November 20, 2025 • 9 mins
In the Country Crossover Jamie looks at Shane Jones and his colourful description of a Green Party MP.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
It's time for the Country crossover, joining us as Jamie McKay,
host of the Country, had a Dunedin good afternoon, Jamie.
How's the week being Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Not bad? Thanks Andy. I think the highlight of the
week came just in the last hour and Shane Jones,
the Prince of the province as the Mighty Martua, described
Chloe as a demonic egg beater, and straight after he
did it, he sent me a text with a smiley
face saying, not sure where that came from, but it
was gold.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I'm not sure, but it sort of describes Chloe a
demonic egg beater. Maybe she's the way she her physical
behavior in parliament is like a demonic egg beater. I
don't know. But then of course he got stuck into
Debbie and Raweri and said they're akin to the moa.
They are about to become extinct. He just makes all
this up on the run so glorious.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Relating to or characteristics of demons or evil spirits.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Well, depending on your political alliances or allegiances, I think
the Greens can be quite evil on occasions. They would
certainly be very evil for the New Zealand economy and
the farming economy. It doesn't even be a thinking about.
It doesn't be a thinking about if you're a farmer.
If Labor as the next government with the Greens and
(01:27):
To Party Murray, although Shane might be right, they might
become extinct, Labor could easily win all the Maori seats,
which would give them a strong presence in government. So yep,
I mean, I guess the coalition government we've got at
the moment is far from perfect. They've already started, I
mean the gloves have come off already. Seymore and Winston
are jostling for positions. My read on it a year
(01:50):
out and a lot can change in the year, and
is that both ACT and New Zealand First will cannibalize
the national vote. Yes, I think we'll still have a
National led coalition, but Christopher Luxen will be in a
weaker position.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Realistically though. You listen to Joe Luxon on your show
again this week, and lovely person Joe, but it doesn't
really fill you with a lot of hope. She's in
charge of agriculture.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I've publicly said this, and I'm not saying something that
I haven't said to her. She's in there because she's
a nice person. She's a friendly face, she's to be fair,
she's got a bit of a rural background. She's out
there to plicate I think the farming community after Damien,
who had a much more fractious relationship with farming. But
(02:37):
let's be honest about it, they haven't got any agg policy.
I don't know when they're going to come out with some.
They'll make noises about caring for farmers and the primary industries,
but they don't really because it's not their constituency. Their
constituency is Beltway urban New Zealand, and that's where they
hope to win the election. I think one of the
(02:57):
interesting things that's happening at the moment is Chippy like
a half deflated balloon. He's not doing anything, but he's
polling well. Labor's polling ahead of National depending on which
pole you believe. Personally, he's polling as well, if not
better than Christoph Luxe, and yet they've done nothing. The
only thing he's done, and I think he's got away
with this and it's been a political success for him,
(03:18):
is his capital gains tax. He's flown that politically. In
the past that would have been totally unpalatable. But I
think people, or certainly a good proportion of the population,
believe that we need to broaden the tax space. And
there's always that element that want to get the rich
pricks as well. But the problem with a capital gains
(03:40):
tax at the moment, if we'd had one for the
last three or four years, Andy, guess how much it
would have brought in. Nothing, literally nothing, because there's hardly
been any capital gain. In fact, there's been capital loss
on housing or secondary homes, so there's not going to
be much, certainly in the initial years gathered by this
(04:01):
capital gains tax. So you know, it's a political position.
You can argue whether we need to broaden the tax
space or not. But what I think stupid about it
is giving everybody three free visits to the doctor each year.
Wealthier people can afford to pay to go and visit
the doctor. Yes, the health the health budget needs a
(04:23):
whole lot more money. While I would just plunk all
the capital gains tax money if it indeed comes in,
and give it to the health budget and it can
be targeted and spent where necessary.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
The Southern Storms Shout happening next week at the Woodheads property.
Jamie this is something we're encouraging everyone to go to.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Right. Yeah, well it'll be like fishes and loaves, you
know that biblical story. I don't know how many people
are turning up excuse me, the more the merrier. The
idea kind of started at the Canterbury Show when we
were excuse me, launch launching the Makaisa and Greg Menzies,
who's a great bloke from Emerson's in the tiny pub.
