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November 28, 2024 44 mins

Andy Muir talks to Jamie Mackay, Penny Simmonds, Steve Henderson, Mark Kelly and Phil Duncan.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It is a Friday afternoon, and once again Nathan Abernethy
from Regional Ford joins us as he does every Friday.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Good day, Nathan, Welcome to Friday.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Yeah, thanks very much, Andy, And hard to believe another
month is done and dust that I always say, you know,
when you get into October, into those double figures in
the tenth months, it just flies by. Well this year
it seems to have gone faster than ever, considering the
rolling into December in the next couple of days. But anyway,
look it's November's been a really busy month for us
and things are really steady still, some fantastic deals on

(00:29):
all new vehicles and we've got everything in stock to
at the moment, Andy, So the good range of a
Ford Ranger coming through of all models. We've got plenty
of Everest coming through in all models as well as
well as the all new Escape, just an all new
fresh model that's just arrived in Ford. Puma there as
well as well as Transit's and a splattering of everything else.
But look, lots of really neat commercial or secondhand vehicles

(00:53):
at the moment coming through and whether that be anything
from a late model Holden Commodore SV six Z series
with the nice ninety inch wheels. It's in a smoky gray,
really tidy with the leather like it's got to be
one of the tidiest ones I think you'll find in
that car. I think off hand is about fifteen nine ninety.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
They really don't.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
It's actually considering Holden, Commodore and Ford Falcon, we're really
the backbone of our businesses perhaps ten years ago and
beyond that. You don't see a lot of them around now.
We don't get a lot of them on the yards,
and when they do, they don't sit around that often
all that long. So there's a great car. But look,
as I say, plenty of good commercial coming through of
all price brackets, all makes and models. Remember we've got

(01:33):
Cody on the case as their business manager here for finance,
and we can arrange finance for you really really easy
and have you step out of the old into the
new without too much fuss. So look, there's always Friday
afternoon right here until this after five o'clock today, but
the doors will be open tomorrow at half past nine
through or twelve. If there's anything we can do, just
pick up the phone or come in and see us

(01:54):
and remember it's not just New Forward. We're not just
secondhand vehicles of all makes and models. We service will
makes and models, have got part thraw makes and models.
We do everything under one roof. So come and see
us here at Regional Ford Gore and Belklusa.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Go on your oh Jet next week.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
Thanks Andy, good afternoon, and welcome to the muster.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
It is a fryay. My name is Andy Muer.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
This is the Muster on Hakannui until two o'clock this afternoon.
Cheers to a team at Peter's Genetics. Welcome along. As
the end of a rather hectic week gets nearer and nearer,
hopefully weekend sport talks or talks. How about weekend sport
continues this weekend. A lot of teams got underway last Saturday,
so Phil drinking from weather Watch gives us a rundown

(02:46):
on the weather at the end of the hour. Music
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Speaker 6 (03:02):
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Speaker 1 (03:13):
The rest of US afternoon cloudy, we're breezing nor westerlys
and fourteen. Saturday partly cloudy, are lights south westers four
and eighteen. Sunday partly cloudyho breezes sou westerly seven and nineteen.
Monday cloudy lights sou easterlies changing up a bit twelve
and twenty one, and Tuesday morning showers of breezing north
westerlies fifteen and a high of twenty four. Watch out

(03:34):
so a Temperatures for you Friday, Clinton thirteen point nine,
Harriet fourteen point seven, Northern South And fourteen point five,
Relton fifteen point six, now fifteen Tindorah fifteen point two,
all the fifteen's there, Winton sixteen top of the pot
from Woodlands fourteen point eight. Jamie McKay and the Country
Crossover starts asaft for a Friday afternoon, followed it by

(03:56):
Penny Simmons, MP from McCargo, as well as being Minister
for the Environment. Steve Henderson farms at al Arua and
joins us every couple of weeks. Mark Kelly, executive producer
of the Country Sport Breakfast on Gold Sport give us
a run down on how the cracket's going and just
Sport ahead of the weekend. And Phil Duncan from weather
Watch gives us a rundown on the weather for the
next seven days down here in the Deep South. So,

(04:17):
without further ado, this chat to Jamie McKay and the
Country Crossover. This is the Muster until two o'clock thanks
to Peters Genetics. All right, it is the Country Crossover.

(04:38):
For a Friday afternoon. Jamie McKay hosted the Country with
an iconic song from the nineteen eighties of a TV
series Jamie named that tune.

Speaker 7 (04:46):
Oh geeve caught me out. I know exactly what it is.
It's the theme song to a famous TV program, put
Me Out of My Misery mcgiver, Oh, mcguiver, of course, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
And the correlation is because it kind of sounds like mckay'ser. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (05:00):
And we launched Makaisa. Yes that I missed you, Andy,
you should have turned up. We had a great afternoon
and on the show today you might have heard from
the two young blokes who drove all the way from
Ashburton dip Hag first year dip HAG students at Lincoln University,
drove all the way down, had a great time, and
they've headed off or they headed off again this morning.

