December 14, 2025 • 9 mins
Jacob Duffy reflects on a big start to the summer of cricket which sees him as the world's leading international wicket taker for 2025.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
That's why I've Scotch welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
This is the muster On Hakanui, our next guest. We
spoke to him a week while ago, and it's fair
to say that things have gone pretty dumb well for
him since his name is Jacob Duffy at the moment
leading the bowling attack for the black Caps and doing
a pretty darn good job of it as well. Jacob,
welcome once.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Again, Thanks any thanks's me.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
You're always good to catch up mate. Look firstly, these
stats for twenty and twenty five. You've probably heard them,
but they're pretty impressive. Reading thirty five matches, seventy two wickets,
seventeen point four to seven average, a twenty two point
twenty nine strike for eight five for thirty four of
your best figures. This is for the year twenty twenty five,
and the leading wicket taker an international cricket for twenty
(00:53):
twenty five seventy two wickets. Not as well, we'll throw
in those two five wicket bags against the Windy's recently.
That's pretty are going there.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
It's crazy, isn't it when you're sad like that? Yeah,
So it's just a dream just to play one game
for your country. And then you get on a wee
roll and start getting picked and stuff, and you sort
of expirations change a little bit. So it's just been awesome, man.
Just to be sort of a regular member and the team.
I think I've only this home summer especially, I've only
missed one game due to rest, so she had to
play every game has been awesome. And just to get
(01:23):
comfortable at international levels, it's such a cool feeling, man,
And just to be, you know, part of sort of
a winning team, a team that's doing well and playing
winning contributions as good.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
So considering you've stuck at the domestic game for so
long since twenty twelve, giving your opportunity of making it
work too still must be a real pinch me moment.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
It is, mate, Yeah, for sure. I always say it
like those years of my life. I guess that's that's
helped me so much and sort of easy as now
you know all that experience built up. Although it's at
a different level, it's still cricket the end of the day,
and now I played a lot of cricket, albeit domestic level.
I feel there's not many sort of scenarios of situations
or conditions that I haven't experienced before and now I'm
(02:06):
sort of I'm getting them at the international level. I
feel comfortable and know what to do and how to
sort of respond to those situations, which it's that huge
and you think it more and more like in the
domestic scene these days.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
You see like Michael Ray the other day debuted and he.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Come in and did really well. And obviously when Darryl
for It started he had a massive sort of domestic
experience mind has about to and now he's pressure internationally.
So that's good, you know, signed for our system and
domestic cricket and shows you how strong it is.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Well if you compare it to Australia and David Hussey's
and Michael Hussey, sorry's the one betsman that comes to mind.
Almost ten thousand runs domestically before you got a look
and into the Australian team. But to see that New
Zealand's getting debts and I suppose we can talk about
those injuries as well. Certainly been a lot going on,
but it just shows like you say that we're building
bowling debts, it isn't it.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
And there's not many dudes has come to play for
New Zealand in.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Recent years and just hasn't sort of now on a
hudge straight away again, Like I say, it's huge, it's
huge respect to sort of domestic game. But yeah, like
you know, there's a time there where there's obviously Sally
was a big one keeping the out of scene, but
you had Bolt and wagging the met Henry. Obviously these
are a great souri of game, but sort of just
how that spot for a sort of a decade plus
(03:19):
and you know that had to end one day and
I kind of has now. So it stime for the
next generation to step up, which you know, I think
we're doing all right.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, of course Michael Ray doing his thing the other
day as well, Zach Folks on the scene player taking
a unfortunately with that injury. But that's a staggering thing
about this one. The other day you did it a
player down.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, it's been a bit too much of that lately.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Only only one playdown, two bad mates, so better than
only even two. Seems like we didn't Hegley.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Which I'm not gonna lie. That sucks. That was too much.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
That was a lot of bowling and to get the
end of that Hegley game and only came out with
a drawer was pretty disheartening. So did you get across
the line this time? I think I know when text
went down, obviously we felt down, but we're also thinking,
oh god, here we go again. So he really turned
the game and that first innings with his spell, he
was brought the energy and got them jumping around and
(04:11):
his forkits were huge there, so that can't be understated.