(04:59):
We were sitting there and the rain having a few
quiets on the Thursday afternoon. He said, you know what,
when I get this pub back down south, I'd like
to take it down to Southland or Southwest Otago and
shout some farmers. So that's how the whole idea originated.
And then Spatscot on board, and then we decided to
I did a bit of calling around and we looked
(05:21):
at the worst affected areas and I think a general
consensus is that, you know, South Otago's probably fared as
worse or as badly as anyone. And then you get
someone like Nigel, who's obviously very well known, good networker,
just yeah, a good bloke and I know he's I
asked him, he he'd bit my hand off. He said, yeah,
(05:43):
why would I turn down two pubs coming to my farm?
So and I just think it's great. Everyone has just
donated silver fern farms with the meat. I think an
Z have got a coffee cart and an ice cream cart.
And there's some travel company and I need to get
their name right. They've tipped in a farm travel company.
They've tipped in a thousand dollars just for some of
(06:05):
the incidental costs go around these And it's just wonderful
because look, jeez, I've seen the pictures. I mean, I
look at look at the pictures of the Clyde Vale
golf course. For instance, it's the Allen Grange. I've never
played it. They say it's a great golf course. But mostly,
you know, two thirds of the trees are gone and
there's just such a lot of work to do. And
(06:27):
I know farmers have got still got lots of fences
down with trees over them. And you're getting to the
stage now where you're weaning lambs Andy and you know
as well as I do, the last thing you want
with weaned lambs is dodgy fences because guess what, they'll
find their way through it. So you know, This is
just an opportunity to take two or three hours off
the farm. Come and have a beer, Come and have
(06:49):
a yarn, no strings attached. We'll feed you and water
you and then hopefully sends you home with a smile
on your face.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
You were running out of time and I wonder to
have you on about this. The mackayser, it's a bowl
hop oil and fused New Zealand pills and the broiled
with the taste of crystal lemons and limes with a
refreshing finish. So it sounds like a lagatop.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
What's a lager top radlers.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
So to beer of the lemonade, but of lemonade at
the top to fill it up.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
No, no, no, no, it's a citrusy craft Bear. To
be fair, Andy, I'll tell you where the spates will
be there as well. I don't worry well exactly. Look,
you know, like I'm a craft Bear fan, you're not.
I mean you're from Balfa, obviously you wouldn't be. But
I should know that.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I'm only joking. But yeah, they'll have they'll have all
the good Emerson's ones there, like their pilsner and some
of their other ones. They've got some session bears is
there as well, but you know the Spates will be
there with the old Triple Star or whatever you call it,
the stock standard Spates and the most then the most
popular bear in New Zealand by a mile at the
(07:55):
moment is the is the Spates Summit with a low
car bear. So all theos turn up and think, well,
this is low carb. I can drink plenty of this,
so instead of they just drink twice as much as
they would have otherwise and then put it down to
weight loss. But anyhow, every man for his own and
I'm really thankful because Spots Hayden Finch, good rugby player,
(08:16):
good ki boy, he was the one who volunteered. He
wanted Spots to come along as well with Emersons. They're
both under the Lion umbrella and we're very very thankful
of them for putting that on. And Silver Fern Farms
for the meat as well, and the Milton Lions who
were doing the barbecue. And also if you're getting going
along and you're from the Milton, Bellcluth or Lawrence area
(08:38):
which is quite a big catchment, the Milton Lions will
get your home. So if you can't arrange a sober driver,
get someone to dump you off and we'll do our
very very best to get your home.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, just very quickly. A shout out to the Balfy
Young Farmers Miss Belfair happening tomorrow week at the Belf Hall.
It's all the money's going back into that redoing the
hall up to Jamie, so enjoy the can and stay
away from those demonic gig beaters.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, no danger of me and Chloe getting too close.
