October 8, 2025 • 8 mins
Geordie Eade isn't convinced that the Alliance proposal with Dawn Meats will work out in the long run.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Right right, jordyyid farms over at Riverton. It is the
river era of the South, and we catch up once again. Jordy,
good afternoon. How's the river year a looking today? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, and a year eighteen degrees? Can't complain. I think
sawtems was probably about twelve. I think if you set
you'd probably see the grass growing. Well.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
The sole temperature for Riverton yesterday was ten point five, which,
in the scheme of things was pretty darn good.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, it was probably about that a month ago, though.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Weren't we just going around in circles?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
You reckon at the moment we just need to try
and find that exit that brings a big yellow out
for ten days or.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Say yeah and get rid of the sideways rain. It's
just sort of driven me nuts, really, you know, we
had two eight eight mills for September. We had about
seventy mills either side of the August and Guinea of
October so veno four hundred miles forty days. Yeah, the
forty days, forty nights. It's nelllyon arct, nearly an arc
(01:05):
being built.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
See it sounds like it.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
No you level all the animals lining up a note time,
but I think it's fair to say your rainfall is
pretty much where it needs to be, probably over it
for the time of year.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, yeah, no it is. But the saying that it
has been better than last year probably because we had
a drier starts and I think probably had more grass
covers the user and a nick so you know, lamb
death Telly's down well over one hundred sort abo one
hundred and fifty leabs less, So that's the positive side,
I suppose, And we didn't have a lot of mothering
app The hogits are lambing now and they've took along
(01:36):
pretty well. I've fed them pretty well through the year,
so that took along pretty well. We just down to
the last sort of sixty of them.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Have you tailed yet, No, We.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Sort of tail probably about the end around Labor weekendish
and we drenched them, give them that first drench on numbs,
and then we sort of finish off the rest of
them ourselves, so it sort of ties in pretty good.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
So you feel you'll be looking pretty tight, is it?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Not bad, because we're a wee bit understocked with the
cows coming on and the grass, so yeah, it's I
don't know how i'd done it. When I was fully
stopped because I'm moving everything a to be here, to
see to d just to try and keep plenty of
feed because it's a pretty critical part time right now
with that milk and off mum into those lambs. And
I mean, it was certainly something we couldn't do last
year and it's sure enough and we come to winning.
(02:18):
Those lambs weren't there because the October events so crap.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
So the Alliance greet Road shows, Jordy, We'll touch on
this because it's pretty relevant with the big vote happening
on October the twentieth and in Voicago. Regarding the reset
and recapitalization of the cooperative. It's almost like the Dragon's den.
But the meat industry addition, Yeah, it is, it is.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
It is, And I you know, the frustrating about for them,
in my personal opinion, is it't it's not addressing anything
that's wrong with the industry, you know, it's it's just
like a band aid and keep on back to work
on Monday. We just hope that this will see what
the problem is, but it.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Doesn't interesting speaking to a lot of farmers though, to
be honest, especially at the meeting. Then good last week Jordie,
and they're resigned to the fact that whether they wanted
this to occur or not, they needed to support it
because the elt the other side of the coin wasn't
worth contemplating, yeah, or.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
The other side of the corn. We don't really know
what the other side of the corn was. A's the trouble.
You know, we're sort of being a lead to believe
that this is the one and only option. But from
what I have understand is the Lions have been in
the worst equity position in the earlier years. And you know,
the sentiment in my area here is where we were
probably ten years ago. Most of us were platinum suppliers Alliance.
(03:32):
A lot of them have moved supply in the last
five years, but we still all have a lot of
equity in the company. So not not that we don't
supply them, we still have a lot of equity, and
so we're concerned. And I would have seen the area
or here a lot of people were against it. But
you know, I have obviously even moved far in the
last month or six weeks to know the truth and
what's happening around the rest of the problems.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
So the majority of the people around your neck of
the woods. They're against us going through and they're going
to vote accordingly.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yes, yes, from what I understand, I mean my group
chats and whatnot. I mean, it's just it just does.
