October 14, 2025 • 9 mins
James Edgar says the positives in the farming sector need to be enjoyed as these wins don't occur every day.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
James Egga fans of mar fled and joins us once again. James,
good afternoon. How are you. How's the metal?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It's going well actually at the moment we're nice and
grain in my grand grass now, which.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Is quite a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
So nos, seventy six eight days of various crops gone
in so far, so getting through the groundwork.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
So I think we've.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Got another forty or soto of the blackground to do,
so yeah, getting well through that now.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
And we've got a bit of tailing to do.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
And I'm doing some deer work today, so bring all
the hons in and put them on their phoning blocks
or still.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Actually gave the phones.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
On them because I don't have enough pedus. I'll rip
them off and start velveting today too. So yeah, it's
always good when it's all going.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
You're doing well to get through the groundwork considering the season.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, I'm not saying we got perfectly. We dragged the
strict drilled straight into the blackground this year because it
was such a dry winter. Haven't made too much of
a mess. And yeah, I don't know, there'll be there'll
be various opinions there and the bend all the easier,
absolutely advocate of the plow, and but especially had lighter
(01:22):
soils on hill your country, I mean, their Panics aren't
late anyway, And yeah, I just like to get the
crops in so possibly counting a few corners, but yeah,
I find we don't get there sometimes when you get
rain events and you've worked this ail up on sort
of you know, hell country, it runs off into the.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Creeks and things. So yeah, there's a variety of reasons
we do it.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
And yeah, not a five minute job to work up
work up one hundred hectares either, So yes, the way
we choose to do it.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
So we'll see how how the results pain out, I suppose.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
So your tailing tell us to date how they be?
Are you happy? You're never happy tailing must be honest.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah, no, I thought I thought they looked pretty solid. Actually,
is what I think. We'll be a lot better, a
lot further up than last year. Last year.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Last year just kept getting worse. As you've kept going
through the tailing tellies. It was just the lambs weren't
adding up, and you knew you hadn't had a very
good year, and it only got worse.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
That wasn't much fun. So hopefully we go the other
way this.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Year, but I don't think we'll set any records, but
it'll be Yeah, just what we need to be fear,
just a nice solid tailing.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Benisons schedules are looking pretty dwn good.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, well it's lovely.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
We had the beef and m a GM yesterday and yeah,
all the red meat prices are gone game busters at
the moment, which is great. They've sort of probably been
a reflection of the whole world went. You know, I've
got a lot more environmentally friendly, which we all agree with.
But one of the impacts there is was the carbon
(02:54):
and methane and all the other things. It's been a
massive dropping livestock numbers around the whole world. So when
I'm starting to really see that reflected and schedule prices,
so I guess there's a silver lining and all the
stuff we had to deal.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
With a few years ago.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And well remember this, James, six months ago, you're the
guy walking around with a T shirt adamant we needed
ten dollars for LAMB. We've currently got that. Have you
changed your chain?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
No, absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
In fact, it's actually got better than that, because I
think I said twelve dollars top of the season and
ten dollars bottom. And I think we're currently sitting just
over eleven dollars for lamb. I'm here in the markets
are paying that, so that's good and well, it'll be
interesting to see with the companies. Well, I think it's
probably reflection not keeping the chains fall if they're not
(03:44):
making money, but because they can't really fill the contracts
for the guys that want all their meat. No, I
think that's the number we've got to have, and to
be feared really changes sheep farming really quickly. Sheep and
beef farming those sort of prices. So it let us
let's us compete with forestry and cabin farming. It let's
us compete on the right country with dairy farming too
(04:05):
and dairy support. So that's really exciting.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
We'll talk about the beef and lambs Southern South Island.
Agm usaid, of course you were there, you've you've been
part of the council. Full credit as well to term
fits even back in the day to clear for OA
met and everybody. Great afternoon, put on really interesting speakers
and just overall the positivity regarding what's happening in the sector.
