November 24, 2025 • 9 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Grunt disaster mcmassa. We catch up once again. He is
farming at close Brands Station on the edges of lake
like a tippo when it comes courtesy of the team
at Arby Rural. Good afternoon, Grant.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Good afternoon, Andy, good afternoon.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Everybody you got the tailing got on the weekend?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
No, no, that's just coming week this week we hit
himself had Yeah, I was down at my Kaki last
weekend at the celebrating at the fiftieth Golf Club. So
that was that was a great night. So we've got
we've got the sort of round the horse paddocks done
here last week. I want to mention that went over
the hills yesterday and one hundred and forty twos that
are there with the singles. We tailed those, hit them
(00:45):
longer to get them in then tell them. But so
that's all done, and yeah, just start pushing a few
sheep around on probably Friday, ready for the kick off
six a m. Saturday morning.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
How's the fade looking up your way? Is it starting
to move?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, it's gone from a feast to a famine, as
it always does. But don't we forget quickly? But yeah,
it's it's still good here at clothes, but it's good.
It's as I said, it's been green all the way through.
But there's paddics now that are just just really a
few paddics are starting to someone that's under bolt into it,
and so that that's good. The Hell's still and good,
(01:22):
it's still in good fettle. Really, it hasn't hasn't gone
to seed. So it's that that's good and quite quality
feed at the moment. Lambs, you know, lambs driving around.
They look to be enjoying life, and cars are doing well,
so you know, we've we've we're looking pretty good. In fact,
over at the Hell's block, there's yeah, it's just about
(01:44):
got a woon being a couple of blocks, so might
even might even lock one paddic up for a bit
of bailage and then try and contain the rest. So
it's it's a good way to be. But yeah, there's
still you know, there's still water flowing pretty pretty freely
around places, and that you know, it would normally be
(02:05):
dried up by now, so that's you know, that's that's
quite that's good. Closer we get to Christmas without you know, well,
it's still got water going it's good, but all the
rain over the pocket at our Town it's and this
is probably due to development there. We've got a couple
of some quite nice paddocks here. They're all about three
(02:26):
and a half heck here, and two of them are
right beside the road, and you know, the first ones
we put turnips in and grass and really good paddocks.
But since they started the air burned development across which
the main lay Haye Ourtown road, and they muck around
with putting sort of passing lanes in and all of
(02:49):
a sudden, we're getting big. We're not getting any drainage
in these two paddocks. And in fact, so it's about
three and a half hectre's probably a hect here in
each paddock that's absolutely got these big poems in them,
and it hasn't gone anywhere. So that trying to get
the county onto that have a lot, but that's a
bit like pulling teeth. So yeah, that and I think
(03:09):
that's you know, because it's there's good soil over there,
and you get down and it's you know, it's good
alluvial gravel. But where these where these drains have originally
gone out, and I'm not too sure of that that
something's happened, and you know, because it's never pulled before,
and and it's you know, there's still bloody big ponds
out there with in those paddocks. It's never happened before,
so it's not getting away anywhere. And down on these
(03:32):
other interceptions as well, there's where there's a bit of
ground the you know, there's there's there's water just pulling
there with nowhere to go. So you know, we haven't
any rain for a while and still there, so it's
it's a bit of a bit worrying.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, you're talking about rules and regulations and talking to
the council about certain issues. Something you want to comment
on today.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, I just think, you know, we're just nowadays everybody
well it seems to be the councils and the and
the road and crews that the more everyone's more reactive
than proactive. So an example in the Moat Lake Road
that I spoke about a while ago, that it got
washed out and there's a couple of big springs in
the middle that when they when their contractor went through
(04:13):
and was you know, fixing things, and I stopped and
had a lock and they were putting putting cloth down
to try and put gravel on. And I said, what
about that bloody spring there, and I said, needs a
bit of the will never flow in it. So this
is right in the middle of the road, and he
should do it, does he said, But he said, I've
got to wait to get permission from the council. So
someone was having to drive out from the from the
(04:35):
from the council all down as it would have been,
and give him the permission to put the put the
you know, to put the drainage pipe in. And I
just know years ago the contractors all went around they
had pipe on the back and bloody tools and everything,
and but nowadays you've just got to you know, you've
got to wait and get the tackle. I said, just
why don't you just do it? So I know he said.
