September 29, 2025 • 46 mins
Andy Muir talks to Graham Butcher, Grant McMaster, Leon Black, Mike Hargraves, Warren Ross and Andrew Martin.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Sums coming best, good afternoon and welcome to the muster
on Hakanui. I'm andy meoi here until two o'clock thanks
to Peters Genelix. Thanks for your company on another blustery
afternoon here in Gored. But before we go any further,
the annual Yealing Recorded Jersey bald Sale that Teffy Limited
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is now happening Thursday, the second of October, So that's
this Thursday. Get in touch with your PGG rights and
stock agent regarding that one. So the Teffy Limited Annual
Yealing Recorded Jersey Board Sale is now happening on Thursday
from eleven am, inspectrum from ten o'clock. As well music
for a Tuesday while we're going September for a theme
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because it's the last day. Good ridd it's really been again.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Five day forecasts brought to you by twin Farm, Teffrom
and soft Tech.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
The proof is in the progeny teff Rom dot co
dot ens this afternoon or a bit quickly nonetheless, Tuesday
rain developing of Bristol North Westerly's twelve Wednesday light rain
developing of breezy westerlies minus three and eight might be
a frost in there goodness. Thursday, light rain developing of
breezy northeasterlies one and eleven and on Friday figure this
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sunny with like nor eastlies six and seventeen. Saturday showers
of breezy easterly seven and fourteen. Sold temperatures Clinton nine
point one, Harriet six point eight, Northern South from eight
point one rather to nine point five, Tire Now eight
point six two or row At eight point three, Winton
seven point one and Woodland's seven point eight, with Graham
Butcher Funk Consultant kicking us off this afternoon talking about
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the Alliance Group. Granted is as McMasters on the program
from Blake Wakatabu or close Perentation to be more precise.
Leon Black's on the program talking about young Farmers now
the Thornbury Young Farmers have their ninetieth happening in November,
so late lyon gives us a bit of information of
what you need to know ahead of that. Mark Hargraves
(02:05):
from Environment South is on the program, as is Warren
Ross at Way Moomy check a while and make sure
he's not getting blown off the hillside or anything. Sam
Rai from PGG right think gives a stock style report
out of lawn Bull. It will start the hour with
Graham Butcher.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, and look cow far we've come so far from
where we used to be.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Joined in studio This Afternoon by Graham Butcher, found consultant
based here in Gore. Good afternoon, afternoon, Andy, September. That's
the theme for the music today. I tend to steer
away from stereotypical songs for the time of year, but
I think that's one month when on the last day
of it, finally, it's been a stretch.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
It has been at great winter, great late winter. We're
anticipating a nice warm September to get lemming and feed
supplies underway. But it just doesn't seem to have happened.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
When you're talking to people. Feed supplies just pretty tidal.
Imagine so.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Declining, I mean stock and takes peaking ls not peaking it.
It's very high and the demand is higher than what's growing,
so covers reduced.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
How's the lamb drop seemed?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
It seems okay. No final, Well, we weren't no results
until tailing comes in, but I think it'll be okay.
Lambs are pretty tough.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
They're resilient to the words.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Well, I didn't want to accept word.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Fair cool. Look the Alliance screep these meetings are happening
this week down here in the South. Was shareholders, this
is an interesting situation that the cooperatives faced with.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
It certainly is I mean it was. It was really
presented as a fatal complete that Dawn meets is the
way we should go. But now we have this group
of five farmers, and they're pretty influential farmers, They're not slugs.
Have come up with a counterproposal, and I have to
say I have a certain level of sympathy for them.
(04:00):
Things have changed in the last six to eight months
in terms of profitability of sheet farming. Alliance have rationalized,
Smithfield's closed and the strates have dropped. I would like
to think that those factors have been taken into account
recently in the final decision to sell and in the
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view of the banks and what have you. They may
or may not have taken that into account. I don't know.
I would like to see the twenty five interim result
before the SGM vote. I think shareholders should have a
copy of how twenty five is panned out before they
make your final call.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Rationalization across the red meat sector as such, though well
it was just a tip of the iceberg Smithfield. You
get that feeling, don't.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
You, Yes, you do. I think there's still going to
be excess capacity there. But the twenty five result, to me,
is critical for Alliance for farmers to make a reasonable
choice about which way they should go. It doesn't need
to recapitalize. I think this group of five farmers have
realized that, and they have a plan in place on
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paper it looked recently brief the communications we've had about
it needs recapitalized. But as Alliance back and profit for
twenty five year, that's to me a key factor. And
you know, Alliance was set up. The co op was
set up in first nineteen forty eight. There was a
lot of planning and a lot of work done prior
to that date before it was actually set up. And
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it was set up because farmers weren't getting a fair
share of the market price. Okay, so that's why farmers
are involved as owners of a company. They get they
should get a better value for their product. I don't
think that philosophy has changed. I don't think there's anything
wrong as such with a co op structure. Maybe some
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of the board decisions haven't been that brilliant in the
past with co ops, but that doesn't detract from the
actual nature of a structure. So yeah, as I said,
twenty five accounts, I think the team of account is
alliance should sit down, do an inform account, let farmers
know how twenty five is gone. Then they'll have all
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the information they need to make a final call on
what they should do.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
There seems to be more questions and answers though around
the whole.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Situation there is, which is why twenty five accounts of
an intermview that would be really handy. I think this
bid from the five farmers, I think it has merit,
but it's a last achieve at the s GM's only
a couple of weeks away.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Do you know I have any smaller scale farmers who
would agree with their thinking?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I haven't. No, not at the moment, but I haven't
spoken to a lot of smaller scale farmers about it.
I think it's probably a matter of do you how
long a view do you take on the structure of
the supply of the meat company that you want a
short term fronting up with five dollars a lamb for
this next coming year than two dollars a lamb and
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two dollars a lamb for the next two years might
seem like a big ask. Or do you take a
long term view and say, look that the meat company
should the farmers should own it. They should have a
say on how it's run. They should get the full
market value return or the maximum they can get from
the market value in the long term. That would probably
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outweigh the costs in the short term. So, but if
you're under pressure from your banks and you've got to
make a profit, I mean, three thousand lambs fifteen thousand
dollars out of the budget next year, that could be
a bit of an ask.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Do you think the days of a cooperative model are numbered? No? Why?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I think it is for benefits of a farmer producing
stock to sell to a company whose sole purpose is
to get the maximum returned back to the suppliers, and
not necessarily for any other company. Their prime consideration as
the shareholders, not the suppliers.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Something there has been a good news story over the
last couple of weeks, particularly last week, is the price
of war out of nowhere. I wouldn't say it's raised
from the dead and making a trajectory going upwards. Graham.
But it's certainly a good start, and all of a
sudden Walls seems to have had got a bit of
gumption about itself.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Well. That last sale in christ Church there was a
sharp uptick in the clean value went up forty six percent.
The indicator good style crossbred Wall seventy eight percent, yield
three point thirty five greasy, that's okay. Sale costs to
come off that probably fifteen cent, so you're probably looking
at three twenty in a budget for that sort of thing.
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That's for the fleece line, not for the odd months.
Good to see when you look at the graph, it's
quite a remarkable uptick, but the scale on the vertical
axis is actually fairly small, so it sort of exaggerates
the uptick a week.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
But anything that is positive about wool, you need to
take it at the moment.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Couldn't agree more. I think when you look at the
sharing account, it'll probably be in the surplus, so that
when farmers start fleesh weighing Hogitwall again, we've made.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
It finally before we go we're management as well. You've
got a couple of thoughts around this I mean, we've
all heard about we're in burden's drench resistance and the likes,
but there's a lot of thinking.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Well, we're approaching another season a couple of months away,
will be right into it. Farmers are very good at
fetally accounting and getting the drench management right. But then
what is not so well done and more difficult to
do is looking at the effective lava on pasture because
that's where ninety five percent of the worms are on
the pasture. So you can have a very good drenching
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program every twenty one, twenty eight days, whatever it is,
but if the sheep, if the lambs are having an
intake or a higher intake of effective lava, they will
not reach their potential grid no matter how good your
drenching policy is. So critical issue is the laval intake
from the pasture, and to get some sort of handle
on the management of that, you need to know where
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the effect of lava are. So to be able to
do that is actually quite difficult because you've got to
look at your drenching program, your life cycle of the worms,
the climate, what grazing has been done by cattle. Are
you feeding crop that there's a whole lot of factors
that come in to determine how severe the effect of
lava is on a particular pasture. And it's not an
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easy thing to do, and that's the bit we need
to focus on.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
It's not that many months ago we were talking about
looking at your spring rotations for your young lambs and
the likes, and all of a sudden, here we are.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yep, it's Harley spring.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
So it's been. It's not brilliant pretty much. Hey, Graham,
always appreciate your time, mate, you yeah, you go and
wrap up this afternoon. Yep, absolutely, step for just do
Why Neil Diamond, that's not Neil Diamond, that's Graham Butcher.
It's a consulted up next away to closeper In station.
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Grant Disaster McMaster standing in the door by Nanny. I know, mister,
you gave it to my lave Grant McMaster farms on
the edge of the late walker tip of a close
fer In station and joins us. Thanks for the team
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at Abbie Rural once again. Good afternoon, disaster.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Yeah, ay, good up, and everybody.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
How's the rain situation looking? Did I ask?
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Oh, it's just the same old, same old, And here
we've had another sixty three miles of rain since you
and I spoke last Tuesday. And yeah, so ground temperature
saw temages today sitting about five point four five point
five with the readings I did. And yeah, still snow
on the tops. They're not really all that hot. It's
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got up to ten degrees now. But I just just
more of the same, really, Andy, more now on the tops.