(05:21):
So yep. At the Otago Golf Club. The tiny pub
was there, Richard Emerson was there, the godfather of Emerson's
pouring it and a great time was had by all.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
They drove down from Las Vegas just to have a beer.

Speaker 8 (05:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (05:34):
Because I was a bit worried about him, I said, look, lads,
where you're staying. I said, if you've got nowhere to stay,
we'll chuck you in. We'll chuck you in the pool
room at our place. But no, they had accommodation sorted.
They dropped their car off. They Ubert up to the
golf course and Ubert Holmes. So I was very pleased.
They're much more responsible andy than I was when I

(05:55):
was their age. Would have to say that we used
to drive up to Dunedin and not of yours. Yeah,
and I'm ashamed to admit it. The driver would be
in the realms with the rest of us. I mean,
I'm embarrassed to admit it, younger that the next generation
on are much smarter than we were.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Murray Mack tells a story about driving to christ to
get KFC. Whether it was him and r or Dylan
a couple of others, I'm not.

Speaker 7 (06:20):
Too sure that that would not surprise me. But I
mean those Belfer guys, I mean you got to got
to ask. I mean, who would drive their valiant through
a pub wall.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Ask yourself.

Speaker 7 (06:33):
Would only be someone from Balfer.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
The glory days, Jamie cabin Farming hot on everybody's lips
at the moments, but for the wrong reason. There's an
announcement due next week. It'll be interesting what comes out
with that, because this is a very divisive issue.

Speaker 7 (06:47):
Well, you talk about Belpher and Riversdale, a Balfer bloke
driving a scar through the Riversdale pub back in the
day while you look over your shoulder and you're looking
back at the beautiful hock and Uie Hills, wonderful north
facing farmland, and I understand there's a rather iconic property
being blanket planted. I hope I'm not out of turn here.

(07:08):
Correct me if I'm wrong. Blanket planted and pine trees.
It's just a disgrace. It's a real blight. It'll be
a blight on the landscape. It'll be a blight on
the environment.

Speaker 9 (07:17):
Now.

Speaker 7 (07:18):
I know that area well. I worked on that farm
when I was a young guy, so I.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Know it pretty well.

Speaker 7 (07:23):
And I know also there's north facing and then you've
got the back facing bit and then you go up again. Well,
if you want to plant some pine trees, put them
on the south facing, but where you can't see them.
So we've got it badly wrong. There are plenty of
places andy on farms, especially on bigger farms, where you
can plant a lot of pine trees. If that's your thing.

(07:45):
I think you're going to end up. You're going to
end up carrying the baby on this one, because, as
you say, there is an announcement coming out in the
next week or so around this carbon farming issue, and
I think it will be around reducing one hundred percent
of sets offset claimability for planting pine trees. So what

(08:05):
might seem like a really good deal now may not
in the future. I don't know the ins and outs
of it. All I can say is it's absolute crying
shame when a farmer can make more money planting a
tree that may never be harvested, and it's going to
be a real threat to the environment. In thirty or
forty or fifty years time than growing a lamb or

(08:27):
a beef or beef cattle. It's a sad day. I
just hope someone sees that sees sense around the blanket
planting of these properties. It's just wrong.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Food production is a big thing, though, and I mean
the more trees that go in, like with less he
use in the flock this year, and just animals going
out of the food chain, it's a real concern. I
don't know how this hasn't been picked up on before.
Plus you've got the other concerns down the line, Jamie,
Feral animals are going to be on the rise, fire
risks in a few years time.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
It's going to be manic.

Speaker 10 (08:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (08:58):
I was talking to someone when I was at the
West Otago show last weekend. Who's surrounded and this is
in the Beaumont that the Beaumont Lawrence sort of area
surrounded by forestry or carbon farms. Let's be honest, A
lot of these trees that are planted are not for
And I'm all for planting a tree and letting it
grow in at twenty five years, lopping it off and

(09:19):
sending it away on a slow boat to China. That's
called export income. But this person was saying, they're surrounded
by forestry, carbon farming, and they can't even grow winter
crops because the pigs and the deer and all the
feral animals come down and destroy their crops. So you know,
we've got this monoculture surrounding what's left of the pastoral land.

(09:41):
And I'm with you, and I look on the east
and I look at the east coast of both islands,
possibly not so much south, but the fire risk for
the likes of North Canterbury, Wira Rappa, Hawk's Bay, Gisbon,
we're a lot of carbon farming. East Coast, Poverty Bay,
We're a lot of and farming's going on. This is

(10:02):
going to be an environmental disaster because they don't have
as my understanding is, they certainly don't have the same
fire protections as you know forestry blocks. That of course,
it's in the in the forester's best interest that his
block doesn't burn down. So yep, and I also see
I also see Andy, while we're on the subject, they're

(10:23):
planting land, steep land that may not in the future
be economically viable to harvest. So you know, this is
this is nightmare on elm street if you ask me.
And I apologize to anyone who's sold their farm and
or planting their farm, I guess you've got no no.