(04:55):
They don't like that, he said, because you know, might
put next one hundred dollars on something or or over
the amount is, and they've all got to be you know,
it's all got to be it's all going to be accountable,
which which is fine, but you look at everything else
around the country and it's millions and millions of dollars
run over. So and an example, going up there with
with the colvits. You know they don't keep clean the
colvers until it rains and it's flooding, they go and
(05:17):
clean them. So it's all asked about face And I
was just I was just reading one of the papers
about the storm clean ups that are happening within our
target on south and quite an interesting article about down
at the whacker there where the farmer asked, you know
you could he he has to contact the Regional Council
to get consent to get trees out of his waterways.
(05:39):
And the reply was that the shiny art that aren't that?
It said that you're any if you're unsure whether any
active these were permitted, they should contact the r C
and staff would provide advice as regard to the organizations.
We can't get permission to break the rules. Well, you know,
proactiff and reacted, what a load of crap. You know,
(06:00):
it's just no wonder the country's bugging and and things
don't get done. So you know you just got to
I think you've just got to take the ball by
the horns and get in and beg for forgiveness afterwards,
because otherwise nothing will bloody happened.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
But I'll tell you what if he's a right cone
that needs to go somewhere, boonfire, it's there and there
in numbers.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Well I was. I don't know if I mentioned this before,
but speargrass flat like it's the longest straightest road in
the basin up here, and go out towards our accown
and they have there's all these pink pinek there's all
(06:40):
these cones up there up there from time to time,
nothing happening, and they have they practice their training, those
putting pine cones, putting cones and bloody cone hes. I say,
but yeah, I mean this shows you the hell hell
how far things have gone, doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I see that in a couple of times year on
our street. It turned up one dawn the street was closed,
and what's going on? They're training people to get their
papers so they can do road management. I mean, why
not go and do it somewhere at five am in
the morning or seven thirty at night where there isn't
an issue. But no, they've got to do it at
three o'clock in the afternoon near the middle of Gore.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Why don't you just do it when in the place
in your workplace where it's happening. I mean, it's not
like you're doing bloody. They're not performing brain surgery. So
just get out there and do it. And if you're
too far on the road and get run over, you'd
only do it once. But I mean that's been a
little bit flat because you know, one thing you've got
to do is keep the speed of it while they've
(07:37):
got cones up. But you know, having a training gay
to put them up, well, jeez, that's just that's just
taking a bit far.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I reckon, I reckon. The greatest thing of road cones
is somebody got a road cone and put the top
put it up the top of a tree last year.
It must have been after for a few years. Even
knows how they managed to do it, but it looked
out standing.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Well, they've done that, and they do that in Queenstown
all the time. There's a down by the steam of
Wolf there's a canoe or wock on what do they
call it, and it gets filled up with road cones
all the time. And I was driving back the other
knafe on the block over at our town, coming up
through Gorge Rows and this this great big tree sort
of must be somewhere near the Celtics service stage somewhere
(08:16):
and right at the top of it their own road cone.
So I had a good old love. Sure it must
have been an arborist that put that up or some
of that, so you wasn't scared of heights because it
just stands like stands out like the paverbial.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
And a special honorable mention to the individual to put
a shopping trolley out the top of the arch on
the boalcloother bridge.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Those people can't out much to do with it. They'd
be better putting that into sort of that's working or something.