But then I guess to go out on that, you
know that that third innings and do what we did
and get it done.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Reasonably quickly too.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Was was seriously satisfying and and good for the body
to get a future days off too.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
That's a big thing of being a frontline bowler and
bringing the energy as they call it, to the field,
and it must be a big It must be really
messive for you guys. Somebody like Michael Ray seems a
larger life personality, comes across really well and just brings
a little bit of X fact there. It must be
pretty cool on the field.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
That is. N he's a good friend of mine. I's
actually a gringeman at his wedding. He's He's obviously played
a lot of cricket for Tago, so we've gone really
well but here's here's a character. And especially anytime we
get the Solvely Mitch David as well, and it is
pretty special. Were getting the debutants come in for the
captain ceremonies and stuff. It's just sort of first time
going through all that, and you know, you sort of
(05:03):
make a big deal of it and they get their
hat and it's very special. And then yeah, even during
the game, you're just you're feeding off your energy. And
I'll be honest, mate, it's easier.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I guess it must be.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I know whether it's adrenaline or whatever it is, but
it's easy to get up to test cricket then learn
the domestic four day stuff, that's for sure. So your
body could be hurting a little bit more, but I
guess you just don't quite notice it because I guess
there's a little bit more on the line, and you know,
there's a bit of buzz in the crowd and you
get a bit of fizz and energy off that too.
So that's good fun and I'm really really enjoying it.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
So in your bowl, ninety two overs over two test matches,
So you can't tell me it doesn't take a toll
on the body.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Oh, defin.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, that first after that first game, I'm not gonna
I got up Like every spell I got up for
it wasn't too bad. I knew it had a job
to do, and a big part of that was bringing
like good energy, and I was buying a lot of
bounces on that sort of docile wicket, so I knew
I just had to bring good energy. But then those
two days I said, I felt like.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I would have by track.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
That was I my knees were a bit sore and
hobbed them out of bed in the morning.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I got tended off.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
The on my knees, So I'm just dealing with that constantly.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
So that played up.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
But then I guess there was the day before it
was finally the day I felt okay. And then yeah,
it probably showed that day one of that last year
that exactly as well. We're both a little bit flat
that first spell, but sort of once we got into
the rhythm of the game and stuff and brought a
bit of more energy, we're sort of underway again.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I thought we did have You had to reassesss your
goals based on the way that things have gone this season.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Ah, No, not really.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I'm not a big goal setter in that regard. I
just sort of, you know, I'm joining the rides. I'm
trying to just keep improving sort of every day, and
that's the main thing. I've got a few different work
on in terms of sort of my whitefool game, whether
it be Slavs or death Execution, all that kind of stuff,
and then a little few work onto the repul. I
guess that's sort of the goals I have in my mind.
(06:58):
I don't really have sort of you know, games played
or the selections all that kind of stuff. I sort
of just stick to my stick to my own stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Your name's being meeting quite a bit regarding the ip
O loction coming up this week, Jacob, would you be
keen to be involved?
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Uh? Yeah, it's a funny one. We because we obviously
we've got to India for a tour just for the
World Cup, so and then the World Cup goes for
abo a month, so it's already two months in India straight,
and then I guess if you made the OPR you'd
go for another two and a half months straight after that,
So you've got four and a half months in India straight,
which is a long time away from home, So yeah,
(07:38):
it'll be very cool and it'll be an amazing experience
and obviously you know there's the money and stuff will
be pretty tall. But on the other hand, if I
didn't go, but a time at home wouldn't be the
worst thing in the world either. Two's obviously what's coming up,
big tests and stuff next year, So I'm doing it
as a win each way. If if I do, I
do it. Then if I don't, I don't. Happy days
and we can do other stuff. So yeah, that is
(07:59):
a bit of a us anyone to us Jacob.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
From a player's perspective, there's no more Red Bull cricket
after the Third Test against the Windys this week. Is
it a bit of a letdown after what we've had
over the last couple of weeks? And what is it?
No Red Bull cricket again until against England?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Is that right? Yeah? England and Ireland first and then
Englandland May June.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah, I don't know, I guess yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Some people absolutely love the Red Bull.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
I sort of like, I kind of love it all.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
So I really enjoyed the twenty twenty stuff. Touring India
is a pretty special place to go, so I've hardly said,
it's a letdown, and obviously with an ICC event a
World Cup on the horizon too, that's never I've never
been to a rod Cup before, so I've done the
Champions Trophy you last year, but I've never done the
World Cup. So World Cup in India is pretty special.
So I can't say it's a let down there.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I dare say, you're just so like you say, you're
just soaking everything in. It's all happening at once and
just living for the moment, right.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, pretty much man, Yeah, all these new experiences and yeah,
it's a it's a lot of time way from home,
which that's probably the one part that people don't sort
of see and understand, which it was always the easiest.
But no, the Crooked was such good fun.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I'm really enjoying it.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Like I said, just being able to contribute to a
black Cats team that's bloody satisfying. So that's what dreams
are made off. So just yeah, taking as it comes.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, and we're all along for the ride as well.