(10:44):
If the money is right, but the rules are wrong,
the regulations are wrong for people to make that choice.
And I think and hopefully we'll see from this government
they'll show some balls and they'll and they'll knock us
on the head because they there've been a bit backward
coming forward on this one. Shane Jones, I had him
on the show yesterday and I said to him, are

(11:05):
you in the pocket of Maori farming here? Because Maori farming,
especially in the North Island has huge interests in forestry
and carbon farming. So there's a lot of politics around
this as well.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
And I remember you talking a few years ago the
price of one hundred dollars up getting one hundred dollars
for a lamb was the figure we needed. I'm going
to have Graham Butcher on next week and he's going
to go through and do a few calculations and in
his mind what he thinks it is regarding on flarm inflation,
what figure you need to be viable prestocunits so you
can this all comes into the equation again.

Speaker 7 (11:38):
Well, I think if you go back Federated Farmers, and
I'm doing this completely off the top of my head,
google it, Andy, you might be able to while we're chatting.
I think in about two thousand and eight or two
thousand and nine they came out with this T one
fifty promotion and that was all about getting one hundred
and fifty dollars for your lamb. And this is what

(11:58):
fifteen years ago now, I hope I've got the dates right,
but anyhow, that was their campaign, So that's what they
were saying was where they needed to be fifteen years ago.
Now you look at the on farm inflation, especially for
sheep farmers, especially in the last four or five years
since COVID, and that number would have to be two hundred,

(12:19):
I would imagine. So I know farmers are getting eight
dollars a kilo at the moment. Stulo was on the
show on the Country and he's been killing eighteen kilo
lambs in North Canterbury. They get him off early at
eight bucks. So that's reasonable money. But I put it
to you that a lamb at one hundred and fifty dollars,
there's no way going to match a dairy payout at

(12:43):
ten dollars or a tray of kiwi fruit at thirteen
or fourteen dollars.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Twenty ninth September two thousand and eight, Federated Farmers tagers
one hundred and fifty dollars a lamb meet them five
at Chairman Bruce Wells launched at the Federation's team on
fifty campaign and hastings of one hundred and fifty dollars
a land for the sheep, meat and wool industries to
work towards towards two thousand and thirty.

Speaker 7 (13:06):
Well, there you go, Andy, good good googling while I
was rambling on two thousand and eight. So that's that's
sixteen years ago, isn't it. Yeah, Look, I'll be interested,
and I'll tell Graham not to throw out too many numbers.
He'll confuse me. And I know he wanders into the
studio with his calculator. He's a great numbers man, but

(13:27):
he will do his sums on it, and I would
I would ask him the question. I'd ask Graham as
if as if one point fifty was the number for
two thousand and eight, if that was the El Dorado
for sheep farming, what is that number in twenty twenty four?

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Absolutely, Jamie better leave it there. Here's him, a guy
over to see you.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Out enjoy the weekend.

Speaker 7 (13:46):
Yeah, see him mate, Cheers.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Jamie McKay and the country crossover thanks to Linton contracting
from one former River's Daily into another. Pete Simmons MP
from mccargoll, Administer for the Environment, is up next. Welcome

(14:15):
back to the Musta on a Friday, tub thumping by CHAMBERWMBA.
Our music today is the year nineteen ninety seven, which
was a week while ago now when you think about it.
Penny Simmons MP from the Cargo as well as being
Minister for the Environment, joins us. Penny, good afternoon, Yes.

Speaker 8 (14:30):
Good after noon, Andy, and great to be with you.
It's really everything's steering up, isn't it getting towards Christmas?

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Well, I'm walking in the studiore. We've got two Christmas
trees here at the station. We got one in the studio,
a little one and one of the main foyers. So
we can't really deny it that it is pretty much December.

Speaker 8 (14:49):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, we're nearly there. We're nearly there,
so no look at and this has been a big
week for us, of course, because we celebrated a whole
year as government, and it was actually a good time
to look back and reflect. And actually I kind of
looked at what days alike and I thought, you know, Thursday,

(15:09):
here was working on cabinet papers, then lunch with the
EU ambassador, out to Woodland School for a while, then
to a union meeting for early childhood teachers, and then
out to a towel show. So it kind of that
was a good example of what a day can be

(15:31):
like in the life of an MP. But also it
gave an opportunity for us to look back, particularly with
the primary sector, because we've came in knowing that we
had to move fast to do a lot of things
in the for the primary set, and it feels like
we've done that, you know, introducing practical rules for things

(15:52):
like on farm water storage, getting rid of some silly
intensive winter grazing and stock exclusion regulation, pausing the fresh
order farm plans, and of course that was tricky around Southland.
We had to do a special, a special deal for
Southland getting rid of Haywoka Echinoah. Gosh, that brings shivens

(16:14):
down your spine when you say that term again, had
forgotten about that, Launching that independent review of ME sane targets,
and also establishing a pastoral sector group to explore ME
sane reduction solutions, getting that inquiry into banking going, and