I think it needs to be acknowledged.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, absolutely, that was really good. I thought kateick Clinton,
she was a bit of a highlight of thought in person.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
She kept off really well, really smart woman.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
So ship out there and the work they did in
behind with the grass and the reason why the prices
were high, and that was a really really positive day.
You actually least they're thinking, yeah, willing to put the
last five percent in all the things because you you know,
you just felt you felt enthusiastic and excited, which we
should as an industry. Yeah, after being sort of attacked
(04:59):
on all sides. But no, that profitability thing, there's been
a number one, number one thing to work on and
now we're back. You know, I just don't think you'll
see the same amount of trees going around. Is the
better farmers keep getting better, they'll be you know, looking
to expand or doing different.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Bits and pieces.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
So that's really exciting Tom to be a farmer.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Andy.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I think the only thing perhaps concerning regarding Kate's figures though,
was if we were to have a change of government
next year, listening to Damian O'Connor and what happens in
regards of these new new methane targets that nationals and
sure the coalition government has introduced and what gets undone
then and what goes on because the figure was banded
(05:42):
around twenty percent of sheep and beef farm goes x
amount of dairy farms. But I don't know, Labor just
don't seem to acknowledge that.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
No, they tried very hard to make us go broke
not very long ago, didn't they. Andy, So I think
you would find a slightly more family farmer friendly labor
government because yeah, though towns are still hurting, you really
need the rule sector to be strong so we can
feed it all back through our local rural communities and
then it gets fed back through the cities. And I
think that's what we'll find. So I'm probably slightly more
(06:12):
optimistic than that. But yeah, sometimes sometimes it's nice just
to enjoy a nice day on the farm and not
think too many politics. And because it's pretty hard to
make change, isn't it, I guess, And someone's just got
to control what you can control.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, probably a pretty pragmatic way to look at things
as well. We'll touching this briefly to the ge bill.
The conversation was had yesterday and a gentleman in the
crowd he asked for a show of hands regarding who
supported it going through, and it seemed to be about
fifty to fifty. It was a very random poll considering
where it was taken, but it's certainly something that continues
to divide.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, no, it was.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
There was a few questions from the crowd around around
the GE. Probably there pointed towards a negative view of it,
I guess, And yeah, my view is you can't change science.
That's not to say we're going to do it, but
you've got to look at all science and look at
all technology and keep moving forward. I mean, there was
(07:11):
a real worry in the room that roost of the
world wouldn't take care of product if we had some
ge involved in it. I guess that's not a worry
for me. If you look at the US and Australia,
like most of the crops in the world are all
ge crops grown. So it would be a little bit
ironic for those markets to turn around and says GE,
so we don't want your product because all the local
(07:33):
product is all g of some description. I thought they
were worried about the value premiums around GE and if
there was none, why are we doing it? And I
think the point was missed there. The real advantage of GE,
in my mind, is not so much in the animal
science world. It's actually in the plant science. If we
(07:55):
can get like a rye grass plant that is more
resistance to a grass grub or perina or the heads
lease or you know, stays doesn't go reproductive as much
all of the above, that's where I see the real
benefit of the rye grass. Well, you know the plant
science ge debate. Yeah, just using less least chemicals which
(08:20):
would drop farm costs. Yeah, by using those products. So
that's that's my my five cents on that. But I mean, yeah,
I'd like to see some more more information and more
science before I fully made my mind up. But you know,
I'm certainly opening and.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Open to the idea of of this ge rye grass.
