October 19, 2025 • 7 mins
Jamie says leadership needs to be addressed concerning the red meat sector with the Alliance proposal with Dawn Meats being announced.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Jamie King Farms are like Herroco and joins us this
afternoon in the Sergeant Dan Farming ground out. Thanks for
Sergeant Dan stock foods here and go Jamie. Good afternoon, dear,
I ask what is the weather doing?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Now? I'll just listen that interest song Andy and I've
done a bit of love, mate. But the weather's going
to be start so you can get some lost choices,
that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Well you said before the weather can get its head
from out of its proverbial and actually start playing ball
for a change.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, wow, mate, I think we're all about two thirds
away through springing and I think we've still got winter. Yeah,
I've got to extend a daylight airs, but that's about
all the airs at the moment. It's pretty voluntil morning
and night. And I've got a river bank to bank
and everything needs flippers and snorkels again, which is challenging.
But that's all right, you sort of. It's been for
(00:52):
the last six weeks getting excited to get something done
off the becca winter and just mother NX is not
really playing the game.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
So we're about say you as far as the October
workload at the moment, I mean, have you even got tailing.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Nah, no, I whan he moved to the tailing peen mate.
There's a few lambs that need tail they get in there.
Started playing a bit of velvet off the other day,
and that's it's going to be a challenge of season
with selling us. And it's well, it's just gone through
the motions. Really, I'm trying to get some cereal and
I'm not lucky enough to even look at starting that yet.
(01:27):
And yeah, so you get some calves, the better the
marked and what you say, the tailor in the way,
but you sort of start chomping at the bit, but
you just can't do much. Plenty of workshop jobs.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
You just got to keep on keeping on us use yeah,
oh we.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Love We were here this one last year too, weren't we.
Oh so we've had a few more sanchoan airs I
suppose this spring, so probably a little bit of sheading
grass growth that. Yeah, it just doesn't make get anything
else done any easier.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
What would you say your own fall has been so
far for the previous six weeks I think.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Twenty eighth August Mate, well up to about a week ago,
we're just show a four hundred mil I think, Yeah,
so it wud be about four eighty now, because I
mean we had a twenty five million you're on whenever
that was Friday night? Said that, yeah, Friday night and
then yeah do you said we've had another two inches
something again. M she's a battle, but that's all right.
(02:24):
It's fickle and talking. A couple of combers up in
North Canterbury and they just had a guts full of
Northeasters pivots again and they're still getting frosts and it's
getting blown around. So there's one thing for sure, Andy,
there's no silver bullets in agriculture. So you just got
to you think your beds, you paste everything around and
have a catch up with some people, just to because
(02:44):
everyone's got their different different fights.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah, we're talking to Craig wiggy Wigans later on in
the Yellow. A great point you bring out there, Jamie,
just about collaborating, connecting with your mates, having a yarn,
having a shan, chewing the fact, go around, have a stubby,
have a coffee, do whatever, and just keep in touch
with people.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Right. Yeah, I've seen Ord. Just go for a drive mate,
you know, you know we're just different headed. What it
is over your way and what have you is? Maybe
not today, but it's always good. That's yeah. We're creatures
of socialness, the human beings that pace to pace to
keep talking because, like you say, you think it's been
in your camp, but it's always someone else has always
(03:19):
got other things going on. It's gonna be bad everywhere,
so you just got to just keep talking. And they
can't rain forever, Indy, and then little sun will be
out and we'll won't even know what we're thinking about.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
How does your lamb drop?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
See that looks pretty good?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Some good lambs getting around. Yeah, for the most part,
pretty good. New condition is probably a little bit better
than what we've someting anticipated. I'm cheating them in a
condition off some cows at the moment. Just they haven't
quite got the covers head of them as what they need.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
And the happiest stock class to be fear of the homes.
They sort of spread out now and living the dream.
But yeah, other lamb drop looks pretty good. I might
probably be. I don't think it'll be the record breaker,
but it won't be any worse than last year, so yeah,
it'll be what it'll be. Now.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
The Alliance group, it sounds as though we find out
tomorrow morning. What happens regarding this Dawn Meets announcement. What's
your get feeling on this, Jamie, the people you speak to,
what are you thinking is going to change tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Well, I see they've got they've passed the seventy five
percent threshold of the writer turn out from all accounts.
So we'll wait and see. I've met gat thing. I
think it will go. Yes, interesting enough, I see all
meets have come out with a bit more money, which
is they obviously want it pretty badly, but for right
(04:39):
or wrong, not long term. Men, you're I don't know
if it's a good thing for the New Zealand meat sector.
A lot of offshore money and they can squash us
for a little fellow on the global table. As it
is that short term. I suppose it needs to happen
at the end of the day, mate, when the banks
want their money. The banks want their money. It's the
one that's getting team when you take loans out, as
(05:01):
they want to back some part of it. So, like
you say, just going back ten years ago, we've a
full sighted a bit of ACCOUNTA believe some board directors
would have been quite nice. We possibly wouldn't have been
in this situation. But I can't look back, Andy, so
we'll just box on and see what happens.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I suppose we've talked about this before, Jamie having a
collaboration of Silverfarin Farms and a lionce group, for example.