And as I said last week before that, we had
all winter. And ironically, I think most I know Cornet
Peak and Coudrone Escape of clothes, but some of well
one of the kids were telling me the other day
that they've got a day's free skiing today last day
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that just for children, And yeah, quite ironic. You know,
it's a bit like last year. All the sun came
at the end of season. So you know, same old,
same old, Andy. But I guess every day we're getting
closer to it, stopping to rain.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
You're hearing at some parts and more than south and
going towards four hundred miles for the month, which is absurd.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yeah it is. And and but you know, similar to
what happened last year. And I was just listening on
the radio yesterday and they were talking about you know,
the Hawk's Bay and first places needing rain and it's
certainly not the case down here, and it just it
just is exactly the same as what happened last year,
and we talked, we've talked about it, and you know,
you go back a few years at that wasn't the case.
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You got to weave it a bit of cramp and
then it sort of got into it. So yeah, it's
just it seems to be the norm.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Now, disaster. You want to talk about the certain birds today,
which intriguingly enough, is actually what I'm talking about with
the team from Environment South and today.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
It's a matikan, yeah, or as I would say, it's
the Australasian bittern. Yes, And I don't know if people
are familiar with the bitter, but that's quite a coincidence
that you and I talk about it today, and.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
It was what I was wanting to talk about. So
about ten years ago, my fence and contract with one
Pedro Allison, who was well known around Wyndham. He was
fencing around the back and he gave me a call
that ninety fiftie. I saw the bird flying around today
and I said, well, Pedro's seen a few birds. He said, yeah,
but he said, I've seen nothing like this. So he
described this bird that just had big long wings along
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neck and its feet were dangling down. And I said, well,
was it a hearing? No, it wasn't here, And I
said a hawk, No, not a hawk saw I know
Perry Duck in the skies. No, So I said, I
don't know what heading sandwiches Pedro, but I would have
a clothes well. A couple of weeks later, I was
driving around the track and just driving parallel to the creek.
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The next thing, this bird came out and I actually
actually got a bit of a rider. But what the hell?
And I automatically knew what Pedro was talking about. So
this bird was just gangling. It was almost it was
almost looked about prehistoric, and and I just what I
stopped and I just watched it, and it just it
looked as though it was struggling to fly and its
legs down. Then it dropped down and open to the swamp.
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And when it stood there, I couldn't could hardly see it.
Just the was anything. So got home, got the old
bird brock out and not the one you're thinking of, Andy,
and had it block saw up that came up with
a bitter, and I said, god, I thought i'd discovered something,
you know, so it gave me old mannering at the time.
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And then I started to describe this bird story. I said,
before I saw I had to be a bitter and
gave another made of mine a ring, and I saw
he wouldn't. He started to be a bitter, and I said, well,
am I the only person that's never seen a bitter?
And well, as I said, I've never seen one. Now
we have cut along story short that was sort of bitten,
and I've only seen it a few times since, and
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over that time I thought just not well, probably two
years ago the last time. Now, the birds of New
Zealand the Target region have been searching for the Ostelasian bitter.
And I was talking later, I know, I ran the up.
She's part of the survey and I said, well, actually,
I said that I've seen them at Blake told her
the story. So over the last three years, I've had
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these artistic reading devices recording devices of twenty eight of
them right around various wetlands and the Target and so
they've gathered all the start and they've they've record thousands
of to listen for it and it's got a it's
got a really distinctive booming core and it's the male
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that does that during the breeding season, which is from
September through the December, and so so there, So the
birds of Otaga, they organized a couple of post postgraduate
students to possess the sound files from the last three
years and then they've got a preliminary graph out that's
showing where the where these visions are and it confirmed
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and it just confirmed that these bisons are widely distributed
across a target. But you know, they're not sure if
it's just the breeding pairs or just males moving between
the wetlands calling out to themselves and the dark. So
it's it's it's quite it's quite fascinating the fact that
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they like the swampy areas, the bloody hard to see
when they drop down, they just don't know. It moves
and they on little little fish and edge in the
water and what have you. So they're saying that they
know they They described them as a cryptic, highly mobile
and sweatned, in the same family as herons and heglet
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so cryptic and this instance meaning mysterious and you couldn't
describe Benners. So yeah, so they're about and they don't
know how many, but they're definitely on the endangered list.
So yeah, I just I thought i'd share that with
you today and you said if here that you're talking
about it later on with someone else.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, with Mike from Environment South and what they're calling
it the Maticki musters. Anybody that's fight the sees them
because they're rarey hard to get in touch with es.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Yeah, that's right, and so they've still got a bit
more to do. But but you know, the they they've
got a great year of where they've seen and they've
seen heard heard them in the in the many A Toto,
the Sinkleir Wetlands, down and down in the Catlands and
on Cornet Peep Station, the glen Orki Swamp and Laky
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Patrick here and on Coastburn which is just part of
the of the Tago one. So yeah, quite a lot
going into it. But if you see them, and obviously
back in the day they were quite common. My father
said to me at the time, you know, there's to
be quite a few of them around Tianno, but I'd
never come across them. But when you do, you'll know
it because you think you're watching a bloody. It's an alphabet.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
The birds a great way to leave it, diss, A
great topic to tie in with the years later on.
I always appreciate your time.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Yeah, okay, Andy.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
To grab Master a close friend station, thanks of course
to Batman and the team at ab Rural. Leon Black
joins us next talking Thorvery Young Farmer's ninetieth celebration November
and December.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
The fat.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Welcome back to the Muster and the Young Farmer's segment.
This afternoon is something a bit different. We are catching
up with Leon Black. He's going to fill us in
on the Thornbury Young Farmer's ninetieth which is happening in November,
which is coming around quickly the first of October. To Marriy, Leon,
good afternoon. Firstly, you'll be looking forward to seeing September
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in the mirror. I'd imagine absolutely.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
She's been a bit of a mind blower. Not often
you say this proudly, but I've seen over eight inches
Andy and that's more than enough.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
How different to last year? Would you say? The situation
is Lee? Of course you're about ten k's out of Riverton,
aren't you.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
Yeah, we had constant rain from sort of the autumn
right through last year in the ground conditions were palling
all the way. But we had a much better winter
dune July August. But the rainfall for September has actually
been more and we've had some pretty horrific winds and
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good lightning and thunderstorms as well. So a bit more
intense than September, but at least we started with get
a gre un conditions and the dairy guy's got the
caving done in final old fashion.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah, you're reminisced about July and August. It seems like
a lifetime ago now, like it does for the startup
of Thornbury Young Farmers, the ninetieth jubilee coming up in November.
Leon And when I do this cheat every week, it
was really cool and I appreciate meet he meets real
characters of young people coming up. But they've all got
a real dying diet in the Wolf fabric to make
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young farmers succeed.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Yeah, it's a great organization and it's fantastic training ground
for people going through to get some skills that stock judging, debating,
how to run a meeting. You know, it's been one
of the privileges of my life to be involved with
thunbur Young Farmers and Young Farmers and general, District, Regional
and national bill too. That it just it gives you
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a good heart that there's a future in a young
farmers guys and girls. So then the ninetieth Jubilee is
coming up the fifteenth November Indian and that's not just
for the Thumber Young Farmers, it's for Thornbury Country Girl
and we've got a special shout out to stablish Young Farmers.
Their club folded into us and Thombly actually helped start
them up back in the day. So any stablished members
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of older welcome to come along to the fifteenth November
and we've got a pretty full itinery.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Andy, Yeah, what's the go what's happening?
Speaker 6 (21:18):
I'd say to be a couple of bees to be head,
there could be we'll kick off for the challenge. It's
going to be set up by the Thornbury Farbergate and
held down at the Thornburrea Vintage Machinery and it's going
to be a challenge that the fiber Gates set up
for Nightcaps and Thornbread to play off, which is also
a long standing rivalry we've had, and then we'll be
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followed by afternoon TV and there cake cutting in Sofodos
and then we'll fall out of that part of the
thorn Bury. We're basically taken over the township for the
day and then head to the hall for dinner, speeches
and then a band and we'll see you on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Mate.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
What would you say the resurgence of young farmers? What
would you put it down to?
Speaker 6 (22:03):
I think it's good people and also there's there's some
really good connections made through the Young Farmers and the
various organizations that we've had a heap of businesses local
and national willing to help give us a hand, to
help with supper and laughing and tea and flights for Hugh,
so he's a guest speaker, Hugh Jackson. We've got a
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couple of carpetbaggers in the club. We've had Young George
Dobson was remember, and he went up some as he
moved back home, and so did Hugh Jackson. So they're
both coming down and speaking and and yeah, just good
people that you know. Some of them are coming up
from town to Thornbury. And there's a lot of I
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guess trains you or people that come to an area
to work often on the dairy farmers or with the
eggry services business, and they still like the farming side
and they want to connect with a group of like
minded and they do. It's great.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Well, it's like in a sporting scenes. I suppose ly
on the word coke is beaded around a lot, but
that's exactly what this is. And like you just said,
if you're a young person going to a new area,
it's about going and just meeting up with like minded individuals,
even if you're not involved with the agricultural sector. I
suppose yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
And I mean it's some basis to the club too,
Like it's ninety years running and we've got families in
the area that have like the Michael Strings Smith Flex
Flex that are third and fourth generation going through the club.
