October 7, 2025 • 9 mins
Jacob Duffy reflects on a busy six months of cricket which seen him earn his first Test cap amongst other things.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
This welcome back to the Muster on Haka nuie. Jacob Duffy,
Black Caps bowler. Of course, his origins were from Lumsden
to Northern South and we spoke to him a wee
while ago now and he's just about to go over
to the UK and to do a Stinton County cricket.
But since then I think it's fear, as say, has
(00:25):
been quite a bit going on in his cricketing landscape.
Jacob joins us this afternoon to give us a bit
of a rundown about it all. Jacob, welcome to the
Muster once again.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I don't know where's me.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah. Last time we spoke to you, it was on
the eve of departing over of going over to the
UK to be part of the County Championship for Worcestership.
I think I pronounced that correctly. I mean it's Worcester, Worcestershire, Worcestershire.
It's one of the other, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
You're doing than me? Yeah, yeah, that's a cool trip.
Obviously signed up to do sort of a three months
playing a mixture of four day cricket and twenty twenty crickets.
What a long stant to be honest, three months of
like full on. You know, their schedule over there's crazy,
so you're sort of playing four or five days out
a week, so that was pretty full on, and then
(01:12):
they're from there. We're lucky. We went to Zimbabwe on
the black Caps tour and we had a successful twenty
twenty series and then followed by obviously a Test Day
boo as well, which is cool. And then we've got
a very very last minute quarter to go join up
in one hundred as an injury replacements, So back to
the UK we went. And then yeah, come September, I
managed to miss all the winter and get home for
(01:33):
a sunny spring. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, and Verda commas on that one, mate. But like
we talk about going over and we you know, last
time we spoke about county cricket. Arguably it could be
considered a grind playing cricket five days a week. How
did you find it?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, Grind's a good way to put it. But yeah,
the schedule, this is a hot topic over there. They
play fourteen first class games, which is a lot, says
fourteen four as we play eight over here. So they
are playing you know, sort of Monday to thursda every
week with you know, a lot of bus travel and
things like that. Luckily, Wooster was quite a bowling friendly
(02:11):
sort of place, so we acceed some shortened games in
terms of like you know, we're sort of three D
fixes sometimes just because yes, that has could survived in
the four days. But it was a grind, mate, But
it was awesome, awesome experience. It's something I've always sort
of looked at from a distance and watched. So to
get over there and see what it's like from the
south and you know, put myself through the grind was
a you know, it was a good challenge.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
And you compare it to what we see over here
in New Zealand with the planket shield and the likes.
From your perspective, what's the biggest difference apart from playing time?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, it's a lot of people ask you that it's
what's the quality light? Is it better as it worse?
It's so hard to say because conditions are so different.
So well, for one, they use a different ball, so
they use a juke ball, which helps the bowler's moth
so it does more, it swings more. But their pitch
are so slow and pract to be honestly, now, they're
like low slow. They suit sort of medium pace lest
(03:09):
slow bowling guys who are just running and there's a
skill and you know they're deadly accurate at what they do.
But for regard, let me, I come over with a
little bit extra pace. That sort of worked against you
over there. You know, guys could use that pace for
as the slow bowler as they couldn't really hit the
ball for the line. So it was a challenge in itself.
(03:29):
It was a good challenge for me because obviously, go
We've got a Test series over the next year, so
it's sort of good prep for that. But yeah, it's
just very, very different. So yeah, it's almost hard to explain.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
And I now you bring up an interesting situation. They're
regarding the ball, the juke ball very much notorious over
in the UK, the kooko barter ball generally used around
the rest of the world. Is there there big a
difference between the use of the cracker ball? It is?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
It is, Yeah, the juke ball sort of laugh all
eighty overs. You can still have a swinger ball come
the seving us over, whereas the coroco baro ball sort
of dies maybe at best after thirty forty overs. So
it depends on where you look at it. I guess,
you know, guys have to be a bit more creative
in terms of how you're getting guys out. That's why
(04:16):
we see a lot of bounce of plans over here
and guys like, now we're going to have made that popular.
