage, infrastructure damage, fences and
(11:13):
buts and pieces. A number of people haven't been able
to milk cows, particularly in at first forty eight seventy
two hours, and so obviously we're getting the usual animal
health issues that come out of that high semitic cell count,
smestitis down cows and stuff. So yeah, still pretty grim
(11:37):
down here, I've got to say, but slowly making progress.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
As far as milkings. Farmers have managed to get ahold
of enough generators to make that work sharing them and
the likes.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Look, I think we're in a reasonable position there. We
probably a flow off the mark to be fair, and
people had heads and miss milkings. But you know, sharing
generators and stuff is not ideal because you've got you know,
people cares milking it, you know, all sorts of ours.
(12:12):
So not great for people, not great for animals. Yeah,
bit of a bit of you know, something to think
about moving forward to building some risk management into into
your farming business.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
It took it touched on Animal Wealthfare just before Jared.
What's the biggest concern around that? Obviously not getting the
milk out of the animals.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, just obviously we've got you know, emerging issues with
semitic cell counts, a mess like this, you know, down
cares because with no pair a lot of these sheds,
the dose tron doesn't work. So there's you know, animal
health minerals not getting through the troughs. So yeah, just
(12:55):
a combination of stuff. But look, once you're milking them
and stuff, generally, you know, two to four days you
can get these semitic cell counts down. But then you've
you know, again, you need power to till your milk
and make sure it's the right, you know, the right
temperature for pickup. Because we've got to remember that milk
is a it's a it's a food product, and so
(13:18):
we've got to have certain you know, health enders around it.
So yeah, just yeah, just a few things to think about.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Farmer fatigue comes into the equation as well, and this
is something we need to be really aware of.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
Yeah, look.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
That's the thing that probably concerns me most at the moment.
Farmers of finished mating sorry, finished finished calving. You've had
this big event mating starting. They've got you know, there's
there's hundreds and thousands of trees down throughout Southland. People
are pretty stress at the moment. And then throw throwing
(13:56):
the fact that we've still got a large number of
of of our farmers without power. Yeah, I'm really worried,
and I guess you know, that's that's quite a good thing.
Real Support Trust have organized some awesome community barbecues that
are happening in the evenings and what we really want
to encourage people to get along to those events, So
(14:19):
check out the Real Support Trust page. Simon hot Croft
has just done an amazing job over the last you know,
five days in terms of standing up events and providing
support and getting things moving. You know, I don't know
how he does it with us. He's got his own
three farms, but yeah, he's been a man. He's been
(14:40):
tagged in all directions. So health and safety really important.
You know, if you're tired and stuff, it's just you've
got to think about what sort of decision you're making.
And the last thing, you know, we've come through this
event with no fatalities or you know, serious injuries or
anything like that. And I'm both concerned is in the
coming weeks and months when people started taking down trees
(15:03):
with chainsaws. That's where you know, that's where our next
biggest risk is coming from.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
And that's where we need to have some clear messaging
as well. Jared fatigue is and good around a chainsaw.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
No, yeah, yeah, like one hundred percent, And we just
kind of need everyone to you know, take take a
bit of a breath, get themselves right on the head,
help themselves, help their staff, make sure everyone's coping okay,
when they're in the best frame of mind. You know,
the trees are not going to go anywhere, but just
(15:35):
make the right decisions.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
It will.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Look, we know how practical farmers are and they just
want to get stuff done. I think everyone gets that.