Are changes to the red meat industry in New Zealand
about people talking about this being the catalyst for change.
This should have happened back in twenty fifteen, a lot
of people's opinions to form a super cooperative for the
red meat sector. Do you think anything changes tomorrow, regardless
(05:38):
of what way the vote goes.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Ah, I don't know, mate, Yeah, so would be good.
You need competition, to Andy, Yeah, from private guys, because
you've from the private guys only got a bit more
on the line than some directors that we will board
members that you just vote on there. Yeah, I don't know.
(06:01):
I don't know, mate. Crystal ball grades and there's no
new norm there, just yeah, there is what it is.
But declining red meat numbers it might be a great thing.
I don't know. The world needs protein, but we send
to have done a terrific job of excluding ourselves from
what's going on the world. Stage in this country since
well arguably you know, pre COVID days, we'll were in
(06:23):
that twenty twenty mark. So we don't We'll wait and see,
We'll wait and see. I think it's all unknown ground.
But there's other meat companies out there and their books
aren't trading that good either. You know, we're still probably
over capitalized ably. Bit. Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
You just sound frustrated at the lack of leadership in
the industry.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I've been time mate. I mean, yeah, it's you know,
there's another aspect of it. Velvet thing is interesting one
at the moment. You know, we've ha a huge a
lot of that floating around and you know, taining one
market and it's all coming back and we're getting told
what we need to do here in New Zealand and
grading and grown and what have you. And I said, well,
how about you guys get off your backsides and go
and sell it into another market, do something else. We'll
(07:06):
get a bit of entrepreneurs about it. What else can
we do with it? You know, like just suffers from
New Zealand. Guys got this tall poppy syndrome. You know,
it's a real sit in the corner and pick yourselves
on the back and say how good you are. But
I mean that only flies for so long, and it's
twenty twenty five, nineteen ninety five anymore, so people just
start thinking outside the box a little bit more of it.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Good only, Jamie. We'll catch up in due course, and
interesting to see how tomorrow wins up.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
A hey, but don't appreciate that any Good on you men, Jamie.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
King of Lake Heroko and the Sergeant Dan Farming ground up.
Thanks for Sergeant Dan stock foods here and go. Joseph
Mooney in Peter South and we speak next.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
This is the Muster
Jamie King Farms are like Herroco and joins us this
afternoon in the Sergeant Dan Farming ground out. Thanks for
Sergeant Dan stock foods here and go Jamie. Good afternoon, dear,
I ask what is the weather doing?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Now? I'll just listen that interest song Andy and I've
done a bit of love, mate. But the weather's going
to be start so you can get some lost choices,
that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Well you said before the weather can get its head
from out of its proverbial and actually start playing ball
for a change.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, wow, mate, I think we're all about two thirds
away through springing and I think we've still got winter. Yeah,
I've got to extend a daylight airs, but that's about
all the airs at the moment. It's pretty voluntil morning
and night. And I've got a river bank to bank
and everything needs flippers and snorkels again, which is challenging.
But that's all right, you sort of. It's been for
(00:52):
the last six weeks getting excited to get something done
off the becca winter and just mother NX is not
really playing the game.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
So we're about say you as far as the October
workload at the moment, I mean, have you even got tailing.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Nah, no, I whan he moved to the tailing peen mate.
There's a few lambs that need tail they get in there.
Started playing a bit of velvet off the other day,
and that's it's going to be a challenge of season
with selling us. And it's well, it's just gone through
the motions. Really, I'm trying to get some cereal and
I'm not lucky enough to even look at starting that yet.
(01:27):
And yeah, so you get some calves, the better the
marked and what you say, the tailor in the way,
but you sort of start chomping at the bit, but
you just can't do much. Plenty of workshop jobs.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
You just got to keep on keeping on us use yeah,
oh we.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Love We were here this one last year too, weren't we.
Oh so we've had a few more sanchoan airs I
suppose this spring, so probably a little bit of sheading
grass growth that. Yeah, it just doesn't make get anything
else done any easier.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
What would you say your own fall has been so
far for the previous six weeks I think.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Twenty eighth August Mate, well up to about a week ago,
we're just show a four hundred mil I think, Yeah,
so it wud be about four eighty now, because I
mean we had a twenty five million you're on whenever
that was Friday night? Said that, yeah, Friday night and
then yeah do you said we've had another two inches
something again. M she's a battle, but that's all right.
