September 1, 2025 • 9 mins
Disaster looks at issues around freedom camping and by-laws.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
It is in this time.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
We got supporters from miles around. We got we got
the heart, we got the through, We're raised on.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
It's just burn.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Thanks to Abby Rural. We go up to Lake Rocket
Tipping and catch up with great Disaster McMaster who farms
at close Barn Station Disaster. Good afternoon. I'm playing this
song at least once a day for the remainder of
the week. While actually while the Stags got the shield,
the Roaring Pin by the sweet Eaters hell of an
occasion in Hamilton on Sunday evening.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Oh, good afternoon, Andy, good after everybody. Yet, it was
a really proud moment for South and the game and
we're done that team. It was just magnificent and hearing
all the excuses about this and that, but you know
that was the squad of guy that went up there
and they put their bodies on the line, and by god,
they didn't leave anything up there, and they made us
all to gain.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, just talking to a few people saying, these all
backs coming into the way shadow squad. More than anything,
we're probably more of a disruption based on how the
team went the week before against the Natti.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yeah, I reckon if we might be better to put
some of the Stags players into the Bloody Allbacks team
because it could be quite a good result.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
At Closper Instation. It's wet, yeah, it is wet.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
It's it's the sun shining now. It's about eight degrees
soil temperatures three point five, so that's enough to give
a few more gray hairs. But no, it's just that
time there we've had. We've had sort of rain twenty meals,
ten meals, five meals, and small snow went around last
night round the tops and up the back of Closeburn
(01:42):
as well. So it's it's just been cold enough and
not really not ideal for the feed utilization that I
was talking about and with confidence just after we surely
use But it's yeah, no, it's just so good. But
then again, compared to last year, it's a lot better
because it will just continual rain week after week, wasn't it.
(02:05):
So at least we're getting a bit of a break.
And as I've said before the show that it doesn't
take long for it for the ground to dry out here.
So I didn't feed. Yes, I did feed Balley yesterday
and just started raining when I did that, but I
didn't feed any this morning, so it was just a
bit damp and greasy, but you know they picking up
(02:28):
most of the Baylor's just good quality baylors. But yeah,
they'ld padd It's a bit dirty looking and the glass
is pretty low, but I think thursdays it's not so
God it meant to pick up a little bit after that,
so but really nice to have these we get in
the breaks with a bit of sun when we do.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Tell you what, Bran, you talked the list last week
tag in cheek about we need to organize a tour
of the Chadham Islands. We've actually got a bit of
feedback courtesy of Batman at RB Rural saying people were
coming in to his work the next afternoon asking how
they can get involved with this to it. Have we
started something here?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I hope we have because it was sort of tongue
in cheek, but you know, I'd really like to go there.
If we could take a group there and have a
look at the farming side of it would be irish.
It would be good for both people. They'd be good
for the Chatham Islanders. I'd imagine it'd be quite good
for us. So yeah, we might have to look in
a bit a bit more endy.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, and also shout out to Ginny sent me a
text the other day regarding the Gregory Hunts. So I
talked about going to school with the monomrou greg and
Karen's children from pitt Islands were from over that way.
Karen nee Heath was read in Wyndham read her dad
was Henry Heath who had a friend shop, Small World.
It was from Ginny. Thanks for the feedback. So zunder
(03:40):
is sing when you talk about these things and these
little musings, how they get a bit of engagement as
well about people reminiscing.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yeah, absolutely, And you look at you know when you
read those articles as these names come up, and yeah,
it's the old thing, these zelands of small places and
that you know somebody you know somewhere. I went to
school with the Scofields and they spent time on the
chatterm Wellington. I think that's probably why I first probably
got to hear of it.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
To be fair, freedom camping is a big issue up
there in central Otago, especially around Queenstown. But you're talking
about permits and the likes you've got to do consents for,
is that right? Well?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah, so a couple of years ago, and I mean
there's a difference between freedom camping and free camping, and
I think most of these people are trying to go
free camping, and so particularly where we live, Moat Lake
and is a pretty popular area now. A couple of
years ago the k l DC, the Queenstown Lake Sister
(04:34):
Council put a van on freedom camping basically from Queenstown
up to Minukee. You know, dangers road, nowhere to go,
no toilet or something like that. The Motea Home Association association,
they went to court and they disputed that and said
it couldn't be done and by the leader of the Lord,
legislation needs to change. So as a result they won
(04:59):
the case and the people are people are camping again.