Jacob Duffy, black CAP's extraordinary at the moment. Thanks very
much to your time on the muster. Keep out the
great work and make sure you get a bit of
a break over the festive season and we're really enjoying
work down here in the Deep South.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
No love it, mate, Thanks mate, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Jacob Duffy doing great things with the black Caps. At
the moment you're listening to the Muster, remember text it
South to five, double A nine to go And for
today's prize for the Muster Christmas give Away, Ben Dooley's
up next before we wrap up
That's why I've Scotch welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
This is the muster On Hakanui, our next guest. We
spoke to him a week while ago, and it's fair
to say that things have gone pretty dumb well for
him since his name is Jacob Duffy at the moment
leading the bowling attack for the black Caps and doing
a pretty darn good job of it as well. Jacob,
welcome once.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Again, Thanks any thanks's me.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
You're always good to catch up mate. Look firstly, these
stats for twenty and twenty five. You've probably heard them,
but they're pretty impressive. Reading thirty five matches, seventy two wickets,
seventeen point four to seven average, a twenty two point
twenty nine strike for eight five for thirty four of
your best figures. This is for the year twenty twenty five,
and the leading wicket taker an international cricket for twenty
(00:53):
twenty five seventy two wickets. Not as well, we'll throw
in those two five wicket bags against the Windy's recently.
That's pretty are going there.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
It's crazy, isn't it when you're sad like that? Yeah,
So it's just a dream just to play one game
for your country. And then you get on a wee
roll and start getting picked and stuff, and you sort
of expirations change a little bit. So it's just been awesome, man.
Just to be sort of a regular member and the team.
I think I've only this home summer especially, I've only
missed one game due to rest, so she had to
play every game has been awesome. And just to get
(01:23):
comfortable at international levels, it's such a cool feeling, man,
And just to be, you know, part of sort of
a winning team, a team that's doing well and playing
winning contributions as good.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
So considering you've stuck at the domestic game for so
long since twenty twelve, giving your opportunity of making it
work too still must be a real pinch me moment.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
It is, mate, Yeah, for sure. I always say it
like those years of my life. I guess that's that's
helped me so much and sort of easy as now
you know all that experience built up. Although it's at
a different level, it's still cricket the end of the day,
and now I played a lot of cricket, albeit domestic level.
I feel there's not many sort of scenarios of situations
or conditions that I haven't experienced before and now I'm
(02:06):
sort of I'm getting them at the international level. I
feel comfortable and know what to do and how to
sort of respond to those situations, which it's that huge
and you think it more and more like in the
domestic scene these days.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
You see like Michael Ray the other day debuted and he.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Come in and did really well. And obviously when Darryl
for It started he had a massive sort of domestic
experience mind has about to and now he's pressure internationally.
So that's good, you know, signed for our system and
domestic cricket and shows you how strong it is.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Well if you compare it to Australia and David Hussey's
and Michael Hussey, sorry's the one betsman that comes to mind.
Almost ten thousand runs domestically before you got a look
and into the Australian team. But to see that New
Zealand's getting debts and I suppose we can talk about
those injuries as well. Certainly been a lot going on,
but it just shows like you say that we're building
bowling debts, it isn't it.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
And there's not many dudes has come to play for
New Zealand in.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Recent years and just hasn't sort of now on a
hudge straight away again, Like I say, it's huge, it's
huge respect to sort of domestic game. But yeah, like
you know, there's a time there where there's obviously Sally
was a big one keeping the out of scene, but
you had Bolt and wagging the met Henry. Obviously these
are a great souri of game, but sort of just
how that spot for a sort of a decade plus
(03:19):
and you know that had to end one day and
I kind of has now. So it stime for the
next generation to step up, which you know, I think
we're doing all right.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, of course Michael Ray doing his thing the other
day as well, Zach Folks on the scene player taking
a unfortunately with that injury. But that's a staggering thing
about this one. The other day you did it a
player down.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, it's been a bit too much of that lately.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Only only one playdown, two bad mates, so better than
only even two. Seems like we didn't Hegley.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Which I'm not gonna lie. That sucks. That was too much.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
That was a lot of bowling and to get the
end of that Hegley game and only came out with
a drawer was pretty disheartening. So did you get across
the line this time? I think I know when text
went down, obviously we felt down, but we're also thinking,
oh god, here we go again. So he really turned
the game and that first innings with his spell, he
was brought the energy and got them jumping around and
(04:11):
his forkits were huge there, so that can't be understated.
But then I guess to go out on that, you
know that that third innings and do what we did
and get it done.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Reasonably quickly too.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Was was seriously satisfying and and good for the body
to get a future days off too.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
That's a big thing of being a frontline bowler and
bringing the energy as they call it, to the field,
and it must be a big It must be really
messive for you guys. Somebody like Michael Ray seems a
larger life personality, comes across really well and just brings
a little bit of X fact there. It must be
pretty cool on the field.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
That is. N he's a good friend of mine. I's
actually a gringeman at his wedding. He's He's obviously played
a lot of cricket for Tago, so we've gone really
well but here's here's a character. And especially anytime we
get the Solvely Mitch David as well, and it is
pretty special. Were getting the debutants come in for the
captain ceremonies and stuff. It's just sort of first time
going through all that, and you know, you sort of
(05:03):
make a big deal of it and they get their
hat and it's very special. And then yeah, even during
the game, you're just you're feeding off your energy. And
I'll be honest, mate, it's easier.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I guess it must be.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I know whether it's adrenaline or whatever it is, but
it's easy to get up to test cricket then learn
the domestic four day stuff, that's for sure. So your
body could be hurting a little bit more, but I
guess you just don't quite notice it because I guess
there's a little bit more on the line, and you know,
there's a bit of buzz in the crowd and you
get a bit of fizz and energy off that too.