But they trial the coucobar of this. They play four
of their fourteen rounds with cocobarra balls and you just
see the scores skyrocket. You know that you're getting silly
games like one thing gets six hundred, the next team
gets seven hundred and they shake hands. So yeah, there
(04:37):
is a bit of a difference. And yeah, I'm not
sure what the right answer is. I think the Krokobar
works well in New Yellen and the duke Will works
well in England, so maybe it is that's just how
it should be.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Now, Test Stavo occurred a couple of months back. Now
Jacob in Zimbabwe, just explain what that meant to you
and actually have the silver thrown one and the longer
format of the game.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, it was very special. You know, I'm not I'm
not a spring chicken, Yed Moore. I turned thirty one
just around that time, so and there's been a lot
of times where I thought that sort of test tavy
might never come. So I guess to finally get it
and ID and finally get that to get the baggy
black Cat was it was very spe sure And yeah,
(05:18):
I guess at times like that you sort of reflect on,
you know, how you got there, all the people it
took to get you there, And yeah, there's certainly what
the hell of a lot of people that were that
did get me there, especially you know from the southern folks,
by family, all the coaches growing up and then supportive
life now. So there was a very cool reflecting time
(05:39):
over as a babe. The shame wasn't in New Zealand.
I could have done it in front of Myndew Zealand
you know, friends and family. But yes, that's one thing
you're never to take off me as my black Cat.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Being in camp with the test team. Is there any
difference to say, the short form format when you're all
together or it's pretty much the same as just a
different format.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Us a cushion, Very much the same. Everyone's pretty relaxed
in both sort of camps. There's a lot of crossover
in terms of players and stuff, but yeah, no, I
would't say it's a huge difference. I have been in
and around the Test team a lot in the last
four years. I just haven't played much, to be honest,
so I've sat there and carried a lot of drinks.
But still some of my best cricketing memories have come
(06:22):
in the Test are in it, you know, Like I
was there for the build up of the World Test
Championship final. I was there in India for the three Nils,
serious sweep ahead of them over there, and some of
those are some of the best touring times in my life.
So it is a very very cool and like you said,
it's very rewarding when you do you do pull cool
things off. And yes it still wasn't very specially part
(06:45):
of that group.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
But at the same time, playing at the Mount over
the weekend Bowlington, Mitchell Marsh, you still must pinch yourself
to see yourself in those situations.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Right, Yeah, yeah, you do. You know, growing up you
watch the Chapel, Headley and elm versus Ossie is always
the big ones. There's the one I got excited for
as a kid, you know, see Brendan McCullum sort of
scoop ramp and Sean take for in the early days
and things like that, you know that were sort of
the memord ones. So yeah, he's cut up against the
(07:13):
big brother. Was pretty cool. We probably didn't put our
best product out there. But they're playing a team man Styre,
playing a grist of brown and cricket and I think
they've one about twenty five of the our thirty twenty twenties,
so you know they're they're they're the informed team going
into a sort of a World Cup year next year.
So awesome prep for the start of the summer.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Certainly from a pan from a fans perspective, Jacob playing
Australia straight away it gives you anxiety and sends you
to a shrink because you know how it's been over
the years. But when you're on there, torena yourself as such,
what do you do do? You just have to get
mind over matter and just focus on what you're doing.
Given it is a much daunted betting prose betting team
you're facing, there is a little bit.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
That to us.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Mate.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
You know, they're all massive, big blokes. They're a lot
bigger than that we have, like physically the brand of
cricket they're playing right now. Obviously they've just bought into this,
not given a crap by locks of it. You know,
they go out and they're swing hard and it's yeah,
it looks we're freeing when to play the cricket. So
there is a little bit that I think we come
out in that first game and quickly as a bowling
(08:20):
in it, we sort of yeah, we're a little bit
on the deck spot there. I thought the way we
come out there that last game almost offended sort of
a lowest total apart from a good Mitch Mass century.
I thought we, yeah, we're better off for that first one.
That for us head out and yeah, shame of the
run out in the middle because I would have loved
another got.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Them and just finally England's next on the shed. You're
not too far away. What do you do in between
and between the weeks before preparation himself as such?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yep, So it's just the mirror ga around continues. You know,
they're here sort of next week, So I've got the
week spinning mustily Tiger bots this week just training and
do digging along with their present preseason stuff. So ticking
over the bowling and sort of using it as a
bit of a catch up on what sort of my
strength and conditioning to and my lifting of my running.
So GotY he'd be training week and then we got
(09:13):
to Cross rich on the Monday, so yeah that's the plain.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Hey, good on you're Jacob. Thanks very much for your
time on the Muster. So we're enjoying watching your work
down here in the Deep South and we'll continue to
do so. Always appreciate your time. We'll catch up again.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Helloa's mate Blody. Guys, thanks having.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Me Jacob Duffy black Cat cricketer doing a sterling job
as well. England series coming up. Before we wrap up,
Catherine Wright, we're talking mental Health Awareness Week,
This welcome back to the Muster on Haka nuie. Jacob Duffy,
Black Caps bowler. Of course, his origins were from Lumsden
to Northern South and we spoke to him a wee
while ago now and he's just about to go over
to the UK and to do a Stinton County cricket.