So you've got a strong base, and then they seem
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to be very welcoming of the newbies coming in, you know,
the Georgia's and the Hues and the kids coming out
of town and the service and it makes for a
great network of people.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
So what would you say your fondest memories of young
farmers would have been radio friendly.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
The radio friendly ones. I mean we had absolutely stunning
car trolls. I guess my fondest memory has to be
going to Woodlands Young Farmers Dance and picking up my
wife and she was cheer of Woodlands and we managed
to stay together for almost thirty years at the moment,
So that's been probably a big achievement for young farmers.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I'd say it's a pretty good achievement.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Yeah, And she's managed to produce three or four young
Farmers Cadet say, out of that, so that's good. We
got we got one up in the car Mendel Young Farmers,
we've got one in the Courier l Young Farmers and
one locally so they're still pretty well connected. And the
other ones would be won the National Debating Trophy twice
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stop judging national levels several times. So yeah, just some
real highlights.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yeah, i'd agree with that. When I was involved with
Belfer back in the early nineties, very similar. I mean
we were talking about names off here before that are
some noomenous for young farmers over the years, and we've
seen a number of clubs they've turned up, they've disappeared.
Although Likeily likes a Balfer and Tiana Australia off the
calf they've got resurrected over the last few years and
they're going absolutely gang busters for numbers. So it still
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shows that the Federation with Young Farmers as such still
as a high relevance. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
Absolutely, and and I think probably you know, they connected
a different way now with social media, you know, so
like if people want to get tickets for this, they
can go on to the Thumbary Young Farmer's ninetieth Jibile
Facebook page in the link through the tickets, and if
they wish to not go on Facebook, they can call
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myself on two one eight five six or brook Fleet.
She's on the committee taking registrations. So those contacts are there,
and you know, but they do message a lot, they
do have their Facebook pages and and and they just
sort of get on their phones and suddenly they're at
somebody's place doing something. So it's it's quite a different
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different third day Andy, where we made at the pub
the meeting and organized stuff. Nearly it's just on their phones.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
That's what I was going to ask you, how did
you have coke with social media bick in the eighties,
you reckon.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
Well, I remember when I run one of the meetings.
Been a life member, I get pulled in on my
wheelchair and get to run the agems and stuff. And
we sat down at the pub after meeting and they
all had their phones out and no one was talking
to each other and I said, enough of this and
look at each other a chair. But they are messaging.
The friends said that would been organized from the meeting
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and what they had to do. So you know, it's
just a different, different culture. But yeah, I do struggle
with the with the the club's got a proud history,
ending and line we fall cell phones and you know
that sort of stuff. And when we were the only
club to have two back to back winners in two
thousand and three, fourth for the Michigan Fander with Robert
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Keent thalling Croft, Yes we had. My father was actually
the precursor of that competition, winning the Nest Radio competition
long before it was a a tell voice thing or
it's not anymore obviously, young family. So so we've had
a lot of success as well before cell phones.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Certainly a lot to celebrate there, leons. So once again
thornby young farmers on social media, check it out or
get in touch with yourself directly as we able to
get a few more details.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Is that right?
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Absolutely, And if we want to get the numbers in,
we've got a limited whole capacity and we don't want
to see turn people away, so we definitely want to
get those restrations. And so we know we're at we
need to make alternative plans.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
And good on your lamb. Thanks for your time on
the muster.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
Thanks any.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Like Leon Black, Alumnia thornbreat Young Farmers their ninetieth happening
in November. As Leon says, get in touch to social
media channels, we get in touch to wreck because these
things need to celebrate right before the end of the year.
Warren Ross from my move Move but up next Environment
Southland Mike Hargraves.
Speaker 7 (28:02):
I've been again because.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Next on the Muster we're catching up with Mike Hargraves.
Here's Biodiversity Officer and Environment south and of course the
segment is sponsored by Environment Southland. Mike. Welcome to the
muster once again. House sakes Andy, very good, thank you.
How are you the Martuku muster? What's this about regarding
rural Southland.
Speaker 8 (28:28):
Yes, so we'll take it from the top. We had
to talk about Martuku muster, which is of course the
Australasian bitten or the Martuku hood epo, hence the name
Martuku muster. Now there's a very large and very secretive
bird that live in wetlands across our Heroa. If you're
not familiar, they can grow up to about half a
meter tall. They are big, beautiful, mottled golden brown color
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with a very thick neck. Listeners might be familiar with
their ability to absolutely blend into their vegetation. They have
a habit of standing very still with their neck pointing
straight up and they just disappear. These guys are the
champions of camouflage. They are an incredible bird, but unfortunately
they face a range of challenges. So because they are
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so secretive and move around so much, this makes them
very tricky to count. The estimates of their population range
a lot, but it's thought that there are less than
one thousand individual birds, so they are in vic triple.
That's where the martok who must have comes in. It's
a citizen science project aiming to get people all around
the country to do a survey of these birds at
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the same time to avoid double counting. In spring, the
males make a very low frequency booming sound to attract mates,
and this is what is counted during this Nartooku muster.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
So they're a very distinctive bird.
Speaker 8 (29:50):
They are very distinctive. Yes, they're not really like anything else.
If you are fortunate enough to see one, you'll definitely
know this is not an ordinary bird. Like I say,
very big, very thick neck, quite quite distinctive.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
So like some farmers and landowners if they see sightings
of them are tookoo. What are they to do?
Speaker 8 (30:10):
If you are fortunate enough to see one, I would
encourage that you can report these sightings to the website
called Eye Naturalist. This is a very good place to
report these charts encounters. If you happen across one down
the back of the paddock, you know, down the creek,
try and get a photo if you can do so
without disturbing the bird, would be awesome, and upload this
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to I Naturalists. I would say that it's being aware
that these birds might be using habitat on your property
as the first big step. They could pop up anytime,
and they do pop up anytime anywhere, so just being
aware they could be out there. If people want to
get involved, I would encourage them to get involved with
events like the Martuku Muster. The survey involves spending time
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after sunset, around the full moon and spring, so you know,
around this time of year obviously, and to listen to
that booming I mentioned before. All the starter is collated
across the nation and the sites compared to try and
do a good survey. The October dates are this weekend
with the full moon next week, which of course the
school hotly is still happening, so it's a great opportunity
(31:15):
to get out with the family, spend some time in
the evening and see if you're lucky enough to hear
a booming bitten.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
So why south in such a key region.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
We're very fortunate down here in Southland because we have
some relatively large and intact areas of bitten habitat remaining,
as well as some smaller and equally useful areas of
wetland throughout Southland. For this reason, it's it'd be great
if we can get out and survey as much as
this habitat across the region as possible to really get
a handle on how many of these birds might still
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be out there. Bittin are a highly mobile species. They
can travel long distances a lot further than researchers first thought,
and they do this as they're looking across the region
for the suitable habitat. And therefore, because they travel around
so much, they can and do appear in areas all
across the region, even if it is a long way
from another area of wetland.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
So supported resources that environments south and offers land owners
regarding them a Turkey habitat.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
What is there We're really keen to hear from any
landowners or groups who are keen to work to support
their bit in population across Southlands. These guys, they have
quite specific habitat criteria. They like large areas of vegetation,
you know, your rushes, your reeds, flaxes. They require quite
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shallow water for hunting, between fifteen to twenty centimeters. It
needs to be quality water that's clear so they can
see through it, and obviously needs a good source of
food as well. Their favorite food fish eels, but they
will also go for frogs and vertebrates and even crustaceans,
so they can offer advice on that. We also have
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some funding opportunities to help land owners to you maybe
enhance or develop areas of wetland on their property that
may be suitable habitat for them, and we encourage any
listeners to get in touch with us at the Environment
south and to talk through his options as well as
just giving advice. If listeners take one thing away today,
I would encourage people to go on the love Bitten
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website to learn more about better themselves as well as
the Martoku muster and hopefully learn something from all the
great resources on the Love bitteron website.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Good on you, Mike, appreciate your time this afternoon.
Speaker 8 (33:28):
Thanks very much.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Andycome Mike Hargraves of Environment Southland. This is the master
Before we wrap up, we're a right away murmur catching
out Laby and ross the musters on the farm.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Brought to you by Southland District Council working together for
a better Southland.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
The song is called September by earth, wind and fire,
kind of ironic for the season we're experiencing down here
in the South. This is the muster with Andy Muller.
We're right away Moomy next to catch up with Warren
Ross our way. Moo Moo corresponded, he's a deer farmer
and as well as our fishing guru and one of
our rallying experts here on the muster, good afternoon, while yeah, endlessness,
(34:20):
how's everything going up there? Not getting blown off the
face of the earth or anything silly?
Speaker 7 (34:25):
Well, it's getting close to blogging blown away here. There's
been a fever of wind in the last probably two
or three weeks. Should that really normally get these strong
ones until till Ontober? Who I suppose we are October
this week and this coming week, but yeah, no, it's
definitely we had earlier.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, we get into October tomorrow, which a lot of
people will be looking forward to. They just want to
say goodbye to September. How have you feed up there? Though?
Likes of it's been wet around the province, hearing some
ridiculous rainfall for September. Yet again, how have you fared?
Would you say?
Speaker 7 (34:58):
Well, probably we're probably feed probably okay to most people
around us, the Riverton Way, mos bron Way, probably even
what Cake Teppingoy Way.
Speaker 9 (35:08):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (35:09):
Look, last Thursday Friday was just dark airs, black hairs
up towards what Ca Care that way and they got
a lot of heavy rain. I would have thought, whereas
the sun was out here at the farm all.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Day so what have you been up too lately? You
don't have to do a lemming beat, or if you did,
it was over and done with about six months ago.
By the sounds of it, your lands are just about
rudy for the works.
Speaker 7 (35:30):
I'd say, yeah, no, we've got ye, let me beat.
Heappened back in June or maybe July, so it was
uh and there's fourteen lambs out of them, so yeah,
they're probably be ready to be tailed, probably too big
to be seed. But that's they're going good. Now that's
the extent of a lemming. But we do do a carving,
beef carving, so trick along.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
All right, how many beefees have you got the cave?