(16:35):
boosting investment in rural support trusts and also catchment groups.
So yeah, a few more other things, but essentially it's
been full on getting some of those changes in place
for the primary SPT because we've got to still concentrate
on getting that economy back on track, and we know

(16:56):
that the primary sector is wade to do that. So
great news getting the official cash rate down again this week,
and that's going to impact on mortgages, which of course
farmers have got big mortgages. Interest rates coming down, inflation
down to two point two percent, so you know, they

(17:19):
are pretty good things to have done in a year.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
I are four words I never want to hear again.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (17:28):
I felt like that too when I was going through
all the things that had changed, and it was one
of those oh my goodness, I've forgot about bed. So yeah, no,
let's never speak of it again. We've put it to bed.
Now that we've got rid of it, let's never speak
of that again.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Okay, we'll bed those words penny from now on.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
But the good news story this week, the ocr change
this week. You talk about inflation being at two point
two percent, so there are subtleties occurring.

Speaker 8 (17:54):
Yeah, yeah, Look, some of there's some stubborn things that
are staying they're a bit higher rents and a few
things like that is staying up there a bit higher.
But generally speaking, inflation's coming down, so the IC can
come down, and that will be interest rates coming down.
And you know it's farm mortgages are so big. But

(18:16):
even thinking of a family with a health mortgage of
say five hundred k, you know, the difference is a
significant amount from when the IC started to come down
to now. You know, they could be families could be
looking at about one hundred and eighty dollars a fortnight
more in the hand. And I mean that's significant when

(18:40):
you're trying to sort of live from payday to pay
day to keep the food on the table and the
mortgage being paident. So you know, it makes a difference.
Inflation makes a difference. Getting inflation down so that interest
rates can come down make a difference in people's lives.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Calvin farming something that's a big concern for the rural
unity at the moment.

Speaker 8 (19:00):
Penny, Yeah, yeah, it tis and look there's going to
be some some movement on that soon. I can't come
out yes and say, but certainly we're very focused on that.
We do not want to see full farms being sold
for conversion into forestry, for carbon farming, particularly those LUC

(19:26):
one two three category farms land. So you know you'll
see some movement from us pretty soon on.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
That is this going to be regarding carbon farming and
farm use practice regarding sheep land or anything like that
by chance.

Speaker 8 (19:43):
Well, you know, we campaigned last year on making sure
that there weren't full farm conversions of those higher category
or those better category of land, and so we need
to be following up on that. We are going to

(20:03):
be following up on that, and I think people are
pretty aware of that. We've seen some whole farms being
sold for carbon farming just in the last we while
around the Southland area and that's something that we need
to put a stop to. We don't want to constrain
farmers on being able to do put forestry on parts

(20:25):
of their farm, but seeing you luck two free soil category.
Farms being sold completely to go into forestry is not
what we want. That's food producing land and it needs
to stay as that tell us.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
About your meeting with the EU ambassador sounds interesting.

Speaker 8 (20:44):
Yeah, look it was. It was been down here and
he had been open Stuart Island. Love Stuart Island, absolutely
fell in love with Stuart Island, so good on New
Stuart Islanders. We wanted to talk about a few things
around renewable energy, and of course Germany manufactures a lot
of the parts that we use for renewable energy for

(21:08):
wind and solar, so just having to talk about that
and also vocational education. Germany particularly and Finland and Austria
are very strong in vocational education the trades, so just
keen to have a bit of a chat term about
their systems as well.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
What was this you around the wind farms, Like, have
they been in dialogue at all when you're talking to it?

Speaker 8 (21:33):
Yeah, Look, we weren't so much talking about specific sites
here in south and we were talk more talking about
the manufacturing of the part for it and how it
would be much more beneficial to Southland if we were
involved in that manufacturing. So yeah, we're just talking a

(21:56):
bit more about that side of it.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Tell me y, you.

Speaker 8 (22:02):
Look, we didn't but we had blue cord. So we
are even Beisha one of the sudden third groups. Yeah no, no,
he's raving about the blue cord. So as as you should, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Penny will let you carry on. Always appreciate your time.
You enjoy the weekend.

Speaker 8 (22:17):
Lovely death Dandy Bye.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Penny Simmons MP from the Cargo Minneso for the environment
and been here, there and everywhere over the last wee while,
by the sounds of it, always ready to catch up.
Friday afternoon, This is a muster and Hakanoi. We're going
down to our next catching up with Steve Henderson.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
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Speaker 1 (22:51):
Bodfire, Welcome back to the muster on a Friday afternoon.
Now next Thursday, the fifth December, at ten thirty, the
Caves for Hospice Sale Day.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Is happening at the Lawnful Sale Yards.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Arranged transport for your cards to be there by the
afternoon or Wednesday the fourth. They need their Nate Air
tag and their Hospice air tag and the paper copy
of the ast missus all Awards south on Hospice. We're
catching up Flora Gilkison comincidentally on the show on Monday
to talk about this further. Steve Henderson farms at our
aua between Bluffing and the Cargill with his wife Tracy
and joins us on a regular basis.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Good afternoon, afternoon and up there today it's overcast.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
I'll give you the tip there rain threatening, but I
think you're supposed to hold for kid's cracket this afternoon.