It's not dealing with the absolute problems of the industry,
you know, Like I mean, in my opinion, I would
love to those two big meat companies to get in
the room and do some rationalization and come to an agreement.
And you know, we supply a milk to Fonterra. Now
(04:19):
they are you know, all over the countryside, and I mean,
you know, they they burn some bridges. But you know
that big cooperative seems to work, and it's worked really well,
as I've proved it.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Well.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
You look at Fronterra, you look at Open Country as well,
two business models that are going great guns. And they
talked about it back in twenty fifteen. I think it
was about a super amalgamation between Alliance and silverfare and
Farms at the time before Shanghai mailing got involves involved
a Silverfaar and farms.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Have we missed the boat on that though?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Are we too far down the track to get the
brains into the room and to clash out an idea.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, we could. Well, I would like to hope that
we're not. But I would think we're probably at a
point now that there's really not going to be much
more of a diminishing and lamb meat the volume, and
surely we can there'll be still some brains there. And
I mean, you know, money, money plays a big difference,
you know, if we're getting you know, not, I'd like
to love nine dollars plus, maybe there's ten dollars plus
(05:16):
for kilo for land meat. You know that that's that's great,
And I mean that starts talking a few other ideas
in the room. Then surely would it be.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
A different situation if the land price is down around
say six dollars fifty seven dollars a kilo a lot
we've experienced not that long ago.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yes, it would be Yeah. Yet, no, definitely, And I
mean I don't think we need to be in that
territory again. And I mean, you know, the industry knows that.
But if it comes back to there, you know, I
think probably to a certain extent, that's why those forestry
conversions have really taken off. And I mean, and you know,
there's a bit of hope and wall you know, get
all this hope, but you know what's around the corner.
Are we going to have to give anesthetic to our
(05:53):
lambs at tailing? And I mean, in my opinion on
our personal farm, the only reason I tal is because
of wool, So that could be the real good night
nurse for the ball that if we go to have
to go down that path a.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Different tast It's mental health Awareness week, Jordie. Let you
say we're getting through the bum's rush off September slash
October gradually. What do you do as far as a reset?
Do you like go for a run or anything like that.
You're pretty fit in your rugby days. Do you still
take a ball out and have a cack or what
do you do when you pass that the loan's not coping?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, I'd love. I bought a new bike at this
time last year, have great intentions again and use it.
And I mean I still haven't allocated at the time.
But it's funny enough. The last two weeks my wife's
got in the jigsaw puzzles, So at night doing jigsaw.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Puzzles, these real back to front ones where you don't
actually know what you're doing and they actually you know
they actually has taken not only your mind off what
you're doing, but also stop you're looking at your phone.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
One thing about jigsaw puzzles and this is just me.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I can't understand why you just rip everything apart, having
to put it together again for no apparent reason.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Ye'd cat wholly around the lounge and he's wrecked it
twice the last time I've been doing so. Yeah, that
sort of ruins the you know, the world to what
about it? Put all back together again?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
They just finally been. The boss was talking to me
from Wakland the other day. He was asking me about Riverton.
He goes, what's Riverton like? He's thirty seconds sal rivetson
to be in the bus in Auckland.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Being born and bred in Riverton, that I would have
to be positive, is it? Most of the time it's
a great place to be sitting there, And I mean
on a good day in the summer, I home Reckon.
There's probably an area in south And that beats it.
It's just you got to put up with that south
West occasionally. But you know everything, Ribon's got the thing
going for it. I grew up there. A lot of
people migrated away from there for the end of the nineties.
(07:46):
But hell that over the summer. Now it's just back.
And you know, as soon as if we get at
the la and a bit of heat, I can't promote
it anymore.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Well, there you go.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
And it's called the River of the South for a
particular reason, Jordy, he had always apreciate.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Your time on the muster.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
All right, good it is and cold, Jordy Red from.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
The River era of the South, That is ribdson Jas's
Erica South con Federal South, Confederated farmers.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Get that out right. He's up next. You're listening to
the muster.