Speaker 7 (35:55):
We got seventy odd beef cows and about ninety odd
to heapers wall carving. He's probably running one hundred and
fifty odds.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I guess what break? Do you run?
Speaker 7 (36:06):
A mixture of hereford, straight here for and or straight angus?
And yeah, we've got to put a black ball across
them all this year, so we get a mixture of
you get the odd read one most of more black
whiteface things. So yeah, know they're good, good animals.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
I dare say they'll be looking not too badly or
things considered heading into spring proper. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:25):
Absolutely, yeah, So yeah, that all the heapers master heapers
get killed in February March once we win them, and
they still go through is his heapers on killing seats.
So we paid pretty good money for them.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
It's really good money for Kettle at the moment, it's
almost the best that's ever been. Did they shape?
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (36:43):
Absolutely. You know, I think the last lot of animals
we killed were eight dollars fifty, but I think it's
gone up since then as well, So I know it's
the beef and lamb are actually tricking along pretty good.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
As far as the venison schedule, because you're a deer
farmer out there as well. I remember David Stevens a
few months back saying ten dollars was the price you're
aiming for being a venison farmer, but lately you're saying
it's gone above that.
Speaker 7 (37:06):
Yeah. No, absolutely, So we signed contracts back in May
or do not think it was, And that's for like
a teen dollars thirty or forty minimum payout contract pay
Now it's up to eleven twenty I think is what
we've got for the last seat last week, So no,
it's anytime. This is probably where it needs to be,
to be honest, So now it's tricking long.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
We're right.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
What would your break even point be with deer.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
Probably probably the venice and it would have to be done.
I'd say, probably know one eighteen dollars or something, I
guess just with all a cossack better incurred these days,
of course, sir, so i'd say to be nine eighteen dollars.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
I would have thought, of course, if you're a deer farmer,
this is almost like your quiet time of year.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
Absolutely, yep, No, this is definitely September and October are
acquius tim or we're still fedting, bailing, still feeding probably
team that was a baillaty other day, to horns that
are on crop in a food beef cattle, staggs and
winers are on grass. The stags obviously grow velvet now
and we're we're actually trying to separate get some winners
(38:09):
into the sheet, to separate steak forwards and hind forms.
But in the wind. Yeah, bit of a challenge, so
we you haven't been doing that lately.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
How many animals would you have on that schedule for
the deer.
Speaker 7 (38:19):
If you've got a lock down a contract, when the
contract goes right through to Christmas time, I mean as
soon as we get to mid October, end of October,
the price starts dropping a wee bit, but as good.
I think it's still ten dollars sixty or eighty right
through to crystals time anyhow, wh which would be good.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
There's still pretty good, pretty damn good coin for Venus
and compared to where it's been.
Speaker 7 (38:41):
Though, absolutely as we've had some we have had some
very tough years over over the last few years, but
we probably the last teen fifteen years have been some
really hard years. But so I know we're we're sort
of tricking on the right.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
So you're feeding a little bit of Baylor jet. Is
that just on the remnants of the crop?
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Ah?
Speaker 7 (38:57):
Yep, great, absolutely, so the crop is pretty much done
anyhow However, we were a grub prepared yesterday and there's
still the old bit of beat coming up. So the
older hold he install you get a little little month
today today anyhow.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
So yeah, well it's like a big wooly beard you
get a second fee a sup.
Speaker 7 (39:14):
Well, that's right, you know, but I do come off
sort of towards I know another week will come off
and put a little bit of grass. I'm just happy
to get all your boosts before Chet's talking the end
of the month, for the end of October.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Well, we know you're a big fan of motorsport. Roger
Lead was on the Muster last Thursday to give a
bit of a run down or suppose of what the
East and South and rallying scene was like. And it
was really interesting Yan as well, because it's a sport
you know, exists without knowing a whole lot about it,
you know absolutely.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
I sort of haven't really known too much about it all,
to be honest, but it's just been this last well
the last six or eight months really that I've really
started to get into. I guess so's it's it's interesting
to know and I need to learn more about it
in the way of all the different classes and what's
to carry on?
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Are you keen to be your driver?
Speaker 7 (40:02):
No, I haven't had an opportunity to sit beside the
CADI a month ago, I say, but I chose not
to because I thought I'm what yet hooked on it,
so I stay even stay out of the passage of
seat from.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Well, you didn't even know. If you don't find out
what's the old sale, you can't saying you can't be
given out if you don't appeal.
Speaker 7 (40:18):
Well, that is true.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
That is great days.
Speaker 7 (40:21):
I wonder one day I'll get I'll have a seat
sup side them and see how it goes.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
As far as as as far as the fishing side
of things be pretty limited lately. Although you had to
go white baiting. Were they running?
Speaker 7 (40:32):
We had a white banden on Sunday, but I think
it was like got born than it. No that it
wasn't so good. You got four four there's not enough
to make a petty, so we threw them back. So
Dead when Dead was down there on Thursday for the
first time and they got about two hundred and twenty
old grams or something. So it's just a we feed,
(40:54):
but the first time out doing it.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
So yeah, you're very much hearing mixed Telly's about what's
happening at the over made. The river water has been
pretty high too by all accounts.
Speaker 7 (41:03):
Yeah, it's been pretty high about apparently it's still run
with ministering water. So from what I can get that,
there's been a few stands down on the tower. They've
been going all right, So yeah, as I say, you're
just gonna be abad to doing it.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Absolutely you do. Well, Hey, we'll leave it there. Always
appreciate your time. You stay warm in that wind this afternoon.
Speaker 7 (41:21):
Yep, no goods, gold Andy gratulated.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
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the land can be a laughing matter. Brought to us
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Speaker 1 (41:37):
What's worse than a box full of snakes? A box
that was supposed to be full of snakes. That's the
rather key, we joked though, remembering the Shaky Isles snake
free and proud of it. Although the arguing is zere
they might go not too badly around hay Shead's and
the likes. But that's a subject we don't need to
worry about. Right, that's us for the afternoon. I mean,
(42:00):
you've been listening to the muster and hock and now
each is to Peters and Nix. Enjoy the afternoon, keep
going catch up tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (42:14):
Hey, well all right, sir, he we'll go there.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
And what did it go on again? For PGG writes
and present stock selling action that happened at the Louisville
Sale Yards this morning, so we got Andrew Marson on
the line give us a rundown on prices. Good afternoon, mate,
how do we go?
Speaker 9 (42:29):
Yeah, things are pretty steady again. We continue to get good,
solid yardings of prime lambs for this time of year.
I think we had three to four race falls of
those again today. Prices are fully firm on previous weeks.
Heimd for the using lambs starting to appear as we
get to that time of year also and just starting
(42:52):
to s we increase in wet dry starting to drift
in as well. But we'll go through those prices for you.
The best of the old seasons lams two eighty three
to three thirty seconds at two twenty through to two sixty.
Third cut of prime lambs at one sixty through to
one ninety five. Best of the US one hundred and
eighty three to two hundred and thirty dollars one forty
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to one seventy for the second cut prime use, and
one ten through to one thirty five for the third
cut with a very light condition used in the sixty
to one hundred dollar bracket. Best of the rams at
eighty dollars second cut sixty five to seventy, with lighter
rams in the forty to sixty dollars bracket store lambs.
Quality store lambs continue to sell well, one fifty through
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to one sixty five for the best, one twenty to
one forty for the second, and one hundred through to
one hundred and fifteen for the third cut. As mentioned,
probably probably ten or twelve pens are using lambs in
there today and they range from one hundred and twenty
through to one hundred and forty dollars will counted. We
are starting to see just a number of teeth starting
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to cut and pop on those on those winter lamb,
So if you are sitting on a few of those,
just just be mindful of those teeth coming through. Into
the prime cattle market we go the best of the
prime stairs, and heifers for one hundred and eighty kilos
are better, ranging from four dollars forty to four dollars
fifty per kilo. Cattle in the four twenty to four
(44:19):
to sixty range were four dollars thirty per kilo, and
cows four fifty k's and better at two dollars seventy.
Just a small yarding of prime cattle selling with goods
firm demand stores. The store cattle two year semi cross
stairs at four hundred and fifteen kilos made two thousand
and seventy five dollars. Heifers two heipers at three seventy
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five kilos made eighteen hundred dollars into that yelling market.
We go some charlet cross stairs at two hundred and
eighty kilos. We're thirteen fifty Hereford cross heppers at two
thirty kilos at one thousand and thirty five and balls
at one hundred and eighty. Hereford cross bulls at one
hundred and eighty kilos made eight hundred for sixty dollars.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
More. Store cattle.
Speaker 9 (45:06):
In the main race was reasonably full, and two year
old cattle continue to be in very very hot demand.
We're still getting a few Bobby calves in the best
of the heir for cross balls at one hundred and
fifty dollars, the best of the heifers around fifty dollars
in freezing balls at fifty dollars. The limited demand starting
to come through on the calves as we get towards
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the end of that carving season. So just be mindful
from a selling point of view that that carve market
is just starting to reduce. Just a heads up around
bull sales. We do have a date change for the
taffy sale which will set down for tomorrow the first
of October. It has been shifted to Thursday, the second
(45:51):
of October at eleven am and that is a call
to road at Cowana. So just anyone was thinking of
attending that at date change when the first to Thursday
the second our October or spring ball sales are in
full swing at the moment, they are pretty much starting
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from now running right the way through to about Labor
weekend and a full incomprehensive list of those will be
either advertised through the newspaper system or on the PGG
Rights Facebook page. Just also to the listeners. New ASDs
are now in force as of the first of October,
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and so just be mindful that be mindful that those
new books are in forced. And if you are thinking
of sending stock anywhere really but in particular into the saliads.