But since then I think it's fear, as say, has
(00:25):
been quite a bit going on in his cricketing landscape.
Jacob joins us this afternoon to give us a bit
of a rundown about it all. Jacob, welcome to the
Muster once again.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I don't know where's me.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah. Last time we spoke to you, it was on
the eve of departing over of going over to the
UK to be part of the County Championship for Worcestership.
I think I pronounced that correctly. I mean it's Worcester, Worcestershire, Worcestershire.
It's one of the other, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
You're doing than me? Yeah, yeah, that's a cool trip.
Obviously signed up to do sort of a three months
playing a mixture of four day cricket and twenty twenty crickets.
What a long stant to be honest, three months of
like full on. You know, their schedule over there's crazy,
so you're sort of playing four or five days out
a week, so that was pretty full on, and then
(01:12):
they're from there. We're lucky. We went to Zimbabwe on
the black Caps tour and we had a successful twenty
twenty series and then followed by obviously a Test Day
boo as well, which is cool. And then we've got
a very very last minute quarter to go join up
in one hundred as an injury replacements, So back to
the UK we went. And then yeah, come September, I
managed to miss all the winter and get home for
(01:33):
a sunny spring. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, and Verda commas on that one, mate. But like
we talk about going over and we you know, last
time we spoke about county cricket. Arguably it could be
considered a grind playing cricket five days a week. How
did you find it?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, Grind's a good way to put it. But yeah,
the schedule, this is a hot topic over there. They
play fourteen first class games, which is a lot, says
fourteen four as we play eight over here. So they
are playing you know, sort of Monday to thursda every
week with you know, a lot of bus travel and
things like that. Luckily, Wooster was quite a bowling friendly
(02:11):
sort of place, so we acceed some shortened games in
terms of like you know, we're sort of three D
fixes sometimes just because yes, that has could survived in
the four days. But it was a grind, mate, But
it was awesome, awesome experience. It's something I've always sort
of looked at from a distance and watched. So to
get over there and see what it's like from the
south and you know, put myself through the grind was
a you know, it was a good challenge.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
And you compare it to what we see over here
in New Zealand with the planket shield and the likes.
From your perspective, what's the biggest difference apart from playing time?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, it's a lot of people ask you that it's
what's the quality light? Is it better as it worse?
It's so hard to say because conditions are so different.
So well, for one, they use a different ball, so
they use a juke ball, which helps the bowler's moth
so it does more, it swings more. But their pitch
are so slow and pract to be honestly, now, they're
like low slow. They suit sort of medium pace lest
(03:09):
slow bowling guys who are just running and there's a
skill and you know they're deadly accurate at what they do.
But for regard, let me, I come over with a
little bit extra pace. That sort of worked against you
over there. You know, guys could use that pace for
as the slow bowler as they couldn't really hit the
ball for the line. So it was a challenge in itself.
(03:29):
It was a good challenge for me because obviously, go
We've got a Test series over the next year, so
it's sort of good prep for that. But yeah, it's
just very, very different. So yeah, it's almost hard to explain.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
And I now you bring up an interesting situation. They're
regarding the ball, the juke ball very much notorious over
in the UK, the kooko barter ball generally used around
the rest of the world. Is there there big a
difference between the use of the cracker ball? It is?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
It is, Yeah, the juke ball sort of laugh all
eighty overs. You can still have a swinger ball come
the seving us over, whereas the coroco baro ball sort
of dies maybe at best after thirty forty overs. So
it depends on where you look at it. I guess,
you know, guys have to be a bit more creative
in terms of how you're getting guys out. That's why
(04:16):
we see a lot of bounce of plans over here
and guys like, now we're going to have made that popular.