Right right, jordyyid farms over at Riverton. It is the
river era of the South, and we catch up once again. Jordy,
good afternoon. How's the river year a looking today? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, and a year eighteen degrees? Can't complain. I think
sawtems was probably about twelve. I think if you set
you'd probably see the grass growing. Well.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
The sole temperature for Riverton yesterday was ten point five, which,
in the scheme of things was pretty darn good.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, it was probably about that a month ago, though.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Weren't we just going around in circles?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
You reckon at the moment we just need to try
and find that exit that brings a big yellow out
for ten days or.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Say yeah and get rid of the sideways rain. It's
just sort of driven me nuts, really, you know, we
had two eight eight mills for September. We had about
seventy mills either side of the August and Guinea of
October so veno four hundred miles forty days. Yeah, the
forty days, forty nights. It's nelllyon arct, nearly an arc
(01:05):
being built.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
See it sounds like it.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
No you level all the animals lining up a note time,
but I think it's fair to say your rainfall is
pretty much where it needs to be, probably over it
for the time of year.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, yeah, no it is. But the saying that it
has been better than last year probably because we had
a drier starts and I think probably had more grass
covers the user and a nick so you know, lamb
death Telly's down well over one hundred sort abo one
hundred and fifty leabs less, So that's the positive side,
I suppose, And we didn't have a lot of mothering
app The hogits are lambing now and they've took along
(01:36):
pretty well. I've fed them pretty well through the year,
so that took along pretty well. We just down to
the last sort of sixty of them.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Have you tailed yet, No, We.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Sort of tail probably about the end around Labor weekendish
and we drenched them, give them that first drench on numbs,
and then we sort of finish off the rest of
them ourselves, so it sort of ties in pretty good.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
So you feel you'll be looking pretty tight, is it?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Not bad, because we're a wee bit understocked with the
cows coming on and the grass, so yeah, it's I
don't know how i'd done it. When I was fully
stopped because I'm moving everything a to be here, to
see to d just to try and keep plenty of
feed because it's a pretty critical part time right now
with that milk and off mum into those lambs. And
I mean, it was certainly something we couldn't do last
year and it's sure enough and we come to winning.
(02:18):
Those lambs weren't there because the October events so crap.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
So the Alliance greet Road shows, Jordy, We'll touch on
this because it's pretty relevant with the big vote happening
on October the twentieth and in Voicago. Regarding the reset
and recapitalization of the cooperative. It's almost like the Dragon's den.
But the meat industry addition, Yeah, it is, it is.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
It is, And I you know, the frustrating about for them,
in my personal opinion, is it't it's not addressing anything
that's wrong with the industry, you know, it's it's just
like a band aid and keep on back to work
on Monday. We just hope that this will see what
the problem is, but it.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Doesn't interesting speaking to a lot of farmers though, to
be honest, especially at the meeting. Then good last week Jordie,
and they're resigned to the fact that whether they wanted
this to occur or not, they needed to support it
because the elt the other side of the coin wasn't
worth contemplating, yeah, or.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
The other side of the corn. We don't really know
what the other side of the corn was. A's the trouble.
You know, we're sort of being a lead to believe
that this is the one and only option. But from
what I have understand is the Lions have been in
the worst equity position in the earlier years. And you know,
the sentiment in my area here is where we were
probably ten years ago. Most of us were platinum suppliers Alliance.
(03:32):
A lot of them have moved supply in the last
five years, but we still all have a lot of
equity in the company. So not not that we don't
supply them, we still have a lot of equity, and
so we're concerned. And I would have seen the area
or here a lot of people were against it. But
you know, I have obviously even moved far in the
last month or six weeks to know the truth and
what's happening around the rest of the problems.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
So the majority of the people around your neck of
the woods. They're against us going through and they're going
to vote accordingly.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yes, yes, from what I understand, I mean my group
chats and whatnot. I mean, it's just it just does.