Speaker 9 (23:34):
Yeah, it'd be a change. It's been a bit of
a bit of kids sports canceled later or lately just
at short notice. So now hopefully you do get onto
the cricket.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Yeah, it'll be interesting. Phil Duncan on the show before
the end of the hour. Hey, Steve, I had an
interesting conversation with Guy Michael some darien Z use today
regarding contract milking jobs, share milker jobs for next season
already and just some things to look out for when
you're in the process of getting involved. From your experiences,
what can you past comments on regarding this.

Speaker 9 (24:02):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's a pretty pretty timely topic,
you know, pretty Christmas will be a lot of people
even at the back of this current season, just just
contemplating do I go contract milk and a sheer milk
into a stay managing and yeah, there's a there's a
lot of factors to consider, so I supposed to be
just touched on the managing. Yeah, obviously haven't got much

(24:23):
of a financial investment. So the variable season like we've
just had where production can be down and and feed
rates for cows are up, you don't really have a
consequence to that. So you know, that's what you've got
toss up when you're managing that contract milk, and you
you can claim on the upside of the season. So
the next season could well be an upside of the season,

(24:45):
and you do better than a manager.

Speaker 10 (24:47):
And it's all about risk.

Speaker 9 (24:49):
You have to do your due diligence around the risk
of you know, milk production, weather, the farm, your employer.
So you know, what's the reputational heavy her that they
had contract milkers before is at their first season I'm
pining contract milkers. There's just yet there's a lot of
due diligence to do around going in your first contract

(25:10):
milking job, and probably what I can say is just
seek advice. So seek advice from people that are already
contract milking. More you're professionals, so they can tell you
the stories that have happened. So you don't find out
the stories for yourself. There's no point in trying to
reinvent the wheel. So it's just around due diligence and
talking to other people to realize what the pitfalls and

(25:30):
what the whims can be out of contract milking.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
When you're looking at contract milking moving on to new,
greener pastures. To coin a phrase, should you be apprehensive
or excited about what's ahead of you?

Speaker 2 (25:41):
How do you look at it?

Speaker 9 (25:43):
I think you need to be a bit of both.
So you probably need to be eighty percent decided, but
not don't go in with full excitement, and it's to
get about twenty percent. That's probably critical to making a business.
Hum you need excitement, but you also need to be
a little bit apprehensive, as just like probably orblects when
they play, they've got still be nervous or else you
get a bit relaxed. So yep, be apprehensive, but know

(26:04):
that you've done as much as you can that you
know what you're getting yourself into. Yes, I know a
bit of both, but yeah, yeah, don't be don't be
too excited and go in and go, hey, I've got
all this care series and out of the business, I
mean second year and you go, holy yes, I've got
a lot of text pay. Yeah, the new it's pretty cool,
but I can't repay it now. It needs to go

(26:24):
back and at the end of two years, equally gross
been five percent, where if I've got to be managing,
I could have been banking that and investing in the
townhouse and doing different things. So yeah, you've got to
be got to be excited, but you've also got to
be a little bit adverheastive but know where you're trying
to heat.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, it sounds very similar to sport. If you say it's.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
An eighty twenty racetio about being excited about having apprehension, Well,
it's all about just putting things into perspective as well
about why you're doing it.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Yep.

Speaker 9 (26:51):
And that's and that's that's the other story, Isn't it
like yet? Contrad milk and cool. I'm going to learn
a feit bit. I'm self employed in my own boss
up there comes a lot of responsibility to you. Are
you are self employed, so yes, you've got to employ staff.
If someone is crook or someone you know you have
some sort of dispute, you need to sort that out

(27:13):
and you need to be aware that that can happen.
Whereas on the flip side of your manager, you know
that there's a farm owner above you, or there's a
shea milker imploying you. So there's a lot that are
on their shoulders. So yeah, I've thought about your risk
appetite really and how much experience you've had around that
risk and what you've seen. And to be fair, there's
like there's many people out there that can have you

(27:34):
through that. It's just got to be a wad that
you need to see that advice before you just year
go balls in and go holdly heat bits and what
I expect it And the other one that this season
would have shown burnout too. So you know, this season,
like I've said to a lot of people's been the
busiest spring we've ever had, but I've got nothing to
show for it. And yeah, burnout is pretty real.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
And if you're a.

Speaker 9 (27:54):
Contract milk or skimp and staff because you're trying to
save a dollar. The dairy industry might just be a
one year thing, which is what we want to do.
So just just talking about the pitfall's.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Key the weekends upon us. What are you got planned for?
Are you heading off farm at all?