I wouldn't think. See you go, The All Blacks B
Team go, the AB's Be's.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Jamie McKay and the country crossover Morgan Green for many
hiss fits. We catch up next
It's time for the Country crossover, joining us as Jamie McKay,
host of the Country, had a Dunedin good afternoon, Jamie.
How's the week being Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Not bad? Thanks Andy. I think the highlight of the
week came just in the last hour and Shane Jones,
the Prince of the province as the Mighty Martua, described
Chloe as a demonic egg beater, and straight after he
did it, he sent me a text with a smiley
face saying, not sure where that came from, but it
was gold.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I'm not sure, but it sort of describes Chloe a
demonic egg beater. Maybe she's the way she her physical
behavior in parliament is like a demonic egg beater. I
don't know. But then of course he got stuck into
Debbie and Raweri and said they're akin to the moa.
They are about to become extinct. He just makes all
this up on the run so glorious.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Relating to or characteristics of demons or evil spirits.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Well, depending on your political alliances or allegiances, I think
the Greens can be quite evil on occasions. They would
certainly be very evil for the New Zealand economy and
the farming economy. It doesn't even be a thinking about.
It doesn't be a thinking about if you're a farmer.
If Labor as the next government with the Greens and
(01:27):
To Party Murray, although Shane might be right, they might
become extinct, Labor could easily win all the Maori seats,
which would give them a strong presence in government. So yep,
I mean, I guess the coalition government we've got at
the moment is far from perfect. They've already started, I
mean the gloves have come off already. Seymore and Winston
are jostling for positions. My read on it a year
(01:50):
out and a lot can change in the year, and
is that both ACT and New Zealand First will cannibalize
the national vote. Yes, I think we'll still have a
National led coalition, but Christopher Luxen will be in a
weaker position.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Realistically though. You listen to Joe Luxon on your show
again this week, and lovely person Joe, but it doesn't
really fill you with a lot of hope. She's in
charge of agriculture.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I've publicly said this, and I'm not saying something that
I haven't said to her. She's in there because she's
a nice person. She's a friendly face, she's to be fair,
she's got a bit of a rural background. She's out
there to plicate I think the farming community after Damien,
who had a much more fractious relationship with farming. But
(02:37):
let's be honest about it, they haven't got any agg policy.
I don't know when they're going to come out with some.
They'll make noises about caring for farmers and the primary industries,
but they don't really because it's not their constituency. Their
constituency is Beltway urban New Zealand, and that's where they
hope to win the election. I think one of the
(02:57):
interesting things that's happening at the moment is Chippy like
a half deflated balloon. He's not doing anything, but he's
polling well. Labor's polling ahead of National depending on which
pole you believe. Personally, he's polling as well, if not
better than Christoph Luxe, and yet they've done nothing. The
only thing he's done, and I think he's got away
with this and it's been a political success for him,
(03:18):
is his capital gains tax. He's flown that politically. In
the past that would have been totally unpalatable. But I
think people, or certainly a good proportion of the population,
believe that we need to broaden the tax space. And
there's always that element that want to get the rich
pricks as well. But the problem with a capital gains
(03:40):
tax at the moment, if we'd had one for the
last three or four years, Andy, guess how much it
would have brought in. Nothing, literally nothing, because there's hardly
been any capital gain. In fact, there's been capital loss
on housing or secondary homes, so there's not going to
be much, certainly in the initial years gathered by this
(04:01):
capital gains tax. So you know, it's a political position.
You can argue whether we need to broaden the tax
space or not. But what I think stupid about it
is giving everybody three free visits to the doctor each year.
Wealthier people can afford to pay to go and visit
the doctor. Yes, the health the health budget needs a
(04:23):
whole lot more money. While I would just plunk all
the capital gains tax money if it indeed comes in,
and give it to the health budget and it can
be targeted and spent where necessary.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
The Southern Storms Shout happening next week at the Woodheads property.
Jamie this is something we're encouraging everyone to go to.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Right. Yeah, well it'll be like fishes and loaves, you
know that biblical story. I don't know how many people
are turning up excuse me, the more the merrier. The
idea kind of started at the Canterbury Show when we
were excuse me, launch launching the Makaisa and Greg Menzies,
who's a great bloke from Emerson's in the tiny pub.
