September 4, 2025 • 9 mins
Jamie Mackay wants the Stags winning streak to continue over Canterbury tomorrow at Rugby Park.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
In this began supporterst Off Miles around.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
We got the heart.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
It's time for the country crossover. If Jamie McKay hosts
of the Country Jamie, good afternoon. Jason Carrison put that
south and so we had a couple of years ago.
But this one is the true Stags anthem for me,
the sweet Eaters and the Roaring Pen from back in
nineteen ninety eight. Good afternoon.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Ye absolutely agree with you, Jerry Wonders, with Steph and
Hayes involved with that one as well, Yes, yes, he was. Yeah,
that is the true Stags anthem. I'll give you that one.
And Great Southland to Jeremy Wonders.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Well absolutely and Hazy as well. Now what a hell
of a week has been down here in the South.
We burgled the shield off woy kaddo and down here
it's just oh man, everyone's just gone round pretty shield
nuts and rightly so. But the great thing is it's
captured the imagination of the MPC.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Well, it's captured the imagination Andy of the rest of
the country, because I can tell you from people I've
been talking to right around the country and including the
young Farmer of the Year Hugh Jackson, who was at
the Shield Challenge game in his Stags shirt last weekend
and along with George Dodson. They're both Stags fans, no
(01:21):
doubt from their time down South. But the rest of
the country wants the fairy tale to continue. They want
the Stags to win this game because, let's face it,
I mean, Canterbury and Auckland having the Shield yawn or
Wellington yawn, or even White Katto for that matter, yawn
Yorn yawn, it's not appreciated. I mean that was reflected
(01:42):
in those in the Whitecadow effort to be perfectly honest.
So I would love to see South and hold it
over the summer. It's going to be a push obviously
against Canterbury tomorrow. Tab doesn't give them much of a chance,
but gee, the way they've manfully defended their line and
just you know, just the aggression that big number twelve penny.
(02:03):
How good was that? Well?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
People tend to forget as well when this guy came
to South and it started last year on a trial contract.
I remind you on that as well. He was Auckland
Club Player of the Year two years in a row.
So the guy had four but he was just an
unknown quantity quality. Sorry, going under the radar as such.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I wouldn't mind if he was at he jumped on
a plane straight after the game and went to Eden
Park and played there as well, because honestly, that amount
of size and he's obviously an aggressive man, God bless him.
But the other thing is he's got deft touches. You
saw some of his kicking skills, he's got passing skills.
I mean, there's the guy they knocked the rough edges
(02:43):
off him. There's a future all black midfielder and the
big number eight whose name I can never pronounce.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
So messy Tupo.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Well done, Andy, well done. Because my heroes from the
Shield Challenge were two for six and eight. Jack Taylor done.
She Sean Withy the number eight and number twelve. Although
I must say another hero and he's a good local boy.
I thought Morgan Mitchell was outstanding as well.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I had Morgie in studio on Wednesday and I said
to him about the tab numbers and he just smiled
and goes and that's the way we like it. So
these guys realize they're not going to be favorites at
the tab. But look, it all stemmed back from that
twenty two nil deficit against menow two when I've seen
that scoreline, because I was at a function that night
and I was ready to get the Choppers, ready to
go up and just blow up Raby Park and start
(03:32):
again next thing. They won the darn game. Then they've
gone away and beating Bay of Plenty away for goodness sake.
Who are finalists last year? And now they got the shield.
I gave them a better chance of winning tomorrow than
I do the ull Wax Leadham Park.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Well, it's interesting, and I've been getting quite a few
messages and texts saying, come on, Mackai, what are your
true colors, Stags or the All Blacks? If you've got
to pick one, well, it's a no contest for me.
And even though I'm a Patriot, it's the Stags for me.
So let's just clear that one up. The only thing
I would say about Eden Park, if you'd ask me
eight days ago or two weeks ago, sorry, whether the
(04:09):
All Blacks would win at Edon Park, I'd say I
don't think so, but history reminds us that the All
Blacks always come back really strongly after a loss, especially
a bad loss. And for what it's worth I don't
mind the team that they've picked. Not everyone agrees with it,
but we have our own bomb squad sitting on the bench.