So that's good fun and I'm really really enjoying it.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
So in your bowl, ninety two overs over two test matches,
So you can't tell me it doesn't take a toll
on the body.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Oh, defin.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, that first after that first game, I'm not gonna
I got up Like every spell I got up for
it wasn't too bad. I knew it had a job
to do, and a big part of that was bringing
like good energy, and I was buying a lot of
bounces on that sort of docile wicket, so I knew
I just had to bring good energy. But then those
two days I said, I felt like.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I would have by track.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
That was I my knees were a bit sore and
hobbed them out of bed in the morning.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I got tended off.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
The on my knees, So I'm just dealing with that constantly.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
So that played up.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
But then I guess there was the day before it
was finally the day I felt okay. And then yeah,
it probably showed that day one of that last year
that exactly as well. We're both a little bit flat
that first spell, but sort of once we got into
the rhythm of the game and stuff and brought a
bit of more energy, we're sort of underway again.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I thought we did have You had to reassesss your
goals based on the way that things have gone this season.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Ah, No, not really.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I'm not a big goal setter in that regard. I
just sort of, you know, I'm joining the rides. I'm
trying to just keep improving sort of every day, and
that's the main thing. I've got a few different work
on in terms of sort of my whitefool game, whether
it be Slavs or death Execution, all that kind of stuff,
and then a little few work onto the repul. I
guess that's sort of the goals I have in my mind.
(06:58):
I don't really have sort of you know, games played
or the selections all that kind of stuff. I sort
of just stick to my stick to my own stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Your name's being meeting quite a bit regarding the ip
O loction coming up this week, Jacob, would you be
keen to be involved?
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Uh? Yeah, it's a funny one. We because we obviously
we've got to India for a tour just for the
World Cup, so and then the World Cup goes for
abo a month, so it's already two months in India straight,
and then I guess if you made the OPR you'd
go for another two and a half months straight after that,
So you've got four and a half months in India straight,
which is a long time away from home, So yeah,
(07:38):
it'll be very cool and it'll be an amazing experience
and obviously you know there's the money and stuff will
be pretty tall. But on the other hand, if I
didn't go, but a time at home wouldn't be the
worst thing in the world either. Two's obviously what's coming up,
big tests and stuff next year, So I'm doing it
as a win each way. If if I do, I
do it. Then if I don't, I don't. Happy days
and we can do other stuff. So yeah, that is
(07:59):
a bit of a us anyone to us Jacob.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
From a player's perspective, there's no more Red Bull cricket
after the Third Test against the Windys this week. Is
it a bit of a letdown after what we've had
over the last couple of weeks? And what is it?
No Red Bull cricket again until against England?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Is that right? Yeah? England and Ireland first and then
Englandland May June.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah, I don't know, I guess yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Some people absolutely love the Red Bull.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
I sort of like, I kind of love it all.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
So I really enjoyed the twenty twenty stuff. Touring India
is a pretty special place to go, so I've hardly said,
it's a letdown, and obviously with an ICC event a
World Cup on the horizon too, that's never I've never
been to a rod Cup before, so I've done the
Champions Trophy you last year, but I've never done the
World Cup. So World Cup in India is pretty special.
So I can't say it's a let down there.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I dare say, you're just so like you say, you're
just soaking everything in. It's all happening at once and
just living for the moment, right.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, pretty much man, Yeah, all these new experiences and yeah,
it's a it's a lot of time way from home,
which that's probably the one part that people don't sort
of see and understand, which it was always the easiest.
But no, the Crooked was such good fun.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I'm really enjoying it.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Like I said, just being able to contribute to a
black Cats team that's bloody satisfying. So that's what dreams
are made off. So just yeah, taking as it comes.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, and we're all along for the ride as well.
Jacob Duffy, black CAP's extraordinary at the moment. Thanks very
much to your time on the muster. Keep out the
great work and make sure you get a bit of
a break over the festive season and we're really enjoying
work down here in the Deep South.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
No love it, mate, Thanks mate, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Jacob Duffy doing great things with the black Caps. At
the moment you're listening to the Muster, remember text it
South to five, double A nine to go And for
today's prize for the Muster Christmas give Away, Ben Dooley's
up next before we wrap up
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