Now the council have of the in the process of
drafting a new a new freedom camping floor. So as
a result of that, I got a core from my neighbors.
A couple of weeks ago. He said the missions closed,
(05:21):
and he rang on the Friday lunchtime. He said submissions
closed in four years time. He said, cratchy to get
one that effects us. So I put a submission into
the q l DC and just said that you know,
I didn't think it was a good idea freedom camping
at Moat Lake for two reasons. Well there's three reasons.
But there's a perfectly good dock camping ground at Moat
(05:41):
Lake which has a warden, it has running water, and
it has toilets. And at the bottom of Moat Lake
four k's long towards Minorche is the twelve mile camping delta,
which is also has a warden, running water and toilets.
So one of the things was, so I said, you know,
as far as we're concerned, we don't want people camping
(06:02):
on the on the farm. So that the road Lake
Road goes right out through the Mortlake obviously, and either
side of the road it's not really wide and it's
not really suitable for it. But so what it transpired
was that the council put this out there and you
were given they are on the on the email. Would
you be prepared to expect to your submission, which I
(06:24):
said I would. So you were given five minutes and
the council headquarters that ten people sat around and you
told them what you know, what I put forward our reasons,
and one of the bigger reasons is fire. So you
know we've got where you've got the wardens. You know
that's kept people from the warden keeps nine. No fire
is getting out of control with freedom camps. It's just
(06:46):
it's a human thing about camping. Let's goide a fire
and we're in the red zone went for danger. So
you know that's a big seat with fern Hill just
our point retreat above us, a big settlement there, Fernhill, Queenstown.
So it's so went wrong that would go pretty quick.
So that was that was the direction I went, and
I listened to a few of other people said the
(07:07):
same same But I guess it come down to the
and it's not the council's faults. Well, no one's fault really,
but the council employed a company too with some suggestions
of the company basically said well, you know you could
freedom camp in all these areas and so that's from
from right over to Mount Nicholas Wilder Peak. So you
(07:29):
know you've got the dock camping ground at Mavora, but
then that opens up right into into world of Peak,
into Mount Nicholas, into the branches everywhere. Basically just put
a circle round the basin and people you can camp there.
So it's it's it's it's going to be quite interesting
to see what happens. So as a result, two days
(07:50):
of submission and then the and that's to try and
get a new camping by law that's going to going
to going to suit everybody. So it's it's different people
that have motor homes and are self contained. But one
of the problems that we have is those little little
vehicles that have the self contained little Yeah, and I mean,
(08:12):
as I said at the at the at the submissions,
I said, those little things couldn't contain a fart, let
alone a number one or number two. So that's what
we're dealing with. I mean, it's and one of the
submitters said, you know they're on about free camping, not
freedom camping, and this affects the town as well. And
with that, you know, you have you don't have rubbish TEMs,
(08:34):
you don't have people clip, you don't have toilets, and
the counts will out in a position to be able
to enforce the regulations when they come in because that understaff.
So yeah, it's a bit of a problem. Let's let's
hope we get a we get a result. And I
think the thing at the end of the day is
we do have good camping grounds and for the for
(08:55):
the Department Conservation, and they should be they should be used.