(04:32):
We have got some huge In fact, our top two
props from last season are sitting on the bench. Takeiaho's
got real impact with the ball in hand late in
the game. Fabian Holland, a huge piece of beat, is
going to come on and inject himself physically into that game.
And then you've got duple sed Carethi who will be very,
(04:53):
very valuable i'd think, competing with the likes of Quaga
Smith in the last twenty minutes. So we've got our
bomb squad. I'm not so much worried about our forwards.
It's perhaps more our backs and this young Kyle Preston
who's come from nowhere to be the fifth choice All
Black halfback. You know, like the pressure is going to
(05:14):
be on that young man if he gets on, and
especially if he gets on early.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I think Aden Park it almost comes down to handling
pressure and then one other thing for me as well
as goalkicking. Andre Pollard one of the best. Boden Barrett
arguably not a bad goalkicker, but I don't think he's
a Andre Pollard, but the pressure of Eden Park that
could be the sense.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Well, to be honest with you, and I'm a big
Odin Barrett fan, but he's not the best goalkicker in
the All Blacks. In fact, to my mind he's the
third best goalkicker behind Damien mackenzie and his brother Jordi.
So I'm absolutely with you. Hollard is a pressure man.
He's done at time after time. He's won two Rugby
World Cups. He doesn't seem to be affected by pressure.
(05:57):
He will kick the goals and he will put the
bottom up. And I'm with you. Bowden Barrett will need
to be good off for Tea because and really close tests,
and I think this one will be really close. Andy.
I think it's a one to twelve game either way.
You just got to kick your goals. One guy kicks
five out of five, the other guy kicks three out
of five. That's the difference in the test match.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Well, OK, let's go back to the Stags because we can.
This is all about the Ranfreity shield being on the line.
Jamie two thousand, were you at that game in christ
Church in two thousand and nine by chance?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, honestly, and it was possibly the greatest day of
my life.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
And then we won it again in two thousand and eleven.
It was almost like geez, we won it twice in
three years. This is crazy. I didn't think we'd see
it again.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Though it's more and more difficult to win, you know,
we had a very good that was a very good
Southland side back in that era. That's the Macintosh sort
of era. Interestingly, Andy like I was born in late
nineteen fifty nine. I'm showing my age now. I'm a pensioner.
So I was born about three or four week after
(07:00):
we lost the shield the Taranaki in nineteen fifty nine.
I had my fiftieth birthday party in those fifty years
and I spent them all in South and we'd never
had the shield. And then about three weeks after my
or two weeks ten days after my fiftieth birthday, we
won the shield and it just was the icing on
the cake. And honestly, I'm not saying twenty eleven was anticlimactic,
(07:26):
but compared to two thousand and nine, not quite the same.
And I think because we've had a big gap fourteen
years and just the way the stags have been playing,
and the spirit they show and the leadership from the
likes of sewn With he look that guy could be
at Eden Park. He completely outplayed the other number six
at Waikato last weekend. So I'm just proud of them
(07:50):
the way they're playing, because they're just playing with guts
and Southman teams in the past, unfortunately, have always been
maybe there or thereabouts and then they dropped their bundle
on the last few minutes and leak on defense. This
team doesn't leak on defense. And I'm told from people
who know more about rugby than I do that a
lot of that's due to Scott ead and I'll give
(08:11):
him Matt Saunders a pat on the back too. He's
not there anymore. But I think over the last couple
of years they've done quite a bit to develop some
of these players. They've certainly imported. Wisely, sometimes imports aren't
as good as the local product. But you know, when
you've got a Morgan Mitchell a Sean with these guys
who are born and bred young Molly Iena next year,
(08:32):
I've got Jack Taylor obviously, how good to see. And
we'll have Jimmy Taylor next year hopefully, and that's kind
of what we had in two thousand and nine with
Jamie macintosh and Jimmy Cowan and those sort of guys
born and bred Southlanders who are prepared to basically spill blood.
Well they do spill blood for their province and just
(08:53):
happy times. I just think that the South and Rugby
Union must be rubbing their hands with glee because they've
got the best had the best support based on the
NPC before they won the Shield. What is it going
to be like if they could have a wee run
with it. I'm just I would love to see them
defend it for the next three games or whatever they've
got left to face and hold it over the summer.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Good only Jamie Antler's up.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, Andler's up, Go the Stags. Thanks for your time, Andyn.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Brow, Where's Jamie McKay and the Country Crossover next? Dave
McGregor
In this began supporterst Off Miles around.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
We got the heart.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
It's time for the country crossover. If Jamie McKay hosts
of the Country Jamie, good afternoon. Jason Carrison put that
south and so we had a couple of years ago.