But they trial the coucobar of this. They play four
of their fourteen rounds with cocobarra balls and you just
see the scores skyrocket. You know that you're getting silly
games like one thing gets six hundred, the next team
gets seven hundred and they shake hands. So yeah, there
(04:37):
is a bit of a difference. And yeah, I'm not
sure what the right answer is. I think the Krokobar
works well in New Yellen and the duke Will works
well in England, so maybe it is that's just how
it should be.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Now, Test Stavo occurred a couple of months back. Now
Jacob in Zimbabwe, just explain what that meant to you
and actually have the silver thrown one and the longer
format of the game.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, it was very special. You know, I'm not I'm
not a spring chicken, Yed Moore. I turned thirty one
just around that time, so and there's been a lot
of times where I thought that sort of test tavy
might never come. So I guess to finally get it
and ID and finally get that to get the baggy
black Cat was it was very spe sure And yeah,
(05:18):
I guess at times like that you sort of reflect on,
you know, how you got there, all the people it
took to get you there, And yeah, there's certainly what
the hell of a lot of people that were that
did get me there, especially you know from the southern folks,
by family, all the coaches growing up and then supportive
life now. So there was a very cool reflecting time
(05:39):
over as a babe. The shame wasn't in New Zealand.
I could have done it in front of Myndew Zealand
you know, friends and family. But yes, that's one thing
you're never to take off me as my black Cat.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Being in camp with the test team. Is there any
difference to say, the short form format when you're all
together or it's pretty much the same as just a
different format.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Us a cushion, Very much the same. Everyone's pretty relaxed
in both sort of camps. There's a lot of crossover
in terms of players and stuff, but yeah, no, I
would't say it's a huge difference. I have been in
and around the Test team a lot in the last
four years. I just haven't played much, to be honest,
so I've sat there and carried a lot of drinks.
But still some of my best cricketing memories have come
(06:22):
in the Test are in it, you know, Like I
was there for the build up of the World Test
Championship final. I was there in India for the three Nils,
serious sweep ahead of them over there, and some of
those are some of the best touring times in my life.
So it is a very very cool and like you said,
it's very rewarding when you do you do pull cool
things off. And yes it still wasn't very specially part
(06:45):
of that group.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
But at the same time, playing at the Mount over
the weekend Bowlington, Mitchell Marsh, you still must pinch yourself
to see yourself in those situations.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Right, Yeah, yeah, you do. You know, growing up you
watch the Chapel, Headley and elm versus Ossie is always
the big ones. There's the one I got excited for
as a kid, you know, see Brendan McCullum sort of
scoop ramp and Sean take for in the early days
and things like that, you know that were sort of
the memord ones. So yeah, he's cut up against the
(07:13):
big brother. Was pretty cool. We probably didn't put our
best product out there. But they're playing a team man Styre,
playing a grist of brown and cricket and I think
they've one about twenty five of the our thirty twenty twenties,
so you know they're they're they're the informed team going
into a sort of a World Cup year next year.
So awesome prep for the start of the summer.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Certainly from a pan from a fans perspective, Jacob playing
Australia straight away it gives you anxiety and sends you
to a shrink because you know how it's been over
the years. But when you're on there, torena yourself as such,
what do you do do? You just have to get
mind over matter and just focus on what you're doing.
Given it is a much daunted betting prose betting team
you're facing, there is a little bit.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
That to us.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Mate.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
You know, they're all massive, big blokes. They're a lot
bigger than that we have, like physically the brand of
cricket they're playing right now. Obviously they've just bought into this,
not given a crap by locks of it. You know,
they go out and they're swing hard and it's yeah,
it looks we're freeing when to play the cricket. So
there is a little bit that I think we come
out in that first game and quickly as a bowling
(08:20):
in it, we sort of yeah, we're a little bit
on the deck spot there. I thought the way we
come out there that last game almost offended sort of
a lowest total apart from a good Mitch Mass century.
I thought we, yeah, we're better off for that first one.
That for us head out and yeah, shame of the
run out in the middle because I would have loved
another got.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Them and just finally England's next on the shed. You're
not too far away. What do you do in between
and between the weeks before preparation himself as such?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yep, So it's just the mirror ga around continues. You know,
they're here sort of next week, So I've got the
week spinning mustily Tiger bots this week just training and
do digging along with their present preseason stuff. So ticking
over the bowling and sort of using it as a
bit of a catch up on what sort of my
strength and conditioning to and my lifting of my running.
So GotY he'd be training week and then we got
(09:13):
to Cross rich on the Monday, so yeah that's the plain.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Hey, good on you're Jacob. Thanks very much for your
time on the Muster. So we're enjoying watching your work
down here in the Deep South and we'll continue to
do so. Always appreciate your time. We'll catch up again.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Helloa's mate Blody. Guys, thanks having.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Me Jacob Duffy black Cat cricketer doing a sterling job
as well. England series coming up. Before we wrap up,
Catherine Wright, we're talking mental Health Awareness Week,
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