Speaker 9 (28:10):
This is a this is a carry on and try
and catch up weekend. Will make the most of it
in January, I'm sure, but man from the outer Christmas
and the old days are pretty full of just trying
to get things kicked off and get back to sort
of ye where we should be in the farming calendar,
and make the most of it post Christmas.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
All these Christmas parties, isn't it.

Speaker 9 (28:30):
Yeah, yeah, you look through the door, it's you're not
very not very good for the health. But yeah, you
sort of got to go to these functions and what
do you call it?

Speaker 10 (28:38):
The network?

Speaker 9 (28:38):
So yeah, they're always they're always good.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah, plenty going on this weekend anyway.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Likes the Northern South and Trotting Club for example, they
do this once every so often. They're Harness Racing Equalizator
meeting happening at Belfa on Monday and Sunday afternoon one o'clock.
Start there you go, rails and that's always a good
day out though if you want to venture to somewhere
different and different part of South haven't been to. There's
all these different events that are going on here, there
and everywhere, so it's a good chance if you had

(29:05):
the opportunity just to get a bit of family time
as well.

Speaker 9 (29:09):
You definitely yep, those events are good and you can
go for five minutes to buy their especially those ones
that you can jump and jump out, so that our
shelfin's always full of events coming into summer.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Absolutely stave they leave it. They're always got to chat
enjoy the weekends. Sir Steve Henderson Ala from Fila Vasha
by Corner Shop. The song is from nineteen ninety seven,
which is our theme for today. Mark Kelly, executive producer
of the Country, Sport, Breakfast and Gold Sport, is up next.

(29:50):
One of the biggest songs from nineteen ninety seven Hanson
with Imbop. They actually re released this song not that
long ago, and yeah, they're they're sounding a lot more
masculine than what they were back then, as you'd expect
with time catching up on the Mark Kelly joins us
next on The Muster, Executive producer of the Country Sport
Breakfast on gold Sport MK.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
The black Caps are in the field.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
They got bowled out at Glenn Phillips see how to his
own that with a bet at the end.

Speaker 10 (30:15):
Yeah, yeah, he did, ended up what fifty four fifty
five not out with the bats, sort of ran out
of partners as you do when you're betting at sort
of six seven like he does. But you're not particularly
bad score by the black Cats, so I think they
probably would want a little bit closer to foe hundred.
I think they needed up about through forty eight, I

(30:35):
believe so. But yeah, they are a early wicket with
the ball with Matt Henry getting one of the English openers,
and there's been there's been opportunities just recently a drop
catch by Tom Latham and about second third slip. So
the opportunities are there for the black Caps. They just
need to take it because we all know how dangerous

(30:55):
this English English side can be.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah, the tail wag. We've got fifty runs for the
last two wickets, so you take there.

Speaker 10 (31:01):
Yeah, yeah, and saying that you'd probably still felt like
we left a couple out there. Charlie gave away his
wicket as he loves to do and willow Rock didn't
really hang around too much. But yeah, no, you take it.
If you were to say at the start of the
Test that we're going to get fifty for our last
two wickets, you definitely take it. But again it just

(31:21):
felt like that there was more out there for us.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Does Tom Blundell his place in the side, does that
come under spot under the spotlight now? Given what did
you get seventeen? He hasn't really done too much with
the bat lately.

Speaker 10 (31:34):
Yeah, he's He's lucky that he does another role pretty
well though as in work and keeper. We don't really
have that next Test match wicket keeper coming through like
we do if it was in the t twenties world
or even the ODIs. You can throw Devin Conway the
gloves again, you can even Tom Lathan more happily take
the gloves. Glen Phillips he used to hold them a

(31:55):
bit as well. So he's definitely I would say he's
got one more one more test in him. Another one
who is I think he is fifty to fifty now
selection would be would be Daryn Mitchell, son of John
hasn't scored runs in a long time. There's one will
Young who got dropped for this test, who ended up
being playing of that series and in the India and

(32:19):
really probably unlucky not to be in the eleven for
this one. So yeah, Darryl Mitchell I think might have
his nose in front of Tom Blundell in terms of
position at stake in the side. But they got another
chance for the next inning. So yeah, both of both of
needs and runs, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Came Williamson. His class was on show yesterday.

Speaker 10 (32:41):
Oh yeah, Yeah, he's the best to ever do it
for New Zealand, isn't he And he'll he'll be kicking
himself about getting out of the in the nineties. I
believe it was seven years was the last time that
caan caane got out in the nineties. But yeah, just
a classic came Williamson innings. He at some points looked

(33:03):
like he was struggling out there in about ten or
fifty deliveries and then before you know it, he's got
thirty off nine delivery sort of thing. And he's just
such a fantastic daddy to watch. And yeah, we're incredibly
proud that he's a bay of anyboy, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Of course he is Hey, Auckland FC as well. Four
games in they haven't conceded a go yet. Top of
the A League.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
The Phoenix aren't going too bad either. As far as
football for New Zealand, this is looking pretty good.