If we could have the new current ASTs.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
And that about brats us up
Speaker 9 (46:53):
From the Laudville siliods,
Sums coming best, good afternoon and welcome to the muster
on Hakanui. I'm andy meoi here until two o'clock thanks
to Peters Genelix. Thanks for your company on another blustery
afternoon here in Gored. But before we go any further,
the annual Yealing Recorded Jersey bald Sale that Teffy Limited
(00:27):
is now happening Thursday, the second of October, So that's
this Thursday. Get in touch with your PGG rights and
stock agent regarding that one. So the Teffy Limited Annual
Yealing Recorded Jersey Board Sale is now happening on Thursday
from eleven am, inspectrum from ten o'clock. As well music
for a Tuesday while we're going September for a theme
(00:49):
because it's the last day. Good ridd it's really been again.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Five day forecasts brought to you by twin Farm, Teffrom
and soft Tech.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
The proof is in the progeny teff Rom dot co
dot ens this afternoon or a bit quickly nonetheless, Tuesday
rain developing of Bristol North Westerly's twelve Wednesday light rain
developing of breezy westerlies minus three and eight might be
a frost in there goodness. Thursday, light rain developing of
breezy northeasterlies one and eleven and on Friday figure this
(01:21):
sunny with like nor eastlies six and seventeen. Saturday showers
of breezy easterly seven and fourteen. Sold temperatures Clinton nine
point one, Harriet six point eight, Northern South from eight
point one rather to nine point five, Tire Now eight
point six two or row At eight point three, Winton
seven point one and Woodland's seven point eight, with Graham
Butcher Funk Consultant kicking us off this afternoon talking about
(01:44):
the Alliance Group. Granted is as McMasters on the program
from Blake Wakatabu or close Perentation to be more precise.
Leon Black's on the program talking about young Farmers now
the Thornbury Young Farmers have their ninetieth happening in November,
so late lyon gives us a bit of information of
what you need to know ahead of that. Mark Hargraves
(02:05):
from Environment South is on the program, as is Warren
Ross at Way Moomy check a while and make sure
he's not getting blown off the hillside or anything. Sam
Rai from PGG right think gives a stock style report
out of lawn Bull. It will start the hour with
Graham Butcher.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, and look cow far we've come so far from
where we used to be.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Joined in studio This Afternoon by Graham Butcher, found consultant
based here in Gore. Good afternoon, afternoon, Andy, September. That's
the theme for the music today. I tend to steer
away from stereotypical songs for the time of year, but
I think that's one month when on the last day
of it, finally, it's been a stretch.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
It has been at great winter, great late winter. We're
anticipating a nice warm September to get lemming and feed
supplies underway. But it just doesn't seem to have happened.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
When you're talking to people. Feed supplies just pretty tidal.
Imagine so.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Declining, I mean stock and takes peaking ls not peaking it.
It's very high and the demand is higher than what's growing,
so covers reduced.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
How's the lamb drop seemed?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
It seems okay. No final, Well, we weren't no results
until tailing comes in, but I think it'll be okay.
Lambs are pretty tough.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
They're resilient to the words.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Well, I didn't want to accept word.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Fair cool. Look the Alliance screep these meetings are happening
this week down here in the South. Was shareholders, this
is an interesting situation that the cooperatives faced with.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
It certainly is I mean it was. It was really
presented as a fatal complete that Dawn meets is the
way we should go. But now we have this group
of five farmers, and they're pretty influential farmers, They're not slugs.
Have come up with a counterproposal, and I have to
say I have a certain level of sympathy for them.
(04:00):
Things have changed in the last six to eight months
in terms of profitability of sheet farming. Alliance have rationalized,
Smithfield's closed and the strates have dropped. I would like
to think that those factors have been taken into account
recently in the final decision to sell and in the
(04:20):
view of the banks and what have you. They may
or may not have taken that into account. I don't know.
I would like to see the twenty five interim result
before the SGM vote. I think shareholders should have a
copy of how twenty five is panned out before they
make your final call.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Rationalization across the red meat sector as such, though well
it was just a tip of the iceberg Smithfield. You
get that feeling, don't.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
You, Yes, you do. I think there's still going to
be excess capacity there. But the twenty five result, to me,
is critical for Alliance for farmers to make a reasonable
choice about which way they should go. It doesn't need
to recapitalize. I think this group of five farmers have
realized that, and they have a plan in place on
(05:09):
paper it looked recently brief the communications we've had about
it needs recapitalized. But as Alliance back and profit for
twenty five year, that's to me a key factor. And
you know, Alliance was set up. The co op was
set up in first nineteen forty eight. There was a
lot of planning and a lot of work done prior
to that date before it was actually set up. And
(05:31):
it was set up because farmers weren't getting a fair
share of the market price. Okay, so that's why farmers
are involved as owners of a company. They get they
should get a better value for their product. I don't
think that philosophy has changed. I don't think there's anything
wrong as such with a co op structure. Maybe some
(05:53):
of the board decisions haven't been that brilliant in the
past with co ops, but that doesn't detract from the
actual nature of a structure. So yeah, as I said,
twenty five accounts, I think the team of account is
alliance should sit down, do an inform account, let farmers
know how twenty five is gone. Then they'll have all
(06:14):
the information they need to make a final call on
what they should do.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
There seems to be more questions and answers though around
the whole.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Situation there is, which is why twenty five accounts of
an intermview that would be really handy. I think this
bid from the five farmers, I think it has merit,
but it's a last achieve at the s GM's only
a couple of weeks away.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Do you know I have any smaller scale farmers who
would agree with their thinking?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I haven't. No, not at the moment, but I haven't
spoken to a lot of smaller scale farmers about it.
I think it's probably a matter of do you how
long a view do you take on the structure of
the supply of the meat company that you want a
short term fronting up with five dollars a lamb for
this next coming year than two dollars a lamb and
(07:07):
two dollars a lamb for the next two years might
seem like a big ask. Or do you take a
long term view and say, look that the meat company
should the farmers should own it. They should have a
say on how it's run. They should get the full
market value return or the maximum they can get from
the market value in the long term. That would probably
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outweigh the costs in the short term. So, but if
you're under pressure from your banks and you've got to
make a profit, I mean, three thousand lambs fifteen thousand
dollars out of the budget next year, that could be
a bit of an ask.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Do you think the days of a cooperative model are numbered? No? Why?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I think it is for benefits of a farmer producing
stock to sell to a company whose sole purpose is
to get the maximum returned back to the suppliers, and
not necessarily for any other company. Their prime consideration as
the shareholders, not the suppliers.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Something there has been a good news story over the
last couple of weeks, particularly last week, is the price
of war out of nowhere. I wouldn't say it's raised
from the dead and making a trajectory going upwards. Graham.
But it's certainly a good start, and all of a
sudden Walls seems to have had got a bit of
gumption about itself.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Well. That last sale in christ Church there was a
sharp uptick in the clean value went up forty six percent.
The indicator good style crossbred Wall seventy eight percent, yield
three point thirty five greasy, that's okay. Sale costs to
come off that probably fifteen cent, so you're probably looking
at three twenty in a budget for that sort of thing.
(08:47):
That's for the fleece line, not for the odd months.
Good to see when you look at the graph, it's
quite a remarkable uptick, but the scale on the vertical
axis is actually fairly small, so it sort of exaggerates
the uptick a week.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
But anything that is positive about wool, you need to
take it at the moment.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Couldn't agree more. I think when you look at the
sharing account, it'll probably be in the surplus, so that
when farmers start fleesh weighing Hogitwall again, we've made.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
It finally before we go we're management as well. You've
got a couple of thoughts around this I mean, we've
all heard about we're in burden's drench resistance and the likes,
but there's a lot of thinking.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Well, we're approaching another season a couple of months away,
will be right into it. Farmers are very good at
fetally accounting and getting the drench management right. But then
what is not so well done and more difficult to
do is looking at the effective lava on pasture because
that's where ninety five percent of the worms are on
the pasture. So you can have a very good drenching
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program every twenty one, twenty eight days, whatever it is,
but if the sheep, if the lambs are having an
intake or a higher intake of effective lava, they will
not reach their potential grid no matter how good your
drenching policy is. So critical issue is the laval intake
from the pasture, and to get some sort of handle
on the management of that, you need to know where
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the effect of lava are. So to be able to
do that is actually quite difficult because you've got to
look at your drenching program, your life cycle of the worms,
the climate, what grazing has been done by cattle. Are
you feeding crop that there's a whole lot of factors
that come in to determine how severe the effect of
lava is on a particular pasture. And it's not an
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easy thing to do, and that's the bit we need
to focus on.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
It's not that many months ago we were talking about
looking at your spring rotations for your young lambs and
the likes, and all of a sudden, here we are.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yep, it's Harley spring.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
So it's been. It's not brilliant pretty much. Hey, Graham,
always appreciate your time, mate, you yeah, you go and
wrap up this afternoon. Yep, absolutely, step for just do
Why Neil Diamond, that's not Neil Diamond, that's Graham Butcher.
It's a consulted up next away to closeper In station.
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Grant Disaster McMaster standing in the door by Nanny. I know, mister,
you gave it to my lave Grant McMaster farms on
the edge of the late walker tip of a close
fer In station and joins us. Thanks for the team
(11:30):
at Abbie Rural once again. Good afternoon, disaster.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Yeah, ay, good up, and everybody.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
How's the rain situation looking? Did I ask?
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Oh, it's just the same old, same old, And here
we've had another sixty three miles of rain since you
and I spoke last Tuesday. And yeah, so ground temperature
saw temages today sitting about five point four five point
five with the readings I did. And yeah, still snow
on the tops. They're not really all that hot. It's
(12:00):
got up to ten degrees now. But I just just
more of the same, really, Andy, more now on the tops.