But this one is the true Stags anthem for me,
the sweet Eaters and the Roaring Pen from back in
nineteen ninety eight. Good afternoon.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Ye absolutely agree with you, Jerry Wonders, with Steph and
Hayes involved with that one as well, Yes, yes, he was. Yeah,
that is the true Stags anthem. I'll give you that one.
And Great Southland to Jeremy Wonders.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Well absolutely and Hazy as well. Now what a hell
of a week has been down here in the South.
We burgled the shield off woy kaddo and down here
it's just oh man, everyone's just gone round pretty shield
nuts and rightly so. But the great thing is it's
captured the imagination of the MPC.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Well, it's captured the imagination Andy of the rest of
the country, because I can tell you from people I've
been talking to right around the country and including the
young Farmer of the Year Hugh Jackson, who was at
the Shield Challenge game in his Stags shirt last weekend
and along with George Dodson. They're both Stags fans, no
(01:21):
doubt from their time down South. But the rest of
the country wants the fairy tale to continue. They want
the Stags to win this game because, let's face it,
I mean, Canterbury and Auckland having the Shield yawn or
Wellington yawn, or even White Katto for that matter, yawn
Yorn yawn, it's not appreciated. I mean that was reflected
(01:42):
in those in the Whitecadow effort to be perfectly honest.
So I would love to see South and hold it
over the summer. It's going to be a push obviously
against Canterbury tomorrow. Tab doesn't give them much of a chance,
but gee, the way they've manfully defended their line and
just you know, just the aggression that big number twelve penny.
(02:03):
How good was that? Well?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
People tend to forget as well when this guy came
to South and it started last year on a trial contract.
I remind you on that as well. He was Auckland
Club Player of the Year two years in a row.
So the guy had four but he was just an
unknown quantity quality. Sorry, going under the radar as such.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I wouldn't mind if he was at he jumped on
a plane straight after the game and went to Eden
Park and played there as well, because honestly, that amount
of size and he's obviously an aggressive man, God bless him.
But the other thing is he's got deft touches. You
saw some of his kicking skills, he's got passing skills.
I mean, there's the guy they knocked the rough edges
(02:43):
off him. There's a future all black midfielder and the
big number eight whose name I can never pronounce.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
So messy Tupo.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Well done, Andy, well done. Because my heroes from the
Shield Challenge were two for six and eight. Jack Taylor done.
She Sean Withy the number eight and number twelve. Although
I must say another hero and he's a good local boy.
I thought Morgan Mitchell was outstanding as well.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I had Morgie in studio on Wednesday and I said
to him about the tab numbers and he just smiled
and goes and that's the way we like it. So
these guys realize they're not going to be favorites at
the tab. But look, it all stemmed back from that
twenty two nil deficit against menow two when I've seen
that scoreline, because I was at a function that night
and I was ready to get the Choppers, ready to
go up and just blow up Raby Park and start
(03:32):
again next thing. They won the darn game. Then they've
gone away and beating Bay of Plenty away for goodness sake.
Who are finalists last year? And now they got the shield.
I gave them a better chance of winning tomorrow than
I do the ull Wax Leadham Park.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Well, it's interesting, and I've been getting quite a few
messages and texts saying, come on, Mackai, what are your
true colors, Stags or the All Blacks? If you've got
to pick one, well, it's a no contest for me.
And even though I'm a Patriot, it's the Stags for me.
So let's just clear that one up. The only thing
I would say about Eden Park, if you'd ask me
eight days ago or two weeks ago, sorry, whether the
(04:09):
All Blacks would win at Edon Park, I'd say I
don't think so, but history reminds us that the All
Blacks always come back really strongly after a loss, especially
a bad loss. And for what it's worth I don't
mind the team that they've picked. Not everyone agrees with it,
but we have our own bomb squad sitting on the bench.
(04:32):
We have got some huge In fact, our top two
props from last season are sitting on the bench. Takeiaho's
got real impact with the ball in hand late in
the game. Fabian Holland, a huge piece of beat, is
going to come on and inject himself physically into that game.