Speaker 10 (33:29):
Yeah. One two in the A League currently at the moment. Yeah,
he said. Auckland FC have done exactly what they needed
to do to start off their life in the A
League four and four not conceding a goal. Newcastle Jets
tomorrow afternoon at Mounts Smart and as you mentioned the
next second as well, I believe just I think their

(33:51):
only lost has been against FC in that first New
Zealand derby. And yeah, it's definitely looking right. I wouldn't
say it's making New Zealand football look good because the
A League's not particularly a great competition.

Speaker 8 (34:06):
In the world.

Speaker 10 (34:07):
It's not like saying comparison to the Australian Basketball League
that's a proper sort of top ten league in the world.
The A League would have been a sort of top
thirty top forty professional competitions. And we're looking good as
a whold. And to contradict myself in football in New Zealand,
because we do have now a bit of an automatic,
some would say entry into FIFA Men's World Cups with

(34:31):
Oceani are now getting a burs so we just really
have to beat the Fijis, the Tahits, the New Caledonians
and where we get our sales into a People World
Cup now, so that's great for the game, and yeah,
it's been awesome. Next week is that second derby. It's
the first one that will be hosted at Auckland SC's
home at Mount Smart where the Warriors playing, and that's

(34:52):
already a seller and that's what nine days away. Next
Sunday's that game, so yeah, and they've started the bums
on scene has been good. I think it's about twenty
two and a half thousand for their first game. The
next one was a little bit light, about thirteen fourteen thousand,
but yeah, Aucklanders get around winners and they're doing just that.
So it's a great start to their professional football lives.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
It seems to be that way.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Kay.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
We'll leave it there and enjoy the weekend and always
appreciate your time.

Speaker 10 (35:20):
Cheer and Andy go the bab.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Mark Kelly out of the country sport break for some
gold sport before we wrap up for the week. Phil
Duncan out of weather Watch, and before we wrap up
on a Friday afternoon, let's get in touch of Phil
Duncan from weather Watch.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Good afternoon, Cel two great.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
Banging songs and are back to that just there. That
was their great songs, both both taking me back to
the nineteen nineties.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Nineteen ninety seven for Gina g and the song just
a Little Bit pretty much one hit wonder, but a
massive banger from back in the day. And of course
Alanasmiras said, the song's about nineteen ninety five. I think
from memory you ought to.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
Know that just a little Bit song there isn't You
cannot be depressed listening to that song. I reckon that
every psychiatrist in the country should play that song to
their patients across depression, because you can't be depressed listening
to that song. It's impossible. There's no Yeah, it doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
How's the weight been for your Phil?

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Not bad bade. I'm actually up in Hawk's bail at
the moment. And we had we flew down yesterday and
had the old hot northwester that you guys had yesterday
as well before that cold front turned up. And now
we've got the southerly, which I've got to say, this
far north is very refreshing. I don't know if you
would use that word, though you might just call annoying
and miserable.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
This weather system just continues down here. What are we
seeing for the next week?

Speaker 4 (37:07):
So we are really getting into the December forecast now,
and we've made a really big effort to sort of
talk about what we think is going on. I've got
an article on the Farmers Weekly next week. To those
of your listeners who get that the Farmer's Weekly newspaper,
I basically talk about my process of working out what's
going to happen this summer because I don't believe the
long term forecasting. I'm not a fan of it, and

(37:28):
I literally say in the column, we've all got that
one job at work that we hate doing around the house, right,
there's one thing that you have to do it that
you don't want to do it. Long term long range
forecasting is that for me. I don't like doing it.
I don't really believe in it, but there is a
part of me that goes I get why so many
people want to know what's going to happen, and looking
at the weather pattern we've had this year. Mixed with

(37:50):
the forecast for the next two weeks, it very much
looks like the spring weather pattern carries on right through December.
It might sort of fade out during December, but I
don't know if it will for south wind. So the
good news is just like true late spring weather, you've
got some really lovely weather coming up, but it's mixed
in with these crappy days. So today's one of those days,

(38:11):
you know, fourteen's, you're high lower three tonight. There could
even be a frost or a bit of ice on
the tops of the cars when you wake up in
the morning. But by the time we reach next week,
we've got daytime highs into the mid twenties and I
mean twenty five, twenty six possible by Tuesday next week,
overnight loads of twelve, fourteen, fifteen degrees for a time
next week, and then when we talk a week from now,

(38:32):
we'll be back again to the Oh it's slightly cooler
and you know, a bit of a west to southwest change,
but it's an interesting weather pattern coming up. It's a
fair bit of variety in the wind directions from westerlies
to southwesterlies to southeasterlies back to northwest is but the
common theme next week is west to northwest winds and
that's usually a little bit warmer.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
It's a real pick. It makes you giving.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
Us, Oh yeah, total late spring. Late spring weather is
like this warm one day, kind of cold the next.
I actually quite like late spring. I'm one of the
few people that doesn't mind a cold day coming into
the mix as long as it's only a day or two.
When I look at your ten day forecast, temperatures are like,
there's only three days in the twenties, and they're good days,

(39:17):
like their mid twenties. But the rest of the time
it's in the teens. And sometimes you know, it's only
around next Saturday, not this Saturday, but next Saturday could
only be sixteen degrees. Not overly cold, but not very
warm either, a little bit of wet weather. What I'm
trying to say to people in Southland is you've got
rainers in the forecast still fifty percent of the time.