And as I said last week before that, we had
all winter. And ironically, I think most I know Cornet
Peak and Coudrone Escape of clothes, but some of well
one of the kids were telling me the other day
that they've got a day's free skiing today last day
(12:21):
that just for children, And yeah, quite ironic. You know,
it's a bit like last year. All the sun came
at the end of season. So you know, same old,
same old, Andy. But I guess every day we're getting
closer to it, stopping to rain.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
You're hearing at some parts and more than south and
going towards four hundred miles for the month, which is absurd.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yeah it is. And and but you know, similar to
what happened last year. And I was just listening on
the radio yesterday and they were talking about you know,
the Hawk's Bay and first places needing rain and it's
certainly not the case down here, and it just it
just is exactly the same as what happened last year,
and we talked, we've talked about it, and you know,
you go back a few years at that wasn't the case.
(13:01):
You got to weave it a bit of cramp and
then it sort of got into it. So yeah, it's
just it seems to be the norm.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Now, disaster. You want to talk about the certain birds today,
which intriguingly enough, is actually what I'm talking about with
the team from Environment South and today.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
It's a matikan, yeah, or as I would say, it's
the Australasian bittern. Yes, And I don't know if people
are familiar with the bitter, but that's quite a coincidence
that you and I talk about it today, and.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
It was what I was wanting to talk about. So
about ten years ago, my fence and contract with one
Pedro Allison, who was well known around Wyndham. He was
fencing around the back and he gave me a call
that ninety fiftie. I saw the bird flying around today
and I said, well, Pedro's seen a few birds. He said, yeah,
but he said, I've seen nothing like this. So he
described this bird that just had big long wings along
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neck and its feet were dangling down. And I said, well,
was it a hearing? No, it wasn't here, And I
said a hawk, No, not a hawk saw I know
Perry Duck in the skies. No, So I said, I
don't know what heading sandwiches Pedro, but I would have
a clothes well. A couple of weeks later, I was
driving around the track and just driving parallel to the creek.
(14:16):
The next thing, this bird came out and I actually
actually got a bit of a rider. But what the hell?
And I automatically knew what Pedro was talking about. So
this bird was just gangling. It was almost it was
almost looked about prehistoric, and and I just what I
stopped and I just watched it, and it just it
looked as though it was struggling to fly and its
legs down. Then it dropped down and open to the swamp.
(14:39):
And when it stood there, I couldn't could hardly see it.
Just the was anything. So got home, got the old
bird brock out and not the one you're thinking of, Andy,
and had it block saw up that came up with
a bitter, and I said, god, I thought i'd discovered something,
you know, so it gave me old mannering at the time.
(14:59):
And then I started to describe this bird story. I said,
before I saw I had to be a bitter and
gave another made of mine a ring, and I saw
he wouldn't. He started to be a bitter, and I said, well,
am I the only person that's never seen a bitter?
And well, as I said, I've never seen one. Now
we have cut along story short that was sort of bitten,
and I've only seen it a few times since, and
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over that time I thought just not well, probably two
years ago the last time. Now, the birds of New
Zealand the Target region have been searching for the Ostelasian bitter.
And I was talking later, I know, I ran the up.
She's part of the survey and I said, well, actually,
I said that I've seen them at Blake told her
the story. So over the last three years, I've had
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these artistic reading devices recording devices of twenty eight of
them right around various wetlands and the Target and so
they've gathered all the start and they've they've record thousands
of to listen for it and it's got a it's
got a really distinctive booming core and it's the male
(16:05):
that does that during the breeding season, which is from
September through the December, and so so there, So the
birds of Otaga, they organized a couple of post postgraduate
students to possess the sound files from the last three
years and then they've got a preliminary graph out that's
showing where the where these visions are and it confirmed
(16:26):
and it just confirmed that these bisons are widely distributed
across a target. But you know, they're not sure if
it's just the breeding pairs or just males moving between
the wetlands calling out to themselves and the dark. So
it's it's it's quite it's quite fascinating the fact that
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they like the swampy areas, the bloody hard to see
when they drop down, they just don't know. It moves
and they on little little fish and edge in the
water and what have you. So they're saying that they
know they They described them as a cryptic, highly mobile
and sweatned, in the same family as herons and heglet
(17:09):
so cryptic and this instance meaning mysterious and you couldn't
describe Benners. So yeah, so they're about and they don't
know how many, but they're definitely on the endangered list.
So yeah, I just I thought i'd share that with
you today and you said if here that you're talking
about it later on with someone else.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, with Mike from Environment South and what they're calling
it the Maticki musters. Anybody that's fight the sees them
because they're rarey hard to get in touch with es.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Yeah, that's right, and so they've still got a bit
more to do. But but you know, the they they've
got a great year of where they've seen and they've
seen heard heard them in the in the many A Toto,
the Sinkleir Wetlands, down and down in the Catlands and
on Cornet Peep Station, the glen Orki Swamp and Laky
(17:59):
Patrick here and on Coastburn which is just part of
the of the Tago one. So yeah, quite a lot
going into it. But if you see them, and obviously
back in the day they were quite common. My father
said to me at the time, you know, there's to
be quite a few of them around Tianno, but I'd
never come across them. But when you do, you'll know
it because you think you're watching a bloody. It's an alphabet.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
The birds a great way to leave it, diss, A
great topic to tie in with the years later on.
I always appreciate your time.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Yeah, okay, Andy.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
To grab Master a close friend station, thanks of course
to Batman and the team at ab Rural. Leon Black
joins us next talking Thorvery Young Farmer's ninetieth celebration November
and December.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
The fat.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Welcome back to the Muster and the Young Farmer's segment.
This afternoon is something a bit different. We are catching
up with Leon Black. He's going to fill us in
on the Thornbury Young Farmer's ninetieth which is happening in November,
which is coming around quickly the first of October. To Marriy, Leon,
good afternoon. Firstly, you'll be looking forward to seeing September
(19:14):
in the mirror. I'd imagine absolutely.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
She's been a bit of a mind blower. Not often
you say this proudly, but I've seen over eight inches
Andy and that's more than enough.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
How different to last year? Would you say? The situation
is Lee? Of course you're about ten k's out of Riverton,
aren't you.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
Yeah, we had constant rain from sort of the autumn
right through last year in the ground conditions were palling
all the way. But we had a much better winter
dune July August. But the rainfall for September has actually
been more and we've had some pretty horrific winds and
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good lightning and thunderstorms as well. So a bit more
intense than September, but at least we started with get
a gre un conditions and the dairy guy's got the
caving done in final old fashion.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah, you're reminisced about July and August. It seems like
a lifetime ago now, like it does for the startup
of Thornbury Young Farmers, the ninetieth jubilee coming up in November.
Leon And when I do this cheat every week, it
was really cool and I appreciate meet he meets real
characters of young people coming up. But they've all got
a real dying diet in the Wolf fabric to make
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young farmers succeed.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Yeah, it's a great organization and it's fantastic training ground
for people going through to get some skills that stock judging, debating,
how to run a meeting. You know, it's been one
of the privileges of my life to be involved with
thunbur Young Farmers and Young Farmers and general, District, Regional
and national bill too. That it just it gives you
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a good heart that there's a future in a young
farmers guys and girls. So then the ninetieth Jubilee is
coming up the fifteenth November Indian and that's not just
for the Thumber Young Farmers, it's for Thornbury Country Girl
and we've got a special shout out to stablish Young Farmers.
Their club folded into us and Thombly actually helped start
them up back in the day. So any stablished members
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of older welcome to come along to the fifteenth November
and we've got a pretty full itinery.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Andy, Yeah, what's the go what's happening?
Speaker 6 (21:18):
I'd say to be a couple of bees to be head,
there could be we'll kick off for the challenge. It's
going to be set up by the Thornbury Farbergate and
held down at the Thornburrea Vintage Machinery and it's going
to be a challenge that the fiber Gates set up
for Nightcaps and Thornbread to play off, which is also
a long standing rivalry we've had, and then we'll be
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followed by afternoon TV and there cake cutting in Sofodos
and then we'll fall out of that part of the
thorn Bury. We're basically taken over the township for the
day and then head to the hall for dinner, speeches
and then a band and we'll see you on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Mate.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
What would you say the resurgence of young farmers? What
would you put it down to?
Speaker 6 (22:03):
I think it's good people and also there's there's some
really good connections made through the Young Farmers and the
various organizations that we've had a heap of businesses local
and national willing to help give us a hand, to
help with supper and laughing and tea and flights for Hugh,
so he's a guest speaker, Hugh Jackson. We've got a
(22:23):
couple of carpetbaggers in the club. We've had Young George
Dobson was remember, and he went up some as he
moved back home, and so did Hugh Jackson. So they're
both coming down and speaking and and yeah, just good
people that you know. Some of them are coming up
from town to Thornbury. And there's a lot of I
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guess trains you or people that come to an area
to work often on the dairy farmers or with the
eggry services business, and they still like the farming side
and they want to connect with a group of like
minded and they do. It's great.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Well, it's like in a sporting scenes. I suppose ly
on the word coke is beaded around a lot, but
that's exactly what this is. And like you just said,
if you're a young person going to a new area,
it's about going and just meeting up with like minded individuals,
even if you're not involved with the agricultural sector. I
suppose yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
And I mean it's some basis to the club too,
Like it's ninety years running and we've got families in
the area that have like the Michael Strings Smith Flex
Flex that are third and fourth generation going through the club.