But yeah, message from us is just put people first,
and put yourself first at the stage, and just make
sure you know you're right, you're clear in your mind
about the decisions that you're making, and just do risk assessments.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Have you had many farmers getting in touch so far,
Jared regarding this situation, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
We have.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
We look that the challenge has been communication, right. So
with you know, the bulk of the cell towers down
throughout South and very early you know, post the post
the kind of the guts of the storm, we just
couldn't communicate with people, and so we we we've been
(16:24):
dropping out Texas on a regular basis to try and
understand who's got power, who hasn't, what supports needed, and
then try and getting them to connect with the right
people to get to get things moving. We continue to
do that on a regular basis. Ina multiple I've lost
count on how many times I've had to charge my
(16:46):
phone over the last four or five days just with
phone calls. And look, our teams, yeah, you know have
worked through the weekend as you'd expect us to do,
ken to support dairy farmers and yeah, just hundreds of
course have been made and received and returned and you know,
(17:06):
messages passed on. So it's been not just us something
you know, the Fonterra team have been based in the
power net helping helping power neet prioritize dairy farms to
get Maine's power on. There's just been so many organizations
that have just stepped up and then you know, just
(17:27):
their rural communities. I think resilience is an over used word,
but I don't even know how to describe it. I
mean they're just just so good in terms of rolling
around and getting stuff done. So yeah, it's been a
full court press, so I think from all parties.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So you okay, messaging more or less today. Jared As
for farmers to check in with their neighbors and their mates.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Look, I don't think, to be fair, I don't think
they've got time to check in with their neighbors if
I'm being honest, because they flat out we're about to
you know, there's some farmers who are still dealing with
loss of pair on it. I think when the time comes,
you know, that'll that will happen naturally. But I think
look after yourselves, look after your staff. If you need help,
(18:13):
reach out. You know, all of our area managers on
are on der Insed website available to have a discussion
with dairy farmers, particularly if there's anything technical, but myself included,
so all of our numbers are on the website. If
anyone's got any consumes about anyone's kind of fatigue and
(18:34):
thinks they're don't too much and not in a good headspace,
We've got real support and just keep yourself safe and yeah,
when the time's right, you know, checking with your neighbors.
But hey, there's some good community barbecues happening every evening.
I think tonight Woodland's Rugby Club for that that area
(18:55):
five thirty eight o'clock and Robson Rugby Club for kind
of the peace out Western Southland five eight to get along,
we'll have people there. I'll be at the rut in
one tonight and happy to have a chat and if
we can do anything to help, just let us know.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Jared Stockman of Darry and ZED, thanks for your time
on the muster once again.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Cheers, Andy, appreciate it man, you.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Can Jared Stockman of Darry and ZED with some really
relevant messaging as well. This is the muster up. Next
we go to James Egger at Moa Flat. No, not
only has the trees been in this shirt, sounds like
snow's part of the equation as well.
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Speaker 1 (19:47):
Pretty much. Stephen Fleming at Second Slip, That is Cold
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We're away to Moa Flat next, catching up with James Egger,
Sheep Beef and Venison Farmer up that way. Jane's good afternoon.
How soon's looking over your way?
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Well, we've got blue sky yet today, Andy, and the
sun's out what I wouldn't call it is warm, But anyway,
I suppose that's the start because we and I've got
pair on so so things are looking up slowly.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I guess how long did you lose power for?
Speaker 4 (20:21):
We only got al one last night later on last night,
so I guess probably On a side note, actually, I
see they got one hundred thousand for the mere relief funds.
And without advocating too much, but I'd like to see
when the last of the pair goes on, maybe some
pizza and beers shouted for those linemen, because I bet
they've had a bit of chaos on And yeah, I
(20:41):
don't think I mind my taxpayers money shouting a few
few pizzas and a bit of beer for the linesman
after they finished their hard work. Well, I know, specially
when we live here, like it's quite isolating when we
lose pair. And yeah, she's sort of getting your own
we bubble and worry about your own set of circumstances
and worrying about your own stock and raisers and velvet
and you know, well we're chasing around trying to fix
(21:05):
all the pair up today. But yeah, we had power
lines sliding in the middle of the road for probably
five days. And yeah, it was at least four or
five down round the round the district. So no, I know,
those guys have been been working hard and I see this, Well,
I've got the pair on now, but we have a
(21:25):
couple of pair poles have got quite big leans from
where the power lines have obviously pulled them halfway over.