(39:37):
So out of your ten days, five of them have
wet weather. The amount of wet weather is definitely tapering
off now, so over the next ten days, just quickly
counting it up now as I look at the screen here,
maybe twenty millimeters twenty five millimeters on the way for
ten days. It's not too bad. That's definitely an improvement
on where you've been. It's not probably where you want

(39:59):
to be, but it's not as as it's been.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
The irony speaking, the correspondence is that they're saying they
won't turn down any rain from now until Christmas based
on previous summers.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
Oh really, well that's interesting to here.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Yeah, good old Dill's down there and Andy Dennis based
up there at Manipori. Always they're saying the same thing.
Any rain at this time of year will appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
Well, that's good to know. I guess you're not making
hay at the moment.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
They're trying to make Baylor's. Hay's more in January.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
Oh okay, so that's that's a North Island thing, because
I remember making we make hay in December and.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Way cut it's too early in.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
Yeah, it's I remember doing it because I got Haye
ever really badly. You know, I was sneezing and they
said to me I could I could drive the tractor
and then I only lasted ten minutes before the pharmattack
to me, you're dumb because I kept running over hay bail.
I'm pretty sure if I did it now, i'd be good,
but I was not good as a teenager doing that
whole thing. What kind of tractor was it, I can't remember, mate,

(40:55):
it was d It was a rare tractor. But here
another story that your listeners will enjoy. I got hired
as a farm hand, like a farm helper, when I
was a teenager leaving seventh form. And the guy, first
of all, I painted his chicken shed. He owned a
chicken shed like a giant industrial one. So I had
about four days of smelling chicken poop ammonia, which is

(41:16):
the it's brutal. And then he said to me, oh,
I'll get you going and kill some rag warp. That
was a great job, just walking around dumping little crystals
on rag walk That was fun. And then he said
to me, I want you go on top the paddocks
and I was like, I was so excited about this,
driving the tract around mowing, you know, mowing grass like
great fun. And as I was doing it, I was like,
if I go faster, i'll finish the job quicker. So

(41:37):
I just spent the track, drop hit a bump and
the whole thing snapped off the back. And then the
last time I was invited back to help on the farm,
So then I got into weather forecasting.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
That's all we've got you speaking weather, Phil Duncans. So
the next ten days, pretty much we are getting warm
of temperatures.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
But we're not going to get a continual run of
cold of hot weather.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
Sorry, that's right. Yeah, it's a real variety. Wind directions
are constantly changing, and it's really classic late spring wheather.
Some days are going to feel like summer. Other days
will feel more like we've just started spring. Like the
overnight loads tonight and tomorrow are three degrees and gore.
That's pretty cold for you know, going into the very
last days of November. But in true December style, it

(42:18):
does jump up the city's December one arrives. But yeah,
it's still it's still spring. It's still spring, and that's
basically our long range forecast for the whole country. Spring
carries on across December. There's no end in sight just
yet for this spring pattern. And that also means that Larninia,
Niewer and the mainstream media are utterly obsessed about Larninia.

(42:40):
They've been talking about it now for ten months and
it's still not here. I don't get it. I don't
understand why this is the they don't. It's like they're
ignoring the Southern Ocean, and the Southern Ocean is dominating
our weather patterns so big at them so much at
the moment because of these major storms down near Antarctica.
So whether watch in rural weather, I've got this exclusive
sort of peace that we talk about, which is the

(43:01):
Southern Ocean that is dominating our weather. All the talk
about l'amina is just fantasy chat. There is absolutely nothing
happening there at the stage. It could change in a
few weeks, but at the stage Laminia is not happening.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
So don'n going to weather watch. We always appreciate you
giving up your time on the muster. Please sign yourself out.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
I don't have one today, so I'm just gonna say
you're funking with Phil Duncan.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Okay, there's a laugh out loud.

Speaker 11 (43:27):
Listen up for this laugh out loud with ag Proud
because life on the land can be a laughing matter.
Brought to us by sheer Well Data working to help
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Speaker 1 (43:38):
Yeah, I kind have given you that for a laugh
out loud, but I'll go a dad joke as I
normally do. My wife hated my impulse paratche of a
revolving chair, but then she sat on it.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Eventually she came around, So not going to weather Watch.
Always appreciate your time on the must you enjoy the weekend.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
Sir, you too, sir, Thank you too much. Great joke.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Us for a Friday afternoon.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
The best of the Master tomorrow morning, five am thanks
to McNeil Distribution, as well as a muster on Hockeen.
New podcast going out shortly. My name's Andy Mwett. Enjoy
the weekend, See you Monday,
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