And then you've got duple sed Carethi who will be very,
(04:53):
very valuable i'd think, competing with the likes of Quaga
Smith in the last twenty minutes. So we've got our
bomb squad. I'm not so much worried about our forwards.
It's perhaps more our backs and this young Kyle Preston
who's come from nowhere to be the fifth choice All
Black halfback. You know, like the pressure is going to
(05:14):
be on that young man if he gets on, and
especially if he gets on early.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I think Aden Park it almost comes down to handling
pressure and then one other thing for me as well
as goalkicking. Andre Pollard one of the best. Boden Barrett
arguably not a bad goalkicker, but I don't think he's
a Andre Pollard, but the pressure of Eden Park that
could be the sense.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Well, to be honest with you, and I'm a big
Odin Barrett fan, but he's not the best goalkicker in
the All Blacks. In fact, to my mind he's the
third best goalkicker behind Damien mackenzie and his brother Jordi.
So I'm absolutely with you. Hollard is a pressure man.
He's done at time after time. He's won two Rugby
World Cups. He doesn't seem to be affected by pressure.
(05:57):
He will kick the goals and he will put the
bottom up. And I'm with you. Bowden Barrett will need
to be good off for Tea because and really close tests,
and I think this one will be really close. Andy.
I think it's a one to twelve game either way.
You just got to kick your goals. One guy kicks
five out of five, the other guy kicks three out
of five. That's the difference in the test match.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Well, OK, let's go back to the Stags because we can.
This is all about the Ranfreity shield being on the line.
Jamie two thousand, were you at that game in christ
Church in two thousand and nine by chance?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, honestly, and it was possibly the greatest day of
my life.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
And then we won it again in two thousand and eleven.
It was almost like geez, we won it twice in
three years. This is crazy. I didn't think we'd see
it again.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Though it's more and more difficult to win, you know,
we had a very good that was a very good
Southland side back in that era. That's the Macintosh sort
of era. Interestingly, Andy like I was born in late
nineteen fifty nine. I'm showing my age now. I'm a pensioner.
So I was born about three or four week after
(07:00):
we lost the shield the Taranaki in nineteen fifty nine.
I had my fiftieth birthday party in those fifty years
and I spent them all in South and we'd never
had the shield. And then about three weeks after my
or two weeks ten days after my fiftieth birthday, we
won the shield and it just was the icing on
the cake. And honestly, I'm not saying twenty eleven was anticlimactic,
(07:26):
but compared to two thousand and nine, not quite the same.
And I think because we've had a big gap fourteen
years and just the way the stags have been playing,
and the spirit they show and the leadership from the
likes of sewn With he look that guy could be
at Eden Park. He completely outplayed the other number six
at Waikato last weekend. So I'm just proud of them
(07:50):
the way they're playing, because they're just playing with guts
and Southman teams in the past, unfortunately, have always been
maybe there or thereabouts and then they dropped their bundle
on the last few minutes and leak on defense. This
team doesn't leak on defense. And I'm told from people
who know more about rugby than I do that a
lot of that's due to Scott ead and I'll give
(08:11):
him Matt Saunders a pat on the back too. He's
not there anymore. But I think over the last couple
of years they've done quite a bit to develop some
of these players. They've certainly imported. Wisely, sometimes imports aren't
as good as the local product. But you know, when
you've got a Morgan Mitchell a Sean with these guys
who are born and bred young Molly Iena next year,
(08:32):
I've got Jack Taylor obviously, how good to see. And
we'll have Jimmy Taylor next year hopefully, and that's kind
of what we had in two thousand and nine with
Jamie macintosh and Jimmy Cowan and those sort of guys
born and bred Southlanders who are prepared to basically spill blood.
Well they do spill blood for their province and just
(08:53):
happy times. I just think that the South and Rugby
Union must be rubbing their hands with glee because they've
got the best had the best support based on the
NPC before they won the Shield. What is it going
to be like if they could have a wee run
with it. I'm just I would love to see them
defend it for the next three games or whatever they've
got left to face and hold it over the summer.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Good only Jamie Antler's up.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, Andler's up, Go the Stags. Thanks for your time, Andyn.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Brow, Where's Jamie McKay and the Country Crossover next? Dave
McGregor
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