So you've got a strong base, and then they seem
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to be very welcoming of the newbies coming in, you know,
the Georgia's and the Hues and the kids coming out
of town and the service and it makes for a
great network of people.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
So what would you say your fondest memories of young
farmers would have been radio friendly.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
The radio friendly ones. I mean we had absolutely stunning
car trolls. I guess my fondest memory has to be
going to Woodlands Young Farmers Dance and picking up my
wife and she was cheer of Woodlands and we managed
to stay together for almost thirty years at the moment,
So that's been probably a big achievement for young farmers.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I'd say it's a pretty good achievement.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Yeah, And she's managed to produce three or four young
Farmers Cadet say, out of that, so that's good. We
got we got one up in the car Mendel Young Farmers,
we've got one in the Courier l Young Farmers and
one locally so they're still pretty well connected. And the
other ones would be won the National Debating Trophy twice
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stop judging national levels several times. So yeah, just some
real highlights.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yeah, i'd agree with that. When I was involved with
Belfer back in the early nineties, very similar. I mean
we were talking about names off here before that are
some noomenous for young farmers over the years, and we've
seen a number of clubs they've turned up, they've disappeared.
Although Likeily likes a Balfer and Tiana Australia off the
calf they've got resurrected over the last few years and
they're going absolutely gang busters for numbers. So it still
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shows that the Federation with Young Farmers as such still
as a high relevance. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
Absolutely, and and I think probably you know, they connected
a different way now with social media, you know, so
like if people want to get tickets for this, they
can go on to the Thumbary Young Farmer's ninetieth Jibile
Facebook page in the link through the tickets, and if
they wish to not go on Facebook, they can call
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myself on two one eight five six or brook Fleet.
She's on the committee taking registrations. So those contacts are there,
and you know, but they do message a lot, they
do have their Facebook pages and and and they just
sort of get on their phones and suddenly they're at
somebody's place doing something. So it's it's quite a different
(25:57):
different third day Andy, where we made at the pub
the meeting and organized stuff. Nearly it's just on their phones.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
That's what I was going to ask you, how did
you have coke with social media bick in the eighties,
you reckon.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
Well, I remember when I run one of the meetings.
Been a life member, I get pulled in on my
wheelchair and get to run the agems and stuff. And
we sat down at the pub after meeting and they
all had their phones out and no one was talking
to each other and I said, enough of this and
look at each other a chair. But they are messaging.
The friends said that would been organized from the meeting
(26:30):
and what they had to do. So you know, it's
just a different, different culture. But yeah, I do struggle
with the with the the club's got a proud history,
ending and line we fall cell phones and you know
that sort of stuff. And when we were the only
club to have two back to back winners in two
thousand and three, fourth for the Michigan Fander with Robert
(26:50):
Keent thalling Croft, Yes we had. My father was actually
the precursor of that competition, winning the Nest Radio competition
long before it was a a tell voice thing or
it's not anymore obviously, young family. So so we've had
a lot of success as well before cell phones.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Certainly a lot to celebrate there, leons. So once again
thornby young farmers on social media, check it out or
get in touch with yourself directly as we able to
get a few more details.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Is that right?
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Absolutely, And if we want to get the numbers in,
we've got a limited whole capacity and we don't want
to see turn people away, so we definitely want to
get those restrations. And so we know we're at we
need to make alternative plans.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
And good on your lamb. Thanks for your time on
the muster.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
Thanks any.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Like Leon Black, Alumnia thornbreat Young Farmers their ninetieth happening
in November. As Leon says, get in touch to social
media channels, we get in touch to wreck because these
things need to celebrate right before the end of the year.
Warren Ross from my move Move but up next Environment
Southland Mike Hargraves.
Speaker 7 (28:02):
I've been again because.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Next on the Muster we're catching up with Mike Hargraves.
Here's Biodiversity Officer and Environment south and of course the
segment is sponsored by Environment Southland. Mike. Welcome to the
muster once again. House sakes Andy, very good, thank you.
How are you the Martuku muster? What's this about regarding
rural Southland.
Speaker 8 (28:28):
Yes, so we'll take it from the top. We had
to talk about Martuku muster, which is of course the
Australasian bitten or the Martuku hood epo, hence the name
Martuku muster. Now there's a very large and very secretive
bird that live in wetlands across our Heroa. If you're
not familiar, they can grow up to about half a
meter tall. They are big, beautiful, mottled golden brown color
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with a very thick neck. Listeners might be familiar with
their ability to absolutely blend into their vegetation. They have
a habit of standing very still with their neck pointing
straight up and they just disappear. These guys are the
champions of camouflage. They are an incredible bird, but unfortunately
they face a range of challenges. So because they are
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so secretive and move around so much, this makes them
very tricky to count. The estimates of their population range
a lot, but it's thought that there are less than
one thousand individual birds, so they are in vic triple.
That's where the martok who must have comes in. It's
a citizen science project aiming to get people all around
the country to do a survey of these birds at
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the same time to avoid double counting. In spring, the
males make a very low frequency booming sound to attract mates,
and this is what is counted during this Nartooku muster.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
So they're a very distinctive bird.
Speaker 8 (29:50):
They are very distinctive. Yes, they're not really like anything else.
If you are fortunate enough to see one, you'll definitely
know this is not an ordinary bird. Like I say,
very big, very thick neck, quite quite distinctive.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
So like some farmers and landowners if they see sightings
of them are tookoo. What are they to do?
Speaker 8 (30:10):
If you are fortunate enough to see one, I would
encourage that you can report these sightings to the website
called Eye Naturalist. This is a very good place to
report these charts encounters. If you happen across one down
the back of the paddock, you know, down the creek,
try and get a photo if you can do so
without disturbing the bird, would be awesome, and upload this
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to I Naturalists. I would say that it's being aware
that these birds might be using habitat on your property
as the first big step. They could pop up anytime,
and they do pop up anytime anywhere, so just being
aware they could be out there. If people want to
get involved, I would encourage them to get involved with
events like the Martuku Muster. The survey involves spending time
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after sunset, around the full moon and spring, so you know,
around this time of year obviously, and to listen to
that booming I mentioned before. All the starter is collated
across the nation and the sites compared to try and
do a good survey. The October dates are this weekend
with the full moon next week, which of course the
school hotly is still happening, so it's a great opportunity
(31:15):
to get out with the family, spend some time in
the evening and see if you're lucky enough to hear
a booming bitten.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
So why south in such a key region.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
We're very fortunate down here in Southland because we have
some relatively large and intact areas of bitten habitat remaining,
as well as some smaller and equally useful areas of
wetland throughout Southland. For this reason, it's it'd be great
if we can get out and survey as much as
this habitat across the region as possible to really get
a handle on how many of these birds might still
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be out there. Bittin are a highly mobile species. They
can travel long distances a lot further than researchers first thought,
and they do this as they're looking across the region
for the suitable habitat. And therefore, because they travel around
so much, they can and do appear in areas all
across the region, even if it is a long way
from another area of wetland.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
So supported resources that environments south and offers land owners
regarding them a Turkey habitat.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
What is there We're really keen to hear from any
landowners or groups who are keen to work to support
their bit in population across Southlands. These guys, they have
quite specific habitat criteria. They like large areas of vegetation,
you know, your rushes, your reeds, flaxes. They require quite
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shallow water for hunting, between fifteen to twenty centimeters. It
needs to be quality water that's clear so they can
see through it, and obviously needs a good source of
food as well. Their favorite food fish eels, but they
will also go for frogs and vertebrates and even crustaceans,
so they can offer advice on that. We also have
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some funding opportunities to help land owners to you maybe
enhance or develop areas of wetland on their property that
may be suitable habitat for them, and we encourage any
listeners to get in touch with us at the Environment
south and to talk through his options as well as
just giving advice. If listeners take one thing away today,
I would encourage people to go on the love Bitten
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website to learn more about better themselves as well as
the Martoku muster and hopefully learn something from all the
great resources on the Love bitteron website.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Good on you, Mike, appreciate your time this afternoon.
Speaker 8 (33:28):
Thanks very much.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Andycome Mike Hargraves of Environment Southland. This is the master
Before we wrap up, we're a right away murmur catching
out Laby and ross the musters on the farm.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Brought to you by Southland District Council working together for
a better Southland.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
The song is called September by earth, wind and fire,
kind of ironic for the season we're experiencing down here
in the South. This is the muster with Andy Muller.
We're right away Moomy next to catch up with Warren
Ross our way. Moo Moo corresponded, he's a deer farmer
and as well as our fishing guru and one of
our rallying experts here on the muster, good afternoon, while yeah, endlessness,
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how's everything going up there? Not getting blown off the
face of the earth or anything silly?
Speaker 7 (34:25):
Well, it's getting close to blogging blown away here. There's
been a fever of wind in the last probably two
or three weeks. Should that really normally get these strong
ones until till Ontober? Who I suppose we are October
this week and this coming week, but yeah, no, it's
definitely we had earlier.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, we get into October tomorrow, which a lot of
people will be looking forward to. They just want to
say goodbye to September. How have you feed up there? Though?
Likes of it's been wet around the province, hearing some
ridiculous rainfall for September. Yet again, how have you fared?
Would you say?
Speaker 7 (34:58):
Well, probably we're probably feed probably okay to most people
around us, the Riverton Way, mos bron Way, probably even
what Cake Teppingoy Way.
Speaker 9 (35:08):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (35:09):
Look, last Thursday Friday was just dark airs, black hairs
up towards what Ca Care that way and they got
a lot of heavy rain. I would have thought, whereas
the sun was out here at the farm all.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Day so what have you been up too lately? You
don't have to do a lemming beat, or if you did,
it was over and done with about six months ago.
By the sounds of it, your lands are just about
rudy for the works.
Speaker 7 (35:30):
I'd say, yeah, no, we've got ye, let me beat.