(02:24):
It's fickle and talking. A couple of combers up in
North Canterbury and they just had a guts full of
Northeasters pivots again and they're still getting frosts and it's
getting blown around. So there's one thing for sure, Andy,
there's no silver bullets in agriculture. So you just got
to you think your beds, you paste everything around and
have a catch up with some people, just to because
(02:44):
everyone's got their different different fights.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah, we're talking to Craig wiggy Wigans later on in
the Yellow. A great point you bring out there, Jamie,
just about collaborating, connecting with your mates, having a yarn,
having a shan, chewing the fact, go around, have a stubby,
have a coffee, do whatever, and just keep in touch
with people.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Right. Yeah, I've seen Ord. Just go for a drive mate,
you know, you know we're just different headed. What it
is over your way and what have you is? Maybe
not today, but it's always good. That's yeah. We're creatures
of socialness, the human beings that pace to pace to
keep talking because, like you say, you think it's been
in your camp, but it's always someone else has always
(03:19):
got other things going on. It's gonna be bad everywhere,
so you just got to just keep talking. And they
can't rain forever, Indy, and then little sun will be
out and we'll won't even know what we're thinking about.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
How does your lamb drop?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
See that looks pretty good?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Some good lambs getting around. Yeah, for the most part,
pretty good. New condition is probably a little bit better
than what we've someting anticipated. I'm cheating them in a
condition off some cows at the moment. Just they haven't
quite got the covers head of them as what they need.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
And the happiest stock class to be fear of the homes.
They sort of spread out now and living the dream.
But yeah, other lamb drop looks pretty good. I might
probably be. I don't think it'll be the record breaker,
but it won't be any worse than last year, so yeah,
it'll be what it'll be. Now.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
The Alliance group, it sounds as though we find out
tomorrow morning. What happens regarding this Dawn Meets announcement. What's
your get feeling on this, Jamie, the people you speak to,
what are you thinking is going to change tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Well, I see they've got they've passed the seventy five
percent threshold of the writer turn out from all accounts.
So we'll wait and see. I've met gat thing. I
think it will go. Yes, interesting enough, I see all
meets have come out with a bit more money, which
is they obviously want it pretty badly, but for right
(04:39):
or wrong, not long term. Men, you're I don't know
if it's a good thing for the New Zealand meat sector.
A lot of offshore money and they can squash us
for a little fellow on the global table. As it
is that short term. I suppose it needs to happen
at the end of the day, mate, when the banks
want their money. The banks want their money. It's the
one that's getting team when you take loans out, as
(05:01):
they want to back some part of it. So, like
you say, just going back ten years ago, we've a
full sighted a bit of ACCOUNTA believe some board directors
would have been quite nice. We possibly wouldn't have been
in this situation. But I can't look back, Andy, so
we'll just box on and see what happens.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I suppose we've talked about this before, Jamie having a
collaboration of Silverfarin Farms and a lionce group, for example.
Are changes to the red meat industry in New Zealand
about people talking about this being the catalyst for change.
This should have happened back in twenty fifteen, a lot
of people's opinions to form a super cooperative for the
red meat sector. Do you think anything changes tomorrow, regardless
(05:38):
of what way the vote goes.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Ah, I don't know, mate, Yeah, so would be good.
You need competition, to Andy, Yeah, from private guys, because
you've from the private guys only got a bit more
on the line than some directors that we will board
members that you just vote on there. Yeah, I don't know.
(06:01):
I don't know, mate. Crystal ball grades and there's no
new norm there, just yeah, there is what it is.
But declining red meat numbers it might be a great thing.
I don't know. The world needs protein, but we send
to have done a terrific job of excluding ourselves from
what's going on the world. Stage in this country since
well arguably you know, pre COVID days, we'll were in
(06:23):
that twenty twenty mark. So we don't We'll wait and see,
We'll wait and see. I think it's all unknown ground.
But there's other meat companies out there and their books
aren't trading that good either. You know, we're still probably
over capitalized ably. Bit. Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
You just sound frustrated at the lack of leadership in
the industry.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I've been time mate. I mean, yeah, it's you know,
there's another aspect of it. Velvet thing is interesting one
at the moment. You know, we've ha a huge a
lot of that floating around and you know, taining one
market and it's all coming back and we're getting told
what we need to do here in New Zealand and
grading and grown and what have you. And I said, well,
how about you guys get off your backsides and go
and sell it into another market, do something else. We'll
(07:06):
get a bit of entrepreneurs about it. What else can
we do with it? You know, like just suffers from
New Zealand. Guys got this tall poppy syndrome. You know,
it's a real sit in the corner and pick yourselves
on the back and say how good you are. But
I mean that only flies for so long, and it's
twenty twenty five, nineteen ninety five anymore, so people just
start thinking outside the box a little bit more of it.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Good only, Jamie. We'll catch up in due course, and
interesting to see how tomorrow wins up.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
A hey, but don't appreciate that any Good on you men, Jamie.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
King of Lake Heroko and the Sergeant Dan Farming ground up.
Thanks for Sergeant Dan stock foods here and go. Joseph
Mooney in Peter South and we speak next.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
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