So I'm guessing that we've got pair now. But the
last of the fixing isn't isn't done yet, like there's
going to be a secondary repair job, you know, tidying
it up afterwards. But anyway, shout out to the linesman. Yeah,
I appreciate the work and everyone that's been involved in
(21:46):
the emergency response. We had Joseph Murney called in, so
I was impressed with that was actually the end of
a long day cutting branches off off fences and you know,
it was a bit puffed actually, but yeah, I was good.
Good to see Joseph, And yeah, like those guys have
done a lot of keys and probably kept the communication up.
So yeah, no, thanks to everyone's hard work.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
But you have had snow to contend with as well.
We had those snow flurries falling Gore on Monday night.
But you guys got a proper dump, didn't you.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Yeah, we got proper snow. We had about two inches
probably the place here and up the top farm. We
must have probably had six. Yeah. The great irony of
the thing was about the only time the last two
months we haven't had the wind, because the snow comes
straight down in big flakes, sort of like the winter,
and no wind at all, and it was almost nice,
(22:35):
not even contained with wind. Yeah, no, it's just been
a bit of a battle the spring. It's now definitely
worse than last year for us personally. The pasture covers. Yeah, please,
we panicked earlier, I guess, and we were front filling it.
But yeah, we now we're starting to yes, going to
(22:58):
take some real farming to try and keep everything going.
I guess you've always said that anyone can farm in
a good year, but you certainly find out your top
blokes in the in a bad year. And yeah, she's
becoming fairly testing.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I guess they have a mother nature. She's a great
leveler all round, no matter what your farming ability is.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Though, Oh absolutely, yep, yeah, yeah, we're just well, just
with the grass growth now is actually probably the main problem. Though. Well,
you know, we've got a pair on now and the
season's going to sort of been what it's going to be.
Actually lemon doesn't look too bad. We've got feeling at
the stage. Not that we've got tailing yet up here,
but yes, certainly that grasscover when you're losing like that,
(23:40):
you know, heading into November when we really should be
picking up your top growth rates the whole year, and
you know it's just hasn't happened yet. For a Tiger South, it's.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
A better balance as well as what you can get
done on the farm as well. James were planning out
the day just not getting a hitting, a hitting yourself
at the moment, I suppose.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Yeah, yeah, well not much changes for us even though,
so we're still next. Priority jobs are sort of well
tailing to be honest, because there's some big lambs round,
but we left the tails on some of our bigger
lambs down at Riverside, So anything that's really forward we'll
probably just leave the tails on, because yeah, it's easy enough.
I don't like cuting the tails off those really big lambs.
(24:17):
I think it affects them too much personally. And then
yeah there's lamb drenching and we've got one to be another.
I was actually just talking the wholly about that this morning.
At winder Crops. We usually spray out about the tenth
to fifteenth of November, but we're certainly considering the current situation.
We might pull them back to say the start of
(24:39):
December before we spray them out, and just maybe put
them a wee bit more area, just because I don't
see the point in spraying out graft and then underfeeding sheep,
so then our lambs get smaller and then we'd get
behind in the season. So yeah, we're just starting now
to put in place and do some thinking around what
we're going to do with the lower covers and how
we're going to change things. I know Cole, it was
(25:00):
up the top farm. He used to plant turnips and
he was doing that at the start of January, and
this theory was there was no point spread out grass
if he didn't have enough affecting the sheep's milking and
everything else. So yeah, I mean it's certainly different tools.
We've got to change our outlook, I guess. So now
we're going to make sure we stay flexible. I was
(25:21):
actually laughing in the middle of the pear cut too,
because yeah, things on farm don't change all that much
because we had to still velvet and the freeze velvet
down so yeah, he was sort of in the middle
of the long weekend and I was Johnny in charge,
and the jobs and the farm just carried on. So no,
it's yeah, it's just farming, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
That's one with the positors at the moment though, just
across the sectors, James, is the fact that the red
meat price, the price of dairy it is very secure
at the moment. I suppose, Yeah, it is.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
And you're still going to execute to get the kilos
out the gate. That's the important thing. So sometimes you
can be knocked around with the weather or doing different things,
but it's just to be yeah, keeping that in mind.