And let's keep the rubbish in the in the crap
of their of their highways and farces.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, one hundred percent grant. Always appreciate your time, mate, Thanks.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Andy, and let's go to the chedtlems, the heart the
grab mcmassa, thanks to albi Real before we go to
the chattle.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
And so let's got to rep your back on Saturday
when we beat Kennerbury. Kick this shield Day, Hillary Copeland
up next, benam and Crookshank Pride right,
It is in this time.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
We got supporters from miles around. We got we got
the heart, we got the through, We're raised on.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
It's just burn.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Thanks to Abby Rural. We go up to Lake Rocket
Tipping and catch up with great Disaster McMaster who farms
at close Barn Station Disaster. Good afternoon. I'm playing this
song at least once a day for the remainder of
the week. While actually while the Stags got the shield,
the Roaring Pin by the sweet Eaters hell of an
occasion in Hamilton on Sunday evening.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Oh, good afternoon, Andy, good after everybody. Yet, it was
a really proud moment for South and the game and
we're done that team. It was just magnificent and hearing
all the excuses about this and that, but you know
that was the squad of guy that went up there
and they put their bodies on the line, and by god,
they didn't leave anything up there, and they made us
all to gain.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, just talking to a few people saying, these all
backs coming into the way shadow squad. More than anything,
we're probably more of a disruption based on how the
team went the week before against the Natti.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yeah, I reckon if we might be better to put
some of the Stags players into the Bloody Allbacks team
because it could be quite a good result.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
At Closper Instation. It's wet, yeah, it is wet.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
It's it's the sun shining now. It's about eight degrees
soil temperatures three point five, so that's enough to give
a few more gray hairs. But no, it's just that
time there we've had. We've had sort of rain twenty meals,
ten meals, five meals, and small snow went around last
night round the tops and up the back of Closeburn
(01:42):
as well. So it's it's just been cold enough and
not really not ideal for the feed utilization that I
was talking about and with confidence just after we surely
use But it's yeah, no, it's just so good. But
then again, compared to last year, it's a lot better
because it will just continual rain week after week, wasn't it.
(02:05):
So at least we're getting a bit of a break.
And as I've said before the show that it doesn't
take long for it for the ground to dry out here.
So I didn't feed. Yes, I did feed Balley yesterday
and just started raining when I did that, but I
didn't feed any this morning, so it was just a
bit damp and greasy, but you know they picking up
(02:28):
most of the Baylor's just good quality baylors. But yeah,
they'ld padd It's a bit dirty looking and the glass
is pretty low, but I think thursdays it's not so
God it meant to pick up a little bit after that,
so but really nice to have these we get in
the breaks with a bit of sun when we do.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Tell you what, Bran, you talked the list last week
tag in cheek about we need to organize a tour
of the Chadham Islands. We've actually got a bit of
feedback courtesy of Batman at RB Rural saying people were
coming in to his work the next afternoon asking how
they can get involved with this to it. Have we
started something here?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I hope we have because it was sort of tongue
in cheek, but you know, I'd really like to go there.
If we could take a group there and have a
look at the farming side of it would be irish.
It would be good for both people. They'd be good
for the Chatham Islanders. I'd imagine it'd be quite good
for us. So yeah, we might have to look in
a bit a bit more endy.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, and also shout out to Ginny sent me a
text the other day regarding the Gregory Hunts. So I
talked about going to school with the monomrou greg and
Karen's children from pitt Islands were from over that way.
Karen nee Heath was read in Wyndham read her dad
was Henry Heath who had a friend shop, Small World.
It was from Ginny. Thanks for the feedback. So zunder
(03:40):
is sing when you talk about these things and these
little musings, how they get a bit of engagement as
well about people reminiscing.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yeah, absolutely, And you look at you know when you
read those articles as these names come up, and yeah,
it's the old thing, these zelands of small places and
that you know somebody you know somewhere. I went to
school with the Scofields and they spent time on the
chatterm Wellington. I think that's probably why I first probably
got to hear of it.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
To be fair, freedom camping is a big issue up
there in central Otago, especially around Queenstown. But you're talking
about permits and the likes you've got to do consents for,
is that right? Well?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah, so a couple of years ago, and I mean
there's a difference between freedom camping and free camping, and
I think most of these people are trying to go
free camping, and so particularly where we live, Moat Lake
and is a pretty popular area now. A couple of
years ago the k l DC, the Queenstown Lake Sister
(04:34):
Council put a van on freedom camping basically from Queenstown
up to Minukee. You know, dangers road, nowhere to go,
no toilet or something like that. The Motea Home Association association,
they went to court and they disputed that and said
it couldn't be done and by the leader of the Lord,
legislation needs to change. So as a result they won
(04:59):
the case and the people are people are camping again.