It's not dealing with the absolute problems of the industry,
you know, Like I mean, in my opinion, I would
love to those two big meat companies to get in
the room and do some rationalization and come to an agreement.
And you know, we supply a milk to Fonterra. Now
(04:19):
they are you know, all over the countryside, and I mean,
you know, they they burn some bridges. But you know
that big cooperative seems to work, and it's worked really well,
as I've proved it.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Well.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
You look at Fronterra, you look at Open Country as well,
two business models that are going great guns. And they
talked about it back in twenty fifteen. I think it
was about a super amalgamation between Alliance and silverfare and
Farms at the time before Shanghai mailing got involves involved
a Silverfaar and farms.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Have we missed the boat on that though?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Are we too far down the track to get the
brains into the room and to clash out an idea.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, we could. Well, I would like to hope that
we're not. But I would think we're probably at a
point now that there's really not going to be much
more of a diminishing and lamb meat the volume, and
surely we can there'll be still some brains there. And
I mean, you know, money, money plays a big difference,
you know, if we're getting you know, not, I'd like
to love nine dollars plus, maybe there's ten dollars plus
(05:16):
for kilo for land meat. You know that that's that's great,
And I mean that starts talking a few other ideas
in the room. Then surely would it be.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
A different situation if the land price is down around
say six dollars fifty seven dollars a kilo a lot
we've experienced not that long ago.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yes, it would be Yeah. Yet, no, definitely, And I
mean I don't think we need to be in that
territory again. And I mean, you know, the industry knows that.
But if it comes back to there, you know, I
think probably to a certain extent, that's why those forestry
conversions have really taken off. And I mean, and you know,
there's a bit of hope and wall you know, get
all this hope, but you know what's around the corner.
Are we going to have to give anesthetic to our
(05:53):
lambs at tailing? And I mean, in my opinion on
our personal farm, the only reason I tal is because
of wool, So that could be the real good night
nurse for the ball that if we go to have
to go down that path a.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Different tast It's mental health Awareness week, Jordie. Let you
say we're getting through the bum's rush off September slash
October gradually. What do you do as far as a reset?
Do you like go for a run or anything like that.
You're pretty fit in your rugby days. Do you still
take a ball out and have a cack or what
do you do when you pass that the loan's not coping?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, I'd love. I bought a new bike at this
time last year, have great intentions again and use it.
And I mean I still haven't allocated at the time.
But it's funny enough. The last two weeks my wife's
got in the jigsaw puzzles, So at night doing jigsaw.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Puzzles, these real back to front ones where you don't
actually know what you're doing and they actually you know
they actually has taken not only your mind off what
you're doing, but also stop you're looking at your phone.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
One thing about jigsaw puzzles and this is just me.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I can't understand why you just rip everything apart, having
to put it together again for no apparent reason.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Ye'd cat wholly around the lounge and he's wrecked it
twice the last time I've been doing so. Yeah, that
sort of ruins the you know, the world to what
about it? Put all back together again?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
They just finally been. The boss was talking to me
from Wakland the other day. He was asking me about Riverton.
He goes, what's Riverton like? He's thirty seconds sal rivetson
to be in the bus in Auckland.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Being born and bred in Riverton, that I would have
to be positive, is it? Most of the time it's
a great place to be sitting there, And I mean
on a good day in the summer, I home Reckon.
There's probably an area in south And that beats it.
It's just you got to put up with that south
West occasionally. But you know everything, Ribon's got the thing
going for it. I grew up there. A lot of
people migrated away from there for the end of the nineties.
(07:46):
But hell that over the summer. Now it's just back.
And you know, as soon as if we get at
the la and a bit of heat, I can't promote
it anymore.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Well, there you go.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
And it's called the River of the South for a
particular reason, Jordy, he had always apreciate.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Your time on the muster.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
All right, good it is and cold, Jordy Red from.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
The River era of the South, That is ribdson Jas's
Erica South con Federal South, Confederated farmers.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Get that out right. He's up next. You're listening to
the muster.
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