You know. I know some of the guys there they're
talking significantly wears lammings, and you know, sometimes if you
can try and get the same kilos out the gate
with leese lambs, you still end up at the same spot.
(26:13):
And that's what you got to think about once you
get into it. Is well, sort of like a bad
half a rugby, I guess, and need to use an analogy.
You sort of got to flush that one and get
rid of the half and change your mindset and then
look forward, I guess. And that's certainly what we're trying
to do now. I board through on the weekend and
we got most of the trees cut off, all the
fences because I just like, wow, when you first get
(26:33):
there bit of adrenaline. I like to just get the
get the fences back up and running and just you know,
hock into it. And then we actually gave my sister
down an out drive there there. We gave her a
hand on Saturday, and you've got the trees off her
fences and it was nice, nice just to get into it.
And then now we're just yeah, trying to look forward
and work out how this event doesn't impact their business
(26:55):
too much.
Speaker 8 (26:55):
I guess, So.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
What do you do to mistigate that impact that you
have had over the last ten days?
Speaker 4 (27:04):
I guess we're around with shuffling stock round. I mean,
then they're going to sell some store stock. We will.
You can sell use and lambs all counted, and you'll
find even with low grass covers, if you can get
your stocking rate down low enough, your sheep will still
whichually be perfectly fine, and they will grow away. Sometimes
if you have done that year, I mean, you might
have to put in the weave of extra lamb crop
(27:25):
or there's lots of different ways to skin the cat.
You know, we can be quite flexible in our farming systems.
Now we look forward to when the stags get their
velvet cut off, because from there we can sort of
lock them down into some paddocks with rougher grass and
then we can shuffle the sheep round and put them
into some of the valving paddocks. That's just early enough now,
(27:46):
but that's certainly another ten days and we'll start freeing
up valving paddocks which have got good grass. So yeah,
we can shuffle the using lambs round into there to
eat that grass and they'll let their blocks come back
away again and then they'll probably go. So no, there's
always things you can do if you actively think about it.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
James Egga of mar Flat. Always good to check on
the muster. Thanks for your time once again.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Thanks thanks that dye, and yeah, I hope everyone he
really looks up and you've got to flush the dunny
from the last you know, well, what's happened so far
the spring and look forward, so good luck to everyone
out there.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
James Egga from mar Flat. You are listening to the
muster on hakan Nui before the end of the Yell
and Matt McCrae on behalf of Beef and Lad New Zealand.
But up next from Melt McClain plus more, Sam Running Claw,
(28:49):
Welcome back to the Muster on Hakaui. Sam Rudding Claw
of Melet McClain plus more based here and Good joins
us once again this afternoon. Sam Hell things, Yeah, good things, Sandy.
Speaker 8 (29:01):
Yeah, I'm sort of feeling reasonably lucky, even though I'm
sitting at home at the moment without power. But it's
pretty pales in comparison to some guys out there. You know,
I feel feel for a lot of the people in
the in the region from the weather events of last
week here.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
So at the moment, while people try and comprehend what's
needed on the farm, insurance and the likes, this is
when it comes to the fourth Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
I mean people have got to what I look after themselves,
I think in the first instance, and yeah, think about
think about themselves and their families and their communities and
just do what needs.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
To be done.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
But there's no rush either, and you know that certainly
comes to like some insurance claims and that sort of thing,
like there's been already from what we've heard a massive
number of lodge claims, and I'm sure there's heaps yet
to come, so claim processing and response times will lo
we'd be pretty extended. But you know, you've got time.
(30:03):
You don't have to you don't have to get in
and get a claim in now. And sometimes with you,
with the passage of time, you'll find other things that
that you can claim on or need repaired. So yeah,
maybe just taking a breather on some of that sort
of stuff.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
It's always good.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
So it's not a matter of having to rush your
claims in. Just be measured and calculated as to how
the situation's unfollowed first, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:29):
I think so, like, yeah, certainly the stuff there you'll
know straight away that you can get a claim in.