Now the council have of the in the process of
drafting a new a new freedom camping floor. So as
a result of that, I got a core from my neighbors.
A couple of weeks ago. He said the missions closed,
(05:21):
and he rang on the Friday lunchtime. He said submissions
closed in four years time. He said, cratchy to get
one that effects us. So I put a submission into
the q l DC and just said that you know,
I didn't think it was a good idea freedom camping
at Moat Lake for two reasons. Well there's three reasons.
But there's a perfectly good dock camping ground at Moat
(05:41):
Lake which has a warden, it has running water, and
it has toilets. And at the bottom of Moat Lake
four k's long towards Minorche is the twelve mile camping delta,
which is also has a warden, running water and toilets.
So one of the things was, so I said, you know,
as far as we're concerned, we don't want people camping
(06:02):
on the on the farm. So that the road Lake
Road goes right out through the Mortlake obviously, and either
side of the road it's not really wide and it's
not really suitable for it. But so what it transpired
was that the council put this out there and you
were given they are on the on the email. Would
you be prepared to expect to your submission, which I
(06:24):
said I would. So you were given five minutes and
the council headquarters that ten people sat around and you
told them what you know, what I put forward our reasons,
and one of the bigger reasons is fire. So you
know we've got where you've got the wardens. You know
that's kept people from the warden keeps nine. No fire
is getting out of control with freedom camps. It's just
(06:46):
it's a human thing about camping. Let's goide a fire
and we're in the red zone went for danger. So
you know that's a big seat with fern Hill just
our point retreat above us, a big settlement there, Fernhill, Queenstown.
So it's so went wrong that would go pretty quick.
So that was that was the direction I went, and
I listened to a few of other people said the
(07:07):
same same But I guess it come down to the
and it's not the council's faults. Well, no one's fault really,
but the council employed a company too with some suggestions
of the company basically said well, you know you could
freedom camp in all these areas and so that's from
from right over to Mount Nicholas Wilder Peak. So you
(07:29):
know you've got the dock camping ground at Mavora, but
then that opens up right into into world of Peak,
into Mount Nicholas, into the branches everywhere. Basically just put
a circle round the basin and people you can camp there.
So it's it's it's it's going to be quite interesting
to see what happens. So as a result, two days
(07:50):
of submission and then the and that's to try and
get a new camping by law that's going to going
to going to suit everybody. So it's it's different people
that have motor homes and are self contained. But one
of the problems that we have is those little little
vehicles that have the self contained little Yeah, and I mean,
(08:12):
as I said at the at the at the submissions,
I said, those little things couldn't contain a fart, let
alone a number one or number two. So that's what
we're dealing with. I mean, it's and one of the
submitters said, you know they're on about free camping, not
freedom camping, and this affects the town as well. And
with that, you know, you have you don't have rubbish TEMs,
(08:34):
you don't have people clip, you don't have toilets, and
the counts will out in a position to be able
to enforce the regulations when they come in because that understaff.
So yeah, it's a bit of a problem. Let's let's
hope we get a we get a result. And I
think the thing at the end of the day is
we do have good camping grounds and for the for
(08:55):
the Department Conservation, and they should be they should be used.
And let's keep the rubbish in the in the crap
of their of their highways and farces.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, one hundred percent grant. Always appreciate your time, mate, Thanks.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Andy, and let's go to the chedtlems, the heart the
grab mcmassa, thanks to albi Real before we go to
the chattle.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
And so let's got to rep your back on Saturday
when we beat Kennerbury. Kick this shield Day, Hillary Copeland
up next, benam and Crookshank Pride right,
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