But you know it's you know, some people go to
all sorts. They must have a lot of time on hands.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Andy they must not that we can condain that activity nonetheless, disaster,
but hey, it's always good to catch up. Enjoy the
RVO mate.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I will and I'll have a report back about how
tailing goes and how the crew perform on next Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
You know, pressure on Tubby in the team.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Now and as long as Handy remembers to bring the
rubber ring, that will be a good start.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Grant Disaster McMaster thanks to Abby Rural. You're listening to
the Muster. Ellen McCleary is up next from Sherwell, New
Zealand And Studio
Grunt disaster mcmassa. We catch up once again. He is
farming at close Brands Station on the edges of lake
like a tippo when it comes courtesy of the team
at Arby Rural. Good afternoon, Grant.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Good afternoon, Andy, good afternoon.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Everybody you got the tailing got on the weekend?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
No, no, that's just coming week this week we hit
himself had Yeah, I was down at my Kaki last
weekend at the celebrating at the fiftieth Golf Club. So
that was that was a great night. So we've got
we've got the sort of round the horse paddocks done
here last week. I want to mention that went over
the hills yesterday and one hundred and forty twos that
are there with the singles. We tailed those, hit them
(00:45):
longer to get them in then tell them. But so
that's all done, and yeah, just start pushing a few
sheep around on probably Friday, ready for the kick off
six a m. Saturday morning.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
How's the fade looking up your way? Is it starting
to move?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, it's gone from a feast to a famine, as
it always does. But don't we forget quickly? But yeah,
it's it's still good here at clothes, but it's good.
It's as I said, it's been green all the way through.
But there's paddics now that are just just really a
few paddics are starting to someone that's under bolt into it,
and so that that's good. The Hell's still and good,
(01:22):
it's still in good fettle. Really, it hasn't hasn't gone
to seed. So it's that that's good and quite quality
feed at the moment. Lambs, you know, lambs driving around.
They look to be enjoying life, and cars are doing well,
so you know, we've we've we're looking pretty good. In fact,
over at the Hell's block, there's yeah, it's just about
(01:44):
got a woon being a couple of blocks, so might
even might even lock one paddic up for a bit
of bailage and then try and contain the rest. So
it's it's a good way to be. But yeah, there's
still you know, there's still water flowing pretty pretty freely
around places, and that you know, it would normally be
(02:05):
dried up by now, so that's you know, that's that's
quite that's good. Closer we get to Christmas without you know, well,
it's still got water going it's good, but all the
rain over the pocket at our Town it's and this
is probably due to development there. We've got a couple
of some quite nice paddocks here. They're all about three
(02:26):
and a half heck here, and two of them are
right beside the road, and you know, the first ones
we put turnips in and grass and really good paddocks.
But since they started the air burned development across which
the main lay Haye Ourtown road, and they muck around
with putting sort of passing lanes in and all of
(02:49):
a sudden, we're getting big. We're not getting any drainage
in these two paddocks. And in fact, so it's about
three and a half hectre's probably a hect here in
each paddock that's absolutely got these big poems in them,
and it hasn't gone anywhere. So that trying to get
the county onto that have a lot, but that's a
bit like pulling teeth. So yeah, that and I think
(03:09):
that's you know, because it's there's good soil over there,
and you get down and it's you know, it's good
alluvial gravel. But where these where these drains have originally
gone out, and I'm not too sure of that that
something's happened, and you know, because it's never pulled before,
and and it's you know, there's still bloody big ponds
out there with in those paddocks. It's never happened before,
so it's not getting away anywhere. And down on these
(03:32):
other interceptions as well, there's where there's a bit of
ground the you know, there's there's there's water just pulling
there with nowhere to go. So you know, we haven't
any rain for a while and still there, so it's
it's a bit of a bit worrying.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, you're talking about rules and regulations and talking to
the council about certain issues. Something you want to comment
on today.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, I just think, you know, we're just nowadays everybody
well it seems to be the councils and the and
the road and crews that the more everyone's more reactive
than proactive. So an example in the Moat Lake Road
that I spoke about a while ago, that it got
washed out and there's a couple of big springs in
the middle that when they when their contractor went through
(04:13):
and was you know, fixing things, and I stopped and
had a lock and they were putting putting cloth down
to try and put gravel on. And I said, what
about that bloody spring there, and I said, needs a
bit of the will never flow in it. So this
is right in the middle of the road, and he
should do it, does he said, But he said, I've
got to wait to get permission from the council. So
someone was having to drive out from the from the
(04:35):
from the council all down as it would have been,
and give him the permission to put the put the
you know, to put the drainage pipe in. And I
just know years ago the contractors all went around they
had pipe on the back and bloody tools and everything,
and but nowadays you've just got to you know, you've
got to wait and get the tackle. I said, just
why don't you just do it? So I know he said.