But I was like, I was talking to so, you
know this morning. He's a dairy farmer, and he was saying,
you know, he hasn't even really thought about an insurance
claim at this point of time. He's just trying to
get his head around what the actual impact is. From
a milk perspective. You can see that immediate loss of
(30:51):
milk and come there, but yeah, what's ongoing impact of that?
And getting around the farm and checking everything out, and
you take some time. But I think right at the
very moment, probably the most important things to be doing
is just gathering that information for a claim. You know,
make sure you're taking plenty of photos of damage to
support your claim, before and after type stuff. And also
(31:14):
as invoices come in for cost relating to a claim,
make surely you've got them really available so you can
help speed up that process.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Another thing that comes into the equation SAM is business
continuity or cash flow planning. It's kind of in limbo
for sheep farmers at the moment. You may have had
a few drives gone to the yards, you might have
a bit of hog it wall lying around, but apart
from that there isn't too much there. But on the
dairying perspective as well, you're flat out milking the cows.
You're just trying to plan for the next three or
four weeks as to what's going to happen with cash flow.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (31:44):
So I mean for a lot of people, or most people, unfortunately,
cost of refencing, tree clearing and that sort of thing
is unlucky to recover by insurance. And we've heard stories
of that running into hundreds of thousands of dollars some people.
So they're just in the short terms of cash kefel
cash flow planning will be needed and banking support maybe
(32:09):
to extend overdrafts if they're in that sort of position. Yeah,
so we're here to help were here account it will
be here to help help with that. Thankfully, Commodity prices
are strong, which is a small sort of lining in this,
but I'm sure people weren't really planning on spending that
strong return on repeasent maintenance and clearing trees and that
(32:31):
sort of thing. So yeah, just I guess making sure
that you that you're just talking to your bank particularly,
and yeah, where we can help, we'll help out there
where we can.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
And the big thing is, don't feel precious of doing
everything today. These are ways tomorrow, right.
Speaker 8 (32:48):
One hundred percent, I think. Yeah, So I said near
the start, you know, people lily need to take care
of themselves in the first instance. You know, it's a
pretty tough time out there and really hardacking to see.
And I drove down to mccago on Friday, had meetings
down there, and man, there's some yeah, there's certainly some
widespread destruction and it's going to take a long time
to fix up. So yeah, I don't think that you
(33:11):
need to do it all this week. There's plenty of time.
But however, I guess there is some time pressure there.
From a tax perspective, if we can get if we
can get some of that repairs and maintenance into this
income year before balance dat, then you know there could
be some good tax benefits of doing that.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Now the investment boost scheme can work in your favor
as well.
Speaker 8 (33:35):
Yeah, one hundred percent. So right at the moment, people
will be probably thinking about purchasing a generator or looking
at things such as solar panels and battery backup solutions
and that.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Sort of stuff.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
You know, it's always in the case or after a
disaster like this, that you realize that maybe some of
those things that required and you just remember that immediate
write down from an investment brist perspective available but only
for new assets. So if you're going to purchase a
secondhand generator or something like that, you're not going to
(34:10):
get it for that, but anything.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
New you will see. What's the man revenues take on
the situation at the moment. What do people need to
remember here.
Speaker 8 (34:18):
So they come out on Friday and said there's no
need to get in touch with them straight away. Focus
on right now on recovery and looking after yourself, your
family and your community, and they'll provide support when you're
ready to get in touch. But I guess the main
thing is there was GST and personal text due yesterday
(34:39):
for what provisional tax was for Maybellance States. So I
mean if you haven't or if you've overlooked those, which
is understandable at the moment, just to maybe just either
get in touch with your accountant and they can talk
to the ID or talk to the ID direct and
to say, look, you know, things of things of pretty
(35:01):
pretty tough at the moment, so yeah, and they want
to support that. So yeah, just get in touch with them,
really is the main thing.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
So the big thing to remember is they are understanding
of a situation regarding leeway, Yeah one hundred percent.