Heappened back in June or maybe July, so it was
uh and there's fourteen lambs out of them, so yeah,
they're probably be ready to be tailed, probably too big
to be seed. But that's they're going good. Now that's
the extent of a lemming. But we do do a carving,
beef carving, so trick along.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
All right, how many beefees have you got the cave?
Speaker 7 (35:55):
We got seventy odd beef cows and about ninety odd
to heapers wall carving. He's probably running one hundred and
fifty odds.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I guess what break? Do you run?
Speaker 7 (36:06):
A mixture of hereford, straight here for and or straight angus?
And yeah, we've got to put a black ball across
them all this year, so we get a mixture of
you get the odd read one most of more black
whiteface things. So yeah, know they're good, good animals.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
I dare say they'll be looking not too badly or
things considered heading into spring proper. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:25):
Absolutely, yeah, So yeah, that all the heapers master heapers
get killed in February March once we win them, and
they still go through is his heapers on killing seats.
So we paid pretty good money for them.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
It's really good money for Kettle at the moment, it's
almost the best that's ever been. Did they shape?
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (36:43):
Absolutely. You know, I think the last lot of animals
we killed were eight dollars fifty, but I think it's
gone up since then as well, So I know it's
the beef and lamb are actually tricking along pretty good.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
As far as the venison schedule, because you're a deer
farmer out there as well. I remember David Stevens a
few months back saying ten dollars was the price you're
aiming for being a venison farmer, but lately you're saying
it's gone above that.
Speaker 7 (37:06):
Yeah. No, absolutely, So we signed contracts back in May
or do not think it was, And that's for like
a teen dollars thirty or forty minimum payout contract pay
Now it's up to eleven twenty I think is what
we've got for the last seat last week, So no,
it's anytime. This is probably where it needs to be,
to be honest, So now it's tricking long.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
We're right.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
What would your break even point be with deer.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
Probably probably the venice and it would have to be done.
I'd say, probably know one eighteen dollars or something, I
guess just with all a cossack better incurred these days,
of course, sir, so i'd say to be nine eighteen dollars.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
I would have thought, of course, if you're a deer farmer,
this is almost like your quiet time of year.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
Absolutely, yep, No, this is definitely September and October are
acquius tim or we're still fedting, bailing, still feeding probably
team that was a baillaty other day, to horns that
are on crop in a food beef cattle, staggs and
winers are on grass. The stags obviously grow velvet now
and we're we're actually trying to separate get some winners
(38:09):
into the sheet, to separate steak forwards and hind forms.
But in the wind. Yeah, bit of a challenge, so
we you haven't been doing that lately.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
How many animals would you have on that schedule for
the deer.
Speaker 7 (38:19):
If you've got a lock down a contract, when the
contract goes right through to Christmas time, I mean as
soon as we get to mid October, end of October,
the price starts dropping a wee bit, but as good.
I think it's still ten dollars sixty or eighty right
through to crystals time anyhow, wh which would be good.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
There's still pretty good, pretty damn good coin for Venus
and compared to where it's been.
Speaker 7 (38:41):
Though, absolutely as we've had some we have had some
very tough years over over the last few years, but
we probably the last teen fifteen years have been some
really hard years. But so I know we're we're sort
of tricking on the right.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
So you're feeding a little bit of Baylor jet. Is
that just on the remnants of the crop?
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Ah?
Speaker 7 (38:57):
Yep, great, absolutely, so the crop is pretty much done
anyhow However, we were a grub prepared yesterday and there's
still the old bit of beat coming up. So the
older hold he install you get a little little month
today today anyhow.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
So yeah, well it's like a big wooly beard you
get a second fee a sup.
Speaker 7 (39:14):
Well, that's right, you know, but I do come off
sort of towards I know another week will come off
and put a little bit of grass. I'm just happy
to get all your boosts before Chet's talking the end
of the month, for the end of October.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Well, we know you're a big fan of motorsport. Roger
Lead was on the Muster last Thursday to give a
bit of a run down or suppose of what the
East and South and rallying scene was like. And it
was really interesting Yan as well, because it's a sport
you know, exists without knowing a whole lot about it,
you know absolutely.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
I sort of haven't really known too much about it all,
to be honest, but it's just been this last well
the last six or eight months really that I've really
started to get into. I guess so's it's it's interesting
to know and I need to learn more about it
in the way of all the different classes and what's
to carry on?
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Are you keen to be your driver?
Speaker 7 (40:02):
No, I haven't had an opportunity to sit beside the
CADI a month ago, I say, but I chose not
to because I thought I'm what yet hooked on it,
so I stay even stay out of the passage of
seat from.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Well, you didn't even know. If you don't find out
what's the old sale, you can't saying you can't be
given out if you don't appeal.
Speaker 7 (40:18):
Well, that is true.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
That is great days.
Speaker 7 (40:21):
I wonder one day I'll get I'll have a seat
sup side them and see how it goes.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
As far as as as far as the fishing side
of things be pretty limited lately. Although you had to
go white baiting. Were they running?
Speaker 7 (40:32):
We had a white banden on Sunday, but I think
it was like got born than it. No that it
wasn't so good. You got four four there's not enough
to make a petty, so we threw them back. So
Dead when Dead was down there on Thursday for the
first time and they got about two hundred and twenty
old grams or something. So it's just a we feed,
(40:54):
but the first time out doing it.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
So yeah, you're very much hearing mixed Telly's about what's
happening at the over made. The river water has been
pretty high too by all accounts.
Speaker 7 (41:03):
Yeah, it's been pretty high about apparently it's still run
with ministering water. So from what I can get that,
there's been a few stands down on the tower. They've
been going all right, So yeah, as I say, you're
just gonna be abad to doing it.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Absolutely you do. Well, Hey, we'll leave it there. Always
appreciate your time. You stay warm in that wind this afternoon.
Speaker 7 (41:21):
Yep, no goods, gold Andy gratulated.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
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(42:00):
you've been listening to the muster and hock and now
each is to Peters and Nix. Enjoy the afternoon, keep
going catch up tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (42:14):
Hey, well all right, sir, he we'll go there.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
And what did it go on again? For PGG writes
and present stock selling action that happened at the Louisville
Sale Yards this morning, so we got Andrew Marson on
the line give us a rundown on prices. Good afternoon, mate,
how do we go?
Speaker 9 (42:29):
Yeah, things are pretty steady again. We continue to get good,
solid yardings of prime lambs for this time of year.
I think we had three to four race falls of
those again today. Prices are fully firm on previous weeks.
Heimd for the using lambs starting to appear as we
get to that time of year also and just starting
(42:52):
to s we increase in wet dry starting to drift
in as well. But we'll go through those prices for you.
The best of the old seasons lams two eighty three
to three thirty seconds at two twenty through to two sixty.
Third cut of prime lambs at one sixty through to
one ninety five. Best of the US one hundred and
eighty three to two hundred and thirty dollars one forty
(43:13):
to one seventy for the second cut prime use, and
one ten through to one thirty five for the third
cut with a very light condition used in the sixty
to one hundred dollar bracket. Best of the rams at
eighty dollars second cut sixty five to seventy, with lighter
rams in the forty to sixty dollars bracket store lambs.
Quality store lambs continue to sell well, one fifty through
(43:35):
to one sixty five for the best, one twenty to
one forty for the second, and one hundred through to
one hundred and fifteen for the third cut. As mentioned,
probably probably ten or twelve pens are using lambs in
there today and they range from one hundred and twenty
through to one hundred and forty dollars will counted. We
are starting to see just a number of teeth starting
(43:56):
to cut and pop on those on those winter lamb,
So if you are sitting on a few of those,
just just be mindful of those teeth coming through. Into
the prime cattle market we go the best of the
prime stairs, and heifers for one hundred and eighty kilos
are better, ranging from four dollars forty to four dollars
fifty per kilo. Cattle in the four twenty to four
(44:19):
to sixty range were four dollars thirty per kilo, and
cows four fifty k's and better at two dollars seventy.
Just a small yarding of prime cattle selling with goods
firm demand stores. The store cattle two year semi cross
stairs at four hundred and fifteen kilos made two thousand
and seventy five dollars. Heifers two heipers at three seventy
(44:41):
five kilos made eighteen hundred dollars into that yelling market.
We go some charlet cross stairs at two hundred and
eighty kilos. We're thirteen fifty Hereford cross heppers at two
thirty kilos at one thousand and thirty five and balls
at one hundred and eighty. Hereford cross bulls at one
hundred and eighty kilos made eight hundred for sixty dollars.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
More. Store cattle.
Speaker 9 (45:06):
In the main race was reasonably full, and two year
old cattle continue to be in very very hot demand.
We're still getting a few Bobby calves in the best
of the heir for cross balls at one hundred and
fifty dollars, the best of the heifers around fifty dollars
in freezing balls at fifty dollars. The limited demand starting
to come through on the calves as we get towards
(45:28):
the end of that carving season. So just be mindful
from a selling point of view that that carve market
is just starting to reduce. Just a heads up around
bull sales. We do have a date change for the
taffy sale which will set down for tomorrow the first
of October. It has been shifted to Thursday, the second
(45:51):
of October at eleven am and that is a call
to road at Cowana. So just anyone was thinking of
attending that at date change when the first to Thursday
the second our October or spring ball sales are in
full swing at the moment, they are pretty much starting
(46:11):
from now running right the way through to about Labor
weekend and a full incomprehensive list of those will be
either advertised through the newspaper system or on the PGG
Rights Facebook page. Just also to the listeners. New ASDs
are now in force as of the first of October,
(46:36):
and so just be mindful that be mindful that those
new books are in forced. And if you are thinking
of sending stock anywhere really but in particular into the saliads.
If we could have the new current ASTs.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
And that about brats us up
Speaker 9 (46:53):
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