I think he's on.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Scientists are actually doing somebody they have to go overseas
to do their trials. I don't think I'm wrong on
that one. So yeah, it would be interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Just finally, you're a tiger is going to do the
business over bath plenty on Friday night?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Absolutely, Well, I know you're giving me a bit of
cheek there when you won the round for an the
Mighty helf and stags, I thought you turned the corner
of it. Now, yeah, the murdy the mighty Oh, looks
like she's going to go all the way.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
If you asked me put the health.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
On it, well I wouldn't. I wouldn't exactly put the
health on it. But we'll see here. We might put
some methane targets on it and stead there. James, So
you always appreciate your time. Cheers many, James Egger of
Mo Flat. You're listening to the Master up next Jared
Stockman elderian Z
James Egga fans of mar fled and joins us once again. James,
good afternoon. How are you. How's the metal?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It's going well actually at the moment we're nice and
grain in my grand grass now, which.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Is quite a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
So nos, seventy six eight days of various crops gone
in so far, so getting through the groundwork.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
So I think we've.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Got another forty or soto of the blackground to do,
so yeah, getting well through that now.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
And we've got a bit of tailing to do.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
And I'm doing some deer work today, so bring all
the hons in and put them on their phoning blocks
or still.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Actually gave the phones.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
On them because I don't have enough pedus. I'll rip
them off and start velveting today too. So yeah, it's
always good when it's all going.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
You're doing well to get through the groundwork considering the season.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, I'm not saying we got perfectly. We dragged the
strict drilled straight into the blackground this year because it
was such a dry winter. Haven't made too much of
a mess. And yeah, I don't know, there'll be there'll
be various opinions there and the bend all the easier,
absolutely advocate of the plow, and but especially had lighter
(01:22):
soils on hill your country, I mean, their Panics aren't
late anyway, And yeah, I just like to get the
crops in so possibly counting a few corners, but yeah,
I find we don't get there sometimes when you get
rain events and you've worked this ail up on sort
of you know, hell country, it runs off into the.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Creeks and things. So yeah, there's a variety of reasons
we do it.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
And yeah, not a five minute job to work up
work up one hundred hectares either, So yes, the way
we choose to do it.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
So we'll see how how the results pain out, I suppose.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
So your tailing tell us to date how they be?
Are you happy? You're never happy tailing must be honest.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah, no, I thought I thought they looked pretty solid. Actually,
is what I think. We'll be a lot better, a
lot further up than last year. Last year.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Last year just kept getting worse. As you've kept going
through the tailing tellies. It was just the lambs weren't
adding up, and you knew you hadn't had a very
good year, and it only got worse.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
That wasn't much fun. So hopefully we go the other
way this.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Year, but I don't think we'll set any records, but
it'll be Yeah, just what we need to be fear,
just a nice solid tailing.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Benisons schedules are looking pretty dwn good.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, well it's lovely.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
We had the beef and m a GM yesterday and yeah,
all the red meat prices are gone game busters at
the moment, which is great. They've sort of probably been
a reflection of the whole world went. You know, I've
got a lot more environmentally friendly, which we all agree with.
But one of the impacts there is was the carbon
(02:54):
and methane and all the other things. It's been a
massive dropping livestock numbers around the whole world. So when
I'm starting to really see that reflected and schedule prices,
so I guess there's a silver lining and all the
stuff we had to deal.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
With a few years ago.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And well remember this, James, six months ago, you're the
guy walking around with a T shirt adamant we needed
ten dollars for LAMB. We've currently got that. Have you
changed your chain?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
No, absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
In fact, it's actually got better than that, because I
think I said twelve dollars top of the season and
ten dollars bottom. And I think we're currently sitting just
over eleven dollars for lamb. I'm here in the markets
are paying that, so that's good and well, it'll be
interesting to see with the companies. Well, I think it's
probably reflection not keeping the chains fall if they're not
(03:44):
making money, but because they can't really fill the contracts
for the guys that want all their meat. No, I
think that's the number we've got to have, and to
be feared really changes sheep farming really quickly. Sheep and
beef farming those sort of prices. So it let us
let's us compete with forestry and cabin farming. It let's
us compete on the right country with dairy farming too
(04:05):
and dairy support. So that's really exciting.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
We'll talk about the beef and lambs Southern South Island.
Agm usaid, of course you were there, you've you've been
part of the council. Full credit as well to term
fits even back in the day to clear for OA
met and everybody. Great afternoon, put on really interesting speakers
and just overall the positivity regarding what's happening in the sector.
I think it needs to be acknowledged.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, absolutely, that was really good. I thought kateick Clinton,
she was a bit of a highlight of thought in person.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
She kept off really well, really smart woman.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
So ship out there and the work they did in
behind with the grass and the reason why the prices
were high, and that was a really really positive day.