Speaker 8 (35:14):
Yeah, but I think that they are understanding of it.
But if you haven't paid text yesterday and you and
you get in touch with them in February March and
say I didn't pay text back then, then they may
take a different.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
View on that.
Speaker 8 (35:25):
But you know, if you're as a geniorine thing you
didn't have internet or didn't have power or both of
those things, then yeah, get in touch with when you.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Can say in the team at malot mclaim plus more.
How do people get in touch?
Speaker 8 (35:40):
So yeah, you can either ring us in the cargo
which was O three two one four four one sixty
six gore is three to eight five oh seven seven
or hello at m MCA dot co dot MZ.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Can only say I'm always appreciate your time. All the
best right slip Sam running claw from well mcclaim plus more.
This is the Muster before we wrap up, Matt mccrane.
Speaker 9 (36:11):
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Speaker 1 (36:23):
Matt McCrae joins us this afternoon. He is the chair
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House things.
Speaker 7 (36:32):
Afternoon, Endy, you had another BOONI down macarator can't campaign.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Today to find bami Ah.
Speaker 7 (36:39):
It hasn't stopped raining for a while yet, but I've
got a rope over my head at the moment, so
I can hear you on the phone. Getting a bit
loud outside. I'm sending in the sheet a minute ago.
So yeah, hopefully one day closer to some sunshine, jeep as.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
We don't want their concrete to get dry, do we.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
Yeah, yeah, it would be amazing what we'll get done
when it does. Fine, happened, but yeah, it's been good.
We've had it way bit of round and been your
mud about. Now it's is probably limiting progress away.
Speaker 9 (37:07):
Bit.
Speaker 7 (37:08):
It's nice to see some pair of trucks going up
the road this morning.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yeah, what's the situation of Marcerda power wise for.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
Probably half all stages. It's going to come up to the
billions stages over the weekend. And we've got a few
trees over at Boundary and neighboring Gary Farms.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
It's sort of have pair on you.
Speaker 7 (37:25):
So yeah, I really appreciate the pair and it goes
working hard to get every one pair, and yeah, thinking
of all the all the others throughout the region and
that don't have pair or excess as well. So the
kids thought it was a novelty for the first couple
of days, but I think it's even wearing thin with
them at the moment.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah, A massive shout out to power, and that we
cannot underestimate the job that the teams are doing around
here in the south. The's hundreds of them on the
ground and it's it's a job that's just ongoing. But
as far as rainfall down there at marcaredas though you're
not immune to the odd drop. So but where are
you inside this time last year? What's the comparison, Matte.
Speaker 7 (38:05):
I haven't actually been a bit scared to work it out.
In comparison to last year, I'd say we're pretty similar
to be fair, I think we've had to over a
tw hundred mills around for this month and a bit
over two hundred for the month before and one hundred
at the end of August. Getting well up there for
us even by extend. It's but like there's been parts
(38:25):
of the region that I've had much more than us toes.
It's possibly the lack of drawing that's effecting us at
the moment. But yeah, we don't know.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
If we your whole.
Speaker 7 (38:35):
Time, mate, for conditions to come right based off last year,
everything will get done. So it's just yah taking a
breath and getting some sitting down and doing some planning.
So when that sun shun comes out. You can get
through what you need to do, but probably not rushing
things like tailing or cleaning up if it risks safe
(38:56):
to your long term implications around animal health and things
like that. Yeah, one lesson we learned from last year
is it's amazing what you can get a toe when
the sun comes out.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
I think the irony being this time last year I
said to you, when it comes to the rain gauge,
just go and drill a hole lot of the ten mills,
and you sorted right, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (39:15):
No, I did joke about that. I think I'll warm
my last one out, so actually putting new rain gage
up yesterday.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
And oh really, oh well, disregard and.