(04:59):
We were sitting there and the rain having a few
quiets on the Thursday afternoon. He said, you know what,
when I get this pub back down south, I'd like
to take it down to Southland or Southwest Otago and
shout some farmers. So that's how the whole idea originated.
And then Spatscot on board, and then we decided to
I did a bit of calling around and we looked
(05:21):
at the worst affected areas and I think a general
consensus is that, you know, South Otago's probably fared as
worse or as badly as anyone. And then you get
someone like Nigel, who's obviously very well known, good networker,
just yeah, a good bloke and I know he's I
asked him, he he'd bit my hand off. He said, yeah,
(05:43):
why would I turn down two pubs coming to my farm?
So and I just think it's great. Everyone has just
donated silver fern farms with the meat. I think an
Z have got a coffee cart and an ice cream cart.
And there's some travel company and I need to get
their name right. They've tipped in a farm travel company.
They've tipped in a thousand dollars just for some of
(06:05):
the incidental costs go around these And it's just wonderful
because look, jeez, I've seen the pictures. I mean, I
look at look at the pictures of the Clyde Vale
golf course. For instance, it's the Allen Grange. I've never
played it. They say it's a great golf course. But mostly,
you know, two thirds of the trees are gone and
there's just such a lot of work to do. And
(06:27):
I know farmers have got still got lots of fences
down with trees over them. And you're getting to the
stage now where you're weaning lambs Andy and you know
as well as I do, the last thing you want
with weaned lambs is dodgy fences because guess what, they'll
find their way through it. So you know, This is
just an opportunity to take two or three hours off
the farm. Come and have a beer, Come and have
(06:49):
a yarn, no strings attached. We'll feed you and water
you and then hopefully sends you home with a smile
on your face.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
You were running out of time and I wonder to
have you on about this. The mackayser, it's a bowl
hop oil and fused New Zealand pills and the broiled
with the taste of crystal lemons and limes with a
refreshing finish. So it sounds like a lagatop.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
What's a lager top radlers.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
So to beer of the lemonade, but of lemonade at
the top to fill it up.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
No, no, no, no, it's a citrusy craft Bear. To
be fair, Andy, I'll tell you where the spates will
be there as well. I don't worry well exactly. Look,
you know, like I'm a craft Bear fan, you're not.
I mean you're from Balfa, obviously you wouldn't be. But
I should know that.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I'm only joking. But yeah, they'll have they'll have all
the good Emerson's ones there, like their pilsner and some
of their other ones. They've got some session bears is
there as well, but you know the Spates will be
there with the old Triple Star or whatever you call it,
the stock standard Spates and the most then the most
popular bear in New Zealand by a mile at the
(07:55):
moment is the is the Spates Summit with a low
car bear. So all theos turn up and think, well,
this is low carb. I can drink plenty of this,
so instead of they just drink twice as much as
they would have otherwise and then put it down to
weight loss. But anyhow, every man for his own and
I'm really thankful because Spots Hayden Finch, good rugby player,
(08:16):
good ki boy, he was the one who volunteered. He
wanted Spots to come along as well with Emersons. They're
both under the Lion umbrella and we're very very thankful
of them for putting that on. And Silver Fern Farms
for the meat as well, and the Milton Lions who
were doing the barbecue. And also if you're getting going
along and you're from the Milton, Bellcluth or Lawrence area
(08:38):
which is quite a big catchment, the Milton Lions will
get your home. So if you can't arrange a sober driver,
get someone to dump you off and we'll do our
very very best to get your home.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, just very quickly. A shout out to the Balfy
Young Farmers Miss Belfair happening tomorrow week at the Belf Hall.
It's all the money's going back into that redoing the
hall up to Jamie, so enjoy the can and stay
away from those demonic gig beaters.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, no danger of me and Chloe getting too close.
I wouldn't think. See you go, The All Blacks B
Team go, the AB's Be's.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Jamie McKay and the country crossover Morgan Green for many
hiss fits. We catch up next
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