You actually least they're thinking, yeah, willing to put the
last five percent in all the things because you you know,
you just felt you felt enthusiastic and excited, which we
should as an industry. Yeah, after being sort of attacked
(04:59):
on all sides. But no, that profitability thing, there's been
a number one, number one thing to work on and
now we're back. You know, I just don't think you'll
see the same amount of trees going around. Is the
better farmers keep getting better, they'll be you know, looking
to expand or doing different.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Bits and pieces.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
So that's really exciting Tom to be a farmer.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Andy.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I think the only thing perhaps concerning regarding Kate's figures though,
was if we were to have a change of government
next year, listening to Damian O'Connor and what happens in
regards of these new new methane targets that nationals and
sure the coalition government has introduced and what gets undone
then and what goes on because the figure was banded
(05:42):
around twenty percent of sheep and beef farm goes x
amount of dairy farms. But I don't know, Labor just
don't seem to acknowledge that.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
No, they tried very hard to make us go broke
not very long ago, didn't they. Andy, So I think
you would find a slightly more family farmer friendly labor
government because yeah, though towns are still hurting, you really
need the rule sector to be strong so we can
feed it all back through our local rural communities and
then it gets fed back through the cities. And I
think that's what we'll find. So I'm probably slightly more
(06:12):
optimistic than that. But yeah, sometimes sometimes it's nice just
to enjoy a nice day on the farm and not
think too many politics. And because it's pretty hard to
make change, isn't it, I guess, And someone's just got
to control what you can control.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, probably a pretty pragmatic way to look at things
as well. We'll touching this briefly to the ge bill.
The conversation was had yesterday and a gentleman in the
crowd he asked for a show of hands regarding who
supported it going through, and it seemed to be about
fifty to fifty. It was a very random poll considering
where it was taken, but it's certainly something that continues
to divide.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, no, it was.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
There was a few questions from the crowd around around
the GE. Probably there pointed towards a negative view of it,
I guess, And yeah, my view is you can't change science.
That's not to say we're going to do it, but
you've got to look at all science and look at
all technology and keep moving forward. I mean, there was
(07:11):
a real worry in the room that roost of the
world wouldn't take care of product if we had some
ge involved in it. I guess that's not a worry
for me. If you look at the US and Australia,
like most of the crops in the world are all
ge crops grown. So it would be a little bit
ironic for those markets to turn around and says GE,
so we don't want your product because all the local
(07:33):
product is all g of some description. I thought they
were worried about the value premiums around GE and if
there was none, why are we doing it? And I
think the point was missed there. The real advantage of GE,
in my mind, is not so much in the animal
science world. It's actually in the plant science. If we
(07:55):
can get like a rye grass plant that is more
resistance to a grass grub or perina or the heads
lease or you know, stays doesn't go reproductive as much
all of the above, that's where I see the real
benefit of the rye grass. Well, you know the plant
science ge debate. Yeah, just using less least chemicals which
(08:20):
would drop farm costs. Yeah, by using those products. So
that's that's my my five cents on that. But I mean, yeah,
I'd like to see some more more information and more
science before I fully made my mind up. But you know,
I'm certainly opening and.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Open to the idea of of this ge rye grass.
I think he's on.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Scientists are actually doing somebody they have to go overseas
to do their trials. I don't think I'm wrong on
that one. So yeah, it would be interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Just finally, you're a tiger is going to do the
business over bath plenty on Friday night?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Absolutely, Well, I know you're giving me a bit of
cheek there when you won the round for an the
Mighty helf and stags, I thought you turned the corner
of it. Now, yeah, the murdy the mighty Oh, looks
like she's going to go all the way.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
If you asked me put the health.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
On it, well I wouldn't. I wouldn't exactly put the
health on it. But we'll see here. We might put
some methane targets on it and stead there. James, So
you always appreciate your time. Cheers many, James Egger of
Mo Flat. You're listening to the Master up next Jared
Stockman elderian Z
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