Speaker 7 (39:24):
Put a whole about five meals up in my old one. Yeah,
you know it's bad when you wear out of rain gauge.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
But what's the messaging from Beef and Lamb at the
moment regarding welfare. I mean, we talk about the situation
Lambing's well through for a lot of people, hogot, Lambing
coming to its conclusion, a lot of people behind on tailing,
and the likes arguably drenching of Lambs comes into the
equation sooner than later. But what's what's the messaging you
think people need to remember, Matt.
Speaker 7 (39:50):
Yeah, key things, I guess look after yourselves, your family
and your farm team and neighbors first, and then yeah
it certainly there's stop that stock welfare around water and tailing.
Obviously there is still a bit of lemming happening. And
but yeah, just if you're worried, talk to your vets.
There's a lot of vaccines been sitting in fridges that
(40:12):
possibly needs throwing out. There's swat insurance as forth. Yeah,
talk talk to your vets.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
Don't risk it.
Speaker 7 (40:21):
I'll see they'll put up a post on Facebook. The'll
be from the Facebook page today with northern South and
vets around some of the risks around tailing in the
in the rain. So the good thing is the forecast
is looking better next week, so a few days in
the big scheme of things isn't going to hurt. But
the main thing, look after yourself and your stock and
(40:42):
in your community.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Suppose it's it done if you do darned if you
don't situation with tailing, if the contractors are working the
time frames there and what I know, what do you
do there? Just a matter of having dialogue seeing if
you can swap days perhaps.
Speaker 7 (40:56):
Yeah, I guess it's fairly widespread and everyone's in up together.
But things things will happen. There's there will there will
be periods where the sun comes out and we can
get a lot of tubes. Yeah, just think about the
or my messages thing about the long term imtifications of it,
if you are pushing the boundaries, and how that might
slow things down. I realize feeds tight and underground conditions
(41:20):
are wet, but yeah, just make sure you those those
decisions are well thought through when you pull the trigger
on them, and yeah, and the other things around that.
The clearing or clean up has started pretty quickly in
a lot of cases. The big one is safety first,
(41:41):
particularly with the trees, and yeah, a lot of them
can be very dangerous. And I know a lot of
big thumbers in the region work alone. So make sure
you're communicating and working with neighbors and go and help
each other out would be the thing, because we don't
want anyone undred doing things that they shouldn't be doing.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
That's a major one there, especially regarding fatigue and chainsaws.
We can't reiterate that enough. Now, as far as events
that are happening South, little support trusts. They're on the
ground up and running and as well a lot of
areas just having community events over the next week or so.
By the looks of it, it's.
Speaker 7 (42:17):
Good to see a few of them popping up. Haven't
been online a lot with communication issues, but they it's
good to see row Support have got a lot bee
from them. I've got a couple of events up in
Roxburgh and at Nasdale later in the week and then yeah,
I've seen a few. We're having one after ram opened
here on Friday, barbecue a few beers too, so it's
(42:40):
just a good chance to look up those events. Get
off farm and no doubt that be something happening close
to you. So problem sheds, problem halved and people we
have some pretty good innovative ways of dealing with some
issues that we've got at the moment, so you get
off and re evaluate. We were at well Tefla. When
(43:01):
the sun comes out.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Great messaging is always Matt McCrae. Always appreciate your time.
Hopefully that power comes on sooner than later. At mocker reader, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (43:10):
Cheers any.
Speaker 6 (43:14):
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Speaker 1 (43:24):
Nothing like a dad joke today Heaven knows we need it.
I was diagnosed with the chronic fear of giants. It's
called fifiphobia. That's another one tacked off for the list.
Now I'm away until Tuesday. Chris Chucker Wilson will be
hosting the Muster over the next few days, so hopefully
(43:44):
the power comes on and keep connected with each other,
your mates. Listen to the radio, Listen to Hockey Now.
We get those updates so you can find out what's
happening in the community. My name's Andy Muller. Given listening
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See it Tuesday.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
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