(04:55):
They don't like that, he said, because you know, might
put next one hundred dollars on something or or over
the amount is, and they've all got to be you know,
it's all got to be it's all going to be accountable,
which which is fine, but you look at everything else
around the country and it's millions and millions of dollars
run over. So and an example, going up there with
with the colvits. You know they don't keep clean the
colvers until it rains and it's flooding, they go and
(05:17):
clean them. So it's all asked about face And I
was just I was just reading one of the papers
about the storm clean ups that are happening within our
target on south and quite an interesting article about down
at the whacker there where the farmer asked, you know
you could he he has to contact the Regional Council
to get consent to get trees out of his waterways.
(05:39):
And the reply was that the shiny art that aren't that?
It said that you're any if you're unsure whether any
active these were permitted, they should contact the r C
and staff would provide advice as regard to the organizations.
We can't get permission to break the rules. Well, you know,
proactiff and reacted, what a load of crap. You know,
(06:00):
it's just no wonder the country's bugging and and things
don't get done. So you know you just got to
I think you've just got to take the ball by
the horns and get in and beg for forgiveness afterwards,
because otherwise nothing will bloody happened.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
But I'll tell you what if he's a right cone
that needs to go somewhere, boonfire, it's there and there
in numbers.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Well I was. I don't know if I mentioned this before,
but speargrass flat like it's the longest straightest road in
the basin up here, and go out towards our accown
and they have there's all these pink pinek there's all
(06:40):
these cones up there up there from time to time,
nothing happening, and they have they practice their training, those
putting pine cones, putting cones and bloody cone hes. I say,
but yeah, I mean this shows you the hell hell
how far things have gone, doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I see that in a couple of times year on
our street. It turned up one dawn the street was closed,
and what's going on? They're training people to get their
papers so they can do road management. I mean, why
not go and do it somewhere at five am in
the morning or seven thirty at night where there isn't
an issue. But no, they've got to do it at
three o'clock in the afternoon near the middle of Gore.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Why don't you just do it when in the place
in your workplace where it's happening. I mean, it's not
like you're doing bloody. They're not performing brain surgery. So
just get out there and do it. And if you're
too far on the road and get run over, you'd
only do it once. But I mean that's been a
little bit flat because you know, one thing you've got
to do is keep the speed of it while they've
(07:37):
got cones up. But you know, having a training gay
to put them up, well, jeez, that's just that's just
taking a bit far.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I reckon, I reckon. The greatest thing of road cones
is somebody got a road cone and put the top
put it up the top of a tree last year.
It must have been after for a few years. Even
knows how they managed to do it, but it looked
out standing.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Well, they've done that, and they do that in Queenstown
all the time. There's a down by the steam of
Wolf there's a canoe or wock on what do they
call it, and it gets filled up with road cones
all the time. And I was driving back the other
knafe on the block over at our town, coming up
through Gorge Rows and this this great big tree sort
of must be somewhere near the Celtics service stage somewhere
(08:16):
and right at the top of it their own road cone.
So I had a good old love. Sure it must
have been an arborist that put that up or some
of that, so you wasn't scared of heights because it
just stands like stands out like the paverbial.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
And a special honorable mention to the individual to put
a shopping trolley out the top of the arch on
the boalcloother bridge.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Those people can't out much to do with it. They'd
be better putting that into sort of that's working or something.
But you know it's you know, some people go to
all sorts. They must have a lot of time on hands.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Andy they must not that we can condain that activity nonetheless, disaster,
but hey, it's always good to catch up. Enjoy the
RVO mate.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I will and I'll have a report back about how
tailing goes and how the crew perform on next Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
You know, pressure on Tubby in the team.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Now and as long as Handy remembers to bring the
rubber ring, that will be a good start.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Grant Disaster McMaster thanks to Abby Rural. You're listening to
the Muster. Ellen McCleary is up next from Sherwell, New
Zealand And Studio
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